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Same Article to Different Directories - Do You Change the "Title" and why?

by Dano1981
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he warriors!

Great day or eve to you!

I am starting my 1st campaign to submit articles that I published on ezine and articlesbase, and to a few other directories

I am not a "spinner" nor is there a need to, since I am the articles orignial author and as such I need to leave my article "intact" they say "don't change anything on it," well I take that literally

BUT I have seen a few threads or posts where someone will say they submit the same article to different directories but "Change up the Title a little bit"

WHY?

Are they worried that they will be "competing with them-self" if the article in the SERPs?

Will that no longer make the article "unique" in google garanimal's eyes, and perhaps have a negative effect?


thank you mates!
your experience or knowledge in this are would be interesting to know

Dano~
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    I personally don't think it matters. If the content is the same then the title won't matter. A lot of article directories modify the title to include the site's name anyway.

    If you want the articles to index, then just send them some links.

    My unoriginal articles still seems to make a difference to my rankings. I'm not creating them to get the article ranked itself, just some juice flowing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dano1981
      thanks fraggler,

      ok so then once I post the same article to a bunch of different directories what the best way to get traffic to them?

      and if the answer is "links" or backlinks
      any suggestion of what type? or from where?

      thanks ya !

      Dano~

      Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

      I personally don't think it matters. If the content is the same then the title won't matter. A lot of article directories modify the title to include the site's name anyway.

      If you want the articles to index, then just send them some links.

      My unoriginal articles still seems to make a difference to my rankings. I'm not creating them to get the article ranked itself, just some juice flowing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    Hi Dano,

    I'm not an article marketer but I do know there are much better ways to get traffic to your articles rather than relying on organic traffic.

    I use articles for nothing more than backlinks and using duplicate content still seems to work fine for me. I do create an RSS feed out of my articles and submit them to a Yahoo Pipe which seems to get crawled a lot.

    If you want your articles themselves to get you traffic (which you use to funnel people to your main site) then I recommend tracking down posts by members such as tpw (Bill) and Alexa. You will find them hanging out in the Main Discussion forum.

    The idea is to get your article in front of the right eyes so they get syndicated onto peoples sites which already have traffic...well that's my impression. You need to track down the sites that do use syndicated content and either approach them directly or find where they are sourcing them from - and the type of articles they are after.

    I hope that helps but it isn't something I do much.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
      Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

      Hi Dano,

      I'm not an article marketer but I do know there are much better ways to get traffic to your articles rather than relying on organic traffic.

      I use articles for nothing more than backlinks and using duplicate content still seems to work fine for me. I do create an RSS feed out of my articles and submit them to a Yahoo Pipe which seems to get crawled a lot.

      If you want your articles themselves to get you traffic (which you use to funnel people to your main site) then I recommend tracking down posts by members such as tpw (Bill) and Alexa. You will find them hanging out in the Main Discussion forum.

      The idea is to get your article in front of the right eyes so they get syndicated onto peoples sites which already have traffic...well that's my impression. You need to track down the sites that do use syndicated content and either approach them directly or find where they are sourcing them from - and the type of articles they are after.

      I hope that helps but it isn't something I do much.

      Good luck!
      the problem is that arent these links on article directories no follow? thats what i read when i read the code it says '' rel=nofollow'' but i may be wrong.
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      • Profile picture of the author john smith1
        according to me article with different titles will help you to avoid spamming.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dano1981
          thank you for your very helpful info fraggler,

          I did take a look at yahoo pipe, never heard of it before, very interesting, I can see I'll be up late!

          Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

          Hi Dano,

          I'm not an article marketer but I do know there are much better ways to get traffic to your articles rather than relying on organic traffic.

          I use articles for nothing more than backlinks and using duplicate content still seems to work fine for me. I do create an RSS feed out of my articles and submit them to a Yahoo Pipe which seems to get crawled a lot.

          If you want your articles themselves to get you traffic (which you use to funnel people to your main site) then I recommend tracking down posts by members such as tpw (Bill) and Alexa. You will find them hanging out in the Main Discussion forum.

          The idea is to get your article in front of the right eyes so they get syndicated onto peoples sites which already have traffic...well that's my impression. You need to track down the sites that do use syndicated content and either approach them directly or find where they are sourcing them from - and the type of articles they are after.

          I hope that helps but it isn't something I do much.

          Good luck!
          I know lots are no follow but if there's a link to your site then of course the benifit is the traffic one way or another, but perhaps no link juice

          Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar View Post

          the problem is that arent these links on article directories no follow? thats what i read when i read the code it says '' rel=nofollow'' but i may be wrong.
          hey john

          never heard about diif titles to avoid "spamming" that's a new one to me?

          maybe you mean "dup content" but that's a myth when it comes to keeping the article in tact with same auth and links

          as far as I know it's ok

          so not sure what you mean by spamming in this instance ?

          Originally Posted by john smith1 View Post

          according to me article with different titles will help you to avoid spamming.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dano1981
            hey there again!

            anyone have a more experienced point of view
            or paradigm?

            dano~
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  • Profile picture of the author ysb888
    I think you should use article spinning software but you have to spin it manually with your own synonym. So just spend around 20 or 30 minutes, you can have around 30 to 40 unique article for submit at any directory.
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    • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
      Originally Posted by ysb888 View Post

      I think you should use article spinning software but you have to spin it manually with your own synonym. So just spend around 20 or 30 minutes, you can have around 30 to 40 unique article for submit at any directory.
      You can absolutely do that... if you have no problem with the Google Panda algorithm change eating you for lunch

      Now more than ever, Google is stressing the importance of original, quality content. The garbage that comes out of a spinner offers neither (and, yes there are people out there who swear by spinners. They also admit that you have to do alot of "tweaking" before your spun article is anything close to readable. It's far easier and far more effective to simply rewrite something by hand, rather than spin it)

      As far as the OP's original question, you do not need to change the title or the article to submit it to different directories (unless a particular directory's terms of service say that you can only submit previously unpublished content).

      If, however, you publish the same article to 10 different directories, there's a good chance that only 1 of them will appear in the search results (with the other 9 in the supplemental index, or what you see when you click "similar" in the results) Google does that so that you don't wind up with an entire page of results that's all the same article, but it's definitely not a penalty.
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  • Profile picture of the author byronhbrown
    Originally Posted by Dano1981 View Post

    he warriors!

    Great day or eve to you!

    I am starting my 1st campaign to submit an article that I published on ezine and articlesbase a couple of weeks back to other directories

    I am not a "spinner" nor is there a need to, since I am the articles orignial author and as such I need to leave my article "intact"

    BUT I have seen a few threads or posts where someone will say they submit the same article to different directories but "Change up the Title a little bit"

    WHY?

    Are they worried that they will be "competing with them-self" if the article in the SERPs?

    Will that no longer make the article "unique" in google garanimal's eyes, and perhaps have a negative effect?


    thank you mates!
    your experience or knowledge in this are would be interesting to know

    Dano~

    Some sites will not accept your article if they find it that it already exists on another site. That is why some people try to spin them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dano1981
      thank you bryron and ybs

      so then (just want to make sure)

      So when using and submitting the same article to various directories
      "DO NOT" use the same title?

      is there a larger consensus?
      or are these posts not accurate in their assumption?

      anyone? would love to know!

      Dano~
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  • Profile picture of the author jonnyhardbaked
    just submit the same article. It will not have negative effects on your article.
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  • Profile picture of the author Heavenstorm
    i always submit the same article without changing the body or title to various directories and its fine
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryDermots
    According to me, you should post same article to around 10 directories, it is good in some ways.

    As there is possibility that all 10 directories would give you back links on the other hand if you submit to only one then the benefit would be taken by others.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dano1981
      thanks for the vote of confidence!

      Originally Posted by Heavenstorm View Post

      i always submit the same article without changing the body or title to various directories and its fine
      sean let me ask you, I use the online rss tool, but sometimes will all the tasks associated with promoting an article, I might accidentally "submit the feed a second time" do you know what the danger and risks of submitting the same article or site a second time, if there has been no change to it?

      Originally Posted by jhonsean View Post

      In order to gain huge traffic to your site you can try RSS submission and social media.
      thank you for the thoughtful response nicole,

      thank you for the info on the "supplemental index" now that you mention it, I had heard that before, but thanks for the refresher, as I had forgotten

      Danni~

      Originally Posted by NicoleBeckett View Post

      You can absolutely do that... if you have no problem with the Google Panda algorithm change eating you for lunch

      Now more than ever, Google is stressing the importance of original, quality content. The garbage that comes out of a spinner offers neither (and, yes there are people out there who swear by spinners. They also admit that you have to do alot of "tweaking" before your spun article is anything close to readable. It's far easier and far more effective to simply rewrite something by hand, rather than spin it)

      As far as the OP's original question, you do not need to change the title or the article to submit it to different directories (unless a particular directory's terms of service say that you can only submit previously unpublished content).

      If, however, you publish the same article to 10 different directories, there's a good chance that only 1 of them will appear in the search results (with the other 9 in the supplemental index, or what you see when you click "similar" in the results) Google does that so that you don't wind up with an entire page of results that's all the same article, but it's definitely not a penalty.
      according to "me" lol! I like your ego! then how do you go about promoting your articles?

      Originally Posted by MaryDermots View Post

      According to me, you should post same article to around 10 directories, it is good in some ways.

      As there is possibility that all 10 directories would give you back links on the other hand if you submit to only one then the benefit would be taken by others.
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  • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
    I think a lot of people are confused by the content duplication rule cause they don't know why it was created...I wrote a blog post about this...

    VQ Success Affiliate Training Day #16: SEO Strategies Part I | VQ Success

    I send the same article to a lot of directories, for link building, and it works very well. I explain more in the post...good luck to you
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  • Profile picture of the author jack jastin
    In my opinion, Posting same article may cause to spam so its better, Do some changes in your article by using synonyms and some comprehensions that will give your article an uniqueness.
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