Just stick to basics when you are confused.

Any link to where you got this?

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This is just more speculation - there is plenty of it out there already, simiraly unsubstantiated.

I mean this is like 'My auntie saw a ghost, so what do we do NOW?!" - we have no facts to go on, there's nothing to discuss.

Don't worry about it, we'll find out what's going on sooner or later. Maybe Google wants quality sites in its index and wants to fight link spamming. So we'll all be fine, right?

If google do so then we will be in a great danger. What all of you guys say? Then how can we make our website popular?

seo basic work is directory submission forum posting articles submission blog comments social bookmarking if google not allow us to do this then all seo company going to close..i dont think so google penalise our site... does not make sense.you got a wrong information

i dont know,i havnt really ever read matt cutss saying specifically to make backlinks in a certain way,he always just says make quality links. I still want to see where the OP got this info from

Don't worry it just means that if you abuse social platform by not providing something worthy and just filling spaces with your links.
it doesn't mean that links from forum will make your site ranked less in search engine.

Great question, makes me think of statements that I make which equal thoughts like as Google goes so goes the Web. However, I do not believe that one should approach their marketing efforts in this way. Would you invest in just one area for financial prosperity? Not likely. Thus putting all your eggs in one basket within online marketing is also not recommended.

Instead... do your best to build naturally with all your projects and you should be okay. Google as other search engines (and humans too) simply want to give their readers the best content possible. If you focus on that within your work you will succeed in organica rankings as well as other areas.

There are lies, damned lies, statistics and SEO rumours, in descending order of veracity!

Unless these SEO sites link to a Google source they are merely speculating or reporting their findings . My understanding is some new algos ARE in the process of being rolled out but its too early to have hard facts about it.

Somethings on that list look offf. Google is not going to penalize any link . Disregard it or lower its importance maybe. Blogs? Google can;t penalize blogs maybe comments but I've yet to see that.

Paid links, FFAs, 1 to 1l links are old stuff not something new.

Of the entire list the only one I am inclined a bit to believe is Article directories. its pretty well known that they are not what they used to be. So much spun content garbage articles are thrown at some of the directories that you can barely find a good article on the whole site. No hard evidence but I wouldn't be surprised if google puts a few of the directories under the gun in terms of devaluing their importance.

You can do all of the above. Just make sure you are PROVIDING VALUE to the internet while doing it and you'll be fine. It's that simple.

Google is not going to penalize you for building links. They can devalue some types of links, that's it.

Do you have a link that says this is going on?

Wow, thanks for the heads up! I guess this means those automated submission programs (Scrapebox, Article Marketing Demon) have gone from backlinking tools to weapons of mass destruction against your SEO competition.

:rolleyes:

You can never have negative penalties for external links, at best Google will ignore those links. If Google started penalizing sites for external links it would be so easy to get high-ranking websites of your competitors penalized.

The sky is falling, the sky is falling! More misreading of the Google tea leaves and boy don't they encourage it. I just love it!

Doesn't this; "are using these channels for normal activities" mean if you do any or all of the listed activities for NORMAL activities then you won't be penalized.

normal activity could be defined as common business practices right?

Dude they caught JCPenny for paid links when they had alexa rank 600 with millions and millions of traffic.
Do you think they gonna penalize blogs with 100-200 visitors a day for very less to none Grey Hat methods ?

You`re asking way too much from Google.

More empty scare tactics. Its simple if your using underhanded methods... google soon catches up. If you are using legit methods.. your fine

If this were true (it is not), SEO will be easier. It will consist of spamming the social bookmarks sites, facebook, twitter and the like with competitors links

On article directories, you have to be comatose if you can't see there has been a recent crackdown to demand higher quality of articles and elimination of spam. Even high PR content mills like Demand and Suite are getting strict on what their writers can or can't produce. Google's human search program through Leapforce and Lionbridge are now evaluating article quality, presumably to fine-tune the next generation of bots that are going to read articles for human spun content on stuff that's already out there, which is not anymore useful than copy/paste from wikipedia.

I think everything on that list is going to be hit very hard by Google in the near future including blog networks like Linkvana. Blog networks are not known for their high quality NY Times worthy posts.

Down the road, I think that will eventually affect my own websites in a negative way as well. My websites are just rehashes of other websites.

Sorry - I know you are concerned, but do we HAVE to go to this silly place again.

IF THIS WAS THE CASE, your competition would use Xrumer or link to your site from bookmarking sites, blogs, etc. and spank your site down.

One of my blogs which has been PR5 for years now had someone try that and it didn't effect my ranking at all - never.

If you are really worried about it, go pure WHITE hat and write one article a week that is always between 800-2000 words long - it will take months, but your traffic will be rock solid.

So, before you made your list, you did not read the last sentence above the list.

Anybody can make a list. Unless Google lays out that list, this one is just another good story.

I agree with a lot of the replies. It depends on what you're doing exactly. Anything that looks like consistent spamming is going to raise more of a flag than ever.

Alot of this talk cannot be substantiated quite yet, but some of it can. Like, the search algorithm tweak that took place between the 24th and the 28th of January (sometime in that week) that targets scraped content that is republished and knocks it down in rank so that the original publisher's content and website is being displayed first.

In some cases, depending on how much content is scraped on some of these sites, Google is slapping people with excessive amounts of republished and spammy content. I've been reading up on and engaging in the conversations with people talking directly with Google about these things...

A lot of this stuff we're hearing, is true.

Is it effecting everyone yet? Nope.

Is it effecting some people? Yep.

Will it effect us more in the future? Depends on what you're doing. They've become quite serious about quality content and have started taking definitive action against.. I don't know... low quality content.

As far as content farms go, they aren't taking direct action against content farms yet, but they are in the process of approaching that situation with algorithmic changes that either torch content farms completely or devalue the hell of out of them.

I went nuts on that one huh? I'm an SEO fanatic. Ultimately, like usual, stay under the radar if you're doing anything you think Google won't like (or is directly against guidelines) and you should be alright. Yes, they are making some shifts. We just have to watch them, analyze a bit and calibrate based on the moves they're making.

Google stated that they will be penalizing blog comment links 2 years ago!
Guess what? they are still effective and i use them effectively to gain rankings.

Actually we don't have much options, in term of building backlinks. Where else you can build links except Blog comments, Forum profiles, Articles Submissions, Blog posts, paid site-wide links, Web 2.0 pages, Wikis, Social bookmarking, Video Submissions??

They say, backlinks should come naturally, and people link to your sites naturally when they can find your websites in top rankings, and how on earth you can rank your website without backlinks to be found naturally lol?

I'd say, stick to what you've been doing for backlinks, because these statements are just to confuse webmasters and to make their Algorithm difficult to find loop holes, that you can exploit, and luckily Backlinks are one of them.

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Nothing but rumors, keep building links from what ever source you are doing, just make sure you not do any bulk link building, like adding 10000 links and ping them the same day...

Even if blog comments and forum comments are meaningless in terms of links, I just won a client from a forum I regularly contribute to which is going to give me $22,000 revenue over the next 4 months.

hii Alminc, i think you were spot on. but i want to add few points..
> ppl those are diversifying their link practices are still getting good results with web 2.0,forum profiles and directory subs..
> ppl who are still blindly spamming are dead.

anything too much is strictly no no