3 Websites same ip causes low ranking

by soup 16 replies
Hello,

I have 3 chinese restaurants on the same IP and as a result only 2 of the 3 are getting a first page listing and when one moves up, the other moves down.

Will this be fixed if I change the hosting so they all have a different IP?

Also, any idea if I should change the whois data as they are all registered to the same address(the company I work for)?

Thanks,

Gordon
#search engine optimization #low #ranking #websites
  • Profile picture of the author aygabtu
    I doubt that is the issue. I have multiple sites on the same IP. That happens all over the world on nearly every web server. How many people and companies have a one-for-one website to IP address? I doubt very many.
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  • Profile picture of the author jhonsean
    With the same IP it really causes your rankings to go down because of the competition.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Dean
    Ranking going down because websites on same server i.p?

    Try telling that to the 500,000 websites owners on Bluehost Hosting on shared hosting and the same i.p.
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    • Profile picture of the author turok
      Originally Posted by Tony Dean View Post

      Ranking going down because websites on same server i.p?

      Try telling that to the 500,000 websites owners on Bluehost Hosting on shared hosting and the same i.p.
      exactly! same IP is not an issue
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      • Profile picture of the author soup
        Turok,

        Again, your not reading the question. The ip is the same and whois data is the same. Also, its not like the 3 companies are competing for 3 different terms. They are in the SAME geographic region, SAME type of company and selling the exact SAME product on the same ip.

        The fact they have the same IP is NOT the only thing they have in common.

        I know there wouldn't be a problem if one of them was trying to rank for totally different keywords, but these keywords are exactly the same with the same geographic modifier.

        When one company jumps to the first page, the other jumps to the second, it doesn't move to the space below, but actually jumps off the page.

        I know thousands of websites can share the same IP. I know this wouldn't normally cause a problem with rankings. What I don't know is if would cause a problem with rankings for companies selling the exact same thing, in the exact same geographical area.

        Any information, without stating just stating abstract 'well known facts', would be very much appreciated.
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        • Profile picture of the author abadrj1
          Hi Soup. Respectfully, I think you have missed the point. The other comments have pointed out that since it is not the shared ip address, you need to work on other issues.

          Like for every site you try to rank, on page seo, and off page seo (links) determine where your pages land in the search engines.

          In your case, you can use the same host for all three site. Just concentrate on good seo for each of them.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            I agree with others that you are perhaps drawing wrong conclusions.

            Are these three unique sites - or three branded versions of one basic site?
            Are you using Google maps and Google place pages (I think that's what they are called)?

            Are you trying for high SE ranking overall - or high local ranking results?

            kay
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  • Profile picture of the author soup
    Thanks for your replys. But I don't think most of you are understanding the question, maybe it's the way I asked it.

    The 3 companies are competing for the same term 'chinese restaurant(with local modifier). They also have the same IP address and whois information. On bluehost not everyone is fighting over "chinese restaurant" they are targeting different terms.

    Its would understand what you are saying if one was competing for chinese restaurant, and one was competing for italian.
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  • Profile picture of the author soup
    Hello Kay,

    The content is unique on the 3 sites although the businesses are the same. As it is a brick and mortar business they are being ranked using Google places results(larger 7 pack merged with organic listing).

    I understand that normally a shared IP would not matter, but these companies are in close proximity, and sell the same product on the same IP.

    Also as I mentioned before. When one of these companies moves up, the other has a dramatic fall. Google is not serving both listings at once, it can vary from day to day, but when one of the companies rise up the rankings, the other one falls dramatically.

    This is what has led me to believe the IP may be causing as maybe Google doesn't like serving closely related brick on mortar pages results on the same page if they have similar attributes with the same IP. I know that people are saying Google wouldn't do this, but who actually knows??
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  • Profile picture of the author soup
    Here you will see people hosting multiple domains, selling the same product but they have done so on a different ip. So obviously they believe IP has an impact. http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ur-advise.html
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I don't think your conclusion is correct. BUT - if you are convinced, move one of the sites to a different host and see if that changes anything.

      That will tell you if the shared IP is the problem or not.

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      • Profile picture of the author soup
        Thanks Kay, I've done further research on this, a couple of the guys from SEO round table have said that it causes a problem if your on the same ip, selling a similar product.

        I'll change hosts and let you know how it goes, although there seems to be a bit of an Algo update with local results as of today.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Will be interested in hearing your results - if there's something to the theory, we'll all be smarter.
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  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    I pay extra to hostgator so they give me different IPs. Not sure if it helps, considering the the IPs are the same number except for the last digit.

    123.432.12.121
    123.432.12.122
    123.432.12.123
    123.432.12.124
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOSrilanka
    I have never in life have heard sites in same host with the same ip(range) will cause problem on ranking similar keywords and i doubt this. I will be over this thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author soup
      Update

      Two days ago I switched the sites so they were on 3 different IP's. All 3 sites are now on the first page - 2 of them sites are showing as merged places results(organic result with places info).

      I will keep you all updated, if all three restaurants stay on the first page, I would say changing host probably had an impact.
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