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Im tired of not mastering SEO, I think I could be deadly if I master it. Yes, I do know about keywords, meta tags ,etc. I have the all in one seo plugin and my goal is to improve the Serp for low to medium competitve keywords. I want to optimize posts on my blog, obviously i will look at the all in one seo plugin at bottom but what next?

Backlinks, Article marketing.... the problem is with these stuff is that you need to know what to do.

What is the differnce between a backlink and a comment? If i post a comment with my keyword as title and llink on a blog is that a backlink? I guess links of your site with your keyword for example is a backlink no?

As for article marketing, I know a lot of you are experts in this field. Where to submit besides Ezines. Can anybody please give me a list of the top directoires to submit to? How many keywords with your link should be in a article you submit? T

he probem here is that you have to blog comment on certain blogs, I am subscribed to Google alerts but I mean you need to comment on pr 1,2,3,4, etc.... Do you guys use any site that will give you suggestions of which sites you should blog comment on? I could work for 10 hours a day but isn't there a limit of backlinks a day? Im aiming for a lot of different keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author reddiep
    Have you considered outsourcing your SEO. That's what I do and it gets rid of the headache.
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  • Profile picture of the author rcritchett
    Do you want to know what has real power? Targeting experts, building relationships with them, creating very high quality content and letting them know about it, and having them retweet your stuff.

    Social Proof will always win in SEO (good SEO). Take an hour a day to build relationships.
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    • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
      Originally Posted by rcritchett View Post

      Do you want to know what has real power? Targeting experts, building relationships with them, creating very high quality content and letting them know about it, and having them retweet your stuff.

      Social Proof will always win in SEO (good SEO). Take an hour a day to build relationships.
      yes ... i have consireded outsourcing...but its better you learn it yourself. How much does your serp improve day by day? in 1 or 2 months, can you rank for a low competitive keyword?
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  • Profile picture of the author LibbyC
    Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar View Post

    What is the differnce between a backlink and a comment? If i post a comment with my keyword as title and llink on a blog is that a backlink? I guess links of your site with your keyword for example is a backlink no?

    As for article marketing, I know a lot of you are experts in this field. Where to submit besides Ezines. Can anybody please give me a list of the top directoires to submit to? How many keywords with your link should be in a article you submit?
    Hi there

    A comment is just a message you post on someone's site.

    So yes, if you post a comment on a blog that has a keyword in the name and a link in the URL box that keyword becomes a backlink. Hence why you see people whose names show up as odd things like Oral-B Toothbrush :rolleyes:

    A backlink can come from a many different places - a comment, an article, a blog post etc.

    Backlinks aren't created equal. To be of use to you (from an SEO perspective, not just traffic perspective) they have to be what is called 'Do follow' which means that Google will pass some of its ranking down to the page that the link goes to.

    Have you read this thread:?
    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...40-days-4.html

    It's very long but the first 10 pages or so are absolute GOLD when it comes to SEO. Joseph has gone out of his way to detail EVERY step he took in this challenge to get to #1 Google ranking.

    Here are a couple of post on my own blog that may help with understanding where to start with SEO:

    SEO - The Secret Formula for Ranking in Google

    How I Got to #1 in Google


    Re a 'Plan' it depends on your site but here's mine for my blog

    Step 1 : Research and pick strong 5 'action' or 'buyer' keywords
    By 'action' or buyer keywords I mean words that show people are ready to take action eg: Product XX review

    Step 2: Write an amazing blog post for each keyword (the kind that makes people want to bookmark it or link to it naturally - this is what is referred to as link bait) using correct on page SEO (see my blog post for my checklist). I call these 'pillar posts'

    Step 3: Write 5-10 articles for each 'pillar post'
    Post first to EzineArticles.com

    Follow with
    GoArticles.com
    ArticleBlast.com
    Amazines.com
    ArticleAlley.com
    ArticleDadshboard.com
    iSnare.com
    ArticleRich.com

    All of these article directories are 'Do follow'

    NB: This list is a bit longer than I usually do. It comes from Joseph's '40 days' warrior forum post. These are the kind of gems he drops in there

    (Re your comment of how many keywords should be in an article you submit, this will depend on the article directory's particular policy. EzineArticles.com allows two 'self serving' links in your bio box ie: two links that benefit YOU)

    Step 4 - Bookmark these articles using IMAutomator.com (another Joseph gem) and manually submit to ones not included in IMAutomator eg: Digg, Mixx, Reddit etc. This gives you backlinks into the ARTICLES which then gives your pillar post a ranking boost.

    Step 5 - Check rankings and boost backlinks with other sources if required: PR release, social bookmarking and commenting on do follow blogs.

    SEO is something that you do need to be reasonably patient with. Joseph's thread explains in a lot of detail why you need to take it slowly .. well relative to doing something like Pay Per Click where the traffic is instant.

    Hope that helps as a start
    Libby
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    • Profile picture of the author jcpeden
      Originally Posted by LibbyC View Post

      Re a 'Plan' it depends on your site but here's mine for my blog...Hope that helps as a start
      Libby
      Libby,

      Thanks for spelling it out. Its always great to see someone else's strategy. I know how to do everything that you've outlined but everyone has there own way of doing things and with so many conflicting ideas it's hard to know which direction to move in.

      You've given me something to try and add into my repetoire!
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      • Profile picture of the author LibbyC
        Originally Posted by jcpeden View Post

        Libby,

        Thanks for spelling it out. Its always great to see someone else's strategy. I know how to do everything that you've outlined but everyone has there own way of doing things and with so many conflicting ideas it's hard to know which direction to move in.

        You've given me something to try and add into my repetoire!
        I agree, I really like seeing exactly what other people are doing rather than vague comments like 'do article marketing!'

        I'm not sure if you mean which direction to move in for your SEO strategy or internet marketing strategy in general but whichever one, I do think the most important thing to do is to pick a path and and stay really focussed on it.

        That's not to say don't be flexible - because the web changes all the time, but just don't chop and change for no reason.

        Took me about a year of learning and flailing around (it wasn't pretty!) but I finally realised that in the end IM comes down to a very simple formula: Traffic -> List -> Conversions or Traffic -> Product -> Conversions

        Even if you're just doing mini sites with adsense the forumla is the same
        Traffic -> Product (Adsense) -> Conversions (get visitors to click)

        Here's a post I did on it:
        The Magic T+L+C Formula for Success

        My advice to overcome the overwhelm of not knowing which direction to go it is to just pick something and get very good at it.

        This year I am focusing on SEO, copywriting and Facebook (pages and PPC)

        I've got all of the basics in place:
        • WP blog with wonderful, easy FreshNews theme
        • OptimizePress to create squeeze and sales pages
        • Aweber for my list
        • FB page

        Which leaves me to just get on with the real [TLC] stuff - getting traffic, building my list and making sales

        Libby
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    • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
      Wonderful post Libby. My main question Now is That is it worth submittinh The same articles to all of The directories or they should be unique? i got a list of The top article directories So i should start submitting.
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      • Profile picture of the author LibbyC
        Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar View Post

        Wonderful post Libby. My main question Now is That is it worth submittinh The same articles to all of The directories or they should be unique? i got a list of The top article directories So i should start submitting.
        Glad you appreciated it

        Interesting question re the same article or different ones. Just me, but I always keep my EzineArticles unique and haven't been so worried about the others.

        In the past I have posted to Ezine then rewritten my Ezine article and posted that second one to a number of directories (GoArticles, ArticleDashboard mainly) and still done well.

        Going forward, having read Joseph's thread, I'm may look at creating 16 high quality, unique articles and posting them 2-each to the 8 directories.

        If I ever have a bit of time on my hands and I'm feeling inspired I'll spend it on writing another short but sweet and useful EzineArticles article because I do believe they are the most powerful for article backlinks, plus I just like writing

        Other people may get more joy from submitting to social bookmarking sites so they would choose to do that. I do think that SEO is one place that you have to experiment and see what works for you.

        I wish I could say that I do EXACTLY this, and EXACTLY that and that's it, (like I do with on-page SEO) but when it comes to backlinks I mix it up a bit.

        Cheers
        Libby
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  • Profile picture of the author onkelmicha
    hmmm

    My first thought was that you should pay somebody to do it.

    But then I sat down and thought for sec about it. I have never paid anybody to do something online for me that I haven't done atleast once or twice to get a feeling for how long it should take and what ind of results that it given me in SERPS.

    What I did starting out was get a basic course I think I looked at something like backlin blueprint and did a mindmap at the same time as I watched it, I also only did one video/type of link per day. Then did I dedicate that day/days to understand how to create it.

    After I knew all the different types then the hustle starts.

    It doesnt matter what anybody says the know when it comes to SEO because its all theory, we all have slightly different ways of looking at it as well. Me I rank a ton with spam and will keep on doing so because I "think" it works.

    But whatever floats you boat.

    What Im trying to say is you have to keep hustling until you find your way.
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  • Profile picture of the author emozart
    Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar View Post

    Im tired of not mastering SEO, I think I could be deadly if I master it. Yes, I do know about keywords, meta tags ,etc. I have the all in one seo plugin and my goal is to improve the Serp for low to medium competitve keywords. I want to optimize posts on my blog, obviously i will look at the all in one seo plugin at bottom but what next?

    Backlinks, Article marketing.... the problem is with these stuff is that you need to know what to do.

    What is the differnce between a backlink and a comment? If i post a comment with my keyword as title and llink on a blog is that a backlink? I guess links of your site with your keyword for example is a backlink no?

    As for article marketing, I know a lot of you are experts in this field. Where to submit besides Ezines. Can anybody please give me a list of the top directoires to submit to? How many keywords with your link should be in a article you submit? T

    he probem here is that you have to blog comment on certain blogs, I am subscribed to Google alerts but I mean you need to comment on pr 1,2,3,4, etc.... Do you guys use any site that will give you suggestions of which sites you should blog comment on? I could work for 10 hours a day but isn't there a limit of backlinks a day? Im aiming for a lot of different keywords.
    Hey Fazal,

    I'm pretty new at this too but I've learned a couple things that might be helpful to you. I've noticed some people recommending outsourcing (of which I'm absolutely a fan) First of all- you have to know what your doing before you outsource you work...This is important because you need to know what is important, whether or not your outsourcers are doing whats important or just pulling the wool over you. Once you understand what needs to be done, you'll have metrics by which to measure your outsourcing.

    Also, you asked about the difference between a backlink and a comment...

    A backlink is any link that points to your site - same as "inbound link"
    A comment can also link to your site, but won't always 'count as a link' for your SEO. This is because of a little tag in the coding of the link called a "nofollow" label. These links tell Spiders/crawlers/bots not to count it toward your backlinks. This is probably why you might be commenting and trying to build your backlinks, but seeing no results from it.

    It is important to focus on backlinks in your SEO, but before you do that you want to make sure your on-page SEO is perfect (otherwise your doing a bunch of work or spending money for other people to do the work for you for no real reason). There's an awesome resource out there by Daniel Tan called SEOPressor (he's a war-room member and has been doing SEO for a long time).

    I recommend his stuff- its helped out tremendously with my personal SEO and he actually helped me launch my own SEO business. If you are interested in learning more, PM me.
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  • Profile picture of the author pethanks
    Learning is a process an not an instant thing. The best thing to do is to continue what you are doing and study also new strategies.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aki Fagno
    It would be better if you focus on quality on links not on the quantity.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gunedat
      I think it is good that you want to master SEO by first learning it hands-on yourself. Only then you could get the most bang for your buck when you outsource.

      If there is one thing i can say about SEO is, is that it is 90% planning, and 10% execution. What this means is that you should know upfront what you want to do in terms of you on and off page SEO, plan it out, and then execute. For example, for difficult keywords, I find it quite tough to get good ranking if all you do is just blast backlinks. So what I do is sit down, and plan the mindmap on a piece of A3 paper, of how I want the backlinks to look like. Only then I move on and create backlinks according to that plan. If you try this approach, maybe you will get better understanding of SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author OrganicSeoGuru
    You deal with things keyword by keyword, url by url. Ranking get more competitive every day...
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  • Profile picture of the author notionphil
    I am very much a SEO amateur (i'm more of a coder) but have been able to get a #4 ranking in google for a very competitive term related to IM through focusing on link quality not quantity. Don't forget DMOZ, that alone made me jump from page 2 to 1!
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  • Profile picture of the author designerjack
    Great idea about setting up Google Alerts.

    I don't think you should worry about limiting backlinks
    but more keeping it consistent over time is the ideal goal.

    Lets say you build 5 backlinks today, and 100 tomorrow,
    then you stop for two weeks or more, you'll probably not
    see much improvements on your overall rankings.

    Just need to keep it pretty consistent. I don't know how
    old or new your website is. Overall, I think you are on the
    right track, but keep in mind, you have to keep a clear goal
    and stick to it. Start by working on ranking for 1 keyword
    then move into more as you go.

    Build backlinks like you said and do some blog commenting.
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