How many links are acceptable for new sites a day?

by pr0n1x
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Hello.
I know that a lot, build backlinks for new sites is very bad. Can be a long time to get into Google's sandbox.
How many links are acceptable for new sites daily for 5, 10, 15, 20, 30?
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    • Profile picture of the author helpingus
      I suggest that around 30 per day on a drip feed basis has best affect.
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      • Profile picture of the author hezell1989
        Originally Posted by helpingus View Post

        I suggest that around 30 per day on a drip feed basis has best affect.
        this sounds about right
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        • Profile picture of the author srdjank
          There is no limit, all you have to make sure is that the traffic flow looks natural. Meaning, don't send 1,000 links one day and then 5 the next.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
            Originally Posted by srdjank View Post

            There is no limit, all you have to make sure is that the traffic flow looks natural. Meaning, don't send 1,000 links one day and then 5 the next.
            Why not?

            Links aren't found the instant they're placed.
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            • Profile picture of the author srdjank
              Originally Posted by mgtarheels View Post

              Why not?

              Links aren't found the instant they're placed.
              This is true, but if such an irregularity occurs often, Google will clamp down on it. Its one of the main ways they shut down blackhat operations.
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              • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                Originally Posted by srdjank View Post

                if such an irregularity occurs often, Google will clamp down on it. Its one of the main ways they shut down BlueFart operations.
                This is utter nonsense! A pure urban myth of internet marketing.

                It isn't an "irregularity" at all. That's just circular reasoning, assuming at the outset that something's "wrong".

                If you think about it, it doesn't stand up to examination for a moment.

                If it were possible to get your site disabled by "getting too many backlinks too quickly", all those subfusc-headwear forums and websites would be full of people offering it as a commercial service to "disable the competition".

                Google may have some quirks and eccentricities, but they do know not to make webmasters responsible for things happening on other people's sites that can be entirely outside their own control (and they've said so, openly and repeatedly, by the way). Otherwise the entire SERP's system would be a joke.

                Call me a skepchick, but quite why people continue to believe this stuff is baffling ... :rolleyes:
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              • Profile picture of the author Ian Varnava
                Originally Posted by srdjank View Post

                This is true, but if such an irregularity occurs often, Google will clamp down on it. Its one of the main ways they shut down BlueFart operations.
                I'm coming after you... with my link blaster. Get ready!!
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                • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
                  Originally Posted by helpingus View Post

                  I suggest that around 30 per day on a drip feed basis has best affect.
                  Originally Posted by hezell1989 View Post

                  this sounds about right
                  Originally Posted by srdjank View Post

                  There is no limit, all you have to make sure is that the traffic flow looks natural. Meaning, don't send 1,000 links one day and then 5 the next.
                  Originally Posted by srdjank View Post

                  This is true, but if such an irregularity occurs often, Google will clamp down on it. Its one of the main ways they shut down BlueFart operations.
                  Looks like I am going to have to start face palming people again...

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                  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
                    Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

                    Looks like I am going to have to start face palming people again...

                    I'm pretty sure Obama is face palming because he made sure his presidential campaign limited themselves to only a few hundred thousand new backlinks per day....
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                  • Originally Posted by Chris Worner View Post

                    Looks like I am going to have to start face palming people again...


                    So what is your answer to the question? As many as you like, when you like?
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                    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                      Warning: Personal opinion alert

                      Google has said all along that it favors natural link building, which in their eyes is sites linking to each other based on the value of the content linked to.

                      So the question becomes, what is "natural"?

                      Software exists that will post a new site's URL and description to thousands of web directories at the push of a button. Would it be 'natural' for a savvy webmaster to use that software? I believe so.

                      The same could be said for RSS feeds and their directories.

                      If an article or other content (like cutesie videos) caught on and went viral, would it be 'natural' for that link to show up and spread quickly on bookmarking sites, as well as sites like Twitter? I believe so.

                      Any of those things could, quite naturally, result in thousands of links in a single day.

                      On the other hand, would it be 'natural' for a site to pick up several thousand links from forum profiles in obscure, unrelated subjects, fitting a pretty obvious pattern, all with the same keyword-phrase username? Not likely.

                      I'm not just picking on the profile linkers here. I'm not trying to start a new war, just using the practice because most are aware of it.

                      Will you get penalized for using unnatural links? No, not if those links might meet the 'beyond your control' test.

                      Will they do you any good? Probably, until the practice becomes a problem and such links are devalued.
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                      • Profile picture of the author pr0n1x
                        I have a couple of sites and have a database of profiles, forums and other structures. All sites in the database have PR more than 4, all in my database of about 500 sites.

                        I plan to do on each site for 5-10 links a day and use special software to index these links. With such a plan to get that for 3 months on my site will be about 500 - 800 links. Is this normal?

                        And then after 3 months of usage profiles, links I plan to make large-scale operation on the use of articles which will give more in 2-3 months 500-1000 links.

                        I chose the profiles of forums, because they work well, who would not say that. This is proved by the fact that there is such a girl, Angela, who with the help of forums and comments sections of blogs withdraw your page for the word "backlinks" to first place in Google.</span>
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                • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                  Originally Posted by Ian Varnava View Post

                  I'm coming after you... with my link blaster. Get ready!!
                  I'll take some of those free backlinks.
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              • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
                Originally Posted by srdjank View Post

                This is true, but if such an irregularity occurs often, Google will clamp down on it. Its one of the main ways they shut down BlueFart operations.
                Lol, not so much.
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          • Profile picture of the author jameskahon
            Originally Posted by srdjank View Post

            There is no limit, all you have to make sure is that the traffic flow looks natural. Meaning, don't send 1,000 links one day and then 5 the next.

            I have to agree with this. There's this called Link Spike when there is a sudden burst of links in a certain time then dramatically decreases the next day. This isn't look natural to Google.

            However, there is an exception. What about those news site when thousand of people linking to them when there is a hot news/interesting topics? You cannot say to them that hey stop linking to my site Google will penalize me of what you are doing. I don't thinks so.

            Google also looks in the credibility of the website whom people are linking to. If it is worth linking to or not.

            My answer to your question is a question. Is your site worth linking to? If so then don't set a limit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Landis
    there is alot of debate about this. for my clients, i build slowly and steadily (at their request). On my personal sites, i blast the living sh*t out of them.
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    • Profile picture of the author espresso
      Originally Posted by carpetmuncher View Post

      there is alot of debate about this. for my clients, i build slowly and steadily (at their request). On my personal sites, i blast the living sh*t out of them.
      does plasting the **** out of it for for you?
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  • Profile picture of the author sirkaliber
    I agree that consistency is key, but buying a DMOZ domain or getting into the Yahoo directory is a great way to build trustrank for new sites. After that, you can up the ante on backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author yourreviewer
    So apparently if I write an article in a brand new blog and hit the first page of Digg, I am screwed and my blog will be "digged" into a sandbox
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  • Profile picture of the author Aki Fagno
    I don't think there is a limit on generating links for new sites per day. But I suggest don't rush everything. Google might suspect your site and fasten down such activity.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by Aki Fagno View Post

      I don't think there is a limit on generating links for new sites per day. But I suggest don't rush everything. Google might suspect your site and fasten down such activity.
      Yes, please, sloooooooooooooow down. Don't rush. Especially if you are on
      of my competitors.

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  • Profile picture of the author clickbumped
    There's no "limit." But a site that has been up for less than 24 hours that suddenly has thousands of links to it will raise suspicion. If they look into it and see that there's nothing special about the site, then you'll get slapped. Just write article and post links manually and stuff like that and you won't ever have to worry about your posting speed. These questions come from people who use scrapebox and xrumer to build backlinks, not people writing articles and posting comments where they have something to say.
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  • Profile picture of the author orbis
    can anyone tell me how can I build backlinks
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    • Profile picture of the author Watch Store
      be consistent in your link building.
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  • Profile picture of the author Look4VGames
    1,500,000,000.

    As long as you keep it consistent.
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  • Profile picture of the author rsstore10
    There are no limit of back-links for a new website. However, I try not more than 30 links for a new website. Also, link building should be continuously as an average.
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  • Profile picture of the author ameerulislam10
    There is no limit. If your link building some how looks unnatural. Google might give it a manual editorial look IMO.

    I'm saying this because I heard Once Matt Cutt talking about website pages (not backlinks, just trying to relate them). If for instance one day there was no or little pages online of a particular website and the next day millions of pages popped up. Google might manually check them out. So if they have manual checking culture for suspicious expansion of the number of webpages they might also have unnatural backlink expansion fetching culture.
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  • Profile picture of the author alica2011
    to new blog i think 100 backlink is enough avoid google sandbox
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  • Profile picture of the author nicnac03
    I don't know why you guys are face palming. When I build a new site and I build too many backlinks too quickly (AMR anyone?) my website gets sandboxed for a few weeks.

    And then when I build a new site and I only build 20 or so backlinks a day and slowly increase it, I do fine.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by nicnac03 View Post

      I don't know why you guys are face palming. When I build a new site and I build too many backlinks too quickly (AMR anyone?) my website gets sandboxed for a few weeks.

      And then when I build a new site and I only build 20 or so backlinks a day and slowly increase it, I do fine.
      Part of the effect you see is in the type of links you are building. Hundreds of links in article resource boxes and content suddenly appearing for a brand new site is not natural. Especially if they are all coming from the kind of directories programs like AMR are forced to use to approach the number of submissions they claim.

      On the other hand, a few hundred links from directories is natural. Even Google has to realize that even bleached-white hatters are going to use some automation, and 'announcing' a new site with a mass directory submission has been common practice for many years.

      Don't just focus on the number of links. Look at the type of link you build, and ask yourself "would I do this even if I weren't trying to rank my site?"
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  • Profile picture of the author glennforum
    Consistent backlink building will be the key not really about the limit of backlinks being built. Meaning you have to stay within the average number of backlinks that you can build daily.
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