My First 4 Figure Day, 5 Figure Month and 6 Figure Year - Now 2 Years! UPADTED!

by Chucky
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First 4 Figure day - Black Friday 2010
First 5 Figure month - November 2010
First 6 Figure year - 2010
Updated with 2011 holiday season results below!

Update May 2012: In the extremely rare event you haven't heard of the Penguin update that was rolled out on April 24th 2012 --> the strategy that I outline in this thread which worked for 3-4 years, may not work any more. The guidelines I discuss here on on page SEO may get you an over-optimization penalty and backlinking methods I discuss here may get you more penalties or may not be given any credit.

Many of my sites that used the following strategy were unmoved by the Pandas, but were annihilated by the Penguin.

Mindset and keyword research modules are fine to follow, but as far as on page SEO and off page SEO go, you have been warned!!


(7 YouTube Videos Below)

Day 1 - The mindset

Day 2 - 5 videos added on keyword research
Day 4 - Text added on keyword research
Day 7 - On page SEO
Day 13 - Off page SEO - Part 1
Day 18 - Off page SEO - Part 2
Day 24 - Off page SEO - Part 3

I beat my own targets
2010 was a memorable year in my IM carrier. What was magical about it was the fact that I had initially planned on achieving these goals in 2013 but they happened in 2010.

Why 2013?
Currently I’m in grad school and I’m graduating in 2012. I didn’t think I could maintain a GPA of 3.9/4.0 and achieve my IM goals before graduating. But I was WRONG!

Time to give back
I have learned a ton from Warrior Forum (both free information and paid WSOs) and I thought it would be terribly wrong if I didn’t give anything back to the forum.

Free traffic from organic Google rankings
First 4 figure day – November 26th 2010 (Black Friday) - $2400
First 5 figure month – November 2010 - $21,000
First 6 figure year – 2010

Where's the PROOF?



UPDATE 2012 January
The purpose of this screenshot is NOT to brag, but simply to encourage you so that you know this was NOT a one time fluke! This will also be my last update as far as proof of income goes, if figures from 2 years in a row won't convince one to take action, nothing will.
Disclaimer: all this is not from free traffic, this year I experimented with a few paid traffic methods targeting Black Friday/Cyber Monday, however those earnings are less than 10% from the screenshot below.


Two other people also have reported their success targeting BF/CM in 2011 after following this thread here and here

2012 UPDATE complete:
What's below this point is what I wrote back in March 2011. Some of the details may have changed, but the basic principles remain the same even as of January 2012.

All of above was from free traffic. Currently I have over half a dozen #1 rankings on Google and another dozen or so elsewhere on the first page. Most of them are similar to sniper sites with an average of about 4-5 posts. Two of them are larger sites with multiple rankings for various different long tail keywords. These two larger sites have about 30 - 80 posts in them.

Not with Amazon yet? BIG MISTAKE
The video below shows the products for which I earned a commission on Black Friday



All eggs are not in the same basket

My income comes from ClickBank, Commission Junction and Amazon (and like $50/month from adsense).

If you can't find all the videos, here is my YouTube channel where you will be able to watch all the videos

Success - the Essence
I intend to share my on page and off page SEO strategies in this thread. However, I STRONGLY believe that my SEO knowledge played a relatively small role in this success. If one asks me to list the factors in the order that they contributed to this success, I think my list is going to be something like this.
  1. Positive attitude – I had ABSOLUTELY no doubt in my mind that I was going to achieve these goals
  2. Ability to think BIG – think 4 steps ahead
  3. Ability to prioritize things (e.g. read ‘Think and Grow Rich’ vs watch American Idol)
  4. Realization that knowledge means NOTHING without ACTION
  5. TAKING ACTION
  6. Ability to take a ‘failure’ as a lesson and to move on – I had many failures when starting off; but I always thought “if others could do it, I could do it better”
  7. Sticking to one system instead of jumping from one model to another – there are many ways to skin a cat; but you only need to learn one way to do it
  8. On page and off page SEO
  9. Picking the right niche market (and then the right product)
  10. Providing value to customers and engaging them for better conversions – in some of my review sites, my #1 recommended product gives me a smaller commission than #2 and #3 products. I’ve seen a lot of reviews simply based on the affiliate commission instead of the actual product value, but I just don’t do that.
NOTE: My personal belief is that you need to get above 1 - 7 right regardless of what you want to be successful in. This is purely my personal opinion. I have not had a formal education in business or marketing.

I have many weaknesses
I WANT TO REALLY STRESS THE FOLLOWING POINTS. I'm far from perfect. I have many weaknesses. I will list a few of them below.
  1. I’m slow – I hate to admit it, but I am. I’ve been wanting to write this since December, but it took me 3 months to get it going
  2. I’m not very organized – I have many incomplete websites; I have many domains that I have purchased, but never used; I have got content written for about a half a dozen new websites, but they are still in my inbox (from outsource-rs); for some websites, I don’t have analytics installed so I don’t know the keywords that are bringing them traffic/sales; for some websites that are already on the 2nd page, I don’t have any affiliate links – I’m probably leaving money on the table; I have never used an auto-responder and thus have no list – again I’m losing money in the long run here
  3. I can’t multi-task. I can only do one thing at a time. I cannot think about building links while I’m still making a website or studying for an exam.
  4. My business model is not the most stable – I have a few sites bringing all my money. Should a couple of them get thrown away from their current positions, I will lose like 50% of my IM income. I am aware of this; but haven’t done a lot about it. I’d rather have 10 sites that make $500/month than 4 sites that make $2500/month (unfortunately my current situation is closer to the latter than the former)
  5. I get emotional and attached to my websites – my very first websites were all failures. Either they were in the wrong market, targeted the wrong keywords (with no commercial intent) or they had no significant search volume. Yet I was reluctant to move to a different market or different keyword, instead wasted a lot of time and $ trying to squeeze water from stone.
  6. I’m not the most outgoing personality – as a result, my WF avatar doesn’t have my picture, I don’t have a Facebook or Twitter account and as a result I don’t do any social networking (thus missing out on the whole social marketing thing). This is also why I’m not in the IM niche. Come to think of it, I don’t even have my real name in my profile …. maybe one day… soon!!
Why did I say all that?
Because I want you to understand that one does not need to be perfect to be successful in IM. I have many deficiencies. In spite of all those, I have been relatively successful in IM with the few hours (as little as 1 – 3 hours/day) that I can spend on it.

SEO that I wish to share
When I started writing this, my plan was to write the whole thread in one go. But it has already taken me like 12 hours (including figuring out Camtasia and making the videos) and I think I have like another 40 hours of SEO that I want to share with you in my head. For example I wish to talk at least about the following broad topics:
  1. Keyword research – I’ll be honest here. This is probably my weakest area. I do a few basic things. I don’t think any of that is unique to me. In the early days, I used to be a lot conservative, but now I’m not afraid to compete with big players; so I’m not too concerned about kw research. Currently I’m ranking #12 for a relatively broad keyword: a two word phrase e.g. boys games (just an example) and I’m super excited about it. All the keyword tools that I used told me to keep away from this keyword, but I didn't listen to them. In the early days I would have never gone for this. Instead I would have gone for something like “young boys outdoor games”. (EDIT: Even though I said that originally, I believe I ended up doing a detailed write up on keyword research and domain selection - see Day 4 content)
  2. Basic and advanced on page SEO – if you’ve been in IM a while and you have multiple #1 rankings, you should probably not waste your time reading my methods. But if you are not there yet, I can assure you that you will learn many things that will do you a whole lot of good if you put them to action. I will probably try and spend a lot of time on the interlinking structure as I don’t see many people addressing this important aspect of SEO enough.
  3. Basic and advanced off page SEO – my typical #1 position has fewer backlinks pointing to it than backlinks for #2 and #3 websites combined. This is not true when I outrank Amazon.com or Wikipedia. Because they are authority sites, they get ranked with much fewer or no backlinks. I believe I will be talking about some advanced off page SEO. I also understand that for some relatively new warriors these concepts will be super-advanced while for others (e.g. those like Dan Thies or Leslie Rhodie) my advanced SEO may be basic.
I have many checklists etc. on MS Excel sheets and I will share them with you when I figure out how to upload them to this thread.

By the way I don’t call myself an SEO specialist. I may only know a fraction of what people like Dan Thies or Leslie Rhodie know. But the fact that I have over a half a dozen #1 rankings that earned me my first six figures online probably suggests that I know enough SEO to give a beginner a jump start in their IM carrier.

I’m going to call it a day now and will come back tomorrow to start some SEO. Got to go do something that will actually make me some money

UPDATE March 21st - Day 2
5 New Videos on keyword research added

I reveal 2 niches (flip video cameras and kids karaoke machines) and 4 potential keyword phrases. For some of them 'exact match domains' are still available.

The 5 videos were nearly 1 hour long and kind of cluttered the page. So I took them to a post further down this page. The text added on Day 4 on keyword research should be more concise and organized than the videos. However, the videos address certain aspects that I don't in the text. So if you have time you are encouraged to watch them, but if you don't have the time (like me); the text on Day 4 should give you a good foundation.

UPDATE March 23rd - Day 4
Keyword research and Domain Selection

The importance of keyword research cannot be emphasized enough. If you pick the wrong keyword, you can spend tons of time and money without a significant return. Sometimes, you get the coveted #1, but you find it has no commercial intent and therefore ZERO $$ (been there done that ).
In the past, I have spent a couple of hours on keyword research (for a business that I’m going to build that will earn me $1000s for life) and paid the price dearly. Only now am I realizing the real importance of it. This is the foundation of your business. Don’t be afraid (or lazy) to spend days on it (instead of hours) if you have to!


Now that I have produced several winners, I don't go in to a LOT of details because I know a few tricks to beat my competition. But if you are starting out, it's best that you pay as much attention as possible to this initial step of your business. Remember, you're building a business, not just a website!

3 Vital Parameters

Whether you use manual methods or paid tools, the goal should be to find a keyword with
  1. Sufficient search volume
  2. A level of competition that you can handle
  3. Enough commercial intent (instead of informational)
Different people use different parameters depending on their personal preferences/strengths

Search volume

  1. I personally think you cannot give concrete figures for the search volume. For example, if you were to sell an expensive $1000 item (Jewellery, industrial equipment on Amazon – hint hint!!) with a 7% commission, 10 sales/month is $700. For a laser targeted buying keyword with high commercial intent, a search volume as little as 300/month can give you that $700. The other extreme is also true. So you really have to make a call depending on the product you are promoting.
  2. The general consensus is that you should target a search phrase with approximately 3000 exact searches/month. That’s 100 searches/day and will get you 40 visitors/day if you
    1. Obtain #1 position on Google
    2. And if you get traffic ONLY through that single kw – this almost never happens; you are bound to get traffic from all kinds of long tail kw.
  3. If you are starting out, it is VERY IMPORTANT that you start on a POSITIVE note. In other words, you don’t want to be targeting a highly competitive keyword just because you want to go with the 3000 searches/month norm. You’d rather target a keyword with only 750 searches/month (exact count), get that #1 position and get some confidence going even if it is only going to earn you $75/month. THIS IS ALSO WHAT I DID at the beginning. Had I targeted a term like ‘Dog Obedience Training’, I may have already given up internet marketing and may not have been in a position to write this post today.(I did right at the beginning, but thankfully I failed fast )

Competition
  1. What competition? That’s what some SUPER AFFILIATES like James Schramko says! When you get to that level, when you have $1000s to throw away, when you have produced dozens of winners you can say that. But if you are just starting out, I personally think you should pick a keyword with relatively low competition so that you are going to taste success sooner than later.
  2. The general consensus is that you should target a keyword with less than 30,000 ‘competition’. Here, ‘competition’ is taken as the number of results you get when you do an exact search for your phrase on Google; e.g. “dog training obedience” (the keyword inside inverted commas). Tools like Micro Niche Finder (MNF), automatically gives this (they call it the phrase count). I rank #1 for a keyword with a phrase count of 8 million. I would personally not worry about it too much. Even if you are just starting out, if all other factors look fabulous, I wouldn’t pitch a keyword just because it has a phrase count of 100,000. OBVIOUSLY, the lower the phrase count the better, but don’t let that be the only guideline for analyzing competition.
  3. The phrase count kind of addresses the ‘quantity’ of competition. But what about the ‘quality’ of competition? From what I know, phrase count includes any indexed page that has in its text the keyword phrase you are looking for in that same order. It DOES NOT tell you if these sites have the keyword in the title tag, H1 tag, meta tags, hyperlinks, URL etc. etc. This is what paid keyword tools like MNF and Market Samurai (MS) do. The ‘strength of competition’ figure in MNF (abbreviated as SOC) takes some of the above mentioned parameters in to consideration. MNF shows SOC by using 3 colors: green for easy, yellow for intermediate difficulty and red for very difficult. MS shows a variety of other parameters like number of backlinks, domain age, links from authority directories etc. etc. as well. Again, they use the same 3 colors to show level of ease/difficulty. The more green you see in the competition, the better! These tools (and probably others that I have never used) give you an idea about your competition.
  4. Again, if you are starting out, shoot for a keyword with not too much competition both quantity and quality wise. With MNF, go no further than yellow!
  5. We are still not done! Once you find the above parameters to be doable, you need to look at the CURRENT rankings for that search phrase. What are the top 4-5 websites? Here are some of the things that come into my head as I’m typing this.
    1. Are they all authority sites with 1000s of indexed pages and millions of backlinks? Even if they are, that doesn’t mean you should keep away from them. Amazon is a perfect example that has high PR, high trust rank (whatever that is), a lot of pages and a lot of backlinks. But people (including myself) beat Amazon easily. However, if a particular authority site is laser targeted to the exact keyword you are trying to target, that may be a different story.
    2. How optimized are their ranking pages for the keyword of your interest?
      1. Title tag
      2. Meta Description tag
      3. Domain name/Page name – URL
    3. You can see all above 3 things on the search results page itself. Now you should also click in to each website and look at the following factors
      1. H1, H2, H3 tags
      2. Keyword richness in content
      3. Images – ALT tags
      4. Hyperlinks etc.
    4. Are the above parameters optimized or not? If they are very well optimized, then you may have a hard time beating them if you are just starting out. We want to find ‘competition’ that is not well optimized.
    5. What about the number of backlinks to the competition? This really doesn’t matter if their on page optimization is not that good. In the example that I show in the video the well optimized #1 non-authority site with an exact match domain (EMD) beats not so optimized authority sites with tons of PR and backlinks (for the search term flip video reviews). However, if their on page optimization is also good and they have tons of backlinks pointing to them, that may be another indication that we should keep away from it. The general consensus is that if your competition has 200-300 backlinks (to the exact page – not the domain), you have a winner. But as I have shown above, you may be able to handle more backlinks than that if their on page factors are not so good.
As you can see, I have explained competition analysis in quite some depth. That’s because it is very important. Sure you can do a lot more analyses and it shouldn’t end here. But for those who are not targeting $5K/month keywords, this should be plenty.

Commercial intent
  1. Do you see a lot of Google adwords for that search phrase?
  2. Does Google Adwords Keywords Tool say there is a lot of competition for this phrase?
  3. Are there many affiliate websites already promoting products with this or closely related keywords?
  4. Do potential products on ClickBank have a high gravity?
  5. Are there products on Amazon? What about customer reviews?
  6. Does Detecting Online Commercial Intention: Audience Intelligence: adCenter Labs say it has a high commercial intent?
  7. Do you have to convince the buyer (e.g. you can save gas by converting your car to run on water) or is the buyer already convinced/desperate and addicted to the product you’re trying to sell (e.g. product name keywords (PNK)?
  8. Are there genuine products that will truly provide a solution to the searcher (e.g. home remedy for acne cure) related to the keyword you are going to target?
  9. Is there already a ton of free information available on the web? With physical products, you will not have to worry about this.
I believe I have covered keyword research in sufficient depth for anybody that is not targeting $5K/month keywords. As I said at the beginning, this is a crucial step. Get it wrong and everything downstream becomes more difficult.

YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO BE LAZY WITH KEYWORD RESEARCH

Domain name selection
Once you have selected your keyword, your next step is domain name selection. I am yet to give up a good keyword because I could not get a good domain. The more keyword rich and more specific the domain name is, easier your ranking process will be.

Most preferred domain name
Obviously, the most preferred domain name is the exact match domain (EMD) on one of the three top level domains (TLD; i.e: .com, .net, .org).

Sticking with the example of flip video reviews, that would be flipvideoreviews.com, flipvideoreviews.net, or flipvideoreviews.org.

I have an exact match .info which is #1. Obviously, I built this site when I was starting my IM carrier about 3 years ago and did not want to spend on the .net or .com (honestly I don’t remember if those were available). My feeling is that I have to continuously give it content (posts) or backlinks and if not it falls in the rankings. I have #1s in .com, .net and .org. I have a feeling those are more resilient. However, I CANNOT come in to a scientific conclusion about this because my sample size is very small and the levels of competition are different among the different websites.

However, my advice as well as the general consensus is that you should stick with the TLDs if you are looking at building a long term business.

EMDs are not available ?

What do you do if the EMDs are gone? You have 3 options. Either you look for E-M-D, prefixEMD or EMDsuffix. I’m going to list my personal preferences below. Different people have different points of views. This is mine. I suggest you look at the examples I have given and make an intelligent decision as to what you feel suits best for your particular situation.
  • E-M-D : e.g. flip-videoreviews.com (one hyphen is better than two hyphens).
Here are some examples of hyphenated domain names ranking at the top
  1. www.dog-obedience-training-review.com/ for dog training
  2. www.european-wall-tapestries.com/ #1 for European tapestries and #2 for tapestries
  3. www.colon-cleanse-information.com/ #2 for colon cleanse information
  4. www.best-colon-cleanse.com/ ranks above www.bestcoloncleanse.org/ for best colon cleanse (the number of pages and backlinks are stronger with the E-M-D though)
  5. www.forex-strategies-revealed.com/ #1 for forex strategies
  6. http://www.flip-video-review.org/ is ranking on page #3 with 3 links to the domain
  7. I personally have a two word keyword (hyper competitive) ranking at #12 (page 2) with a hyphenated E-M-D
  • EMDsuffix : e.g. flipvideoreviewssite.com, EMDinfo.com, EMDX (flipvideoreviewsX.com – I have personally not used this type of domain. But do a search for tinnitus miracle on Google and you will see EMDV, EMDZ and EMDJ on the first page – EMDV ranks above EMD; EMDbonus and EMDreview rank above EMDZ and EMDJ; I did not spend time to look at their on page or off page optimization)
  1. acaiberrydietnow.com/ beats acaiberriesdiet.com/ for **** berry diet
There are plenty of them around, can’t think of any other than than my own right now J Will update later.
  • prefixEMD : e.g. bestflipvideoreviews.com
  1. www.buypowercoloncleanse.com/ beats Colon Cleanse Ultra for power colon cleanse (didn’t check on page and off page SEO factors)
But what's the EASY BUTTON?

The big question is OK but what’s the easiest? I’m sorry I don’t know a concrete answer. But what I do know is that it doesn’t matter a lot. What matters is you pick one and get on with it! Since we are going to optimize other factors as much as possible and we have immaculately researched our keywords with in depth competition analysis, we should be able to make up for an non-perfect domain name.


That’s it for today guys. If and when I remember more things, I will be sure to update.

The videos have more information, only the first 3 videos on keyword research are functional as of now.


Thank you everybody for the encouraging words.

Update - March 21st

I just answered a question and I think it's a little important

Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

I believe I answered that question in the videos. I don't make nearly as much on a regular month from these sites. That is because I targeted black Friday products right from the go.

I was planning on talking about this during on page optimization. But since you raised the point, I'll briefly go through it now.

The MAJOR trick is this. When it comes to Black Friday, people (including myself) search for 'product name keyword + Black Friday Deals' etc. You want to optimize your pages for the right products and exploit the tons of traffic you're going to get on Black Friday and then throughout the month of Christmas.

There you go! That's a $100K tip right there!
Update March 26th - Day 7

On Page SEO

Step 1: KW Research – Primary keyword selection
Step 2: Domain name selection
I've already addressed above 2 points
Step 3: Secondary keyword selection
Step 4: Write content
Step 5: Site setup

Secondary keyword selection
I start all of my sites with 5 posts of content (excluding contact us, disclosure, privacy policy etc.). Each post is optimized for 1 kw. In the past, I optimized 1 post for the 1ry kw and 4 posts for 2ry kw. Very recently I changed that to 2 posts optimized for the 1ry kw and 3 posts optimized for secondary keywords. The latter type is very new and I haven’t even started backlinking most of them so it’s far too early for me to say anything concrete about it. The idea I wanted to test was that having two posts optimized for the 1ry kw (instead of 1 post) would make the website theme more optimized/focused and therefore easier/better rankings.

How do I find secondary kw?
Mostly, I use the Google WonderWheel to do this. If Google believes they are relevant kw, I would be a fool not to . But if I come across other related kw (even if WonderWheel doesn’t pick it as a directly related kw) with very low competition and high search volume, I would include that as a post.

Here’s is something new to think about.
I’ve done 4 projects of these so far and yet to see anybody talking about this. I don’t make single websites anymore. I make them in batches of 4 or 5 in the same niche. I’m sure not everybody is going to agree on this. But I have my reasons. So what I do is, if the niche is good, instead of identifying 5 kw (1 primary and 4 secondary), I would go ahead and look for as many kw as possible, while I’m spending time doing kw research. I’m going to learn about a new niche, so might as well make money from that niche using 5 websites than just 1 right? I will use the kw with the highest search volume as the primary keywords for the 4 or 5 websites. Others will be used as 2ry kw. Most sites in a batch/theme will have the same kw as secondary kw.

Content for 5 websites – approximately 25 pages of content!
In the past, I obviously used to write my own content (and I obviously didn’t make 5 sites at a time). But as my online earnings increased, I realized that I could do more productive things with my time than write kw optimized content. This is what I do. I get kw optimized content freshly written @ $3.50/piece. They are over 500 words in length. 5 pages of content = $17.50.

Then I get these rewritten by different people @ $2/article. So that’s $2X20 = $40. Total cost = $17.50 + 40 = ~$60 together with Odesk fees etc. I don’t think that’s a bad deal for content for 5 websites! Just $12/website for content.

From my 2nd such project onwards, I’ve been using Desktop WordPress Mass Blog Installer & Manager for Windows, Mac, or Linux to do the wordpress installation. Half an hour and all 5 websites are done with all of my plugins uploaded etc. It’s priced @ $30, but check out the WSO section for cheaper options. I saw some cheaper WP cloning software within the last month or so. They may do the same job as Desktop WordPress Mass Blog Installer & Manager for Windows, Mac, or Linux.

I know some of you are going to disagree with me on this method. I am rarely able to get two top rankings for two pages of the same site. But that's very rare. Usually, only the theme kw (primary kw) gets top rankings and others don't. In my experience, with these smaller sites, if I try to rank a 2nd kw, the 1ry one drops. I’m not the only one that says this; I’ve heard Terry Kyle and Tom Goodwin also say this. I heard it on a webinar they did with David Eisner. You should be able to find it somewhere here in the WF… there were a lot of SEO tips in that webinar. Obviously there has to be ways you can do it, however, I have not succeeded doing that with this type of smaller sites. Iguess I haven't tried to do it religiously either!

What triggered this idea was two sites that I made targeting Black Friday of 2009. Both these were EMDs and both of them got #1 (several months after Black Friday ). Whenever I wrote an article for one of them, I got it rewritten through Odesk and added it to the other site. So I thought, why not make them in clusters of 4-5 websites right from the beginning?

These clusters have been relatively successful in getting top rankings. Here are the stats.
  1. First batch - #1-2, #6, #11, #18, #201
  2. Second batch - #2, #3, #7-8, #11, #13-14 (this is the one I have put most effort on)
  3. Third batch - #11-12, #23, #115, last one is not ranked (this is the hyper competitive niche that I referred to earlier. All these are two word keywords and hyphenated URLs. e.g. video-games.com
  4. Fourth and Fifth batches – haven’t started backlinking, haven't checked rankings
Do they all make money?
In my experience, most of these micro-sites that target low search volume kw don’t make good money unless they reach the top half of the first page. Some of them don’t make money even if they reach the top (I have a couple of those - what a waste of resources). That’s because they’re not buying kw or their commercial intent is not as good as you though it would be. The only way around it (that I know of) is to setup an adwords campaign and see if it is buying kw or not. I’ve tried adwords in the past, but haven’t had good success. Definitely a good skill to have however strong your SEO may be.

On the other hand I also have sites that don’t rank on the first page for the primary kw yet make over 1K/month (not Amazon). These are either high search volume kw or it’s the ltbkw (long tail buying kw) that bring in the sales.

Take home message

Not every site will be a winner. What’s important is to fail fast if you want to look at it that way, learn from the exercise, and move on.

More about content
Although I outsource 5 pages of content, these are merely search engine fodder. When a site starts ranking, I will go ahead and rewrite/modify the homepage/sticky post myself.

The specific instructions that I give my writers are as follows
  • The article should have at least 500 words
  • Main keyword has to be mentioned at a density of 2% (10 times per 500 words)
  • 3 other keywords (secondary kw) have to be mentioned at least twice in the whole article (each kw twice in the article for 3 keywords)
  • Please highlight the different kw you use in different colors in each article
  • Include 3 sub-titles – the main keyword should be in one and 2 others in the other 2 sub-titles
  • Main keyword should be mentioned in the 1st sentence and the last sentence
  • The 5 keywords are as follows. One is to be used as the primary keyword and 3 others to be used as secondaries in the article body and sub-titles as mentioned above
OK now we have the content written and wordpress installed on the 5 websites.

Initial configuration – WP Dashboard
I’ll start from the top left hand corner and go through the ones that I make changes on.
  • Dashboard – I will rename the category ‘uncategorized’ with primary kw, if it’s not too long. I’ll add another 1 or 2 categories with a related kw.
  • Links – I remove all the default links. I’ve set up WPDesktop to do this automatically
  • Pages – Privacy, terms of use, about, disclosure and contact go in here. I always noindex and nofollow these pages. I don’t want anybody reverse engineering all my sites using the almost identical ‘legal’ pages. Do a search for this phrase and you’ll find 100s of websites of this guy “We have had a large internet presence for many years and we sure aren’t going anywhere” "We have had a large internet presence for many years and we sure aren’t going anywhere" - Google Search uncovering a ton of niches J. I don’t think you want that. That’s why you want to noindex the legal pages. You want to nofollow them because you don’t want any PR juice leaking into these pages.
  • Appearance –> theme – I’ve been using the thesis theme for a while now. But I’ve used all kinds of free themes to achieve top rankings. Thesis supposedly have this advantage for being ‘SEO friendly’. This is a controversial topic and I’ll stay out of it J
  • Appearance –> widgets – under the footer widget, I put the following code.
<a href=”http://mydomain.com/”>primary keyword</a> | <a href=”http://mydomain.com/secondary kw”>secondary kw</a>
<br>
<a href=”http://mydomain.com/about us”
target=”_blank” rel=”nofollow”>About-US</a> | <a
href=”http://mydomain.com/contact-us”
target=”_blank” rel=”nofollow”>Contact</a> |
<a href=”http://mydomain.com/disclosure”
target=”_blank” rel=”nofollow”>Disclosure</a> |
<a href=”http://mydomain.com/privacy-policy”
target=”_blank” rel=”nofollow”>Privacy Policy</a>
| <a href=”http://mydomain.com/terms-of-use”
target=”_blank” rel=”nofollow”>Terms of Use</a>
| <a href=”http://mydomain.com/sitemap.xml”
target=”_blank”>Sitemap</a>
  1. Note how all the legal pages are nofollowed while the sitemap is not. These will appear in the footer of each page. You definitely want your primary/theme kw here, and may be also one or two secondary kw related to the main theme.
  2. I also use the recent posts widget in the sidebar here. I believe it just makes it easier for search engines to find all the posts and therefore index them. If you have really interesting content, that will also help you retain your visitors for a longer period of time. More on this later (A lot).
  3. Because I use Thesis, I also use something called ‘Thesis OpenHook’ and I do one configuration here. One of the things that I do here is pasting an auto-ping script. I learned and purchased the script through a WSO from Sean Donahoe. Sean’s products are top notch by the way. What this script does is, it pings your site whenever a visitor lands on your site using their IP address. I guess this is a good thing; I include the script in all my sites. Does it make a difference? I really don’t know! Recently I bought this WSO from Konrad Braun http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...autopilot.html and it does auto-pinging and more. I found this free plugin with a Google search that seems to do a similar thing. Feel free to check it out Free Pinger Plugin for Wordpress – Let visitors ping for you
  • The next section is plugins. I believe this is where the power of wordpress comes in to play. I use a bunch of free plugins and a couple of paid plugins. Here they are
Free ones Go to pingler.com and copy the ping directory URLs they useI'm not going to tell you why I use each of them, their description pages will say what they are used for.

Paid ones
  1. SEOPressor UNLIMITED – SEOPressor automatically optimizes your on-page SEO by bolding, italizing and underlining your main keyword. It also optimize title and image tags. You can use the Suggestion Feature to tweak your content for high search engine ranking. Version 4.0 | By Daniel Tan
  2. Ping Crawler Turbo – Based on Ping Crawl 2 by Josh Team and Eli and Josh Phipps and LinkCurl fork from “Guerilla Blog Hacks” with Minor tweaks for speed, efficiency and security by Sean Donahoe – Every time you make a post on your blog it grabs similar posts from other blogs that allow pingbacks using the post tags. It then links to them at the bottom of the post as similar posts. It then executes the pingback on all the posts. You can specify how many posts to do per tag and that many will be done for each tag you use in your posts. Typically it has about an 80% successrate with each pingback and they are legit so the ones that fall into moderation tend to get approved. This creates quite a few deep links for each blog post you make and through time really helps with your link building. Especially for new blogs. Version 1.1 | By Sean Donahoe | Visit plugin site
  3. Trackback Feed - Indexing Plugin and Trackback Feed Plugin I'll tell you what I use this for in the Off Page SEO section. You might even be able to figure it out yourself.
  • Under settings --> General: I always put the WordPress address (URL) and Site address (URL) both as http://mysite.com This is the non WWW. Format. I always use this format. You should pick one of them and stick to it in all your link building campaigns. It is said that building links to the www. Format and non-www format will divide the link juice and thus the benefits.
  • Under settings --> Email: I say myname@mysite.com and create that email in the cpanel and forward it to my personal email address. That way, should someone contact this address at all, it will be forwarded to my email.
  • Under settings --> Discussion: I leave the comments on. THIS IS CRUCIAL. But I say comments will be moderated by admin. So they are manually approved. MORE on this later.
  • Under settings --> Privacy: I select the option "I would like to block search engines, but allow normal visitors". I leave it that way until the content is posted. I don’t want Google to see an incomplete site – first impressions matter . I have setup WPDesktop to do this automatically during WP installation.
  • Under settings --> Permalinks: I do /%postname% or /%postname%/ - pick one and always use that one to build link. Just like the www vs non-www that I mentioned earlier
Adding Content
OK! The site configurations are done! Now we need to add the content. I’m going to use the following terms from now onwards.
  • Theme kw – the main kw the site targets
  • Primary kw – the 1ry (primary) kw of any given post
  • Secondary kw – the LSI or other related kw for a given post
Let’s take an example and I’m going to stick with this hypothetical example for the rest of the post.

If the kw that I’m going after is kids karaoke machines, that’s my theme kw. 3 related kw would be kids karaoke machine reviews, karaoke machines for kids and best kids karaoke machines. Assuming this is a website with 4 posts, I would have 1 post optimized for each of the kws.

Let’s say my first post is going to be on my theme kw. For that post, the 1ry kw as well as the theme kw is “kids karaoke machines”. For the same post, “kids karaoke machine reviews”, “karaoke machines for kids” and “best kids karaoke machines” would be 2ry kw.


Let’s say my 2nd post is going to be on “karaoke machines for kids”. Then my 1ry kw is “karaoke machines for kids”, theme kw is always “kids karaoke machines” and 2ry kw are “kids karaoke machine reviews” and “best kids karaoke machines”. You should add more LSI kw from WonderWheel etc. even if you are not going to use them as 1ry kw on any of the posts.
http://kwbrowse.com/ used to be a good tool to identify these LSI kw, but it's not functional anymore. If anybody knows another resource, please feel free to share.

OK hope that makes sense. Now let’s start adding content to the website, 1 post after the other. Here is what I do for each post.
  • Title tag: 1ry kw – some phrase theme kw – (NOTE: Title Case)
e.g. Karaoke Machines for Kids – All about Kids Karaoke Machines
  • URL/Permalink – There are 2 options. One is to leave the default URL as is, which in this case will be http://mydomain.com/karaoke-machines-for-kids-all-about-kids karaoke-machines/. The other option is to manually edit it so that only the 1ry kw remains like http://mydomain.com/karaoke-machines-for-kids. I’ve tried both; however, I don’t have enough evidence to say one is better than the other. It’s up to you, I just feel the latter may look too spammy if you do that to all pages of your site.
  1. Exceptions to the above rule is the post made for the theme kw
  2. Here I discuss two options for my title for the post on the theme kw – “Kids Karaoke Machines – Best Kids Karaoke Machine Reviews”. However, I have also seen titles like “theme keyword | theme keyword” and they still rank. Others use only “theme keyword” in their title so that it’s 100% focused. But in my opinion, when you resort to the last 2 options, you’re not talking to the searcher (you're talking only to the SEs) and you’re also limiting yourself. We’re probably not going to be able to rank all 4 pages in this site. We’re probably only going to be able to rank the post with the theme kw. If you notice, inside my title, I have 3 out of the 4 kw we targeted with this website. Depending on what the competition may be for those other kw, the above post has the potential to get top rankings for all those 3 kw. That would be nice wouldn’t it? I have a couple of sites like this where the post optimized for the theme kw (I’m going to call this post the STICKY POST from now onwads) ranks #1-3 for various kw. Of course, if the competition is harsh for these 2ry kw, they won't rank (like the case with majority of my sites). In the above example, for the kw that is not in the title, I will make sure that it’s in the description tag.
  3. Second option would be something like “Best Kids Karaoke Machines. Reviews of Karaoke Machines for Kids” – Here I’m sacrificing a little bit of kw prominence to squeeze in that 4th kw also. IMPORTANT – you’ll learn a lot from this exercise. Do Google searches for ‘keyword prominence’ and ‘keyword proximity’. Use that knowledge to write your title and description tags.
  4. IMPORTANT – you’ll learn a lot from this exercise as well. Do Google searches for wedding favors, unique wedding favors, bridal shower favors and unique bridal favors – you’ll see what I mean. This is StomperNet CEO Brad Fallon’s site. See how he links to it from his blog Wedding Favors and Accessories. Look at all the links at the bottom of this page. Search Google for those phrases, see what you get. Learn from it, you can probably spend a good hour learning stuff. Pay attention to the title tag, the description tag and the URL of the top ranking 3-5 sites and you’ll get a feel about how you should word these 3 components of your site. Just remember that you and I are not Brad Fallon and that we cannot target multiple keywords. If you are just starting out, trying to rank your site for multiple kw can hurt you more than it can help. So for now, do the above exercise, but focus on ranking one kw.
  5. Got carried away a little bit sorry! What about the URL for the sticky post? Again, I have no concrete answer. But I’ve had success both ways. Here’s what I’d do. If I had the EMD which in this case would be Kids Karaoke Machines - Do Your Christmas Shopping Here!, I would make the url of the sticky post http://kidskaraokemachines.com/kids-...chines-reviews/. I am aware that ‘machines reviews’ is not grammatically correct, but I’m doing it so that I get ranked for kids karaoke machine reviews as well as kids karaoke machines.
  6. However, if I did not have the EMD I would go for this. kidskaraokemachinesreviews.com. Again I don’t have concrete evidence to say one is better than the other. By now, you’ve seen many examples and I hope you went to Google and did dozens of additional searches and are able to make a decision about how you want to go about with your site.
  • Description tag – this HAS TO BE unique for each post. Don’t be lazy. Write different ones for each post. Use 1ry kw once and theme kw once. If possible, also use singular and plural versions. If it’s the sticky post, make extra effort to talk to the human searcher (not the SE). Have a ‘Call For Action’ (visit us, click here); give a benefit of your site (cheapest price, independent review, free shipping, free download etc.). Do something to make him click through to your website over the ones that are above/below you. Make it attractive.
  • Body of the postI have already talked about the kw density, distribution of kw, LSI etc. I’ll talk about the post body under the following aspects: subheadings (H tags); hyperlinks; text decoration; images; tags/meta tags; sticky post; scheduling posts
    • Subheadings
      • 1 heading at the top with H1 tags – should contain/or start with the 1ry kw e.g. Kids Karaoke Machine Reviews – Different types of Kids Karaoke Machines available
      • 1 H2 heading with theme kw
      • 1-2 H2/H3 headings with 1ry/2ry kw
    • Hyperlinks
§ One in the first sentence with the 1ry kw pointing to the same post
§ One with the theme kw pointing to the same post (the way I see it, you’re telling Google “this post is about the 1ry kw, but it is also about the theme kw”)
§ One with the theme kw pointing to the main domain/homepage and/or different post (again you’re telling Google “that post is about the 2ry kw, but it is also about the theme kw”)
§ One with a 2ry kw pointing to the relevant post
§ This way at least 3-4 posts will have an outgoing link and an incoming link with the anchor text as ‘theme kw’
o Text decoration – make the 1ry kw bold once; and italicized or underlined once
o Images
§ I download royalty free images from the web (morgueFile free photos for creatives by creatives and stock.xchng - the leading free stock photography site are good examples) or purchase them from stock image sites and name them with 1ry kw e.g. kids-karaoke-machine-reviews.jpg
§ Then I insert the relevant image to each post and put the 1ry kw as the ALT tag
o Tags/Meta tags
§ I use 2 – one is the 1ry kw and the 2nd is the theme kw – again, I think this tells Google that the whole theme is about our theme kw. However, the general belief is that SEs nowadays don’t give a lot of significance to these tags. But you’re not losing anything by doing this. Some people like to add more tags thinking you will rank for all those kw but another school of thought is that you should keep them focused.
o Sticky post – I set the post optimized for the theme kw as the sticky post. You can do this under Publish --> Visibility --> Public --> Stick the post to the front page
o Scheduling posts - I schedule the 5 posts to be posted at like day 1, day 2, day 6, day 12, and day 21 or something. I just do whatever comes to my mind at that time, no concrete rules here.

Added later - points forgotten to include in the original post
  • I nofollow the link to my RSS/subscribe on the homepage. Thesis gives an option in its dashboard for you to nofollow this. There may be plugins to do this for generic WP themes or you can manually add the rel="nofollow" attribute to the code if you can find the place.

Outgoing links – This is important
  • A kw relevant page doesn’t only get links from other relevant websites but also link out to other relevant websites
  • So link out to authority sites/pages relevant to your theme – Wikipedia, About.com, CNN etc.
  • I usually have this in my footer and make sure I no follow them
  • Some people also have a separate page listing these relevant pages
o If you haven’t written different meta descriptions for each post, this is the time to do it.
o I check everything again and if everything looks good, I then go to Settings à Privacy settings and ‘unblock the search engines’.
o Affiliate links – I only add my affy links after the SEs have indexed my sites. I would also go and do my product review or whatever also after that.

Important note:

A lot of people talk about kw research, On Page SEO and Off Page SEO. But not many address the ‘social interactions’ that should take place inside your site. Now the internet is all about interaction right? And you should facilitate this interaction inside your website also by all means. Google recognizes this using bounce rate and retention rate (as far as I know).

Bounce rate gives an idea about how many pages of your site does the typical visitor look at before he/she leaves it? The more the better. But instead, what we do is we give an affy link right on the home page and facilitate his/her leaving our site immediately. What I do is I send them to a 2nd page and that’s where my review is. I say something attention grabbing and ask them to go to this page to read a review of the most popular 3 products or whatever.

Retention rate is how long they spend on your site. There are two methods that I employ to increase their retention. One is ask them to watch a video the other is asking them to make a comment. This is why I asked you to leave the commenting open during configuring WP. But you have to moderate them and manually approve the comments so that spammers will be kept out. I also respond to the comments and try and get a 2 way communication going. Here is something a little grey hat that I do to get the ball rolling. To encourage people to make comments, I make a controversial comment to begin with. Then I’d wait a couple of day and see if anybody responds. If nobody does, I go in there with another fake identity and responds to the first comment igniting more fire. Usually after that there are plenty of people making comments and the cycle goes on. Not only does this increase the retention rate but I think Google also recognizes that there is a dialogue going on and rewards it by giving higher rankings. I have a couple of sites at the top that outrank huge relevant authority sites with tons of backlinks etc. etc. The only way I can explain how I beat them is the comments on my site. This is a HUGE on page SEO tip. This might even be the most important SEO tip of this whole thread. How many people will use it? I don’t know! But if you do, you are bound to see the rewards.

Another thing you can do is encourage people to retweet, like on FB and Digg your posts. I have tried a couple of WP plugins for this in the past. I'll be honest here. Nobody retweeted, liked or dugg my content I was heart broken. Don't ask me why. May be it's the kind of crowd my niches attract! I was only left with the Tweets that I did myself. That's part of Off Page SEO, I'll talk about it there (hopefully I'll remember to do so).

It's important that you learn some of these basics, but it is also equally important that you don't spend too much time analyzing things leading to analysis paralysis. At one point, just say enough and just do it.

Day 13 - April 2nd

Off Page SEO

Because this post was getting really long and it was not allowing me to add more smileys etc. (a maximum of 10 per post from what I can understand), I have posted this section on page 3. As of April 2nd 3pm CST, it's not 100% complete, but there's plenty for you to read and digest if you are relatively new to proper SEO.

Enjoy and feel free to ask questions on the thread (and NOT PM me please)

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      gotta have Thanks to your post first then read. Glad to see your sincerity
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    Congrats, any WSO coming out of this post?
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      Originally Posted by TomScarn View Post

      Congrats, any WSO coming out of this post?
      That post IS basically a WSO.
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      • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
        Hello Chucky. I hope all is well. I have a follow to my post on 07-08-2011. I have been getting backlinks to my site and something has occurred that I do not quite understand. One of my posts that was on the 20th page is now in position 2 on the second page. Upon going into SEO Quake I notice that I have approximately 40 backlinks from the same website but I only replied to 3 or 4 posts on that site and backlinked to those only. But today I notice that virtually every blog on their website has sent me a link and several are pr-3 and pr-4. I am not complaining but as I said in my previous post I am so new to this that I really don't understand. Also I obviously want to continue doing the things that I need to be doing. Thanks for responding in advance. Jimmy
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    Chucky, I want to thank you for sharing your story here. I havent watched the videos that you kindly put together yet but I will; I really enjoyed reading what you have written though and can see that you deserve great success and I am certain you will get more of it. Congats and well done, you deserve it.
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      This is going to be my first post on this forum and this will be closley watching your thread, I am in the same situation and hope I can have success like you.

      I cant wait to see your new posts, looks very interesting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
    Good Job Chucky. It looks like you're ready to do a little outsourcing!

    PS...there's not even an outsourcing link in my sig...crazy i know. But seriously it would help you a lot if you're still in school, and slow. I'm pretty slow at getting stuff done myself and outsourcing tasks like SEO, and content has helped a lot.

    Food for thought.
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    wow very inspiring, if you dont mind me asking, how many sites do you have to attain that much income?
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    Nice post.

    I'm thinking about trying to make some money like this, though I am trying offline at the moment.
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    Thanks, bookmarked this for when I get some time great post and very motivating. There are days where I get so close to hitting my first 4 figure day, but I can't really do much work until this semester of school is over as I am studying hard for my MCATs and getting ready for med school admissions. Ok well back I am back to studying now, no more procrastinating on the WF.
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      Hi, nice post and impressive results. Was wondering if you could share some of your backlinking strategy. Do you outsource? Manual or automated? What type of links? How many?

      Would really appreciate if you could give some insight. Thanks!
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    • Inspiring! Like the part about sticking with one system. It's amazing how you start seeing results when you focus all your efforts on one system for a few months rather than jumping around.
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    Hope it doesn't take another 3 months for the next post =P
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Thank you all for your comments. I'll try to answer some of the questions some of you have raised below.

    Originally Posted by TomScarn View Post

    Congrats, any WSO coming out of this post?
    Thanks!
    Let's see how good the content will be once I finish translating everything in my head in to words. If it is good, may be I will launch a WSO in 2013 when I have time. But who knows? By then, I might get a 60 hours/week job and will be even more tight for time than now :confused:

    Originally Posted by Shanti10 View Post

    Chucky, I want to thank you for sharing your story here. I havent watched the videos that you kindly put together yet but I will; I really enjoyed reading what you have written though and can see that you deserve great success and I am certain you will get more of it. Congats and well done, you deserve it.
    Thanks! I'm sure everybody deserves it as much as I do.

    Originally Posted by Victor Edson View Post

    Good Job Chucky. It looks like you're ready to do a little outsourcing!
    Thanks Victor! Actually I do a lot of outsourcing on Odesk (and my wifey ). I have spent over $5000 in outsourcing by now. But the beauty of internet marketing is that I have gotten like a 2000% ROI. What other ethical business model would give you that right? I outsource content writing, backlinking and starting recently even making my websites. I taught a kid in the neighborhood to configure my sites and upload content the way I want. It took a lot of time and patience. He is still not perfect but hopefully he'll get there soon.

    Originally Posted by martfay View Post

    wow very inspiring, if you dont mind me asking, how many sites do you have to attain that much income?
    Hey, thanks!
    As I said, the 20K that I made in November was an exception. My regular income is like 7K/month from IM. Unfortunately, about 5K of this comes from 2 sites, another one makes like 1K and others make like $200 - 300/month. This is not very good. I would rather have 10-20 sites making $300 - 500 each rather than 2 sites making 5K. What I have right now is kinda risky

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    Congrats. Hope my earnings will reach these levels on day.
    Thanks!
    If I were you, I would not HOPE, but be absolutely certain that I will make XX amount of $$ by the year 20XX. Like someone said, make a decision that you will do it. Have absolutely no doubt. Visualize it in your head. Think of it day and night. How will your life be when you achieve it? Write it down. Read it every once in a while. Add more to it with time. Get emotional about it. Get your adrenaline rushing thinking about it. Talk about it. Tell people that you're going to do it by 20XX. Then you have no option but to do it. I have done it; hundreds are doing it everyday; so can you!

    Go to YouTube and search for videos from Tony Robins; Search for MP3s from him; read his stuff on the internet. Buy/borrow his books. I'm sure there are others like Tony Robins that I'm not aware of.

    Good luck!

    Originally Posted by rvdp View Post

    Hi, nice post and impressive results. Was wondering if you could share some of your backlinking strategy. Do you outsource? Manual or automated? What type of links? How many?

    Would really appreciate if you could give some insight. Thanks!
    Thanks! Yes I definitely will in the coming days. But before that, I need to talk about kw research and on page SEO

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    Hope it doesn't take another 3 months for the next post =P
    LOL. Seriously! Me too!
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      ... I do a lot of outsourcing on Odesk (and my wifey ).
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        Originally Posted by TheOnlineEra View Post

        Chucky, just out of curiosity..do I need website with separate domain for separate niche everytime or will an umbrella website with exact matching sub-domains work as well?
        I'm asking this coz with with subdomains I can have exact matching keywords subdomains.
        I'm afraid the answer is yes! YES you do need separate domains unless you are thinking about building a Wikipedia, About.com or Amazon.com. EMD+suffix or prefix+EMD is much better than EM SubDomain.UnrelatedDomainName.com

        Originally Posted by akyyyy View Post

        thanks for the reply and the tip for searching intitle and inanchor. Using MNF what parameters do you suggest using, or what do you use?

        As for content Im just working on a amazon product specific site. How many pages would be enough before allowing google to crawl the site. And what kind of writing do you have for amazon products: reviews, or specifications of the products? Would using any of the review comments from amazon.com be considered duplicate content?

        and one last thing, if my keyword was "amazon kindle 3" would i also get searches for "3 kindle amazon" or any other order of the words? Or should I write my pages using my keyword in different orders? And what about plural form of a keyword, would this be one keyword "blender" and "blenders"???

        im also using Thesis. Do you have any suggestions or tips on how to utilize this theme for its fullest? And do you use the stock look, or use any skins, change backgrould colors etc?

        thank you!!!

        ps: also can you pm me any writers that you recommend or use? I havent had much luck with 3 of them i've used so far.
        I personally would take on any kw if SOC is < 500 or sometimes even 1,000. I go through these in detail in the kw research section and/or videos.

        I go for more like specifications than reviews. 2 posts before Google crawls.

        I don't use customer reviews from Amazon, but I see many #1 ranked sites using them such as E-Reader-Reviews.com that ranks #1 for 'ereader reviews'. But you should also notice that comments don't make up the bulk of the content there. The site provides very good value to the reader.

        No I don't use Kindle 3 Amazon (that doesn't mean you shouldn't; I don't know how that works). As for plural, yes the 2% is plural + singular. But if the kw I'm targeting is singular, 80% would be singular and 20% would be plural.

        Yes I use different skins and background colors to hide from my competitors that it's the same guy that is ranking 5 websites in the same niche. There is a nice free theme I use - search something like Kristerella Cappuccino free thesis theme and you should find it. All the settings in thesis is beyond this thread, sorry no time!

        Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

        Hello Chucky. I really appreciate your response. You are exactly right. I am listed on the sidebar as the most commented author. I am up to 84 and it appears that I have received a link from every post on their site. I made some complementing comments about this company and the next thing I new I was revieving pr 3 and pr 4 links. In my case luck had everything to do with it. I would be interested to know what I should do at this point to keep this going.

        The most important thing that I can tell you is to take all the time you need to deal with the family issues you are having. I am 49 and have 3 kids all college and I can tell you that there will never be anything more important than your family. Its none of our business what your problems are but I can tell you it doesn't matter to me if you ever reply to your posts as long as you and your family are doing well. You seem to be a very generous person and I am sure that good things will come to you. God bless and I hope all goes well. Jimmy
        Hey thanks Jimmy for your kind thoughts! My kids are still 3 and 4 years and already two hands FULL!! I hear it doesn't get any better as they age

        If you can do the investment, the biggest bang for your time and money would be Build My Rank and Social ADR (I see people recommend Social Monkee, haven't used it). These two work very nice even as we speak (post panda 2.2 era as well). You get 10 free posts with BMR, see how that goes, don't do all of them in one day. Do 2 every day and see how it goes.

        Keep us posted!

        Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

        Thank you so much for answering all my questions, Chcky. I'm sorry to hear that things are not going great in your private life, but I'm sure things will get better.

        I know you put your "relevant site" links in the footer, do you do this for each post, or only the footer of certain posts?

        Also, do you put your intra-site links in the footer as well, or are these part of the post?

        Thanks for all of the help you give everyone!
        Hey thanks for your kind comments. Not a big deal, just kids getting sick! And this damn grad school

        Footer is a sitewide thing, generally people don't change the footer from post to post (not sure if you can do that even).

        Intra-site links are 4 kinds - editorial links (in paragraphs); Yet Another Related Post; sidebar 'recent posts' widget; and footer. Recently I've also started inserting links in to images that I post on my site - but then I would link those usually to the homepage/sticky post.


        Originally Posted by akyyyy View Post

        entered the footer that you use (with my domain of course) and it worked... will this way have the same effect that we're looking for?

        if you could also comment on the best way to add Amazon ads. Do you use a plugin (if so which one), or enter the code from amazon affiliate website manually into your webpage.

        thx
        I'm sorry, the part about the footer is not clear, can you explain again pls?

        As for Amazon, I've recently started using EasyAzon (Chris Guthri) but haven't used long enough to recommend yet. But looks very good. I also bought Edwin Bolten's APD plugin, also looks very good especially for doing comparisons. But again, haven't used enough to recommend. Before these, yes, I did manual links

        Originally Posted by John F Kennedy View Post

        Chucky - Your post offers so much in value but what's stands out for me is your passion for success and your refusal to fail, loving your attitude, very well done!

        Tony Robins has too been a great mentor for me as has Les Brown

        "You gotta be hungry"
        WOW!! Look at the caliber of people that comment on my thread JOHN F KENNEDY!!

        Thanks for your comments! I hadn't heard about Les Brown, I watched that video and a couple others and the story about how he became a DJ was really inspiring! Will be following him!

        Thanks John!

        I believe attitude is everything. Once in college, we had this external professor coming and giving a talk about knowledge, skills and attitudes. Although I used the word attitude almost everyday, it was at this lecture that I realized the true meaning of attitude. I always thought it was a matter of knowledge and skills; but NO! The highest level of knowledge and skill is useless without the right attitude (my 2 pennies of course)
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    • Profile picture of the author Ceciliacyprus
      What a brilliant very large! post, thank you so much Chucky. Some of what you say is so resonant with me, really human with our weaknesses all admitted and factored in. Gives such encouragement.
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  • Profile picture of the author markthompson
    Nice recap.

    I agree that I would rather spread out my income over multiple sites. This way you can be covered if for some reason Google turns the screws on one of your sites for whatever reason.

    Personally I have built income through niche blogs and steady content development. If you do the proper keyword research and find buyer ready terms, thats where the money is!

    Good luck this year!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Update:

    I just finished half of the Keyword research module. Don't want to post anything without double checking them (too sleepy now; almost 1am now). Will post the keyword research modules sometime tomorrow CST.

    I thought it would be only fair to show my procedure using both paid tools (I use MNF) and free tools so that even those that are starting out and don't have the paid tools yet are able to get some value out of it.

    Thanks and talk to you guys tomorrow!
    Chucky
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  • Profile picture of the author IMKid
    Congrats to you Chucky and will be definitely following ya!

    Sure I have my own way of skinning my cat, but like to learn yours too. 2 ways to skin a cat is better than 1 way to skin a cat

    I'm curious, are your 'larger sites' (the ones with 30+ pages) informational sites or niche sites?

    Are your sites based on WP or static sites?

    Thanks!
    The KID
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  • Profile picture of the author Suzucheng
    Looking forward to it Chucky!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
    Nice work Chucky, and keep the good info coming!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Rich
      Thanks Chucky,
      Your documentation is helpful as both a yardstick and a road map. It helps a lot to be able to gauge where I am from a more solid perspective than I had before your article.

      Cheers,
      Alex
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  • Profile picture of the author kimberly Aita
    I have never subscribed to a thread but want to make sure I can find this and continue learning more about what you are doing.... now I know how to subscribe..... LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
    Are these sites still making you money each month ?..if so how much ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

      Are these sites still making you money each month ?..if so how much ?
      I believe I answered that question in the videos. I don't make nearly as much on a regular month from these sites. That is because I targeted black Friday products right from the go.

      I was planning on talking about this during on page optimization. But since you raised the point, I'll briefly go through it now.

      The MAJOR trick is this. When it comes to Black Friday, people (including myself) search for 'product name keyword + Black Friday Deals' etc. You want to optimize your pages for the right products and exploit the tons of traffic you're going to get on Black Friday and then throughout the month of Christmas.

      There you go! That's a $100K tip right there!
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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Brownrigg
    Already great advice and information, and it seems you will be adding much more. I'll check back for sure!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    UPDATE March 21st - Day 2
    5 New Videos on keyword research added

    I reveal 2 niches (flip video cameras and kids karaoke machines) and 4 potential keyword phrases. For some of them 'exact match domains' are still available.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Originally Posted by jmasterson View Post

    Chucky thanks for sharing your results! That's inspiring man. And you mentioned a huge point... Not putting all your eggs in 1 basket.

    That's something I need to work on myself. I've got my own product but all my traffic comes from just a few places right now...

    -My YouTube account
    -2 sniper site blogs
    -1 static authority site

    I plan on adding:

    -20 more sniper sites
    -Affiliates
    -Direct banner buys
    -Creating related products

    I think the trick is to work on 1 new traffic method at a time. And once you get it working and have a SYSTEM in place that works, you can outsource as much as possible and move to the next traffic method.

    I'll be following this thread since I'm especially interested in SEO.
    No doubt, the more traffic sources the merrier
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  • Profile picture of the author IMKid
    Whoa! That's a lot of information you've given on kw research. I didn't get to go through all the videos because they were a little on the long side. But will definitely do when I have time tomorrow.

    Also look forward to the 'write up' you're going to do a kw research.
    Thanks again!

    The Kid
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  • Profile picture of the author sane1
    Thanks Chucky, an ode to persistence and simplsity.
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  • Profile picture of the author sane1
    oh and your current basket is fine, just add a few more of those 'to do' sites and things will balance out and grow.
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    • Profile picture of the author inter123
      Video 4 is not playing properly after about 30 seconds and problems with video 5 too.
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  • Profile picture of the author XtremXpert
    The last three videos are not playing properly for me, I do not have problems with other videos.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bribebox
      Originally Posted by XtremXpert View Post

      The last three videos are not playing properly for me, I do not have problems with other videos.
      Yea, same here...
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  • Profile picture of the author j10nnb
    Yes same here, the sound goes off.
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    No sound
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  • Profile picture of the author starrgirrl
    Thank you for sharing your experiences. I'm new to the forum and your story is providing me with a great boost of inspiration. Here's to your continuing success!
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  • Profile picture of the author alco
    Do you find all your Amazin sites are winners? A few of mine are on the first page but make no money even though traffic is going to Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Davy44
    Great post! Hope to read your next post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Thanks everybody for checking the videos out. I'll start checking them ASAP.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Hey guys,

    The last 3 videos seems to have a problem as pointed by many of you. The original videos on my hard disk are fine. But when I upload them on to YouTube, something seems to be going wrong.

    Working on it and hopefully I don't have to shoot the videos again

    Sorry about the inconvenience!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    UPDATE March 23rd - Some of the keyword research videos had problems with sounds, but they are all fixed now. Thanks everybody for pointing it out.

    I brought the videos to a different post because they were taking up a lot of space on the original post. Unfortunately, the last two videos are still not fixed. Will work on that tomorrow!

    I also go through competition analysis etc. I also show why I don't want to target a particular keyword (flip video cameras) while I WANT to target the other keywords.

    Video 1 - Keyword research using MNF part 1
    Video 2 - Keyword research using MNF part 2
    Video 3 - Selection of the right domain name
    Video 4 - Keyword research without paid tools part 1
    Video 5 - Keyword research without paid tools part 2
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  • Profile picture of the author IMKid
    Hi Chucky,

    As you can see, I've been following your thread religiously! I don't leave a lot of comments, but I do read WF every now and again. The keyword research component you have added is outstanding to say the least.

    I don't think I have seen anybody addressing keyword research in such depth. The examples that you show are also very good. I knew about the dog training site, but others are new to me.

    I have one question. You say you look at keyword density on the competitors. What's the exact keyword density you look for or what's the density you would use in your sites?

    Wishing you all the best in 2011,
    The KIDO
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  • Profile picture of the author Nail Yener
    Chucky, congratulations on your success and thanks for sharing your story with us.
    Such threads are really valuable. You have outlined a great plan to make money
    online with different sources and you are asking nothing in return. This is not
    something we come across frequently.
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  • Profile picture of the author tayuyaa
    Hi Chucky,

    Congrats on your success, I just have some questions to ask you. You said that you're sites are similar to sniper sites with 4-5 posts on them, but only 2 of them bring you the most of your income, are these two sites 4-5 posts too or are they the bigger ones?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author marjames
    Oh no! I've never been into this thread before.. I supposed to open the CPA section and it got me here. I got it lost after few readings and checked the CPA section it wasn't there. My laptop history saved me!

    I rested IM for a while since I got frustrated and am now going to try it again. And this got me. A very valuable information! I want to thank you for this. I'm starting again to learn. And yes, having a positive mindset can bring Success! And definitely, im following you now!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Originally Posted by IMKid View Post

    I'm curious, are your 'larger sites' (the ones with 30+ pages) informational sites or niche sites?

    Are your sites based on WP or static sites?

    Thanks!
    The KID
    hmmm... niche or information? The way I see it, a niche site essentially has information right? I mean they are definitely not like wikipedia. The majority of pages are meant to be search engine fodder and don't necessarily have affiliate links. All pages essentially target the same product.

    Let's take an example. I'm not in this specific niche yet, but I'm in a similar one. Let's say I want to promote the Xbox Kinect. I will have a sticky post about the Xbox Kinect on my home page and then I will have other pages talking about Xbox360, Kinect and everything that is related to it.

    However, I will not have 'information' about Nintendo Wii or Sony PSP on this site.

    Is that what you mean?

    All but my first site are WP based.

    Originally Posted by alco View Post

    Do you find all your Amazin sites are winners? A few of mine are on the first page but make no money even though traffic is going to Amazon.
    I just logged in to my Amazon account to try and give you some statistics. I pulled up the "Tracking ID Summary for March 22nd". I usually have one tracking ID per site. It says "Displaying only the 9 of your 37 tracking IDs that have clicks" which means I probably have 37 websites promoting Amazon products (had no idea I had so many).

    The 9 sites have had 53 clicks and 2 orders (4% conversion rate - not bad), and 3 items shipped (2 orders and 3 shipments - probably because a previous order got shipped y'day) sold $556.01 worth of stuff and earned $36.15 in commissions.

    Hope that answers your question. But I do want you to understand that only 9 out of the 37 sites have clicks simply because I have done nothing more than building those other websites. No off page SEO has been done. Had I done my usual optimization on all those sites, then I would have expected at least 20 of them to have had clicks instead of just 9.

    The fact that they don't make money - check out the section I have added on 'Commercial Intent'. Are you in the right market? Are you targeting buying kw?

    Originally Posted by IMKid View Post

    Hi Chucky,

    I don't think I have seen anybody addressing keyword research in such depth. The examples that you show are also very good. I knew about the dog training site, but others are new to me.

    I have one question. You say you look at keyword density on the competitors. What's the exact keyword density you look for or what's the density you would use in your sites?

    Wishing you all the best in 2011,
    The KIDO
    Thank you Kido! Appreciate your comments.

    No I don't calculate their keyword density. I do a ctrl-F on firefox and search for the kw. Then I press 'highlight all'. Then I just get a rough idea about where/how many times the kw is used.

    About my sites, I will address them when I talk about on page SEO

    That's it for now guys, will answer other questions tonight! Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author IMKid
    Thanks Chucky! Makes sense, will wait till you do your on page SEO write up for the rest.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
      Hi Chucky,


      I have a few ? for you..so when you do keyword research you check to see if the keyword has less than "100,000" and 300 links or less correct ?

      Also do you check the anchor text links to the site that is ranking # 1 ?
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

        Hi Chucky,


        I have a few ? for you..so when you do keyword research you check to see if the keyword has less than "100,000" and 300 links or less correct ?

        Also do you check the anchor text links to the site that is ranking # 1 ?
        I did that at the beginning, not anymore. One of the kw I'm targeting with my newer websites has an phrase count of 8,550,000 and I'm on page 4 already. Been there about 4 months, progress is really slow. But that's not a 5 page site, it's larger has spent a lot of money on it and haven't earned me a single penny yet. That's why I say, if you're starting out stick to those recommendations so that you're not faced with such a situation. Of course if you have faith in yourself you're welcome to try such kw.

        Since so many beginners give up (I'm told) if they don't get a page 1 ranking within a short period, I personally think that if you stick to those or even less competition, you have maximal chances of reaching the top and boosting your confidence.

        Once you get that confidence (and $ to put back in the business), that's when you go for kw with higher competition.

        I do check the anchor text links to my competitors ultimately, but not at this initial stage. Whether they're building links using 1 anchor text or multiple anchor text is irrelevant to me. People like Jeremy Kelsall and Terry Kyle believe linking with more than one anchor text (if it is a sniper site that you want to rank with for 1 kw only) is not necessary. I have listened to webinar by Terry Kyle and Tom Woods where they say building links with a 2nd anchor text brought down their rankings for the primary kw. I have also personally experienced this, but I don't know if it simply coincided with
        my competitors building links for their sites and other factors.

        I don't have sites that rank #1 for multiple kw. When I look at Google analytics, I see that I have gotten traffic from various long tail kw, but these aren't high traffic ones or ones that I targeted.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
          I did that at the beginning, not anymore. One of the kw I'm targeting with my newer websites has an phrase count of 8,550,000 and I'm on page 4 already. Been there about 4 months, progress is really slow. But that's not a 5 page site, it's larger has spent a lot of money on it and haven't earned me a single penny yet. That's why I say, if you're starting out stick to those recommendations so that you're not faced with such a situation. Of course if you have faith in yourself you're welcome to try such kw.

          Thanks Chucky,

          Hey would mind sharing how you did this ?

          Like what did the competition look like for this keyword when you started...and how did you judge and decide on this keyword ?

          What did you do for backlinking ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mariefurni
      it's very interesting i follow you!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author L41db4ck
      Originally Posted by Chucky

      Under settings --> Permalinks: I do /%postname% or /%postname%/ - pick one and always use that one to build link. Just like the www vs non-www that I mentioned earlier


      DOH! Really??? Then I've been doing it wrong, can anyone confirm that this makes any difference? :confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author nulen
      thanks for sharing your story m8.
      very important information here, its great for a newbie like me .
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    • Profile picture of the author Kitte
      Great info. Five years ago I built my page and hoped to do some money but it was waste of time. I still have the domain, I 'll do it again.

      I've learned more here than from all kind of ebooks I've bought under the last five years. Most of them were pure rubbish.

      Thanks - I love this forum
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      • Profile picture of the author seoninjashell
        Hey Chucky I am new to the IM business so i would like to ask you some questions if you don't mind, more like me telling you what im going to do and you approving or not :p

        1. Find a product that i think has a reasonable title, content and price.
        Code:
        Best  Vegan Cookbook (click bank)
        2. Do some keyword research and then find if i can beat it. Find some secondary kw's (didnt do for this example).
        Code:
        vegan breakfest cookbook
        vegan dessert cookbook
        vegan cookbooks
        vegan cookbooks recipies
        3. Create a site with the keywords listed.

        Code:
        ex. vegan-cook-bookdot com
        ex. vegan-cookbooks-recipiesdot com
        ex. vegancookbooksrecipiesdot com
        4. Then i create a wordpress with an amazing theme that is clean and simple. Use the plugins that you mention, create high quality content and use unique tags for each post. Follow your structure (below)

        Code:
          
            * The article should have at least 500 words
            * Main keyword has to be mentioned at a density of 2% (10 times per 500 words)
            * 3 other keywords (secondary kw) have to be mentioned at least twice in the whole article (each kw twice in the article for 3 keywords)
            * Please highlight the different kw you use in different colors in each article
            * Include 3 sub-titles - the main keyword should be in one and 2 others in the other 2 sub-titles
            * Main keyword should be mentioned in the 1st sentence and the last sentence
            * The 5 keywords are as follows. One is to be used as the primary keyword and 3 others to be used as secondaries in the article body and sub-titles as mentioned above
        and then apply some other methods of posting.

        5. Post some of my own hand written articles to article sites like article base (high quality content only for this site), and other article sites for a tiny bit lower quality.

        6. Look for my keywords online and then post in the blogs/article sites with 3 way backlinking with a secondary domain as the re-director.

        Code:
        ex.
        first blog has anchored link to second blog.
        second blog has anchored link to third blog.
        third blog contains (50% of the time anchored) to secondarysite dot com/index472723.htm that redirects to my site (not direct page, maybe a specific post).
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        Hopefully you can give me some tips and advice. Thank you!
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by jzorro View Post

          Hi Chucky!

          Besides About Us, Contact, Disclosure, Privacy Policy, Terms of Use and Sitemap, do have any other page (not posts...) with content? Do you optimize any page for a given keyword?
          I sometimes have an outgoing links page and a YouTube videos page. Don't ask me why I selected a page instead of post But I haven't done this with my more recent sites. I just put the outgoing links in the footer.

          As far as actual content goes, I've once or twice set a 'page' optimized for the theme kw and set that on the homepage instead of a post. But then the post thing was so much easier and I stuck with it. Don't have enough statistics to tell you if one is better than the other.

          Originally Posted by Kitte View Post


          I've learned more here than from all kind of ebooks I've bought under the last five years. Most of them were pure rubbish.
          Thans Kitte, comments like yours make my effort worthwhile

          Originally Posted by seoninjashell View Post


          5. Post some of my own hand written articles to article sites like article base (high quality content only for this site), and other article sites for a tiny bit lower quality.

          6. Look for my keywords online and then post in the blogs/article sites with 3 way backlinking with a secondary domain as the re-director.

          Code:
          ex.
          first blog has anchored link to second blog.
          second blog has anchored link to third blog.
          third blog contains (50% of the time anchored) to secondarysite dot com/index472723.htm that redirects to my site (not direct page, maybe a specific post).
          --------

          Hopefully you can give me some tips and advice. Thank you!
          1,2,3,4 looks good.

          5. I would submit my premium content to EzineArticles.com and NOT ArticlesBase. The latter accepts relatively low value content compared to EzineArticles.com. Besides, the link you get from ArticlesBase is a no follow.

          6. I'm sorry, this is not clear to me.

          I will be covering more than that for off page SEO. So if you can be patient for another week at most, you'll get a better idea about link building.
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            • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
              Originally Posted by vizicore View Post

              I just did a search on my main keyword and I have now dropped to page 4. I'm a little upset and then i did a search for my "site:mydomain.com" to see that the only thing different is they indexed ONE of my tags. Could this be the reason i dropped? Should i exclude my tags from my sitemap? How exactly do i do that? How about categories too...
              I think we all, including Chucky, need some more information about the your situation in order to help.

              Did you look at your competition on Page 1?
              What are they doing to earn their placement on page 1. Look at their page SEO and their back links.

              List some of this information and I'm sure we all could help you out.

              Chucky hasn't covered off page seo yet, however backlinks are currently an essential part of SEO marketing no matter how good your on page is when there is competition involved. Chucky has noted that proper on page SEO can beat highly backlinked competition IF the competition has crappy on page SEO. We haven't seen how Chucky does off page seo yet, but I'm assuming backlinks of some sort do play a roll.
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            • Profile picture of the author Chucky
              Originally Posted by vizicore View Post

              I just did a search on my main keyword and I have now dropped to page 4. I'm a little upset and then i did a search for my "site:mydomain.com" to see that the only thing different is they indexed ONE of my tags. Could this be the reason i dropped? Should i exclude my tags from my sitemap? How exactly do i do that? How about categories too...
              Hey,

              This is the one for which you had #15 right? And now it's down to #30 something? With brand new sites, this is not uncommon. Google may have given your site a higher ranking based on the freshness of the content and/or backlinks. But as this freshness becomes 'stale', the site goes back to its 'natural' position. This may be what you're seeing here.

              I honestly don't know how big of a role the tag played. Thesis gives the option of noindexing tag pages. There might be plugins that do the same job. Some people say duplicate tag pages (from different posts) can act as duplicate content. This is another reason why I use few tags and keep them focused.

              Anyways, there is an easy way to find out if the tag really was the culprit. Google simply is an algorithm. If you remove that tag and get Google to cache it again, the site should come back up; provided the culprit was the tag.

              There is also something called the Google 'minus 20' -30 penalty' etc. If you are down from 15 to exactly 35, it could be one of those too. There are different reasons why you would get specific penalties and I'm not well versed with them. May be you can do some research and share with us

              Just keep building links and strengthening links naturally and at an increasing pace.

              Good luck!
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                • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
                  Originally Posted by vizicore View Post

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                  [EDIT AGAIN] I have absolutely no idea whats going on.... Now I'm appear as #7... well the last result on the first page for my main keyword. This is much better.. but I don't understand at all what I did... IF i did anything to effect it haha.
                  Sounds like the google dance to me... I'm not sure what goes on during that time or what to do, but it sounds like it to me...
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                • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                  Originally Posted by vizicore View Post

                  Well... Only four of my pages have been indexed so far but as for my competitors..

                  If i'm failing to communicate I apologize. I'm trying to express myself as best I can but it's difficult.

                  Thanks for the help

                  [EDIT] Fortunately im #1 and #2 on my second keyword... "product name "prices""

                  [EDIT AGAIN] I have absolutely no idea whats going on.... Now I'm appear as #7... well the last result on the first page for my main keyword. This is much better.. but I don't understand at all what I did... IF i did anything to effect it haha.
                  I wonder if it's the length/uniqueness of content that is preventing them from getting indexed.

                  No worries, ask whatever you want - but I am not able to answer every question because I don't know a ton of things, like the next point I'm about to make.

                  May be it's possible to correct your permalinks and do a 301 redirect so that you still get the juice from the links you already made. But you will have to read up on this, I have never had to do it.

                  It could be the dance as ddBoom says. Did you also try to clear cookies/browser cache and redo the search? Also sign out of your gmail? I sometimes see that Google gives me a 'personalized' search based on what it judges to be my personal preferences.
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                  • Profile picture of the author tayuyaa
                    Thanks chucky, what you've added it's really great value
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            • Profile picture of the author TheOnlineEra
              Originally Posted by vizicore View Post

              I just did a search on my main keyword and I have now dropped to page 4. I'm a little upset and then i did a search for my "site:mydomain.com" to see that the only thing different is they indexed ONE of my tags. Could this be the reason i dropped? Should i exclude my tags from my sitemap? How exactly do i do that? How about categories too...
              This is called Google dance. With relative new website this happens most of the time. Google takes some time to settle the ranking of a new website. After couple of weeks later, the ranking will be consistent or decreasing unless you start doing your SEO and link building.
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      • Profile picture of the author mydestiny
        Originally Posted by Kitte View Post

        Great info. Five years ago I built my page and hoped to do some money but it was waste of time. I still have the domain, I 'll do it again.

        I've learned more here than from all kind of ebooks I've bought under the last five years. Most of them were pure rubbish.

        Thanks - I love this forum
        Your are absolutely correct, he has put lots of efforts and valuable info esp for us newbies so that we will not even need to buy any SEO stuff and this will of course disturbe a lot of folks who are selling such info, I am glad he didn't post he is receiving some PMs telling him not to give too much of it for free, lol.
        Thank you so much man. This is a good forum and your sweet heart is adding more value to it. Wishing you all success you deserve,
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by jamestrony View Post

          I just skim through it and have seen a lot I did not know.Five years ago, I created my page and hope to do some money, but it is a waste of time. Also one should not rely on some sites but all the income, but only scattered traffic from Google, I learned a hard lesson this year.
          some kind of auto forum poster spam tool that takes sentences/paragraphs from the same thread/forum, does a auto word/phrase replacement (may be even translation to another language and back to English) and makes a post! Smart software!

          I would be interested in finding out what this spam tool is
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          • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
            Yo Chucky! This thread is absolute brilliant. Thanks for taking the time to help a bunch of peeps out.
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            • Profile picture of the author Chucky
              Originally Posted by co2 View Post

              Yo Chucky! This thread is absolute brilliant. Thanks for taking the time to help a bunch of peeps out.
              My pleasure! You're most welcome.

              I still haven't been able to complete all the stuff I wanted to and my 30 day Camtasia trial is running out in a couple of days
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              • Profile picture of the author Young Samurai
                Chucky,

                I can't believe this thread.

                It is incredible, both in terms of the volume and the quality of the information provided.

                And it's free!! I've paid good money for guides which didn't contain the half of what you have given away here.

                I've especially picked up on the on-page seo stuff and specifically the number of links to the post and domain. You have at least 2 more than I would ever have considered. Interesting.

                And the experience you related about a site which disappeared from the serps is very timely for me as I've a $10/day Amazon site which has plummeted from having about a dozen page 1 rankings to all those kw terms now being on pages 50-60 So, content and high quality links are what the doctors ordered.

                Thanks,
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                • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                  Originally Posted by Young Samurai View Post

                  Chucky,

                  I can't believe this thread.

                  It is incredible, both in terms of the volume and the quality of the information provided.

                  And it's free!! I've paid good money for guides which didn't contain the half of what you have given away here.

                  I've especially picked up on the on-page seo stuff and specifically the number of links to the post and domain. You have at least 2 more than I would ever have considered. Interesting.

                  And the experience you related about a site which disappeared from the serps is very timely for me as I've a $10/day Amazon site which has plummeted from having about a dozen page 1 rankings to all those kw terms now being on pages 50-60 So, content and high quality links are what the doctors ordered.

                  Thanks,
                  Thanks young Samurai!

                  As for the outgoing links from a post, I don't think 3 to 4 is too many. Actually, there is one more that I add at the end to the top of each post, I think I didn't mention that yet. That link at the very top is important. There is something called first link priority (Dan Thies/Leslie Rhodie concept). I will talk about it in the next section.

                  As for your site, I'm sorry to hear about it. Did it have auto-generated content? Some kind of auto posting plugin? Also going down by exactly 50-60 positions instead of disappearing sounds like a penalty... may be for a on page change you did?

                  So many people/sites affected by this farmer update seems like!
                  Good luck!
                  Chucky
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    • Profile picture of the author NOSLEEPATALL
      Very interesting read for me and I am going to re-read it again tomorrow so it sinks in. Only thing I make money from is my Youtube account so it is all Adsence. However I make in the neighborhood of $80 to $90 a month so I was shocked how little you are making?

      However it shows me I should get my butt in gear and start doing something!
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      • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
        I hope you are not talking about Chucky, he makes 4 figures, that means THOUSANDS a day. That beats your $80-90 a month lol.

        Thank you Chucky, I hate the Google dance to be honest with you. It makes me nervous. Last night my 1st site disappear in Google at 11th place but now it's back.

        And yes I did installed the search terms tagging 2 plugin. How do you config it? Do I have to put it in as a widget?

        Yea I don't blast my site with thousands of link, or even hundreds. I build like 20-30 a week slowly. I have learned my lesson. If you really for your site to disappear for a WHILE, then you should blast the hell out of it, especially for new sites. lol.
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

          I hope you are not talking about Chucky, he makes 4 figures, that means THOUSANDS a day. That beats your $80-90 a month lol.

          Thank you Chucky, I hate the Google dance to be honest with you. It makes me nervous. Last night my 1st site disappear in Google at 11th place but now it's back.

          And yes I did installed the search terms tagging 2 plugin. How do you config it? Do I have to put it in as a widget?

          Yea I don't blast my site with thousands of link, or even hundreds. I build like 20-30 a week slowly. I have learned my lesson. If you really for your site to disappear for a WHILE, then you should blast the hell out of it, especially for new sites. lol.
          No I DO NOT make THOUSANDS every day. That was just during thanksgiving/black Friday. I only make 3 figures on a regular day . I think NO SLEEP AT ALL was joking

          Search Terms Tagging 2 Plugin - You upload it as a plugin (not a widget). Then I set it to pull about 30 kw (the default may be 10 if I remember right). I also set it to hyperlink to the posts and to have them at the end of the post. I don't let it look like a bulleted list. So I take out <li>, </li> whatever and make sure there is a comma between the search posts (leave the first 3 boxes blank and have a comma in the last box - hope you can find that).

          I think those are the only modifications that I do, I leave everything else the default way. Hope that helps, if not don't hesitate to ask again!
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        • Profile picture of the author Pinkysoll
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          Hi,
          please how do you check where site is ranked on google? And whether it's even ranked at all?
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          • Profile picture of the author Chucky
            Originally Posted by Pinkysoll View Post

            Hi,
            please how do you check where site is ranked on google? And whether it's even ranked at all?
            Rank Tracker - Track Your Search Engine Rankings Easily! was free the last time I checked. If not, there is another free option Rankchecker.net SEO Tool but has limitations compared to the former.

            Then there are also a bunch of other paid tools which you can easily do without!
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            • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
              If you want to do a quick search. I use this: Pagerank checker :Google SERPs checker: results many countries Google Pagerank SERPs index results web SEO tools

              It shows you where you are on the top 1000 on google, sometimes you will find more than 1 results for the same keyword.

              I am here to hijack Chucky's thread with my update again

              I have finished with my first 2 sites. Just started setting up my 3rd.

              My 1st site is ranked from 11th to 7th as of today.
              My 2nd site is ranked from 48th to 35th as of today.

              I built my site based on 95% of the stuff Chucky taught us so far and I used only SEnuke to help me rank faster on Google and build backlinks.
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              • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

                If you want to do a quick search. I use this: Pagerank checker :Google SERPs checker: results many countries Google Pagerank SERPs index results web SEO tools

                It shows you where you are on the top 1000 on google, sometimes you will find more than 1 results for the same keyword.

                I am here to hijack Chucky's thread with my update again
                I like this kind of hijacking

                Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

                I have finished with my first 2 sites. Just started setting up my 3rd.

                My 1st site is ranked from 11th to 7th as of today.
                My 2nd site is ranked from 48th to 35th as of today.

                I built my site based on 95% of the stuff Chucky taught us so far and I used only SEnuke to help me rank faster on Google and build backlinks.
                Congratulations! You're on a role baby!

                Just make sure your keywords are buying keywords, with commercial intent, even if you have to spend a full week to determine that.

                I have wasted 2 sets of websites (one with 4 and the other with 3 sites) because I wasn't thinking about commercial intent. Don't let that happen to you!

                All the best and keep hijacking (this thread and other people's websites on page 1)!
                Chucky
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    • Profile picture of the author Tim_Hawksworth
      Hi Chucky,

      Since you are putting up 5 posts - sometimes 20.

      Couldn't all this be done easier with a mini-site rather than
      a wp blog.

      The blog seems a bit overkill for such a small amount of posts.


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    • Profile picture of the author zoeguy
      Originally Posted by zajacik View Post

      This whole thread ought to be a WSO and it should be called WSO's Finest.
      Originally Posted by TomScarn View Post

      any WSO coming out of this post?
      Originally Posted by Andy Yusuf View Post

      i don't need buy any WSO. just read this whole thread...
      Guys, this whole thread IS a WSO! Remember what the "S" stands for? If this thread doesn't qualify as special, I don't know what in tarnation would. What makes this thread standout above the vast majority of others is that not only is it FREE but like jmorris said, the VALUE is amazing and HUGE! As for myself and I am sure countless others here, I have NO income NO job, NO money for buying useless wso's that make money only for the sellers.

      Originally Posted by jmorris18 View Post

      Friends, it does not get any better than this...
      I feel very blessed to be a part of this forum. We have some amazing people to learn from and Chucky is one of many that go above and beyond to help each and everyone of us. Jason
      Well said, Chucky has raised the bar for WSO standards...

      One of the most awesome aspects for me here, is all of the people who are taking ACTION with this & posting their results. How many wso's have you seen where that took place? I don't remember ONE and I have been here for a while.

      Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

      Time to give back... I thought it would be terribly wrong if I didn’t give anything back to the forum.
      Talk about over delivering, DOOOOOOOD...

      Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

      Let's see how good the content will be... I might get a 60 hours/week job and will be even more tight for time than now...
      LOL WUT?! A 60 hours/week job? WHY?????? You have just CREATED MANY jobs here for people who desperately need work! You have just achieved what VERY few people will ever achieve by giving MASSIVE value to a LOT of people who could not afford to buy it. In fact we need to put your avatar through photoshop & add some wings and a cape... I am seriously thinking about changing my sig now because it goes against everything in this thread...
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by steveperch View Post

        Chucky,

        I have been studying this post methodically over the last three days. I think I am finally absorbing all of it. I am also a young guy, finishing up school and to hear your story is really inspiring. I have the mindset of success and I can't imagine anything stopping me.

        Luckily one of my sites starting making money after a month of affiliate marketing. It has since been deindexed by Google but those first couple of sales were enough to keep me going. There is such a difference between no sale and one sale in this game.

        Anyway, thank you so much for all of this advice and for your input. I really do appreciate it. Excited to hear more from you!

        Thanks!
        Steve
        I like your attitude man! Yes once you get that first sale, you're pretty much unstoppable! I remember the day of my 1st sale, April 2008 and my wife said let's send the buyer a thank you card It was actually possible those days because click bank stats used to show your buyers' email addresses

        Don't let Google stop you. I have never been deindexed but have been sunk/dancing/sand boxed or whatever you call it for as much as 6 months or more. As far as I know, as long as you don't do anything silly on page, you will be fine.

        Also, nice to hear that people are really studying this material methodically like you are.
        Originally Posted by Tim_Hawksworth View Post

        Hi Chucky,

        Since you are putting up 5 posts - sometimes 20.

        Couldn't all this be done easier with a mini-site rather than
        a wp blog.

        The blog seems a bit overkill for such a small amount of posts.


        .
        I totally see why you're saying that. But the plgins that come with WP are so powerful that you will be missing out a lot by resorting to static sites. Trust me.... it's TOTALLY worth learning WP blog platform.

        But then again, it's not the only way and there are plenty of successful people skinning the cat without WP.

        Based on my little knowledge about static sites, there are at least several things you cannot do with them. I'll give just one example here. With WP, when another blog (e.g. article directory) links to you, you get something called a trackback. You can harvest them by using the 'trackback feed' plugin and submit them to RSS directories, ping them, bookmark them etc. etc.

        Originally Posted by zoeguy View Post

        Guys, this whole thread IS a WSO! Remember what the "S" stands for? If this thread doesn't qualify as special, I don't know what in tarnation would. What makes this thread standout above the vast majority of others is that not only is it FREE but like jmorris said, the VALUE is amazing and HUGE! As for myself and I am sure countless others here, I have NO income NO job, NO money for buying useless wso's that make money only for the sellers.



        Well said, Chucky has raised the bar for WSO standards...

        One of the most awesome aspects for me here, is all of the people who are taking ACTION with this & posting their results. How many wso's have you seen where that took place? I don't remember ONE and I have been here for a while.



        Talk about over delivering, DOOOOOOOD...



        LOL WUT?! A 60 hours/week job? WHY?????? You have just CREATED MANY jobs here for people who desperately need work! You have just achieved what VERY few people will ever achieve by giving MASSIVE value to a LOT of people who could not afford to buy it. In fact we need to put your avatar through photoshop & add some wings and a cape... I am seriously thinking about changing my sig now because it goes against everything in this thread...
        WOW, thank you zoeguy. Thanks for taking the time to write what you have written.

        As for the 60 hour job, because I've spent the last 15 years of my life specilizing on this and not sure if I can flush all of it down the toilet just like that. After all, money is not everything

        As for your sig, I guess I'm only sharing all the nice things and not the mean stuff, so I guess I still live by your sig

        Thanks again!
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    • Profile picture of the author moneymania
      GREAT!!! love your post.its very helpful.keep guiding us.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Sutanto
      interesting

      i found exact search 18k and there is one domain left so I pick up. I have added 5 articles into my blog. I don't know it's gonna work but thank you for these tutorials.

      I use serp attack to change market samurai software.

      I almost give up to get 100$ per month (first goal)

      my keyword has 487,000 competition for "keyword"
      and there are 7 google adwords ads when I see at google first page

      here the detail at the first page (I use "keyword")

      #1 --> blog PR 3 Title OK Description NO
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      #2 --> blog PR 4 Title OK Description OK (keywordblog.com)
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      #3 --> blog PR 0 Title OK Description OK (keyword.com)
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      #4 --> youtube PR 4 Title OK Description NO
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      #5 --> hubpages PR 2 Title OK Description OK
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      #6 --> forum PR 0 Title NO Description NO
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      #7 --> blog PR 4 Title OK Description OK (keywordinfo.com)
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      #8 --> blog PR 2 Title NO Description OK
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      #9 --> ehow PR 3 Title NO Description OK
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      #10--> blog PR 3 Title NO Description OK (keyword.org.uk)

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      update all my articles have indexed by google but it won't show at search engine page....


      what is your advise...?

      thank you

      kaitokid
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by kaitokid View Post

        interesting

        i found exact search 18k and there is one domain left so I pick up. I have added 5 articles into my blog. I don't know it's gonna work but thank you for these tutorials.

        I use serp attack to change market samurai software.

        I almost give up to get 100$ per month (first goal)

        my keyword has 487,000 competition for "keyword"
        and there are 7 google adwords ads when I see at google first page

        here the detail at the first page (I use "keyword")

        #1 --> blog PR 3 Title OK Description NO
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        #2 --> blog PR 4 Title OK Description OK (keywordblog.com)
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        #3 --> blog PR 0 Title OK Description OK (keyword.com)
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        #4 --> youtube PR 4 Title OK Description NO
        ------------------------------------------------------
        #5 --> hubpages PR 2 Title OK Description OK
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        #6 --> forum PR 0 Title NO Description NO
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        #7 --> blog PR 4 Title OK Description OK (keywordinfo.com)
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        #8 --> blog PR 2 Title NO Description OK
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        #9 --> ehow PR 3 Title NO Description OK
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        #10--> blog PR 3 Title NO Description OK (keyword.org.uk)

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        update all my articles have indexed by google but it won't show at search engine page....


        what is your advise...?

        thank you

        kaitokid
        The fact that there are 4 'keyword related domain names' on the first page tells me that it is probably doable. It is also probably a 'profitable' kw, that's why so many affiliates are after it. All other figures you give also sound good!

        However, I cannot give you a definitive answer without knowing the off page details i.e. how many backlinks and their quality?

        How new/old is your blog?

        Did you put all 5 articles at once? That is not what I do (and advice)

        How many and what kind of backlinks have you built?
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Sutanto
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          The fact that there are 4 'keyword related domain names' on the first page tells me that it is probably doable. It is also probably a 'profitable' kw, that's why so many affiliates are after it. All other figures you give also sound good!

          However, I cannot give you a definitive answer without knowing the off page details i.e. how many backlinks and their quality?

          How new/old is your blog?

          Did you put all 5 articles at once? That is not what I do (and advice)

          How many and what kind of backlinks have you built?
          I bought the domain name (org) for 2 weeks ago....

          I just saw your thread yesterday so I didn't know how the good way to post my articles lol

          I can give you the details but i can't PM you because my post under 10 :p

          so what is your email..?
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          • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
            Hello again Chucky. I know you are busy and hate to bother you with something I should probably know. I notice that you mention a "sticky post" on several occasions. Could you explain to a newbie exactly what a sticky post is? Thanks again for all your information. Jimmy
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            • Profile picture of the author Michael Sutanto
              Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

              Hello again Chucky. I know you are busy and hate to bother you with something I should probably know. I notice that you mention a "sticky post" on several occasions. Could you explain to a newbie exactly what a sticky post is? Thanks again for all your information. Jimmy
              if you mean sticky post on wordpress

              post --> add new --> at right panel publish, there is a sentence like this
              Visibility: Public Edit
              klik edit and check "Stick this post to the front page"

              do you want to know the different? add some articles and then open your homepage
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              • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
                Also thanks to KatioKid for your explanation. It sometime sucks to be so new at something that probably seems so basic for others but I have plenty of time and determination, I will get it! Jimmy
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    • Profile picture of the author akyyyy
      The general consensus is that you should target a keyword with less than 30,000 'competition'. Here, 'competition' is taken as the number of results you get when you do an exact search for your phrase on Google; e.g. "dog training obedience" (the keyword inside inverted commas). Tools like Micro Niche Finder (MNF), automatically gives this (they call it the phrase count). I rank #1 for a keyword with a phrase count of 8 million. I would personally not worry about it too much. Even if you are just starting out, if all other factors look fabulous, I wouldn't pitch a keyword just because it has a phrase count of 100,000. OBVIOUSLY, the lower the phrase count the better, but don't let that be the only guideline for analyzing competition.
      hello, thanks for this great writeup. i had a question about competition. im entering my keywords into goole, and none come close to 30k results. for a matter of fact, there isnt any keyword/phrase that i can come up with that gives me anything close to 30k search results. is there another way to access competition, or am i doing something wrong?

      thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Hey guys,

        Sorry again for the very delayed responses, I had some personal/family issues to deal with last week. Hopefully from this point onwards I should be able to get back to my normal self... that is replying your questions within 24-48 hours!

        Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

        but since I'm just starting out, it's probably good to to get my feet wet with not-as-valuable keywords so I'm practiced and ready when I move on to more valuable ones.
        Absolutely! That's what I advise too!

        I just installed Wordpress on it and will start building my site. I'm a little daunted at the prospect, but I'm sure I will get the hang of it.
        I'm sure there are plenty of videos outlining the process if you search on Youtube for example. We were all like that when starting out, so no worries there!

        Is a Wordpress site OK to use with your methods? I think you said that's what you use, isn't it? I will be starting out with free themes.
        Yup! Free is absolutely fine! Make sure it has got a good star rating and downloaded a gazillion times which tells you it's a good theme. Even better if you can find a theme that you have seen ranking at the top.

        Should I try to make the site look as non-blog as possible, or should I go for the blog look?
        I always go for NON-blog appearance with a sticky post on the front page!
        Originally Posted by Hotness View Post

        Hello Chucky,

        How have things been for you?

        Anyway thank you for your replies...! If memories serve me right my sites normally starts to rank in about 2 to 4 weeks - rank as in ranking within page 5 to 8 or something like that. To be honest, I really didn't bother checking my rankings (ever since my 3rd site) after I launched a site and start building them backlinks... And occasionally I do go up to page one in a matter of weeks for 'easy' niches.

        So, how's your experience with this?
        I have had a couple of instances where I ranked straightaway on the 1st page within 2-3 weeks. The only thing I did was bookmarking via Social ADR. I also think your figures are pretty good estimates. The exceptions are when sites start dancing. Once as an experiment, I gave a project to fellow warrior Matt LaClear. This was a pretty tough niche and it took him about 6 months to get my site to the bottom of page 1 because it would appear on page 8 dance for 4 weeks reappear on page 6 dance (disappear) for another 3 weeks, reappear on page 4 etc. etc. But he only does article marketing and I honestly don't know how or why that method even works (no offense to his method - it obviously works looking at all the testimonials as well as my experience). Anyways, to get back to the question, yes your ball park figures seems correct for low competition kw.

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        By the way, when you are targetting higher search keywords (when your theme keyword stablized) - I assume you are:

        - Adding posts optimized with 'higher searches' kw
        Not really! I didn't add new posts with this kw.

        You see although my site didn't rank on the first page for the high volume kw, my sticky post ranked about page 10 for this high volume/high competition kw because I had written the title tag in such a way that it contained this key phrase. The sticky post also contained this kw in sub headlines and text (much less than 1-2% kw density). But after I started targeting this kw, I went ahead and made some on page changes to emphasize this keyword a little bit. e.g. anchor text on the sticky post pointing to the domain and anchor text on other posts pointing to the sticky post and domain name. I think I also modified the title tag a little bit more to emphasize this keyword. If you didn't have this as a meta tag and in the meta description, I would go ahead and add it there as well.
        - building external backlinks with these kw as anchor texts to both main page and posts
        Yup my main results were from this
        - sticky pages remain for same keyword
        The sticky post was still MOST optimized for the original theme kw, but it is also partially optimized for this high volume kw as I explained above.
        I hope I got this right?

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        ... and The Sticky Post - I supposed your sticky posts do link to other relevant keywords in other posts + non-threat external sites too right?
        Yup anchor text using 2ry kw.
        But for external sites - I don't link out from my sticky post. They are usually in my footer (no followed), on an inner post or on a resources page. If you do it on the sticky post I suggest you decorate it in such away that people won't see it as a hyperlink (not blue, not underlined)
        Thank you...

        You haven't post the Pandalized site? I've been pretty eager you know... lol
        The only thing I wanted to say there was that because this was one of my very first sites I made (3-4 years ago); I had made a few mistakes at the beginning. When I go back to the site and look at the first 10 or so posts, they are really crappy, less than 300 word posts with a ton of affiliate links. I forgot about them and have only been focusing on the new posts. One of the things with Panda was that 'one bad page can influence the whole site'. That may have been why my site was taken down. I need to go and rectify that. Haven't decided whether I should delete all those posts or rewrite them, clean them and make them longer.

        Any advise from anybody would be greatly appreciated on this matter!

        In contrast, the site I mentioned above (electric camping lights or whatever I called it) is much cleaner and the principles I cover here have been applied from post #1

        Haruka
        Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

        Hi Chucky, I've got another question.

        I'm reading along with your fist post as I'm setting up my Wordpress site. I'm going to try a 3 page site with this one instead of a 5 page and I won't be using any of the paid plug-ins, only the free ones, so this site won't strictly follow the rules you outlined (not saying they don't work, things just kind of "flowed" this way). However, I'll try to make each one closer to you specifications.
        To be quite honest I have several sites with just 2-3 posts and ranking nicely on page 1 and 2. But lately, I've been making all of mine at least 4-5 posts long because of the calamity caused by Panda and whatnot!

        Any way, I noticed you said this about interlinking pages Later, you said that you schedule your posts to go out over several days/weeks. So, my question is, how do you add links to posts that haven't been posted yet? Do you just wait until the articles are up and then edit the links in?
        post 2 has a link to post 1; post 3 has links to post 1 and 2; post 4 has links to posts 1,2, and 3. At the end, I'd go and insert a couple of links to post 1 linking to posts 2,3 and/or 4. Usually sticky post is my 2nd/3rd post


        Also, you said that you remove all of the "default links." What do you mean by this? When I go into my admin panel and go into the links category, I get these: Documentation
        Edit | Delete
        codex.wordpress.orgBlogroll
        Yes0 Plugins
        Edit | Delete
        wordpress.org/extend/pluginsBlogroll
        Yes0 Suggest Ideas
        Edit | Delete
        wordpress.org/extend/ideasBlogroll
        Yes0 Support Forum
        Edit | Delete
        wordpress.org/supportBlogroll
        Yes0 Themes
        Edit | Delete
        wordpress.org/extend/themesBlogroll
        Yes0 WordPress Blog
        Edit | Delete
        wordpress.org/newsBlogroll
        Yes0 WordPress Planet
        Edit | Delete
        planet.wordpress.org
        These don't seem to be visible from the "front-end" of the site. So, should I still delete them? What's the advantage?
        To be honest, I don't know if there is an advantage of deleting them. But there is certainly no advantage of keeping them in. I just don't want to take a chance of them leaking any link juice out of my site.
        Thanks a lot for your help.
        [/QUOTE]
        You're most welcome, feel free to bring 'em on!


        Originally Posted by IMKid View Post

        hmmm... lot of unanswered questions! Very uncharacteristic of Chuck... Hope you're OK Chcuky!
        I too would like to know what was different about the Pandalized website
        Thanks for your concern Kid! You seem to be very mature for a kid

        Originally Posted by Hotness View Post

        LOL Chuck must have been busy developing some counter-panda strategies...
        I wish I knew how to do that
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        Originally Posted by Axiel View Post

        Hi Chucky,

        So this thread has gotten me to get off my backend and do something. I've dabbled in and out of IM for years, and this has probably been some of the best information I've come across with 'no-strings' attached, so thank you for that!
        thanks for your kind comments!

        I have spent a few days doing some keyword & product research and have found what I think have high traffic and high commercial value keywords and matching domains as follows:

        EMD.org
        prefix1-EMD.com
        ...
        prefix5-EMD.com

        Where the prefixes are descriptive of additional types of the keyword and not like 'best', or 'the'.

        Since each of the additional .coms are based on long tail versions of the original keyword, my first question is would it be better to develop a site for each of the keywords, or work on building an authority type site developing articles for each of the additional keywords? Second, if doing a site for each keyword, should (or is it even wise) they be linked together? (Example: For more information on secondary keyword go to prefix1-EMD.com)

        Thanks again!
        Check out this answer I gave Haruka above. I think doing the 'authority site' strategy is fine especially if you are a little experienced. What I'm finding out is kind of like this. If you take a domain name like this one for example "electric cordless camping lights.com", you can ultimately rank for "electric camping lights" and "cordless camping lights" (and even "camping lights"). But it would be easier to do it if you had "electric camping lights.com" and "cordless camping lights.com". But then it is 2 domains and double the work. But do you have to put that same 2X amount of work in the earlier instance or is it even more than 2X? I don't have enough experience to answer that yet.

        For me the descending order of preference for domain names is EMD > EMD with dashes > EMDsuffix > EMDsuffix with dashes > prefixEMD > prefixEMD with dashes

        I don't link my sites together. However, if you leave no footprint (adsense, theme, content, hoplink etc. etc.) and if your sites are hosted on 2 different IP addresses, it doesn't matter interlinking. But please don't take my advise on this one because this is something I have never done. May be you can open a new thread and ask more experienced warriors about it! And then keep us updated on what you find out!

        Sorry I wasn't able to give a concrete answer!
        Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

        Hello Chucky. I don't know if you remember but I am the paramedic that contacted you back in May about getting started into IM.
        Yes I remember... you said you have plenty of time on your hands... that was you right?
        Well I took the step and and set up a wordpress blog which is a review site for amazon products. I hosted through hostmonster. I am not sure I have done everything correctly with regards to having everything set up because while my site is active, when I go into my google webmaster account I am getting 404 crawl errors and I am not sure that my site is being crawled.
        From what I know that tells me you have links on your site or elsewhere pointing to pages that don't exist. For example, lets assume an actual page on your site is www.yourdomain.com/product1.html. If you linked to that page from another page with a link like www.yourdomain.com/product1.php, you will get a 404 error. There is an application called Xenu's Link Sleuth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia which will tell you about all your broken links. I use it on my sites but be warned that the report it gives out is pretty detailed and geeky

        I am so new to this I am not sure how to proceed. I don't know if you would have the time or the interest to check over some things for me and tell me what you recommend. I had some coaching prior to the site being built but I would rather discuss the details in private. I am not sure that I can pm as I have 35 posts. If you have any time or interest I would greatly appreciate it if you could pm me with some way of speaking. If you cannot I completely understand. Thanks so much for the great information. Jimmy
        Well I don't think you need that anymore, you're on page 2!! Congrats! nevertheless clearing those 'errors' may further improve your rankings. Unfortunately I will not have time for that for a while at least, as you can see, I'm going through a bit of a rough patch timewise

        Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

        Hello Chucky. I hope all is well. I have a follow to my post on 07-08-2011. I have been getting backlinks to my site and something has occurred that I do not quite understand. One of my posts that was on the 20th page is now in position 2 on the second page. Upon going into SEO Quake I notice that I have approximately 40 backlinks from the same website but I only replied to 3 or 4 posts on that site and backlinked to those only. But today I notice that virtually every blog on their website has sent me a link and several are pr-3 and pr-4. I am not complaining but as I said in my previous post I am so new to this that I really don't understand. Also I obviously want to continue doing the things that I need to be doing. Thanks for responding in advance. Jimmy
        Some blogs show the most commented contributor on their sidebar. I 'FEAR' this may have been what happened to you! What a TERRIBLE MISTAKE you have done Jimmy You lucky b-------! Congrats man! See this is what I said from the beginning, you don't have to know everything perfectly, you just need to do something and you will do somethings write and other things wrong and sometimes you get lucky like this. And nothing will happen if you don't take any action! Keep rocking and keep that source for yourself (may be you can PM me that site when you reach 50 comments )
        I'd be interested to know if my prediction is correct (about the most commented author).
        Congrats again!

        Originally Posted by akyyyy View Post

        hello, thanks for this great writeup. i had a question about competition. im entering my keywords into goole, and none come close to 30k results. for a matter of fact, there isnt any keyword/phrase that i can come up with that gives me anything close to 30k search results. is there another way to access competition, or am i doing something wrong?

        thanks.
        Hi,

        I'm assuming when you say 'nothing close to 30K', you're saying everything is way way above 30,000 right? I just found a good LTKW with just 4 results "reduce thigh fat cellulite" - Google Search

        This is phrase match, i.e. "kw withing quotes"

        I have no idea what the search volume would be for the above LTKW. I believe I said I don't necessarily go by 30K, I'm not afraid to go after 100K or even 200K. In fact, those numbers don't represent your 'competition' necessarily. If your keyword was Amazon Kindle 3 all the blogs in world that mention the phrase 'Amazon Kindle 3' will show up in those "phrase match" results whether the blog is about the Kindle, weight loss, viagra or porn. The last 3 instances are NOT your competition.

        You can also use allintitle: allinanchor: intitle: inanchor: intitle: and inanchor: etc. etc. here's an example intitle: amazon kindle 3 and inanchor: amazon kindle 3 - Google Search

        Do different searches with different one of those and find something comfortable for yourself. I can't give any figures because I don't use them. I use MNF (which has been non-functional the last few times I checked it)

        Hope I answered your question, feel free to ask more if anything wasn't clear enough!

        Good luck!
        Chucky
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      hello i see you proff what i want to know is how is this made possiblem to do this to make easy money online is it the software mnf
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    • Profile picture of the author Trevor
      Hi Chucky,

      I have two questions that have been bugging me recently, I would greatly appreciate if you commented on them.

      Question 1:

      I want to run a new website in the weight loss niche, I have already done my keyword research and I have been able to come up with a list of awesome keywords that are highly searched for but have low competition.

      The thing is, those keywords are sometimes unrelated to each other. Some of them are generic weight loss keywords, e.g., how to lose weight easily, while others are specific, for example, XXX product reviews.

      All of the keywords on my list have at least 50 exact searches per day and my question to you is, should I target just one particular keyword and build my whole site around that term, or can I just select, say, the top 100 keywords from my list and target all of them? The top 100 have less than 200k phrase match results on Google, which is awesome.

      Question 2:

      I like to write articles for backlinking purposes, however, I am a little lost trying to figure how many spun articles to create for one site. Should I create tens of spun articles or just one to submit to all the article directories?

      Say I have a Wordpress site with 50 posts, all related to one main keyword. How many spun articles would you usually create for such a site?

      Thank you a ton,
      Trevor
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        Originally Posted by goldenbbq View Post

        hi Chucky,

        i sought your assistance before and you thankfully replied to me however, I am still stuck with some annoying issues, can you put your valued input here please Chucky, I will definetely understand your situation if you are busy with your college stuff, and please just do it when you have some free time in your hands, you are giving us a lot of help without expecting any returns, but guess what you are there in our daily prayers, and mine are 5 times/day ones (lol): this is what I seek your kind assistance with:-

        -I am still a newbie of course(since I didn't even start yet) and trying to build a niche site following your advices and some others(whom i read their amazon free stuff)

        -his suggestion was to choose a keyword with at least 3,000/month, however, I chose to go by your recommends for newbies and found one with 720/month in kitchen and cooking arena.

        -It's in kitchen appliances, to avoid competition I chose e.g."electric slow cooker" as an example .. gave me around 1,600 search/month, but almost 4 M in google competing sites, then decided to make it less and found "electric slow cooker reviews" is closer to your 750/month norm for newbies, it was = 720/month however, it still has 2,950,000 compeition in google, again way more than what you recommended for us(30,000) and this is what I found with other competing websites:-

        -8 out of ten were BIG authority sites. first 2 amazon, nextag, cooking.com, bestbuy, kitchen applliancesx.com, wallmart, but 2 of them were even with more good contents, like e.g.
        consumer research site ??and the other one was a famous amazon affiliate review site (knew that from his picture on top) site with EMD with well written review site where he is comparing main brands of this item with all accessories, amazon reviews, buy by size, by brand, ...etc this affiliate site is no 4 in page one google, so here is more clarification of my questions:-

        1- as newbie i find if hard to try to compete with another more experience amazon affilate and a review site with exact key in his domain, even though i can find a good domain , but i am less confident i can beat?

        2-if I try to break my niche even narrower, e,g, "best electric slow cooker reviews" google search results of course comes also less, = 260/month, CAN I GO BY THIS monthly search number????

        I have read in another place that some go with very low search and still succeed? also I noticed that some keyword still have high competion color tags near them when doing keyword search even though their monthly search volume is less than 1000 i don't get this? is this same as looking at competion section in google?

        3-The e.g. less than 30,000 google competion is almost nonexistance to me I wish if there is with some products I like to promote, and this key word search is driving me nuts and I know I can't put a brand name in my domain, otherwise if e.g. I choose something like black&decor 600bs slow cooker I really find some interesting results with less competion but i know i can't do that.

        4-do you a also dvice newbies to only go for $100-150 amazon price tag and to stick to at least 9-10 amazon reviews? I found some products I like however, they don't have enough amazon reviews and no other 4 competing products in the same niche as some would suggest?
        5-I notice the consumer research website alomst in every product I tried to pick and they appear on first google, is that ok competion wise? how about all to be big authority sites? is there any easy way for me to check how strong they are?
        6-i would say i checked a lot of those "main stream" product and their search/monthly level and i found tough competion for newbie like me which leads me to always think narrower, less, less spending crazy amount of time , really leading me to start allover again i spent almost 2 months on this.
        .Chucky thanks a million,
        Hey, thanks for the kind words.

        First, make sure the 720 search count is EXACT! NOT phrase or broad. I would rather sell a $300 item with a search volume of 720 than a $50 item with a 3,000 search volume. Your decision should not be based on the search volume alone!

        As for best electric slow cooker reviews, I have several concerns. I have never used such a long tail kw EMD. I have a feeling you will rank easily for this, but I can't ever recall seeing a 5 word domain name ranked at the top. 260 is very low, but I too was doing some kw research y'day and looking at a phrase with a search volume like that. But that was in 'web hosting' and commissions are $100/sale. But slow cookers.. how much are they on Amazon? How much would the 6% commission rate be?

        I know kw research on a new niche sucks, but I would advise you to go for a niche where the price is no less than $250. If you think about it, the effort you have to sell a $500 product or $50 product is the same in front of the targeted buyer!!

        No competition section in Google (I presume you're referring to Adwords Keywords tool) refers to competition among adwords advertisers. Did I say don't go for anything above 30,000 exact phrase count? I must have meant it's safe to go with less than 30,000 if you find them. But you see this exact phrase count isn't necessarily your competition. They are simply the number of pages that have the exact phrase on them, doesn't mean they are competing with you! BTW I only get 72K results for "electric slow cooker reviews". You have to do the search within " ". That's why you didn't find anything less than 30,000. For "best electric slow cooker reviews", the exact phrase search volume is ONLY 1 - and that's this thread

        From what I can see, Electric Slow Cooker | Slow Cooker Reviews ranks ~#4 with 1 backlink to the domain and it looks like an autoblog - so it shouldn't be too difficult a domain to rank for if you give good original content and this phrase has 760 search volume right?

        Yup at least 10 or more reviews and 3.5 stars and above!

        Don't worry about authority sites, they are NOT focused, we ARE focused, so we can ultimately outrank them despite their high PR etc. But make sure they don't have tons of backlinks to the ranking PAGE. We don't care about them having a million backlinks to the whole domain.

        2 months is a looooong time for kw research Try Jewellery, try Industrial products, try baby products, try 'green' products - these people will pay regardless of price!

        OK hope that was helpful and good luck!

        Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

        Wow, thanks so much for your reply, Chucky!

        I had no idea that I wasn't supposed to use my ranking anchor text, I'll have to change that right away. I'll nofollow them for the most part. I figure it can't hurt.
        Not that you're not supposed to.. but you're just helping them rank for the same kw you're targeting. You can make it relevant, so that Google thinks you're linking out using relevant links (not only your incoming links, but also outgoing links are relevant) but not the one you're trying to rank for.

        Originally Posted by John2810 View Post

        Hi Chucky,

        First of all thank you for starting this thread. I chance upon this after one year of graduation / working and 4 years since I was active in trying to build my own websites.

        This thread and all the replies really re-ignite my desire to get going again. So thanks!

        I have a qns, I'm on to your Day 13 guide. I have done my keyword research...EMD domain name, 5 posts in my wordpress website (one 1000+ word article as the sticky post with the theme kw), meta tags populated.

        For off-page SEO, I have spent some hours searching for high authority websites to build links to my site. It seems the authority sites for my niche are only about PageRank 5.

        Should I be concerned about the PageRank of the sites I build backlinks? Or should I just go ahead and post / submit according to the natural link velocity?
        Don't worry about the PR too much and btw PR 5 is great, if you're referring to the exact PAGE PR and not the domain PR. Anyways, people say PR is only an indication of trustrank (may not be the case always). Just mix 'em up! Bookmarks, blog posts, blog comments etc. etc. The 1000 word sticky post is great stuff!

        Originally Posted by raxr View Post

        What's the point of creating 2 tier backlinks? A lot of the PR you're getting from the tier 2 links is being wasted on the links (other than your money site backlink) on your tier 1 pages. Seems like an awful waste of PR...
        I can't explain everything and I don't know everything. When Dan Thies, David Jenyns or James Schramko says it works for them I don't argue

        Originally Posted by Trevor View Post

        Hi Chucky,

        I have two questions that have been bugging me recently, I would greatly appreciate if you commented on them.

        Question 1:

        I want to run a new website in the weight loss niche, I have already done my keyword research and I have been able to come up with a list of awesome keywords that are highly searched for but have low competition.

        The thing is, those keywords are sometimes unrelated to each other. Some of them are generic weight loss keywords, e.g., how to lose weight easily, while others are specific, for example, XXX product reviews.

        All of the keywords on my list have at least 50 exact searches per day and my question to you is, should I target just one particular keyword and build my whole site around that term, or can I just select, say, the top 100 keywords from my list and target all of them? The top 100 have less than 200k phrase match results on Google, which is awesome.

        Question 2:

        I like to write articles for backlinking purposes, however, I am a little lost trying to figure how many spun articles to create for one site. Should I create tens of spun articles or just one to submit to all the article directories?

        Say I have a Wordpress site with 50 posts, all related to one main keyword. How many spun articles would you usually create for such a site?

        Thank you a ton,
        Trevor
        NO I wouldn't optimize all the posts/pages to 1 keyword. I also shouldn't expect to rank for all the 100 posts if I choose to take that route. The way I understand, you have to be focused to a certain extent. You can either choose the sniper strategy (focused - narrow) or otherwise (not focused - difficult to rank, but will rank for 100s of keywords).

        How about 1 spun article every week? The more frequent, the better of course! What I don't know is if 20 submissions vs 200 submissions of the same spun article will give you different results or not. I think post-Panda, we are definitely in a quality over quantity era!
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    Update:

    Video 4 of kw research also fixed. Will have the 5th video also ready within the next 2 hours.
    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author inter123
      Great stuff Chucky! Looking forward to the SEO part of your guide. You mention some of the sites are 'sniper' sites consisting of 4 or so pages. How optimistic are you they can last the test of time and be present for a prolong period?
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

        Great stuff Chucky! Looking forward to the SEO part of your guide. You mention some of the sites are 'sniper' sites consisting of 4 or so pages. How optimistic are you they can last the test of time and be present for a prolong period?
        Sorry I missed this question. No I'm not very optimistic that it will last forever, just like EMD, just like scrapebox spam comments, just like profile links, just like mass article distribution.

        In fact, after the recent farmer update, I got very worried that a particular site of mine may have got affected. I have one site with just 2 pages and ranking #3 (earns ~$50/month I think). But no, it was still alive! May be because I don't have adsense on them, I was spared.

        I don't intend to keep them at 4-5 posts forever. There is a very simple solution that I want to implement. Write 1 article a day and add it to one of the sites everyday. If you have 30 sites, each site will get 1 post/page every month. The other option is to pay someone $3 and get it written.

        It sounds like a very simple solution. But I'm ashamed to say that I haven't done it. I intend to do it after I graduate and have more time .

        I've said it once and saying it again, I'm far from perfect and yet having a decent amount of success. That's why I keep emphasizing that all one needs is to take some strong consistent action with a positive attitude and success and rankings will follow
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    • Profile picture of the author Erikey
      Thanks for the great information Chucky!

      Your post inspired me to sign up for Amazon Affiliate, setup a domain name, hosting, and get my site setup! Still a lot of SEO work to go, but excited to get the ball rolling.
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    Originally Posted by vizicore View Post

    This is a really interesting thread. I really hope I can learn from you and apply your tips. I'm only earning around $1 a day from adsense. Thanks a lot for the share!
    That's exactly how I started 3 years ago. First I tried to sell ClickBank products, I was getting traffic, but no conversions. So I thought may be if I put some adsense ads, I will at least make a few pennies. That was my first money online as well.

    Even if it is climbing the highest mountain in the world, you have to take that first step. And you've done it. If you had the guts to take that first step (domain name, hosting account, website design etc.) you are already ahead of many others that are yet to take ACTION.

    Set up a target, set up a deadline and be ABSOLUTELY sure you're going to achieve it. Think of it day and night, write it down, make a video of it, get emotional about it and you would be where I am before you know it.

    Good luck!

    Originally Posted by tayuyaa View Post

    Hi Chucky,

    Congrats on your success? I just have some questions to ask you. You said that you're sites are similar to sniper sites with 4-5 posts on them, but only 2 of them bring you the most of your income, are these two sites 4-5 posts too or are they the bigger ones?

    Thanks
    I just went to those sites and checked before I gave you an answer. My highest earners are small sites. Both of them has only 5 pages (posts) of content. One is #1, the other is #4 for a high search volume kw.

    Originally Posted by marjames View Post

    I rested IM for a while since I got frustrated and am now going to try it again. And this got me. A very valuable information! I want to thank you for this. I'm starting again to learn.
    Great to hear that man! That is exactly what I expected from this thread. Wish you all the best!
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    • Profile picture of the author tayuyaa
      Originally Posted by Chucky View Post




      I just went to those sites and checked before I gave you an answer. My highest earners are small sites. Both of them has only 5 pages (posts) of content. One is #1, the other is #4 for a high search volume kw.


      WOW, amazing! I'm gonna try the same asap

      thanks for everything!
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        Originally Posted by tayuyaa View Post

        WOW, amazing! I'm gonna try the same asap

        thanks for everything!
        You're welcome! But that's on a regular day and they are not Amazon. And I also don't recommend you keep them at 4-5 pages, I'm also planning on making them bigger sooner than later.
        The site that earned me BIG $ during thanksgiving was a larger one and was ranking for multiple keywords for phrases like 'black friday deals specific product name' and that one was promoting Amazon products.
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        • Profile picture of the author tayuyaa
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          You're welcome! But that's on a regular day and they are not Amazon. And I also don't recommend you keep them at 4-5 pages, I'm also planning on making them bigger sooner than later.
          The site that earned me BIG $ during thanksgiving was a larger one and was ranking for multiple keywords for phrases like 'black friday deals specific product name' and that one was promoting Amazon products.
          Yeah I agree with, I always try to do the more i can on my sites....

          BTW, what makes you the more on a daily basis? Amazon or CPA or CLickbank....?

          Thanks
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      Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

      That's exactly how I started 3 years ago. First I tried to sell ClickBank products, I was getting traffic, but no conversions. So I thought may be if I put some adsense ads, I will at least make a few pennies. That was my first money online as well.

      Even if it is climbing the highest mountain in the world, you have to take that first step. And you've done it. If you had the guts to take that first step (domain name, hosting account, website design etc.) you are already ahead of many others that are yet to take ACTION.

      Set up a target, set up a deadline and be ABSOLUTELY sure you're going to achieve it. Think of it day and night, write it down, make a video of it, get emotional about it and you would be where I am before you know it.

      Good luck!
      Hey chucky...it's great words you mentioned here pal. Really inspiring..I wish you all the best for your future. I wish your every month is as pleasant and rewarding as November
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  • Profile picture of the author mllnsgrl
    Hi Chucky..

    This is a great thread. Thanks for all the time and effort you've put in so far (a lot!!).
    I'll be waiting patiently for your backlinking, and interlinking strategies, hopefully soon.

    Best,
    Liz
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      Originally Posted by mllnsgrl View Post

      Hi Chucky..

      This is a great thread. Thanks for all the time and effort you've put in so far (a lot!!).
      I'll be waiting patiently for your backlinking, and interlinking strategies, hopefully soon.

      Best,
      Liz
      Thank you Liz, it's comments like that of yours that makes the time worth it. I see this as a great opportunity to organize everything in my messy head into a nice manuscript

      In fact, there is a lot more on page and off page SEO than I initially anticipated and it takes time to put them down in an organized manner that everyone can understand. The first post on SEO may not be before Friday I'm afraid!
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    hmm.....
    I will try it later.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by hilarious89 View Post

      hmm.....
      I will try it later.
      OK good luck!

      But keep in mind that "NOW IS THE BEST TIME TO START WHATEVER THAT IS YOU WANT TO DO"

      I didn't say that, I'm just quoting what the great have said in the past!
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    Chucky, thats cool, it inspires me

    I started my IM business 1 month ago and got only 10 page view per day only (yes, i am not smart enough). I hope someday i can make decent income like you do

    Would like to ask a) how many website od you have, b) average page # and c) hows their daily traffic.
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    Amazing thread and very inspiring
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  • Profile picture of the author calfred
    Congratulations Chucky.

    You're one rich student. Don't go spending on all the booze and partying now. CGPA matters a LOT, trust me.

    What's interesting is the Day Y, which is about off page SEO, aka backlinks. I believe you are doing grayhat stuff like AMR, SB, automated tools.

    Otherwise, it's the outsourcing.
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      Originally Posted by calfred View Post

      Congratulations Chucky.

      You're one rich student. Don't go spending on all the booze and partying now. CGPA matters a LOT, trust me.

      What's interesting is the Day Y, which is about off page SEO, aka backlinks. I believe you are doing grayhat stuff like AMR, SB, automated tools.

      Otherwise, it's the outsourcing.
      It's funny you should say that!

      2-3 years ago, I watched Amit Mehta (About Me | Super Affiliate Mindset) talk about how he started his IM carrier while being a graduate student. That was a big inspiration to me. His story told me that was POSSIBLE for one to be successful in IM while being in school and maintaining a decent GPA. That's the beauty of this business. Anybody can do it as long as he has a few hours to spare in the day.
      Another example that comes to my mind is Avery Berman, but I'm sure there are plenty of other students in IM that have tasted more success than I have.
      No man, I'm not that kinda guy that would spend all the money. Look at my piggy bank avatar
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    That's some awesome give-back Chucky, thanks. Like a lot of people I am waiting for the off-site SEO part because that is still the biggest challenge for most of us!
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  • Profile picture of the author PatMil
    Thanks for sharing Chucky - great post.

    I have just spent the last few hours going through it and the videos. It was very interesting, informative and inspiring.

    I'm planning to make good use of all the ideas and resources.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Originally Posted by tayuyaa View Post

    Yeah I agree with, I always try to do the more i can on my sites....

    BTW, what makes you the more on a daily basis? Amazon or CPA or CLickbank....?

    Thanks
    Ha ha you didn't watch the 1st video
    Main income is from CB and CJ. I have mainly targeted Christmas gifts on Amazon. But recently I started to target some evergreen products on Amazon as well

    Originally Posted by markowe View Post

    That's some awesome give-back Chucky, thanks. Like a lot of people I am waiting for the off-site SEO part because that is still the biggest challenge for most of us!
    I think the BIG TIP is going to be in ON PAGE SEO - believe it or not. In off-page SEO too, I do a few things differently, but the basics are the same I believe.
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    • Profile picture of the author tayuyaa
      Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

      Ha ha you didn't watch the 1st video
      Main income is from CB and CJ. I have mainly targeted Christmas gifts on Amazon. But recently I started to target some evergreen products on Amazon as well


      Thanks!

      Actually I watched the1rst video but I didnt remember you said that most of your income was from a source or an other..

      I'm gonna reach you asap
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        Originally Posted by tayuyaa View Post

        I'm gonna reach you asap
        Now you're talking my language
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  • Profile picture of the author jep
    Hi Chucky,

    What an inspiration :-) Hopefully I can also be as successful as you. Question from me, how far off did you start to build your seasonal sites (Christmas, Black Friday, etc)?

    Regards,
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      Originally Posted by jep View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      What an inspiration :-) Hopefully I can also be as successful as you. Question from me, how far off did you start to build your seasonal sites (Christmas, Black Friday, etc)?

      Regards,
      Jep
      Some of them were targeted for 2009 (I think I started them in like July August of that year) but were only around position 5, another was built in 2008. But the one that made the highest sales were built Feb-March last year I think. If you're targeting less competitive kw, with an EMD, April-May is plenty of time
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    just an excellent post all around. That little selfish part of me wishes people would stop talking up the benefits of amazon aff marketing but the rest of me knows that it's all good! Congrats to your success!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Faber
    Great Post. I see you're in IL. HAve you made plans for a great holiday season next year without Amazon. If so, how are you going to recoup that revenue next year?
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      Originally Posted by Steve Faber View Post

      Great Post. I see you're in IL. HAve you made plans for a great holiday season next year without Amazon. If so, how are you going to recoup that revenue next year?
      I was waiting for someone to ask that

      I'm a student and that's the reason I'm in Illinois. God knows where I'll be after graduation. Anyways, I have family all over who would love to give me a helping hand
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  • Profile picture of the author jzorro
    Hi Chucky!

    I want to congratulate you for your achievements!

    I have a couple of questions:

    1. You say you have many checklists on MS Excel sheets and that you would share those. Are you still going to do that?

    2. I'm really interested to know, in a more detailed way, how you do on page SEO. You also mention that you spend a lot of time on the interlinking structure. Are you going to address this?

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
      Hi Chucky...I have One more request...could you make a video on how you check competition on more competitive keywords ? ...like keywords with 25,000 -50,000 + searches per month..using the free tools please
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      • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
        First off, great thread! I'm hooked.

        My question in regards to reg. exact phase domains that are made up of product/brand names and model numbers.

        For example, is it ok to reg bic537R . com or hpdeskjest5678 . com? These are simply examples and the pages would be small landers selling the product represented in the domain name.

        Is this legit?

        I felt this was a relevant question for this tactic since this method can target product names keywords. I searched the forum for answers and found a whole mess of confusion. From what I've read, it is OK to do this if you are not misleading the customer but again, the opinions are mixed.

        On the other hand, is a exact phrase domain that important to rankings? Why not hpdeskjest5678review . com?

        So my question is two fold, is it ok to exact phase match on brand and model numbers AND does it make that big of difference in ranking when using a suffix like review?
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        • Profile picture of the author oogyboogawa
          Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

          First off, great thread! I'm hooked.

          My question in regards to reg. exact phase domains that are made up of product/brand names and model numbers.

          For example, is it ok to reg bic537R . com or hpdeskjest5678 . com? These are simply examples and the pages would be small landers selling the product represented in the domain name.

          Is this legit?
          Technically, no, it is not legit to do that. You will probably get away with it, at least for a while, but in technicality you could get slammed by the company for it. If that happens, the best case scenario is that you keep whatever you earned before getting caught and lose your site and any future income.

          However, it is okay to register "deskjetreviews.com" and then have a post on there about the hp deskjet5678 or whatever making your permalink something like "http://www.deskjetreviews.com/hpdeskjet5678/"

          Probably not as effective as having an EMD(at least initially), but what it does do for you (and IMO this is a big positive) is open up the opportunity to turn that into an authority website within that niche. Without registering any more domains you can write reviews of other hp deskjets as well as whatever other brands and models you can think of. Backlink each of those posts and create a good interlinking system on your site and before long your posts should start ranking with even less effort than an EMD because you will be a larger authority site.
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

          First off, great thread! I'm hooked.

          My question in regards to reg. exact phase domains that are made up of product/brand names and model numbers.

          For example, is it ok to reg bic537R . com or hpdeskjest5678 . com? These are simply examples and the pages would be small landers selling the product represented in the domain name.

          Is this legit?

          I felt this was a relevant question for this tactic since this method can target product names keywords. I searched the forum for answers and found a whole mess of confusion. From what I've read, it is OK to do this if you are not misleading the customer but again, the opinions are mixed.

          On the other hand, is a exact phrase domain that important to rankings? Why not hpdeskjest5678review . com?

          So my question is two fold, is it ok to exact phase match on brand and model numbers AND does it make that big of difference in ranking when using a suffix like review?
          My answer is no different than what two others have already mentioned.

          I did do a batch of websites with brand names in my domains. One happened to have LEGO in the domain name and I got a letter from their lawyers. But for others I did not. But after that, I stopped doing any new brand names.

          Sometimes you get away with it, sometime you don't. Do a search for iPad 2 and this is your top result - The Apple iPad Fan

          I think iPad must be a trademark but Apple seems to have not done anything with them.

          As for EMD, yes they are UNDOUBTEDLY many times more powerful than EMDreviews/suffix.
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      Originally Posted by jzorro View Post

      Hi Chucky!

      I want to congratulate you for your achievements!

      I have a couple of questions:

      1. You say you have many checklists on MS Excel sheets and that you would share those. Are you still going to do that?

      2. I'm really interested to know, in a more detailed way, how you do on page SEO. You also mention that you spend a lot of time on the interlinking structure. Are you going to address this?

      Thanks!
      It's coming soon
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
    It's up to the company to nab you for using their trademark. You could be forced to give up the domain, pay fines, lawyer fees etc. Research this outside of this thread and then decide for yourself if it's worth it. I believe its Technically NOT ok to use their trademark if you're selling a product in the same niche. I would just avoid it. There are so many non trademarked keywords to go for.
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  • Profile picture of the author oogyboogawa
    Oh and by the way.... Congrats to Chucky on such a good year, especially while still a student!

    Looking forward to your future updates
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      Originally Posted by vizicore View Post

      Would you recommend we use wordpress?
      Without a doubt, with ALL MY HEART
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    • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
      Originally Posted by oogyboogawa View Post

      Technically, no, it is not legit to do that. You will probably get away with it, at least for a while, but in technicality you could get slammed by the company for it. If that happens, the best case scenario is that you keep whatever you earned before getting caught and lose your site and any future income.

      However, it is okay to register "deskjetreviews.com" and then have a post on there about the hp deskjet5678 or whatever making your permalink something like "deskjetreviews . com/hpdeskjet5678/"

      Probably not as effective as having an EMD(at least initially), but what it does do for you (and IMO this is a big positive) is open up the opportunity to turn that into an authority website within that niche. Without registering any more domains you can write reviews of other hp deskjets as well as whatever other brands and models you can think of. Backlink each of those posts and create a good interlinking system on your site and before long your posts should start ranking with even less effort than an EMD because you will be a larger authority site.
      Thanks for the reply! Like you mentioned "deskjetreviews . com/hpdeskjet5678/" is the way around it. I'm going to stay away from it but I have to admit, what a tease it is but I don't think it's worth the hassle.

      Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

      My answer is no different than what two others have already mentioned.

      I did do a batch of websites with brand names in my domains. One happened to have LEGO in the domain name and I got a letter from their lawyers. But for others I did not. But after that, I stopped doing any new brand names.

      Sometimes you get away with it, sometime you don't. Do a search for iPad 2 and this is your top result - theipadfan . com - The Apple iPad Fan

      I think iPad must be a trademark but Apple seems to have not done anything with them.

      As for EMD, yes they are UNDOUBTEDLY many times more powerful than EMDreviews/suffix.
      Thanks Chucky... In the example you gave, that is a legit use of their name because Apple doesn't have a monopoly on the word iPad and the intent of use behind it is stating he's a fan of the product. I'm not a lawyer, obviously, but this is what I've read. Now if it was, appleipad . com that's another story. This is where my question was since my intent would be to sell the same product mentioned in the domain. However, like you suggested, I'm going to stay away from it. It's really not worth growing a empire with an achilles heal.

      It's just huge tease because there are some GREAT EMD domains out there for model numbers which would make it easy to out rank some of the big dogs on page 1 with 1 million back links, 8 year old domains, and 90k index pages. However, I suppose we just need to put the work in and do it right!

      Thanks again!
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        Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

        Apple doesn't have a monopoly on the word iPad and the intent of use behind it is stating he's a fan of the product. I'm not a lawyer, obviously, but this is what I've read. Now if it was, appleipad . com that's another story.

        It's just huge tease because there are some GREAT EMD domains out there for model numbers which would make it easy to out rank some of the big dogs on page 1 with 1 million back links, 8 year old domains, and 90k index pages. However, I suppose we just need to put the work in and do it right!

        Thanks again!
        OK I see now why they're getting away with it. Thanks!
        As for model name domains, I know Mark Dickinson, a good warrior does it. Why don't you look up his content or even contact him and ask. He's a nice guy.

        Originally Posted by RhythmClick View Post

        Hi Chucky,

        I was wondering if you could give any advice on the sort of content you will put on a page that you are targeting to sell a product.

        For example, have you done much study on copywirting or pre-selling or has this helped?

        I mainly use adsense and would be very interested in any tips on how you write content or set up the site layout to move people to buy (which is less a part of the adsense game).

        Thanks for any help.
        I'm afraid I won't be able to give you any specific information there. No I have not studied copywriting or pre-selling in detail although I have purchased and listened to Paul Hancox's presell mastery (another warrior here), but I have not applied any of the tactics he specifically discusses.

        I just try to give value as best as I can. I try to put myself in the searcher's shoes and think " what would a person typing in this search term want to find out" and try to cater to that person. The more desperate the buyer/niche, the more easier the solution, the more targeted the search, the more sales you make (I would think).

        I don't do any adsense on the basis of the following argument. Usually, they say you get a conversion rate of 1%. So if I'm selling a $40 CB ebook, I should be able to get $26 commission for every 100 visitors I get to my site. With AdSense, that cannot happen even if you get a CTR of 20% (unless it's one of those credit, mortgage, insurance like niches) right?

        I'm sure I'm not 100% correct here, that's why there are marketers making 6 figures from AdSense alone.

        From what I've heard, you get the highest CTR for adsense when you target specific products. Say if your page is optimized for Phillips DX12345. Then there's bound to be ads saying Phillips DX12345 50% off etc. and the visitor can click on it. Sorry that's all I know about adsense

        Originally Posted by vizicore View Post

        Loll okk... How about Thesis?.. I have seen this A LOT lately and I really cant afford it right now... Is it even worth it?
        With ALL MY HEART again

        I made the decision to switch to thesis about 1.5 years ago I think. For me also it was a tough decision at that time, but I went for it. Some people say there is no such thing as an SEO optimized theme. I don't know, my knowledge or experience is not good enough to argue with them. But what I have seen is that on Thesis websites, there is much less code at the top compared to some of the free themes (when you go to View --> sourcecode). I've read somewhere that that makes it easier for the SEs to find your content/theme. Again, I don't know how accurate that is.

        Another thing that I've seen is the H1. Go to a thesis website and a couple of other WP themes and view the sourcecode and see where the H1 is and H2 is and you'll see if the themes are comparable in that sense or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author RhythmClick
    Hi Chucky,

    Thanks for all the great info in this thread and cogratulations on how your business is going.

    I can see you are generating alot of your revenue from clickbank, cj and amazon. All essentially affiliate marketing. I was wondering if you could give any advice on the sort of content you will put on a page that you are targeting to sell a product.

    For example, have you done much study on copywirting or pre-selling or has this helped?

    I mainly use adsense and would be very interested in any tips on how you write content or set up the site layout to move people to buy (which is less a part of the adsense game).

    Thanks for any help.
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    Wow...seriously, very inspiring. I need this to boost up my motivation.

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author marcus passey
    nice one chucky great stuff

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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    On Page SEO - Part of it added March 26th
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  • Profile picture of the author php0606
    Wow...! this is amazing....SEO is the most important to get the 1st PR in google...i will practice it...thnks Chucky
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    • Profile picture of the author DaniRodriguez
      Hey Chucky,

      I want to thank you for all the information you have provided! Very useful.

      I am starting to implement your strategies and I want to know what you think about my discoveries thus far. I am going to go ahead and out my niche so that I can get your opinion.

      KeyWord: "tailgating grills" 35.1k competition


      Exact Local Search: ~1000
      EMD: tailgating - grills dot com

      Can you tell me if I am on the right track? The only problem I see is that there arent any supporting 2ry keywords that I can easily dominate. So I would not launch a batch like you have.

      The wonderwheel produced - tailgating supplies, camping grills, portable grills. But these keywords are out of my range.

      Should I launch this site and concetrate on tailgating grills?

      I would monitize with Amazon, Adsense and a ClickBank product (Competition BBQ Secrets) of low gravity (11.21)

      I appreciate your help!
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  • Profile picture of the author IMKid
    HOLY MOLY Chucky that's a ton of onpage seo and you aren't even done. Phew! I only skimmed through it and already saw many things I didn't know. I'm going to have to print it out, study it and get back to you with some questions.
    You have a good weekend man
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by IMKid View Post

      HOLY MOLY Chucky that's a ton of onpage seo and you aren't even done. Phew! I only skimmed through it and already saw many things I didn't know. I'm going to have to print it out, study it and get back to you with some questions.
      You have a good weekend man
      KIDO
      Thanks man!

      Will be updating the rest of the On Page SEO shortly!
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        • Profile picture of the author alco
          Hey Chunky.

          Would you recommend any Wordpress themes to buy or just use the free ones and buy the plugins?

          Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash37
    So no off page SEO? IMO thats the only part that really matters... Id love to see how you do off page.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by Cash37 View Post

      So no off page SEO? IMO thats the only part that really matters... Id love to see how you do off page.
      In my VERY HUMBLE opinion, that's a misconception. It's NOT the ONLY part that matters. The better your on page SEO, the less work you have to do with off page SEO

      If that statement of mine is wrong, so are people like Brad Fallon and Dan Thies

      Originally Posted by KatyaSenina View Post

      Man, you left out the best part on off-page SEO.:p

      When are you adding it?
      soon
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    Originally Posted by vizicore View Post

    its #15. Is this good?

    And I have another question... Should I try to move up one by one?(compare how i'm doing to #14) Increase my back-links?

    [EDIT] I want to add that the .net i registered is "PRODUCT NAME".net ...... Its a new product and they only have the .com
    Ya I think position #15 (not page 15) is great. Never had that much success in my life!

    Not sure what you mean by "move up one by one"?

    I don't do product names anymore, but that's a personal thing.

    Good luck, you seem to be on the right pathway!

    Also, the more sound your on page SEO, the less off page SEO you have to do.

    Originally Posted by alco View Post

    Hey Chunky.

    Would you recommend any Wordpress themes to buy or just use the free ones and buy the plugins?

    Thanks.
    Thesis! That's a WP theme (premium) You seemed to have missed that

    Originally Posted by vizicore View Post

    Does most of your everyday income come from ClickBank?
    nope, CJ
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    • Profile picture of the author KatyaSenina
      Man, you left out the best part on off-page SEO.:p

      When are you adding it?
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  • Profile picture of the author younganddirty
    good stuff,

    I glad you put the time and effort into this

    how long did it take to write this
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by younganddirty View Post

      good stuff,

      I glad you put the time and effort into this

      how long did it take to write this
      I just finished an exam and have some free time. About 4-5 evenings so far I think
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    Guys, if you have questions, please post them on the thread here and not PM me OK? Thanks!
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    This is an amazing thread, with solid information. Thank you for taking the time man!
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  • Profile picture of the author jzorro
    Hi Chucky!

    Once more thank you for the valuable information regarding On Page SEO.

    I have a question:

    Besides About Us, Contact, Disclosure, Privacy Policy, Terms of Use and Sitemap, do have any other page (not posts...) with content? Do you optimize any page for a given keyword?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    It was a long post,, but well worth reading. Thank you!

    I agree with not putting alll eggs in same basket.
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  • Profile picture of the author giseo
    great thread.

    also one should just not rely on a few sites for all their income, but to diversify traffic from just google, a hard lesson i learned this year.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Just edited and added something I forgot in the original on page SEO section. As and when these things come to my head, I will go on and add them.

    Added later - points forgotten to include in the original post
    • I nofollow the link to my RSS/subscribe on the homepage. Thesis gives an option in its dashboard for you to nofollow this. There may be plugins to do this for generic WP themes or you can manually add the rel="nofollow" attribute to the code if you can find the place.
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    Great inspirational post Chucky. Waiting for off page SEO tips and strategies.
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    hard to grasp..................
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by asim566 View Post

      hard to grasp..................
      I agree that it is hard to grasp if you're starting out. We've all been there and have conquered it.

      As someone said, there is no easy button. YOU have to learn it, YOU have to do the kw research, YOU have to do .....that's the only way YOU will be successful.

      Even if you outsource everything, YOU have to at least know the theory behind it to be able to give instructions.

      If you have any specific questions, shoot them.... even climbing mount Everest begins with that first step you take
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Day 13 - April 2nd

    Off Page SEO
    Sorry, the original post was becoming too long and decided to add it as a separate post.
    I want to say one thing before I even start this section. There is a lot of stuff and you can get discouraged if you are just starting out. But what you need to realize is that I didn't do any of this when I was starting out as well. I didn't spend a single dime (except for a domain name and hosting account), I didn't outsource, I didn't have software, I did everything by myself, and I did only a fraction of the things that I'm doing now and I still succeeded. Sure, later on I bought some toys to speed things up. So please don't be discouraged, start small, reinvest your earnings on the business, rinse and repeat, then you can do all the high throughput automation stuff that I do and MORE.

    At the end, I will also tell you what you can do without spending a dime and still be able to dominate a low competition kw to get you started.
    The basics are relatively simple. Build as many links as possible. The more 'good' links you build, the better! I'm going to make a few sub-headings just for the sake of better organization.
    1. Anchor text hyperlinks vs hard URLs
    2. Link diversity
    3. IP diversity
    4. Link velocity
    5. No follow vs do follow
    6. Indexing/strengthening your backlinks
    7. Going high throughput - automation
    8. Minimizing your footprint
    9. Mimicking the 'natural' situation
    10. How I do it now
    11. How I did it when I got started
    12. Here's a plan
    Anchor text hyperlinks vs hard URLs

    Simply put, the former is better than the latter. But you want a mixture so that it doesn't look too unnatural. I don't use exact figures here like 82.5% of one and 17.5% of the other. I go for anchor text whenever possible and resort to a hard URLs when a particular site doesn't allow hyperlinks.

    Do I vary the anchor text? If you have read a lot of SEO guides, you would have seen people recommending you to vary your anchor text. 60% of the main kw, 20% of that and another 20% of that etc. But if you have read as many SEO guides as I have, you would have also observed that some SEO experts advise against varying your anchor text. I think I have mentioned this earlier, but I'm saying it again. I've heard Terry Kyle saying that he has observed sites losing rankings for the theme kw, when he starts building links with 2ry kw anchor text. This has been my observation too. I've had sites go down to #6 from #2 overnight after building a few links with 2ry kw as anchor text. Was the drop in rankings purely caused by this link building or something else that happened coincidently? I have no idea. But after that, this is the approach I've been taking.
    • Homepage - theme kw anchor text only
    • Sticky post - theme kw anchor text only
    • Other posts with 2ry kw - the bulk have theme kw while some have the relevant 2ry kw (again no breakdown by percentage here; I'm really 'loose' here)
    Hope that makes sense. This is purely my method of skinning the cat and as I've said over and over, there are many methods of skinning a cat. What's important is to not get bogged down comparing and contrasting and spending hours on different methods of doing it, but picking out any one of them and just doing it before your competitor does. If you're not targeting hypercompetitive terms, the chances are that whichever method you pick is going to work.

    Link diversity


    This can have multiple meanings. Links from article directories, video sites, social bookmarking etc. is one kind of diversity. Another kind is the location of your link: in text hyperlinks (also known as editorial links) that are in the middle of a paragraph (some people say resource box links also belong to this category); those on sidebars and footers etc.
    Let's try to make a comprehensive list encompassing both kinds.
    1. Social networking - there are different 'departments' to this
      1. Content submission to web 2.0 properties - I'm talking about places like wordpress.com, WikiSpaces, LiveJournal and Squidoo here
      2. Social bookmarking - manual vs automated/ High PR vs low PR/ Tier 1 vs Tier 2
      3. Digging (DIGG), Liking (FB) and tweeting - traffic and/or backlinks depending on how you do it
    2. Article directories - the ones worth doing a manual submission/ Tier 1
    3. Blog networks - the better with more PR/trust rank/authority; paid ones/ Tier 1
    4. Article directories/Blog networks - 10,000s of places that you can submit articles to; I'm talking about paid ones like Unique Article Wizard, SEO Link Vine, AMA, Article Marketing Robot etc. and free ones like the Free Traffic System/ Tier 1 vs Tier 2
    5. Video distribution - for traffic and/or backlinks? / Tier 1
    6. Press release submission/ Tier 1
    7. Software directory/PAD file submission/ Tier 1
    8. Forums - Profile links and/or signature/ .com vs .edu/ high PR vs not so high PR/ Tier 1 vs Tier 2
    9. Blog comments - manual vs automated/ .com vs .edu/ high PR vs not so high PR/ Tier 1 vs Tier 2
    10. Web directory submission (can't remember the last time I did that; doesn't mean it doesn't work)
    11. Podcasting - traffic and/or backlinks (never done it; but I know it's powerful) / Tier 1
    12. High PR homepage backlinks/ Tier 1
    13. Your own network for backlinks - hosted on your own server/s/ Tier 1
    14. Guest blog posts (again, never done it - but should) / Tier 1
    15. RSS submissions
    16. Editorial backlinks - inside paragraphs and article resource boxes
    17. Footer, Sidebar/blogroll
    18. Numbered and bulleted lists
    19. Do follow and no follow (I'm including this also here because it adds to the diversity)
    20. IP diversity (again I'm listing it here, but will discuss with more detail later on)
    I'm not going to give you a list of the exact properties I use in each category. I'm sure you can find plenty simply by searching inside WF or on Google. However, I will mention a few important things here that address some of the sections above.

    If you have studied SEO for a while, you know you have to strengthen you backlinks by building more backlinks to them. So out of all the options above, you will have to decide which properties will be used to backlink your money site (Tier 1 backlinks) and which properties would be used to strengthen those backlinks (Tier 2 backlinks). If time and resources were unlimited, ideally you want to use all the properties you can find as Tier 1 backlinks and then all those properties again and again to backlink each one of those Tier 1 backlinks. That is not practical. Therefore what you need to do is to select the higher quality properties as Tier 1 backlinks and the lower quality properties as Tier 2 backlinks.

    How do you measure higher quality vs lower quality?

    To keep it simple, I'm going to say PR is the answer. However, it's not the perfect answer and I don't know a perfect answer. Things like trust rank, relevancy may also matter. But then again, different people have different views on these as well.

    I have added Tier 1 or Tier 1 vs 2 to the end of some of the properties above as a guideline for you to think a little bit about. If you decide a property is 'high quality' then use it as a Tier 1 link. If it is also relatively easy to get many backlinks from that property, consider using it to backlink some of your more authoritative Tier 1 backlinks. This is why I divide article directories and blog networks as Tier 1 properties and Tier 2 properties. EzineArticles, ArticlesBase, GoArticles, Buzzle, Article Dashboard etc. are Tier 1 for me. Among blog networks, Build My Rank is tier 1 for me. The web 2.0 properties are definitely tier 1 for me. However, I use them as tier 2 links as well to backlink some of my better tier 1 links.

    Hope that is not too unclear

    Something I like to mention here is that you don't have to do all of above. As you can see, I have never done some of those in my life. And for some of my sites, I haven't done more than a few of above types while others require more.

    Again, rather than reading and learning forever, you should just get on with it and get the ball rolling. Nobody knows what's exactly correct (except Google I guess). I have seen top SEO experts saying that a link from an EzineArticle is only as good as a forum profile link from a domain with the same PR. I'm not sure I agree with that statement, but then it really doesn't matter. I would go ahead and get a link from each place without arguing with the guy

    IP diversity


    I'm not an expert of techy stuff like IP addresses. The way I understand, all our websites are hosted on a computer somewhere and they are called servers. These servers have an address called the IP address. The more diverse the IP addresses of your tier 1 backlink profile, the more popular your site is in Google's eyes; and therefore higher rankings.

    With web 2.0, social bookmarking, video submissions etc., you can only get so many IP diverse links. However, when it comes to privately owned blogs/article directories, forums, blog comments, guest blogging etc., there is almost no limit to the number of IP diverse backlinks you can get. There are many article/blog networks that have many thousands of websites in them or article submission software that will submit to many thousands of them. Unique article wizard, SEO Link Vine, My Article Network, Free Traffic System, Article Marketing Automation, Article Ranks, Niche Press Platinum, SEO Ultimate Network, Article Marketing Robot, Article Post Robot are examples of such systems that I have used at least once (doesn't necessarily mean that I recommend them). That's at least 20K websites (doesn't mean they are IP diverse) and should be enough IP diversity to dominate relatively smaller niches with not too much competition.

    Link velocity


    Think about this for a minute. Let's assume a brand new website with a ton of valuable information on 'how to get out of debt' is launched. As the good news about this website spreads, its popularity will increase. If it got 1000 visitors the 1st week, it will be 2000 the 2nd week, 4000 the 3rd week and so on. A backlink under 'natural' conditions would be site A recommending site B by means of a link to site B. As this 'get out of debt' site gets popular, it will also come across web masters and they would genuinely start saying there is this great new site on 'how to get out of debt'. Just like visitors, the speed at which this site gets links will also increase. This is what is termed link velocity.

    You should try and emulate this 'natural' rhythm in your link building campaign. This is why building 5,000 links today and building none for the next two weeks is not good. Either you should build links at an increasing velocity or you should make Google discover them at an increasing velocity. You can do the latter by pinging an increasing number of backlinks everyday.

    You cannot go on building links at an increasing pace forever. The idea is that any new website will have this initial exponential growth and then it wanes off and plateaus. Once it reaches that plateau phase, all you need is maintenance level backlinks. This maintenance level depends on what your competition is doing to maintain their rankings!

    ALL OF ABOVE IS NOT COMPULSORY
    I'm sure all this is fine and works. But trust me, with my kind of schedule, I have never been able to build my links with this kind of increasing velocity. I just build 'em when I have time and I still get some decent success. If I did it at an increasing pace, maybe I would get better results.

    No follow vs Do follow


    I'm not going to describe to you what each type is. I bring this up because I want to emphasize a point. A lot of people only build Do follow links and don't build no follow links. If they do build the latter, those would be from auto approve blog comment pages that have 100s of spam comments on them. But no follow blog comments from highly authoritative sites are unbelievably powerful. There are many high authority sites that allow anchor text in the comments (where your name goes) and if you look around a little bit you can find many high PR pages where the comments are open. These pages are typically moderated and your comments will be approved only if you make a valid non-spam comment. I have had my sites jump from like #7-8 to #1-3 overnight from a single no follow link like this. If you are still on page 12, the effect may not be the same. There's only one way to find out

    Indexing/strengthening your backlinks


    10,000 do follow editorial links on PR4 pages that Google doesn't know of is as good as ZERO links (highly exaggerated example). Google has to crawl them and index them for them to be of any value. First Google has to find out it exists, then depending on various factors, Google will decide to index it or not. If you made the link on the homepage of a highly crawled website, then Google will not have trouble finding it. But what if you build a link on one of those hidden profile pages of a forum? Google has no reason to go in to those dark corners.

    So there are two things: making sure Google finds it and then making sure Google indexes it.
    1. Pinging will help Google find them, and the chances are Google will also index quite a lot of them especially if they are unique content (articles for example). If Google doesn't index them at once, you can ping several times, build a few backlinks to it etc. and try to force Google to index them.
    2. Once they are indexed you can also try to make them more valuable to your money site as a backlink. You can try to increase its PR and/or its strength as a backlink by building Tier 2 backlinks to it. Remember, if it's a profile link, it may never get a PR that shows up as a green bar on the Google tool bar. However, it still acquires PR and you just won't see that. May be it's 0.2332 and Google tool bar doesn't show it. But if you have 1000s of links with 0.2332 PR, that would give some serious link juice to your money site. And of course the way to do it is by building tier 2 backlinks. How many and which tier 1 backlinks are you going to backlink? Depends on how valuable the tier 1 link is, how much time you have and how much automation you have done. This is where I talked about low quantity-high quality tier 1 backlinks and low quality-high quantity tier 2 backlinks. Backlink booster (Sean Donahoe), Backlink Energizer (Steve Aylor), Link Juicer, Link Juice Maximizer (Pat Jackson and Gary Becks), Mega Link Blaster (Don and Jeremy), Link Thunder (a new WSO I saw within the last 48 hours - haven't used it), XRumer blasts, mass blog commenting (e.g. Scrapebox) etc, come in to play.
    Going high throughput - automation

    The beauty is that you can automate and/or outsource most of the steps in link building. I have someone that writes and submits articles to EzineArticles. I pay only once the article is approved. Then I manually spin this article or get it rewritten and submit to other high PR article directories. I have software that does this part as well; however, I find that the success rate is highest when I do it manually. For making web 2.0 properties, of course there are various programs. SENUKE, Rank Builder and Magic Submitter are programs that I've used at various time points. I've already mentioned blog networks and article distribution software that automates the article distribution. You can use these as tier 1 and/or tier 2. Then I've also mentioned some systems that can be used specifically for tier 2. For social bookmarking there is the famous Social bookmarking service. Fast tagging and posting to all major social websites - SocialMarker.com which is a free service. SocialADR, BookMarking Demon etc. are automated bookmarking services.

    BigMike's modestly priced software suite at Incansoft | Experience The Difference Today! gives tools to automate almost all of above steps. I have a bunch of them and I will tell you later which ones I actively use.
    For software directory submissions, promosoft from PromoSoft - fast and accurate automatic software promotion and submission solution is great.
    All these are great if you know the proper way to use them. I have my ways and I feel they must be good because I get good results. But I'm sure there must be other ways of using them (possibly better than mine). I don't pretend to know it all J (contrary to what my mother says).

    This is it for now guys, hoping to finish up the off page SEO section within the course of the week or preferably even this weekend.

    Hope you will profit from my effort!

    Update April 7th

    New content added - how I spin articles for extra juice. Check out page 4 of the thread!

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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Banks
    Wow, thanks for the detailed post. I make most of my money from adsense and am now starting on Amazon and clickbank
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  • Profile picture of the author abhibh
    Just finished reading the first page and amazing stuff.

    Just a quick question regarding EMD. Lets say bestcoloncleanser.com (.net .org) are not available would you go for bestcoloncleansers.com (adding an S at the end) OR best-colon-cleanser.com ??
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      Originally Posted by abhibh View Post

      Just finished reading the first page and amazing stuff.

      Just a quick question regarding EMD. Lets say bestcoloncleanser.com (.net .org) are not available would you go for bestcoloncleansers.com (adding an S at the end) OR best-colon-cleanser.com ??
      Good question. But I really don't want you to take my word on this. This is why I said "I suggest you look at the examples I have given and make an intelligent decision as to what you feel suits best for your particular situation." The answer I'm giving you below is NOT complete because I haven't done the other aspects of kw research for this phrase OK?

      Let's see if I can give a good answer. There are 2 things here. First you need to see if 'best colon cleanser' or 'best colon cleansers' have a higher search volume (competition analysis etc.). If the latter has a higher search volume, I would go for that even if the competition is little bit tougher.

      Would I go for bestcoloncleansers.com (adding an S at the end) OR best-colon-cleanser.com ?? In my opinion it won't make or break things depending on which one you choose as long as your other on page or off page SEO are on target. Given my current capacity in SEO, I would go with the non-hyphenated version and my sticky post would be bestcoloncleansers.com/best-colon-cleanser if I'm targeting the singular version of the kw.

      Hope that helps. Nobody can (or should) give you a concrete answer without for example testing 10 domains of each kind with similar competition and then creating similar off page SEO strategies. If only one does that kind of testing can he say OK I can clearly say that A is better than B after my tests!

      Originally Posted by Millerking

      Hi Chucky
      I read your really long post, at one point i can't agree with you:
      " E-M-D : e.g. flip-videoreviews.com (one hyphen is better than two hyphens)."

      You really think one hyphen is better?
      flip-videoreviews.com or flipvideo-reviews.com is better than flip-video-reviews.com?

      I did many search, so far i never see a example with one hyphen domain name ranked at top.

      Regards
      Miller
      Hey Miller,

      Thanks for a good question. In Illinois, the search for 'find cell phone numbers' brings the 1st result as find-cellphonenumbers.com. This has over 68 million results and over 150,000 phrase matches. I've seen many other examples.

      I think the reason why you're not seeing many of those is because people use that format of EMDs relatively rarely.

      But you pointed out something very good. What I wanted to say was 'fewer the hyphens - better it is'. I've seen many people say this. Will edit the original post to reflect that.

      Thanks again for a good question.
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      • Profile picture of the author seye
        @chucky how do we know product to promote on black fridays or are there some product that are black friday oriented.would love your insight on this.nice thread bro

        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        Good question. But I really don't want you to take my word on this. This is why I said "I suggest you look at the examples I have given and make an intelligent decision as to what you feel suits best for your particular situation." The answer I'm giving you below is NOT complete because I haven't done the other aspects of kw research for this phrase OK?

        Let's see if I can give a good answer. There are 2 things here. First you need to see if 'best colon cleanser' or 'best colon cleansers' have a higher search volume (competition analysis etc.). If the latter has a higher search volume, I would go for that even if the competition is little bit tougher.

        Would I go for bestcoloncleansers.com (adding an S at the end) OR best-colon-cleanser.com ?? In my opinion it won't make or break things depending on which one you choose as long as your other on page or off page SEO are on target. Given my current capacity in SEO, I would go with the non-hyphenated version and my sticky post would be bestcoloncleansers.com/best-colon-cleanser if I'm targeting the singular version of the kw.

        Hope that helps. Nobody can (or should) give you a concrete answer without for example testing 10 domains of each kind with similar competition and then creating similar off page SEO strategies. If only one does that kind of testing can he say OK I can clearly say that A is better than B after my tests!



        Hey Miller,

        Thanks for a good question. In Illinois, the search for 'find cell phone numbers' brings the 1st result as find-cellphonenumbers.com. This has over 68 million results and over 150,000 phrase matches. I've seen many other examples.

        I think the reason why you're not seeing many of those is because people use that format of EMDs relatively rarely.

        But you pointed out something very good. What I wanted to say was 'fewer the hyphens - better it is'. I've seen many people say this. Will edit the original post to reflect that.

        Thanks again for a good question.
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        • Profile picture of the author giseo
          great thread.

          a couple questions though.

          when doing link building how many links do you build to get the site where you want it? do you set daily, weekly goal numbers?

          and how long does it take for your sites to get on the first page at least? how long do you wait?
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          • Profile picture of the author Chucky
            Originally Posted by seye View Post

            @chucky how do we know product to promote on black fridays or are there some product that are black friday oriented.would love your insight on this.nice thread bro
            Good question! Since I'm not going to tell you exactly which ones I sold I did a Google search and found this one Top-selling products on Black Friday 2008 | ZDNet

            It's for 2008, but I'm sure if you search more you'll find best sold stuff in 2010 etc.

            Good luck!

            Originally Posted by giseo View Post

            great thread.

            a couple questions though.

            when doing link building how many links do you build to get the site where you want it? do you set daily, weekly goal numbers?

            and how long does it take for your sites to get on the first page at least? how long do you wait?
            The number of links is highly variable depending on whether you grab the EMD or not and the competition. I have had sites hitting 1st page (note #1 position) with nothing more than bookmarking and within 3 weeks! But then again I have sites nearly 3 years old and still on 2nd page with over 4000 links (of course this is not the typical 5 page site for promoting Amazon products).

            It's really that variable.
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            • Profile picture of the author JRCarson
              Great thread Chucky!

              I wanted to point out (because it happened to me!) that you do NOT want to have the word "Amazon" or any other trademarks or product names in your domain name. If you do this, Amazon will drop your account, keeping all accrued earnings without warning. It's kind of hidden in their TOS...or I am dumb and didn't see it...either way...

              I luckily got my account back and will get accrued commissions, but lost a real money maker, and it goes to show that EMD's aren't always the way to go (I'd be wary of brand names).

              Just my two cents. Nice thread! Keep it up!
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              • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                Originally Posted by JRCarson View Post

                Great thread Chucky!

                I wanted to point out (because it happened to me!) that you do NOT want to have the word "Amazon" or any other trademarks or product names in your domain name. If you do this, Amazon will drop your account, keeping all accrued earnings without warning. It's kind of hidden in their TOS...or I am dumb and didn't see it...either way...

                I luckily got my account back and will get accrued commissions, but lost a real money maker, and it goes to show that EMD's aren't always the way to go (I'd be wary of brand names).

                Just my two cents. Nice thread! Keep it up!
                Wow thanks for sharing your experience and congrats on getting it back. Fortunately, I never tried to put Amazon in my domain name. I learned my lesson with "LEGO". I shared that story somewhere on page 2 when someone asked about product names in the domain name.
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              • Profile picture of the author lukyjoe
                Originally Posted by JRCarson View Post

                Great thread Chucky!

                I wanted to point out (because it happened to me!) that you do NOT want to have the word "Amazon" or any other trademarks or product names in your domain name. If you do this, Amazon will drop your account, keeping all accrued earnings without warning. It's kind of hidden in their TOS...or I am dumb and didn't see it...either way...

                I luckily got my account back and will get accrued commissions, but lost a real money maker, and it goes to show that EMD's aren't always the way to go (I'd be wary of brand names).

                Just my two cents. Nice thread! Keep it up!
                I'm in Colorado too but since last year when Amazon stopped taking affiliates from Colorado I abandoned the idea of Amazon product sites. But I see you managed to keep your account, would you mind sharing how did you keep it?
                Thank you
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                • Profile picture of the author JRCarson
                  Originally Posted by lukyjoe View Post

                  I'm in Colorado too but since last year when Amazon stopped taking affiliates from Colorado I abandoned the idea of Amazon product sites. But I see you managed to keep your account, would you mind sharing how did you keep it?
                  Thank you
                  I was dropped in March of last year (like all the other Coloradans) and that's when I started making good money finally!

                  So it was kind of a slap in the face to say the least, but it took 2 hours to set up another company in another state (using a relative's address as the company address) and swap out all the links.
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  • Profile picture of the author katem
    Thank you for sharing your experience and honest input here!

    Kate
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  • Profile picture of the author jmorris18
    Hey Chucky , I just sent you a PM. I look forward to your reply.

    Thanks,
    Jason
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    Subscribed to this superb thread. I will spend more time here and gain the knowledge

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
      Hey Chucky... I'm curious which writing service you use or if anyone else out there can recommend one?
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  • Profile picture of the author b.super13
    Hi Chucky,

    Do you have that excel spreadsheet where you have everything that you mark down for each site?

    Thanks
    Bryan
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by jmorris18 View Post

      Hey Chucky , I just sent you a PM. I look forward to your reply.

      Thanks,
      Jason
      I'm a bit behind on my PMs... getting too many of them will check out!

      Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

      Hey Chucky... I'm curious which writing service you use or if anyone else out there can recommend one?
      I use Odesk. I have like 5 writers I think. I send them an email whenever I have something for them. If you've never posted a job at Odesk before, first look at how other experienced people do it (rates, conditions etc.). That way you don't run in to some of the unforeseen problems.

      What I usually do is, I say I'll give you a test rewrite of about 150 words and I'll pay 50 cents for that whether I like it or not. If I like it, you get hired, if not, you only get the 50 cents

      Originally Posted by b.super13 View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      Do you have that excel spreadsheet where you have everything that you mark down for each site?

      Thanks
      Bryan
      Yes I have, I looked at them the other day and they look very incomplete. I may brush 'em up sometime soon and post 'em. But it won't happen for a while I'm afraid. There is still a long way to go with the off page SEO part. Sorry it's getting delayed.

      I've got to do stuff that earn me money as well sometimes
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  • Profile picture of the author quintonboyer
    I tried getting to #1 for a few keywords, and then dropped to page 3+ after a few months. Oh, and stay away from using trademark names in domain. All that money that you make cannot cover the lawsuits if companies do bring it up lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author ocd
    Wow, this is very impressive. This a GREAT thread!!! I read for about 30 minutes, bookmarked it and will study it over the next 4 days.

    What I'm finding terribly disturbing is all of the basic SEO mistakes I've made since Oct/Nov. What's nice is going back and editing all of those little (really HUGE) mistakes. Now I'm gonna take what I have recently learned, blend this and go crazy.
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    Very very comprehensive and useful information, specially for newbies. Keep up the good work. I am impressed that you are sharing all this for free here and not selling it as a wso. Good work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
    Originally Posted by Chucky View Post


    Because this post ... was not allowing me to add more smileys etc. ... I have posted this section on page 3
    LOL.

    Thanks for the great guide Chucky. You're putting a ton of effort into this!
    You even had to kick a child out of the room for one of the recordings.. lol.

    Maybe the final step will be you revealing your real name.
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  • Profile picture of the author imuniqseo
    grate video tutorials thanks for this thread awesome work thanks again
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    great guide, thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
    Just launched my page a little over 24 hrs ago. So far only 1 page indexed and it's a "no follow" page! What gives? How can a no follow page get indexed? rss n XML site map are clean and no follow properly coded.

    Also about how long does it typically take for all pages to get indexed? Should I wait to backlink until they are indexed?
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by pack12 View Post

      LOL.

      Maybe the final step will be you revealing your real name.
      I know I will have to.... one day.... who would want to believe an invisible man with no name-no credibility

      Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

      Just launched my page a little over 24 hrs ago. So far only 1 page indexed and it's a "no follow" page! What gives? How can a no follow page get indexed? rss n XML site map are clean and no follow properly coded.

      Also about how long does it typically take for all pages to get indexed? Should I wait to backlink until they are indexed?
      Well you asked it to be 'no followed' which means page rank will not leak to the page; however that doesn't stop it from being indexed. If you don't want it to be indexed (TOS, Privacy Policy etc.) you will have to add a 'no index' tag as well.

      This is a tool I have used in the past to get my pages indexed quickly.

      Profit Instruments: Quick Index Tool

      I don't use it anymore because I'm not in a big rush to get 'em indexed. The above tool should help you. If I remember right, you can do this for internal pages as well (not 100% sure though). The other option is to post a link on a high traffic forum - like the WF/WF blog entry. I'm not referring to profile links, I'm talking about signatures in posts made on high traffic threads
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      • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        I know I will have to.... one day.... who would want to believe an invisible man with no name-no credibility



        Well you asked it to be 'no followed' which means page rank will not leak to the page; however that doesn't stop it from being indexed. If you don't want it to be indexed (TOS, Privacy Policy etc.) you will have to add a 'no index' tag as well.

        This is a tool I have used in the past to get my pages indexed quickly.



        I don't use it anymore because I'm not in a big rush to get 'em indexed. The above tool should help you. If I remember right, you can do this for internal pages as well (not 100% sure though). The other option is to post a link on a high traffic forum - like the WF/WF blog entry. I'm not referring to profile links, I'm talking about signatures in posts made on high traffic threads
        Thanks Mr.C I'll give both of those a try.

        I'm chomping at the bit to get this first site off the ground.

        Do you typically wait till you're index before back linking from ezine? I'm assuming we want our properties to look as natural as possible...
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by ocd View Post

          What I'm finding terribly disturbing is all of the basic SEO mistakes I've made since Oct/Nov. What's nice is going back and editing all of those little (really HUGE) mistakes. Now I'm gonna take what I have recently learned, blend this and go crazy.
          Hey just because you have done something differently it doesn't mean it is wrong. This is my way of skinning the cat; it's not the only way; it's also probably not the most efficient way; and I'm not guaranteeing my methods are error free.

          Good luck!

          Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

          Thanks Mr.C I'll give both of those a try.

          I'm chomping at the bit to get this first site off the ground.

          Do you typically wait till you're index before back linking from ezine? I'm assuming we want our properties to look as natural as possible...
          I do wait a while (a month or more) to start aggressive link building. The idea is not for the site to get indexed, but for the site to 'age'. But this is TOTALLY my opinion only. People like Steve Aylor (BLE guy) will strongly disagree with me and say that they will build 2000 links 2 days after the site is launched and nothing happens.

          When I did that, my sites went in the sandbox (or in to an ultra long Google dance) more often than not. So I just don't do that anymore. I would build 1 or 2 authority links (like Digg - easier than EzineArticles) and wait a while before I go crazy with links.

          Hope that helps!
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          • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
            Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

            I do wait a while (a month or more) to start aggressive link building. The idea is not for the site to get indexed, but for the site to 'age'. But this is TOTALLY my opinion only. People like Steve Aylor (BLE guy) will strongly disagree with me and say that they will build 2000 links 2 days after the site is launched and nothing happens.

            When I did that, my sites went in the sandbox (or in to an ultra long Google dance) more often than not. So I just don't do that anymore. I would build 1 or 2 authority links (like Digg - easier than EzineArticles) and wait a while before I go crazy with links.

            Hope that helps!
            Thanks again... I've read about spacing it out as well plus the type of back link makes a difference too... I just wasn't sure if you waited till you were indexed or not before starting to build. Thanks for the tips...

            Oh, and that pinging quick index service you recommended... it still works well... my main domain got index in a matter of an hour after i used it...
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  • Profile picture of the author joinmyclub
    great post! I will try this one!
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  • Profile picture of the author shaunchu
    Hi Chucky,

    Well done and congrats for your great achievements!!
    Your contents are awesome and there are many tips that I can pick up from you.
    I will follow your thread closely )
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    • Profile picture of the author jmbare
      Wow, wow, wow. Chucky, this is great information. I can take this and run with it. Great information for noobs like myself. Thank you for sharing, I greatly appreciate it!
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    Really great advice this will inspire people!
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      Truly inspirational. Thanks for taking the time to write this.
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  • Profile picture of the author giseo
    how many sites you have to get to the income you are at right now?
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by smlover View Post

      gotta have Thanks to your post first then read. Glad to see your sincerity
      Originally Posted by northseo View Post

      This is a very nice guide thank you for sharing it with everyone here
      Originally Posted by shaunchu View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      Well done and congrats for your great achievements!!
      Your contents are awesome and there are many tips that I can pick up from you.
      I will follow your thread closely )
      Originally Posted by jmbare View Post

      Wow, wow, wow. Chucky, this is great information. I can take this and run with it. Great information for noobs like myself. Thank you for sharing, I greatly appreciate it!
      Originally Posted by appie View Post

      Really great advice this will inspire people!
      Originally Posted by healingoasis View Post

      Great guide, thanks!
      Originally Posted by mrfusion View Post

      Truly inspirational. Thanks for taking the time to write this.
      Thank you guys. It is comments like yours that encourage me to go on. But for it to be truly worth, you guys really need to TAKE ACTION and may be post something like "My first 5 figure day, 6 figure month and 7 figure year"


      Originally Posted by giseo View Post

      how many sites you have to get to the income you are at right now?
      I think I have like 80 domains and out of them I have websites on about 50 out of which about 10 sites bring 95% of the money. It's the 80/20 rule: 20% of what you do brings in 80% of the $$. For me, it's more like 95/5 rule.

      Most of the 'failures' (or lessons learned) are not because they don't rank, but simply because I picked the wrong market/keywords. I have sites as high as #2 for phrases with > 2000 exact searches/month that earn me like $10 once every 2 months. That's why I stress the importance of selecting the RIGHT MARKET right from the beginning. The right market and the right buying keywords are essential for your efforts to be fruitful.

      On a regular month, I don't earn 5 figures. That's only during Christmas as of now. On a regular month, my main income is also not from Amazon. It's from CJ and CB. The commission you get from selling physical products is way way less compared to informational products on CJ and CB.
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      • Profile picture of the author tayuyaa
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post


        On a regular month, I don't earn 5 figures. That's only during Christmas as of now. On a regular month, my main income is also not from Amazon. It's from CJ and CB. The commission you get from selling physical products is way way less compared to informational products on CJ and CB.
        Hi Chucky,

        Where do you find info products on CJ? I thought it was only a site with physical products etc....
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        • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
          Chucky, I can't thank you enough for this... I really do.

          I have questions for the content:
          Do I write 5 articles focusing on the main keyword? or 2 for main keywords and 3 for the 3 2nd keywords?

          So I use only main keywords for the article title?
          The 3 2nd keywords is only to use in the article 6 times (2 for each)?

          Thank you!
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      • Profile picture of the author giseo
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        I think I have like 80 domains and out of them I have websites on about 50 out of which about 10 sites bring 95% of the money. It's the 80/20 rule: 20% of what you do brings in 80% of the $$. For me, it's more like 95/5 rule.
        thanks. roughly the same for me i found. until my two top earners get banned by google.

        back to the drawing board ...
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    Wow It's an huge an amazing post, i like it
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    Hey Chucky

    How do you reduce the risk with Adsense? Anything special

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by blog8491 View Post

      Hey Chucky

      How do you reduce the risk with Adsense? Anything special

      Thanks
      Rukshan
      I don't do Adsense. In my opinion, if I can bring in 100 visitors for a buying keyword, the best way to monetize those 100 visitors is not Adsense. I might as well sell them something that gives me better money. I do have adsense on most of my sites, but they are not in the 'hotspot' for maximum CTRs. They are there only to track the daily page views. I know... I'm lazy to log in to my Analytics.
      Besides, I don't have duplicate or auto-generated content, so I don't see any reason why I should have a problem with Adsense.

      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      Chucky, I can't thank you enough for this... I really do.

      I have questions for the content:
      Do I write 5 articles focusing on the main keyword? or 2 for main keywords and 3 for the 3 2nd keywords?

      So I use only main keywords for the article title?
      The 3 2nd keywords is only to use in the article 6 times (2 for each)?

      Thank you!
      I'm sorry, can you pls restructure the question using the phrases 'theme kw', 'primary kw' and 'secondary kw'?

      Thanks!

      Originally Posted by tayuyaa View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      Where do you find info products on CJ? I thought it was only a site with physical products etc....
      I'm sorry, they are not informational products as in CB eBooks. What I promote on CJ are more like downloadable software. It's not a physical product, that's why I said informational. Sorry about the misunderstanding!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Update April 7th

    Off page SEO Part 2

    In the first part that I wrote about off page SEO, I covered the first 7 sub headlines listed here. So today, I'm going to address the 8th one. It's one of the more important parts in my opinion. So hopefully you get something out of it.
    1. Anchor text hyperlinks vs hard URLs
    2. Link diversity
    3. IP diversity
    4. Link velocity
    5. No follow vs do follow
    6. Indexing/strengthening your backlinks
    7. Going high throughput - automation
    8. Minimizing your footprint
    9. Mimicking the 'natural' situation
    10. How I do it now
    11. How I did it when I got started
    12. Here's a plan
    Minimizing your footprint

    People talk about this, but I don't think many people address it enough. I'm one of those extra cautious paranoid people in most things in life. And you're going to see that written all over this section J. Am I over doing it? Probably yes! Can overdoing it hurt one? I don't think so! That's my philosophy. I'm pretty sure you can get away without being as paranoid as I am. Where you want to draw the line is entirely up to you.

    Footprints - where?
    • Web 2.0 properties/Article marketing - title, body, resource box, outgoing links
    • Profile links - especially if you build 100 profiles with the same 2-3 links
    Depending on the kind of link building strategies you follow, I'm sure you can relate these 'footprints' to whatever it is that you're doing. The thinking is that if you can see them, probably Google can too! But another school of thought is that it's not easy for Google to keep track of them, just because you can. You only have those 50 spun articles in front of you. But for Google, your 50 spun articles are interspersed among a gazillion other articles and then yours are not the only ones that have similar content. So how does Google really keep track of all these? Theoretically it can, but it will require a lot of memory or capacity or processing power or whatever.

    This is my experience.

    If I make 10 web 2.0 properties with a thinly spun article, I will consider myself lucky if I'm able to get 3 of them indexed. If I spin them my way, I will get as much as 7-8 of them indexed. That tells me, Google can keep track of insufficiently spun content to a certain extent.

    Here's how I do it.

    A) Spinning article titles - It's really not too hard. Let's do an example. I have at least 3 components to a title. They are indicated in 3 different colors below

    Karaoke Machine Reviews
    . Here we review Best Karaoke Machines

    Then I would write 2-3 additional versions of them

    Popular Karaoke Machines.

    Reviews of Kids Karaoke Machines.

    How to Find
    Cheap Karaoke Machines.
    Look Here to Find Online Deals on Karaoke Machines

    OK now let's put them together and spin them.

    {
    {Kids|}Karaoke Machine Reviews|Popular {Kids|}Karaoke Machines|Reviews of {Kids|}Karaoke Machines}.{ Here we review| How to Find| Look Here to Find|} {Best {Kids|} Karaoke Machines|Cheap {Kids|} Karaoke Machines|Online Deals on {Kids|} Karaoke Machines}

    This may not look too different from what some of you may be used to. But I want to you to pay attention to this particular bit { Here we review| How to Find| Look Here to Find|} Did you notice that there is an extra pipe symbol (|) at the end? What that does is, it gives a BLANK space for the middle portion for approximately 25% of the spun versions.

    So that you would have something like this: Popular Kids Karaoke Machines. Cheap Karaoke Machines. Now this is very different from Popular Kids Karaoke Machines. How to Find Cheap Karaoke Machines. This is obviously not a DRAMATIC difference, but I think these little differences matter.

    If you can add 4 components to the title instead of the 3 that I've demonstrated above, that'll make it even more unique in Google's eyes.

    B) Spinning the article body - you can take the same idea from 'title spinning' and go to town with it when it comes to the article body. The options are endless

    Basically, I spin the content as much as possible. Not just at the word, phrase and sentence level. But also at the paragraph level. And the just like I did above, I leave a pipe (|) followed by a blank space for 1 sentence in each paragraph and I would do that for 1 or 2 paragraphs as well. Because of this, my articles have varying numbers of sentences and paragraphs - and thus more uniqueness in the eyes of Google. Let's try to do an example below.

    {paragraph 1sentence 1version 1|paragraph 1sentence 1version 2|paragraph 1sentence 1version 3}.
    {paragraph 1sentence 2version 1|paragraph 1sentence 2version 2|paragraph 1sentence 2version 3}. {{paragraph 1sentence 3version 1|paragraph 1sentence 3version 2|paragraph 1sentence 3version 3}. |} {paragraph 1sentence 4version 1|paragraph 1sentence 4version 2|paragraph 1sentence 4version 3}.

    Can you see what the large blue {|} would do to the 3rd sentence? In half the number of articles, the 1st paragraph will have 4 sentences while in the other half, it'll have only 3 sentences. And if this article has 5 paragraphs, it will have sentences varying from 15-20 among the spun versions. Now I'm sure that's a new dimension of uniqueness that a lot of people didn't have in their articles.

    OK, here's another dimension of uniqueness.

    {paragraph 1sentence 1version 1|paragraph 1sentence 1version 2|paragraph 1sentence 1version 3}.
    {paragraph 1sentence 2version 1|paragraph 1sentence 2version 2|paragraph 1sentence 2version 3}. {{paragraph 1sentence 3version 1|paragraph 1sentence 3version 2|paragraph 1sentence 3version 3}. |} {paragraph 1sentence 4version 1|paragraph 1sentence 4version 2|paragraph 1sentence 4version 3}

    {
    {paragraph 2sentence 1version 1|paragraph 2sentence 1version 2|paragraph 2sentence 1version 3}. {paragraph 2sentence 2version 1|paragraph 2sentence 2version 2|paragraph 2sentence 2version 3}. {{paragraph 2sentence 3version 1|paragraph 2sentence 3version 2|paragraph 2sentence 3version 3}. |} {paragraph 2sentence 4version 1|paragraph 2sentence 4version 2|paragraph 2sentence 4version 3}.

    |}
    {paragraph 3sentence 1version 1|paragraph 3sentence 1version 2|paragraph 3sentence 1version 3}. {paragraph 3sentence 2version 1|paragraph 3sentence 2version 2|paragraph 3sentence 2version 3}. {{paragraph 3sentence 3version 1|paragraph 3sentence 3version 2|paragraph 3sentence 3version 3}. |} {paragraph 3sentence 4version 1|paragraph 3sentence 4version 2|paragraph 3sentence 4version 3}

    Can you see what this spin syntax around the 3rd paragraph does? It will get rid of the 3rd paragraph in certain articles. Now that will change the number of paragraphs as well as number of sentences in the article dramatically! Why do I have the closing syntax |} at the beginning of the 3rd paragraph rather than at the end of the 2nd paragraph? Because if I do it the other way, whenever the 2nd paragraph disappears, there will be a double space between paragraphs 1 and 3. Spin it both ways and you'll see what I'm talking about.

    Want another dimension of uniqueness? OK here it is - but you will not be able to apply it every day. For web 2.0 properties that approve content without moderation (and that will not get moderated in the future) this will likely work!

    Here what I do is having content on 3 topics in one article.
    The first half will have stuff on topic A and then the second half will be on topics B or C. Here's how I do it.

    First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A. First half of article on topic A.


    {
    Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B. Second half of article on topic B.| Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C. Second half of article on topic C.}

    I don't think it can get anymore unique than that guys! But as you can see, it will not work everywhere. If topics A, B and C are different like apples and oranges, would they fit under the same title? Would a strictly moderated article directory approve your article? Are you going to make the topics as different as weight loss and kids karaoke machines? Or are you going to make them subtly different like, weight loss, fitness training and muscle building? Do you see where I'm going? It's not impossible!

    Depending on the niches you are in, it may do miracles to your article syndication.

    As of April 7th, I have bought this, but haven't tried it yet; I think Jonathan Teng's IAS software can help you achieve the levels of spinning that I'm talking about http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-articles.html

    C) Spinning the resource box

    I don't think I need to add anymore to this than what I've already mentioned with spinning the article body. If allowed, change the pen name of the author here for additional uniqueness.

    For even more extra uniqueness rather than spinning names like {Adam Beever|John Emerson|Wendy Jackson} do them like {Adam|John|Wendy} {Beever|Emerson|Jackson}.

    D) Spinning the outgoing links

    Again, this will add an additional layer of uniqueness to your spun content. If your links are in the resource box, it will be something like this.

    {
    {Adam|John|Wendy} {Beever|Emerson|Jackson} also writes about {anchor text 1| anchor text 2| anchor text 3} and {anchor text 4| anchor text 5| anchor text 6}|For more information about {anchor text 1| anchor text 2| anchor text 3} visit {Kelly|Noel|Jimmy} {Swanson|Watson|Johnson}'s {blog|website} by clicking on any of the above links}

    What I wrote above is not the most unique resource box I've written. You should add more variations and use some of the tips that I mentioned under the article body.

    The beauty about these resource boxes is that once you write an ultra spinnable resource box, you can use them over and over and over and over. Because the possible combinations are limitless.

    Added advantage
    An added advantage of this system is that you don't have to worry about putting out too many links in one day. Even if your campaign sends out articles to 500 article directories in one day, because you have many links in there, you are not building 500 links to one site in one day.

    While some people don't worry about building a gazillion links in one day, some do. This method makes both those groups happy

    E) Spinning in text/editorial links

    If this is a submission for web 2.0 properties, you are probably not going to use a resource box. In this case, you can put your links in the content the way I have demonstrated earlier (topic A for first half and topics B and C for 2nd half) and it will work beautifully.

    Where do you get the content for all the spinning?

    The next big question on your mind should be where do I get this content from? This indeed is the big question, not spinning. If you want premium content, you will either have to write them yourself or outsource them. If you are publishing them on non-moderated properties, you can even use PLR articles and spin them together. They may not make perfect sense to you or your reader, but search engines will give some credit to those because the different combinations make the content unique even though individual sentences are not. Remember, these are not for people to read, I call them 'search engine fodder'. This is probably one of those grey hat things. I don't do this; I use premium ultra spinnable articles from Vita Vee's 'The Leading Articles'. They don't come cheap and may not be the right option for you if you are just starting out.

    But I know people using Free PLR content and feeding Google with spun PLR content. Search Google for something like 'Free PLR' articles and you should get plenty of options. But please be warned that these articles may have already been used over and over all over the internet and you may not get any value at all.

    I hope this lesson on spinning sparked many new ideas in your heads and hopefully you will implement this and get better link juice from your campaigns.

    I've been pretty slow updating the off page SEO section guys, I apologize. I'm going through one of those busy patches.
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      • Profile picture of the author akyyyy
        Hi,

        I'm assuming when you say 'nothing close to 30K', you're saying everything is way way above 30,000 right? I just found a good LTKW with just 4 results "reduce thigh fat cellulite" - Google Search

        This is phrase match, i.e. "kw withing quotes"

        I have no idea what the search volume would be for the above LTKW. I believe I said I don't necessarily go by 30K, I'm not afraid to go after 100K or even 200K. In fact, those numbers don't represent your 'competition' necessarily. If your keyword was Amazon Kindle 3 all the blogs in world that mention the phrase 'Amazon Kindle 3' will show up in those "phrase match" results whether the blog is about the Kindle, weight loss, viagra or porn. The last 3 instances are NOT your competition.

        You can also use allintitle: allinanchor: intitle: inanchor: intitle: and inanchor: etc. etc. here's an example intitle: amazon kindle 3 and inanchor: amazon kindle 3 - Google Search

        Do different searches with different one of those and find something comfortable for yourself. I can't give any figures because I don't use them. I use MNF (which has been non-functional the last few times I checked it)

        Hope I answered your question, feel free to ask more if anything wasn't clear enough!

        Good luck!
        Chucky
        thanks for the reply and the tip for searching intitle and inanchor. Using MNF what parameters do you suggest using, or what do you use?

        As for content Im just working on a amazon product specific site. How many pages would be enough before allowing google to crawl the site. And what kind of writing do you have for amazon products: reviews, or specifications of the products? Would using any of the review comments from amazon.com be considered duplicate content?

        and one last thing, if my keyword was "amazon kindle 3" would i also get searches for "3 kindle amazon" or any other order of the words? Or should I write my pages using my keyword in different orders? And what about plural form of a keyword, would this be one keyword "blender" and "blenders"???

        im also using Thesis. Do you have any suggestions or tips on how to utilize this theme for its fullest? And do you use the stock look, or use any skins, change backgrould colors etc?

        thank you!!!

        ps: also can you pm me any writers that you recommend or use? I havent had much luck with 3 of them i've used so far.
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        • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
          Hello Chucky. I really appreciate your response. You are exactly right. I am listed on the sidebar as the most commented author. I am up to 84 and it appears that I have received a link from every post on their site. I made some complementing comments about this company and the next thing I new I was revieving pr 3 and pr 4 links. In my case luck had everything to do with it. I would be interested to know what I should do at this point to keep this going.

          The most important thing that I can tell you is to take all the time you need to deal with the family issues you are having. I am 49 and have 3 kids all college and I can tell you that there will never be anything more important than your family. Its none of our business what your problems are but I can tell you it doesn't matter to me if you ever reply to your posts as long as you and your family are doing well. You seem to be a very generous person and I am sure that good things will come to you. God bless and I hope all goes well. Jimmy
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  • Profile picture of the author kyiko
    Dude you get 10% commision??...I seen poeple with WSO's that don't have 10%!!..Get a Course out man..lol
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  • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
    I'm sorry, can you pls restructure the question using the phrases 'theme kw', 'primary kw' and 'secondary kw'?

    Thanks!
    Sorry Chucky, for the confusion.

    Correct me if I am wrong, theme kw = primary kw

    So if my theme keywords (primary kw) is internet marketing

    and my secondary kw is = internet marketing tips, tools for internet marketing, and best strategies for internet marketing, etc.

    So do I write my 5 articles focus on primary kw only
    or
    one article for primary kw and 4 other article for each secondary keyword?
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    • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      Sorry Chucky, for the confusion.

      Correct me if I am wrong, theme kw = primary kw

      So if my theme keywords (primary kw) is internet marketing

      and my secondary kw is = internet marketing tips, tools for internet marketing, and best strategies for internet marketing, etc.

      So do I write my 5 articles focus on primary kw only
      or
      one article for primary kw and 4 other article for each secondary keyword?
      I don't mean to butt in on this conversation, but maybe I can help since I was confused on this very part myself.

      I broke it down as:

      Theme Keyword (never changes)- Kids karaoke machines
      Primary Keyword (1ry) (articles target kw)- karaoke machines for kids
      Secondary Keyword (all other keywords)- kid karaoke machine reviews
      LSI Keywords - Use Google Wonder Wheel for these

      For each keyword:

      Title Tag - For each article
      1ry keyword - theme kw
      (example: Karaoke Machines for Kids - All about Kids Karaoke Machines)

      So I PERSONALLY took as the theme keyword never changes. It is the root keyword with the highest volume...

      Article 1 will use the same theme keyword and the same primary keyword.

      Article 2, 3, etc are then focused on the following primary keywords BUT you also include the theme keyword as well, just as I show in the above example. The theme keyword never changes since it is your best keyword therefore he uses it in every article.

      That was my interpretation of it. I had to write it out to understand... hopefully I'm right and this helps.

      Correct me if I'm wrong Chucky...
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

        I don't mean to butt in on this conversation, but maybe I can help since I was confused on this very part myself.

        I broke it down as:

        Theme Keyword (never changes)- Kids karaoke machines
        Primary Keyword (1ry) (articles target kw)- karaoke machines for kids
        Secondary Keyword (all other keywords)- kid karaoke machine reviews
        LSI Keywords - Use Google Wonder Wheel for these

        For each keyword:

        Title Tag - For each article
        1ry keyword - theme kw
        (example: Karaoke Machines for Kids - All about Kids Karaoke Machines)

        So I PERSONALLY took as the theme keyword never changes. It is the root keyword with the highest volume...

        Article 1 will use the same theme keyword and the same primary keyword.

        Article 2, 3, etc are then focused on the following primary keywords BUT you also include the theme keyword as well, just as I show in the above example. The theme keyword never changes since it is your best keyword therefore he uses it in every article.

        That was my interpretation of it. I had to write it out to understand... hopefully I'm right and this helps.

        Correct me if I'm wrong Chucky...
        Yes I think you got it right, let me try and explain it again.

        Theme kw - this is THE keyword that we're trying to rank the site for. Remember, we are small dudes that will be satisfied if we get ranked #1 for just one keyword. Ranking #1 for multiple competitive keywords is beyond our capacity. We'd rather get ranked for that 1 kw, rather than trying to rank many kw and failing with all. The theme kw is always the same regardless of the page/post we're on for a given site.

        Primary kw - this is the kw that a particular post is optimized for. On the sticky post, the primary kw also happens to be the theme kw. But on all 4 other posts, the primary kw is different from the theme kw, but is related to it. However, a primary kw may have a higher search volume than our theme kw. We didn't target this (in spite of the higher search volume) because it had higher competition.

        Secondary kw - these are there simply for LSI purposes; to tell Google that we're about a group of related kw. A secondary kw on one post may be a primary kw on another post.

        You will have 1 theme kw, 5 primary kw (the way I'm structuring my sites) and many secondary kw. However, some people believe that you shouldn't go to town with secondary kw that Google gets confused as to what the theme is really about. That's why sometimes increasing the post/page number can result in loss of rankings according to some people. The idea is that, when you have few posts, the site is tight and focused; but when you keep adding more and more stuff, the site may lose that focus and SEs become confused. I don't have enough experience to say if this is true or not. However, recently I started doing an experiment where I'm adding additional posts (to the original 5) to a site that is already ranked #2 (actually #2 and #3 - one of those double listings) and I want to see if I lose rankings. Even if I did, it would be difficult to come to a conclusion with just one site. Other factors might have given rise to change of rankings.

        So yes, ddBoom, you got it right except the search volume. Thanks man!
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        • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
          Well that cleared it up even more for me. Thanks Chucky!
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Yusuf
    wow !

    lot of content here. i don't need buy any WSO. just read this whole thread
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  • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
    Hi ddBoom,

    no you're a big help =)
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  • Profile picture of the author EdgarOchoa
    Awesome!

    Very inspiring. And one of the best detailed information out there!
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  • Profile picture of the author fated82
    Hi Chucky....very inspiring post. I am just wondering, how long do you take from $0 - 6 figure?

    And do you do it entirely on building niche sites and affiliate programs?
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    • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
      Thanks Chucky, that clear the sky for me.

      I am starting a niche site with your instruction, I'm going to see how it goes. After reading your post, now I know what I am doing wrong with my other sites that didn't rank at all.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

        Thanks Chucky, that clear the sky for me.

        I am starting a niche site with your instruction, I'm going to see how it goes. After reading your post, now I know what I am doing wrong with my other sites that didn't rank at all.
        Sounds great! All the best!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by fated82 View Post

      Hi Chucky....very inspiring post. I am just wondering, how long do you take from $0 - 6 figure?

      And do you do it entirely on building niche sites and affiliate programs?
      I built my first website in Feb 2008, first sale in April (from Clickbank), about $2000 in 2008, ~ 20,000 in 2009 and 2010 was the year!

      Yes all are niche sites and affiliate programs. No products of my own. Also not a penny from the IM niche.
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      • Profile picture of the author fated82
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        I built my first website in Feb 2008, first sale in April (from Clickbank), about $2000 in 2008, ~ 20,000 in 2009 and 2010 was the year!

        Yes all are niche sites and affiliate programs. No products of my own. Also not a penny from the IM niche.
        Nice....So that means by the first year you can make about a full time income and start scaling from there?

        I am also starting to build niche sites....Hope I can make a full time income by end of this year
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  • Profile picture of the author zackick
    That is really detail explaining about your 5 figure way. for backlink, did you search for gov or edu link?

    market samurai did you ever experience this? I have successfully generate lot of keyword and I want to analyze them so I click analyze keyword button. It all went to filter out, I not setting any filter yet. How could I pick any gold nugget keyword to target?

    If you want detail what happen you could read in thread I open. This is exactly happen on me, not sure did happen on anyone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
    Chucky, another great post from you about the spinning articles. I thought I knew "enough" but boy I was wrong after reading it. Thank YOU! Now I know what to do =) I don't know how many thank you I'll be saying on your thread haha.
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    • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
      I'm happy to report that I made my first clickbank sale using chuckys method. I launched my site on Tuesday and got my first sale this morning. I'm far from 6 figures but it's a start. I haven't even started back linking yet! thanks chucky!
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

        I'm happy to report that I made my first clickbank sale using chuckys method. I launched my site on Tuesday and got my first sale this morning. I'm far from 6 figures but it's a start. I haven't even started back linking yet! thanks chucky!
        This is AWESOME news man!

        You should get ALL the credit because you TOOK ACTION. Reading my thread and saying 'Great job Chucky, I'm going to join your club" is one thing and what you did is one thing.

        Care to elaborate? What was the search volume for the kw you picked? What was like the competition? What rankings did you obtain without backlinking at the time of making the sale? etc.

        Also, do you mind if I put your testimonial on the first page of the thread so that more people will be encouraged to not only read but to actually take action?

        Thanks man, you gave a good start to my Sunday!
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        • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          This is AWESOME news man!

          You should get ALL the credit because you TOOK ACTION. Reading my thread and saying 'Great job Chucky, I'm going to join your club" is one thing and what you did is one thing.

          Care to elaborate? What was the search volume for the kw you picked? What was like the competition? What rankings did you obtain without backlinking at the time of making the sale? etc.

          Also, do you mind if I put your testimonial on the first page of the thread so that more people will be encouraged to not only read but to actually take action?

          Thanks man, you gave a good start to my Sunday!
          Hey Chucky, I figured you'd like some feedback since there hasn't been any as of yet.

          Your blueprint helped me mostly with how to properly develop a landing page for SEO. You've put all of the puzzle pieces together for us all. I've been researching LP SEO for a few weeks now and your method simply summed up all of the best practices into a working method.

          So I used your methods for developing my page and content for my keywords. However, I used Andrew Hansen & Josh Stanton's Elite Niche Research methods for finding my niche. His method is slightly different than yours. For example, my theme keyword only gets 2,400 "broad" searches a month. Yes, thats it BUT it's an extremely targeted product name buying keyword and Andrew states that the Keyword tools can very WILDLY in terms of traffic. My theme keyword also has 4 other secondary keyword. Some where only found using Google Suggest. In terms of competition, Elite Research only cares about the 10th position's back links count, etc. I did take some of Chuck's suggestions into consideration here as well such as on-page seo competition.

          Basically, I literally just launched my site Tuesday night with my first article. Then on Wed I posted my second article. Then I made sure Wordpress pinged my articles to Ping-o-matic, I also use Profit Instruments Quick Index, submitted my sitemap to Google Webmaster Tools, and posted a link to Digg.

          Some of my pages ranked 5 and 7 for a couple secondary, low competition keywords. Once I was indexed, I converted my links to my affiliate links. Fri night I posted my third article. The sale came Fri night...

          I literally only have 3 clicks on my affiliate links and 1 sale. Talk about conversion rate!

          The conversion came in on long tail keyword that I didn't even target. My theme keyword isn't even ranking yet!

          So that's my story so far. Yes, I TOOK ACTION, but I also think I got lucky... but we are targeting buying keywords! And my site is ranking for a lot of long tailed buying keywords.

          My next steps are to do a few more high PR back links to my money site and theme keyword article to get it ranking until my site ages a little longer before I start really hammering it with back links. In the mean time, I figured I'd post some articles to Ezine and once those are accepted, I'll hammer on the ezine articles with back links.

          Sure Chucky, go right ahead and post my testimonial! Thanks again for making it easier to take action!
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          • Profile picture of the author Chucky
            Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

            Hey Chucky, I figured you'd like some feedback since there hasn't been any as of yet.

            Indeed, much appreciated

            Your blueprint helped me mostly with how to properly develop a landing page for SEO. You've put all of the puzzle pieces together for us all. I've been researching LP SEO for a few weeks now and your method simply summed up all of the best practices into a working method.

            LP SEO? Never heard of it! Is it this? LP SEO - A Good SEO Strategy Makes it Easy to Score | Logical Position They don't seem to offer a course though

            So I used your methods for developing my page and content for my keywords. However, I used Andrew Hansen & Josh Stanton's Elite Niche Research methods for finding my niche. His method is slightly different than yours. For example, my theme keyword only gets 2,400 "broad" searches a month. Yes, thats it BUT it's an extremely targeted product name buying keyword and Andrew states that the Keyword tools can very WILDLY in terms of traffic. My theme keyword also has 4 other secondary keyword. Some where only found using Google Suggest. In terms of competition, Elite Research only cares about the 10th position's back links count, etc. I did take some of Chuck's suggestions into consideration here as well such as on-page seo competition.

            I actually bought Elite Niche Research after reading a few reviews from respected warriors (if I remember right Jeremy Kelsall gave a good review - may be in his blog if it wasn't on WF). But never really got to reading it. I think it was sometime just before Christmas the course was launched and I got busy and didn't remember until you mentioned it and .

            Gonna read it as soon as I find some time. As I also emphasized, picking the right market is everything. Fortunately back in 2008, I picked a good market completely by fluke. If it wasn't for that good luck, I would have given up IM. I doubt it, but never know


            Basically, I literally just launched my site Tuesday night with my first article. Then on Wed I posted my second article. Then I made sure Wordpress pinged my articles to Ping-o-matic, I also use Profit Instruments Quick Index, submitted my sitemap to Google Webmaster Tools, and posted a link to Digg.

            Some of my pages ranked 5 and 7 for a couple secondary, low competition keywords. Once I was indexed, I converted my links to my affiliate links. Fri night I posted my third article. The sale came Fri night...

            Wow! You beat me there my friend! Never had such a quick sale after setting up my sites in my IM carrier so far. Now let's hope you beat my other IM milestones as well.

            I literally only have 3 clicks on my affiliate links and 1 sale. Talk about conversion rate!

            The conversion came in on long tail keyword that I didn't even target. My theme keyword isn't even ranking yet!

            That is awesome, you know what, if this kw continues to be a good one, and if you don't get #1 for that, it might not be a bad idea to build a new site making it your theme kw. Since it's a LTKW, chances are that the EMD is available.

            So that's my story so far. Yes, I TOOK ACTION, but I also think I got lucky... but we are targeting buying keywords! And my site is ranking for a lot of long tailed buying keywords.

            Sure we need that little bit of luck. The thing is, when you keep on doing stuff, you're going to strike that luck sooner or later. For example, when I was submitting articles to all kinds of directories, I found a gold mine that ranks on the first page very easily. I wouldn't have found out had I not built links to my articles. The goal was not to make them rank, but purely to strengthen the backlinks. That directory was AWESOME till the Google Farmer Update

            My next steps are to do a few more high PR back links to my money site and theme keyword article to get it ranking until my site ages a little longer before I start really hammering it with back links. In the mean time, I figured I'd post some articles to Ezine and once those are accepted, I'll hammer on the ezine articles with back links.

            In these initial stages, just build GOOD links and feel free to build tons of low quality links to them. Article Marketing Robot is great for strengthening Tier 1 backlinks. No way you will get sand boxed doing that. Be consistent. Press releases are also great in these initial stages.

            Sure Chucky, go right ahead and post my testimonial! Thanks again for making it easier to take action!
            Thanks man! Much appreciated and I'm sure it will motivate others to take action as well!
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            • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
              Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

              LP SEO? Never heard of it! Is it this?
              Sorry about the abbreviation, I was referring to landing page seo.

              Check out Elite Niche Research. It's a no non-sense approach to keyword research. Matter a fact, he doesn't even use fancy software to find and evaluate keywords. He just uses Google Keyword Tool and Firefox SEO plugin. The meat of his product is in the very last steps where he gives you 21 ways to finding a niche using his method. Some golden nuggets in there.

              Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

              That is awesome, you know what, if this kw continues to be a good one, and if you don't get #1 for that, it might not be a bad idea to build a new site making it your theme kw. Since it's a LTKW, chances are that the EMD is available.
              Hmmm... I'll keep an eye on the converting keyword then. If I seem to get some more traffic from it, I'll take your advice and build it out.

              Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

              In these initial stages, just build GOOD links and feel free to build tons of low quality links to them. Article Marketing Robot is great for strengthening Tier 1 backlinks. No way you will get sand boxed doing that. Be consistent. Press releases are also great in these initial stages.
              Will do! I'll also checkout press releases. I was looking into RSS feeds. This is where you build a RSS feed of all of your articles links and/or other links and submit them to RSS directories..... yeah, i've been eying Scrapebox

              Thanks again and I'll post any further developments on my side as I continue to use your method.
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            • Profile picture of the author maverick4u
              I see that you too are from central Illinois. (I'm from Bloomington) You say a good part of your income comes from Amazon. Have you found a way around the new Illinois tax law hat caused Amazon to pull their associates program from the state?
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              • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post

                Dang it, it just kills me how much money I've spent on marketers while trying to find the detailed information I needed that Chucky, thanks to his great big heart, has given here freely.

                If you are a college student, I'm old enough to be your mama...wish I could bake you a big batch of cookies!
                Well I'm not exactly a college student Already have an MS - so you're probably not old enough to be my mama.... still I won't mind those cookies

                All the best to you Catherine; don't hesitate to ask any questions you may come across

                Originally Posted by maverick4u View Post

                I see that you too are from central Illinois. (I'm from Bloomington) You say a good part of your income comes from Amazon. Have you found a way around the new Illinois tax law hat caused Amazon to pull their associates program from the state?
                Yup, did the same as warrior JRCarson did (see first post on page 4 of this thread) I still haven't swapped the affy links though; God it's already 11th and I've only got like 3 nights to do it.

                Good luck!

                Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

                Will do! I'll also checkout press releases. I was looking into RSS feeds. This is where you build a RSS feed of all of your articles links and/or other links and submit them to RSS directories..... yeah, i've been eying Scrapebox

                Will be sending you a PM on this

                Thanks again and I'll post any further developments on my side as I continue to use your method.
                Thanks man, much appreciated! Keep posting your progress and all the best!
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                • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
                  BAM! Another sale! That's 2 sales in the first 6 days of launching my site!

                  Here's some proof:

                  CB Sales



                  Google Analytics (April 5th was launch. Previous traffic was me working)



                  Yes, my site is only getting 4-6 visits a day and I have 2 sales! Crazy!

                  Like Chucky pointed out on his very first post here, it all boils down to your keyword research. I laser targeted a buying keyword. I'm actually ranking for extremely long tailed buying phases that people are using to make a purchase. Even though I wrote nice long copy for my site, the people coming to my site are already in buying mode which is why I'm experiencing an insane conversion rate.

                  Moving forward, I'm slowly building some high PR backlinks to my individual page posts so I can rank my site for my intented keywords....

                  With my profits so far, I decided to order a couple unique articles to be written for ezine posting. I'll spin those using Chucky's method, then blast some other article farms for some link juice. I'll also most likely blast my ezine articles with some back links while I'm waiting for my money site to ferment a little longer before blasting it with back links.

                  One question I did have, shouldn't we be clocking our affiliate links on our money site?
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          • Profile picture of the author arshavin
            I've just finished the your post chucky regarding your spinning methods. That is some serious spinning. Puzzled me haha, but also made me realise that the content needs to be spun so well. How long does it take you to spin a 500 word article? i'm guessing at 3 hours minimum haha

            I have been submitting articles spun to around 60% which is only at word level. What happens now that i have done this? sandboxed?

            I have a plan set out in my mind when it comes to submissions. But i am new to IM so this probably sucks lol. I have 3 articles for 1 product. The first article goes onto my website and promotes the product. The next 2 articles talk about the problem that the product helps.

            All 3 articles will be spun to around 60%. The product promotion article will be dripped via amr for tier 2 links. Article 2 (60% spun) will be submitted to 10 high PR directories. The same goes for article 3 the only difference being to 10 different directories. What do you think of this please chucky?

            This is the best thread ive come across by a mile, thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by zackick View Post

      That is really detail explaining about your 5 figure way. for backlink, did you search for gov or edu link?

      market samurai did you ever experience this? I have successfully generate lot of keyword and I want to analyze them so I click analyze keyword button. It all went to filter out, I not setting any filter yet. How could I pick any gold nugget keyword to target?

      If you want detail what happen you could read in thread I open. This is exactly happen on me, not sure did happen on anyone else.
      I did do .gov and .edu backlinks. I was subscribed to Muz Azar's monthly package where he sent those backlinks. But I wasn't crazy about them, I just built them when I found them.

      Sorry man, not an expert on MS.

      Originally Posted by purplemoonlight View Post

      very inspiring...
      thank you for sharing here. try to get there soon
      That's the attitude! Good luck!

      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      Chucky, another great post from you about the spinning articles. I thought I knew "enough" but boy I was wrong after reading it. Thank YOU! Now I know what to do =) I don't know how many thank you I'll be saying on your thread haha.
      The BIGGEST thank you you can give me is to become successful! All the best to you!
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOpsychic
    mmmmmmmm....good thread
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    • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
      Dang it, it just kills me how much money I've spent on marketers while trying to find the detailed information I needed that Chucky, thanks to his great big heart, has given here freely.

      If you are a college student, I'm old enough to be your mama...wish I could bake you a big batch of cookies!
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  • Profile picture of the author faysal969
    Thank you very much for your nice article. This is really interesting and have many element to learn. Nice work.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMKid
    I couldn't visit the thread in a while. I just went through the content spinning section and that is awesome. I already did some of those, but I did NOT do the paragraph level and sentence level spinning you refer to. It does sound like an extra bit of work.... but I can certainly see why it will give better results from content syndication.

    Thanks again Chucky
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  • Profile picture of the author tayuyaa
    Awesome dude, keep up the good work!!! You have a great ratio that's nice, but be aware that they can refund the product if they dont like it, so stay calm j/k!

    Congrats and thanks for Chucky!!
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    • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
      Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

      Will do! I'll also checkout press releases. I was looking into RSS feeds. This is where you build a RSS feed of all of your articles links and/or other links and submit them to RSS directories..... yeah, i've been eying Scrapebox

      Will be sending you a PM on this
      Hey Chucky... WarriorForum will not allow me to PM you back since I'm below 50 posts! I thought at 15 I would be but only specific people? Weird! Anyways, PM me an email and I'll get back with you. Thanks!


      Originally Posted by tayuyaa View Post

      Awesome dude, keep up the good work!!! You have a great ratio that's nice, but be aware that they can refund the product if they dont like it, so stay calm j/k!

      Congrats and thanks for Chucky!!
      Thanks! Yup, you're right but that goes for any affiliate product returns. Luckily, my vendor has a very low refund rate.
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      • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
        ddBoom, Great job! we are all so proud I would recommend building quality backlinks for your money site. Since we are targeting low competitive keywords, it's not going to be hard to rank #1.

        I am building my 2nd site. Both of my sites already got indexed. And both already in the Google top 100.
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        • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
          Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

          ddBoom, Great job! we are all so proud I would recommend building quality backlinks for your money site. Since we are targeting low competitive keywords, it's not going to be hard to rank #1.

          I am building my 2nd site. Both of my sites already got indexed. And both already in the Google top 100.
          Thanks MaineCoon! Yup thats the plan. I've been sllloooowly building back links from auto approve high PR sites until my site ages a little. Once it ages a few weeks, I'll hammer it with links. Chucky is right when he says you have to watch out for the sandbox. He advised about and a number of other guys have too so I'm not taking the chance.

          However, while I'm waiting, I can do some article marketing. Whats great about article marketing is you can back link your articles right away and rank them without the sandbox issue... This way, my site and my ezine/articlebase articles all can rank for total domination!

          Wow, 2 sites!? Did you take Chucky's advice and build out separate sites for some of the keywords? I've been considering this as well..
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          • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
            I am doing each site for each different theme keyword. Once the sites are profitable, i'll build more sites of the same keyword =) I am sure not all of my keywords I've found are very profitable.
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            • Profile picture of the author Chucky
              Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

              BAM! Another sale! That's 2 sales in the first 6 days of launching my site!

              Here's some proof:

              CB Sales



              Google Analytics (April 5th was launch. Previous traffic was me working)



              Yes, my site is only getting 4-6 visits a day and I have 2 sales! Crazy!

              Like Chucky pointed out on his very first post here, it all boils down to your keyword research. I laser targeted a buying keyword. I'm actually ranking for extremely long tailed buying phases that people are using to make a purchase. Even though I wrote nice long copy for my site, the people coming to my site are already in buying mode which is why I'm experiencing an insane conversion rate.

              Moving forward, I'm slowly building some high PR backlinks to my individual page posts so I can rank my site for my intented keywords....

              With my profits so far, I decided to order a couple unique articles to be written for ezine posting. I'll spin those using Chucky's method, then blast some other article farms for some link juice. I'll also most likely blast my ezine articles with some back links while I'm waiting for my money site to ferment a little longer before blasting it with back links.

              One question I did have, shouldn't we be clocking our affiliate links on our money site?
              Congrats Man! BOOM's Da Man!! Keep up the good work. This is just what you needed. Now just multiply your goals by 1000X whatever they were before you made those sales.

              As for cloaking, it's not ultra-necessary. There might be some niches where the visitors will have no idea about affiliate marketing and cloaked or not it won't matter. But if you're in the IM niche, your visitors may hover over your links, see that they are affiliate links and try to 'steal your commissions'.

              Sure, doing a proper cloaking is important regardless of the niche, for aesthetics so that you will have a nice looking URL like mysite.com/productname instead of the ugly CB links.

              I think about half my links are cloaked (none of the amazon ones are cloaked because there are too many products that I promote on each site). I use a paid server based script known as 'Phantom Link Cloaker'. Before that I used to use a simple php redirect script - I can't find that

              A free plugin that would cloak links that I've tried to use in the past is 'pretty links'. There might be better ones not sure. I wasn't particularly happy with it because I felt that it took a few seconds for the redirect and I didn't like that. That's when I bought phantom link cloaker. But haven't used it enough to recommend it.

              Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

              Thanks MaineCoon! Yup thats the plan. I've been sllloooowly building back links from auto approve high PR sites until my site ages a little. Once it ages a few weeks, I'll hammer it with links. Chucky is right when he says you have to watch out for the sandbox. He advised about and a number of other guys have too so I'm not taking the chance.
              Good choice. Look what 0b1 has to say.. that happens sometimes when you build links fast. The sites will ultimately return, but you live on pins until they do

              Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

              However, while I'm waiting, I can do some article marketing. Whats great about article marketing is you can back link your articles right away and rank them without the sandbox issue... This way, my site and my ezine/articlebase articles all can rank for total domination!
              This is NOT what I recommend. The articles are purely for 'backlinking purposes' and not 'traffic purposes'. It is OK to try to rank articles if the kw is hypercompetitive and it's extremely difficult to rank your own domains. But in your case, since you are able to rank for the kw, I would not try to rank my Ezine/ArticleBase article.

              I would use a generic title and NOT optimize the article body too well for the kw. The only thing I would optimize is the resource box anchor text. You don't want the article to overtake your site.

              Article directories have so many links and you'll only get 20-40% of the readers coming through to your site. There are so many ads and other articles that they can click on. In contrast when you rank your own domain name, all the visitors are yours.

              However, if you're trying to rank for a hypercompetitive kw, then it's OK to try to rank the article. But after the Google Farmer update, I don't know how effective ranking articles is. I've seen articles that got over 1000 views/day going down hill lately.

              Hope this makes sense.

              Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

              I am doing each site for each different theme keyword. Once the sites are profitable, i'll build more sites of the same keyword =) I am sure not all of my keywords I've found are very profitable.
              Good work MaineCoon, sounds like you're on track! Good luck!
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              • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
                Hey Chucky... I tried to PM you back, but Warrior Forum will not let me until I have 50 posts.

                PM me your email or some email and I'll reply.
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                • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                  Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

                  Hey Chucky... I tried to PM you back, but Warrior Forum will not let me until I have 50 posts.

                  PM me your email or some email and I'll reply.
                  OK buddy! Done!
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                  • Profile picture of the author Robster0880
                    this is a very solid plan. The best is how you talk about the negatives that are never addressed on the paid products. Real Life IM experience I may say.
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                  • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
                    Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

                    OK buddy! Done!
                    Thanks, check your email when you get a chance!
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      • Profile picture of the author mydestiny
        Hi Chucky,
        Thanks for your valuable efforts. I am a newbie and honestly I was a bit down reading all of it and trying to digest and unlock all abreviations and even understand the SEO language. my Q is do we as newbie have to know all this upfront to start to make it online? I know I can't gain traffic if folks don't find my website however, I am really struggling to be able to get it all, what is the most crucial one or 2 methods mentioned in your post that we should concentrate in whenwe just starting?
        Thank you for your help.
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  • Profile picture of the author 0b1
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    Hi Chucky,

    This is indeed a great thread with very detailed informative posts! Guys I hope you are all paying attention here, Ive paid alot of money on WSO or courses and chucky is giving it all for free!

    ALSO notice how he creates his post, such a detailed person, and the way he replies to you guys. No wonder his successful, he has the right attitude.

    Im not new to IM, I made some money here and there trough various methods that dont require sites, but only recently (Early Feb) i've started to build sniper sites and ranking them slowly. I wanted to build a sustainable long term income with niche websites

    Anyways Chucky or anyone , I have a little Google dance Dilemma here!
    I recently made a sale for one of my site and it was only in the bottom of page 1 and a few other keywords hovering on page 2 and 3, and thinking that I would love to rank it higher I did an AMR ( article marketing Robot) article blast and the next thing you know my site is no longer in page 1,2 or 3 for my main keywords! ( it has been like that for 2 weeks now!) I know its the Google dance but for how long I have no Idea..

    Do you have a strategy to get DANCE faster so i can stabilize my rankings?
    I'm Terribly upset because I see potential in this site!, and recently I had another 2 sites getting a couple of sales (again they are hovering around page 1- 3) Most of my traffic come from LTKW and I'm a little afraid to do any SERIOUS backlinking , look at what happened to my other site.

    So what do you reckon is good for new sites like mine? how many links? What type of links?

    Hope to hear from you soon!

    -Brandon
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  • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
    Hey Chucky,

    My sites are doing the Google Dance on the SERP. Any input on that? =)

    I have not build any backlinks yet, because I am planning to wait for a few weeks. Do you think building backlinks will help?
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    • Profile picture of the author 0b1
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      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      Hey Chucky,

      My sites are doing the Google Dance on the SERP. Any input on that? =)

      I have not build any backlinks yet, because I am planning to wait for a few weeks. Do you think building backlinks will help?

      Hi Chucky same thing as MaineCoon

      Any input on this, Im very new to Website SEO-ing

      Thanks once again!

      -Brandon
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by mydestiny View Post

      Hi Chucky,
      Thanks for your valuable efforts. I am a newbie and honestly I was a bit down reading all of it and trying to digest and unlock all abreviations and even understand the SEO language. my Q is do we as newbie have to know all this upfront to start to make it online? I know I can't gain traffic if folks don't find my website however, I am really struggling to be able to get it all, what is the most crucial one or 2 methods mentioned in your post that we should concentrate in whenwe just starting?
      Thank you for your help.
      Hey,

      I totally understand where you're coming from. We've all been there and none of us learned everything in one day.

      I think you should break them down to components like
      • kw research
      • on page seo
      • off page seo
      Then spend a few days on each topic. Climbing Mount Everest begins with the first step you take!

      If you ask me what the most vital parts you should do I would say something like this.
      • Identify a laser targeted killer buying phrase - for example instead of targeting something like 'natural cures for acne' target something like 'acne free in 3 days review'. People who search for acne solutions using various generic phrases like 'how to cure acne', 'natural acne cures' etc. will go to affiliate websites and they will be shown this product 'acne free in 3 days'. Then some people will want to find out if this is a scam or a genuine product. They will type on to the Google search bar various search phrases like 'acne free in 3 days review', 'review of acne free in 3 days' etc. You can find out these buy going to Google Adwords kw tool. This particular product may be too competitive. You can go to ClickBank marketplace and search for products with decent gravity and then select a GOOD product (not some get rich quick scam). Then do the competition analysis etc. as I said.
      • Choose a kw with very low competition. Unfortunately these will also have low search volume. But that's OK. You want to learn the ropes and build some confidence. If your market analysis was correct, not only will you get top rankings but it will also be a winner $$ wise.
      • If you get this part right, you can do your on page and off page SEO slowly with time
      • If you get the kw research part wrong, you can spend loads of time/money on SEO and still get no rankings
      • Then you have to build your site. Make the first page. There will be deficiencies. Take them one at a time. Conquer them one by one. The title, H tags, meta tags, interlinking - one at a time.
      • Also start building links simultaneously - slowly but steadily and consistently. Write an article a day and submit to article directories or web 2.0 sites. Then book mark these properties.
      • For a low competition phrase - this should already give you good results
      Hope that helps, wish I could do more!

      Originally Posted by 0b1 View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      This is indeed a great thread with very detailed informative posts! Guys I hope you are all paying attention here, Ive paid alot of money on WSO or courses and chucky is giving it all for free!

      ALSO notice how he creates his post, such a detailed person, and the way he replies to you guys. No wonder his successful, he has the right attitude.

      Thank you Brandon, appreciate those words

      Im not new to IM, I made some money here and there trough various methods that dont require sites, but only recently (Early Feb) i've started to build sniper sites and ranking them slowly. I wanted to build a sustainable long term income with niche websites

      Anyways Chucky or anyone , I have a little Google dance Dilemma here!
      I recently made a sale for one of my site and it was only in the bottom of page 1 and a few other keywords hovering on page 2 and 3, and thinking that I would love to rank it higher I did an AMR ( article marketing Robot) article blast and the next thing you know my site is no longer in page 1,2 or 3 for my main keywords! ( it has been like that for 2 weeks now!) I know its the Google dance but for how long I have no Idea..

      Do you have a strategy to get DANCE faster so i can stabilize my rankings?
      I'm Terribly upset because I see potential in this site!, and recently I had another 2 sites getting a couple of sales (again they are hovering around page 1- 3) Most of my traffic come from LTKW and I'm a little afraid to do any SERIOUS backlinking , look at what happened to my other site.

      So what do you reckon is good for new sites like mine? how many links? What type of links?

      Hope to hear from you soon!

      -Brandon
      This has happened to me plenty of times and I agree it is scary. For me some sites have been dancing for over a month. Some just came by themselves, for others I had to do stuff. For the latter group, I like to believe that the stuff that I deliberately did brought it back, but I really don't know if they just randomly returned or not.

      If the sites are brand new, I wouldn't worry too much; but since they are not really brand new from what I understand from your post, I can't give you a concrete answer.

      Anyways, here's something that happened to a site of mine close to thanksgiving of 2009.

      This site is what showed me the potential of black Friday back in 2008. I got ~1000 visitors on Black Friday to this site and made me like $35 in Adsense. And it was sitting at #8 for the theme kw. Then in 2009, I brought it up to like #4 and it wouldn't climb beyond that. Anyway, it sat there steadily from let's say March 2009 to October 2009. I didn't add any content, I didn't build too many links (may not have built any fresh links at all during the latter part of this period) and the site suddenly disappears. Not a drop, just disappears.

      At this time, I was a member of StomperNet and I asked people around there what I should do. They told me that I should give it FRESH content and FRESH backlinks. I remember submitting 5 Ezine Articles (not all at once - may have spread them out through like 2 weeks) and also another 5 posts of content to the site. And even before I finished adding these 10 pieces of content, the site came back to where it was.

      Now was this an example of the stereotypical Google dance? I don't know. People usually associate the dance to new sites, but my older sites have also danced.

      I have seen many warriors also say just keep building links and don't worry about the dance. I think the only thing you can do is add new content and 'higher quality' backlinks. Also, these backlinks should be not only at the homepage but internal pages as well.

      I'm afraid this is all the advice I can give with the little experience I've had.

      Here is another example that may give you some hope. I had another site (still have) that would dance (disappear) even with 1 single new link I build. It was absolutely frustrating. The moment I stop building links, it comes back up but the moment I start it disappears. This site had about 40 posts of content and I had just given up on it. I had no idea what was happening with this one.

      However, with every dance (I would say about 30-40 dances over 3 years) it was increasing in rankings for the theme kw (an EMD). Then all of a sudden I noticed that it was ranking for multiple kw like an authority site. Many #1, #2 and other rankings on pages 1, 2, and 3. A lot of traffic through LTKW. And now, I can build 1000 links in one day and it doesn't dance a single bit. It ranks like #14 for a super competitive phrase and it drops as far as #21 sometimes. But I won't call this the typical dance where the site disappears.

      So there it is, after all that dancing Google made it an authority site. So dancing may be a good thing.

      Here is something that may scare you a bit. After the Farmer update, I see many posts on WF where people say their sites have disappeared. So these days, when a site disappears just like that I don't know if it a sign of dancing or if it is a sign of being affected by the Panda update.

      Whenever I use AMR, I schedule it to do like 100 submission/24 hours. And these are relatively mature sites and they can withstand that.

      In conclusion, add QUALITY fresh content + build white hat backlinks slowly and steadily + pray

      If anybody else has some other tips, I would also love to learn their suggestions.

      Good luck!

      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      Hey Chucky,

      My sites are doing the Google Dance on the SERP. Any input on that? =)

      I have not build any backlinks yet, because I am planning to wait for a few weeks. Do you think building backlinks will help?
      Since I know for sure that your sites are brand new, I wouldn't worry at all. Just give them one or two new 500 word posts 1 week or even 10 days apart and they will come back stronger than they were before. Just make sure the content is original, unique, have one or two outgoing links to authority sites (don't worry about no following them yet) in your niche and have internal links to posts already posted.

      Good luck! Also read the answer I gave Brandon although your situation is different from his
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  • Profile picture of the author 0b1
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    Hi Chucky, thank you so much once again for your replies, very very valuable indeed.

    Chucky I believe my sites are considered "brand new" all 5 domains I just got them around February this year. lol. Sry If i didnt made it clear enough so what you said to mainecoon may apply to me as well .

    I have been seeing lotsa threads lately since the recent Google update and im sure its not because of that.

    some sites even got De-listed, especially those article directory type sites, but my sites are still indexed, when i do a Google search site:mysite.com its there . SO no worries

    I'll try to add more content and push some high authority backlink to see if it works.

    Also chucky, I would say your a successful affiliate now, are you planning to get into the product creation field? ( not necessarily Make money online niche).I truly believe every affiliate marketer will earn their biggest earnings yet trough their own products.

    NOTE TO EVERYONE: If you find chucky's post valuable please hit the thanks button in his post! IF he does ever release a WSO the number of thanks shows credibility and will help him

    -Brandon
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    • Profile picture of the author Tim_Hawksworth
      I have read pretty much the whole thread and really appreciate
      all the effort gone into sharing this info.

      I'd like to ask a couple of questions and I hope
      they havn't been covered yet.

      1) All other things being equal, how much difference is the value that
      Google gives to .com vs .net vs .org ? ( and .info ) ?

      2) I see that you advocate using plurals in the domain name
      eg "kidskaraukemachinesreviews" so that we pick up a search of both the singular and the plural.

      If that logic is true, and our keyphrase is "kids karauke machines"

      why not go for : kidskaraukemachin.com ? ( no last "e" )

      You see that should catch both singular and plural and it would be available

      Has anyone tried this ?
      Would it work ?
      How do you think G would rank it ?


      .
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      • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
        Originally Posted by Tim_Hawksworth View Post

        I have read pretty much the whole thread and really appreciate
        all the effort gone into sharing this info.

        I'd like to ask a couple of questions and I hope
        they havn't been covered yet.

        1) All other things being equal, how much difference is the value that
        Google gives to .com vs .net vs .org ? ( and .info ) ?

        2) I see that you advocate using plurals in the domain name
        eg "kidskaraukemachinesreviews" so that we pick up a search of both the singular and the plural.

        If that logic is true, and our keyphrase is "kids karauke machines"

        why not go for : kidskaraukemachin.com ? ( no last "e" )

        You see that should catch both singular and plural and it would be available

        Has anyone tried this ?
        Would it work ?
        How do you think G would rank it ?


        .
        It simply looks weird and would kinda make me not trust it. I would just add an extra letter instead of doing that.
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        • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
          i actually tried this for a popular term that contains double s
          buying a cheap domain with only one s.

          and we're ranking very nicely for our k-dubs.
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  • Profile picture of the author seye
    hey any one, i copied my amazon link into my blog but each time i click it it says 404 error does any one know how to go about doing it properly
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by 0b1 View Post

      Hi Chucky, thank you so much once again for your replies, very very valuable indeed.

      Chucky I believe my sites are considered "brand new" all 5 domains I just got them around February this year. lol. Sry If i didnt made it clear enough so what you said to mainecoon may apply to me as well .

      I have been seeing lotsa threads lately since the recent Google update and im sure its not because of that.

      some sites even got De-listed, especially those article directory type sites, but my sites are still indexed, when i do a Google search site:mysite.com its there . SO no worries

      I'll try to add more content and push some high authority backlink to see if it works.

      Also chucky, I would say your a successful affiliate now, are you planning to get into the product creation field? ( not necessarily Make money online niche).I truly believe every affiliate marketer will earn their biggest earnings yet trough their own products.

      NOTE TO EVERYONE: If you find chucky's post valuable please hit the thanks button in his post! IF he does ever release a WSO the number of thanks shows credibility and will help him

      -Brandon
      Product creation is indeed the next step, but not sure how/when that will happen. Once I was reading (or listening to) Terry Kyle and he said that his affiliate commissions have never exceeded 10% of his total income. I was like OMG - if my income distribution had the same ratio, I'd be making 7 figures

      Originally Posted by Tim_Hawksworth View Post

      I have read pretty much the whole thread and really appreciate
      all the effort gone into sharing this info.

      I'd like to ask a couple of questions and I hope
      they havn't been covered yet.

      1) All other things being equal, how much difference is the value that
      Google gives to .com vs .net vs .org ? ( and .info ) ?

      2) I see that you advocate using plurals in the domain name
      eg "kidskaraukemachinesreviews" so that we pick up a search of both the singular and the plural.

      If that logic is true, and our keyphrase is "kids karauke machines"

      why not go for : kidskaraukemachin.com ? ( no last "e" )

      You see that should catch both singular and plural and it would be available

      Has anyone tried this ?
      Would it work ?
      How do you think G would rank it ?


      .
      About different TLDs, sorry I can't tell you anything conclusive. I have #1s from all 3 TLDs. To give you a statistically correct answer, one would need to test multiple domains with same competition, same on page and off page optimization etc. etc. I would not believe anybody giving an answer without doing such an experiment.

      why not go for : kidskaraukemachin.com ? ( no last "e" )

      machine is the correct spelling. I don't see why machin would rank for either machine or machines. Probably would rank for "kids karaoke machin": that's if you're trying to catch 'mis-spelt traffic'.

      just my opinion, have no experience with it

      Originally Posted by pack12 View Post

      It simply looks weird and would kinda make me not trust it. I would just add an extra letter instead of doing that.
      Agreed!

      Originally Posted by seye View Post

      hey any one, i copied my amazon link into my blog but each time i click it it says 404 error does any one know how to go about doing it properly
      I haven't watched this video, but this one or other related videos may show you exactly how to do it
      Good luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
        Hey chucky... I replied to your email...
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      • Profile picture of the author BigFredLim
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        Product creation is indeed the next step, but not sure how/when that will happen. Once I was reading (or listening to) Terry Kyle and he said that his affiliate commissions have never exceeded 10% of his total income. I was like OMG - if my income distribution had the same ratio, I'd be making 7 figures
        Hi Chucky

        What was the training from Terry Kyle? Is it the Backlinks Hydra or something else? Keen to know more.

        BigFred
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        • Profile picture of the author Tim_Hawksworth
          Hi,

          Thanks for your reply to my question:

          why not go for : kidskaraukemachin.com ? ( no last "e" )

          machine is the correct spelling. I don't see why machin would rank for either machine or machines. Probably would rank for "kids karaoke machin": that's if you're trying to catch 'mis-spelt traffic'.

          just my opinion, have no experience with it
          You are no doubt correct - the search results wouldn't be much use if
          "kidskaraukemachin.com" came high up is a "kids karauke machine" search

          Like others have said.

          Thanks for sharing

          .
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        • Profile picture of the author 0b1
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          Originally Posted by BigFredLim View Post

          Hi Chucky

          What was the training from Terry Kyle? Is it the Backlinks Hydra or something else? Keen to know more.

          BigFred

          Hi Big fred,

          yes It is terry kyle's backlink Hydra

          -Brandon
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          • Profile picture of the author Chucky
            Originally Posted by 0b1 View Post

            Hi Big fred,

            yes It is terry kyle's backlink Hydra

            -Brandon
            Thank you Brendon, I still don't remember.
            I was thinking about your suggestion last night, and I forced myself to agree to you but the deadline I gave myself is end of 2013. I'm not chickening out, but I just don't think I can dedicate myself 100% to it before finishing up my graduate studies.
            But I WILL DEFINITELY DO IT and you will get a free review copy provided it ain't on something like how to lose baby fat or how to get rid of cellulitis

            Again, I really appreciate what you said. And this guy here says the same thing http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...le-method.html
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            • Profile picture of the author 0b1
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              Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

              Thank you Brendon, I still don't remember.
              I was thinking about your suggestion last night, and I forced myself to agree to you but the deadline I gave myself is end of 2013. I'm not chickening out, but I just don't think I can dedicate myself 100% to it before finishing up my graduate studies.
              But I WILL DEFINITELY DO IT and you will get a free review copy provided it ain't on something like how to lose baby fat or how to get rid of cellulitis

              Again, I really appreciate what you said. And this guy here says the same thing http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...le-method.html

              Awesome Chucky!

              I know you will shine. I guess for starters you can create your first product in the make money online niche! a WSO maybe? since you are very experienced in this field, content shouldn't be a problem for you at all Then from there try other niches your totally not familiar with. Just a thought, and if you can make your first 6 figures, I don't see why you can't make 7 figures

              -Brandon
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              • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                Originally Posted by 0b1 View Post

                Awesome Chucky!

                if you can make your first 6 figures, I don't see why you can't make 7 figures

                -Brandon
                I am a positive thinker, so it's just a matter of "when" and not "if" in my mind
                And I want it to be the same with everybody else also

                Thanks Brandon!
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          • Profile picture of the author BigFredLim
            Originally Posted by 0b1 View Post

            Hi Big fred,

            yes It is terry kyle's backlink Hydra

            -Brandon

            How do you know? You're not Chucky.

            BigFred
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            • Profile picture of the author 0b1
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              Originally Posted by BigFredLim View Post

              How do you know? You're not Chucky.

              BigFred
              Lol, Because i have Terry kyle's backlink hydra and Terry mentioned that his affiliate earnings never exceeds 10% of his total online income. It was jsut a simple small portion of the PDF where he states that everyone should invest time creating their own products. It got me thinking, after making a "reasonable" passive amount of income online I will get into product creation as well

              -Brandon
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  • Awesome!! Thanks for taking the time to share this post. It's amazing to see when someone who has cracked into the online business world with success and still take the time to step back a bit to help others. I enjoy your posts, thank you so much....
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Update April 13th

    Off page SEO Part 3

    In the first two parts that I wrote about off page SEO, I covered the first 8 sub headlines listed here. Today, I'm going to address the 9th one.
    1. Anchor text hyperlinks vs hard URLs
    2. Link diversity
    3. IP diversity
    4. Link velocity
    5. No follow vs do follow
    6. Indexing/strengthening your backlinks
    7. Going high throughput - automation
    8. Minimizing your footprint
    9. Mimicking the 'natural' situation
    10. How I do it now
    11. How I did it when I got started
    12. Here's a plan

    Natural SEO - Mimicking the 'natural' situation

    Some people may say that what I'm saying here is pure speculation. If I knew the exact Google ranking algorithm, I could have disagreed with them

    More than anything else, it's 'food for thought'; you will agree that at least some of it makes sense and if you are convinced you can try to mimic what I'm calling 'Natural SEO'. You will also realize that whether you agree with me or not, you are already doing it!

    What I'm trying to look at here is the link building patterns that may take place in a world where there would be no internet marketers. I'll try to establish my point using two different examples.

    Example 1

    Let's take the example of a news breaking event like the Tsunami that took place in Japan. Who would talk about it first? Obviously the news stations come first. Then people start talking about it on social networks. People would write on their Face Book walls, will Tweet about it, DIGG them, will discuss it on news sites with links to similar stories, bookmark related stories, recommend them to their friends etc. etc. Then someone will make a video of the devastation and upload it to YouTube. Then someone else will see it and make a video response may be giving a follow up of that. Someone will make a whole YouTube channel covering different areas of the devastation. Someone else will upload another video to MetaCafe so on and on.

    Here is an example of a wordpress.com blog where a person posted some pics and videos on the Tsunami Earthquake/Tsunami Hits Japan - Tsunami Warnings Across The Pacific « Nice Deb If you scroll down you will also see another guy making a comment and giving the link to another site that has similar information. I don't believe either one of them are internet marketers; they're just sharing information. Here is a FB page (Gosh I don't even know if this is a Fan Page or someone's wall - my FB knowledge is zero) on the same topic and you'll see people recommending other blogs, videos news items etc. etc.

    Do you think there's going to be press releases coming out related to the Tsunami? Of course! Check this out Fees Waived for Press Releases About Japan Quake, Tsunami Aid and Rescue Efforts | Beyond PR

    I found all of above sites by doing a simple Google search which means Google indexed them and ranked them.

    Do you see how concepts that I covered earlier like 'link diversity' and 'link velocity' are setting in in a natural scenario?

    Example 2

    Now I'm not saying that Google treats all sites like a news item. If you think of something like a product launch (e.g. iPad 2) also, you will see there are major similarities between that and what you and I do. They will have the keyword "iPad 2" in their URL, in their title, in the first sentence, in the content, as hyperlinks etc. Then there will be press releases announcing the iPad 2, about its technology, the release date, new versions, the new dual core A5 processer, partnerships, the 3G provider for iPad 2 etc. etc. Then the 'tech blogs' will start blogging about them.

    Someone will make a video of it as soon as he unwraps it, people will flock to watch it and leave comments on them. Others will ask questions about certain technical features on various different forums. Another one will say, OK I have done a complete video review of the iPad on my blog - here is the link. Others will write about that video on the FB wall. Others will tweet about it. Others will DIGG that FB Fan Page. But remember, unlike you and I most of these people will be non-IMers.

    This is the 'NATURAL' situation that I was talking about.

    Do you see where I'm going? Do you think you and I can replicate this situation with our niches?

    Do you think Google can neglect you if you mimic some natural SEO?

    In contrast, what would be highly unnatural?

    Ask yourself! And avoid them. Here are some of my thoughts:
    • Doing a one time scrapebox blast of 10000 backlinks
    • Doing a one time article blast using AMR to 3000 article directories
    And then doing nothing for the next month
    • Linking to your money site with 100 different blogs with the same username
    I'm sure you can add another dozen things to this list
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  • Profile picture of the author Pinkysoll
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    Hi Chucky,
    great thread, I'm still reading and digesting all this beautiful info.
    One quick question?
    How do you forward emails from your name@domainname.com email to your regular email?
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    • Profile picture of the author panmaster
      Great thread ! Thanks a lot for the information.
      I hope you keep posting as it's very important for the newbies like me
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by Pinkysoll View Post

      Hi Chucky,
      great thread, I'm still reading and digesting all this beautiful info.
      One quick question?
      How do you forward emails from your name@domainname.com email to your regular email?
      Hey thanks!

      I found this video on YouTube, this may not be the best video out there. But there's bound to be other videos if you keep searching!

      Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author rising_sun
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    Wow !!! huge tips. really useful post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Apollo-Articles
    Hi Chucky,

    Many thanks for your posts! I am reading your tips and incorporating them into a couple of niche sites I already run (I plan to follow the exact system after I have finished the second site).

    I was wondering you recommend a plugin which masks outgoing links, but you also recommend we link out a couple of times each page to authority pages. Do you still mask these authority links?

    Also I am slightly confused over the rewriting articles part, what do you do with the 20 rewrites and which keywords do you use for these?

    Also do you interlink the 5 sites?

    Many thanks Chucky,

    Sam
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    • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
      Originally Posted by Apollo-Articles View Post

      I was wondering you recommend a plugin which masks outgoing links, but you also recommend we link out a couple of times each page to authority pages. Do you still mask these authority links?
      Sam
      Hi Sam, I'm using this wordpress plugin to automatically clock my links. It seems to be working great on my site.

      Link Cloaking Plugin for WordPress | W-Shadow.com

      I'm using the free version for now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by Apollo-Articles View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      Many thanks for your posts! I am reading your tips and incorporating them into a couple of niche sites I already run (I plan to follow the exact system after I have finished the second site).

      I was wondering you recommend a plugin which masks outgoing links, but you also recommend we link out a couple of times each page to authority pages. Do you still mask these authority links?

      Also I am slightly confused over the rewriting articles part, what do you do with the 20 rewrites and which keywords do you use for these?

      Also do you interlink the 5 sites?

      Many thanks Chucky,

      Sam
      Hey, thanks!

      If WP no external links is activated, you don't have to deliberately mask the outgoing links. It will automatically mask them and make them no follow and/or open in new a tab according to the options you pick. If you don't mask them, I recommend you manually add the rel="nofollow" tag to preserve PR.

      If I said link out twice each post, I'm sorry I didn't mean that. I will check and correct that. Linking out twice for the whole site may be sufficient. Either you can do it in text (as an editorial link), in the footer (this is what I've been doing lately) or a separate 'External Links/Recommended reading/Related pages' page.

      I don't know if there is a harm or extra benefit in linking out from each post. If you do do that, make sure you make the anchor text indistinguishable from rest of the text (not blue and underlined and hyperlinked) because if you do that you will run the risk of losing traffic. I don't think you would want that. I can't remember the code from the top of my head, if you do a search on Google for something like 'no style for hyperlink' or whatever, you should find the HTML code to help you with that. If you can't find it, let me know, I can dig it out from a site of mine.

      The 20 rewrites are for 4 sites. 4 of them will be based on the 4 theme kw for each site and the other 16 would be secondary kw for LSI purposes.

      No I don't interlink them. I think interlinking them (randomly) would give the network extra strength but then you would have to have them on separate servers and multiple IP addresses and bla bla bla that I don't know of. If you are interested in such things, I recommend Terry Kyle's Backlinks Hydra. I try not to preach things that I don't practice

      Good luck!
      Chucky
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      • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
        Hey Chucky,

        Thank you for all your advice =) I've been busy working on my 2 sites that I didn't have a chance to post here. I am going to start on my 3rd soon, already purchase another domain.

        My 1st site was at the 90th+ position on Google for weeks now. Today it went from 98th to 37th position =)

        My 2nd site was also at 90th+ position as well for a few days then suddenly disappeared for a week =( I was worried, but today it went from nothing to 48th.

        I started doing backlinking for the 1st site with SEnukeX, (no spamming or blasting) we'll see how it goes.
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        • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
          Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

          Hey Chucky,

          Thank you for all your advice =) I've been busy working on my 2 sites that I didn't have a chance to post here. I am going to start on my 3rd soon, already purchase another domain.

          My 1st site was at the 90th+ position on Google for weeks now. Today it went from 98th to 37th position =)

          My 2nd site was also at 90th+ position as well for a few days then suddenly disappeared for a week =( I was worried, but today it went from nothing to 48th.

          I started doing backlinking for the 1st site with SEnukeX, (no spamming or blasting) we'll see how it goes.
          Hey MaineCoon! senukex?! I'm considering the same program. How are you going about setting it up? I just had a conversation with Chucky about it but I'm curious what your plan of attack is with that program. It looks awesome. Huge time saver but $$$$...
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          • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
            Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

            Hey MaineCoon! senukex?! I'm considering the same program. How are you going about setting it up? I just had a conversation with Chucky about it but I'm curious what your plan of attack is with that program. It looks awesome. Huge time saver but $$$$...
            Well I bought SEnuke and used it for 3 months before SEnukeX came out. It's an awesome program and I did made back the money I spent on SEnuke but I didn't have time to use Senuke and continue to spend $127/month. Damn I work 2 jobs, 6-7 days a week =( if I work IM full time this wouldn't be a problem.

            So SEnukeX came out and I spent 2k on the lifetime License. (Yea I didn't have 127/month but I have 2k spend right? lol), I haven't made back the 2k yet, hopefully with Chucky's strategy + SEnukeX, I will.

            I don't know if they offer the lifetime license anymore, last time I heard was over last saturday or something. Even if you don't, do you have to money to spend $147/month on SEnuke, or the time to use it. Maybe you should wait to start making money first with Chucky's strategy then invest on Senuke.

            Oh, did I went off topic ^-^;; When I bought SenukeX, I bought it under a WF member's affiliate, and he offer bonus to his 52 weeks SEO + Adsense training and SEnuke training. He also nice enough to purchase each of the person who purchased under his affiliate link an advance Senuke training courses which offers webinar on occasion. I can give you forum link where he posted that bonus.

            I am just going to build links with SenukeX and help me rank on Google much faster. and the bonus is well worth it to help me with Senuke and SEO stuff. SenukeX is a powerful program, you can easy abuse it so you have to be very careful. If you do get it, I would do test runs on a Web 2.0 site so you don't get your money site ban =)

            PS: Sorry Chucky for hijacking your thread. Please continue with your lesson =)
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            • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
              Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

              Well I bought SEnuke and used it for 3 months before SEnukeX came out. It's an awesome program and I did made back the money I spent on SEnuke but I didn't have time to use Senuke and continue to spend $127/month. Damn I work 2 jobs, 6-7 days a week =( if I work IM full time this wouldn't be a problem.

              So SEnukeX came out and I spent 2k on the lifetime License. (Yea I didn't have 127/month but I have 2k spend right? lol), I haven't made back the 2k yet, hopefully with Chucky's strategy + SEnukeX, I will.

              I don't know if they offer the lifetime license anymore, last time I heard was over last saturday or something. Even if you don't, do you have to money to spend $147/month on SEnuke, or the time to use it. Maybe you should wait to start making money first with Chucky's strategy then invest on Senuke.

              Oh, did I went off topic ^-^;; When I bought SenukeX, I bought it under a WF member's affiliate, and he offer bonus to his 52 weeks SEO + Adsense training and SEnuke training. He also nice enough to purchase each of the person who purchased under his affiliate link an advance Senuke training courses which offers webinar on occasion. I can give you forum link where he posted that bonus.

              I am just going to build links with SenukeX and help me rank on Google much faster. and the bonus is well worth it to help me with Senuke and SEO stuff. SenukeX is a powerful program, you can easy abuse it so you have to be very careful. If you do get it, I would do test runs on a Web 2.0 site so you don't get your money site ban =)

              PS: Sorry Chucky for hijacking your thread. Please continue with your lesson =)
              MaineCoon, Thanks for the feedback. Yes, it looks like an awesome tool that can do good but also bad. I too was leaning towards the web 2.0 properties juice and Chucky did confirm with that idea on green sites. I was going to try the 14 day trial and try to get enough juice to rank a little higher for conversions. Then take it from there. Keep us posted on how it works with the Chucky method. I'm sure it'll rock.
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            • Profile picture of the author Chucky
              Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

              PS: Sorry Chucky for hijacking your thread. Please continue with your lesson =)
              No worries, you're welcome to add whatever that will be helpful to warriors!
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            • Profile picture of the author 0b1
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              Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post


              So SEnukeX came out and I spent 2k on the lifetime License. (Yea I didn't have 127/month but I have 2k spend right? lol), I haven't made back the 2k yet, hopefully with Chucky's strategy + SEnukeX, I will.

              This is the right mindset to have, avoid monthly payments if your not making money yet! Good thing that you invested in senukeX lifetime, you know now, you have no choice but to make Internet marketing happen for you!
              I wanted to get the lifetime license as well. Well too late for me, they are no longer offering lifetime.. hopefully they will again in the future!


              Maybe you should wait to start making money first with Chucky's strategy then invest on Senuke.
              DDboom there is a 14day free trial if you like for SENUKEX, you may want to give it a shot!
              I personally used Senuke last year, but due to its high monthly fee, I dropped it. Senuke back then was a very good piece of software, no bugs and a pleasure to use, I'm not sure how Senuke X is though, but I'm sure it would be better.

              All the best to you guys
              -Brandon
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  • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
    Hey Chucky, when you get a chance, check your email. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
    Hey Chucky, check ur email, i replied... Man, I'll be glad when I have 50 posts so I can PM.
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  • Profile picture of the author BulkFacebooklikes
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    one hell of a story dude! those facts and figures really pumped me up to do something in my life as well

    I'll definitely try to follow your footsteps..
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  • Profile picture of the author Pinkysoll
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    Thanks for the quick response chucky.
    Still soaking up the info will get to stepping soon.
    I love this forum.
    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author peter800
    thank you for sharing this! most people would have sold this. im going to read over it now
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    • Profile picture of the author sonicadam123
      Thanks for this Chucky, you've spent a lot of time on this, and it's much appreciated and it's going to help me loads
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  • Hey Chucky...I don't think your page 3 link is working? I am trying to follow on with the post but it ends on 2nd April.

    Really enjoying it. Thanks


    EDIT - Not to worry, found it on page 3 of this thread. Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      Well I bought SEnuke and used it for 3 months before SEnukeX came out. It's an awesome program and I did made back the money I spent on SEnuke but I didn't have time to use Senuke and continue to spend $127/month. Damn I work 2 jobs, 6-7 days a week =( if I work IM full time this wouldn't be a problem.

      So SEnukeX came out and I spent 2k on the lifetime License. (Yea I didn't have 127/month but I have 2k spend right? lol), I haven't made back the 2k yet, hopefully with Chucky's strategy + SEnukeX, I will.

      I don't know if they offer the lifetime license anymore, last time I heard was over last saturday or something. Even if you don't, do you have to money to spend $147/month on SEnuke, or the time to use it. Maybe you should wait to start making money first with Chucky's strategy then invest on Senuke.

      Oh, did I went off topic ^-^;; When I bought SenukeX, I bought it under a WF member's affiliate, and he offer bonus to his 52 weeks SEO + Adsense training and SEnuke training. He also nice enough to purchase each of the person who purchased under his affiliate link an advance Senuke training courses which offers webinar on occasion. I can give you forum link where he posted that bonus.

      I am just going to build links with SenukeX and help me rank on Google much faster. and the bonus is well worth it to help me with Senuke and SEO stuff. SenukeX is a powerful program, you can easy abuse it so you have to be very careful. If you do get it, I would do test runs on a Web 2.0 site so you don't get your money site ban =)

      PS: Sorry Chucky for hijacking your thread. Please continue with your lesson =)
      WOW! Your guts is commendable and that's a sure sign of your positive attitude. Congrats! I too was thinking about getting the lifetime license but chickened out in the end

      My SENUKing strategy (part of it)

      Anyways, since I haven't kept my word on the specific way I do my off page SEO, and I can't see me doing it for a while, I thought I'll make a short post at least about how I use SENUKE on new sites.

      I use something like what's shown on this diagram Link Magnet - Download Business

      EDIT: above is not an affiliate link, it's the only image I could find of what I do

      Just once I have used 4 link wheels instead of the 2 as shown by the above diagram. The experts say that the more of these you can make the better.

      Another TIP!

      I have found it increasingly difficult to get these web 2.0 properties indexed inspite of putting original unique content when they have just one page of content and outgoing links to my sites. So what I do now is populate these properties with 2-3 articles without links at first and then upload a 4th article with the outgoing links I want. Before I upload my 4th article, I try to do everything I know to get them indexed (pinging, scrapebox spam, RSS submissions, bookmarking etc. etc.).

      To me, this has been very safe. I usually use a GoArticles article for that intermediate web 2.0 property. The idea is to use a property that has minimal outgoing links so that the maximal amount of juice goes to your site instead of GoArticles home page etc.

      There might be other better properties (with even less outgoing links). On this property, I would put the link to my site, as high up as possible and also use a non-salesy unique article. Once I had GoArticles take down one of my such articles and all the link juice with it . It wouldn't have happened had my article been a good one!

      Another point is to try and use different articles for different link wheels of the same magnet to minimize the foot print.

      I know that's a lot of articles. I use Ultra Spinnable Articles (expensive). For those who don't want to ditch the money, may be you can try to translate articles from English --> French/German etc. --> back to English and then use those for the link wheels. I guess if you sit down for half and hour and do it, you'll get like 20 unique articles that should be sufficient for one such link wheel complex.

      That's all that comes to my mind right now, will update if I remember anything else.

      EDIT Apr 24th

      Once the sites are more mature, I do something like what's shown on the two images from this thread (WSO I used to run long time ago) http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ml#post1623120

      Nowadays I do more of the OPTION 1 than OPTION 2. If I do option 2, it will be more like a link magnet or a incomplete link wheel or randomly connected 'wheel'. Is it effective? Must be because not just people like me, but people of the calibre of Leslie Rhodie, Dan Thies and James Schramko talk about doing such networks (not necessarily the complete wheel).

      Originally Posted by TBInternetMarketing View Post

      Hey Chucky...I don't think your page 3 link is working? I am trying to follow on with the post but it ends on 2nd April.

      Really enjoying it. Thanks


      EDIT - Not to worry, found it on page 3 of this thread. Thanks
      Actually I didn't know how to link to individual posts, I think I found out now and will do that one of these days!

      Glad you're enjoying them!
      Good luck!
      Chucky
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  • Profile picture of the author IMKid
    Thanks again Chucky for the Senuking part. I gave up on this a while ago simply because I couldn't get them indexed. But your strategy just may work. I will admit that it sounds like a bit of work, but no pain no gain right :-)

    Do you always start with Senuking? Is that the first thing you do for a new site?

    Thanks a lot for taking time man!
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    • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
      1st Site:
      Yesterday was climbed from 37th to 12th on Google, then today it's at 11th.

      2nd Site:
      Stayed at 48th.

      The different is, I didn't use SENuke for my 2nd site yet, I don't know if that's the reason. I can't wait to be at the top 3.

      Chucky, thanks for the SEnuke advice =)
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

        1st Site:
        Yesterday was climbed from 37th to 12th on Google, then today it's at 11th.

        2nd Site:
        Stayed at 48th.

        The different is, I didn't use SENuke for my 2nd site yet, I don't know if that's the reason. I can't wait to be at the top 3.

        Chucky, thanks for the SEnuke advice =)
        Congrats MaineCoon! #11 is VERY good! These were the sites that were dancing just 1-2 weeks ago right? My personal advice is 'LESS is MORE' at this stage Strengthening your existing backlinks would be a good option right now to get some link juice flowing through them to your money site. But I know there are plenty of experienced warriors that will disagree with me and say 'Go ahead MaineCoon, blast 3000 links to your site in 1 night'. I just wouldn't do it yet

        All the best! Time to rinse and repeat! Do you have the 'search terms tagging 2' plugin set up? It should (or Google analytics) tell you kw that are already bringing you traffic.

        Chucky
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by IMKid View Post

      Thanks again Chucky for the Senuking part. I gave up on this a while ago simply because I couldn't get them indexed. But your strategy just may work. I will admit that it sounds like a bit of work, but no pain no gain right :-)

      Do you always start with Senuking? Is that the first thing you do for a new site?

      Thanks a lot for taking time man!
      Hey,

      Actually no, I don't think I've ever started my link building with SENUKE. My first step is usually bookmarking. Now I use social ADR but before that I used to use Social Bookmarking Service | Social Bookmarking Links. Social ADR is completely hands off, that's why I prefer it to the latter.

      Another thing that I do in the initial stages is press releases. Once I do these and start ranking that's when I would do SENUKing!

      I have been really tied up with time, I'm not sure when I will be able to do the 'this is how I do it' part.

      I have also seen people say they like their first link to be from a .edu site. I guess the reason behind that is because they want the first impressions on Google to be good. I won't get in to the whole story about 'are .edu links actually X times more valuable than .com links', but what I will say is that it's definitely better to get a link from a .edu site than one from a porn or gambling site as the very first link

      So to summarize, it will be bookmarking (e.g. 300 to the sticky post and 100 to the home page - spread over about 2-3 weeks); press releases (ideally 2 - 3 rounds like 1 - 2 weeks apart; but I usually only manage 1 round of PR submission - still works) followed by SENUKE, mass article distribution and backlinking your backlinks.

      Hope that makes sense.
      Chucky
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      • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        Hey,

        Actually no, I don't think I've ever started my link building with SENUKE. My first step is usually bookmarking. Now I use social ADR but before that I used to use Social Bookmarking Service | Social Bookmarking Links. Social ADR is completely hands off, that's why I prefer it to the latter.

        Chucky
        I was under the impression senuke did social bookmarking as well. Is there a difference between what senuke does and social ADR?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mychelyne
          Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

          I was under the impression senuke did social bookmarking as well. Is there a difference between what senuke does and social ADR?
          I have been using SEO Link robot with some rate of success. It definitely beats paying a monthly fee, is just one time payment.
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          • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
            Originally Posted by Mychelyne View Post

            I have been using SEO Link robot with some rate of success. It definitely beats paying a monthly fee, is just one time payment.
            Thanks for the lead. I just spent the last hour looking this over. The Warrior link is just a 1-time fee? If you go directly, it's $50 some bucks a month. :confused:

            Also, you said some rate of success. How long have you been using it? And how did you use it?

            After researching it, I saw that it does mini-nets, which interests me. It looks like it does something like a service I've been looking at called linkpush.

            Chucky, sorry to fill the forum with software questions that you don't endorse. I wish this forum didn't have a crazy 50 post requirement in order to PM people!!!
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            • Profile picture of the author Mychelyne
              Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

              Thanks for the lead. I just spent the last hour looking this over. The Warrior link is just a 1-time fee? If you go directly, it's $50 some bucks a month. :confused:

              Also, you said some rate of success. How long have you been using it? And how did you use it?

              After researching it, I saw that it does mini-nets, which interests me. It looks like it does something like a service I've been looking at called linkpush.

              Chucky, sorry to fill the forum with software questions that you don't endorse. I wish this forum didn't have a crazy 50 post requirement in order to PM people!!!
              If I am correct, it still one payment of $197. And is definitely worth it. With software like these, you get what you put into it. So, if I have some success is because I only put some effort into to it. You can pretty much do the same things that senuke does (probably less sites though) but I like, it works pretty good, I haven't had any problem with bugs. I use it in conjunction with The Best Spinner and Article Marketing Robot which is also one time fee.
              I have been using the software for about 2 months.
              (didn't mean to hijack the thread, so I will ask a question to Chucky...)
              How do you keep track of the monies that come in? you have money coming from everywhere !!!
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              • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

                I was under the impression senuke did social bookmarking as well. Is there a difference between what senuke does and social ADR?
                A lot of people will tell you there is a difference. With SB 101 and Social ADR, the bookmarking is manual. For every bookmark you do (other members' sites), you get credits and others bookmark yours. They have a free option as well, a max of 400/month I think. But if you don't have time to bookmark manually, you can pay a monthly fee and free members will bookmark your sites to get credit for themselves. The system is something like that.

                It is believed that manual bookmarking is a lot more effective because they come at a natural rate, from multiple different accounts, from different IP addresses (I really don't understand how Google knows which IP address the bookmark came from - I'm just saying what I've seen people saying; doesn't necessarily agree with that one) and also a wide variety of outgoing links (not just to your sites). Also people would type in different things when they bookmark your site increasing variation even more.

                I have never used Book Marking Demon (the most comprehensive automated bookmarking solution from what I know - at least before SENUKE X came), but they say manual is always better than automated solutions like SENUKE and BMD.

                Originally Posted by CarolinaHeart View Post

                wow most i ever made was $94 in one day.. guess i suck
                That's great, if you know how to make $94, it's just a matter of rinsing and repeating. Make a DECISION that you're going to make $200/day by the end of this month, write up a plan, look at it day and night, and just do it! Good luck!

                Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

                Thanks for the lead. I just spent the last hour looking this over. The Warrior link is just a 1-time fee? If you go directly, it's $50 some bucks a month. :confused:

                Also, you said some rate of success. How long have you been using it? And how did you use it?

                After researching it, I saw that it does mini-nets, which interests me. It looks like it does something like a service I've been looking at called linkpush.

                Chucky, sorry to fill the forum with software questions that you don't endorse. I wish this forum didn't have a crazy 50 post requirement in order to PM people!!!
                No problem man! There are many options out there and I'm not saying what I use are the best. I'm just saying what I use work for me. I think this is Steven Hawkin's software. I used his earlier software which was a semi-automated solution for getting profile backlinks. I have not used SEO link robot. BigMike (Incansoft) also has a similar software and it's much cheaper - probably around $27 - one time fee. Magic Submitter is another option ($67 monthly or $250/annual). I have used it for about 2 months and you can schedule and make designs and all. They did that stuff before SENUKE did it. 1 month trial for like $14 I think. I've used it, so it's my 2nd best after SENUKE.

                I've also used RANK BUILDER (got it for much cheaper when the original developer launched it as a WSO - I think it was known as Link Builder Pro) also. It is also very good, but no scheduling.

                The thing is when it comes to fixing bugs and all, nothing beats SENUKE. Doesn't mean other options won't do the job

                Originally Posted by smonty11 View Post

                Chucky,

                I sent you a PM, but if anyone can help, I would be much appreciated. I've implemented this strategy and it's working for me as well. However, I am having problems configuring the theme. Can't seem to find any tutorials either, however I believe the theme is possibly custom for the review site listed in this thread. Any help would be much appreciated, please PM me if you can help. Thanks.
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                Originally Posted by Mychelyne View Post

                If I am correct, it still one payment of $197. And is definitely worth it. With software like these, you get what you put into it. So, if I have some success is because I only put some effort into to it. You can pretty much do the same things that senuke does (probably less sites though) but I like, it works pretty good, I haven't had any problem with bugs. I use it in conjunction with The Best Spinner and Article Marketing Robot which is also one time fee.
                I have been using the software for about 2 months.
                (didn't mean to hijack the thread, so I will ask a question to Chucky...)
                How do you keep track of the monies that come in? you have money coming from everywhere !!!
                No worries Mychelyne.

                How do I keep track?
                It's not such a lot that I'm making. James Schramko makes $5K/day, then there are others that make 50K - 100K/day (these guys do a lot of advertising - but still they surely make more than they spend for advertising - Aymen, the arbitrage conspiracy guy); what I'm making is actually peanuts compared to them .

                I just gave those examples to show that it really is possible to make that kind of money on the internet. We just need to upgrade our thinking; our goals. How can we achieve something if we didn't even know that it was possible?

                If they can do it, so can we
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                • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
                  Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

                  A lot of people will tell you there is a difference. With SB 101 and Social ADR, the bookmarking is manual. For every bookmark you do (other members' sites), you get credits and others bookmark yours. They have a free option as well, a max of 400/month I think. But if you don't have time to bookmark manually, you can pay a monthly fee and free members will bookmark your sites to get credit for themselves. The system is something like that.
                  Got it! That makes total sense! I side with you, manual is probably better. Anything that looks the most natural seems to be the best. I'm hearing this all over the place and it make sense. I'm sure as time goes on, this will become more and more relevant as Google catches onto automation techniques.

                  Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

                  No problem man! There are many options out there and I'm not saying what I use are the best. I'm just saying what I use work for me. I think this is Steven Hawkin's software. I used his earlier software which was a semi-automated solution for getting profile backlinks. I have not used SEO link robot. BigMike (Incansoft) also has a similar software and it's much cheaper - probably around $27 - one time fee. Magic Submitter is another option ($67 monthly or $250/annual). I have used it for about 2 months and you can schedule and make designs and all. They did that stuff before SENUKE did it. 1 month trial for like $14 I think. I've used it, so it's my 2nd best after SENUKE.
                  Yes, it's Steven Hawkin's software. What's attracting me to SEO link robot is how you're able to interlink from tier to tier at random which creates a random natural looking network. Like you stated with the social bookmarking, the idea is this will appear more natural to Google rather than your typical link wheel design. This fall inline with the linkpush service I mentioned in our last conversation. I'm done doing my research on it, I have a service or software to choose from now. I'm going to put this theory to test this week and see how it works.

                  Thanks for the pointers Chucky!
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  • Profile picture of the author IMKid
    Thank you Chucky! I too have heard many good things about Ken Fry's SB 101, may be I'll get a better deal with his WSO. Keep up the good stuff
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  • Profile picture of the author dodly
    senukex better than senuke
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  • Profile picture of the author CarolinaHeart
    wow most i ever made was $94 in one day.. guess i suck
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  • Profile picture of the author Shawn Wilson
    Chucky,

    I sent you a PM, but if anyone can help, I would be much appreciated. I've implemented this strategy and it's working for me as well. However, I am having problems configuring the theme. Can't seem to find any tutorials either, however I believe the theme is possibly custom for the review site listed in this thread. Any help would be much appreciated, please PM me if you can help. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Omid
    Hi Chucky,

    I was wondering which WSO you recommend for backlinking?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author edynas
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    Very nice and inspirring thread. Funny thing is that I own one of the top tld's EMD of your example keyword and my first reaction was...ahh not that one
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    • Profile picture of the author olamilekan2
      Thanks for sharing this. Awesome
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

      What's attracting me to SEO link robot is how you're able to interlink from tier to tier at random which creates a random natural looking network.
      I doubt it can do things SENUKE X cannot! SENUKE X can not only interlink stuff in all sizes, shapes and forms, but you can also 'CHAIN' different modules together so that it will submit let's say for example 10 articles/day, bookmark those 10, submit their RSS feeds, ping them and even clear the cache so that it can do a 2nd round of the same to another site in 10 minutes. You can set the project to be completed in 1 day or 5 days as you prefer.

      Never seen anything like it (then again, I haven't seen 'em all )
      Originally Posted by gholmali View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      I was wondering which WSO you recommend for backlinking?

      Thanks
      Sorry, I can't recommend a particular service. Pls take a look at the link diversity section that I've written and choose a service that covers as many of them as possible. And you also need to do it consistently, a one off blast almost always doesn't do the job!

      Originally Posted by edynas View Post

      Very nice and inspirring thread. Funny thing is that I own one of the top tld's EMD of your example keyword and my first reaction was...ahh not that one
      That is too funny! Hopefully I didn't criticize it saying all the on page and off page SEO is screwed up Well it couldn't be because I only mentioned the ones that were ranking in the top. Keep up the good work
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Alex
    This thread has single handedly stripped me bare of any more excuses I would have to delay things and start taking action. Everything has become clear now, I know what I need to do to succeed. Thank you Chucky, and all others for sharing your knowledge with the rest of us, this thread is a gold mine for any and every beginner, and even seasoned marketers! You all have my most sincere gratitude!

    *heads off to get started WORKING instead of keeping on reading and looking for another "Get Rich Quick" solution that doesn't exist*

    Alex
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by IM Alex View Post

      This thread has single handedly stripped me bare of any more excuses I would have to delay things and start taking action. Everything has become clear now, I know what I need to do to succeed. Thank you Chucky, and all others for sharing your knowledge with the rest of us, this thread is a gold mine for any and every beginner, and even seasoned marketers! You all have my most sincere gratitude!

      *heads off to get started WORKING instead of keeping on reading and looking for another "Get Rich Quick" solution that doesn't exist*

      Alex
      Well said man!

      The BEST TIME to start something is NOW
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  • Profile picture of the author justin482000
    hey there, great, great thread by the way, thank you so much for putting this up.

    but you said 7 videos, I've seen only 2.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Moran
    lots of value here thanks a lot!
    waiting to see your other posts!
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    • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
      hey Chucky, I can't PM yet. So I'm going to make 50 posts and get back to you lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by mrdomains View Post

        Aha! The hidden secret!
        hard to believe isn't it?

        Originally Posted by justin482000 View Post

        hey there, great, great thread by the way, thank you so much for putting this up.

        but you said 7 videos, I've seen only 2.
        Hey sorry, I have to link up all these different posts together. This is the post that has all the other videos http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post3578602

        There are some other off page SEO posts on pages 3 and 4 as well. Please check them out. I should figure out a way for people to access all these posts without too much trouble, sorry about that. Right now, they're all over the thread.

        Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

        hey Chucky, I can't PM yet. So I'm going to make 50 posts and get back to you lol.
        Don't worry about PMing back, just wanted to share some personal stuff that I didn't want to say on the thread
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  • Profile picture of the author jmorris18
    Warriors , we owe a huge Thank You to Chucky.. The information he has provided is completely amazing. Honestly, with the details, videos, etc - This would easily be a product worth hundreds of dollars. It could actually be one of those products that come with the optional payment plan.. :-) Friends, it does not get any better than this...
    I feel very blessed to be a part of this forum. We have some amazing people to learn from and Chucky is one of many that go above and beyond to help each and everyone of us.

    Jason
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    • Profile picture of the author Adam Moran
      Just wanted to ask 1 question please, are you doing categories to your posts? or just leave it as it is uncateigories?
      what are your thoughts regarding categories in general?
      i'm working on adsense sites now, i might add some sites for clickbanck and affiliates in general - really thanks a lot!
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      • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
        I think you rename your categories to your keywords. Correct me if I am wrong Chucky.

        I did that and the categories page rank on my keywords.
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by jmorris18 View Post

          Warriors , we owe a huge Thank You to Chucky.. The information he has provided is completely amazing. Honestly, with the details, videos, etc - This would easily be a product worth hundreds of dollars. It could actually be one of those products that come with the optional payment plan.. :-) Friends, it does not get any better than this...
          I feel very blessed to be a part of this forum. We have some amazing people to learn from and Chucky is one of many that go above and beyond to help each and everyone of us.

          Jason
          Thank you Jason, very much appreciate your kind words. I only hope people put these steps to action.

          Originally Posted by molan View Post

          Just wanted to ask 1 question please, are you doing categories to your posts? or just leave it as it is uncateigories?
          what are your thoughts regarding categories in general?
          i'm working on adsense sites now, i might add some sites for clickbanck and affiliates in general - really thanks a lot!
          Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

          I think you rename your categories to your keywords. Correct me if I am wrong Chucky.

          I did that and the categories page rank on my keywords.
          Yes that's right, you do change the original 'uncategorized' to your keyword. I typically have two categories for a 5 page site. I don't always make my categories the exact theme kw. Especially if my theme kw is extra long like 'best kids karaoke machine reviews', I won't make my category also the same 5 word phrase. I just think that would look spammy. In the above example, I would make my 2 categories 'kids karaoke machines' and 'karaoke machine reviews'.

          However, if my theme kw is a 2 word phrase, yes I would make the category name the same as my theme kw. I don't have evidence to say using the theme kw as a category makes a big difference or not. In fact, I don't recall any SEO expert saying that it is a crucial factor.

          In one of the WSOs that I bought sometime back, the guy said he names the category exactly as the theme kw. Not only that, he structures his permalinks like %category%/%postname%

          So if you have the EMD, your permalink for the sticky post would look like http://bestkidskaraokemachinereviews...achine-reviews

          I just think it's silly and over the top spammy!

          I simply use two related kws to name the two categories, they may or may not include my theme kw.

          MaineCoon, you say that your 'category page' ranks for your kw right? You may have seen that in plugins like all in one SEO and Platinum SEO (and probably in thesis theme as well) there is an option to 'no index' your category pages. Some people say you should no index the category pages and tag pages thinking that they may otherwise appear as duplicate content within your site. Some experts don't agree with this. I just checked two of my #1 ranking sites. On one of them, I have the category page noindexed while on the other, I have not noindexed it. I guess I haven't been consistent with that and it works either way

          If somebody wants to share their expert opinion on noindexing category/tag pages that would be greatly appreciated.

          Thanks!
          Chucky
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  • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
    Hi Chucky,

    I see 2 of my competitors did not noindex their category and they rank all top 10 spots, including their main URL, post URL, and also category URL. (spot 1-5 from 1st competitors, and spot 6-10 from second competitors)

    I don't think I am going to noindex mine. I think they are semi-hard competitors to beat but I think i can. Because I have exact keyword on my domain, so we'll see =)

    btw, I always use
    /%postname% and never /%category%/%postname%

    it looks spammy to me and too long.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      I see 2 of my competitors did not noindex their category and they rank all top 10 spots, including their main URL, post URL, and also category URL. (spot 1-5 from 1st competitors, and spot 6-10 from second competitors)

      I don't think I am going to noindex mine. I think they are semi-hard competitors to beat but I think i can. Because I have exact keyword on my domain, so we'll see =)

      OK! That confirms what I have heard before. I just have heard people with both points of view. Probably isn't something that will make or break you whichever the way you do it!
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      • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
        I fainted today! Joking but my heart just dropped when I see the 1st site ranked Number #3

        I haven't seen any sales yet because it just ranked today. But I'm telling you, it has 4,400 local exact search! and 5,400 global exact.

        Chucky, THANK YOU for this thread.

        Oh Chucky, what else I can do to my sites now. Should I add something like "Click here to Buy da da da" On the post?
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        • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
          Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

          I fainted today! Joking but my heart just dropped when I see the 1st site ranked Number #3

          I haven't seen any sales yet because it just ranked today. But I'm telling you, it has 4,400 local exact search! and 5,400 global exact.

          Chucky, THANK YOU for this thread.

          Oh Chucky, what else I can do to my sites now. Should I add something like "Click here to Buy da da da" On the post?
          AWESOME NEWS!!!
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          • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
            Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

            AWESOME NEWS!!!
            Thank you ^-^ how's your site going?
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            • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
              Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

              Thank you ^-^ how's your site going?
              I'm a step behind you. As of Monday I started my back linking strategy. I'm doing the multi tier web 2.0 linking strategy. I'm pretty much done with my theme article so monday I'll start with my second post. I ordered articles from a service like 2 weeks ago that are finally done. Yeah, don't get me started. I'll probably post those to ezine as a tier 1 back link as well. I'm also thinking about Chucky's bookmarking ideas as tier 1 as well.

              Otherwise, Google dance all day long. When I first launched, I was on page one. That's what I got those crazy first sales. Then the dance started. I'm on pages 2-4. I'm hoping in a couple of weeks the web-2.0 nests get indexed and start moving me up again.

              How long did it take your links to take hold? Didn't your site disappear for a week or something?
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              • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
                Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

                I'm a step behind you. As of Monday I started my back linking strategy. I'm doing the multi tier web 2.0 linking strategy. I'm pretty much done with my theme article so monday I'll start with my second post. I ordered articles from a service like 2 weeks ago that are finally done. Yeah, don't get me started. I'll probably post those to ezine as a tier 1 back link as well. I'm also thinking about Chucky's bookmarking ideas as tier 1 as well.

                Otherwise, Google dance all day long. When I first launched, I was on page one. That's what I got those crazy first sales. Then the dance started. I'm on pages 2-4. I'm hoping in a couple of weeks the web-2.0 nests get indexed and start moving me up again.

                How long did it take your links to take hold? Didn't your site disappear for a week or something?
                Yea my 2nd site disappeared for like a few days (2-3 days) then came back to regain the same position. My 1st site didn't. Both is now slowly going up after I SEnuked them. Of course the 1st site is in a higher position because i SEnuked the 1st site first.

                For the first site, I did see a small sign of going down a few ranking for a few days. I was at like #9 ranking, then go up #7 for like a day or two then drop back down #9. Then jumped right into #3 today!

                My 2nd is at #19. It looks like both of sites are "stable" at their ranking. I wouldn't build links for a week or two then suddenly STOP. You know what I'm saying?
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                • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
                  Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

                  Yea my 2nd site disappeared for like a few days (2-3 days) then came back to regain the same position. My 1st site didn't. Both is now slowly going up after I SEnuked them. Of course the 1st site is in a higher position because i SEnuked the 1st site first.

                  For the first site, I did see a small sign of going down a few ranking for a few days. I was at like #9 ranking, then go up #7 for like a day or two then drop back down #9. Then jumped right into #3 today!

                  My 2nd is at #19. It looks like both of sites are "stable" at their ranking. I wouldn't build links for a week or two then suddenly STOP. You know what I'm saying?
                  Yeah, I totally do. I remember Chucky saying something like that so I planned a 5 week building strategy. Hopefully this works. I've got to admit, it does wear on your patience... waiting... watching... hoping... lol

                  Did you stop at 5 pieces of content on your site?
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                  • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
                    Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

                    Yeah, I totally do. I remember Chucky saying something like that so I planned a 5 week building strategy. Hopefully this works. I've got to admit, it does wear on your patience... waiting... watching... hoping... lol

                    Did you stop at 5 pieces of content on your site?
                    ddBoom, Yes I did. I scheduled them apart like 6-12days from each post. I don't know if I should add more post, if that's a good money site, i'll probably add more contents to it.
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  • Profile picture of the author pmg2712
    Thanks alot. that looks good. I am on my way now!
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  • Profile picture of the author cpaddiction
    Congrats, man ! Really impressive, you definitely did a great job. I'll give you a thumb up
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Moran
    Hi MaineCoon and ddBoom great to hear about your success! I'm trying to work also on my sites at the moment and rank them on the serp...
    You guys doing sites based clickbank right? i would love to see what kind of theme and structure of the site are you using? kind of snipper sites when you review the product as a person?
    thanks a lot for this thread helped me a lot!
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    • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
      Originally Posted by molan View Post

      Hi MaineCoon and ddBoom great to hear about your success! I'm trying to work also on my sites at the moment and rank them on the serp...
      You guys doing sites based clickbank right? i would love to see what kind of theme and structure of the site are you using? kind of snipper sites when you review the product as a person?
      thanks a lot for this thread helped me a lot!
      Don't put all your eggs in one basket. I will not only do clickbank products, amazon, CJ, CPA, etc.

      I just download free themes, when I see money coming in I will buy thesis theme.
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    • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
      Originally Posted by molan View Post

      Hi MaineCoon and ddBoom great to hear about your success! I'm trying to work also on my sites at the moment and rank them on the serp...
      You guys doing sites based clickbank right? i would love to see what kind of theme and structure of the site are you using? kind of snipper sites when you review the product as a person?
      thanks a lot for this thread helped me a lot!
      Like MaineCoon said, you diversify. That's my plan as well. Far as themes, what I did was: I searched for some products, found some landing page designs I liked, then looked at their CSS file to figure out which theme they used. Most of the time affiliates use free themes.
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  • Profile picture of the author zajacik
    This whole thread ought to be a WSO and it should be called WSO's Finest. I have copied and pasted all the info I need to read over and over and it is over 40 pages. Most WSO's are not that long or even contain so much great info. Everyone ... keep up the good work sharing your experience.

    I just had a #10 site completely drop off the face of the earth. Am trying a few things to make it come back. When it does I will share my experience.

    Ray
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      I fainted today! Joking but my heart just dropped when I see the 1st site ranked Number #3

      I haven't seen any sales yet because it just ranked today. But I'm telling you, it has 4,400 local exact search! and 5,400 global exact.

      Chucky, THANK YOU for this thread.

      Oh Chucky, what else I can do to my sites now. Should I add something like "Click here to Buy da da da" On the post?
      Hey congratulations! Awesome news.

      Yes, now is the time to start tracking and optimizing for conversions. I don't know enough to advice you on this. But apparently Google Analytics is all you need (at this stage) for tracking which search terms brings in sales etc.

      The search volume sounds very healthy. Remember, position #1 gets 42% of them and #3 gets something like 10%. However, you can increase that number by playing around with your title tag. Instead of focusing on optimizing it for the SEs, try to talk to people (but make sure you still maintain the on page SEO factors). Have CAPITAL letters, a call to action etc. etc. to entice more people to click on your website compared to #1 and #2. Once they are inside, engage them and improve bounce rate etc. that I addressed earlier. Turn on comments, ask them to comment, moderate them and start a conversation. You can even start the conversation by stating something controversial as the 1st comment.

      Of course you need to make sales also. If your kw is not a product name kw, see if you're promoting the best product.

      Do a detailed and thorough review. Use "Click here" buttons/images than "Click Here" text. That should get the ball rolling.

      Congrats again!

      Originally Posted by zajacik View Post

      This whole thread ought to be a WSO and it should be called WSO's Finest. I have copied and pasted all the info I need to read over and over and it is over 40 pages. Most WSO's are not that long or even contain so much great info. Everyone ... keep up the good work sharing your experience.

      I just had a #10 site completely drop off the face of the earth. Am trying a few things to make it come back. When it does I will share my experience.

      Ray
      Wow, thank you Ray! All the best reviving your site. I got an email today from Dan Thies about the Panda update. A webinar on Monday. This is the link, Webinar Registration hopefully you'll be able to pick something up (not an affiliate link - obviously).

      I usually recommend anything Dan Thies, Leslie Rhodie duo puts out. Their products are super expensive, but they usually give enough free information with plenty of Golden nuggets.

      So many threads everywhere fro people saying they lost their sites - scary
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  • Profile picture of the author SuspectZero
    Great thread with great information, I find these kind of posts the best on the WF just your story and how you got there no bs. It's really helpful for warriors of all levels to read fellow warriors journeys Keep up the good work
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  • Profile picture of the author steveperch
    Chucky,

    I have been studying this post methodically over the last three days. I think I am finally absorbing all of it. I am also a young guy, finishing up school and to hear your story is really inspiring. I have the mindset of success and I can't imagine anything stopping me.

    Luckily one of my sites starting making money after a month of affiliate marketing. It has since been deindexed by Google but those first couple of sales were enough to keep me going. There is such a difference between no sale and one sale in this game.

    Anyway, thank you so much for all of this advice and for your input. I really do appreciate it. Excited to hear more from you!

    Thanks!
    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author SB274
    Excellent thread Chucky!

    This guide is very helpful and should be read by anyone who is getting into SEO.

    Great Job.
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  • Profile picture of the author hotboy18
    Thanks for sharing all this info and great post!
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    • Profile picture of the author olamilekan2
      Once again, i must say i am blessed to be part of this forum, and one of the reason is the people like Chucky. giving these golden nuggets out is amazing and that shows the kind of Character in the OP, the hands of the giver is always on top, as you help people to acieve there dreams, there will be Nice people up there that will be more than willing to be a blessing to u to.

      You are a blessing to alot of people here. I wish u all the best. Thanks once again.

      Moruf
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Viner
    This is a fabulous thread with a wealth of information for any newbie. Of course it takes hard work and dedication but you are a shining example that if you do this the rewards are immense.

    Perhaps you should collate all of the information you have put on here into a PDF and offer it for free. Brilliant stuff

    Paul.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by Paul Viner View Post

      This is a fabulous thread with a wealth of information for any newbie. Of course it takes hard work and dedication but you are a shining example that if you do this the rewards are immense.

      Perhaps you should collate all of the information you have put on here into a PDF and offer it for free. Brilliant stuff

      Paul.
      Hey, thanks! You just gave me an idea. Not exactly what you said... but something similar. Will implement that within ..... the next 2 months may be
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      • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
        BOOM! Another sale!

        This stuff works people! For the record, my site initially ranked high straight out of the gates. Within 4 days I nailed 2 sales! Yes, 2 sales by the 4th day live!

        The following week my site dropped in rankings as I started the dance with google. I stayed patient while this was happening. During the following 2 weeks I only did a handful of high PR backlinks ALL by hand. I also posted a couple of new articles as Chucky outlines while I let my site soak. Then, just last week, I started my mass backlinking strategy using multi tiered web-2.0 properties similar to Chucky's example. I linked these mini-keyword-networks back to my THEME post. This week I launch my second web-2.0 strategy network and linked it back to my second post. I also begun submitting my articles to ezine as a tier one backlinks.

        It takes time but it works! Thanks Chuck!
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        • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
          Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

          BOOM! Another sale!

          This stuff works people! For the record, my site initially ranked high straight out of the gates. Within 4 days I nailed 2 sales! Yes, 2 sales by the 4th day live!

          The following week my site dropped in rankings as I started the dance with google. I stayed patient while this was happening. During the following 2 weeks I only did a handful of high PR backlinks ALL by hand. I also posted a couple of new articles as Chucky outlines while I let my site soak. Then, just last week, I started my mass backlinking strategy using multi tiered web-2.0 properties similar to Chucky's example. I linked these mini-keyword-networks back to my THEME post. This week I launch my second web-2.0 strategy network and linked it back to my second post. I also begun submitting my articles to ezine as a tier one backlinks.

          It takes time but it works! Thanks Chuck!
          Wow ddBoom, that's Awesome! Congrats!

          I made my first sale today but I am not too excited because I am promoting Amazon's product which you don't get much commission =( So I am kinna bummed out. At least I'll know to aim for more commission products.
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          • Profile picture of the author ddBoom
            Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

            Wow ddBoom, that's Awesome! Congrats!

            I made my first sale today but I am not too excited because I am promoting Amazon's product which you don't get much commission =( So I am kinna bummed out. At least I'll know to aim for more commission products.
            Thanks! I figured I'd keep the positive flow going here.

            Amazon products are cool because Amazon is great at cross selling. I have a site that sells netbooks via Amazon. I sometimes sell a netbook and a pair of jeans. At least you'll have a site in place for the holidays.

            Hey Chucky, have you even targeted smaller hallmark days like mother's day?
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            • Profile picture of the author oogyboogawa
              Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

              Thanks! I figured I'd keep the positive flow going here.

              Amazon products are cool because Amazon is great at cross selling. I have a site that sells netbooks via Amazon. I sometimes sell a netbook and a pair of jeans. At least you'll have a site in place for the holidays.

              Hey Chucky, have you even targeted smaller hallmark days like mother's day?

              The other nice thing is that if you can sell a lot of a low dollar item that still counts to increase your commission percentage for the big dollar items.
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            • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
              Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

              Thanks! I figured I'd keep the positive flow going here.

              Amazon products are cool because Amazon is great at cross selling. I have a site that sells netbooks via Amazon. I sometimes sell a netbook and a pair of jeans. At least you'll have a site in place for the holidays.

              Hey Chucky, have you even targeted smaller hallmark days like mother's day?
              Oh yea, that's no doubt about it. I guess I was just aiming for higher expectation. I was hoping to make $5+ rather than a whooping $0.60 cents lol. I am not a newbie so that was kind of a joke, a little disappointed in myself but lesson learned and moved on. Still doing slow backlinking to that site.

              But I see a lot of people ask a lot of questions, it's good to ask a few but my suggestion is just to "DIVE RIGHT IN". You just kind of learn what to do and what not to do. Even if you follow exact Chucky instruction, there are things you will have to decide on your own and test it out. Raise and repeat =)

              BTW, I got into a private affiliate program from a company because I found a great product to promote that no one else promoting, 4000+ exact buy keyword search, I am SO excited. HIGH AS HELL COMMISSION RATE, if the customer returned and buy more things, I get commission again even if they don't go thru my site. (I asked about it today lol) GREAT affiliate manager, I told him exactly what I was doing because the first thing he asked was "What is your website?", well I have no website and I explained what I am going to do and how I am going to do it, I had to same experience with some the CJ merchant's companies. I got in touch with the affiliate managers and I got my denied app to APPROVED APP =)

              My advice is, BE HONEST, and don't bull**** about your experience with IM. And don't bash yourself saying you know nothing because you do. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author tbsweet52
    Just started to build niche websites on the side while I'm not at my other business just to see how I'd do, and I always get confused with the website structure.

    Home page should target the primary keyword. Ok I got that.
    But then do we create separate pages or posts targeting secondary keywords?

    Also, when you build your links are you using your primary keyword as your anchor text pointing to the main page only? Or are you building deep links to all pages?

    Thanks!
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    Also, did I read correctly that instead of trying to target the site for multiple keywords we should buy exact-match domains for the other keywords? Idk as you can tell I get confused haha

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

      BOOM! Another sale!

      This stuff works people! For the record, my site initially ranked high straight out of the gates. Within 4 days I nailed 2 sales! Yes, 2 sales by the 4th day live!

      The following week my site dropped in rankings as I started the dance with google. I stayed patient while this was happening. During the following 2 weeks I only did a handful of high PR backlinks ALL by hand. I also posted a couple of new articles as Chucky outlines while I let my site soak. Then, just last week, I started my mass backlinking strategy using multi tiered web-2.0 properties similar to Chucky's example. I linked these mini-keyword-networks back to my THEME post. This week I launch my second web-2.0 strategy network and linked it back to my second post. I also begun submitting my articles to ezine as a tier one backlinks.

      It takes time but it works! Thanks Chuck!
      Congrats! great news, sounds like it's time for that 2nd/3rd site to come out.

      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      Wow ddBoom, that's Awesome! Congrats!

      I made my first sale today but I am not too excited because I am promoting Amazon's product which you don't get much commission =( So I am kinna bummed out. At least I'll know to aim for more commission products.
      Been there and felt that sense of disappointment. That's why I said kw research is so important. I used to make websites on anything I could sell without thinking how much I would make from each item. Now I try to pick products that are >$200 so that I make at least $15/sale. But not always, remember, my goal is to send as many gift shoppers as possible to Amazon during Christmas - for the shopping cart effect.

      I too don't make a lot on Amazon 10 months of the year. Now that you've mastered the art of SEO, time to master the art of kw research. I too got it in that sequence unfortunately. But there's time, better late than never right?

      The MOST PROPER way to do it is to set up a PPC campaign and bring some traffic to targeted phrases. Then you know if the kw convert or not before you put in the effort for SEO. I've never done it (because I know very little about PPC) but I can totally understand why it is the best way. However, there are other methods too to figure out the commercial intent/earnings per sale as I've mentioned earlier. Good luck!

      Originally Posted by tbsweet52 View Post

      Just started to build niche websites on the side while I'm not at my other business just to see how I'd do, and I always get confused with the website structure.

      Home page should target the primary keyword. Ok I got that.
      But then do we create separate pages or posts targeting secondary keywords?

      Also, when you build your links are you using your primary keyword as your anchor text pointing to the main page only? Or are you building deep links to all pages?

      Thanks!
      I create 'posts' for each 2ry kw, but I don't know if creating pages would make a difference.

      The bulk of my links are to the sticky post using the theme kw as the anchor text, another good fraction to the main domain with theme kw as anchor text. Then I make like 10-15% of links to inner pages some of which will have theme kw anchor text while others will have secondary kw anchor text.

      Making links to the inner pages is something I started doing recently. Have been successful with links to sticky post and home page only for a long time. Rarely I would also build a link or two to the sticky post with one of the 2ry kw or using a phrase containing the theme kw. For example, if my theme kw is 'kids karaoke machines', I would build links with anchor text like recommended kids karaoke machines, kids karaoke machines for boys etc. (these variations of the theme kw are NOT 2ry kw - I've just added a prefix/suffix to the theme kw). If I use a 2ry kw as anchor text, I would point it to that particular post and not the homepage or sticky post.

      If I tell you I do 80% of this 10% of that and another 10% of this, I'd be lying. I don't keep track of those. But what I can tell you is that the majority of links (probably over 80-90% have the theme kw as the anchor text).

      Originally Posted by tbsweet52 View Post

      Also, did I read correctly that instead of trying to target the site for multiple keywords we should buy exact-match domains for the other keywords? Idk as you can tell I get confused haha

      Thanks
      My SEO knowledge is NOT strong enough to achieve #1 rankings for theme kw + 2ry kw in one site. I usually get #1 for the theme kw and may be the singular/plural variation of it.

      However, if all your 5 kw (theme + 2ry) are very good kw with high search volume, and good commercial intent, why not grab 5 domain names and go after all of them? Some of them will not rank, but if you cover the points I mentioned, the chances are that you will get at least 3 of them on the first page.

      If you can rank 1 site for at least 3 kw on the first page, that's probably the better option (than building 5 sites)
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      • Profile picture of the author Montana55
        Hi Chucky,

        I just wanted to say thank you so much for sharing this thread that you’ve created.

        It’s my first day here on this forum and I was looking for some help on SEO as I don’t quite ‘get it’ yet...and then I came across your posts.

        I’ve been here practically all day! Amazing!

        I think I’m going to have to start from the beginning again because there’s so much to take in.

        Thanks again Chucky!
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      • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        Been there and felt that sense of disappointment. That's why I said kw research is so important. I used to make websites on anything I could sell without thinking how much I would make from each item. Now I try to pick products that are >$200 so that I make at least $15/sale. But not always, remember, my goal is to send as many gift shoppers as possible to Amazon during Christmas - for the shopping cart effect.

        I too don't make a lot on Amazon 10 months of the year. Now that you've mastered the art of SEO, time to master the art of kw research. I too got it in that sequence unfortunately. But there's time, better late than never right?

        The MOST PROPER way to do it is to set up a PPC campaign and bring some traffic to targeted phrases. Then you know if the kw convert or not before you put in the effort for SEO. I've never done it (because I know very little about PPC) but I can totally understand why it is the best way. However, there are other methods too to figure out the commercial intent/earnings per sale as I've mentioned earlier. Good luck!
        Thanks Chucky. I got 1 sale when I ranked #3. Who knows how many sales I get when I rank #1. I don't mind if that website makes me $50-$100/month. It's better than nothing. Hey at least it'll cover the domain cost and hosting for the whole year =)
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  • Profile picture of the author StoneWilson
    I'll follow this thread and see what will happen, besides, may be I'll try the strategies you are sharing, cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author RhythmClick
    Hi Chucky,

    This is really a great thread. You are sharing so much info here.

    Do you mind if I ask the sort of traffic you need to achieve these sort of earnings.

    I can often get good levels of traffic to sites I work on, but sometimes wonder if other internet marketers are able to monetize thier traffic to a much greater degree.

    I saw you mention above that a good percentage of your typical months earnings are from two sites. Do you mind if I ask the sort of traffic these sites get to be earning at that level.

    Thanks again for all the great info here.
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  • Profile picture of the author junilerick
    Hey Chucky,

    Thanks again for this fantastic thread!

    Got a few questions regarding keyword research and competition analysis that hopefullly you can help shed some light on.

    1) What is your typicaly first stage when you're doing keyword research? Do you usually start with a keyword research tool for random seed keywords or would you start by checking out products on sites such as Amazon and Clickbank?

    2) Recently when I'm doing competition analysis I've been running into a situation quite often. The sites on the first page are not optimized for a keyword in terms of title, H1/H2/H3 tags, url, or description. Oftenly, many of them aren't optimized for any of the things I just mentioned. The problem is they all have rather high PR such ranging from 4 to 6. Also, these results are typically inner pages that have very few or no backlinks whatsoever. So my question is would you think my chances are good if I try to compete in this situation?
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  • Profile picture of the author cjshu99
    Any success with subdomains? For example doghouses.mysite.com?

    I have a site listed in Google this way. Google says they treat it as a separate domain. Plus I can get exact match keywords in my domain title and not have to purchase a domain for every site.

    Anyone have success with this?
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    • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
      Originally Posted by cjshu99 View Post

      Any success with subdomains? For example doghouses.mysite.com?

      I have a site listed in Google this way. Google says they treat it as a separate domain. Plus I can get exact match keywords in my domain title and not have to purchase a domain for every site.

      Anyone have success with this?
      It will work but much smaller success rate and slower ranking and possible slower indexing as well.

      Wouldn't you have much more success rate getting a subdomain by building a Web 2.0 sites? from sites like hubpages, blogspots that have higher PR and they are authority sites. Isn't it better than subdomains?

      Unless you have a high PR and aged domain sites for dog houses.

      Plus domain names are cheap, only cost less than $10 for a year. That's your investment to spent on each site =) The return could be much greater. Perhaps 1000x more? Isn't it worth it?
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  • Profile picture of the author evelyng
    Thanks so much for this post Chucky. I started to scan it then went back and read the entire thing slowly. Your process is excellent and I'm looking forward to putting up some sites using it.
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  • Profile picture of the author heathwaive
    yeah this is cool keep it up!! a lot of work went into making this post!
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  • Profile picture of the author Daave
    It was great reading this thread, you did an amazing job and I am curious to know how you did all that..... Keep up the job men....
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  • Profile picture of the author JeromyS
    Wow, that is a detailed break down. Could easily turn into a WSO. I like how you haven't seemed to miss a detail, even the technical stuff. Thanks for documenting!

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author cjshu99
    originally posted by MaineCoon
    ...Wouldn't you have much more success rate getting a subdomain by building a Web 2.0 sites? from sites like hubpages, blogspots that have higher PR and they are authority sites. Isn't it better than subdomains?...
    Actually Squidoo, Hubpages and Blogger are cracking down on affiliate sites. Just go read some of their lastest TOS updates.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by RhythmClick View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      This is really a great thread. You are sharing so much info here.

      Do you mind if I ask the sort of traffic you need to achieve these sort of earnings.

      I can often get good levels of traffic to sites I work on, but sometimes wonder if other internet marketers are able to monetize thier traffic to a much greater degree.

      I saw you mention above that a good percentage of your typical months earnings are from two sites. Do you mind if I ask the sort of traffic these sites get to be earning at that level.

      Thanks again for all the great info here.
      On the 4 figure days (during black friday/cyber monday weekend), I think I got about 20,000 visitors in total to my amazon sites. If I remember right, those 20,000 visitors gave me approx $16,000 in sales. That's 80 cents per visitor. I don't get that kind of earnings per visitor on other Amazon sites or even on these same Amazon sites on a regular day.

      I have several Amazon sites that get over 100 visitors per day. But they make me like $5 - 15 per 100 visitors (if the quick math done in my head is correct).

      My best earning sites are monetized with CJ and CB. One of them makes $150/day on average with about 250 views (haven't checked if these were unique visitors or not; this site has about 40 pages of content) a day and the other makes about $50/day with about 80 visits.

      Then I also have several sites that consistently get about 30-50 visitors/day and makes me nothing on Amazon. I guess these are not buyer kw. Very disappointing.

      You say "if other internet marketers are able to monetize thier traffic to a much greater degree"; but I think you mean "CONVERT" the traffic to sales right? That's a whole new topic that I'm still not good at (I think )

      Hope that answers your question.

      Originally Posted by ddBoom View Post

      Thanks! I figured I'd keep the positive flow going here.

      Amazon products are cool because Amazon is great at cross selling. I have a site that sells netbooks via Amazon. I sometimes sell a netbook and a pair of jeans. At least you'll have a site in place for the holidays.

      Hey Chucky, have you even targeted smaller hallmark days like mother's day?
      No I haven't, but I've seen people good with PPC doing it. That's why PPC is so powerful, you literally need one day to prepare for a product launch or any other event. SEO is not quite that, at least within my capacity

      However, I have targeted seasonal products. Spring, summer vs winter ...

      Here's something I learned this year. I targeted a Spring product and was ranking #1-2 over winter. But obviously no sales. Once the sales started coming in in March, I went down to #7 all of a sudden. Suddenly, authority sites and Amazon itself ranked above me. I didn't add any new content or links, but I guess the others did one or both. I have managed to bring it up to #4 by adding new content and backlinks. So the lesson is don't be complacent just because you're at the top in the off season!

      Some people may not want to target these terms because they don't make sales throughout the year and we can take advantage of that!

      Originally Posted by oogyboogawa View Post

      The other nice thing is that if you can sell a lot of a low dollar item that still counts to increase your commission percentage for the big dollar items.
      Absolutely! helps the commission rate go up from 6% to 8%

      Originally Posted by otokonokaux View Post

      Hey Chucky,

      I want to thank you for all the information you have provided! Very useful.

      I am starting to implement your strategies and I want to know what you think about my discoveries thus far. I am going to go ahead and out my niche so that I can get your opinion.

      KeyWord: "tailgating grills" 35.1k competition


      Exact Local Search: ~1000
      EMD: tailgating - grills dot com

      Can you tell me if I am on the right track? The only problem I see is that there arent any supporting 2ry keywords that I can easily dominate. So I would not launch a batch like you have.

      The wonderwheel produced - tailgating supplies, camping grills, portable grills. But these keywords are out of my range.

      Should I launch this site and concetrate on tailgating grills?

      I would monitize with Amazon, Adsense and a ClickBank product (Competition BBQ Secrets) of low gravity (11.21)

      I appreciate your help!
      Yup I think it should be an easy target phrase.

      I see many potential 2ry kw on the wonderwheel tg charcoal grills, tg gas grills, best tg grills, tg bbq grills etc. etc. If they don't have healthy search volumes, probably not worth going for a batch of websites. Who knows, may be if the competition level is right, you'd be able to get 'em all with a single website. Good luck!

      Originally Posted by junilerick View Post

      Hey Chucky,

      Thanks again for this fantastic thread!

      Got a few questions regarding keyword research and competition analysis that hopefullly you can help shed some light on.

      1) What is your typicaly first stage when you're doing keyword research? Do you usually start with a keyword research tool for random seed keywords or would you start by checking out products on sites such as Amazon and Clickbank?

      2) Recently when I'm doing competition analysis I've been running into a situation quite often. The sites on the first page are not optimized for a keyword in terms of title, H1/H2/H3 tags, url, or description. Oftenly, many of them aren't optimized for any of the things I just mentioned. The problem is they all have rather high PR such ranging from 4 to 6. Also, these results are typically inner pages that have very few or no backlinks whatsoever. So my question is would you think my chances are good if I try to compete in this situation?
      I've always had a particular product (e.g. Nintendo Wii Console) or a product category (e.g. Console video games) in mind before I started kw research. If there is a hot selling product, I would go for a sub-niche of that product/category that I am comfortable with.

      Generally, if the sites are not optimized for the title tag, description tag, url, other on page optimization features with few backlinks that is an easy target regardless or PR. I believe, I went over such an example in my kw research videos. This is the general rule and may have exceptions and cannot say anything definitive without looking at the exact phrase. Hope that helps.

      Originally Posted by cjshu99 View Post

      Any success with subdomains? For example doghouses.mysite.com?

      I have a site listed in Google this way. Google says they treat it as a separate domain. Plus I can get exact match keywords in my domain title and not have to purchase a domain for every site.

      Anyone have success with this?
      I think a lot of us have tried to do that to save money on domain names and a lot of us failed because we were not ready to build authority sites in the calibre of Wikipedia or About.com. If you are ready to build such sites go for it, otherwise, I would STRONGLY advise against it

      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      BTW, I got into a private affiliate program from a company because I found a great product to promote that no one else promoting, 4000+ exact buy keyword search, I am SO excited. HIGH AS HELL COMMISSION RATE, if the customer returned and buy more things, I get commission again even if they don't go thru my site. (I asked about it today lol) GREAT affiliate manager, I told him exactly what I was doing because the first thing he asked was "What is your website?", well I have no website and I explained what I am going to do and how I am going to do it, I had to same experience with some the CJ merchant's companies. I got in touch with the affiliate managers and I got my denied app to APPROVED APP =)
      WOW congrats, I've never done that

      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      Wouldn't you have much more success rate getting a subdomain by building a Web 2.0 sites? from sites like hubpages, blogspots that have higher PR and they are authority sites. Isn't it better than subdomains?
      I wouldn't do that. It's better to own the race course than the race horse

      These sites can change their TOS and Google can change their love-hate to these sites any time as we saw with Panda
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      • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        I wouldn't do that. It's better to own the race course than the race horse

        These sites can change their TOS and Google can change their love-hate to these sites any time as we saw with Panda
        Chucky, you are absolutely right.

        For Web 2.0 sites, you can get fast results but not a long term solution. With Web 2.0, you can rank #1 in no time and make decent amount of money before your site get taken down. Compared to a sub-domain, which will take you forever to rank first page and really slim chance if that keyword is profitable. So all your hard work you put into your sub domain site will be a waste.

        I was trying to make an example here, if people bother with sub domains. Why not bother with Web 2.0 which you can get faster and better results?

        My point is if you don't bother with Web 2.0, don't bother with sub domain.

        Not saying sub-domain doesn't work, it will but not worth it. I guess unless you have a really high PR aged domain site, it could be questionable.

        I can give you another example here:
        .Info vs .com/.org/.net

        Does .info work? sure! but Google will favor these sites .com/.org/.net

        Like Chucky told me, spend a good amount on time researching on your keyword, it's well worth it. So you don't have to worry about spending so much on a domain.
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        • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
          Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

          Chucky, you are absolutely right.

          For Web 2.0 sites, you can get fast results but not a long term solution. With Web 2.0, you can rank #1 in no time and make decent amount of money before your site get taken down. Compared to a sub-domain, which will take you forever to rank first page and really slim chance if that keyword is profitable. So all your hard work you put into your sub domain site will be a waste.

          I was trying to make an example here, if people bother with sub domains. Why not bother with Web 2.0 which you can get faster and better results?

          My point is if you don't bother with Web 2.0, don't bother with sub domain.

          Not saying sub-domain doesn't work, it will but not worth it. I guess unless you have a really high PR aged domain site, it could be questionable.

          I can give you another example here:
          .Info vs .com/.org/.net

          Does .info work? sure! but Google will favor these sites .com/.org/.net

          Like Chucky told me, spend a good amount on time researching on your keyword, it's well worth it. So you don't have to worry about spending so much on a domain.
          hey Maincoon,

          google actually considers sub-domains as a fresh domain. Or at least, that's what google has released publicly.

          The advantage of using a subdomain is that you do not have to purchase a new domain.

          The disadvantage of using a subdomain is that some visitors will think it looks unprofessional.

          It's more of a question of whether 10 dollars per year is worth higher perceived authority.

          If you're making low quality MFA sites, then it might be worth to save money on domain registrations. If you are concerned with the perceived authority of your site, then the 10 dollars per year is probably worth it.

          I always buy new domains for my sites, but subdomains might fit better into some people business model.
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  • Profile picture of the author junilerick
    Hey Chucky,

    Thanks for the reply!

    Got another few quick questions if you don't mind:

    1) Do you use ReviewAzon or any other similar plugin or do you mostly just build the site from scratch?

    2) What tools or services would be a good yet more economical substitute for SeNuke (I understand that's your favorite)

    3) Do you still find link pyramids and wheels to be that effective?

    Thanks again in advance!
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  • Profile picture of the author RhythmClick
    Hey Chucky,

    Thanks heaps for providing those traffic stats. That was a real eye opener for me as to the amount that can be earned per visitor in the right situation.

    I think this is showing me the extent that targeting buying terms can improve monetization.

    I have often given priority to targeting high volume terms in my niches which often leads to informational terms. I have always known that opting for buyer terms more so than volume can lead to higher CPM, but you stats have really shown me the extent of this.

    I think I will re-read you advice on picking buyer terms and try targeting a few of these sorts of terms for a while to see how it works outs.

    Thanks again for the stats.
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  • Profile picture of the author guewarascoy
    Amazing !! there is WSO here in this thread..

    I learn SEO from you..But, Could you tell me how setting search term tagging plugin 2 ??

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author olamilekan2
      Here again, just one questions, when u are building the Amazon sites, do u use any Plugins to build the sites like Reviewazon or any other ones or you just use Amazon Widgets or Links in your post.

      Thank you
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    you are awesome, dude. if you take a vacation here in the Philippines, let me know and Ill buy you a beer.
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    Greta work - nice post -I am still have problems with the videos- sound not loud enough- You have inspired me....
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by junilerick View Post

      Hey Chucky,

      Thanks for the reply!

      Got another few quick questions if you don't mind:

      1) Do you use ReviewAzon or any other similar plugin or do you mostly just build the site from scratch?

      2) What tools or services would be a good yet more economical substitute for SeNuke (I understand that's your favorite)

      3) Do you still find link pyramids and wheels to be that effective?

      Thanks again in advance!
      No I don't use any of those auto-populate plugins. I have tried Ayaw's plugin (another WSO), but because it didn't give me the kind of flexibility I wanted I didn't continue using it.

      I haven't been a continuous member of SENUKE. I subscribe when I have a bunch of content ready for blasting and within that month I use it maximally.

      I have used Rank Builder (Alex Goad/Maulana) and Magic Submitter in the past. The latter also allows you to schedule your submissions. If SENUKE is 8 out of 10, I would give the above 2 6 out of 10. No real big difference. But if you have some extra time in hand, you can do a couple of link wheels every month as a service for other warriors and make back your monthly subscription.

      About the 3rd question, I honestly don't know for sure. That's because I do a lot of other things as well to my sites at the same time. I don't know if the results I see is from one of them, a combination of them or all of them. As I have mentioned earlier, I don't do an exact link wheel, I do what's called a link magnet (mentioned in the off-page-seo post on page 3 or 4).

      Originally Posted by guewarascoy View Post

      Amazing !! there is WSO here in this thread..

      I learn SEO from you..But, Could you tell me how setting search term tagging plugin 2 ??

      thanks
      I set it up so that the search terms are shown at the bottom of the post. I set it to show 30 search terms and I also set them to be separated by a comma like kw1, kw2, kw3, kw4 instead of the default which I think is bullet points. I basically take out the <li> symbols for before and after and place a comma in the 'after box'. Those are the only modifications I do from the default settings as far as I remember

      Originally Posted by olamilekan2 View Post

      Here again, just one questions, when u are building the Amazon sites, do u use any Plugins to build the sites like Reviewazon or any other ones or you just use Amazon Widgets or Links in your post.

      Thank you
      No I don't. I pick what I feel are the top products put them in a table and outline the pros and cons of each of them. That's my homepage/sticky post.

      Originally Posted by ongkal View Post

      you are awesome, dude. if you take a vacation here in the Philippines, let me know and Ill buy you a beer.
      Now I have a reason to visit the Philippines

      Originally Posted by 32paul52 View Post

      Greta work - nice post -I am still have problems with the videos- sound not loud enough- You have inspired me....
      Sorry about the audio/video quality. Video is one of my BIGGEST weaknesses
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    I will be checking your videos. Looks
    like you put a lot of work into this. Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author giseo
      how did you weather the panda update?

      also you use analytics on your site? if so, not worried about google detecting a footprint through it?
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  • Profile picture of the author firebane05
    what heppened where are the 3 other videos its not playing please fix it i need to see it.
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    • Profile picture of the author giseo
      when judging competition what would give you the green light?

      from what i've seen what would give you the green would be 300 or less backlinks to the top site, wal-mart, amazon sites, free hosted sites ...

      am i right? what am i missing?

      what kind of sites would give you the red?
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    • Profile picture of the author giseo
      Originally Posted by firebane05 View Post

      what heppened where are the 3 other videos its not playing please fix it i need to see it.
      try here? YouTube - IMandSEO's Channel
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by giseo View Post

        how did you weather the panda update?

        also you use analytics on your site? if so, not worried about google detecting a footprint through it?
        Lost 2 Ezine articles that were earning few hundred dollars a month.

        Lost an ArticlesBase article which was ranking on page 3-4 for a hyper competitive phrase. It has not earned me a penny, but I have spent over $500 on it at least to get it there
        My sites were not affected. Probably because my content was unique and I don't post scraped content or auto-generated content on my money sites. I have built 1000s of profile links to some of my sites, but they didn't move suggesting that profile links had little or nothing to do with the Panda update (as suggested by some - however SEO authorities like SEOMoz stated Panda looked at on page factors only)

        Yes I have Google Analytics on almost all of my sites. I don't worry about a footprint because I don't do anything black hat and also, I don't interconnect them or whatever. In fact, I have two of my sites ranking on the first page some times for the same phrase. That tells me Google doesn't mind ranking 2 different sites from the same guy for the same phrase... right?

        Originally Posted by giseo View Post

        when judging competition what would give you the green light?

        from what i've seen what would give you the green would be 300 or less backlinks to the top site, wal-mart, amazon sites, free hosted sites ...

        am i right? what am i missing?

        what kind of sites would give you the red?
        I personally take on sites that have up to 2000 links if their on page optimization is not good. The final decision is not made only on the number of backlinks. I also look at the SOC from MNF and the on page SEO of ranking pages.

        Originally Posted by giseo View Post

        Thanks for digging it up!
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        • Profile picture of the author welland
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post




          I personally take on sites that have up to 2000 links if their on page optimization is not good. The final decision is not made only on the number of backlinks. I also look at the SOC from MNF and the on page SEO of ranking pages.


          So, what do you think is more important? The number of sites indexed in google or the number of backlinks. I am still familiarizing myself with SEOQuake so I am not sure what to give more weight. Also, what do you consider good on page SEO? Just the 3% density right. So if a page has this, you will not go for it if they have over 2000 backlinks? Sorry if my questions seem elementary. I am new at this. Thanks for the youtube videos!
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    Huge! Marvelous Post,I like it
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    wow what a post man. You are a Rock !!!! I'm wattling for another post
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    This is absolute gold.

    There are many ways to make money online, I just think people do not work hard enough to find what their calling is. For me it is niche marketing. You can say that this doesnt work and all ebook you buy are scams, but I reckon 90% of people do do this are not action takers anyway. So they are wasiting their own time and the product creators in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author faysal9
    Such great post. i am surely gonna do as you said. already did keyword research..
    wish me luck
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      This is absolute gold.

      There are many ways to make money online, I just think people do not work hard enough to find what their calling is. For me it is niche marketing. You can say that this doesnt work and all ebook you buy are scams, but I reckon 90% of people do do this are not action takers anyway. So they are wasiting their own time and the product creators in the first place.
      Absolutely! TAKE ACTION - those are the only 2 words you want to succeed

      Originally Posted by faysal9 View Post

      Such great post. i am surely gonna do as you said. already did keyword research..
      wish me luck
      Well there you go! Perfect example of an ACTION TAKER! All the best to you!

      TAKE ACTION and BE PERSISTENT!
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  • Profile picture of the author Shawmanking
    Great thread! One of the best I've come across.
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  • Profile picture of the author LetsWin
    Wow. quite a trove of information.
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  • Profile picture of the author mathayus
    nice info, thx for the post, i will give it a try, i think everything is worth a try as long as its white hat
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  • Profile picture of the author Evanna Zainal
    I'm really sorry for this, but I really couldn't found where is the video that you mentioned in the 1st post..

    (7 YouTube Videos Below)
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    nothing to put here..

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  • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
    I think the video 1-2 is the first post, and 3-7 is here: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post3578602, which make a total of 7 videos.
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  • Profile picture of the author azncute0228
    This is the best thread I've ever read. Will likely follow your footsteps and hope that I'm in the right path. Many Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      I think the video 1-2 is the first post, and 3-7 is here: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post3578602, which make a total of 7 videos.
      Hey, thanks! I have to organize them and link them together. Been too busy lately

      Originally Posted by azncute0228 View Post

      This is the best thread I've ever read. Will likely follow your footsteps and hope that I'm in the right path. Many Thanks!
      Thanks and All the best
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      • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        Hey, thanks! I have to organize them and link them together. Been too busy lately
        Oh, you're very welcome =) I total understand cause I am in the same boat. Now I am just trying to rank #1.

        Originally Posted by Irham Dhani

        thanks Maine! already found it!
        You're welcome =) I am glad!
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

          Now I am just trying to rank #1.
          Once you're at the top (depending on the competition of course) quality can be better than quantity sometimes. Try press releases for example. Not just one, but a sequence of 'em @ 1/week for 3-4 weeks for example!

          It is also important not to get hung up trying to rank one site. In my first year, I was determined to bring the earnings of my only money maker at that time to $1000/month. I was doing like $500-1000 with this site. It was a really stupid thing... I never reached $1000 with that site and gave up after a very long time. I should have instead focused on making a new site and at the end of those wasted 6 months or whatever, I could have had 2 X $500 sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author theplugindude
    Thank you for this great post!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author themilliong
    Thanks. I have been there for a while but this post is surely the most detailed and workable for me to get started.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMKid
    wow, Chucky you seem to have given a lot of information since my last visit. I see that it's not complete yet well I think there's enough actionable information there for people anyways. I have been doing my spinning the way you suggested. I don't think I spin as much as you mentioned, but even then I feel I'm getting better index rate and rank boosting effect with what I'm doing. That was a real big eye opener for me. Thank you again man!
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas G
    One question -
    You said that : Main keyword has to be mentioned at a density of 2% (10 times per 500 words)
    Won't the article look a little spammy if the keyword is included 10 times in 500 words.

    And also, will adding a image to each post help.

    I asked you because I was reading this : http://www.seomoz.org/ugc/seo-myths-...eyword-density
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by IMKid View Post

      wow, Chucky you seem to have given a lot of information since my last visit. I see that it's not complete yet well I think there's enough actionable information there for people anyways. I have been doing my spinning the way you suggested. I don't think I spin as much as you mentioned, but even then I feel I'm getting better index rate and rank boosting effect with what I'm doing. That was a real big eye opener for me. Thank you again man!
      That's great news! Keep it up!

      Originally Posted by Thomas G View Post

      One question -
      You said that : Main keyword has to be mentioned at a density of 2% (10 times per 500 words)
      Won't the article look a little spammy if the keyword is included 10 times in 500 words.

      And also, will adding a image to each post help.

      I asked you because I was reading this : SEO Myths That Persist: Keyword Density - YOUmoz | SEOmoz
      I myself used to use a kw density of 1%. But then I saw a lot of people (even some videos inside StomperNet) recommending much higher figures. Recently I saw people recommending as much as 4%. That would surely look spammy. At least I know Google is fine with my 2%.
      Also, it depends on your kw. If your kw has only 2 words (e.g. green tea) it won't sound spammy. However, if your kw is a 5 word long tail kw like health benefits of green tea, it may sound different.
      In my case, these articles are simply search engine fodder. Once they are ranked, I write my sales pages myself and then I talk to people and not search engines.
      Yeah sure I add pictures to each image. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
    Some great tips in here Chucky! Glad to see you're still adding to this thread. Seems like your great attitude and work ethic has helped you a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author WeGotNthToDo
    Thanks Chucky for opening up this thread !!
    After a long time of reading, I finally finished reading these 8 pages of information!
    They are great!
    I'm very new to either IM or making money online, and this thread is absolutely inspiring.
    However, I have a question here , is all the product you promote is the one you familiar with?
    I'm thinking that if I don't have any knowledge of the product , how should I manage to make it profitable.
    Some more, English is my second language and I'm not good in writing article at all, I'm doubt that I'm not suitable for promoting something with an article.
    I really wish that I could success with these weaknesses.
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    • Profile picture of the author gudrunsmith
      Originally Posted by WeGotNthToDo View Post

      Thanks Chucky for opening up this thread !!

      Some more, English is my second language and I'm not good in writing article at all, I'm doubt that I'm not suitable for promoting something with an article.
      I really wish that I could success with these weaknesses.
      English is my second language, and that is for many people on the Internet. We are not writing for magazine or English paper! Write the way you talk. They say that most people have a reading level of a 7th grader, so just jump into the water and so more you write so better you get. It's just about doing it and not having excuses why you can't do it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by WeGotNthToDo View Post

      Thanks Chucky for opening up this thread !!
      After a long time of reading, I finally finished reading these 8 pages of information!
      They are great!
      I'm very new to either IM or making money online, and this thread is absolutely inspiring.
      However, I have a question here , is all the product you promote is the one you familiar with?
      I'm thinking that if I don't have any knowledge of the product , how should I manage to make it profitable.
      Some more, English is my second language and I'm not good in writing article at all, I'm doubt that I'm not suitable for promoting something with an article.
      I really wish that I could success with these weaknesses.
      If you were to start a business that is going to earn you multiple hundreds of dollars, how much are you willing to invest? How about $50? $10 for a domain, $17.50 for 5 articles @ 3.50 each from Odesk (that's what I pay, you may be able to get it for $3 or less), the rest for 3 months of hosting. By the end of the 3 months, you should surely have made at least a couple of sales (a typical $40 CB product gives you $26/sale) and should have money to invest in expanding your business. From that point onwards, the growth will be exponential.
      If you watched the videos, you would understand that English is my 2nd language too
      As gudrunsmith mentioned, that is not an excuse
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      • Profile picture of the author WeGotNthToDo
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        If you were to start a business that is going to earn you multiple hundreds of dollars, how much are you willing to invest? How about $50? $10 for a domain, $17.50 for 5 articles @ 3.50 each from Odesk (that's what I pay, you may be able to get it for $3 or less), the rest for 3 months of hosting. By the end of the 3 months, you should surely have made at least a couple of sales (a typical $40 CB product gives you $26/sale) and should have money to invest in expanding your business. From that point onwards, the growth will be exponential.
        If you watched the videos, you would understand that English is my 2nd language too
        As gudrunsmith mentioned, that is not an excuse
        Okay, thanks for the advises from you two. I'll start working on it now.
        So, it is better for me to purchase the WP also before I get it started?

        I'm trying to keep my cost as low as possible as I'm still studying and the currency exchange rate problem ><"
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by WeGotNthToDo View Post

          Okay, thanks for the advises from you two. I'll start working on it now.
          So, it is better for me to purchase the WP also before I get it started?

          I'm trying to keep my cost as low as possible as I'm still studying and the currency exchange rate problem ><"
          No need for Thesis theme yet. A regular WP blog should be fine. But please search WF as well as Google to see what WP themes people recommend for SEO purposes.

          Before I bought thesis I used a magazine theme free at that time called the Brandford magazine theme. It's not free anymore. I know that works because I still have two #1 positions that use that theme.

          If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author gudrunsmith
    Thanks Chucky! I didn't watch your videos yet, but you give good points and direction, will try out some of your tips to see how it works in my niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author StoneWilson
    Definitely worthy to read and try, keep coming, Churky!
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  • Profile picture of the author caseyscreen
    Thanks Chucky. You have shared nice ideas on internet marketing. I got some great idea from your post.
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  • Profile picture of the author presidentleaf
    thanks for sharing all this great information! i've been looking for a place with collective information.
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    Where is the Paypal button?
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    • Profile picture of the author WeGotNthToDo
      Undergoing a hard time to find my targeted niche market >< Too many products which are seem to be unknown for me..
      Also, is there any free tool for building a backlink ?
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      • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
        Hello Chucky.
        Its unimaginable that this you are willing to give back in this way. WOW!, I thought that I was a generous person until I read the pages of information which you have provided for free to anyone who has the initiative to use it. I am a 25 year paramedic and have been slowly getting into IM over the past year. I have been one of the many who has not taken action until recently when I acquired a hosting account and have started my keyword research. I am going to follow your information and hope you don't mind if I write back when I encounter a problem as I have never done any of this before. I do have plenty of time as well as determination so I don't believe that will be a problem. I already have market samurai. Could you say what other paid tools would be of benefit to a newbie. At this point I would be interested in the one time fee as opposed to monthly fees, I want to start making a little money first. Once again thanks so much for the information. Jimmy
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

          Hello Chucky.
          Its unimaginable that this you are willing to give back in this way. WOW!, I thought that I was a generous person until I read the pages of information which you have provided for free to anyone who has the initiative to use it. I am a 25 year paramedic and have been slowly getting into IM over the past year. I have been one of the many who has not taken action until recently when I acquired a hosting account and have started my keyword research. I am going to follow your information and hope you don't mind if I write back when I encounter a problem as I have never done any of this before. I do have plenty of time as well as determination so I don't believe that will be a problem. I already have market samurai. Could you say what other paid tools would be of benefit to a newbie. At this point I would be interested in the one time fee as opposed to monthly fees, I want to start making a little money first. Once again thanks so much for the information. Jimmy
          Thank you Jimmy for your kind words. Yes you're welcome to ask questions that you come across during the process.
          Great to know that you have time, determination and some money to invest. Now just focus on focusing!!

          One time payment tools.... you already have MS; you don't need ScrapeBox yet; Article Marketing Robot is good; Incansoft has a one time payment SENUKE alternative; they also have Social Bookmark, article distribution and RSS submission bots - all of them are one off payments. They're all priced at about $27 I think. However, Big Mike, the owner throws sales of their entire product range every once in a while and price them at ridiculously low prices like $7.77. I would not be surprised if he throws one around memorial day. If you can find his email and sign up for it, you will get that email when they have their next sale. Since you are still at the 'website building stage', you can wait a while to acquire these software.

          You will ultimately need Best Spinner. But I hear that SpinnerChief | The Best Spinner | article spinner | the best spinner | article rewrite software | free article spinner | article spinner software |top article rewriter | tool |creator | generator | article writing is as good which is completely free!

          All the best man! You sound like the man that will make it happen!

          We are both in the field of life sciences. I always find promoting health related products easy because I can write good reviews based on my knowledge of science. May be that will help you too, but you don't have to go with that!
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by jerytohn View Post

        Where is the Paypal button?


        Originally Posted by WeGotNthToDo View Post

        Undergoing a hard time to find my targeted niche market >< Too many products which are seem to be unknown for me..
        Also, is there any free tool for building a backlink ?
        Go to Amazon or ClickBank and look for best sellers! As simple as that.

        Write articles and submit to article directories and make web 2.0 blogs. Nothing beats those free backlinks
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    Congrats! That means you have money to invest! PM me for an offer you wont wanna miss ;P
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    • Profile picture of the author R0CKY
      Hi Chucky

      First I want to say thankyou for this inspirational thread. I have not got passed the first post yet though, because I tend to go over everything in the finest detail to get as much information as possible to use )

      Thanks for providing would-be affiliates with such inspiration with your success story!
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by R0CKY View Post

        Hi Chucky

        First I want to say thankyou for this inspirational thread. I have not got passed the first post yet though, because I tend to go over everything in the finest detail to get as much information as possible to use )

        Thanks for providing would-be affiliates with such inspiration with your success story!
        You really do pay attention to details! That's a very good quality to have in my opinion. In fact, I have this guy that I have trained to make websites and I have not yet had a single site he has made flawlessly. So I was telling him the other day that he should pay attention to detail and that it is one quality that distinguishes great people from the rest (I don't know if that's true, I was just trying to get him to do the job correctly ).

        Anyways, to answer your question, the address bar shows a different address because that's a reseller account of hostgator. With a reseller account you have a MAIN account and inside that you have all the others. That is the reason you're seeing two sites there.

        All the best to you! BTW, paying attention is great, however, it is equally important to not get bogged down on certain things and move on to the next step, which I myself struggle with!
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        • Profile picture of the author R0CKY
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          You really do pay attention to details! That's a
          All the best to you! BTW, paying attention is great, however, it is equally important to not get bogged down on certain things and move on to the next step, which I myself struggle with!
          Good advice!

          I can't PM here because of my post count, I can't even REPLY to PM's. Could you please contactl me at support at myqualityhost dot com as I have something for you.

          Thanks again.
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    Congrat man and thank you so much for your great post, it will help me lots.
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    • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
      Hello Chucky. Just curious if you are willing to share this information. You might have already provided this information but what would be a % breakdown from where you earn your income, such as amazon, clickbank and commission junction? Could you also give some parameters you use to decide what you will go after? In clickbank, what is a gravity range that you want and not to seem ignorant but exactly what is gravity an indicator of? Sorry for all the questions but if one doesn't ask, one never learns. Thanks again for all the information. Jimmy
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

        Hello Chucky. Just curious if you are willing to share this information. You might have already provided this information but what would be a % breakdown from where you earn your income, such as amazon, clickbank and commission junction? Could you also give some parameters you use to decide what you will go after? In clickbank, what is a gravity range that you want and not to seem ignorant but exactly what is gravity an indicator of? Sorry for all the questions but if one doesn't ask, one never learns. Thanks again for all the information. Jimmy
        On a regular month, about 55% is from CJ, 30% from CB and 15% from Amazon.
        I do look at gravity to make sure it's a 'selling' product. In my opinion, you shouldn't look at numbers for the following reasons. Let's say you have 2 products with a gravity of 200 and 25. It tells you more of the former has been sold within the last 2 weeks or 1 month or whatever. But that may be because 10,000 people visited that sales page where as only 100 people were brought to the other sales page (the one with a gravity of 25).
        What you want is to find out which is the better product and then promote it. You should ideally buy the products to find out which is better, if not at least go to the sales page and find out which one will solve the problem better and will have a better conversion rate. Since you are most likely bringing traffic to a 'generic search term' and not a 'product name', you can always change the product later on down the lane.
        How to select a product? Look at the best sellers in Amazon or ClickBank (by gravity); select a relevant kw (product name or otherwise) or a group of kw; gauge if it has commercial intent; start the project
        Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Hi Chucky,
    how are you doing this weekend?
    Please i need a bit of advise about niche/keyword selection.

    When you're targeting a particular amazon product, say you want to do a review for and electronics product for instance, how do you determine the right keyword for the domain name?

    And also how do you determine if a product has commercial intent?

    Hope to hear from you soon.

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    I believe I addressed the 'how to select the domain name part' to the best of my knowledge on the original post.

    Commercial intent
    A very simple test you can do is to search 'if there are enough and more affiliates promoting it'. If there are, the chances are it has a good commercial intent.

    Are there a lot of Google adwords ads? Are there FaceBook ads? Are the sites that are ranking in organic results affiliate sites? Does Amazon have it listed as a best selling product for that category? If it's a CB product, how's the gravity? What's the adwords cost? Is it 5 cents or is it $2 (SpyFu)

    There used to be a commercial intent tool from Microsoft MSN, but I believe it doesn't function anymore!

    Sometimes, you do all of this and yet you find that you got it wrong. Still happens to me which means I have not mastered this aspect well. It is believed that the best way to know the commercial intent is to run some adwords ads targeting the kw of interest. If these ads bring you sales, then your SEO efforts are likely to bring you success. If the traffic that clicks your ads for the same kw do not buy the product, the chances are that these kw have poor commercial intent. I've never done this. But I can see why it's the correct way to do it!

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author highave1
    Chucky! I never seen ever this types of thread before.First of all congrats for your success! I'll follow and try to do like ..
    Thanks for sharing here
    Good luck!
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    This is a great guide i learned a few tricks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Sherret
    Chucky,

    Awesome job and so unselfish of you to share all the knowledge you have gained with hard work over the years. To accomplish what you have while studying and attending school is just unbelievable! Kudos and I know you will stay the course for your formal education. (although you would probably make more $ doing IM) It is not always about the $ but about being happy in what you do in life!

    Highest regards,

    Edson
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    Hi Chucky,
    thanks for answering my question.
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    • Profile picture of the author SeoVancouverWa
      Chuck,

      I have to say something here....what you have done in this thread is just amazing for everyone that has read what you have typed. The information in this thread is invaluable if put to use.

      I want to say one thing about Amazon...during the holiday season it is CRAZY! If you can get ranked high, or even moderately high, for keywords with buying intent you will be STUNNED at the sales you can make.

      I did not experience this until last year and was shocked. Unfortunately for me the Big G sandboxed my two best sites on Thanksgiving night...honestly it ruined my day because I knew the money I was about NOT to make!!

      Even though this cost me THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of dollars I did see what is possible with Amazon during the lead up to Christmas. It was simple AWESOME.

      When I say you can make a full YEARS good income in just a couple of months with Amazon. I am not exaggerating. But you need to get those sites built and get them ranked for buying keywords. Don't wait. If you don't have the sites up now...you need to get to getting.

      Once September hits you will see sales start to increase day after day, week after week, and once Black Friday gets here....hang on!! It is an awful lot of fun.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by kaitokid View Post

        I bought the domain name (org) for 2 weeks ago....

        I just saw your thread yesterday so I didn't know how the good way to post my articles lol

        I can give you the details but i can't PM you because my post under 10 :p

        so what is your email..?
        I'm sorry man, extremely busy these days and unfortunately I don't have time for private consultation at that level I will answer any generic question. About, competition analysis, I believe I've addressed what I know on the videos and thread. Good luck!

        Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

        Hello again Chucky. I know you are busy and hate to bother you with something I should probably know. I notice that you mention a "sticky post" on several occasions. Could you explain to a newbie exactly what a sticky post is? Thanks again for all your information. Jimmy
        No worries man!

        On a typical blog, the homepage will be updated with the latest blogs - thus dynamic (vs static HTML sites). In other words, the homepage will become different every time you post something new. Since different posts will be optimized for different keywords, Google will have a hard time ranking your homepage (except in the cases of high authority sites with gazillions of backlinks to the homepage saying this homepage is about 'primary keyword' - you and I are not going to have that luxury).

        To overcome this 'deficiency' in a blog, you can 'stick' a post or page to the homepage so that even if you keep updating your blog with new posts, the sticky post will always stay on the homepage. It doesn't always have to be a post, you can stick a page too. I'm not sure it matters; I stick 'posts' and it works. I have seen others suggesting that you stick pages.

        This is why I always optimize one post to the 'theme kw' and stick it to the homepage. That way, my homepage is optimized for the theme kw and I have two URLs for which I can build links with anchor text optimized for my theme kw.

        <a href="http://mythemekeyword.com/theme-keyword-reviews">theme keyword</a>

        and

        <a href="http://mythemekeyword.com/">theme keyword</a>

        That way I'm not blasting the homepage ONLY with backlinks which will look unnatural in Google's eyes.

        I will use the theme keyword as well as secondary kws as anchor texts to build links to other posts/pages of my site. Other pages will also point at the sticky post and homepage with anchor text with my theme kw.

        Got it?

        KaitoKid has done a good job explaining how to 'stick' a post; here's a site that I found on Google that seems to be explaining the same process using images etc. I haven't read it, but it looked like it does a good job on first glance.

        Sticky Posts in Wordpress

        Good luck and feel free to ask questions!



        Originally Posted by kaitokid View Post

        if you mean sticky post on wordpress

        post --> add new --> at right panel publish, there is a sentence like this
        klik edit and check "Stick this post to the front page"

        do you want to know the different? add some articles and then open your homepage
        Thanks kid!

        Originally Posted by edson View Post

        Chucky,

        Awesome job and so unselfish of you to share all the knowledge you have gained with hard work over the years. To accomplish what you have while studying and attending school is just unbelievable! Kudos and I know you will stay the course for your formal education. (although you would probably make more $ doing IM) It is not always about the $ but about being happy in what you do in life!

        Highest regards,

        Edson
        Thanks Edson; the beauty of this business model is that you can have the soup and the beard IM is amazing!

        Originally Posted by SeoVancouverWa View Post

        Chuck,

        I have to say something here....what you have done in this thread is just amazing for everyone that has read what you have typed. The information in this thread is invaluable if put to use.

        I want to say one thing about Amazon...during the holiday season it is CRAZY! If you can get ranked high, or even moderately high, for keywords with buying intent you will be STUNNED at the sales you can make.

        I did not experience this until last year and was shocked. Unfortunately for me the Big G sandboxed my two best sites on Thanksgiving night...honestly it ruined my day because I knew the money I was about NOT to make!!

        Even though this cost me THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of dollars I did see what is possible with Amazon during the lead up to Christmas. It was simple AWESOME.

        When I say you can make a full YEARS good income in just a couple of months with Amazon. I am not exaggerating. But you need to get those sites built and get them ranked for buying keywords. Don't wait. If you don't have the sites up now...you need to get to getting.

        Once September hits you will see sales start to increase day after day, week after week, and once Black Friday gets here....hang on!! It is an awful lot of fun.
        Hey, thanks!

        I actually said the same thing in one of the videos "full YEARS good income in just a couple of months with Amazon"

        How on earth did they get Sand Boxed? Do you mean a real 'Sand Box' or just a dance? It happened to me too, in 2009. I was happy with where I was and didn't build any links or add content for like 6 months and I was still holding position. I think I was like 5-6 and I STRONGLY believed I couldn't rise anywhere above that considering who was above me (boy was I wrong ). Then what happened was I also disappeared from the 1st page about 2 weeks before thanksgiving. I believe that was because the other guys/companies updated their sites with new offers for BFriday etc. while I remained static.

        I was able to bring it back with a few EzineArticle submissions and a few posts, but it was already past BF. But in 2010, I started adding fresh content and backlinks to these sites from about September and had steady multiple #1s on BF.

        Yes, I also made a lot of sales just sitting at #5-6 as well!
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        • Profile picture of the author SeoVancouverWa
          Well I got sandboxed and, in fact, those two sites are still struggling. They are ranked very very high on Yahoo and Bing (same thing) but almost no where on Google. Very frustrating and I am not sure why.

          The traffic from Google is so much better!!!

          You also hit on something else, updating content. On some sites you do not need to do that, but it sure seems to work well for a lot of sites. Adding content on a regular basis really seems to help.

          And I am not talking about adding a bunch of pages...just adding a few paragraphs here and there and updating your existing pages seems to help...just don't go too crazy updating existing pages.

          It makes me laugh when I hear people say that you can't make much on Amazon. That is completely not true. The thing with Amazon is what you mentioned in one of your videos...when people get there in a buying mood they buy LOTS and LOTS of things...it is incredible.

          Hopefully I can get these sites back up...one of them hit number 3 on the first page of Google the day before Thanksgiving...woohooo! The sales were CRAZY. Then the party ended about 5:30PM Thanksgiving night. I was seriously sick. Losing just that site probably cost me $5000 over a three week period....maybe more.

          Anyway, great information....now if people will just use it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nulli Secundus
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    • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
      Thanks so much for your explanation of a "sticky post". Your explanations are always very clear and easy to understand. Continued success to you. Jimmy
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  • Profile picture of the author bestbuddy1986
    Hi chucky, thanks for this awesome thread.

    After reading this thread, i remembered of my website which i started for adsense but never looked after it.

    But now i checked, that site is based on kids toy and has "1,300" exact search for keyword and i have .net domain.

    When i made tht website i had added amazon product link to some Anchor text keywords in content. So i checked today in amazon and i found tht i got 26 clicks in May. But problem was tht i was using same tracking code for all my previous sites. So don't know are those clicks are for tht product site.

    So forget past..Now i remade tht site as per ur suggestions..on page like u told..made sticky post with good keyword density.

    I placed Amazon Text and Image widget below Post Title and also in right sidebar.

    currently tht website is seating at position 45 for its theme keyword and getting daily 1-2 visits

    So should i start working on it as it has 1,300 exact search for theme kw?
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by SeoVancouverWa View Post

      You also hit on something else, updating content. On some sites you do not need to do that, but it sure seems to work well for a lot of sites. Adding content on a regular basis really seems to help.

      And I am not talking about adding a bunch of pages...just adding a few paragraphs here and there and updating your existing pages seems to help...just don't go too crazy updating existing pages.
      I have also noticed that (some sites don't need to be updated); I am wondering if that depends on your competition. If they also don't add new content and/or backlinks, you may not need to do it as well? I don't know this, I haven't been checking on my competition at that level.

      Just add a few paragraphs ha? Never tried that before. But I have tried adding small posts (250 words) and those seems to be good enough for maintenance; you don't always need those 500 word articles anymore to maintain top positions (disclaimer: with my very limited experience, on the sites I've tried)

      Originally Posted by Nulli Secundus View Post

      What an amazing post, I can't thank you enough. I've used this for reference more times than I can count!
      You're most welcome. Good to see that you're taking action!

      Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

      I have plenty of time and determination, I will get it! Jimmy
      That's the main thing you need buddy!

      WHAT YOU THINK MANIFESTS!

      SUCCESS COMES TO YOU NOT THE WAY YOU THINK IT WILL COME, BUT THE WAY YOU THINK!!!

      Originally Posted by bestbuddy1986 View Post

      Hi chucky, thanks for this awesome thread.

      After reading this thread, i remembered of my website which i started for adsense but never looked after it.

      But now i checked, that site is based on kids toy and has "1,300" exact search for keyword and i have .net domain.

      When i made tht website i had added amazon product link to some Anchor text keywords in content. So i checked today in amazon and i found tht i got 26 clicks in May. But problem was tht i was using same tracking code for all my previous sites. So don't know are those clicks are for tht product site.

      So forget past..Now i remade tht site as per ur suggestions..on page like u told..made sticky post with good keyword density.

      I placed Amazon Text and Image widget below Post Title and also in right sidebar.

      currently tht website is seating at position 45 for its theme keyword and getting daily 1-2 visits

      So should i start working on it as it has 1,300 exact search for theme kw?
      Oh yeah, that's definitely a winning niche; people go crazy buying toys at Christmas. I'm also in this niche; but unfortunately some of them make VERY LITTLE sales during the rest of the year. One of these toy niches that I'm in haven't made a sale since Christmas for me, despite having 3 sites at #1, #3 and #6-7. Very frustrating

      Oh yes, do start backlinking please. If you have 1,300 exact searches on a regular month (I suspect some of these searches come from kids themselves because I get no sales) expect over 13,000 searches during Nov-Dec which makes up for the whole year

      BTW, I don't just depend on these widgets. I say in BIG BOLD letters, CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THIS ---- TOY. THIS IS AWESOME, YOUR KIDS WILL LOVE THIS kind of thing.

      Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author longhorn
    @ Chacky:
    Man, you are changing lives here!!!
    Thank you for giving us your time and knowledge!

    There is a couple of questions that I'd like to ask you:
    How do you actually select digital products to promote from clickbank or CJ? Do you buy them yourself first?
    I noticed your remark that you sell only digital prods created by others.
    Have you ever thought about creating your own ebook(s) to put on clickbank? What would be cons and pros of that?

    I can't thank you enough....
    All the best to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author junilerick
    Hey Chucky,

    I was just wondering what your thoughts are on article backlinks considering the Panda update not so long ago. Also, what has been your experience with profile links?

    I've also been wondering about using a sticky post. Sure it keeps the homepage's content fresh when you add new posts yet still have the main content easily visible, but isn't it possible to detract from the on-page SEO in terms of keyword density and all that? Just curious.

    Last question, would you avoid a keyword that looks "easy" but where the first page is littered with edu and gov sites?

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by longhorn View Post

      @ Chacky:
      Man, you are changing lives here!!!
      Thank you for giving us your time and knowledge!

      There is a couple of questions that I'd like to ask you:
      How do you actually select digital products to promote from clickbank or CJ? Do you buy them yourself first?
      I noticed your remark that you sell only digital prods created by others.
      Have you ever thought about creating your own ebook(s) to put on clickbank? What would be cons and pros of that?

      I can't thank you enough....
      All the best to you.
      Thank you for your kind comments! You can thank me by earning BIG BUCKS online

      I only buy digital products when I see that they are selling well. Then I would purchase it (or ask for it by writing to the vendor - so far the vendor has given me the product all 3 times I asked) do a PROPER review (e.g. chapter by chapter review etc.) and that would boost my conversions. Something I've wanted to do, but haven't done yet is tell my visitors "Enter your email address to get the chapter by chapter review; that way I will also build the list; have a sales funnel etc. etc. - all the good stuff". I'm sure that will boost the conversions even more.

      Creating my own book - Many pros because there is supposed to be an army of affiliates with lists of 100,000s buyers. I think that is definitely the right thing to do. But unfortunately, as I'm still a student, this is not my priority right now. But will most likely end up doing it down the lane if I believe I can provide people true value; not because it will make me a ton of sales.

      Feel free to ask whatever questions you get.... except asking me if I can take a look at your sites and see what can be improved I get a ton of PMs requesting that and unfortunately I have to turn them down.

      Originally Posted by junilerick View Post

      Hey Chucky,

      I was just wondering what your thoughts are on article backlinks considering the Panda update not so long ago. Also, what has been your experience with profile links?

      I've also been wondering about using a sticky post. Sure it keeps the homepage's content fresh when you add new posts yet still have the main content easily visible, but isn't it possible to detract from the on-page SEO in terms of keyword density and all that? Just curious.

      Last question, would you avoid a keyword that looks "easy" but where the first page is littered with edu and gov sites?

      Thanks!
      Hey,

      I continue to use articles in many ways.

      My first layer of links (directly pointing to the money site) have web 2.0 blogs like Blogger, wordpress.com, press releases, article directories (the better ones like Ezine, GoArticles, ArticlesBase etc.), videos, software submissions etc. Also a few high PR profile links (.com, .edu whatever that I find to be high PR).

      Then my second layer has more web 2.0 blogs, bookmarks, profile links and articles via mass article distribution (AMR and I sometimes buy a few services from the warriors for hire section). I do multiple AMR submissions over and over and schedule them so that articles are published at a rate of 100/24 hours. However, I'm finding that only 15-20 articles get actually published out of these 100. But I don't think that matters. AMR right now has over 7000 directories, but only about 600 - 1000 are successfully published. But I'm not complaining, that's plenty to me. Besides, I don't think 7000 copies of the same spun article will get indexed or give me any additional benefit than the 700 that get published.

      This was my strategy before Panda and it remains the same after Panda. If I take articles and profile links out of the equation, would my results be any different? I have no idea!

      But as far as ranking articles; I'm not even going to try. I had several Ezine articles, 1 GoArticle and 1 ArticlesBase article and a couple of press releases that were ranking. I lost all of them. Fortunately they were not my big earners.

      I don't think you've gotten hold of the sticky post concept properly. The whole idea behind using a sticky post is to avoid the homepage refreshing. You make it static, so that your on page SEO factors stay constant. I always set my homepage to display only 1 post and that post is my sticky. If you set your homepage to display 3 posts with one sticky, then what you say can happen. Got it?

      I can't give a definitive answer to your last question because I haven't tried ranking a site under such circumstances. My gut feeling is that if SERPs have .gov and .edu, it's probably an informational phrase (unless it's something like Govt Grants which can be monetized as well). I'm not sure, if their on page and off page factors are poorer than yours you should theoretically be able to outrank them. But would their 'authority aka trust' factor weigh against you? I don't know!

      Hope that helps!
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    Its marvelous thread you created.Its totally amazing man
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    • Profile picture of the author Eyethink
      Hi Chucky,

      Just wanted to add my thanks for the effort that you've put into this thread.

      I own a number of WSOs and other SEO guides and you've given all of us the same material for free.

      Much appreciated!!
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        Originally Posted by Eyethink View Post

        Hi Chucky,

        ...

        I own a number of WSOs and other SEO guides and you've given all of us the same material for free.
        It's not the same material - it's better than a lot of stuff out there

        Plus it's more real, straightforward and explained by someone who doesn't claim to be a guru and have all the answers, much better in my opinion!

        Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Vlad Romanov
    Hello Chucky, I am new to the whole IM community and have been lurking here and backlinkinkforums for quite a while. I have a small blog with iphone game reviews and it is currently making abou 0.50$ per day in adsense. I realized how many mistakes I made by reading this thread, so thank you a whole lot on that...

    I am planning on keeping the blog and would like to know, if you have time obviously, what changes should I make to increase traffic and revenue from my ads? The site is iphonegamespace.com (cant post links yet due to my post count...)

    Thanks again for providing such in detail guides, it was very helpful and looking forward to reading more work by you.

    EDIT: lol i just read ur previous comment about not taking looks at existing sites, well it is understandable you get so many requests. Thanks with whatever you can provide, keep it up!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      It's not the same material - it's better than a lot of stuff out there

      Plus it's more real, straightforward and explained by someone who doesn't claim to be a guru and have all the answers, much better in my opinion!

      Mark
      Thank you Mark, appreciate those words. I hope people appreciate that and not downgrade the info just because it's free. I guess it's part of human nature to assume that higher the price - better the quality.

      Thanks again Mark!

      Originally Posted by NastyDevil View Post

      Hello Chucky, I am new to the whole IM community and have been lurking here and backlinkinkforums for quite a while. I have a small blog with iphone game reviews and it is currently making abou 0.50$ per day in adsense. I realized how many mistakes I made by reading this thread, so thank you a whole lot on that...

      I am planning on keeping the blog and would like to know, if you have time obviously, what changes should I make to increase traffic and revenue from my ads? The site is iphonegamespace.com (cant post links yet due to my post count...)

      Thanks again for providing such in detail guides, it was very helpful and looking forward to reading more work by you.

      EDIT: lol i just read ur previous comment about not taking looks at existing sites, well it is understandable you get so many requests. Thanks with whatever you can provide, keep it up!
      Hey, thank you for understanding. I just took a 30 second look at your site and what I could see is that your AdSense ads are not in the 'hot-spots'. You might want to read a little bit about the optimum kind of ads and ad placement. Search for a thread on AdSense by John aka X Factor here on WF and you'll find plenty of valuable free tips there.

      Ask yourself these questions. What is your main kw? Is it one with high commercial intent? Do you think people that come to your site are looking to buy things or rather free information seekers? What products do your competitors promote? How have they monetized their sites?

      I feel that there are plenty of 'free games/cheap apps' in that niche and that you may not be able to monetize it too profitably. Of course, I may be totally wrong; I'm not working in these niches. But if the answers to those questions happen to be what I feared, may be you should embark on a new niche, one that can be monetized better although it may not be your specialty. Failing fast is WAY BETTER THAN failing slow. Besides, if you learned a lesson about picking a monetizable market, it's not even a failure. It's a success!

      Pick a top selling product on Amazon. Now that cannot be a failure. It's a top seller. In that case, you should probably not pick the main kw (product name); but there will be plenty of sub-niches with plenty of low competition high commercial value kw such as kw review, kw deals, kw for 12 year olds, kw for toddlers, kw for kids; boys; girls; adults, best type of kw for toddlers etc. etc that are bound to be winners.

      Don't hesitate to bring on your questions other than 'please do a X-ray of my site'

      Hope that helps!
      Chucky
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt Henninger
    Hey man, cool info for seasoned IMers. Good stuff
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Chase
    This is an amazing thread - one of the most helpful I have seen on this or any other forum!

    Thanks Chucky!
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    • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
      Hey Chucky, just dropping by here to say you're awesome!

      I've been inactive here cause I'm too busy producing websites =)
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  • Profile picture of the author junilerick
    Hey Chucky,

    I hope everything is going great with you, have 2 quick questions if you got the time,

    1) Google Wonder Wheel no longer seems to be operational, what other tool would you recommend in finding secondary keywords? Perhaps I should just use GAKT?

    2) Are there any link building services that you could recommend? I figure, for example, if it'll cost $60 for all the links for a site that will potentially make more than that every month, then it would be well worth it to outsource that type of work to the "experts," especially considering that I'm not sure what sort of link building is the most effective and would rather spend a little on testing first before I invest in something larger (will be doing some case studies) I heard Hoist Seo is quite good, any experience with them or others?
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    Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

    Hey Chucky, just dropping by here to say you're awesome!

    I've been inactive here cause I'm too busy producing websites =)
    That's great to hear! The more the merrier! If you're targeting BF (or otherwise), you have to have multiple websites to get considerable commissions. Try and cover what women buy; kids buy; men buy for Christmas!

    Originally Posted by junilerick View Post

    Hey Chucky,

    I hope everything is going great with you, have 2 quick questions if you got the time,

    1) Google Wonder Wheel no longer seems to be operational, what other tool would you recommend in finding secondary keywords? Perhaps I should just use GAKT?

    2) Are there any link building services that you could recommend? I figure, for example, if it'll cost $60 for all the links for a site that will potentially make more than that every month, then it would be well worth it to outsource that type of work to the "experts," especially considering that I'm not sure what sort of link building is the most effective and would rather spend a little on testing first before I invest in something larger (will be doing some case studies) I heard Hoist Seo is quite good, any experience with them or others?
    Hey,

    Wonder wheel works perfectly fine for me. Just checked for multiple search phrases. Clear your cache; restart the comp and try again.

    The only problem is for $60, you don't get a lot of bang for your buck. An article directory submission service will give you like 5 spun articles max (check out a service on warriors for hire run by a guy named Apoorv; I've used it with good success). In contrast, I get like 1000 submissions/month by spending around $300 (Ultra Spinnable Articles; UAW, Art. ranks, AMR, SENUKE). I didn't do that at the beginning obviously. But the cheapest for you would be to subscribe to one or two of the minis at the leading articles ($17/month) and then to subscribe to article ranks and UAW on alternating months.

    I'm also subscribed to a blog commenting service called 'Easy Blog Comments' (A WSO run by a guy called MetaFever). I think it's good; but I've only been with them for 2 months, so I can't tell you anything definitively.

    Hoist SEO, I think does profile links right? I haven't done any profile link building after Panda; so I can't give you a correct answer. I do profile linking everyday using Don and Jeremy's Mega Link Blaster (1500 profiles/day); but those are not directly on my money site, but as a Tier 2 or 3.

    Sorry bud, there is no EASY BUTTON that I know of!
    Chucky

    Originally Posted by ro1h02n4 View Post

    Hey Chucky,

    Thank you very much for this gold topic!!
    Believe me that I take right now notes like I was in primary school.
    I hope that I have enough strength and wisdom to put in practice all your valuable advices.


    Cheers!
    All the best man! I'm sure it's only a matter of time until you earn your 6 figures.
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    • Profile picture of the author junilerick
      Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

      The only problem is for $60, you don't get a lot of bang for your buck. An article directory submission service will give you like 5 spun articles max (check out a service on warriors for hire run by a guy named Apoorv; I've used it with good success). In contrast, I get like 1000 submissions/month by spending around $300 (Ultra Spinnable Articles; UAW, Art. ranks, AMR, SENUKE). I didn't do that at the beginning obviously. But the cheapest for you would be to subscribe to one or two of the minis at the leading articles ($17/month) and then to subscribe to article ranks and UAW on alternating months.
      Thanks for the detailed reply as always!

      When you say 1000 submissions, does each submission consist of hundreds or thousands of submits to different directories and networks?

      I've checked out Leading Articles before but couldn't really figure out what they're offering exactly. It seems that you only get to choose the broad niche topic, is that correct? So you might have a website about, HD TVs, for example, and leading articles would just give you articles on electronics in general? Do you alter them yourself such as adding in your own anchor text into the spintax? Or am I just completely wrong about this?:confused:

      I don't really understand the alternating between UAW and Article Ranks part. Do you just mean gradually sign up to these services one at a time when I'm able to afford it?

      So I guess you're a firm believer in doing everything yourself through software as opposed to backlink services? I'm just afraid I'll go crazy with something like SeNuke X with all the setup, proxies, and not to mention the price. Well, maybe I should start with purchasing AMR and go from there? Although last time I tried the AMR trial, I don't think any of my articles were indexed (I sent like 1000 in total)
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by mahmoud747 View Post

        Hello chunky
        I have to thank you for your informative posts, im kinda a newbie and at i have learned a lot from it
        as my english is not very good , there are some things that i can not totally understand
        so i will tell u briefly what i have done , as that is my first website i want you to kindly review it
        1-kw's and pages
        i selected 4 kw's and create one page for each kw , the pages addressed as follows
        www.mysite.com/kewword-one
        www.mysite.com/kewword-two , etc
        i did not block my site while adding content so all pages were indexed including privacy, contact us and terms
        hope you can help me how to get them deindexed and make them nofollow because i did not understand this from posts , may be im a little dumb
        and do you have any suggestions and notices about this part ?
        You can noindex nofollow the legal pages using All in One SEO plugin I believe. On each page, as you scroll down, you should see these options and you can check them. For sure platinum SEO plugin lets you do it. I don't know if it is a good idea to get them 'deindexed' now that they're already indexed. I haven't done it; you'll have to ask someone that is an expert at it or just leave them as they are. It's up to you!


        2-Content
        in every page the keyword is in H1,H2, bold in the first paragraph and italic in the last paragraph, kw density is 1%
        should i have a clickable kw phrase pointing to the same page ?
        I make kw density 2%, I've seen others recommend 3 - 4%.
        Yes, I do hyperlinks pointing to the same page as well.
        about links that pointing to another sites
        i have text phrases linking to wikipedia and amazon(aff link) using normal linking method in wp
        and banners from amazon with my aff link embedded
        does all these links will affect my link juice ? is it necessary to make those links nofollow including banners ? and how i could do so ?
        I usually only include my affy links after the site starts to rank (I don't know if it has any favorable effect or not). You can make them no follow by adding rel="nofollow" inside the link in the HTML code, please do a Google search to find out exactly how. Or I have listed plugins that make outgoing links nofollow automatically
        3-plugins
        i only installed these plugins
        1-all in one seo
        2-google analytics
        3-google xml sitemap
        4-contact
        5-privacy

        is there any other plugins you would suggest ?
        thanks in advance
        see you
        Yes, I have listed them in the on page SEO section on the first page of the thread!
        Good luck!

        Originally Posted by junilerick View Post

        Thanks for the detailed reply as always!

        When you say 1000 submissions, does each submission consist of hundreds or thousands of submits to different directories and networks?
        Each submission will go to about 250+ sites via UAW etc. That's what I meant. With AMR, it's 1000+ with a single article. There may be overlap between UAW, AMR, AR etc. I haven't tried to find out

        I've checked out Leading Articles before but couldn't really figure out what they're offering exactly. It seems that you only get to choose the broad niche topic, is that correct? So you might have a website about, HD TVs, for example, and leading articles would just give you articles on electronics in general? Do you alter them yourself such as adding in your own anchor text into the spintax? Or am I just completely wrong about this?:confused:
        No you're right! The best type of article would be if the article is relevant. But if you can't get that (many top SEO guys like Leslie Rhodie argue that Google can't figure out relevancy - I think I give the example of Brad Fallon's IM site giving links out to his wedding favors site); non-relevant links are the next best. That's what I've been using and it has worked for me.
        At the end of the article or beginning (if the directory accepts links at the beginning), just say in addition to articles on xxx, the author also writes about HDTVs!! Problem solved!


        I don't really understand the alternating between UAW and Article Ranks part. Do you just mean gradually sign up to these services one at a time when I'm able to afford it?
        If you can afford to pay for multiple article distribution services at the same time, go for it. If you can't, subscribe service A this month but to service B next month. On month 2, you submit all those 30 articles you submitted to service A on 1st month. Got it?

        So I guess you're a firm believer in doing everything yourself through software as opposed to backlink services? I'm just afraid I'll go crazy with something like SeNuke X with all the setup, proxies, and not to mention the price. Well, maybe I should start with purchasing AMR and go from there? Although last time I tried the AMR trial, I don't think any of my articles were indexed (I sent like 1000 in total)
        Yup, AMR would be the best choice if you're on a tight budget. I've seen my articles get indexed in as little as 3 mins. The first time I used it, I made a unique name like JunileauxRicksh, check that on Google to make sure it doesn't exist anywhere, then use it as your username and submit articles. 10 minutes later, do a search on Google for the above username and you will see that your articles are getting distributed
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        • Profile picture of the author junilerick
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          At the end of the article or beginning (if the directory accepts links at the beginning), just say in addition to articles on xxx, the author also writes about HDTVs!! Problem solved!
          LOL that's a nice quick fix.

          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          Yup, AMR would be the best choice if you're on a tight budget. I've seen my articles get indexed in as little as 3 mins. The first time I used it, I made a unique name like JunileauxRicksh, check that on Google to make sure it doesn't exist anywhere, then use it as your username and submit articles. 10 minutes later, do a search on Google for the above username and you will see that your articles are getting distributed
          Really, 3 minutes? I think did my submissions like 3 weeks ago and I still don't see any of them when I check in site explorer. I know for sure that I submitted them since I checked some of them out through the live links in AMR. Perhaps it's just not showing up in site explorer but it's actually indexed? Do you index them by pinging, RSS feeds, or social bookmarking?

          I thought AMR and UAW basically do the same thing but where AMR trumps UAW in every aspect, is there actually some minute difference I'm not picking up on? Do you use UAW simply for link diversity or does UAW give higher quality links or..?

          All this backlinking stuff is really killing me lol, can you tell? I think perhaps a viable plan would be to get AMR along with a spinner software first. Then maybe get Magic Submitter (or Sick Submitter) for RSS feeds, bookmarking, and profile links. Or maybe just go with RSS Bot and outsource the other two for cheap. If you really boil it down, what do you think are the absolute essential types of backlinks in your campaign? Would you say web 2.0s are a must? There's so many possible combinations that it's driving me insane with my measly budget (or I would have just gone with SENuke). It's time like these when I wish I wasn't living in a capitalistic society full of choices and free will.

          Thanks again, Chucky, the "go to" guy!
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    Thanks for the latest post chucky. I have failed to find this topic using the search function. I refreshed my page then and saw this topic just sittin there, nice! Thanks also for this awesome topic!
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  • Profile picture of the author sebski22
    Hey Chuky,

    Just want to say what a great thread this is.

    I have spent the last few years dabbling with IM and seen some very small returns from my hard work. I'm hoping to get at it Full Time this year and your information is giving me some great ideas of where I need to be focusing my attention.

    I have a few websites now that are ticking over very gently and I am looking to expand my portfolio massively over the next 6 months to turn this small amount of income into justifiable earnings so I can be in a position to leave my 9-5.

    I have one good Clickbank Site, and a couple of Amazon sites.

    I am looking to invest around $200 per month plus any earnings I make, which are currently around $150.00 at the moment into my website expansion so possibly $350pm in total.

    Could you give me any advice about outsourcing/automating the process?

    I only have one spare day a week to work on my sites and the odd hour on an evening so I need a streamlined approach. Here is My Process at the moment can you see if there are any areas you would improve on?

    1. KW Research: (I use "Micro Niche Espionage" I purchased here on the WF)
    · Identify 1 Theme KW to Rank high with.
    · Identify 3 - 4 secondary KW's to support main Theme KW

    2. Send KWs to Article Writer to create 5/6 unique posts...this costs me $20 per 5 articles

    · 2 posts on Unique KW
    · 1 post on each secondary KW

    3. Choose a good EMD for high ranking

    4. Install WP on domain

    5. Add Theme, (currently looking to purchase Thesis but at the moment using FREEBIES...is Thesis worth it?)

    6. Install the FREE plugins you mention in your First Post. (No Paid Plugins, again are they essential?)

    7. Add Content(Should I outsource this as setting up on page SEO is tedious? if so any idea of cost per site? or purchase WPdesktop?)

    8. Drip Feed Content every 2 - 3 days

    9. After Content is all Published I Pay for a backlink service to create Link Pyramid, EDU links and Profile Backlinks to boost my rankings.

    10. Leave and Monitor results!

    I feel that Paying for Content is a must as it saves me masses of time, Paying for Backlinks is essential as I do not know what I'm doing when it comes to that, the rest I understand but want to speed up and leave myself more time to generate Ideas for more sites.

    If anybody has anything they can add to this all input would be greatly received, I really want to commit to this Full Time but need to get my earnings up to around $2500 p/m first.


    Great Post once again,

    Thanks,

    Seb


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  • Profile picture of the author jimmyloyola
    wow this thread has been of great use for someone like me..thanks a lot..I will be asking lot of questions in coming weeks
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  • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
    Chucky,

    I forget to add. Once you have all 5 page contents published over the period of a month. Do you update your website at all? I know you mention something like that somewhere but I can't seem to find it. Because I saw people saying "content is king", update your site every 2-3 days. What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author mahmoud747
    Hello chunky
    I have to thank you for your informative posts, im kinda a newbie and at i have learned a lot from it
    as my english is not very good , there are some things that i can not totally understand
    so i will tell u briefly what i have done , as that is my first website i want you to kindly review it
    1-kw's and pages
    i selected 4 kw's and create one page for each kw , the pages addressed as follows
    www.mysite.com/kewword-one
    www.mysite.com/kewword-two , etc
    i did not block my site while adding content so all pages were indexed including privacy, contact us and terms
    hope you can help me how to get them deindexed and make them nofollow because i did not understand this from posts , may be im a little dumb
    and do you have any suggestions and notices about this part ?

    2-Content
    in every page the keyword is in H1,H2, bold in the first paragraph and italic in the last paragraph, kw density is 1%
    should i have a clickable kw phrase pointing to the same page ?

    about links that pointing to another sites
    i have text phrases linking to wikipedia and amazon(aff link) using normal linking method in wp
    and banners from amazon with my aff link embedded
    does all these links will affect my link juice ? is it necessary to make those links nofollow including banners ? and how i could do so ?

    3-plugins
    i only installed these plugins
    1-all in one seo
    2-google analytics
    3-google xml sitemap
    4-contact
    5-privacy

    is there any other plugins you would suggest ?
    thanks in advance
    see you
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Originally Posted by sebski22 View Post

    Hey Chuky,

    Just want to say what a great thread this is.

    I have spent the last few years dabbling with IM and seen some very small returns from my hard work. I'm hoping to get at it Full Time this year and your information is giving me some great ideas of where I need to be focusing my attention.

    I have a few websites now that are ticking over very gently and I am looking to expand my portfolio massively over the next 6 months to turn this small amount of income into justifiable earnings so I can be in a position to leave my 9-5.

    I have one good Clickbank Site, and a couple of Amazon sites.

    I am looking to invest around $200 per month plus any earnings I make, which are currently around $150.00 at the moment into my website expansion so possibly $350pm in total.

    Could you give me any advice about outsourcing/automating the process?

    I only have one spare day a week to work on my sites and the odd hour on an evening so I need a streamlined approach. Here is My Process at the moment can you see if there are any areas you would improve on?

    1. KW Research: (I use "Micro Niche Espionage" I purchased here on the WF)
    · Identify 1 Theme KW to Rank high with.
    · Identify 3 - 4 secondary KW's to support main Theme KW

    2. Send KWs to Article Writer to create 5/6 unique posts...this costs me $20 per 5 articles

    · 2 posts on Unique KW
    · 1 post on each secondary KW

    3. Choose a good EMD for high ranking

    4. Install WP on domain

    5. Add Theme, (currently looking to purchase Thesis but at the moment using FREEBIES...is Thesis worth it?)

    6. Install the FREE plugins you mention in your First Post. (No Paid Plugins, again are they essential?)

    7. Add Content(Should I outsource this as setting up on page SEO is tedious? if so any idea of cost per site? or purchase WPdesktop?)

    8. Drip Feed Content every 2 - 3 days

    9. After Content is all Published I Pay for a backlink service to create Link Pyramid, EDU links and Profile Backlinks to boost my rankings.

    10. Leave and Monitor results!

    I feel that Paying for Content is a must as it saves me masses of time, Paying for Backlinks is essential as I do not know what I'm doing when it comes to that, the rest I understand but want to speed up and leave myself more time to generate Ideas for more sites.

    If anybody has anything they can add to this all input would be greatly received, I really want to commit to this Full Time but need to get my earnings up to around $2500 p/m first.


    Great Post once again,

    Thanks,

    Seb

    Hey Seb,

    Thanks! OK now to your questions!

    First of all, make 100% SURE that you have done your kw research right. Wrong kw with #1 position that make no money can be really frustrating. I'm still making that mistake after all this 'experience'

    There should be plenty of good (SEO wise - that's all I would worry right now) free themes. I can't give you a name because I don't know of any. You can search WF or Google in general and find out if there are any particular free themes that people recommend as SEO friendly.

    Here are some tips that can help you decide if a particular theme is good or not.
    1. Do some random searches on Google and look at the theme top ranking sites have used. Are they free themes? Since somebody else seems to be able to rank that theme at the top, there probably shouldn't be too much wrong with it. Of course this is very vague.
    2. Here is a random thesis site that I found online How To Make My Blog. Here is a random non-thesis site that I found online Bride Wedding Speeches. Go to each of them, then look at their source code (View --> Page source on your web browser). Now see how organized the stuff at the top of the thesis theme is compared to the other one. Also do a search within the source code (ctrl + F) for <h1> and <h2> tags. See where they are. On the non-thesis site above, you will see that there are many h2 tags around featured posts, search, about me, tags etc. I think that's a waste as far as on page SEO is concerned. But on the thesis theme, that kind of headers are h3 tags. Also click in to each post like Bride Wedding Speeches - The Perfect Speech | Bride Wedding Speeches and 9 Values and Characteristics Any Serious Blogger Should Possess and see where the H1 and H2 tags are. On the former, I don't see any H1 tags! I THINK (I want to emphasize that I don't know this exactly) it is things like these that make one theme better than the other SEO wise. DISCLAIMER: I'm not an expert on this kind of thing; this is what was in my head, I don't remember where I picked it up from.
    Paid plugins - well SEO pressor is almost essential. But if you follow my on page checklist exactly, I think it covers everything SEO pressor does. Instead of the ping crawl turbo, try to look for a free plugin that auto-pings your site every time you get a visitor.

    I wouldn't trust anyone else to add content to my sites. I have trained one guy, but even after building more than 10 sites, I still find things that he misses.

    How to make use of the $350?
    SENUKE X - $147
    Ultra Spinnable Articles - $97 (or $17 if you pick up the minis)
    AMR - $97 one time
    Article directories - UAW $67, article ranks $39

    Do 1 SENUKE submission per week and an article submission to UAW/AR at least every other day. Then do AMR submissions as a Tier 2 of links to SENUKE properties and UAW articles. Keep your free day for scheduling SENUKE and AMR. Try to find a kid on Fiverr or Craigslist that will submit an article to UAW or AR for like 50 cents/article. Just email him the article daily or give him access to your ultra spinnable article account.

    Originally Posted by jimmyloyola View Post

    wow this thread has been of great use for someone like me..thanks a lot..I will be asking lot of questions in coming weeks
    Look forward to the questions man!

    Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

    Chucky,

    I forget to add. Once you have all 5 page contents published over the period of a month. Do you update your website at all? I know you mention something like that somewhere but I can't seem to find it. Because I saw people saying "content is king", update your site every 2-3 days. What do you think?
    Not really! I have sites that have ranked at #1 that were unmoved by Panda with as little as 3 posts. All my early sites had only 3 posts (some even 2); the change to 5 posts was something that I did relatively recently. But then again, when I see a particular niche is making more than the others, I add new content to target LTKW. But if I'm only targeting my theme kw, I don't add more content.

    Will answer the other questions later guys thanks for your patience!
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    • Profile picture of the author sebski22
      Hey Chucky,

      Many thanks for the advice, it's great that you are so open about what you do to make a living Online.

      [quote]
      Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

      How to make use of the $350?
      SENUKE X - $147
      Ultra Spinnable Articles - $97 (or $17 if you pick up the minis)
      AMR - $97 one time
      Article directories - UAW $67, article ranks $39

      Do 1 SENUKE submission per week and an article submission to UAW/AR at least every other day. Then do AMR submissions as a Tier 2 of links to SENUKE properties and UAW articles. Keep your free day for scheduling SENUKE and AMR. Try to find a kid on Fiverr or Craigslist that will submit an article to UAW or AR for like 50 cents/article. Just email him the article daily or give him access to your ultra spinnable article account.
      Just a few questions about the above if you or anyone else can share some more information on the subject...

      I have been considering SENUKE X for a month or so now and think it would be a good investment, I have also heard it mentioned, on here, that it is possible to make your money back on the purchase price by offering a Backlinking Service...poss on Fiverr or similar...which sounds great to me .

      Quick Question ref SENUKE.

      * Do you continue to build links to your sites on a weekly basis for the life of the site?

      I am not 100% about Ultra Spinnable Articles. $97.00 p/m sounds a lot of cash for articles to use for Backlinking. As I understand it, I would have access to just one article per day from their site and I would use that article to submit to UAW or AR. Is that correct?

      30 articles @ $97.00 = $3.23 per article, I can get re-writes done at that, but appreciate that would take some managing so there is some value in convenience for Ultra Spinnable Articles.

      Here are my questions on Ultra Spinnable Articles:

      If i have say 25 sites that need articles submitting to UAW/AR every other day I will need to submit roughly 12 articles per day (this will be growing exponentially as I increase my protfolio so could become a very massive job)

      * Would all this content be available from UAW? Can I get more than one article per day?

      * Would I continue to submit articles at this level for every profitable site I have for the entire life of the site?

      * Will I be restricted to certain Niches because of Ultra Spinnables content availablility? eg, if they don't compile articles on that niche/product what happens?

      * Does Each Submission to UAW/AR contain a link back to my main money site?

      In reference to AMR, I think a grasp the concept of linking back to the SENUKE properties so this seems again like a great idea to support my overall foundations for my sites.

      My main question would be:

      * At what point or what criteria do you use to decide a site is worth investing all this effort in?

      For eg, I have an Amazon site that is 3 months old, going through a bit of a Tango with google atm, I assume due to some recent link building I have done, but earning roughly $30.00p/m. The site is consistently front page for my targetted KW and a few other supportive KW's. Is $30p/m enough to justify hitting it with all this Linkbuilding? (search volume is about 4000 global)

      Thanks for taking the time to read my posts, in the time I have been struggling with IM, you are the first person to take the time to answer my questions without trying to deal me into a product.

      Many Thanks, you are a great help to many of us novices!

      Seb
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      • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
        Hi Seb,

        I have SenukeX and it is great. I set up Senuke for each site and spread each submission over a period of a week. I wouldn't say for life but once I have reach #1, I would probably slow down the link building processing, many spread the submission over a period of 2-3 weeks. Cause you don't want to stop building links once you have reach #1.

        I purchased SenukeX lifetime membership. If you don't have time to set up and run SenukeX, I wouldn't recommend getting it. It would be a waste of money to pay monthly.
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        • Profile picture of the author sebski22
          Hey Mainecoon,

          Thanks for your reply, I appreciate your advice.

          I kind of thought about my question a little after posting it and came to the conclusion that it would be safe to lay off the Backlining a bit once I get my site to where I want to be...it's good to hear you back up my plan though, maybe there is hope for me yet

          Just as a quick side note..

          * how long did it take you to work out SENUKE X?
          * and how long does it take you to setup a campaign like you mentioned above?

          Thanks, and its great to see you making a success of this.

          I had noticed your recent posts earlier in the thread and can honestly say you helped spur me on to take serious action...seeing other people make a success shows how possible things are when you committ to succeeding.

          Thanks

          Seb
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          • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
            Originally Posted by sebski22 View Post

            Hey Mainecoon,

            Thanks for your reply, I appreciate your advice.

            I kind of thought about my question a little after posting it and came to the conclusion that it would be safe to lay off the Backlining a bit once I get my site to where I want to be...it's good to hear you back up my plan though, maybe there is hope for me yet

            Just as a quick side note..

            * how long did it take you to work out SENUKE X?
            * and how long does it take you to setup a campaign like you mentioned above?

            Thanks, and its great to see you making a success of this.

            I had noticed your recent posts earlier in the thread and can honestly say you helped spur me on to take serious action...seeing other people make a success shows how possible things are when you committ to succeeding.

            Thanks

            Seb
            Hi Seb,

            I am glad I have helped you take action. But seriously, it's all on Chucky. For some reason his thread just opens the door for me and got me to do it. Don't know what it is that gave me the little "push" but I am glad it did. It must be his piggy bank avatar haha.

            Ok back to being serious.

            * how long did it take you to work out SENUKE X?

            Before Senuke X, I used the original Senuke, for 3 Months so I kind of picked up Senuke X quickly but I can't imagine you spend more than 2 weeks to learn everything. Specially Senuke X is MUCH easier and more organized than the original Senuke. The build in wizard is pretty easy to use.

            * and how long does it take you to setup a campaign like you mentioned above?

            It depends, it could be as quick as 20mins to 1 hour. And the project can be spread over a period of a week. So the more time you spend getting it up the better (higher success rate)

            Don't forget when you DO decide on the program, usually there's something more you have to get... for SenukeX , I have buy share proxy, decaptcha services, the best spinners.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimmyloyola
    Hey.. I have a doubt.. I saw your link wheel guide.First time I am reading about it.Thanks

    So I have a site with content.. I write articles and submit 1 to article directory.. Now I take that link of article in directory and submit it to a url submission software(maybe not an article link but some other page linking to my site)..Is it not better considering sometimes link submission softwares can submit it to crappy sites which dont do much. Or should I use link submission software to submit my site only..More links to the site which linkyour site, makes it better right..If thats correct it will also loosen the risk of problems of getting crappy links rite.

    Sorry if this is a dumb guess
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    • Profile picture of the author tickle932
      Hi Chucky and fellow warriors,

      I hope those that are completely new to SEO realize how valuable and how much time this information can save them for getting their sites to rank. I strongly believe that people should rank a lower competitive keyword at first to boost their confidence. I feel that I am somewhat an expert in this because most of the few sites I have built are lower competitive keywords and usually land on the first page(even though the #1 spot usually eludes me for some reason) My problem comes in off page SEO. I usually get to the first page and then I take a break and expect the sales to come rolling in. The most sales I ever had came from one site that I have built which used a brand name...let's just say that I got rid of that one as quickly as possible. I am writing this post to help people think about what they are trying to do with their sites in the long term and to also stress the importance of kw research. I have a few sites on page one but sales and clicks are scarce. I am working on finding the keywords that can help people find what they are looking for. As Chucky said,....FIND THOSE BUYER KEYWORDS.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by jimmyloyola View Post

        Hey.. I have a doubt.. I saw your link wheel guide.First time I am reading about it.Thanks

        So I have a site with content.. I write articles and submit 1 to article directory.. Now I take that link of article in directory and submit it to a url submission software(maybe not an article link but some other page linking to my site)..Is it not better considering sometimes link submission softwares can submit it to crappy sites which dont do much. Or should I use link submission software to submit my site only..More links to the site which linkyour site, makes it better right..If thats correct it will also loosen the risk of problems of getting crappy links rite.

        Sorry if this is a dumb guess
        Hi,

        I'm not sure if I understand your question properly. Basically, you should link whatever high quality links you can find directly to your money site (I call them tier 1) and then poor quality ones to your Tier 1. The belief is that your Tier 1 will act as a buffer that protects your money site should you get any adverse effects from those poor quality links.

        Hope that answered your question!

        Originally Posted by tickle932 View Post

        Hi Chucky and fellow warriors,

        I hope those that are completely new to SEO realize how valuable and how much time this information can save them for getting their sites to rank. I strongly believe that people should rank a lower competitive keyword at first to boost their confidence. I feel that I am somewhat an expert in this because most of the few sites I have built are lower competitive keywords and usually land on the first page(even though the #1 spot usually eludes me for some reason) My problem comes in off page SEO. I usually get to the first page and then I take a break and expect the sales to come rolling in. The most sales I ever had came from one site that I have built which used a brand name...let's just say that I got rid of that one as quickly as possible. I am writing this post to help people think about what they are trying to do with their sites in the long term and to also stress the importance of kw research. I have a few sites on page one but sales and clicks are scarce. I am working on finding the keywords that can help people find what they are looking for. As Chucky said,....FIND THOSE BUYER KEYWORDS.
        I wouldn't necessarily get rid of your 'brand name domain name' until the lawyers contact you and ask you to take it down. Such 'brand name domains' make me about $2K every month. I am aware that I may have to take them down one day, but by that time (hopefully it never happens, I have already earned quite a big chunk of $$)

        Especially if you're not the only one using that brand name in a domain name, that probably means that the company is not too strict about their policies.

        In the early days I was bold enough to register domain names with Lego, Barbie, John Deere etc. The Lego lawyers contacted me, I didn't proceed with the John Deere, but I still have the Barbie site and others not mentioned above. I see many domains with Barbie in them.

        [quote=sebski22;3989618]Hey Chucky,

        Many thanks for the advice, it's great that you are so open about what you do to make a living Online.


        Just a few questions about the above if you or anyone else can share some more information on the subject...

        I have been considering SENUKE X for a month or so now and think it would be a good investment, I have also heard it mentioned, on here, that it is possible to make your money back on the purchase price by offering a Backlinking Service...poss on Fiverr or similar...which sounds great to me .

        Quick Question ref SENUKE.

        * Do you continue to build links to your sites on a weekly basis for the life of the site?
        Not always. Even if I do, not with SENUKE. I do that with article marketing. Some sites will stay at #1 with no more backlinking. I guess my competitors are not building new links to their sites either. Whereas other sites require some fresh links every now and again.

        I have one huge resource box that has all my websites like the one below.

        This author also writes about {site 1|site 2| site 3| ......... site 85}

        For what I call 'maintenance' link building, I use the above resource box in my mass article distributions. I have all my anchor text hyperlinks in there and they get evenly distributed.

        Lets say I have 50 URLs in there and a single UAW submission gives me 250 article distributions - that's 5 links per site everyday. How wonderful is that? No need to worry about building too many links in one day or having patches of 'no new links'.

        I haven't seen anybody talking about this strategy

        I am not 100% about Ultra Spinnable Articles. $97.00 p/m sounds a lot of cash for articles to use for Backlinking. As I understand it, I would have access to just one article per day from their site and I would use that article to submit to UAW or AR. Is that correct?
        Correct! But there are also the minis which are only $17 and you get them only on weekdays

        30 articles @ $97.00 = $3.23 per article, I can get re-writes done at that, but appreciate that would take some managing so there is some value in convenience for Ultra Spinnable Articles.
        It will cost you $100s to write one article at that kind of uniqueness. A single article is like 13 pages with spin syntax and then when it is spun it comes down to 500 words. You haven't read their sales page sufficiently.

        Here are my questions on Ultra Spinnable Articles:

        If i have say 25 sites that need articles submitting to UAW/AR every other day I will need to submit roughly 12 articles per day (this will be growing exponentially as I increase my protfolio so could become a very massive job)

        * Would all this content be available from UAW? Can I get more than one article per day?

        * Would I continue to submit articles at this level for every profitable site I have for the entire life of the site?
        My previous answers should answer these questions

        * Will I be restricted to certain Niches because of Ultra Spinnables content availablility? eg, if they don't compile articles on that niche/product what happens?
        See my answer to JunileEric earlier.
        * Does Each Submission to UAW/AR contain a link back to my main money site?
        Yup, you can use them as a Tier 2 also. Tier 1 being SENUKE. For me, SENUKE and UAW are Tier 1 and AMR is Tier 2 right now. AR doesn't give the link to where the articles get published, that sucks because you can't boost those articles.
        In reference to AMR, I think a grasp the concept of linking back to the SENUKE properties so this seems again like a great idea to support my overall foundations for my sites.

        My main question would be:

        * At what point or what criteria do you use to decide a site is worth investing all this effort in?

        For eg, I have an Amazon site that is 3 months old, going through a bit of a Tango with google atm, I assume due to some recent link building I have done, but earning roughly $30.00p/m. The site is consistently front page for my targetted KW and a few other supportive KW's. Is $30p/m enough to justify hitting it with all this Linkbuilding? (search volume is about 4000 global)
        If you're earning $30/month with like position #6 or below, you'll multiply that by like 5 times if you hit #1. Remember #1 gets 42% of the traffic. Then if you work on your conversions again you'll potentially double the sales. That's a $300/mo site and a lot of people would consider that a winner site.

        Even if it doesn't make that much during the rest of the year, but it is one of the Christmas special phrases - you know what to do.
        Thanks for taking the time to read my posts, in the time I have been struggling with IM, you are the first person to take the time to answer my questions without trying to deal me into a product.
        There is always a first time for everything

        Many Thanks, you are a great help to many of us novices!

        Seb
        Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

        Hi Seb,
        If you don't have time to set up and run SenukeX, I wouldn't recommend getting it. It would be a waste of money to pay monthly.
        If you don't have time to set up and run SenukeX ..... I would make time

        Will get to the other questions later, on a busy schedule guys. Thanks for understanding!
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        • Profile picture of the author carzan
          I wouldn't necessarily get rid of your 'brand name domain name' until the lawyers contact you and ask you to take it down. Such 'brand name domains' make me about $2K every month. I am aware that I may have to take them down one day, but by that time (hopefully it never happens, I have already earned quite a big chunk of $$)

          Especially if you're not the only one using that brand name in a domain name, that probably means that the company is not too strict about their policies.

          In the early days I was bold enough to register domain names with Lego, Barbie, John Deere etc. The Lego lawyers contacted me, I didn't proceed with the John Deere, but I still have the Barbie site and others not mentioned above. I see many domains with Barbie in them.
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          Chucky, I´ll be asking you some things about "brand name domain names" later...I have a bunch of those and I have no idea what to do (I know I can earn some GOOD $ with them) :rolleyes: thank you in advance!...
          Great motivation I have from you!
          THANKS!
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  • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
    Btw, I haven't made any sales that wow me yet. Just 2 small sales. lesson learned, pick products that cost MORE or high commission products. i think my 1st site got sandboxed. 2nd site on 1st page, 3rd site on 2nd page, 4th site on 1st page, just finished 5th and working on 6th right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author monkeytrousers
    I wish I would have seen this post a couple years ago. My main site that was completely supporting me got caught in the algo change. Since then I have been scrambling to replace that income.

    Definitely don't put all your eggs in one basket...
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

    Hi Seb,

    I am glad I have helped you take action. But seriously, it's all on Chucky. For some reason his thread just opens the door for me and got me to do it. Don't know what it is that gave me the little "push" but I am glad it did. It must be his piggy bank avatar haha.
    You make me blush Thanks!
    But you know what! It's all YOU; because you're the one who took action. I can preach all day but unless you take action nothing will happen. Congrats to you! Your constant contributions have also encouraged me to come here and answer people's questions etc. Keep it up and thank you for your time!

    Ok back to being serious.

    * how long did it take you to work out SENUKE X?

    Before Senuke X, I used the original Senuke, for 3 Months so I kind of picked up Senuke X quickly but I can't imagine you spend more than 2 weeks to learn everything. Specially Senuke X is MUCH easier and more organized than the original Senuke. The build in wizard is pretty easy to use.

    * and how long does it take you to setup a campaign like you mentioned above?

    It depends, it could be as quick as 20mins to 1 hour. And the project can be spread over a period of a week. So the more time you spend getting it up the better (higher success rate)

    Don't forget when you DO decide on the program, usually there's something more you have to get... for SenukeX , I have buy share proxy, decaptcha services, the best spinners.
    I use Hide My Ass $9.95/month plan and I set the IP address to change every .5 hours. I think that's the best and cheapest. May not be ideal if you use Scrapebox though.

    BTW, do you make sure your links from SENUKE gets indexed? Have you used the indexer module? I use ScrapeBox to check if they are A) Live B) Indexed. Then I take the live links and build links on to them using AMR and others.

    Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

    Btw, I haven't made any sales that wow me yet. Just 2 small sales. lesson learned, pick products that cost MORE or high commission products. i think my 1st site got sandboxed. 2nd site on 1st page, 3rd site on 2nd page, 4th site on 1st page, just finished 5th and working on 6th right now.
    As far as those sales go - been there done that; looks like a mistake we all make at the beginning of our IM carriers

    As far as the positions go HOLY MACARONI!! That's amazing. WOW! I don't think I ever had such a success rate 2 out of 4 sites on page 1!
    As you can see, just because you're on the 1st page you don't necessarily make sales until you climb up to the TOP 5 and above!

    This is where you should work on your homepage Title and description to attract more clicks which will help you rank higher. Also work on conversions.

    Also, I wouldn't say that first site is sand boxed... probably the dance...keep building new links and may be even add a couple of pages of content, just because it's 'sand boxed'. It is still indexed on Google right? Make sure you build some links to inner pages with 2ry kw anchor text.

    Originally Posted by monkeytrousers View Post

    I wish I would have seen this post a couple years ago. My main site that was completely supporting me got caught in the algo change. Since then I have been scrambling to replace that income.

    Definitely don't put all your eggs in one basket...
    Sorry to hear that, but I guess it happens to most of us and we only learn the lesson when it does finally happen

    Originally Posted by carzan View Post

    I wouldn't necessarily get rid of your 'brand name domain name' until the lawyers contact you and ask you to take it down. Such 'brand name domains' make me about $2K every month. I am aware that I may have to take them down one day, but by that time (hopefully it never happens, I have already earned quite a big chunk of $$)

    Especially if you're not the only one using that brand name in a domain name, that probably means that the company is not too strict about their policies.

    In the early days I was bold enough to register domain names with Lego, Barbie, John Deere etc. The Lego lawyers contacted me, I didn't proceed with the John Deere, but I still have the Barbie site and others not mentioned above. I see many domains with Barbie in them.
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    Chucky, I´ll be asking you some things about "brand name domain names" later...I have a bunch of those and I have no idea what to do (I know I can earn some GOOD $ with them) :rolleyes: thank you in advance!...
    Great motivation I have from you!
    THANKS!
    Hey buddy!

    Remember, I may have said that, however do it at your own risk! It's not the most white hat practice although many keyword research guides encourage you to target these PNK - Product Name Keywords

    I'm not the only one. Look at these searches on GOogle

    http://www.google.com/search?q=provi...GGL_en___US327

    http://www.google.com/search?q=bowtr...GGL_en___US327

    A popular warrior owns one of the #1 sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
      Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

      As far as those sales go - been there done that; looks like a mistake we all make at the beginning of our IM carriers

      As far as the positions go HOLY MACARONI!! That's amazing. WOW! I don't think I ever had such a success rate 2 out of 4 sites on page 1!
      As you can see, just because you're on the 1st page you don't necessarily make sales until you climb up to the TOP 5 and above!

      This is where you should work on your homepage Title and description to attract more clicks which will help you rank higher. Also work on conversions.

      Also, I wouldn't say that first site is sand boxed... probably the dance...keep building new links and may be even add a couple of pages of content, just because it's 'sand boxed'. It is still indexed on Google right? Make sure you build some links to inner pages with 2ry kw anchor text.
      NO....... Chucky, HOLY MACARONI to THIS! Remember I told you my first site was at like #6 or #7 then I thought it got sandboxed, let me tell you why. So I built links 1-2 weeks I have my site up, then it started climbing right? then it suddenly dropped to rank 700s 1-1/2 months ago and it kind of started to climb up again but it just stuck at 400s for over a month and I think 1 week ago I check again it was total disappeared....

      TODAY I checked, I am at #2 SPOT for a local exact 4,400 search keyword!
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      • Profile picture of the author markowe
        Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

        NO....... Chucky, HOLY MACARONI to THIS! Remember I told you my first site was at like #6 or #7 then I thought it got sandboxed, let me tell you why. So I built links 1-2 weeks I have my site up, then it started climbing right? then it suddenly dropped to rank 700s 1-1/2 months ago and it kind of started to climb up again but it just stuck at 400s for over a month and I think 1 week ago I check again it was total disappeared....

        TODAY I checked, I am at #2 SPOT for a local exact 4,400 search keyword!
        Just to chip in, this is SUCH a common experience, but until you go through that process it is hard to believe that your site hasn't been "sandboxed" or penalised, or whatever. Now that you have seen it you will have MUCH more confidence in SEOing your next site, because provided you have researched your keywords and done all the on- and off-site SEO properly, you now KNOW it WILL get there eventually.

        Most newbies (I've been there) lose heart when their site sinks without trace and drop the whole thing, when all you've got to do is have a little faith And patience - a few months is perfectly normal to get ranked. There's no rush, go do something else while you're waiting
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        • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
          Originally Posted by markowe View Post

          Just to chip in, this is SUCH a common experience, but until you go through that process it is hard to believe that your site hasn't been "sandboxed" or penalised, or whatever. Now that you have seen it you will have MUCH more confidence in SEOing your next site, because provided you have researched your keywords and done all the on- and off-site SEO properly, you now KNOW it WILL get there eventually.

          Most newbies (I've been there) lose heart when their site sinks without trace and drop the whole thing, when all you've got to do is have a little faith And patience - a few months is perfectly normal to get ranked. There's no rush, go do something else while you're waiting
          Yea I heard of it all the time and I am not sure and what to believe until I SEE it. I mean I've seen people talk about getting knock off by Google dance down to like 100 but still within #100 ranking. But mine was WAY down there at like 400s, 700s. And you know what? People say, yes It will come back up 2 weeks - 4 weeks. But mine was not moving for like 6 weeks =( 1-1/2 months. Then suddenly, BAM! I am on the top of the mountain =)
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  • Profile picture of the author mcimicata
    Thanks so much for the info, you are truly an inspiration!
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  • Profile picture of the author jimmyloyola
    Yup chucky.. Thats what I wanted to know.. But is there a chance that google finds out we are using tier 1 links and another set of links pointing to it..Isnt it a bit unnatural according to google.. Anything you use to fool google
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    • Profile picture of the author markowe
      Originally Posted by jimmyloyola View Post

      Yup chucky.. Thats what I wanted to know.. But is there a chance that google finds out we are using tier 1 links and another set of links pointing to it..Isnt it a bit unnatural according to google.. Anything you use to fool google
      We shouldn't give Google too much credit - Google, as in the human beings reading this thread now , can tell what you are up to, but it is very difficult, if not impossible, for an algorithm to detect unnatural behaviour in many cases.

      For example, your '1st tier' page (your article, web 2.0, whatever) probably has LOTS of outgoing links on it of various kinds. How is the Google-Monster supposed to 'know' WHICH of those linked sites is actually trying to game it and gain a SEO benefit? Very difficult - I personally think they have quite major problems generally - you can't discount links or even penalise them unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure that they are 'artificial', lest you penalise a 'legitimate' site, and that is just not possible in most cases.
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      • Profile picture of the author jimmyloyola
        Originally Posted by markowe View Post

        We shouldn't give Google too much credit - Google, as in the human beings reading this thread now , can tell what you are up to, but it is very difficult, if not impossible, for an algorithm to detect unnatural behaviour in many cases.

        For example, your '1st tier' page (your article, web 2.0, whatever) probably has LOTS of outgoing links on it of various kinds. How is the Google-Monster supposed to 'know' WHICH of those linked sites is actually trying to game it and gain a SEO benefit? Very difficult - I personally think they have quite major problems generally - you can't discount links or even penalise them unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure that they are 'artificial', lest you penalise a 'legitimate' site, and that is just not possible in most cases.
        Well thats true but i keep hearing that just like they found about link wheels they will find about link magnets and all..But I guess its always better to createyour own link thing huh
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  • Profile picture of the author ongebest
    Chucky, thats cool, it inspires me

    I started my IM business 1 month ago and got only 10 page view per day only (yes, i am not smart enough). I hope someday i can make decent income like you do

    Would like to ask a) how many website od you have, b) average page # and c) hows their daily traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author cinkz
      WOW ! Great post Chucky. Thank you very much
      I'm new on IM. I should have more learn from you and practise a lot.
      I found your articles here is about PPS, how about PPC (adsense), can you explain me about monetizing adsense?
      because most people said PPS (amazon,CB) is the hardest way, and adsense is the easiest, what's your opinion about that?

      Regards,
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by markowe View Post

        We shouldn't give Google too much credit - Google, as in the human beings reading this thread now , can tell what you are up to, but it is very difficult, if not impossible, for an algorithm to detect unnatural behaviour in many cases.

        For example, your '1st tier' page (your article, web 2.0, whatever) probably has LOTS of outgoing links on it of various kinds. How is the Google-Monster supposed to 'know' WHICH of those linked sites is actually trying to game it and gain a SEO benefit? Very difficult - I personally think they have quite major problems generally - you can't discount links or even penalise them unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure that they are 'artificial', lest you penalise a 'legitimate' site, and that is just not possible in most cases.
        Absolutely!

        If Google is going to catch up on anything, that would be the link networks like UAW, AR, AMA, SEOLV, BMR, Link Vana etc. etc. (actually I take BMR back; it doesn't belong in the category together with the others - one of the top recommended services from me). You would think if Google wants to reverse engineer these networks or farms or whatever you call them, it shouldn't be all that difficult. To date they haven't and they remain to be highly effective SEO wise. Is that because they CAN'T or they DON'T want - I don't know. Might as well join the band wagon and cherish the benefits while they last without trying to over analyze (No offense Jimmy - don't get in to analysis paralysis )

        Originally Posted by ongebest View Post

        Chucky, thats cool, it inspires me

        I started my IM business 1 month ago and got only 10 page view per day only (yes, i am not smart enough). I hope someday i can make decent income like you do

        Would like to ask a) how many website od you have, b) average page # and c) hows their daily traffic.
        Hey, that's way better than what I was getting when I was only 1 month into IM. You're already ahead of me; I didn't even know this free gold mine called WF existed. So you're well on your way!

        a) I probably have like 50. But only 10 or so make money. Some don't even have a single affiliate link in them even though they're ranking in the first 3 pages.

        b) I have 2-3 larger sites with about 40 posts. All the others have 5 or less posts

        c) May be 600/daily... But I haven't checked this. I know I have one site that gets about 200-300, another one that gets 100 and all the others are like 50 or so I think.

        Originally Posted by cinkz View Post

        WOW ! Great post Chucky. Thank you very much
        I'm new on IM. I should have more learn from you and practise a lot.
        I found your articles here is about PPS, how about PPC (adsense), can you explain me about monetizing adsense?
        because most people said PPS (amazon,CB) is the hardest way, and adsense is the easiest, what's your opinion about that?

        Regards,
        Felix
        PPS - Pay per sale? Never heard that abbreviation before

        In my book, the hardest thing is getting traffic. If you can get 100 visitors to a buying kw that sells a product that gives you a commission of $26 (average CB product of $40 gives you $26) at a conversion rate of 2%, would you monetize with that product or AdSense which you get paid @ 50 cents/click with a CTR of max 30%?

        That's my philosophy (and James Schramko's - if it's good enough for him, it's certainly good enough for me )
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        • Profile picture of the author jimmyloyola
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          Absolutely!

          If Google is going to catch up on anything, that would be the link networks like UAW, AR, AMA, SEOLV, BMR, Link Vana etc. etc. (actually I take BMR back; it doesn't belong in the category together with the others - one of the top recommended services from me). You would think if Google wants to reverse engineer these networks or farms or whatever you call them, it shouldn't be all that difficult. To date they haven't and they remain to be highly effective SEO wise. Is that because they CAN'T or they DON'T want - I don't know. Might as well join the band wagon and cherish the benefits while they last without trying to over analyze (No offense Jimmy - don't get in to analysis paralysis )



          Hey, that's way better than what I was getting when I was only 1 month into IM. You're already ahead of me; I didn't even know this free gold mine called WF existed. So you're well on your way!

          a) I probably have like 50. But only 10 or so make money. Some don't even have a single affiliate link in them even though they're ranking in the first 3 pages.

          b) I have 2-3 larger sites with about 40 posts. All the others have 5 or less posts

          c) May be 600/daily... But I haven't checked this. I know I have one site that gets about 200-300, another one that gets 100 and all the others are like 50 or so I think.



          PPS - Pay per sale? Never heard that abbreviation before

          In my book, the hardest thing is getting traffic. If you can get 100 visitors to a buying kw that sells a product that gives you a commission of $26 (average CB product of $40 gives you $26) at a conversion rate of 2%, would you monetize with that product or AdSense which you get paid @ 50 cents/click with a CTR of max 30%?

          That's my philosophy (and James Schramko's - if it's good enough for him, it's certainly good enough for me )
          ahh I guess, I am thinking too much :p no link wheels=safe
          btw loved ur spinning trick
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          • Profile picture of the author Chucky
            Originally Posted by jimmyloyola View Post

            ahh I guess, I am thinking too much :p no link wheels=safe
            btw loved ur spinning trick
            I hope you noticed. The link magnet concept neither completes the wheel nor is it around your money site. Good luck!
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            • Profile picture of the author jimmyloyola
              Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

              I hope you noticed. The link magnet concept neither completes the wheel nor is it around your money site. Good luck!
              Ya i saw its a nice trick. But maybe I think too much. I always worry google willl find out lol. :p
              what you think of link pushing?
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              • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                Originally Posted by jimmyloyola View Post

                Ya i saw its a nice trick. But maybe I think too much. I always worry google willl find out lol. :p
                what you think of link pushing?
                As far as I know, it's also a similar concept to tiered link building right? That's why it works. You're strengthening/pushing your backlinks! I may be wrong here; I haven't used a link pushing service (I don't think I have; although I do remember taking a look at a WSO that offered the service). The concept with link pyramids, link mountains, back link energizer, simple leveraging systems, link juice maximizer, mega link blaster or blog/article networks if you use it as a 2nd or 3rd tier is the same - strengthening and making sure Google finds and indexes your tier 1 links!
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                • Profile picture of the author jimmyloyola
                  Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

                  As far as I know, it's also a similar concept to tiered link building right? That's why it works. You're strengthening/pushing your backlinks! I may be wrong here; I haven't used a link pushing service (I don't think I have; although I do remember taking a look at a WSO that offered the service). The concept with link pyramids, link mountains, back link energizer, simple leveraging systems, link juice maximizer, mega link blaster or blog/article networks if you use it as a 2nd or 3rd tier is the same - strengthening and making sure Google finds and indexes your tier 1 links!
                  ahh thanks chucky but one i saw wasnt cheap.. building it on your own takes time but its worth it rite. How many hours do u spend on spinning. I saw that you spin every word..Will take a lot of time rite
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                  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                    Originally Posted by jimmyloyola View Post

                    How many hours do u spend on spinning
                    I don't
                    I use ultra spinnable articles from TheLeadingArticles.com. It's expensive, but it's also one of the best monthly subscriptions you can ever subscribe to if you use them properly.

                    I recommend you should have at least 5-10 websites before you start using them. Otherwise, you won't be able to make use of all 30 articles/month
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                    • Profile picture of the author jimmyloyola
                      Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

                      I don't
                      I use ultra spinnable articles from TheLeadingArticles.com. It's expensive, but it's also one of the best monthly subscriptions you can ever subscribe to if you use them properly.

                      I recommend you should have at least 5-10 websites before you start using them. Otherwise, you won't be able to make use of all 30 articles/month
                      I was wondering. it takes hours to spin an article. BUT you post spun content inany of web 2.0 sites. web 2.0 sites are coming hard at us after the panda update. I am talking of spun content which is not meant for humans
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                      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                        Originally Posted by welland View Post

                        So, what do you think is more important? The number of sites indexed in google or the number of backlinks. I am still familiarizing myself with SEOQuake so I am not sure what to give more weight. Also, what do you consider good on page SEO? Just the 3% density right. So if a page has this, you will not go for it if they have over 2000 backlinks? Sorry if my questions seem elementary. I am new at this. Thanks for the youtube videos!
                        Both are important. But it really comes to how strongly optimized the 1st 10-20 are. If they are all authority sites with 5-6 PR and super on page SEO with 10,000+ backlinks I wouldn't waste my time.

                        I look for not only kw density (3% is not the figure I use) but also how optimized the H tags, description tags, interlinking, use of anchor text keywords in internal linking etc.

                        No worries, we all started by asking elementary questions!

                        Originally Posted by jimmyloyola View Post

                        I was wondering. it takes hours to spin an article. BUT you post spun content inany of web 2.0 sites. web 2.0 sites are coming hard at us after the panda update. I am talking of spun content which is not meant for humans
                        I use ulatra spinnable articles for everything. I don't submit unreadable best spinner spun articles anymore. I get 1 premium and 4 minis daily, that covers all the properties that I submit articles to. Hope I understood your question correctly!
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                          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

                          Both are important. But it really comes to how strongly optimized the 1st 10-20 are. If they are all authority sites with 5-6 PR and super on page SEO with 10,000+ backlinks I wouldn't waste my time.

                          I look for not only kw density (3% is not the figure I use) but also how optimized the H tags, description tags, interlinking, use of anchor text keywords in internal linking etc.

                          No worries, we all started by asking elementary questions!



                          I use ulatra spinnable articles for everything. I don't submit unreadable best spinner spun articles anymore. I get 1 premium and 4 minis daily, that covers all the properties that I submit articles to. Hope I understood your question correctly!
                          I seriously need to get my hands on thatr but one question. Thanks for help chucky. you are awesome
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  • Profile picture of the author Fulltrip
    OMG...what an explanation and what a post!!! Where was I ? I should have joined warrior forum before......Thank you so much chucky...
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  • Profile picture of the author giseo
    Going to have to check out Ultra Spinnable Articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author heavysm
      Sorry if you have answered this already, but how did you get around Amazon's removal of its affiliate program from Illinois? It seems that you are doing fine, but did you setup your business in another state or something?

      If you answered this already, please just refer me to the page in your thread, its rather long now
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by giseo View Post

        Going to have to check out Ultra Spinnable Articles.
        I think they give you one free premium article when you check them out! That will give you an idea about their raw power. The minis @17/month are not so good; but they are also pretty good especially as a Tier 2.

        Originally Posted by heavysm View Post

        Sorry if you have answered this already, but how did you get around Amazon's removal of its affiliate program from Illinois? It seems that you are doing fine, but did you setup your business in another state or something?

        If you answered this already, please just refer me to the page in your thread, its rather long now
        Check out this answer by this warrior here. What I did was more or less the same! Good luck!
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    wow thanks for this. talk about detailed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ephrils
    I've bookmarked this page and will be implementing all of this as soon as possible Going to start with taking your(Chucky) current outline posts and put them into a Word file and print it up

    Your keyword research part is something I constantly get wrong, as is commercial intent, so I'm going to follow all that very carefully.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by Ephrils View Post

      I've bookmarked this page and will be implementing all of this as soon as possible Going to start with taking your(Chucky) current outline posts and put them into a Word file and print it up

      Your keyword research part is something I constantly get wrong, as is commercial intent, so I'm going to follow all that very carefully.
      Great to hear! Feel free to bug me for any specific questions you may come across by posting on this thread please!

      All the best!
      Chucky
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    this sounds awesome!! cant wait to get started!!!!

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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Originally Posted by arshavin View Post

    I've just finished the your post chucky regarding your spinning methods. That is some serious spinning. Puzzled me haha, but also made me realise that the content needs to be spun so well. How long does it take you to spin a 500 word article? i'm guessing at 3 hours minimum haha

    I have been submitting articles spun to around 60% which is only at word level. What happens now that i have done this? sandboxed?

    I have a plan set out in my mind when it comes to submissions. But i am new to IM so this probably sucks lol. I have 3 articles for 1 product. The first article goes onto my website and promotes the product. The next 2 articles talk about the problem that the product helps.

    All 3 articles will be spun to around 60%. The product promotion article will be dripped via amr for tier 2 links. Article 2 (60% spun) will be submitted to 10 high PR directories. The same goes for article 3 the only difference being to 10 different directories. What do you think of this please chucky?

    This is the best thread ive come across by a mile, thanks
    Hey,

    The thing is, if you spend time to spin at such a depth (as I have suggested), you can use those for multiple submissions. I don't manually spin anymore and I purchase highly spun articles from theleadingarticles.com

    You don't always have to spin at such a depth. But the more you spin them, the 'smaller' the footprint!

    Your strategy sounds fine. However, I NEVER link 2 spun articles together. From what I could understand, it appears as if you're going to spin the same articles as on your money site and then submit them to article directories that will link to the original articles. If you do that I suggest you at least link the spun version of article 3 to original article 1, spun version of article 2 to original article 3 etc.

    Hope that helps!

    Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

    NO....... Chucky, HOLY MACARONI to THIS! Remember I told you my first site was at like #6 or #7 then I thought it got sandboxed, let me tell you why. So I built links 1-2 weeks I have my site up, then it started climbing right? then it suddenly dropped to rank 700s 1-1/2 months ago and it kind of started to climb up again but it just stuck at 400s for over a month and I think 1 week ago I check again it was total disappeared....

    TODAY I checked, I am at #2 SPOT for a local exact 4,400 search keyword!
    Congrats! That sounds awesome! Lets hope this also has high commercial intent and makes you better sales than last time!

    Was there anything that you did specifically during that time period or did you not do anything at all while it was buried all that deep?

    Wow so all 5 of your sites are now on pages 1-2 if I remember right?


    Originally Posted by markowe View Post

    Just to chip in, this is SUCH a common experience, but until you go through that process it is hard to believe that your site hasn't been "sandboxed" or penalised, or whatever. Now that you have seen it you will have MUCH more confidence in SEOing your next site, because provided you have researched your keywords and done all the on- and off-site SEO properly, you now KNOW it WILL get there eventually.

    Most newbies (I've been there) lose heart when their site sinks without trace and drop the whole thing, when all you've got to do is have a little faith And patience - a few months is perfectly normal to get ranked. There's no rush, go do something else while you're waiting
    Absolutely!

    I too am going through one of those newbie moments since last night. I too had one of my BIG sites disappear y'day. It had about 40 posts and was getting like 300 visitors daily. This site was one of the weirdest sites I've had. During the early days (it's about 3 years old), it used to dance and disappear for weeks/months with every single link I built to it. Then it would come back stronger than earlier every time. What I also noticed was that when it came back, it was ranking for another term, and another and so on. And last year it became #1 for it's main kw that was searched about 300 times/month. Yeah I know bad kw research during those early days. But then it was also ranking for multiple high traffic kw (as much as 250,000/month) at various positions from page 1 through page 10.

    I started building links using those high traffic kw as anchor text and I just hit page #1 for one of those kw last month. It also had at least 10 #1 positions for long tail keywords as far as knew. Because of the multiple rankings, it was bringing in a considerable amount of traffic and $ over the last year or so.

    Y'day it hit top 5 in the morning and by evening it was gone! It's not only gone for that high traffic kw but for all other kw as well. Sure, when I do site:mysite.com command on the Google search bar, all pages are indexed. So I'm hoping/wishing/praying/begging Google god this is another dance and it will come back stronger (I'll take it even if it's weaker). But until then, I will have to put up with that dent in traffic and $.

    There's more to the story! I bought a link building package offered as a WSO here. The first package I bought for a different site pushed it about 20 positions from page 4-5 to page 2-3. That's the only reason why I ordered the same package to this site as well. I usually don't let others build links to my money makers. But I thought the site was immune to anything since it was over 3 years old and it has over 3000 links on YSE and over 1000 on Google web master tools and I have subjected it to worse backlinking programs like Xrumer blasts. Boy was I wrong?

    And there's more to the story!

    It disappeared together with another site that was ranking #2 for a low volume but high commercial value kw and I'm ready to swear that Google is on to me . Both sites were in the same niche and both sites had similar home pages. One was basically a rewrite of the other. They were both product review pages and compared 3 products which were the same.

    Does Google know both sites are mine? Although I have them in two different Analytics accounts, I think Google knows that both those email accounts belong to the same person! May be I'm worrying too much about things that I shouldn't worry about! But as I said earlier, I feel like that newbie!

    Anyways I'm going to change the two home pages a little bit, something I've been meaning to do for a while now. Gonna make that priority for this week. Actually I have a 3rd site which has a similar homepage which I could never rank. May be the reason is all these 3 look similar (not identical by any means) and I ought to change them all! Wish me luck
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    • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
      Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

      Congrats! That sounds awesome! Lets hope this also has high commercial intent and makes you better sales than last time!

      Was there anything that you did specifically during that time period or did you not do anything at all while it was buried all that deep?

      Wow so all 5 of your sites are now on pages 1-2 if I remember right?
      Chucky,

      I got an e-mail from someone wants to buy my 1st site that just got to #2-#3 spot.... I haven't reply it to yet... what do you think? This site had made me 1.20 total from 2 sales when I was at #7. I am on #2-#3 since yesterday and I haven't seen any sales made.

      I got an message from my affiliate manager, from the private network that I told you guys about. He told me I made my first sale! COMMISSION = $32.25! He told me he will increase my commission rate if I put a link to the website which I did. So I should be getting COMMISSION = $45.14.

      Imagine... $45.14 x 100 sales.... = $4514

      Btw, I am on the 1 page for this site (This is my 4th site) but only at #8 spot. Imagine if I am #1........ $_$
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucayan
    Chucky:

    First thanks for the great information given so selflessly.
    Now, a total newbie question:

    I am building several WP sites as add-on domains under a single Bluehost account. The WP sites are set up in the root directory of the main bluehost account name as follows

    Bluehost account name = prospect.net
    Site name 1: persianweaverugs.net (created in root)
    Site name 2: windowreplacement.org (created in root)

    But the problem is that for Site 1, the site URL will turn out to be:
    http://www.prospect.net/persianweaverrugs......

    Will the first part (prospect.net) affect the SEO of the sites. If so, what is the way around this? Do i have to set up each WP site in its own separate bluehost account? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author soccio
      Seems like many people have seen a dance in their websites, look at this post "something up google panda lately" on june 6th


      Need more post juice to link ...
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  • Profile picture of the author JCorp
    Awesome job! You're doing great and you've already spread out your business into other income streams. You're set up to make tons of profit... keep going and keep us all updated on your successes!
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    • Profile picture of the author isxrc
      Hi Chucky,

      MAJOR Thanks for the useful and valuable information. You have inspired me to try new ideas and put more effort in all my sites and try different techniques. I am in the process of making a few new sites so will definitely be using your formula to try and boost my earnings from those.

      I have a question regarding Amazon or Clickbank products....how do you get people to actually buy?

      Do you use an amazon widget with the product in it or link to the product page in Amazon or CB?
      Do you write some content eg a review and then say YOU CAN BUY IT HERE and then link to it or just drop the link in harmlessly?
      Or do you use a completely different strategy.

      I often find I am getting the right traffic but not converting enough sales for CB or Amazon products.

      Thanks again for all your amazing advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ephrils
    I went ahead and bought the EMD domain anyway, but I'd like your opinion on this Chucky.

    The keyword I want gets 880 exact searches a month. It has a good CPC of over $1. It's "phrase match" searches for competition are less than 50,000. All that looks pretty good to me so far.

    The SERP for the keyword has a LOT of top level domains in the niche but that are not optimized for the keyword at all. Most of them have a very strong internal link structure that gives them 1000s of Inlinks. There's two pages in the search results which stand out. One is more optimized than the rest mentioning the keyword in it's URL(not top level), is a subdomain, and repeats it many times throughout the page in it's text. It carries a modest PR of 1 but made me think I could get there too.

    The other page, the #10 result, mentions the keyword more in passing. It's a text site that is clearly targeting the Adsense value of the term. There is plenty of Adwords ads for this term, but those 2 sites give me some hope. They have a decent amount of backlinks, through Web Directories mostly, it seems.

    I used the Wonder Wheel to get more keywords related to it, the ones that made the most sense to write content on, and bought the EMD. Indications show me this is a buying keyword, and if it proves not to be, Adsense should do something, so I may end up with something either way.

    I don't have any of the paid tools and did this all manually. Am I on the right track?
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by Lucayan View Post

      Chucky:

      First thanks for the great information given so selflessly.
      Now, a total newbie question:

      I am building several WP sites as add-on domains under a single Bluehost account. The WP sites are set up in the root directory of the main bluehost account name as follows

      Bluehost account name = prospect.net
      Site name 1: persianweaverugs.net (created in root)
      Site name 2: windowreplacement.org (created in root)

      But the problem is that for Site 1, the site URL will turn out to be:
      http://www.prospect.net/persianweaverrugs......

      Will the first part (prospect.net) affect the SEO of the sites. If so, what is the way around this? Do i have to set up each WP site in its own separate bluehost account? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
      Oh yes definitely... that is not good. What it looks like to me is you're adding it as a directory. That is no good. I don't know the setup inside BlueHost, so I suggest you talk to their tech support and get it sorted out ASAP! You will find it extremely difficult (if not impossible) to get good SEO benefits that way!

      You shouldn't have to set up a separate account for each domain. That's the idea of add on domains as far as I understand. You must have done something wrong in your control panel! Hope you are able to sort it out soon!

      Originally Posted by soccio View Post

      Seems like many people have seen a dance in their websites, look at this post "something up google panda lately" on june 6th


      Need more post juice to link ...
      Thanks man! Here's the thread http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...da-lately.html

      So it's not just me! Some guys had good fortune (like our MaineCoon) and some guys had misfortune (like Chucky).

      Lets wait and see what Google does here. Thanks again for directing me to that thread! I O U one

      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      Chucky,

      I got an e-mail from someone wants to buy my 1st site that just got to #2-#3 spot.... I haven't reply it to yet... what do you think? This site had made me 1.20 total from 2 sales when I was at #7. I am on #2-#3 since yesterday and I haven't seen any sales made.

      I got an message from my affiliate manager, from the private network that I told you guys about. He told me I made my first sale! COMMISSION = $32.25! He told me he will increase my commission rate if I put a link to the website which I did. So I should be getting COMMISSION = $45.14.

      Imagine... $45.14 x 100 sales.... = $4514

      Btw, I am on the 1 page for this site (This is my 4th site) but only at #8 spot. Imagine if I am #1........ $
      Tough question! Let's see... assuming this email was from a genuine person. If it was genuine, the chances are it's from a 'vendor'/product creator/physical product owner kind of guy. If that is the case, you might be able to sell it for a good price.

      Ask yourself this question. At 60c/sale, how much are you going to make from the site/year considering the traffic volume you get/commercial intent. I'm going to be really pessimistic here and say you're site will only make commissions of about $500. Even if that is true, I wouldn't sell it for less than $1000, because c'mon for god sake it's #2.

      But then again, my analysis may be completely off. I've never sold a site, or even a domain. So you should probably seek the advice of somebody else. Sorry MaineCoon.

      Put a link to the website? To the affiliate network or product site? Either way make sure it's an affiliate link and also that it's not going to leak any clicks which otherwise could have converted to sales. The math certainly sounds very promising! Keep us updated!

      Originally Posted by isxrc View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      MAJOR Thanks for the useful and valuable information. You have inspired me to try new ideas and put more effort in all my sites and try different techniques. I am in the process of making a few new sites so will definitely be using your formula to try and boost my earnings from those.

      I have a question regarding Amazon or Clickbank products....how do you get people to actually buy?

      Do you use an amazon widget with the product in it or link to the product page in Amazon or CB?
      Do you write some content eg a review and then say YOU CAN BUY IT HERE and then link to it or just drop the link in harmlessly?
      Or do you use a completely different strategy.

      I often find I am getting the right traffic but not converting enough sales for CB or Amazon products.

      Thanks again for all your amazing advice.
      I don't rely on widgets alone. I would put something like "Click Here for More Information" in text or buttons. Recently I saw a WSO by a warrior by the name of JRCarson (who has even posted on this thread -somewhere in the 3rd/4th pages). He has an excellent WSO on conversions from Amazon. I didn't read it completely yet, but from the little I read, it looked good. Here it is, I found it and it's only 7 bucks

      Then another EXCELLENT WSO on conversions which I read from front to back from a ClickBank top 1% marketer. I highly recommend it, he gives away some brilliant call for action buttons. Here it is http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-400-sold.html

      Both above WSOs are 7 bucks, highly recommended.

      I'll answer other questions later, a busy night!
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom L
        I looked at that Brad Fallon site that you posted and he's not ranking for any of those keywords. Something to think about...
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by Tom L View Post

          I looked at that Brad Fallon site that you posted and he's not ranking for any of those keywords. Something to think about...
          I'm not sure which phrases and where you searched. This is what I said

          1. IMPORTANT – you’ll learn a lot from this exercise as well. Do Google searches for wedding favors, unique wedding favors, bridal shower favors and unique bridal favors – you’ll see what I mean. This is StomperNet CEO Brad Fallon’s site. See how he links to it from his blog Wedding Favors and Accessories. Look at all the links at the bottom of this page. Search Google for those phrases, see what you get. Learn from it, you can probably spend a good hour learning stuff. Pay attention to the title tag, the description tag and the URL of the top ranking 3-5 sites and you’ll get a feel about how you should word these 3 components of your site. Just remember that you and I are not Brad Fallon and that we cannot target multiple keywords. If you are just starting out, trying to rank your site for multiple kw can hurt you more than it can help. So for now, do the above exercise, but focus on ranking one kw.
          One thing I wanted you to understand was that he is linking to his wedding site from his IM blog. If you go to that site of his, there is a list at the bottom that goes like I just checked the 1st 4 kws and all of them are in the top 3.

          However, I do see that the site has gone down to #3 for the main kw 'wedding favors'. Again shows the power of an exact kw match (of course there could be much more to it than that - but I don't see that #1 site ranking anywhere for other related phrases I checked).

          Besides, even if the site didn't rank for those kw, we shouldn't be surprised because we know this is not a static science/art. It is very much dynamic, the Panda was here, June 6th was here after I wrote that post, competitors build links, Brad Fallon may have focused on more buying phrases than the generic phrase 'wedding favors' etc. etc.

          Did I think enough?
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          • Profile picture of the author Tom L
            Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

            I'm not sure which phrases and where you searched. This is what I said

            One thing I wanted you to understand was that he is linking to his wedding site from his IM blog. If you go to that site of his, there is a list at the bottom that goes like I just checked the 1st 4 kws and all of them are in the top 3.

            However, I do see that the site has gone down to #3 for the main kw 'wedding favors'. Again shows the power of an exact kw match (of course there could be much more to it than that - but I don't see that #1 site ranking anywhere for other related phrases I checked).

            Besides, even if the site didn't rank for those kw, we shouldn't be surprised because we know this is not a static science/art. It is very much dynamic, the Panda was here, June 6th was here after I wrote that post, competitors build links, Brad Fallon may have focused on more buying phrases than the generic phrase 'wedding favors' etc. etc.

            Did I think enough?
            I'm not sure what your point was here. The guy ranked a merchant website which is not really touched by panda (as other merchant sites weren't).

            Are you saying he did something amazing by having multiple inner pages ranked?

            I've done so in numerous sites that I own and they get as much traffic as my domain page (also ranking). When you rank your inner pages, sometimes (not always) your main page will go down a couple of spots but come back much stronger if you simply keep linking to it as well for a few weeks.

            Back to the wedding site (it has so many links coming to it) that I doubt his linking to it from his site has any influence on it other than him showing off that he has it ranked.

            Don't really see the lesson here and when I look at your entire accomplishment... you had a good season, not even a season... a weekend. Can you do it again consistently year after year? That should really be the questions. Things change quickly and like with the stock market, your past results don't mean the future will look anything like it.

            Best of luck to you though...
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      • Profile picture of the author olamilekan2
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        Oh yes definitely... that is not good. What it looks like to me is you're adding it as a directory. That is no good. I don't know the setup inside BlueHost, so I suggest you talk to their tech support and get it sorted out ASAP! You will find it extremely difficult (if not impossible) to get good SEO benefits that way!

        You shouldn't have to set up a separate account for each domain. That's the idea of add on domains as far as I understand. You must have done something wrong in your control panel! Hope you are able to sort it out soon!



        Thanks man! Here's the thread http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...da-lately.html

        So it's not just me! Some guys had good fortune (like our MaineCoon) and some guys had misfortune (like Chucky).

        Lets wait and see what Google does here. Thanks again for directing me to that thread! I O U one



        Tough question! Let's see... assuming this email was from a genuine person. If it was genuine, the chances are it's from a 'vendor'/product creator/physical product owner kind of guy. If that is the case, you might be able to sell it for a good price.

        Ask yourself this question. At 60c/sale, how much are you going to make from the site/year considering the traffic volume you get/commercial intent. I'm going to be really pessimistic here and say you're site will only make commissions of about $500. Even if that is true, I wouldn't sell it for less than $1000, because c'mon for god sake it's #2.

        But then again, my analysis may be completely off. I've never sold a site, or even a domain. So you should probably seek the advice of somebody else. Sorry MaineCoon.

        Put a link to the website? To the affiliate network or product site? Either way make sure it's an affiliate link and also that it's not going to leak any clicks which otherwise could have converted to sales. The math certainly sounds very promising! Keep us updated!



        I don't rely on widgets alone. I would put something like "Click Here for More Information" in text or buttons. Recently I saw a WSO by a warrior by the name of JRCarson (who has even posted on this thread -somewhere in the 3rd/4th pages). He has an excellent WSO on conversions from Amazon. I didn't read it completely yet, but from the little I read, it looked good. Here it is, I found it and it's only 7 bucks

        Then another EXCELLENT WSO on conversions which I read from front to back from a ClickBank top 1% marketer. I highly recommend it, he gives away some brilliant call for action buttons. Here it is http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-400-sold.html

        Both above WSOs are 7 bucks, highly recommended.

        I'll answer other questions later, a busy night!
        thanks for these reccomendations, i have been thinking about this as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by Ephrils View Post

      I went ahead and bought the EMD domain anyway, but I'd like your opinion on this Chucky.

      The keyword I want gets 880 exact searches a month. It has a good CPC of over $1. It's "phrase match" searches for competition are less than 50,000. All that looks pretty good to me so far.

      The SERP for the keyword has a LOT of top level domains in the niche but that are not optimized for the keyword at all. Most of them have a very strong internal link structure that gives them 1000s of Inlinks. There's two pages in the search results which stand out. One is more optimized than the rest mentioning the keyword in it's URL(not top level), is a subdomain, and repeats it many times throughout the page in it's text. It carries a modest PR of 1 but made me think I could get there too.

      The other page, the #10 result, mentions the keyword more in passing. It's a text site that is clearly targeting the Adsense value of the term. There is plenty of Adwords ads for this term, but those 2 sites give me some hope. They have a decent amount of backlinks, through Web Directories mostly, it seems.

      I used the Wonder Wheel to get more keywords related to it, the ones that made the most sense to write content on, and bought the EMD. Indications show me this is a buying keyword, and if it proves not to be, Adsense should do something, so I may end up with something either way.

      I don't have any of the paid tools and did this all manually. Am I on the right track?
      Hey, sorry for the delay in answering your question. You seem to be doing the process right. However, I can't give an exact answer without knowing the exact sites that are competing.

      Can you pls tell me if I understood this right? "Most of them have a very strong internal link structure that gives them 1000s of Inlinks" Are you referring to links to the page of interest from the same domain? I guess this can only happen with Authority sites, article directories that have 1000s of pages.

      You should also look at the use of the kw in the title, meta description and H tags as well.

      I too won't worry about PR 1 of that site. From what I know web directory links are not hard to beat at all. So everything looks good!

      Yes you certainly seems to be on the right track. Don't hesitate to bring on any other questions you may come across!
      Chucky
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      • Profile picture of the author Ephrils
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        Hey, sorry for the delay in answering your question. You seem to be doing the process right. However, I can't give an exact answer without knowing the exact sites that are competing.

        Can you pls tell me if I understood this right? "Most of them have a very strong internal link structure that gives them 1000s of Inlinks" Are you referring to links to the page of interest from the same domain? I guess this can only happen with Authority sites, article directories that have 1000s of pages.

        You should also look at the use of the kw in the title, meta description and H tags as well.

        I too won't worry about PR 1 of that site. From what I know web directory links are not hard to beat at all. So everything looks good!

        Yes you certainly seems to be on the right track. Don't hesitate to bring on any other questions you may come across!
        Chucky
        Yes, I'm referring to Authority pages. The results show top level domains in the results and after using Yahoo Site Explorer on them discovered the majority of their links come from within the site. It creates a strong internal link structure that generally allows them to rank for all kinds of things they are not optimized for, like, this keyword.

        It looks like accidental competition for the most part, but they're still authority sites in the niche and may be harder than it looks to dethrone them.

        The bottom search results have those 2 sites more optimized for the keyword and seem to have easily landed there, also, on accident. The higher placed one is definitely the most optimized for the result and lands at #8 with the PR of 1.

        Actually, in the time I posted this until now, the smaller Adsense based site I mentioned earlier fell from position #10 to position #12. Interesting. Not unexpected, but interesting

        I feel if I really laser focus the site as you suggested to this term I should land on the front page pretty easily. Moving up the ranks will need some backlinks since I'm dealing with accidental authority sites as competition.

        Thanks for the reply
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  • Profile picture of the author arshavin
    Can i ask a question about keywords in articles please. Say we want 4 keywords per article. 3 of the keywords we find are very very similiar. 2 of them are actually the same thing almost, for example: adidas predator reviews and adidas predator review.

    Would you still try and have each of these appear in the article twice if they was secondary keywords?

    Or would you discard one and find a new keyword that isnt as similiar?
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    • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
      Chucky,

      I got a total of $70.10 commission for 2 sales in 2 days... this is so big for me. The site does not even rank top #5 but on the 1 page.
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      • Profile picture of the author MegaC
        Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

        Chucky,

        I got a total of $70.10 commission for 2 sales in 2 days... this is so big for me. The site does not even rank top #5 but on the 1 page.
        $70 for 2 sales? That's awesome! Are these CB products, if you don't mind answering.
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        • Profile picture of the author JROC777
          Chucky, If I could personally shake your hand and thank you I would. I honestly just cant believe the time you took to provide such valuable information to the rest of us.

          I top my hat to you sir your one of a kind. I only wish that some of the many programs and ebooks I've bought over the years could have provided so much useful information.

          I was also amazed at the time you've taken to answer questions its better than the support some paid programs provide lol.

          I know the thread is plenty long but I could not help myself I had to give credit where credit is deserved.

          Three Cheers For Chucky!!!!
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          • Profile picture of the author Chucky
            Originally Posted by arshavin View Post

            Can i ask a question about keywords in articles please. Say we want 4 keywords per article. 3 of the keywords we find are very very similiar. 2 of them are actually the same thing almost, for example: adidas predator reviews and adidas predator review.

            Would you still try and have each of these appear in the article twice if they was secondary keywords?

            Or would you discard one and find a new keyword that isnt as similiar?
            Hey, sorry I missed your question.

            No I wouldn't use these as two separate 2ry kw. However, I will ALWAYS use singular and plural versions of any kw I'm targeting whether they happen to be primary or secondary kw. It's important that you do it to make it look natural. When I do a Google Wonder wheel search for Adidas Predator Review, this is what I get; that's plenty of 2ry kw

            adidas predator review - Google Search

            Hope that helps!

            Originally Posted by JROC777 View Post

            Chucky, If I could personally shake your hand and thank you I would. I honestly just cant believe the time you took to provide such valuable information to the rest of us.

            I top my hat to you sir your one of a kind. I only wish that some of the many programs and ebooks I've bought over the years could have provided so much useful information.

            I was also amazed at the time you've taken to answer questions its better than the support some paid programs provide lol.

            I know the thread is plenty long but I could not help myself I had to give credit where credit is deserved.

            Three Cheers For Chucky!!!!
            Thank you very much for your kind words JROC777.

            Napoleon Hill of Think and Grow Rich and Tony Robbins have said something like 'The amount of money you make is directly proportional to the value you create for other people/number of lives you've touched'.

            So I guess I'm on the right track (although I haven't seen any money in my Paypal account from this venture yet )

            Thanks again!
            Chucky
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by JhezeR View Post

        Thanks Chucky! Makes sense, will wait till you do your more off page SEO write up for the rest
        Well actually although I say there's more to come, I've given out a lot of those in answering certain questions. What I wanted to do was write a methodical process saying this is what I would do A to Z. It's coming, but you shouldn't wait for it because that information is already mentioned on this thread in various posts.

        Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

        Chucky,

        I got a total of $70.10 commission for 2 sales in 2 days... this is so big for me. The site does not even rank top #5 but on the 1 page.
        There you go! Congrats! Now you've reached that point where you canNOT go back. Set backs are guaranteed, but you will bounce back. And then there will be a time when you would want to kill yourself when you have a $70 day. I had two days of <$100 last month and I was ready to kill myself. Hope that day will come to you much sooner than for me

        BTW, the phrase that is bringing you in sales may not necessarily be the one that is ranking #8. Your site may be ranked higher than that for other long tail phrases.

        I wish I knew of a way that would tell you which phrases brought you the sales. If you have rank tracker, you can put 100s of related kw in there (from Google adwords kw tool) and it will tell you the position your site is ranking for each of those kw.

        Alternatively your CPA network may provide 'pixels' that let's you track sales. Google analytics is another option which I don't know enough about again!

        Great news and keep us posted!
        Chucky
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      • Profile picture of the author IMKid
        Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

        Chucky,

        I got a total of $70.10 commission for 2 sales in 2 days... this is so big for me. The site does not even rank top #5 but on the 1 page.
        Whoa! Fabulouso newso!

        I'm also curious to find out, was it a clickbank product or amazon product? If it was Amazon, it has to be at least $800 product if my math is correct right?

        Congradulations!
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        • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
          Originally Posted by IMKid View Post

          Whoa! Fabulouso newso!

          I'm also curious to find out, was it a clickbank product or amazon product? If it was Amazon, it has to be at least $800 product if my math is correct right?

          Congradulations!
          For those who asked, it's not a clickbank product or amazon product. It's a private affiliate program with their own product and they offered me 35% for each sale. So each sale I generate I will make $30+

          So instead of Company > Amazon, clickbank, CJ, shareasale, etc > Me

          It will be Company > Me
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          • Profile picture of the author RayFinckle
            First of all i just want to say i am thankful and grateful for all the hard work you have put into this thread. i send you blessings and wish you nothing but more success. Givers gain!

            Now some questions (I'm new but have three site up, i agree with your attitude of take action. I also use visualization and ask the universe to guide me to profitable keywords

            ok, For the cbnet Ping Optimizer, is the list you say to copy and paste the one on the home page of pingler in the ping services with 20-30 different urls? i would post them but i dont have enough posts yet.




            Also, i have a site that promotes a physical product, the company has some really good sales videos on there site, do you recommend i put those on my site or just pre sell them and try to link them to that video?

            Thanks chucky
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            • Profile picture of the author Chucky
              Originally Posted by RayFinckle View Post

              First of all i just want to say i am thankful and grateful for all the hard work you have put into this thread. i send you blessings and wish you nothing but more success. Givers gain!

              Now some questions (I'm new but have three site up, i agree with your attitude of take action. I also use visualization and ask the universe to guide me to profitable keywords

              ok, For the cbnet Ping Optimizer, is the list you say to copy and paste the one on the home page of pingler in the ping services with 20-30 different urls? i would post them but i dont have enough posts yet.

              Also, i have a site that promotes a physical product, the company has some really good sales videos on there site, do you recommend i put those on my site or just pre sell them and try to link them to that video?

              Thanks chucky
              Thank you for your kind words! On Pingler, I believe it's 82. Here they are!

              api.my.yahoo.co.jp/RPC2
              audiorpc.weblogs.com/RPC2
              blog.goo.ne.jp/XMLRPC
              blogpeople.net/ping
              blogpeople.net/servlet/weblogUpdates
              blogsearch.google.ae/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.at/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.be/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.bg/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.ca/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.ch/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.cl/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.co.cr/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.co.hu/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.co.id/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.co.il/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.co.in/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.co.jp/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.co.ma/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.co.nz/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.co.th/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.co.uk/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.co.ve/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.co.za/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.ar/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.au/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.br/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.co/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.do/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.mx/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.my/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.pe/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.sa/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.sg/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.tr/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.tw/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.ua/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.uy/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com.vn/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.com/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.de/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.es/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.fi/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.fr/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.gr/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.hr/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.ie/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.it/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.jp/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.lt/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.nl/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.pl/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.pt/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.ro/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.ru/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.se/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.sk/ping/RPC2
              blogsearch.google.us/ping/RPC2
              ping.blo.gs
              ping.blo.gs/
              ping.blogs.yandex.ru/RPC2
              ping.feedburner.com
              ping.feedburner.com/
              ping.kutsulog.net/
              ping.myblog.jp
              ping.myblog.jp/
              ping.syndic8.com/xmlrpc.php
              ping.wordblog.de/
              rpc.aitellu.com
              rpc.bloggerei.de/ping/
              rpc.pingomatic.com
              rpc.reader.livedoor.com/ping
              rpc.twingly.com
              rpc.weblogs.com/RPC2
              services.newsgator.com/ngws/xmlrpcping.aspx
              www.blogpeople.net/ping
              www.blogpeople.net/servlet/weblogUpdates
              www.feedblitz.com/f/f.fbz?XmlPing
              www.wasalive.com/ping/
              www.zhuaxia.com/rpc/server.php
              xping.pubsub.com/ping/
              zhuaxia.com/rpc/server.php

              I don't think you can lose anything by inserting the videos to your presell page. If the videos are right, they will be even more pre-sold by the time they get to the company page right? But just make sure the videos are not youtube (because if they are, clicking on them will take them to youtube and they may find other products/videos there and get distracted) and also if the videos are clickable, that your affiliate cookie gets planted in the process.
              If there are multiple videos, you can insert one video on your page and at the bottom of it say, go here to watch more videos.
              Anyway video is a good idea because when people start watching the movie and start spending more time on your site, Google think your site is valuable and starts to rank you better (you need to have Google Analytics installed).
              Hope that helps!
              Chucky
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          • Profile picture of the author IMKid
            Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

            For those who asked, it's not a clickbank product or amazon product. It's a private affiliate program with their own product and they offered me 35% for each sale. So each sale I generate I will make $30+

            So instead of Company > Amazon, clickbank, CJ, shareasale, etc > Me

            It will be Company > Me
            private affy program ha!! 1st time i'm hearing about these. How do you get in to these? You write to individual companies? Would appreciate if you can share! thx
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeMack
    Wow Chucky...

    This is one of the best-written, info-packed threads I have seen posted here on the Warrior Forum. This is a must-read for newbies looking for guidance.

    I especially liked your section on keyword research. I have worked with TONS of newbies, and most greatly under-estimate the importance of proper keyword research. But you are correct, if you rush this step and pick the wrong keywrd phrases, it won't matter how hard you will work...chances are that you will never see any profits from your efforts. Sad but true.

    Again, great job on this thread. Lots of value given away for free. Very generous of you.

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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by JoeMack View Post

      Wow Chucky...

      This is one of the best-written, info-packed threads I have seen posted here on the Warrior Forum. This is a must-read for newbies looking for guidance.

      I especially liked your section on keyword research. I have worked with TONS of newbies, and most greatly under-estimate the importance of proper keyword research. But you are correct, if you rush this step and pick the wrong keywrd phrases, it won't matter how hard you will work...chances are that you will never see any profits from your efforts. Sad but true.

      Again, great job on this thread. Lots of value given away for free. Very generous of you.

      JoeMack
      Appreciate those words sir! It's great to heat that from a Senior Warrior. I myself have paid the price of poor kw research. And it can really slowdown your success or even completely throw you out of IM even before you've begun!
      I only hope people make use of what I've provided. Thanks again!

      Originally Posted by Ephrils View Post

      I'm plugging away at my niche site right now. I needed to do a bit more research on secondary keywords to be sure I was using buying keywords that have competition I can handle.

      The site looks good so far. First getting content up, then getting backlinks Got to sign up for a few more affiliate programs too.

      I hope I'll be able to update in here about my progress.
      Sounds great! Will be looking forward to hearing your success!

      Originally Posted by alannadodd View Post

      gosh i think theres gold in this thread but its late and im knackered, so it is bookmarked and ready to read tomorrow. and thank you for your generosity.
      OK, let us know if there are any questions that you come across! Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hlatky
    Hey Chucky,

    I know you mentioned the other day that a few of your sites had been hit by Google. I was wondering if you had seen any change today?

    A bunch of my sites popped up from out of nowhere and now have top rankings again.

    Cheers!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky View Post

      Hey Chucky,

      I know you mentioned the other day that a few of your sites had been hit by Google. I was wondering if you had seen any change today?

      A bunch of my sites popped up from out of nowhere and now have top rankings again.

      Cheers!
      Congrats man! No such luck for me I'll just keep praying!
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  • Profile picture of the author arie_ds
    I hope you get your sites back.. Thanks for your thread, it has been very useful.
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    • Profile picture of the author NicSennen
      Chucky - Hope your sites are ok and haven't been badly affected by Panda - you are amazingly generous sharing your methods like this!


      A question if you have time to answer - say I have an existing site with a bit of age and 100+ posts with a generic domain name like bestfreezer .com all the posts being about freezers of various types, how freezers work, freezer recipes etc. but not targeted towards any particular make and model of freezer and not ranking for anything much - how would you adapt this site to your system? Or would you forget it and start again?

      I am thinking of either writing a front page (sticky) post as you describe about the best keyword I can find for a particular model of freezer and target the entire site towards that although it won't be in the domain name - OR - sticky a "Top 10 Freezers" post to the front page with links to a post targeted to each individual type of freezer.


      With your larger sites that have 30+ posts, are all the posts just about one particular product?
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by arie_ds View Post

        I hope you get your sites back.. Thanks for your thread, it has been very useful.
        Thanks bud, Google seems to be sorting out some issues they're having with their algos!

        Originally Posted by NicSennen View Post

        Chucky - Hope your sites are ok and haven't been badly affected by Panda - you are amazingly generous sharing your methods like this!


        A question if you have time to answer - say I have an existing site with a bit of age and 100+ posts with a generic domain name like bestfreezer .com all the posts being about freezers of various types, how freezers work, freezer recipes etc. but not targeted towards any particular make and model of freezer and not ranking for anything much - how would you adapt this site to your system? Or would you forget it and start again?

        I am thinking of either writing a front page (sticky) post as you describe about the best keyword I can find for a particular model of freezer and target the entire site towards that although it won't be in the domain name - OR - sticky a "Top 10 Freezers" post to the front page with links to a post targeted to each individual type of freezer.


        With your larger sites that have 30+ posts, are all the posts just about one particular product?
        Hey, thanks!

        Actually none of my Amazon sites were affected by Panda. Nothing happened at Panda 1.0. But then what I thought was my most stable site, which was a 40 page 'authority' site that had about a dozen #1 rankings and about 25 page 1 rankings disappear on the 7th of July! It was nearly 4 years old and I never expected that. I actually lost another one in the same niche that day. That was smaller though, it had about 10 posts I think. Anyways, we'll see what happens!

        I would go ahead and make it an authority site. First I would try to find the kw that it's already ranking for. If they are of commercial value, I would do an article marketing campaign targeting those kw. I'd probably do it even if they were not of commercial value just to get Google to notice that you're getting visitors and they're spending time in your site.

        Then I would restructure the site a little bit doing some on page optimization. Yes, I would have a sticky that targets the most competitive kw you want to rank for. Then I would put that kw in the footer as an anchor text hyperlink to your homepage so that Google knows that that's your main kw. Make sure you optimize your new sticky posts URL and everything else that I talk about to that kw your targeting.

        Then I would also rewrite/insert a few sentences to your other posts with that main kw hyperlink. If you already have that kw phrase randomly in your posts, I would go ahead and install a plugin like WordPress › SEO Smart Links « WordPress Plugins (there might be others that do the same job that are better - but this is what I use) and get some interlinking running for the kw you want to target.

        I would not only do this for your sticky post, but also pick at least 5 more target kw and optimize those 5 and use the other 95+ posts to build links to those 5 posts.

        I would go for a generic search term like top 10 freezers or best freezers instead of a freezer model. That way your rankings won't go wasted even after that particular model gets obsolete.

        My sites with 30+ posts.... no they are not product based Amazon like sites. They are information product based sites. So I have my sticky post which reviews 3-4 products. And then all the other pages target long tail kw.

        Hope that helps and pls don't hesitate to shoot any other questions you may come across!
        Chucky
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  • Profile picture of the author calfred
    Nice, this thread is still going strong!

    It's on fire!

    A very useful thread indeed. I wished this was available to me back in 2010 when I had started.

    This is the thread of the year for 2011.
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    • Profile picture of the author amarketing
      Hey Chucky, I have a question for your (if it's not too personal).

      What is the content like that you put on your niche-sites? I mean, do you just ramble about the product so the content seems relevant (a tactic sometimes used with adsense sites), so do you write in a manner to sell. That is, are your pages reviews, comparisons, descriptions, etc?

      Sorry if this was covered earlier in the thread. I read through and didn't see it.

      Thanks for all of the effort you've put into this thread and all of the knowledge you have shared.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by calfred View Post

        Nice, this thread is still going strong!

        It's on fire!

        A very useful thread indeed. I wished this was available to me back in 2010 when I had started.

        This is the thread of the year for 2011.
        Hey Calfred! Thank you sir for your kind comment!

        By the way, I checked your blog. I'm glad you are in the muscle building niche and not in the P.. enlargement niche

        Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

        Hey Chucky, I have a question for your (if it's not too personal).

        What is the content like that you put on your niche-sites? I mean, do you just ramble about the product so the content seems relevant (a tactic sometimes used with adsense sites), so do you write in a manner to sell. That is, are your pages reviews, comparisons, descriptions, etc?

        Sorry if this was covered earlier in the thread. I read through and didn't see it.

        Thanks for all of the effort you've put into this thread and all of the knowledge you have shared.
        Hey! No worries!

        The more questions the better!

        There are 2 kinds of content on these 5 page sites.

        The first kind is just 500 word articles that I outsource which are nothing more than search engine fodder. I honestly don't even read them, I just check to see if they have been written according to the on page SEO rules I give them. I know it's not the best, but I have no time for anything else!

        Then once these sites start ranking on page 1, that's when I go and do a product review, add real valuable content and add affiliate links.

        I pick the best selling products in that niche, try to pick a range of products that would cater to different buyers' needs (cheap to expensive, boys and girls, small and large, corded and cordless etc.) make a table comparing their main features and give pros and cons. Then I make this one my sticky post so that all the visitors to my homepage see it.

        But I do see that my sub-pages get many long tail kw traffic and I'm not making any sales from those visitors. On a few sites, I have gone on and added the sentence "For a review of the best 'my product keyword', visit our homepage on mykeyword.com" in large bold font to the top of all the other non-homepage posts. So the idea is to use divert that traffic to my sales page and also to give an interlinking boost with the main kw as anchor text. But I have no idea how many people click these links. Lately I've been using the 'featured post' feature of the thesis theme to do it. Earlier I have done it by adding that simple sentence to the single-post.php file. Alternatively, you can go to each post and add manually as well.

        Hope that answered your question! Don't hesitate to ask more questions!
        Chucky
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        • Profile picture of the author amarketing
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          Hey Calfred! Thank you sir for your kind comment!

          By the way, I checked your blog. I'm glad you are in the muscle building niche and not in the P.. enlargement niche



          Hey! No worries!

          The more questions the better!

          There are 2 kinds of content on these 5 page sites.

          The first kind is just 500 word articles that I outsource which are nothing more than search engine fodder. I honestly don't even read them, I just check to see if they have been written according to the on page SEO rules I give them. I know it's not the best, but I have no time for anything else!

          Then once these sites start ranking on page 1, that's when I go and do a product review, add real valuable content and add affiliate links.

          I pick the best selling products in that niche, try to pick a range of products that would cater to different buyers' needs (cheap to expensive, boys and girls, small and large, corded and cordless etc.) make a table comparing their main features and give pros and cons. Then I make this one my sticky post so that all the visitors to my homepage see it.

          But I do see that my sub-pages get many long tail kw traffic and I'm not making any sales from those visitors. On a few sites, I have gone on and added the sentence "For a review of the best 'my product keyword', visit our homepage on mykeyword.com" in large bold font to the top of all the other non-homepage posts. So the idea is to use divert that traffic to my sales page and also to give an interlinking boost with the main kw as anchor text. But I have no idea how many people click these links. Lately I've been using the 'featured post' feature of the thesis theme to do it. Earlier I have done it by adding that simple sentence to the single-post.php file. Alternatively, you can go to each post and add manually as well.

          Hope that answered your question! Don't hesitate to ask more questions!
          Chucky
          Chucky, thanks a lot for your reply (and sorry about my poor grammar in the question, I was typing in a rush).

          You clearly answered my question. I see your point for doing this as well. You're putting up seo articles so that you can get a site made as fast as possible and move on to the next niche. Then, once you see that the first site is showing potential (i.e. ranking high, getting traffic), you put on the sales copy.

          This way, if the site doesn't climb, you won't have a lot of time (or money for premium content) invested in it.

          Also, I noticed you mentioned you don't put up affiliate links until after the site is ranked. Do you think this helps to rank the site?

          Thanks again.
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    Hey Chucky,

    I was looking through another WOO and found that you've left a comment, as well. The WSO was about building links through PAD submissions. Have you personally had any experience with this type of link building? The author claims to ranks sites pretty high within 24-72 hours, which seems pretty bold to me. Nevertheless, I just thought I'd ask you about it as perhaps it can be quite effective even if it's not quite as powerful as he says.
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  • Profile picture of the author sebski22
    Hey Chucky and the rest of you guys,

    I'm sitting here with a cold beer and contemplating everything that is going on with my sites...some good, some bad, but all experience!

    I have taken some great advice from you guys so far and think things are heading in the right direction for me...but not nearly quick enough for my liking!...Google is still killing me with the dance on my main Amazon site and its really getting frustrating but I think I'll just have to ride it out by adding good content and a bit of gentle Backlinking to get her back on page 1.

    Anyway, I'm back with a rather simple question that I hope some helpful soul has some experience with...sorry if it's been cover and I've missed it.

    When adding content to my sites I have been emphasizing all the KWs I have identified with Bold, Italic or Underscore (or a combination of them all) throughout the whole content. That means every time one of my 4 KW's appears it is EMPHASIZED.

    Is this too much and do you think it could cause problems with SEO?

    I have heard about KW stuffing and I don't want to cause any issues with my content.

    Also what are your thoughts on Adsense within your sites?

    I can't decide if I should Force the Affiliate Click or dilute the effect with secondary click options like Adsense for my visitors?

    With Adsense I guess I get some additional revenue but also there is a chance the customer hits that link when they may have gone for a more profitable Affiliate link if there were no other choices.

    Thanks Again,

    Seb
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by junilerick View Post

      Hey Chucky,

      I was looking through another WOO and found that you've left a comment, as well. The WSO was about building links through PAD submissions. Have you personally had any experience with this type of link building? The author claims to ranks sites pretty high within 24-72 hours, which seems pretty bold to me. Nevertheless, I just thought I'd ask you about it as perhaps it can be quite effective even if it's not quite as powerful as he says.
      Hey! Long time no see

      Is this Joe Malibu's WSO you're referring to? If it is, yes I definitely recommend the software he uses for PAD submissions. As you will see on this post I made on April 2nd, I mention that I use Promosoft (which is twice the price of what Joe recommends) together with something IncanSoft's Big Mike recommends (for producing the PAD file).

      I had honestly done this only a handful of times (before Joe Malibu's WSO) simply because it was too difficult and time consuming. I also felt I was spamming because I was simply making a PDF and making a PAD file out of it and that's what I submitted. But Joe shows how to make an actual software (free method) and now I don't feel I'm spamming software directories with PDFs.

      I don't know if this alone can give you a top 10 ranking. I only used to do this as a last resort when everything else didn't work. Once or twice I used a round of software submission on a site that was stuck at #3-4 and a few days after the submission I got #1. This could have been an effect of the software submission.

      After Joe's WSO, I bought the submitter he recommends and instead of submitting to all 1000 in one go, I submitted at 100/day. I've only done it once and again I saw an improvement in rankings. I didn't hit page 1 because this is a real tough kw that I'm after.

      So take home message is it works. And especially if your competitors don't have them, you are bound to get an edge over them.

      Hope that helps! And sorry for the delay in responding (didn't check the thread for a couple of days)

      Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

      Chucky, thanks a lot for your reply (and sorry about my poor grammar in the question, I was typing in a rush).

      You clearly answered my question. I see your point for doing this as well. You're putting up seo articles so that you can get a site made as fast as possible and move on to the next niche. Then, once you see that the first site is showing potential (i.e. ranking high, getting traffic), you put on the sales copy.

      This way, if the site doesn't climb, you won't have a lot of time (or money for premium content) invested in it.

      Also, I noticed you mentioned you don't put up affiliate links until after the site is ranked. Do you think this helps to rank the site?

      Thanks again.
      Hey,

      Actually the reason I don't spend time on putting up a sales page is not because I'm not sure if it would make the 1st page or not. It's because I have to write it myself and I don't have time (I'm a graduate student with a lot of lab research - even during summer ).

      However, the point you make is also valid. You don't know for sure if it's going to make it to page 1. But I like to think positive Four out of five of the last network I made (actually the one before the last one) hit the 1st page (#3, #3, #6, #10 and #16). Unfortunately this was a bad niche, which I still can't believe. It's an Amazon toy niche and sales are unbelievably bad. So bad that one day I'm going to reveal all 5 sites and launch a WSO .

      I'm also not one that moves from niche to niche. I try to consolidate a niche using different groups of kw. Vertical and lateral kw research!! Once you see that a particular niche has buyers willing to spend money, you should conquer different kw and try to make inroads to different markets! Hope that makes sense.

      Affy links? I believe NOT having affiliate links at least until you hit the first 10 pages is good. But not sure if it is correct or not. In the past, I have had affy links from day 1 and still gotten #1 eventually!

      Hope that helps and feel free to bring 'em on
      Chcuky

      Originally Posted by sebski22 View Post

      Hey Chucky and the rest of you guys,

      I'm sitting here with a cold beer and contemplating everything that is going on with my sites...some good, some bad, but all experience!

      I have taken some great advice from you guys so far and think things are heading in the right direction for me...but not nearly quick enough for my liking!...Google is still killing me with the dance on my main Amazon site and its really getting frustrating but I think I'll just have to ride it out by adding good content and a bit of gentle Backlinking to get her back on page 1.

      Anyway, I'm back with a rather simple question that I hope some helpful soul has some experience with...sorry if it's been cover and I've missed it.

      When adding content to my sites I have been emphasizing all the KWs I have identified with Bold, Italic or Underscore (or a combination of them all) throughout the whole content. That means every time one of my 4 KW's appears it is EMPHASIZED.

      Is this too much and do you think it could cause problems with SEO?

      I have heard about KW stuffing and I don't want to cause any issues with my content.

      Also what are your thoughts on Adsense within your sites?

      I can't decide if I should Force the Affiliate Click or dilute the effect with secondary click options like Adsense for my visitors?

      With Adsense I guess I get some additional revenue but also there is a chance the customer hits that link when they may have gone for a more profitable Affiliate link if there were no other choices.

      Thanks Again,

      Seb
      Getting late for something Seb, will answer your question tonight/tomorrow morning. Short answer is 'NO it's not a good thing'
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    • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
      Wow, amazing stuff
      I was lucky I read chucky

      This stuff has been priceless, so I just wanted to offer something back to everyone who may be interested.
      (sorry as this is my first post I can't show real link)

      You can grab a free .edu blog by visiting
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      Sign up as an independent researcher
      fill in the form
      and you're good to go

      Linking works best if you do it like academics rather than marketers, so post short articles and list links at the bottom of the text, rather than inside the content.

      I only picked up on this a few days ago, seems kosher, but I suggest you hurry, cos they'll be closing this back door soon...

      Also, looking for anyone who fancies 'swapping' Yahoo Answer links...
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by sebski22 View Post

        Hey Chucky and the rest of you guys,

        I'm sitting here with a cold beer and contemplating everything that is going on with my sites...some good, some bad, but all experience!

        I have taken some great advice from you guys so far and think things are heading in the right direction for me...but not nearly quick enough for my liking!...Google is still killing me with the dance on my main Amazon site and its really getting frustrating but I think I'll just have to ride it out by adding good content and a bit of gentle Backlinking to get her back on page 1.

        Anyway, I'm back with a rather simple question that I hope some helpful soul has some experience with...sorry if it's been cover and I've missed it.

        When adding content to my sites I have been emphasizing all the KWs I have identified with Bold, Italic or Underscore (or a combination of them all) throughout the whole content. That means every time one of my 4 KW's appears it is EMPHASIZED.

        Is this too much and do you think it could cause problems with SEO?

        I have heard about KW stuffing and I don't want to cause any issues with my content.

        Also what are your thoughts on Adsense within your sites?

        I can't decide if I should Force the Affiliate Click or dilute the effect with secondary click options like Adsense for my visitors?

        With Adsense I guess I get some additional revenue but also there is a chance the customer hits that link when they may have gone for a more profitable Affiliate link if there were no other choices.

        Thanks Again,

        Seb
        It is ALL experience! That's the attitude!

        OK let's slow down and think about this for a while. Are you planning on ranking one of these pages (with different kw emphasized) for multiple kw? Or would you rather try and rank one page per kw? In the first instance, your page is NOT optimized for any one of those single phrases. Therefore you're going to find it more difficult to rank it for any one of the phrases.
        On the other hand, if you optimize each page for a given kw, life would be much easier. Even in your backlinking campaign, you can target each page with a different anchor text.

        Eventually, your pages are going to rank for multiple search terms regardless of whether you targeted them or not. Some of those, you have no idea why! And that's when you can identify those kw and 'reoptimize' those pages a little bit and throw in a few backlinks with anchor text targeting those phrases (that your pages are already ranking for) and then you move much faster.

        In my personal opinion, it's not a good idea to target a given page/post for multiple phrases at the beginning. Once they start ranking, that's when you manipulate and get multiple rankings.

        I don't think it will go down as kw stuffing because you're using LSI! That's a good thing. But emphasizing all of them is what is NOT good here. "...every time one of my 4 KW's appears it is EMPHASIZED..." Do you think that would look natural?

        About AdSense... that's a decision I make at the kw research phase. I personally don't do sites purely for AdSense. My belief is that if you can get 100 visitors, I'd rather sell 1 product that gives me $25 than get 30 clicks at 50 cents. I've never been good enough to get more than a 30% CTR.

        What I often do though is to have adsense right at the bottom of my promotional copy so that if the visitor read the whole post, came past all the affy links without clicking on them....now that might be a good candidate for an adsense 25c. But I don't know if that thinking is correct or not. In May I had over $100 from AdSense after a long long time. So I'm probably not the right person to tell you where you should place your ads

        Hope that helped! Bring 'em on!
        Chucky

        Originally Posted by PeckhamPirate View Post

        Wow, amazing stuff
        I was lucky I read chucky

        This stuff has been priceless, so I just wanted to offer something back to everyone who may be interested.
        (sorry as this is my first post I can't show real link)

        You can grab a free .edu blog by visiting
        all the ws. academia dot edu slash signup

        Sign up as an independent researcher
        fill in the form
        and you're good to go

        Linking works best if you do it like academics rather than marketers, so post short articles and list links at the bottom of the text, rather than inside the content.

        I only picked up on this a few days ago, seems kosher, but I suggest you hurry, cos they'll be closing this back door soon...

        Also, looking for anyone who fancies 'swapping' Yahoo Answer links...
        (Like you ask a q, vote me winner and I'll return the favour)
        Thanks a bunch for the share! I'm going to check it out right away!
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        • Profile picture of the author sebski22
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          In my personal opinion, it's not a good idea to target a given page/post for multiple phrases at the beginning. Once they start ranking, that's when you manipulate and get multiple rankings.

          I don't think it will go down as kw stuffing because you're using LSI! That's a good thing. But emphasizing all of them is what is NOT good here. "...every time one of my 4 KW's appears it is EMPHASIZED..." Do you think that would look natural?

          About AdSense... that's a decision I make at the kw research phase. I personally don't do sites purely for AdSense. My belief is that if you can get 100 visitors, I'd rather sell 1 product that gives me $25 than get 30 clicks at 50 cents. I've never been good enough to get more than a 30% CTR.

          What I often do though is to have adsense right at the bottom of my promotional copy so that if the visitor read the whole post, came past all the affy links without clicking on them....now that might be a good candidate for an adsense 25c. But I don't know if that thinking is correct or not. In May I had over $100 from AdSense after a long long time. So I'm probably not the right person to tell you where you should place your ads

          Hope that helped! Bring 'em on!
          Chucky
          Thanks again for the Reply Chucky,

          Just to clarify on the KW emphasis a little then, what you suggest is to simply Emphasise the main KW for that given Article that I aim to rank for?

          Sounds very logical now that you point it out. :rolleyes:

          Do you think it would be worth going back over the articles on my various Blogs and amending the KW emphasis to make them more exact?

          I am beginning to think this may be a reason I am not hitting page one as fast as I thought I would in some very low comp niches :confused:

          Thanks for the reply, your a LEGEND!

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    When adding content to my sites I have been emphasizing all the KWs I have identified with Bold, Italic or Underscore (or a combination of them all) throughout the whole content. That means every time one of my 4 KW's appears it is EMPHASIZED.

    I too don't think this is a good idea. I use the plugin seopressor and even that asks you to emphasize one keyword for every post. If you don't have seopressor, I just saw a thread here which talked about a free alternative to seopressor. You might want to search for it and check it out. I haven't used it though, but it looks good. Chucky do you know of any free alternatives to seopressor?

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    • Profile picture of the author amarketing
      Chucky, I was wondering. You said early on that you link from your sites to authority pages (is this correct?). Are these links no-follow?

      Thanks again.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

        Chucky, I was wondering. You said early on that you link from your sites to authority pages (is this correct?). Are these links no-follow?

        Thanks again.
        Yup, I did say that. And yes I do I do make them no follow. I usually put them (not more than 2) in the footer along with other kw that point to my own domain/posts (same website; not my other websites). I also sometimes put them as editorial links inside paragraphs in separate posts which are not my sales copy. If I do put it in my sales copy (which I have done rarely), I make the anchor text black so that people won't click on it.

        I have recently seen a couple of people saying that making these no follow is unnatural. Then there is also another group of SEOers that say nofollow is BS. I wouldn't be able to tell you what's exactly right. Nofollow has worked for me to date!

        Hope that helps!
        Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author agmantz
    Hi Chucky,

    I'm new in this and I've been reading your post in these thread and thanks alot for sharing your experience.

    What is the proper way in creating the homepage of your blog?
    I mean, first we use a sticky post making it always on top. But do you need to post the whole content in the home page or just a portion of it by placing read more to continue?

    Thanks
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      Thanks a lot for answering my question, Chucky! I appreciate your replies and I'm sure everyone else does, too.

      I remember that you said you put those links in the footer, but forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me!

      I also learned that you put many of your intra-site links in the footer as well. I never thought about that, but it makes sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Love
    Hey Chucky,

    You definitely have some great concepts and ideas in this post. I implemented your ideas a few weeks ago and have already hit page 1. I realize the google dance is in play and that I will be constantly jostling for position, but that's the IM game and probably will always be.

    Regardless, I wanted to say thank you! The information you provided is the foundation I needed to build on...

    Good luck with your sites and thanks again.

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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by sebski22 View Post

      Thanks again for the Reply Chucky,

      Just to clarify on the KW emphasis a little then, what you suggest is to simply Emphasise the main KW for that given Article that I aim to rank for?
      Yup that's what I do. Optimize 1 page per kw at the beginning.

      After the sites rank I would try to rank one page for multiple kw. For example, 56 inch LCD HDTV, best 56 inch LCD HDTV, 56 inch LCD TV, 56 inch LCD HDTV but I wouldn't try to optimize the same page for the phrase 46 inch LCD HDTV as well. In my experience, sites have to be relatively aged and mature to do this. But then again, I don't emphasize different kw on page. I build links with different anchor text. Got it?


      Do you think it would be worth going back over the articles on my various Blogs and amending the KW emphasis to make them more exact?
      I think so Seb, I think that would be a good idea!


      Thanks for the reply, your a LEGEND!

      Seb
      Thanks man, you're very kind! But there's plenty out there that I have no clue about!

      Originally Posted by agmantz View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      I'm new in this and I've been reading your post in these thread and thanks alot for sharing your experience.

      What is the proper way in creating the homepage of your blog?
      I mean, first we use a sticky post making it always on top. But do you need to post the whole content in the home page or just a portion of it by placing read more to continue?

      Thanks
      You're welcome!

      Yes I do post the whole content (in Thesis, they call it a feature post). I usually set my homepage so that there are no teasers (just a portion of posts). I only have the one sticky post which is feature post.

      But it is important to give links to other posts in your site for bots to crawl through. That's why you should have in text links to inner pages and may be also some links on the sidebar (in appearance --> widgets, drag a 'Killer Recent Posts' to the sidebar widget) and some more in the footer as well.

      Look at all the links in the footer and sidebar of this site Wall Tapestries and Wall Decor Hangings from The Tapestry Standard

      Obviously it's not mine, but it belongs to a Stomper and it's a site they take as an example when teaching people. It also ranks high for phrases like european wall tapestries.

      Hope that helped, don't hesitate ask more if you have!
      Chucky
      Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

      Thanks a lot for answering my question, Chucky! I appreciate your replies and I'm sure everyone else does, too.

      I remember that you said you put those links in the footer, but forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me!

      I also learned that you put many of your intra-site links in the footer as well. I never thought about that, but it makes sense.
      Yup, links in the footer as well as sidebar. Look at this example Wall Tapestries and Wall Decor Hangings from The Tapestry Standard and this example Stylish Wedding Favors - Unique Wedding Favors at Affordable Prices

      I didn't check if they have external links that were no followed, but certainly have a lot of internal links that help the juice flow through and help SE bots find their way through.

      Originally Posted by Matt Love View Post

      Hey Chucky,

      You definitely have some great concepts and ideas in this post. I implemented your ideas a few weeks ago and have already hit page 1. I realize the google dance is in play and that I will be constantly jostling for position, but that's the IM game and probably will always be.

      Regardless, I wanted to say thank you! The information you provided is the foundation I needed to build on...

      Good luck with your sites and thanks again.

      Matt
      Thanks Matt!

      It's great to hear that you're making progress. Diversify your VRE assets, make 10 instead of 2, that way even if you are sandboxed or raped by Panda, the chances are at least a few will survive and continue to bring the cash! Thanks and all the best to you too!
      Chucky
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      • Profile picture of the author agmantz
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        Yes I do post the whole content (in Thesis, they call it a feature post). I usually set my homepage so that there are no teasers (just a portion of posts). I only have the one sticky post which is feature post.
        ... Chucky
        Thanks for the reply Chucky.

        A follow-up question, Is there a change that the home page will be a duplicate content of the original post?


        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        I didn't check if they have external links that were no followed, but certainly have a lot of internal links that help the juice flow through and help SE bots find their way through.
        ... Chucky
        Examining the site and I found just two outbound link located at the bottom of the page with do-follow.

        Thanks Again
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  • Profile picture of the author rschuchy
    Wow! This is an amazing post. Thanks so much for the information and inspiration, you've given me a couple of concrete ideas to take action on. Again, thanks.
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    Wooww.. It's great Chuck. I try to do that and can't wait for the result. Thanks..
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  • Profile picture of the author Hotness
    Chucky, Congratulations on your success! ... And a big thumbs up for sharing in such in depth details with the community.

    I having been utilizing something similar to your strategy and have achieved brilliant results since. Anyway, you might have already shared this but I am only into page 5 and can't wait to ask you questions:

    When you are expanding/building sites beyond 5 pages/posts...

    1. For the rest of the posts what keywords do you focus on? More on Theme Keywords perhaps? And how does it affect your SERPs when you have settled at top positions?

    2. Have you tried to focus on more keywords?

    3. Have you tried to add in additional tougher secondary keywords?

    Thank you!
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    • Profile picture of the author amarketing
      Chucky, what do you do for the about us, privacy policy/disclaimer (are they the same things) pages?

      Do you hire someone to write these up?

      Thanks, and by the way, I like the examples. They really shed some light on what you were talking about.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by agmantz View Post

        Thanks for the reply Chucky.

        A follow-up question, Is there a change that the home page will be a duplicate content of the original post?

        Examining the site and I found just two outbound link located at the bottom of the page with do-follow.

        Thanks Again
        VERY good question! Here is what I have seen. I have had double listings for the homepage and the sticky post on page 1. Let's say my URL is 'MensWatches.com' and my sticky post is 'MensWatches.com/best-mens-watches/'; I have had a double listing (indented listing) for the same post with the above 2 URLs.

        I was obviously not complaining but it didn't last for long. I can recall this happening at least 3 times. I think this tells me that Google failed to identify them as the same content at least initially. From what I know, SEs are supposed to be able to identify this and rank only 1 URL.

        I'm afraid I don't know more than that about this issue. However, what I do know is that using sticky posts is not a bad practice. I do it in 100% of my sites and it works.

        I did a search and pulled another instance where someone else also asked the same question. http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...e-content.html

        About the footer links: Aha so he made it do follow. But then, could it have been two of his own sites? Or paid links? In which case he would make them do follow and it doesn't hurt him overall! Or were they pointing to non-commercial sites? As I mentioned earlier, there are 2 schools of thoughts on this. Some people say making them nofollow is unnatural while others say make them nofollow! One of those things where you shouldn't worry about it and just pick one or do it 50:50 and see if it makes any difference!

        Originally Posted by Hotness View Post

        Chucky, Congratulations on your success! ... And a big thumbs up for sharing in such in depth details with the community.

        I having been utilizing something similar to your strategy and have achieved brilliant results since. Anyway, you might have already shared this but I am only into page 5 and can't wait to ask you questions:

        When you are expanding/building sites beyond 5 pages/posts...

        1. For the rest of the posts what keywords do you focus on? More on Theme Keywords perhaps? And how does it affect your SERPs when you have settled at top positions?

        2. Have you tried to focus on more keywords?

        3. Have you tried to add in additional tougher secondary keywords?

        Thank you!
        Haruka
        Hi Haruka, Thanks for your comments and feel free to ask any question! I will answer them to the best of my knowledge!

        OK, let's see if I can answer this question by taking an example. I've only attempted this twice, both were successful. But then Panda 2.2 killed one of those earlier this month. But I don't think it had anything to do with this strategy. This is going to be a long answer, here goes...

        I'm going to talk about the example that I started earlier this year, where I was more SEO mature in doing things. This was not the one affected by Panda OK. I'm going to pick a similar phrase so that I will be able to explain exactly what I did.

        The initial kw that I targeted was some thing like 'cordless camping lights'. The EMD was not available so I bought 'cordless camping lights reviews'. The title of my sticky post was something like 'cordless camping lights - best cordless electric camping lights review' and the URL was 'cordlesscampinglightsreviews.com/best-cordless-camping-lights'.

        The order of search volumes in descending order were something like this...
        camping lights
        cordless lights
        cordless camping lights
        electric camping lights
        cordless light review
        best camping light
        best light
        best electric lights
        best light review
        best camping light review

        I was afraid to target any of the high search volume 2 word phrases at the beginning, that's why I went for the 3 word 'cordless camping lights' as my theme kw. However, from experience I knew that the phrases with the highest commercial value were going to be the ones with 'best' and 'review' and that's why I targeted those in my sticky post. See how I strategically placed both cordless and electric in my sticky post title and url!

        Initially I only targeted my theme kw in my link building campaign. I might have built a few links with best and review kw, but the majority targeted my 3 word theme kw. Those links went to the homepage, sticky post and other posts. I also made sure that almost all of my inner posts had a hyperlink to the sticky post and/or the homepage with that anchor text. Once I started to rank well... may be in the top 3 pages, I increased the amount of best and review kw anchor text backlinks. When I do this, I almost always see a drop in rankings for the main theme kw.

        Then once I hit the top of the page 1 (I'm still #3 for this, Google shopping results and consumersearch are in front of me), that's when I started targeting the 2 word high traffic kw. Right now, I have many #1 positions for this site for long talk kw and I'm like #6 for 'cordless lights'. Tomorrow, I'll post an image showing my rankings if I can mange to conceal the exact domain name and search phrases.

        Will talk about the other site that Google Pandized tomorrow! Have a ton of work tonight!

        Hope that was what you asked.
        Chucky


        Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

        Chucky, what do you do for the about us, privacy policy/disclaimer (are they the same things) pages?

        Do you hire someone to write these up?

        Thanks, and by the way, I like the examples. They really shed some light on what you were talking about.
        Yup they are the same ones, that's why I make them noindex, nofollow so that someone can't do a search and find all of my sites like in the following case

        "We have had a large internet presence for many years and we sure aren't going anywhere" - Google Search

        For privacy policy, there is a plugin I mentioned. For disclosure, you can generate one on DisclosurePolicy.org: Disclosure Policy, Disclosure Policy Generator others I think I copied from another site and rewrote myself
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        • Profile picture of the author amarketing
          Thanks a lot, Chucky for posting that link.

          I wanted to let you know that you have motivated me to take action. It's not great action, and it's really just the first step, but you inspired me to take it.

          I got a free sld (second level domain), which I know wasn't in line with your rules, but it was my best option at this time. It is exact-match for a very low comp keyword. I should probably have shot for one with a little more search volume, but since I'm just starting out, it's probably good to to get my feet wet with not-as-valuable keywords so I'm practiced and ready when I move on to more valuable ones.

          I just installed Wordpress on it and will start building my site. I'm a little daunted at the prospect, but I'm sure I will get the hang of it.

          Is a Wordpress site OK to use with your methods? I think you said that's what you use, isn't it? I will be starting out with free themes.

          Should I try to make the site look as non-blog as possible, or should I go for the blog look?

          Thanks for your inspiration!
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          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          Hi Haruka, Thanks for your comments and feel free to ask any question! I will answer them to the best of my knowledge!

          OK, let's see if I can answer this question by taking an example. I've only attempted this twice, both were successful. But then Panda 2.2 killed one of those earlier this month. But I don't think it had anything to do with this strategy. This is going to be a long answer, here goes...

          I'm going to talk about the example that I started earlier this year, where I was more SEO mature in doing things. This was not the one affected by Panda OK. I'm going to pick a similar phrase so that I will be able to explain exactly what I did.

          The initial kw that I targeted was some thing like 'cordless camping lights'. The EMD was not available so I bought 'cordless camping lights reviews'. The title of my sticky post was something like 'cordless camping lights - best cordless electric camping lights review' and the URL was 'cordlesscampinglightsreviews.com/best-cordless-camping-lights'.

          The order of search volumes in descending order were something like this...
          camping lights
          cordless lights
          cordless camping lights
          electric camping lights
          cordless light review
          best camping light
          best light
          best electric lights
          best light review
          best camping light review

          I was afraid to target any of the high search volume 2 word phrases at the beginning, that's why I went for the 3 word 'cordless camping lights' as my theme kw. However, from experience I knew that the phrases with the highest commercial value were going to be the ones with 'best' and 'review' and that's why I targeted those in my sticky post. See how I strategically placed both cordless and electric in my sticky post title and url!

          Initially I only targeted my theme kw in my link building campaign. I might have built a few links with best and review kw, but the majority targeted my 3 word theme kw. Those links went to the homepage, sticky post and other posts. I also made sure that almost all of my inner posts had a hyperlink to the sticky post and/or the homepage with that anchor text. Once I started to rank well... may be in the top 3 pages, I increased the amount of best and review kw anchor text backlinks. When I do this, I almost always see a drop in rankings for the main theme kw.

          Then once I hit the top of the page 1 (I'm still #3 for this, Google shopping results and consumersearch are in front of me), that's when I started targeting the 2 word high traffic kw. Right now, I have many #1 positions for this site for long talk kw and I'm like #6 for 'cordless lights'. Tomorrow, I'll post an image showing my rankings if I can mange to conceal the exact domain name and search phrases.

          Will talk about the other site that Google Pandized tomorrow! Have a ton of work tonight!

          Hope that was what you asked.
          Chucky
          Hello Chucky,

          How have things been for you?

          Anyway thank you for your replies...! If memories serve me right my sites normally starts to rank in about 2 to 4 weeks - rank as in ranking within page 5 to 8 or something like that. To be honest, I really didn't bother checking my rankings (ever since my 3rd site) after I launched a site and start building them backlinks... And occasionally I do go up to page one in a matter of weeks for 'easy' niches.

          So, how's your experience with this?

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          By the way, when you are targetting higher search keywords (when your theme keyword stablized) - I assume you are:

          - Adding posts optimized with 'higher searches' kw
          - building external backlinks with these kw as anchor texts to both main page and posts
          - sticky pages remain for same keyword

          I hope I got this right?

          ===========

          ... and The Sticky Post - I supposed your sticky posts do link to other relevant keywords in other posts + non-threat external sites too right?

          Thank you...

          You haven't post the Pandalized site? I've been pretty eager you know... lol

          Haruka
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  • Profile picture of the author amarketing
    Hi Chucky, I've got another question.

    I'm reading along with your fist post as I'm setting up my Wordpress site. I'm going to try a 3 page site with this one instead of a 5 page and I won't be using any of the paid plug-ins, only the free ones, so this site won't strictly follow the rules you outlined (not saying they don't work, things just kind of "flowed" this way). However, I'll try to make each one closer to you specifications.

    Any way, I noticed you said this about interlinking pages
    § One in the first sentence with the 1ry kw pointing to the same post
    § One with the theme kw pointing to the same post (the way I see it, you’re telling Google “this post is about the 1ry kw, but it is also about the theme kw”)
    § One with the theme kw pointing to the main domain/homepage and/or different post (again you’re telling Google “that post is about the 2ry kw, but it is also about the theme kw”)
    § One with a 2ry kw pointing to the relevant post
    § This way at least 3-4 posts will have an outgoing link and an incoming link with the anchor text as ‘theme kw’
    Later, you said that you schedule your posts to go out over several days/weeks. So, my question is, how do you add links to posts that haven't been posted yet? Do you just wait until the articles are up and then edit the links in?

    Also, you said that you remove all of the "default links." What do you mean by this? When I go into my admin panel and go into the links category, I get these: Documentation
    Edit | Delete
    codex.wordpress.orgBlogroll
    Yes0 Plugins
    Edit | Delete
    wordpress.org/extend/pluginsBlogroll
    Yes0 Suggest Ideas
    Edit | Delete
    wordpress.org/extend/ideasBlogroll
    Yes0 Support Forum
    Edit | Delete
    wordpress.org/supportBlogroll
    Yes0 Themes
    Edit | Delete
    wordpress.org/extend/themesBlogroll
    Yes0 WordPress Blog
    Edit | Delete
    wordpress.org/newsBlogroll
    Yes0 WordPress Planet
    Edit | Delete
    planet.wordpress.org
    These don't seem to be visible from the "front-end" of the site. So, should I still delete them? What's the advantage?

    Thanks a lot for your help.
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    hmmm... lot of unanswered questions! Very uncharacteristic of Chuck... Hope you're OK Chcuky!
    I too would like to know what was different about the Pandalized website
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      Originally Posted by IMKid View Post

      hmmm... lot of unanswered questions! Very uncharacteristic of Chuck... Hope you're OK Chcuky!
      I too would like to know what was different about the Pandalized website
      LOL Chuck must have been busy developing some counter-panda strategies...
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      • Profile picture of the author Axiel
        Hi Chucky,

        So this thread has gotten me to get off my backend and do something. I've dabbled in and out of IM for years, and this has probably been some of the best information I've come across with 'no-strings' attached, so thank you for that!

        I have spent a few days doing some keyword & product research and have found what I think have high traffic and high commercial value keywords and matching domains as follows:

        EMD.org
        prefix1-EMD.com
        ...
        prefix5-EMD.com

        Where the prefixes are descriptive of additional types of the keyword and not like 'best', or 'the'.

        Since each of the additional .coms are based on long tail versions of the original keyword, my first question is would it be better to develop a site for each of the keywords, or work on building an authority type site developing articles for each of the additional keywords? Second, if doing a site for each keyword, should (or is it even wise) they be linked together? (Example: For more information on secondary keyword go to prefix1-EMD.com)

        Thanks again!
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        • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
          Hello Chucky. I don't know if you remember but I am the paramedic that contacted you back in May about getting started into IM. Well I took the step and and set up a wordpress blog which is a review site for amazon products. I hosted through hostmonster. I am not sure I have done everything correctly with regards to having everything set up because while my site is active, when I go into my google webmaster account I am getting 404 crawl errors and I am not sure that my site is being crawled. I am so new to this I am not sure how to proceed. I don't know if you would have the time or the interest to check over some things for me and tell me what you recommend. I had some coaching prior to the site being built but I would rather discuss the details in private. I am not sure that I can pm as I have 35 posts. If you have any time or interest I would greatly appreciate it if you could pm me with some way of speaking. If you cannot I completely understand. Thanks so much for the great information. Jimmy
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Hi everybody,

    Thanks for all the questions! Unfortunately I've been having a few family issues whole of last week and wasn't able to check the thread. It's not that I've abandoned it, will answer all of the questions Sunday night or Monday the latest central time.

    Thanks for understanding!
    Chucky
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    Chucky, just out of curiosity..do I need website with separate domain for separate niche everytime or will an umbrella website with exact matching sub-domains work as well?
    I'm asking this coz with with subdomains I can have exact matching keywords subdomains.
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  • Profile picture of the author amarketing
    Thank you so much for answering all my questions, Chcky. I'm sorry to hear that things are not going great in your private life, but I'm sure things will get better.

    I know you put your "relevant site" links in the footer, do you do this for each post, or only the footer of certain posts?

    Also, do you put your intra-site links in the footer as well, or are these part of the post?

    Thanks for all of the help you give everyone!
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    Where is footer entered. Cannot find it in thesis.
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      Originally Posted by akyyyy View Post

      Where is footer entered. Cannot find it in thesis.
      Will answer the other questions later.

      As for Thesis footer, it's not straightforward, check this out Tutorial: Widgetized “Fat” Footer | Thesis Theme Tools

      or search for something like 'fat footer thesis theme', there is also a guide inside DIY themes forum
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      • Profile picture of the author akyyyy
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        Will answer the other questions later.

        As for Thesis footer, it's not straightforward, check this out Tutorial: Widgetized “Fat” Footer | Thesis Theme Tools

        or search for something like 'fat footer thesis theme', there is also a guide inside DIY themes forum
        thanks for that link, seems complicated. I just took a look in Thesis Openhook menu and found a footer section, entered the footer that you use (with my domain of course) and it worked... will this way have the same effect that we're looking for?

        if you could also comment on the best way to add Amazon ads. Do you use a plugin (if so which one), or enter the code from amazon affiliate website manually into your webpage.

        thx
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    • Profile picture of the author akyyyy
      I'm sorry, the part about the footer is not clear, can you explain again pls?
      sorry for not being clear. i was just saying that i entered footer info in the thesis openhook section of WP and it seemed to have worked. i couldnt find the footer widget you were talking about.

      Thanks for the replies... will read them over and take your advice.

      any suggestion on writers/spinners?
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by akyyyy View Post

        sorry for not being clear. i was just saying that i entered footer info in the thesis openhook section of WP and it seemed to have worked. i couldnt find the footer widget you were talking about.

        Thanks for the replies... will read them over and take your advice.

        any suggestion on writers/spinners?
        I see what you mean... yeah looks like I made a mistake there. You won't get the footer widget unless you change the CSS and customfunctions.php files. Will go and edit there.

        But if it works directly dropping in thesis hooker that's fine, it's just that you won't be able to change color/size of font/background etc. But that doesn't matter for SEO purposes.

        As for writers, you have to advertise and find the good ones by trial and error. No shortcuts there
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        • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
          Hi Chucky. Well one of my product keywords has actually made it to the 10th position on page 1 and I actually had a sale from that page which yielded a $5.76 commission. I know that is not much but as a newbie its the first money that I have made online. I have an issue that I am not sure how to handle but its not for public view. Would it be OK if I pm you to see how you would deal with the problem. Thanks again for the help. Jimmy
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  • Profile picture of the author Roshan C
    Hey Chucky,

    Firstly - thanks a lot for the great contribution. Salute to you.

    I'm not sure if this question has been asked before or not - BUT - I've a site stuck at 5th/6th spot and its mainly monetized with Adsense.

    I'm sure you know that we can't make any good money before we are in TOP 3 - So what are you suggestions to get the site in top 3? I've got a lot of sites in top 10 - thats easy.. whats hard to do is get it to 1st spot. So what type of link building/or any other strategies do you use to rank higher?

    Thanks a lot in advance,
    Cheers!
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      Hello Chucky. I had to post again because to my surprise I found myself in the #1 position for one of my product keywords. Again, this is a surprise to me because I am so new to this and have such little computer background that it baffles me. This keyword shows about 250,000 results. I have primarily been building backlinks. I don't know how long it will last but I guess I will continue with what I have been doing. Your advise to take action has served me well because prior to viewing your posts I really wasn't doing anything proactive to see any results. Thanks again. Jimmy
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        Well, I guess the weekend had something to do with things because I found myself at #1 exact match with 250 results on Friday night and Saturday. On Sunday morning I found myself in the #1 position for broad match with 35,000 000 results. It was like that until late Sunday night. I find myself this morning in #9 position on first page with 35,000,000 results. I hope this is good but I seem to be bouncing around. Another question. if you don't mind. I received an email this morning stating that I had a new trackback on one of my posts that is awaiting my approval. It gives me the URL and the website. this also appears on my wordpress admin area waiting for my approval or dis-approval. I am not very familiar with this and do not want to approve something that might cause me problems. How should I handle this. Sorry, I am so new to this,I am probably asking things that I already should know. Thanks for your help. Jimmy
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  • Profile picture of the author filippot51
    Very very usefull all this thread.You build a listing on some of your websites?i have one site with 4 5 posts,with last post linking to vendor website(affiliate market) are those 2 different kind of sites? the sniper sites small with few posts ("phrase" 20000 searches,usually i am in good position after 5 6 days ) and the "classic" website with a post added every 2 weeks etc etc list building etc etc,are they 2 different methods of market?im sorta of lost and dont know what way to follow
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by Roshan C View Post

      Hey Chucky,

      Firstly - thanks a lot for the great contribution. Salute to you.

      I'm not sure if this question has been asked before or not - BUT - I've a site stuck at 5th/6th spot and its mainly monetized with Adsense.

      I'm sure you know that we can't make any good money before we are in TOP 3 - So what are you suggestions to get the site in top 3? I've got a lot of sites in top 10 - thats easy.. whats hard to do is get it to 1st spot. So what type of link building/or any other strategies do you use to rank higher?

      Thanks a lot in advance,
      Cheers!
      Hi Roshan,

      In my experience, this depends on what you have already done so far and how strong your competition is. For example, if you have used the UAW network over and over, however much you use that network, your rankings will not rise anymore. Once you begin to see this apparent 'tolerance' to link building, I would switch from UAW (cancel membership) to something else (e.g. Article Ranks -poor article distribution lately-; James Schramko's Traffic Jumbo (haven't used yet) etc.) I don't know if you have used BMR (build my rank). This network works for me whether I use it on a fresh site or on a site stuck like yours (even Post Panda 2.2).

      Have you done press releases before? have you done software submissions before? If not, they will help you in this situation. Also, it is necessary to do it consistently. Don't just do a single round of press release submissions, do a few rounds one after the next once a week for a few weeks. Similarly, have you done video distributions before? What type of backlinks have you built and what have you not? If you've already done a ton of bookmarks, I'd rather spend my time and money building links using a different method - e.g. press releases, software directories, video submissions, PDF submissions, RSS submissions (yahoo pipes to combine yours and others) etc. etc. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say here.

      I would keep away from mass article distributions (unless you can control speed of distribution and have very high unique rate) and mass profile link campaigns. However, I would use those two to strengthen my existing and/or new backlinks.

      Another school of thought is that building backlinks at an increasing pace (increasing link velocity) is necessary to come out of a stuck position like that. I personally have not done that deliberately, it may have happened without intention though.

      A couple of pieces of useful posts about 1 week apart couldn't hurt either to coincide with the link building campaign.

      Another thing is blog commenting on high PR pages. I'm not talking about mass commenting. Just a couple by yourself (non-outsourced) on non-auto-approval blogs would be very powerful even if they were no follow. A lot of people don't do this, but try a few comments like that few days apart on authority domains/pages and you will be pleasantly surprised!

      Hope you keep us posted on the results you get!
      Chucky

      Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

      Hello Chucky. I had to post again because to my surprise I found myself in the #1 position for one of my product keywords. Again, this is a surprise to me because I am so new to this and have such little computer background that it baffles me. This keyword shows about 250,000 results. I have primarily been building backlinks. I don't know how long it will last but I guess I will continue with what I have been doing. Your advise to take action has served me well because prior to viewing your posts I really wasn't doing anything proactive to see any results. Thanks again. Jimmy
      You're welcome!!

      Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

      Well, I guess the weekend had something to do with things because I found myself at #1 exact match with 250 results on Friday night and Saturday. On Sunday morning I found myself in the #1 position for broad match with 35,000 000 results. It was like that until late Sunday night. I find myself this morning in #9 position on first page with 35,000,000 results. I hope this is good but I seem to be bouncing around. Another question. if you don't mind. I received an email this morning stating that I had a new trackback on one of my posts that is awaiting my approval. It gives me the URL and the website. this also appears on my wordpress admin area waiting for my approval or dis-approval. I am not very familiar with this and do not want to approve something that might cause me problems. How should I handle this. Sorry, I am so new to this,I am probably asking things that I already should know. Thanks for your help. Jimmy
      You will get different search results if you're signed up to Google or not. Make sure you are signed out of Google (gmail etc.) when you're searching for your position. Scroogle is another good place to check your rankings. Rank checker from SEOBook is also good. You can put multiple related keywords (e.g. from Google adwords tool) in Rank Checker and it will give you the rankings for all those kw.

      If this was not the case, it should most likely be QDF (Quality deserves freshness). Fresh content is ranked better and then goes down and settles in its most suitable position.

      I don't personally approve trackbacks and I think that's the right thing to do. You just want to get links and not give out links!

      Originally Posted by filippot51 View Post

      Very very usefull all this thread.You build a listing on some of your websites?i have one site with 4 5 posts,with last post linking to vendor website(affiliate market) are those 2 different kind of sites? the sniper sites small with few posts ("phrase" 20000 searches,usually i am in good position after 5 6 days ) and the "classic" website with a post added every 2 weeks etc etc list building etc etc,are they 2 different methods of market?im sorta of lost and dont know what way to follow
      Will answer this one later, too sleepy, sorry!
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    Hey Chuck,
    Why use SEO SearchTerms Tagging 2 « WordPress Plugins and related topics plugin? Aren't you dupplicating efforts and straining your server slowing down pages? This coupled with SEOprresor which I had to deactivate or deal with 10 - 20 second page load times. Its been my experience a low bounce rate and page speed ranks better than backlinks. ANy thoughts?
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    • Profile picture of the author danols
      Wow!! Head explode!
      Not often you run into give away high quality content by a successful yet humble person. Thanks for this.
      Although you don't need it in business I wish you great success in life Chucky.

      I just started out in IM and am in learning stages. Put all your posts from this thread in a word document (155 pages!!) and believe this will be the foundation for my learning process. I will take a long difficult to read thread from a real life person like you over a glossy ebook from some wannabe any day.
      When you think back on this exercise you should realize how much high quality knowledge and value you created in random peoples IM businesses. Hope you get some life karma kudos for this.

      And by the way I have already taken action. Registered my first domain yesterday. Nothing too complicated or ambitious but I will use this as my 1st learning tool.

      Thanks again
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      • Profile picture of the author evaeyal
        Chucky,
        Wow!!! What an interesting thread!!!!
        Thank you so much for your information and your kindness to help others have success in the IM business.
        I have a few questions...I must go threw the 1st page again...and write down my questions...I will be back with the questions...
        Thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by filippot51 View Post

          Very very usefull all this thread.You build a listing on some of your websites?i have one site with 4 5 posts,with last post linking to vendor website(affiliate market) are those 2 different kind of sites? the sniper sites small with few posts ("phrase" 20000 searches,usually i am in good position after 5 6 days ) and the "classic" website with a post added every 2 weeks etc etc list building etc etc,are they 2 different methods of market?im sorta of lost and dont know what way to follow
          Hey, I'm sorry about the delayed reply!

          Unfortunately, I'm afraid I don't quite understand your question. Do you mind please repeating it in different words? No I do not build lists, I know I should!

          Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

          Yo chucky hate to sound so needy after all youve given, but any chance you can do a brief video on spinning? Just a few sentences would be great. I've read it 2 times and I cant visualize it.

          If quickly go through something like the resource box on video It will be greatly appreciated! Dont have to be a long video!

          Thank you for this.
          Sorry man, it's not going to happen for a while. I too have been meaning to do one, but time has not been favorable this year.

          Originally Posted by ShaLiam View Post

          Hey Chuck,
          Why use SEO SearchTerms Tagging 2 « WordPress Plugins and related topics plugin? Aren't you dupplicating efforts and straining your server slowing down pages? This coupled with SEOprresor which I had to deactivate or deal with 10 - 20 second page load times. Its been my experience a low bounce rate and page speed ranks better than backlinks. ANy thoughts?
          I certainly agree with you that the bounce rate and page speed have an influence on your rankings (although there are many warriors that wouldn't); but I don't know if they will make you rank 'better' than backlinks, especially for high competition phrases.

          I have been tracking page speed using Google's page speed firefox add on (together with FireBug). My sites typically have 85-90% (the best being 96% and the lowest ones being 67% and still ranking #1). I get 85-90% with both above plugins. I should take these two out and see if the speed increases anymore! Thanks for the tip!

          Anyways, I have to rethink using this plugin because I received an email from the plugin creator today mentioning the following

          Hi Chuck,
          Regarding the latest update of Google algorithm, known as Panda Update, I feel obliged to convey some important information to you.

          As you already know, Google Panda Update aims to remove the pages that are considered low-quality content from google search results.

          "Improve it or remove it. With Google's Panda Update, low-quality content can impact an entire domain, but removing these pages - or moving Them to a different domain - can help your rankings, " says Google's Michael Wyszomierski.

          And unfortunately, the search pages that are automatically created by SEO SearchTerms Tagging 2 plugin, as well as the WordPress tags pages, are considered as low-quality content.

          Therefore, I do not recommend to enable these two SEO SearchTerms Tagging 2 features:

          1. "Save popular search terms as post tags", and
          2. "Convert search terms into links to search page".

          All the other features are save, and not contradictory to Google Panda Update.

          In addition, to eliminate those pages from Google Index, you can add the following code into your site robots.txt file ( you can find it in the public_html folder ).
          User-agent: *
          Allow: /
          Disallow: /search/
          Disallow: /tags/
          For now, Google has not perfomed Google Panda Update into all of their local sites, but I guess it'll be soon.

          To make friends with Google Panda, always use high quality unique content, and strengthen the on-page SEO of those content in accordance with the keywords you target. Some people even said that the most important now is your on-page SEO, and not your backlinks (off page). For me, both is important, but I do believe that on-page SEO become more important then before.

          .......
          Good luck and success for you.

          Best Regards,

          Purwedi Kurniawan
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          So I too really have to REthink about using this plugin in the future.

          Originally Posted by danols View Post

          Wow!! Head explode!
          Not often you run into give away high quality content by a successful yet humble person. Thanks for this.
          Although you don't need it in business I wish you great success in life Chucky.

          I just started out in IM and am in learning stages. Put all your posts from this thread in a word document (155 pages!!) and believe this will be the foundation for my learning process. I will take a long difficult to read thread from a real life person like you over a glossy ebook from some wannabe any day.
          When you think back on this exercise you should realize how much high quality knowledge and value you created in random peoples IM businesses. Hope you get some life karma kudos for this.

          And by the way I have already taken action. Registered my first domain yesterday. Nothing too complicated or ambitious but I will use this as my 1st learning tool.

          Thanks again
          Thanks a lot! Those words really mean a lot to me!

          155 pages? Wow it's that long now? Didn't realize!

          Great to hear that you've taken action. By all means, use it as a learning tool, nothing teaches you better than all those mistakes you do at the beginning. Hopefully you've picked a winner and it will be more than a 'learning tool'. All the best to you and don't hesitate to ask your questions here!

          Originally Posted by evaeyal View Post

          Chucky,
          Wow!!! What an interesting thread!!!!
          Thank you so much for your information and your kindness to help others have success in the IM business.
          I have a few questions...I must go threw the 1st page again...and write down my questions...I will be back with the questions...
          Thanks!
          No worries! Questions are always welcome, I enjoy (and learn from) answering them! Good luck!
          Chucky
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          • Profile picture of the author evaeyal
            thanks Chucky!!!
            I will try to go threw it agian...only the first page
            You have a lot of good information!!! And I really want to make money from IM. I found out about IM on 25/5/09!!! And I since then I started to buy...any buy...any buy a lot of courses!!! I spent thousends on them! and then I found the WF forum this year...and I also started to buy from here...
            I was looking on your YouTube Videos on the KeyWord Reasearch. And they still don't work...are you going to fix that?
            Thank you very very much for your help!
            I am thinking if I sould buy MNF of not?!
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                  Originally Posted by evaeyal View Post

                  thanks Chucky!!!
                  I will try to go threw it agian...only the first page
                  You have a lot of good information!!! And I really want to make money from IM. I found out about IM on 25/5/09!!! And I since then I started to buy...any buy...any buy a lot of courses!!! I spent thousends on them! and then I found the WF forum this year...and I also started to buy from here...
                  I was looking on your YouTube Videos on the KeyWord Reasearch. And they still don't work...are you going to fix that?
                  Thank you very very much for your help!
                  I am thinking if I sould buy MNF of not?!
                  Well in that case, you probably have the knowledge to get started. How much action have you taken? How many websites have you made so far? What kind of rankings have you gotten so far? The information here will certainly help you polish up those figures. Stick to one system, that is very important!

                  This is the YouTube channel and the videos are in 'good working condition' the last time I checked. &#x202a;IMandSEO's Channel&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

                  MNF certainly helps! A good free option is Traffic Travis, I haven't used it, but I have heard a lot of good about its free version!

                  Originally Posted by NastyDevil View Post

                  It is a post which will stay on your homepage, it is done by using the options on the right hand side before publishing your post.

                  PS: I have began building my own small amazon website and will let you know how it turns out
                  Thank you for filling in. There is also a post I made earlier on the sticky post here
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      Hi Chucky
      I'm in the process of registering a domain for an info product I want to promote.
      The KW is xxxxxdiet but of course xxxxxdiet and xxxxx-diet is taken for all the TLDs but they are parked and not part of the competition.
      Would you go for xxxxxdiets.org or xxxxxdietinfo.com? Whats your view on plural versions of a domains that doesn't get many searches compared to the singular? And generally do you rather do a hyphen domain than a plural version?

      And a 2nd question. I then have three 3-word 2RY keywords that I want to target. Would you create a new domain & site for each of these or target them under the top domain?
      The site will only be around 3-4 pages and then redirect to seller page who will do the actual selling with a solid page so I am thinking that it should be better to try and grab one domain for each KW or is that a bit overambitious? For the 2RY KWs I can get TLDs for all of them.

      Thanks again for this thread. I am on my 2nd reading of it at the moment...
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        Originally Posted by danols View Post

        Hi Chucky
        I'm in the process of registering a domain for an info product I want to promote.
        The KW is xxxxxdiet but of course xxxxxdiet and xxxxx-diet is taken for all the TLDs but they are parked and not part of the competition.
        Would you go for xxxxxdiets.org or xxxxxdietinfo.com? Whats your view on plural versions of a domains that doesn't get many searches compared to the singular? And generally do you rather do a hyphen domain than a plural version?
        If I can weigh in here: I've just had a site enter the top ten for a couple of keyword phrases. It is an EMD.info SINGULAR. PLURAL is in the TITLE tag.

        Singular is 880 searches/month
        Plural is 720 searches/month

        (not much, but it's related to a high-paying CB offer)

        I simply backlinked for BOTH, and optimised the content likewise (plus for a number of other keywords at the same time).

        So to recap, I am around no. 7 or 8 for both the plural AND the singular. So I wouldn't sweat it too much - optimising for more than one keyword per page is a good idea anyway. I tend to do about 5-6 at the same time - it's more natural and also you can see which k/w is going to be the easiest to rank for when the rankings start moving.
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  • Profile picture of the author amarketing
    I just installed the plugins you recommended, however, in light of your and ShaLiam's posts, I think I will uninstall Search Terms Tagging 2.

    I have 2 more questions for you.

    First, does it affect your rankings if you add links to an article after it has been indexed?

    Also, you mentioned that you

    Then once these sites start ranking on page 1, that's when I go and do a product review, add real valuable content and add affiliate links.

    I pick the best selling products in that niche, try to pick a range of products that would cater to different buyers' needs (cheap to expensive, boys and girls, small and large, corded and cordless etc.) make a table comparing their main features and give pros and cons. Then I make this one my sticky post so that all the visitors to my homepage see it.

    But I do see that my sub-pages get many long tail kw traffic and I'm not making any sales from those visitors. On a few sites, I have gone on and added the sentence "For a review of the best 'my product keyword', visit our homepage on mykeyword.com" in large bold font to the top of all the other non-homepage posts.
    Does it affect the ranking of the pages when you add content to an already ranking page like "For a review go to my homepage."?

    Also, does adding a stick post affect the rankings?

    Thanks for clearing this up.
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    Hey chucky, thanks so much for all your tips. I just started an EMD site targeting a keyword that gets 4400 exact searches/month and the first page contains mostly authority sites that are not very well optimized for the keyword. It's been 3 days since I registered the domain and it's been indexed by Google but hasn't been ranked yet. I'm currently working on building backlinks by commenting on relevant blogs. Are there some other ways you would recommend for building links?

    Also, for someone using MNF for keyword research, what SOC level would you recommend for a newbie?
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    Do you have any price limitation when promoting amazon products ?
    as you know amazon commission is 7% , that's why i saw a lot of ppl recommending not to promote product lower than 100$
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    First of all sorry for the late response. Deliberately kept away from WF as I was tied down with some other work.

    Originally Posted by regZ View Post

    Hey Chucky I was wondering if you recieved the PM I sent you,

    Thank you,
    regZ
    I receive like 5 PMs/day and sometimes if I couldn't log in for several days, I have like 20 PMs and I have no option but to delete them all. I'm afraid I cannot answer all PMs I get. I may have deleted yours too, if you bring it up on the thread of course I'll try to answer to the best of my knowledge. Hope you understand!

    Originally Posted by ShaLiam View Post

    Thanks Chuck, I thought SEO SearchTerms Tagging 2 was the best pluging ever 8 months ago then took it off all my sites, it causes too many 404 errors and duplicate content. I gave up on back links and concentrated on load speed and page quality. I compressed and minified all my sites so they load super fast, made sure site structure was easy to navigate by installing link trees in admin area, made sure the site map and robots.txt were in order and all this resulted in an under 20% bounce rates, much higher time on site and returning visitor stats. This alone has increased my ranking and my traffic 10 fold, far surpassing previous (quality) backlink stratigies. Funny most of my sites with page one ranking are a 0 or 1 PR with google, my pr 4 and 5 sites always struggle for rank (all same niche). So page speed, quality, and structure seem to override backlinks. I think if you can get 2 or 3 quality links to a page or catagory to get it indexed and spend the rest of your time on quality-optimized-copy, a site will out perform a plr dripfeed with 150 spun articles pointing to it. Love to hear from anyone else with like or opposing experience.
    I have never gotten any 404 errors as such, not sure about duplicate content though. I haven't seen any messages on Google WM tools though (about duplicate content).

    Page speed is something I've also started to work on recently. I use PageSpeed and FireBug firefox addons to guage speeds. My new sites typically have about 84-88 and a couple have about 93+ speeds (out of 100). I also use a few database optimizer, Java script compressor, CSS compressor kind of WP plugins to do that? Is that what you do as well? Would love to hear more about it?

    WOW 20% bounce rate? That's unheard of!

    Link trees in admin area? Never heard about them, would love to hear if you have the time!

    As for few high quality vs mass low quality backlinks, 100% agreed!

    Thanks for the share and would love to hear more if you have the time!
    Chucky

    Originally Posted by danols View Post

    Hi Chucky
    I'm in the process of registering a domain for an info product I want to promote.
    The KW is xxxxxdiet but of course xxxxxdiet and xxxxx-diet is taken for all the TLDs but they are parked and not part of the competition.
    Would you go for xxxxxdiets.org or xxxxxdietinfo.com? Whats your view on plural versions of a domains that doesn't get many searches compared to the singular? And generally do you rather do a hyphen domain than a plural version?

    And a 2nd question. I then have three 3-word 2RY keywords that I want to target. Would you create a new domain & site for each of these or target them under the top domain?
    The site will only be around 3-4 pages and then redirect to seller page who will do the actual selling with a solid page so I am thinking that it should be better to try and grab one domain for each KW or is that a bit overambitious? For the 2RY KWs I can get TLDs for all of them.

    Thanks again for this thread. I am on my 2nd reading of it at the moment...
    Hope my reply is not too late, sorry about that!

    Since the hyphenated domains are gone, I would go for the plural instead of the dietinfo.com. I think it also depends on the term you're targeting. If the term is like 'south beach diet' and your domain is 'south beach diets' would it make sense?

    However, if there are other related search phrases that you can target by adding a suffix to the end, I would go for that. e.g. xxxxdietreviews (or diets review; diet-review/s). When I add a suffix, I always make sure that it has an SEO value, not just a random word. That way you will ultimately be able to target xxxx diet, xxx diet review/s as well as xxx diets.

    Even if you don't have the plural in your domain, you can target it by having the plural kw in your title and meta description (like Mark says below).

    Hope that helps! Also please read this post I made earlier (the answer I gave Haruka)

    Originally Posted by markowe View Post

    If I can weigh in here: I've just had a site enter the top ten for a couple of keyword phrases. It is an EMD.info SINGULAR. PLURAL is in the TITLE tag.

    Singular is 880 searches/month
    Plural is 720 searches/month

    (not much, but it's related to a high-paying CB offer)

    I simply backlinked for BOTH, and optimised the content likewise (plus for a number of other keywords at the same time).

    So to recap, I am around no. 7 or 8 for both the plural AND the singular. So I wouldn't sweat it too much - optimising for more than one keyword per page is a good idea anyway. I tend to do about 5-6 at the same time - it's more natural and also you can see which k/w is going to be the easiest to rank for when the rankings start moving.
    Yup agreed! I too do that. However I wait till the site is a little 'mature' to target multiple kw. Sometimes it automatically happens, sometimes it doesn't. In this post I talk a few details. I've seen sites going down (in rankings) for the primary kw, if you build backlinks for a 2ry kw if the site is very new. I've seen this multiple times. But once the site is a little mature, it's a different story!

    What exactly do you mean by 'optimize the post for several keywords'? Just having the keyword in content or also emphasizing, having them in H tags, hyperlinks etc as well?

    I do all of above except emphasis (bold, italic, underline). I actually didn't realize I was 'optimizing' for those keywords. I use 2ry keywords in my content, H tags and anchor text (internal links) for LSI purposes. But I guess that helps a post to be 'optimized' for 2ry keywords as well

    Originally Posted by cjcjohn70 View Post

    Chucky,

    Do you offer any personal coaching or mentoring program?
    If only I had the time.... sorry man!

    Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

    I just installed the plugins you recommended, however, in light of your and ShaLiam's posts, I think I will uninstall Search Terms Tagging 2.

    I have 2 more questions for you.

    First, does it affect your rankings if you add links to an article after it has been indexed?

    Also, you mentioned that you



    Does it affect the ranking of the pages when you add content to an already ranking page like "For a review go to my homepage."?

    Also, does adding a stick post affect the rankings?

    Thanks for clearing this up.
    Nope! Never noticed rankings go down as such.

    Sticky post - I believe it has a positive effect compared to a dynamic blog type homepage. Especially for minisites like ours. For larger sites getting gazillions of backlinks telling the search engines that this page is about x, y and z (regardless of the content) it probably wouldn't matter (just my opinion- have never owned such a site, so I wouldn't know)

    Originally Posted by raxr View Post

    Hey chucky, thanks so much for all your tips. I just started an EMD site targeting a keyword that gets 4400 exact searches/month and the first page contains mostly authority sites that are not very well optimized for the keyword. It's been 3 days since I registered the domain and it's been indexed by Google but hasn't been ranked yet. I'm currently working on building backlinks by commenting on relevant blogs. Are there some other ways you would recommend for building links?

    Also, for someone using MNF for keyword research, what SOC level would you recommend for a newbie?
    I typically start backlinking with socialADR bookmarking. Then I too do high PR blog posts in the form of BMR (Build My Rank). When you're commenting on relevant blogs make sure those are not spammed ones; in my experience, the benefits are minimal if those pages have like 500 outgoing links. Just my experience. Articles, press releases (free ones) are also good. Be steady and consistent!!

    As for SOC, I think any newbie can do 100 and below. However, you shouldn't judge the level of competition only by the SOC. You should also look at the top 10 sites manually (as you have already done). I feel that SOC is kind of overrated. I'm currently on the 3rd page for a term with an SOC of 20,000 (within 1 month of launching the site)!!

    Originally Posted by mahmoud747 View Post

    Do you have any price limitation when promoting amazon products ?
    as you know amazon commission is 7% , that's why i saw a lot of ppl recommending not to promote product lower than 100$
    That's absolutely true. I didn't pay attention to this at the beginning at all. But now I do. The more expensive the better. The only thing with cheap products is, if you can sell a significant number of them, your commission will go up even for the high ticket items. Hope that makes sense!
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    For minisite, less than 10 posts, should I use only optimized sticky post or put all articles on my homepage?
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      Originally Posted by leaf13 View Post

      For minisite, less than 10 posts, should I use only optimized sticky post or put all articles on my homepage?
      Up until very recently, I only had 1 post on the homepage - 1 sticky post!

      But recently I've been experimenting with having 2-4 sticky posts on the homepage and that seems to work equally fine. I personally would not have all 10 posts on my homepage!
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      Originally Posted by Brad Seid View Post

      Great Thread Chucky....

      Congrats on the SEO success!
      Originally Posted by Nick Kastman View Post

      Very helpful info. More success to you .. and to the rest of us! Looking forward to reading your next post.
      Originally Posted by chrisen View Post

      Wow, I can't believe this thread is still going so strong! I remember seeing this about 2-3 months ago and it inspiring me to buy my own domain and hosting. I used a good bit of Chucky's tips and others I pulled from around this forum. I've been making some pretty good progress. Thanks Chucky!
      Originally Posted by cnk718 View Post

      This information was very helpful! Kudos to you my friend
      Originally Posted by HarryPothead View Post

      Undoubtedly among the best thread I've read on WF. Hats Off to you Chucky!!
      Thank you guys! Those words really mean a lot to me!
      @ chrisen, great to here that this thread was able to get you started! Keep us posted!

      Originally Posted by HarryPothead View Post

      Hey Chucky..sorry I've only read first 3 pages of the thread so far.
      Phewww...A LOT OF INFO man..really!!
      Chucky you touched upon something about sharing your excel checklist.
      I was only wondering If you've shared the excel with WF members yet or not.
      Sorry if you've discussed it in the latter pages..I've been on page 3 and I've not seen you talking about it.
      If you have pls share wid me as well..
      Kindly let me know if you need my email for this.

      Thanks again and keep writing...Cheeers..God Bless You
      Hey! No I didn't share them ultimately! That's because they were not as complete as I would have liked them to be.. sorry! I should change that text.... if I can find the place

      Feel free to ask any question you may come across! (on the thread-not PM )
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    Chucky I was thinking...I can use your keyword research and competition analysis strategies for the Adsense website as well.
    Let's say I found a keyword phrase with decent EXACT traffic (400-500).
    The EMD, let's say, is not available. Is it wise to create a domain like "EMDReviews(dot)com" and utilize this domain for the adsense by providing reviews for the product in concern (EMD)?
    Will this "EMDReviews" domain affect the SEO of the domain for the EMD keyword...i mean by adding extra "Reviews" in the domain name..will it affect the SEO quality of the domain?
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  • Profile picture of the author HarryPothead
    Chucky one more thing..you've mentioned A LOT of time in the thread that picking the right market is THE MOST CRUCIAL STEP in the IM.
    How do we make sure that the market IS right.
    Will the adequate keyword research for the niche, low competition and decent traffic suggests that the market IS right or is there any other factor that plays more role in this??

    If I've chosen a niche with a product (amazon, cb or cj), for the chosen keyword I've domain name available, the traffic is also acceptable (300-500 exact/month), the competition is also moderate - Does all the above parameter suggests that the MARKET IS RIGHT??
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    Chucky, which WP theme would you recommend for a site with amazon links/widgets. I like the one you used on your kids karaoke machines site, which theme was that?
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      Hi Chucky. I saw where you posted on Proreview. What do you recommend for Amazon site building? Thanks Jimmy
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        Originally Posted by HarryPothead View Post

        Chucky I was thinking...I can use your keyword research and competition analysis strategies for the Adsense website as well.
        Let's say I found a keyword phrase with decent EXACT traffic (400-500).
        The EMD, let's say, is not available. Is it wise to create a domain like "EMDReviews(dot)com" and utilize this domain for the adsense by providing reviews for the product in concern (EMD)?
        Will this "EMDReviews" domain affect the SEO of the domain for the EMD keyword...i mean by adding extra "Reviews" in the domain name..will it affect the SEO quality of the domain?
        Adding an extra word definitely makes it a little harder to rank in my op. The EMDs rank much easier and faster!

        Originally Posted by HarryPothead View Post

        Chucky one more thing..you've mentioned A LOT of time in the thread that picking the right market is THE MOST CRUCIAL STEP in the IM.
        How do we make sure that the market IS right.
        Will the adequate keyword research for the niche, low competition and decent traffic suggests that the market IS right or is there any other factor that plays more role in this??

        If I've chosen a niche with a product (amazon, cb or cj), for the chosen keyword I've domain name available, the traffic is also acceptable (300-500 exact/month), the competition is also moderate - Does all the above parameter suggests that the MARKET IS RIGHT??
        NOPE! If the competition is moderate/low, you particularly have to be careful. Have you uncovered a great market or have IMers before you passed it because of its low commercial value?

        Think about it this way. Is someone searching for a "25000w self propelling industrial generator with 20-30 horsepower" (I just made that up) or "backache relief tips" is more likely to buy a product? How many adwords ads do you get on the SERP? What are the top ranking sites about? Free information or are all 10 of them promoting products as affiliates (digital/physical). Do these products have high gravity (CB) or high numbers of customer reviews (amazon). Is this a product people really NEED? Does it relieve unbearable pain? Does it solve a huge problem? Or is it a scammy product like 'lose 30 pounds in 1 week, get 6 pack abs in 2 weeks'

        I believe this will get you thinking and in the right pathway!

        Originally Posted by Mreese601@gmail.com View Post

        Thanks for all of the helpful information! Once you find the right niche it really is easy to make money online.
        yup, once you find the right niche you go laterally, vertically, diagonally and every other way and infiltrate the niche!

        Originally Posted by raxr View Post

        Chucky, which WP theme would you recommend for a site with amazon links/widgets. I like the one you used on your kids karaoke machines site, which theme was that?
        That site is not mine! Was a random site I picked as an example!

        For amazon sites I've only used Thesis so far. I use the FCK Deans plugin to make tables and put my products in there. But recently I've discontinued using this because it seems to be incompatible with a paid plugin that I started using - EasyAzon.

        Search for 'tables' in WP add new plugin section or use FCK Dean's plugin

        Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

        Hi Chucky. I saw where you posted on Proreview. What do you recommend for Amazon site building? Thanks Jimmy
        I still only use Thesis, haven't had time to test the above theme yet.
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          Originally Posted by HarryPothead
          Chucky I was thinking...I can use your keyword research and competition analysis strategies for the Adsense website as well.
          Let's say I found a keyword phrase with decent EXACT traffic (400-500).
          The EMD, let's say, is not available. Is it wise to create a domain like "EMDReviews(dot)com" and utilize this domain for the adsense by providing reviews for the product in concern (EMD)?
          Will this "EMDReviews" domain affect the SEO of the domain for the EMD keyword...i mean by adding extra "Reviews" in the domain name..will it affect the SEO quality of the domain?


          Think about it this way. Is someone searching for a "25000w self propelling industrial generator with 20-30 horsepower" (I just made that up) or "backache relief tips" is more likely to buy a product? How many adwords ads do you get on the SERP? What are the top ranking sites about? Free information or are all 10 of them promoting products as affiliates (digital/physical). Do these products have high gravity (CB) or high numbers of customer reviews (amazon). Is this a product people really NEED? Does it relieve unbearable pain? Does it solve a huge problem? Or is it a scammy product like 'lose 30 pounds in 1 week, get 6 pack abs in 2 weeks'

          I believe this will get you thinking and in the right pathway!


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          Thanks Chucky. I'll keep it in mind while doing the niche research.
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    Chucky, would you recommend promoting products less than $500 since people are very unlikely to buy really expensive products online, even though they would generate higher commissions? Also, what's the average conversion rate for amazon affiliate links?
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      Originally Posted by raxr View Post

      Chucky, would you recommend promoting products less than $500 since people are very unlikely to buy really expensive products online, even though they would generate higher commissions? Also, what's the average conversion rate for amazon affiliate links?
      Just to chime in here, never was a big amazon guy until a client ask I build her a review blog, she focuses on her niche and writes a lot of book reviews. Those reviews for $4.50 to $34.99 books get her great commissions on higher end products because of amazons referral cookie. we have commissions for microwaves, barbaque, software, and other higher end stuff so focus on what you know and love when promoting amazon, the big ticket stuff will come.
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  • Profile picture of the author onlinemarketer23
    Hye chucky,

    I am really excited about all you have written on here.. as many have already said through this post.. you really deserve everything good in your life.. this a great inspiring story that surely motivate us all to get a success like you are getting.. if anyone asks for motivation.. I get them to read on this thread..(-: .. thanks a lot for your info.. I wish you the very best..

    Cheers to all..
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by raxr View Post

      Chucky, would you recommend promoting products less than $500 since people are very unlikely to buy really expensive products online, even though they would generate higher commissions? Also, what's the average conversion rate for amazon affiliate links?
      hmm... I wouldn't say so. Depends on what you target. If you try to target a person who is looking for a $100 product and you try to sell him/her a $500 product, it won't work. But there are plenty of people searching for products that are $500 and above. Do you think people search for things like 6 Carat Diamond Ring - Rings - Compare Prices, Reviews and Buy at Nextag - Price - Review How many searches do they get? May be not 1000s, but would you rather sell 20 items at $10 commission/piece or 5 items at $50/piece? In my opinion, the higher the price the better, provided that there is a sufficient search volume!

      Conversion rate? Never checked! Will see if I can check it and let you know soon!

      Originally Posted by onlinemarketer23 View Post

      Hye chucky,

      I am really excited about all you have written on here.. as many have already said through this post.. you really deserve everything good in your life.. this a great inspiring story that surely motivate us all to get a success like you are getting.. if anyone asks for motivation.. I get them to read on this thread..(-: .. thanks a lot for your info.. I wish you the very best..

      Cheers to all..
      Thanks very much! Those words mean a lot to me! Wish you also the very best with your IM business!
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    • Profile picture of the author chrisen
      Hey Chucky,

      Sorry if I missed your post about this, but I was wondering if your site that disappeared ever came back? I had something similar happen to one of my sites. It was gone for about a month (page 55+ for all keywords) and then came back a few spots higher. It was probably just dancing, but it coincided with a number of others talking about their sites dropping or disappearing on June 6th-7th.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by xxxJamesxxx View Post

      Just read your post and I gotta say this quality content... Should of been a WSO

      James
      Thanks James, those words mean a lot to me!

      Originally Posted by chrisen View Post

      Hey Chucky,

      Sorry if I missed your post about this, but I was wondering if your site that disappeared ever came back? I had something similar happen to one of my sites. It was gone for about a month (page 55+ for all keywords) and then came back a few spots higher. It was probably just dancing, but it coincided with a number of others talking about their sites dropping or disappearing on June 6th-7th.
      Hey,

      I kept calling it one of my best sites but when I went inside and looked at all 40 + posts, I realized that the first 20+ posts were really crappy. That's because I didn't know what I was doing 3-4 years ago. The content that I added during the last 1-1.5 years was good and I didn't remember what I did before that. SO I basically deleted, merged, redirected, rewrote etc. etc. many posts and brought it down to 27 posts. Now it ranks for some low search volume long tail keywords with no monetary value as high as #1. However, doesn't rank for the high traffic keywords it used to. I haven't done any link building either. Just waiting out a little bit and will start building links again. This one actually disappeared on the June 6th-7th, when yours came back! (Panda 2.2) I also had a couple of Ezine/Articlebase articles disappearing with 1st Panda. But they were not big earners and I didn't even bother to try and resurrect those. But this site was my baby and I won't give up on it

      Originally Posted by latrice17 View Post

      Thanks for the excellent content, Chucky. I see that you mentioned that you shot videos as well, but I am having a hard time locating the rest of them. It says you have 7 videos, but I only see 5.
      Here is the YouTube channel &#x202a;IMandSEO's Channel&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

      However please note that some of the videos there are 'not right'. There was something wrong with them and I redid the videos but never removed the older ones and now I don't remember which ones are bad and which ones are good. I see there are 10 videos there, but only 7 are probably meant to be 'good'. Hope you will be able to filter out the bad ones
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      • Profile picture of the author chrisen
        Well, at least it is starting to come back for you. Sorry I wasn't clear in my post. Mine actually disappeared on June 6th-7th as well and then came back on about July 9th-10th. I thought I had been slapped for something. I even did a request for reconsideration with Google. They said there had been no action taken against my site, but funnily (is that a word?) enough it started moving after I received their mail. Various posts started moving to about page 30ish for about a week. It seemed to be rotating the posts and different pages for my main keyword while my homepage stayed on page 55+ for that main keyword. Then on about the 9th of July everything came back even better than it was the month previous. All keywords were and have been looking good. I'm just waiting for the hammer to drop again lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
        @chucky - I just had exactly the same problem with my 4 year old baby site
        I got really sulky after it disappeared to a bunch of emds after Panda

        Recently I checked the content and realised it was mostly rubbish

        Luckily I still have some top spots in G and after reading one of your recent posts I got a reality check, accepted what I knew was true and began a serious re-write. Which would be fine if I knew then what I knew now. Instead of a nice tight little sniper it's a huge mess which needs serious work.

        Anyway, thanks as usual for more great work and thanks for sharing.

        @outwest
        re anchor text footer links. Think I just suffered the same thing. I began with a few links in my footer with hardly a thought of seo sniping and the result was great. I even got some main pages added as links as part of my listing on Google. (dunno what they call that, when stuff like home, contact us, store, reviews etc get added as links within you link if you know what I mean.)

        Bottom line. Seeing a possible slightly off-white hat tactic I went a bit crazy and stuffed said footer bar with keywords. Result - One gently slapped website.

        Conclusion, use wisely and naturally, balance keywords (even LT phrases) with non-kw links so it looks natural - add contact us, about us, home etc

        As a side thought, and as there is so much free info kindly offered by our host perhaps we could all chip in and add a tip, trick or tool we find useful as affiliates.

        Happy to kick things off with this one - Blogger High SEO plug in for WP. Like a free SEOPressor, cracking free seo tool
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    Chucky, which tools would you recommend for creating backlinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    On Backlinks anchor text not sure if this long thread spent too much time on it but I did see it mentioned somewhere

    a lot of people on some forums are reporting that Panda(google/whatever) does not like too many anchor text backlinks coming in with exact match kws or even combinations of kws in the anchor text

    example
    Big scissors is the kw

    backlink anchor text is
    big scissors
    big scissors site
    buy big scissors
    big scissors review
    etc etc

    that apparently used to be fine and look natural to Google however lots of people have reported (on other backlinking forums ) that they have dropped a lot by panda and went in and started doing backlinks such as

    clickhere
    www.mysite.com
    HERE IS THE SITE

    etc etc
    random text that someone linking to your site might use if they have no intention or knowledge of your keyword backlinking methods

    The ones that have done this SOME have reported excellent results and much higher serps

    apparently Google now frowns on too much kw anchor text. What that percentage is I dont know but its much more strict than it used to be and yes they will downgrade you for it

    now whether you should go in and change the anchor text to old backlinks that I dont know
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    • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
      Hi Chucky. What, if any recommendations do you have for backlinking? Specifically are there any tools that would benefit me in finding high pr backlinks and posting them/ I also saw where a WF member selling 10 pr-7 edu backlinks. Could you give your opinion on the benefit of something like this. Thanks so much for your time.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
    Chucky,

    I have no problem making profitable websites but I am having a hard time ranking them even on the first page to make any profits.... =( any advice or tips to get some effective links?
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  • Profile picture of the author HarryPothead
    Hi Chucky,

    Recently I checked out Elite Niche Research (which incidently you mentioned in your thread..have u checked it btw as you'd mentioned in ur thread that you will?).

    The basic principle behind ENR is to promote products that are searched by their NAME (means they're already sought out for). This leads to choosing a keyword that contains the product name.

    Now as per your method the website URL need to be EXACT same as the theme keyword.
    My question is : WON'T IT INVITE LEGAL ACTION against the webmaster if he/she chooses website URL based on the product name.
    IF NOT then how do one follow the ENR method?
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by chrisen View Post

      Well, at least it is starting to come back for you. Sorry I wasn't clear in my post. Mine actually disappeared on June 6th-7th as well and then came back on about July 9th-10th. I thought I had been slapped for something. I even did a request for reconsideration with Google. They said there had been no action taken against my site, but funnily (is that a word?) enough it started moving after I received their mail. Various posts started moving to about page 30ish for about a week. It seemed to be rotating the posts and different pages for my main keyword while my homepage stayed on page 55+ for that main keyword. Then on about the 9th of July everything came back even better than it was the month previous. All keywords were and have been looking good. I'm just waiting for the hammer to drop again lol.
      Oh I see, my bad! So it disappeared for both of us on the same day!

      I've also been thinking about submitting that reconsideration request, should work on that this weekend. Thanks for bringing that up! Well lets hope the hammer won't drop in again EVER!! Think positive

      Originally Posted by raxr View Post

      Chucky, which tools would you recommend for creating backlinks?
      So many tools depending on what kind of links.

      Right now I'm using SENUE X for web 2.0 blogs, bookmarks and RSS. Pad Submitter for software submissions and AMR for article submissions. Those are the only tools I'm using right now I think. Ah almost forgot, Scrapebox for many functions like checking links, scraping PR, building 2nd/3rd tier backlinks etc. etc.

      I do however use different services for press releases, blog commenting, blog networks (BMR), Social ADR for bookmarking etc. Even

      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      On Backlinks anchor text not sure if this long thread spent too much time on it but I did see it mentioned somewhere

      a lot of people on some forums are reporting that Panda(google/whatever) does not like too many anchor text backlinks coming in with exact match kws or even combinations of kws in the anchor text

      example
      Big scissors is the kw

      backlink anchor text is
      big scissors
      big scissors site
      buy big scissors
      big scissors review
      etc etc

      that apparently used to be fine and look natural to Google however lots of people have reported (on other backlinking forums ) that they have dropped a lot by panda and went in and started doing backlinks such as

      clickhere
      www.mysite.com
      HERE IS THE SITE

      etc etc
      random text that someone linking to your site might use if they have no intention or knowledge of your keyword backlinking methods

      The ones that have done this SOME have reported excellent results and much higher serps

      apparently Google now frowns on too much kw anchor text. What that percentage is I dont know but its much more strict than it used to be and yes they will downgrade you for it

      now whether you should go in and change the anchor text to old backlinks that I dont know
      Yup, I've also read that but I haven't done any experiments to prove/disprove that. I don't use a lot of anchor text variation other than the theme kw, and primary keywords. I do use the domain name though (mysite.com). I try not to use Click here at all. In fact I used to build links with 90% + using my main theme kw and only 5-10% were 2ry keywords. Now I've slightly changed that and don't see a particular positive or negative effect.

      But a recent WSO that I bought said the complete opposite thing. http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...1-39-days.html

      I can't go into details but you will see that the guy doesn't vary his on page or off page seo at all. Looks very 'unnatural' but it has worked for him. The particular site is still number 1 as I write this.

      Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

      Hi Chucky. What, if any recommendations do you have for backlinking? Specifically are there any tools that would benefit me in finding high pr backlinks and posting them/ I also saw where a WF member selling 10 pr-7 edu backlinks. Could you give your opinion on the benefit of something like this. Thanks so much for your time.
      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      Chucky,

      I have no problem making profitable websites but I am having a hard time ranking them even on the first page to make any profits.... =( any advice or tips to get some effective links?
      $Jimmy and MaineCoon,
      After Panda, I've stopped using profile links and mass blog commenting as tier 1 links. I'm finding that BMR is even better than it used to be. The other powerful free thing that nobody does is making valuable comments on nofollow blogs with your name as your anchor text. Do just 1/day and see the effects you get! As I said earlier, have you covered all the different types of diverse links? Videos? Software submissions? Press releases? PDF submissions?

      Getting backlinks of the same type and from the same IP addresses won't work e.g. multiple posts on the same blog, same web 2.0 properties from SENUKE over and over

      Have you built links to your 1st tier links? Or done something to get them indexed? Made RSS feeds of them and submitted to RSS directories? Made RSS mashups with content from other sources?

      I'm sure I covered a lot of things people regularly miss

      Nice to see you back MaineCoon,

      Originally Posted by PeckhamPirate View Post

      @chucky - I just had exactly the same problem with my 4 year old baby site
      I got really sulky after it disappeared to a bunch of emds after Panda

      Recently I checked the content and realised it was mostly rubbish

      Luckily I still have some top spots in G and after reading one of your recent posts I got a reality check, accepted what I knew was true and began a serious re-write. Which would be fine if I knew then what I knew now. Instead of a nice tight little sniper it's a huge mess which needs serious work.

      Anyway, thanks as usual for more great work and thanks for sharing.
      Tell me about it! Ya I haven't untangled it completely either. I brought the 40 posts down to something like 27 I think, but there is still a lot of room for improvement. After I do all that (may be this weekend), I'm going to submit it for reconsideration. What have I got to lose?

      I've been seeing some improved rankings for some random phrases, may be it was after I cleaned it up a bit. Not sure because I didn't check rankings regularly! Could also be that Panda 2.3 gave it a bit of a boost.


      @outwest
      re anchor text footer links. Think I just suffered the same thing. I began with a few links in my footer with hardly a thought of seo sniping and the result was great. I even got some main pages added as links as part of my listing on Google. (dunno what they call that, when stuff like home, contact us, store, reviews etc get added as links within you link if you know what I mean.)

      Bottom line. Seeing a possible slightly off-white hat tactic I went a bit crazy and stuffed said footer bar with keywords. Result - One gently slapped website.

      Conclusion, use wisely and naturally, balance keywords (even LT phrases) with non-kw links so it looks natural - add contact us, about us, home etc

      As a side thought, and as there is so much free info kindly offered by our host perhaps we could all chip in and add a tip, trick or tool we find useful as affiliates.

      Happy to kick things off with this one - Blogger High SEO plug in for WP. Like a free SEOPressor, cracking free seo tool
      Thanks for sharing that. I've never used more than 4 links to my pages (in the footer); however I've seen many sites with tons of footer links (internal and external). The example that I've referred to many times Wall Tapestries and Wall Decor Hangings from The Tapestry Standard is a great example.

      Originally Posted by HarryPothead View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      Recently I checked out Elite Niche Research (which incidently you mentioned in your thread..have u checked it btw as you'd mentioned in ur thread that you will?).

      The basic principle behind ENR is to promote products that are searched by their NAME (means they're already sought out for). This leads to choosing a keyword that contains the product name.

      Now as per your method the website URL need to be EXACT same as the theme keyword.
      My question is : WON'T IT INVITE LEGAL ACTION against the webmaster if he/she chooses website URL based on the product name.
      IF NOT then how do one follow the ENR method?
      Yup I did go through the bulk of the videos (with Fast Forward )

      Not really! I wouldn't say they ask you to use the product name ALWAYS. The main take home massage I took from there was DISREGARD traffic volume. A search phrase with HIGH COMMERCIAL INTENT is GREAT even if you get a trickle of traffic. And a search phrase with high commercial intent is not always one with the product name.

      I have product name domains. Once I registered domain names with LEGO, John Deere and Barbie (yeah, I know what was I thinking?). I got a letter from lawyers of LEGO asking me to handover the domain which I did. I had not made the John Deere website by then and let it expire. I still have the barbie site and it must have made $2000+ over the last 2-3 years. If I get a letter from a lawyer, I will happily give it up.

      Here's a small tip: if you see many other affiliates using a product name in their domain name, that company is probably lenient (check Barbie) and you may get away with using that name in your domain name (at least until they change policies ). But if you don't see it (check LEGO and JOHN DEERE) you're probably better off not using them.

      These are just physical products that I covered. I also use click back product names in my domains. But I don't use the EMD, I use EMDsuffix. Check this one out tinnitus miracle - Google Search

      I'm not in there, but you see a lot of affiliates there right? And yes these guys probably don't get as much traffic as for 'treatment of tinnitus' but they would surely get a better conversion rate (principle of ENR).

      For those who haven't bought ENR, there is a lot more to it than I've given here. They talk about a lot of techniques to find these golden keywords. Andrew Hanssen in fact came up with another product recently, if I had the time to look at it, I would have bought that too.

      Nope I didn't say I use EMD always! And EMD is not only for product name keywords!
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      • Profile picture of the author MaineCoon
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        and MaineCoon,
        After Panda, I've stopped using profile links and mass blog commenting as tier 1 links. I'm finding that BMR is even better than it used to be. The other powerful free thing that nobody does is making valuable comments on nofollow blogs with your name as your anchor text. Do just 1/day and see the effects you get! As I said earlier, have you covered all the different types of diverse links? Videos? Software submissions? Press releases? PDF submissions?

        Getting backlinks of the same type and from the same IP addresses won't work e.g. multiple posts on the same blog, same web 2.0 properties from SENUKE over and over

        Have you built links to your 1st tier links? Or done something to get them indexed? Made RSS feeds of them and submitted to RSS directories? Made RSS mashups with content from other sources?

        I'm sure I covered a lot of things people regularly miss

        Nice to see you back MaineCoon,
        Good to hear from an expect again! I am going to try BMR along with SenukeX, I think this is really going to bring up my rank. I have been around, I 've been busy! and a bit lazy at the same time, I really need to focus! I have more than 10 sites set up so all I need it's focus on building links to them.

        Btw, do you write your own articles when posting in BMR?
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    NOTE: I have since read back through what you wrote about optimising for a single keyword, and how people like Terry Kyle advocate that, so I know roughly how you stand on this, this is just another take.

    Chucky, we were talking last week about optimising for both plural and singular forms etc. In the meantime I landed myself up in hospital after a mountain-biking accident (d'oh!) so couldn't reply.

    But in brief, you are probably familiar with the idea of optimising a page for multiple keywords, which gives you a better shot at ranking for SOMETHING, better backlink diversity and possibly better on-page SEO due to the LSI principle.

    So I have a site: onlinecomputercourse.info (not the real name, but similar - .info too - pop that in your pipe and smoke it )

    So I optimised the home page for basically several high-volume, very similar search terms:

    online computer course
    online computer courses
    on line computer courses


    Plus a couple of longer-tail related ones:

    take computer course online
    take computing courses online


    and a couple of really long-tail ones like:

    where can I learn computing online

    Or whatever.

    I have singular in the domain name, but plural in the title tag, and then a mix throughout the page.

    Then my backlinking strategy involves using ALL of these for anchor text, which is really easy using AMR, and other blog networks, where you can just spin the text.

    This is getting me good results, I feel, in terms of stable rankings, but specifically it illustrates what I was saying about not sweating TOO much about the EMD, and whether it's plural or not. You can rank both, and probably SHOULD. Hey, we used to rank sites WITHOUT an EMD once upon a time...

    P.S. Lately I have been starting new sites by literally taking the first 10 or so closely related keywords (in descending order of search volume) as my starting point, and NOT focusing exclusively on the main EMD keyword.

    So I would get:

    red widgets
    best red widgets
    buy red widgets

    But not, for example, blue widgets, probably.

    But, you say, aren't you going to create separate pages for "best red widgets"? Well, yes, eventually, but first off I just want to see what phrases I am starting to rank for out of the gate. It will be easy to outrank my own home page for that phrase later, with a decent article on a subpage. Will see how I get on with that, but first results are very promising, especially for lower competition/longer-tail keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author jbento
      Hi Chucky

      Very good work what you are doing with this thread man. I just want to add my voice to all of those that already thanked you for this, and again state that this thread gives more and better information than 90% of the products and WSOs I bought in the last 2 years.

      I've been watching the IM scenario from a long time ago, you can see I'm a member of this forum since 2008, and I've been reading some free reports and participating in some learning and coaching programs since 2005.

      But I never did anything systematic, so of course I never made any money, because consistency, persistence and time are 3 fundamental ingredients to have any kind of success in internet marketing.

      Last year I finally decided to take some action and I started building some Amazon review sites and I started learning SEO. And I can tell you after the last 8 months I consider myself not a newbie regarding SEO.

      In fact, last Christmas, I was able to rank a site in the first position in Google for a keyword with 102,000,000 competitors. That's true, this is not to brag, just to tell you that I know my way in SEO. Not a PRO yet but I have good knowledge.

      Also I have some other sites in position 2 and 3 and 4 in Google, I have sites ranking in first page for more than 1 keyword (3 keywords in fact...).

      I'm telling this because I want to say that, given the experience I have in SEO, the information you give here for free is by far much better than the information in a lot of courses, reports and coaching programs I paid for.

      So, NEWBIES, listen to Chucky and read his stuff carefully and put in action what he tells you. That's my advice from the heart.

      Now a few words of caution.

      I want to emphasize that keyword research is CRITICAL. I have some sites with very high rank in Google and after months of work to get those sites in the top of SERPs, I have visitors but no sales! Numbers are important during keyword research, like # of local searches and # of competitors and # of backlinks for the main competitors, but also look AROUND. See if people buy the product, investigate what type of sites are selling the same or similar products, try to grasp the "feeling" that the product is going to sell online. Ending with a site in position #1 and have hundreds of freebie seekers or information seekers visiting your site every day it's just not motivating.

      Pay attention to what you are selling and how you present the product to your visitors. The monetizing strategy and the selling approach play a BIG role in conversions. My #1 site last Christmas was a SEO success and a sales disaster. The routine for the weeks before Christmas was: checking #1 or #2 position in Google and see 0 orders in Amazon. Damn frustrating! See what other people are doing to sell. Learn with merchant sites. Try to find supper affiliates sites and see how do they present the offers to visitors.

      Finally, one of the best things to do is to anticipate trends or best sellers. But try to anticipate what kind of sites will compete with you when the trend converts. I have a site that was ranking quite nice for a new product in electronics. Of course when I started the SEO for this site the competition was a joke because I started as soon as the product was released to the market. 4 months later, all the big merchants and specialized review sites are competing with me. And you see suddenly that sites with 10, 12 and 15 years old released pages fully optimized for your keyword and those pages have, in a matter of 2-3 months, 35,000 or more backlinks! Of course my site went to the "hyperspace" and I never saw it again.

      So, to finish this already long comment, SEO is VERY important but common sense and observation also play a big role in Internet Marketing.

      Again, congratulations and thank you for this wonderful thread, Chucky. All the best.

      Cheers

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    Thanks for sharing your info about your earnings Chucky. It was like reading an eBook on how you made it.
    This thread will surely provide information for those who are still in the process of learning and hanging around the IM world (including myself).
    Thanks a lot man, and always keep a positive outlook in life.
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    Chucky, do you make most of your income from amazon, commission junction, CPA, or something else? Also, do you prefer using MNF or Market Samurai for kw research? Which one is more accurate?
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      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      NOTE: I have since read back through what you wrote about optimising for a single keyword, and how people like Terry Kyle advocate that, so I know roughly how you stand on this, this is just another take.

      Chucky, we were talking last week about optimising for both plural and singular forms etc. In the meantime I landed myself up in hospital after a mountain-biking accident (d'oh!) so couldn't reply.

      But in brief, you are probably familiar with the idea of optimising a page for multiple keywords, which gives you a better shot at ranking for SOMETHING, better backlink diversity and possibly better on-page SEO due to the LSI principle.

      So I have a site: onlinecomputercourse.info (not the real name, but similar - .info too - pop that in your pipe and smoke it )

      So I optimised the home page for basically several high-volume, very similar search terms:

      online computer course
      online computer courses
      on line computer courses


      Plus a couple of longer-tail related ones:

      take computer course online
      take computing courses online


      and a couple of really long-tail ones like:

      where can I learn computing online

      Or whatever.

      I have singular in the domain name, but plural in the title tag, and then a mix throughout the page.

      Then my backlinking strategy involves using ALL of these for anchor text, which is really easy using AMR, and other blog networks, where you can just spin the text.

      This is getting me good results, I feel, in terms of stable rankings, but specifically it illustrates what I was saying about not sweating TOO much about the EMD, and whether it's plural or not. You can rank both, and probably SHOULD. Hey, we used to rank sites WITHOUT an EMD once upon a time...

      P.S. Lately I have been starting new sites by literally taking the first 10 or so closely related keywords (in descending order of search volume) as my starting point, and NOT focusing exclusively on the main EMD keyword.

      So I would get:

      red widgets
      best red widgets
      buy red widgets

      But not, for example, blue widgets, probably.

      But, you say, aren't you going to create separate pages for "best red widgets"? Well, yes, eventually, but first off I just want to see what phrases I am starting to rank for out of the gate. It will be easy to outrank my own home page for that phrase later, with a decent article on a subpage. Will see how I get on with that, but first results are very promising, especially for lower competition/longer-tail keywords.
      Hey,
      Yes I know Terry Kyle said that; but that was last year or even before that and as we know Google evolves. I'm not as strict as I used to be. Now I am even commenting on high PR high trust blogs with a completely unrelated anchor text (e.g. Nancy, Tom, Kevin etc.) and seeing very good results. I guess if you have 500 anchor text links saying my site is about 'online computer courses', it wouldn't harm to have a dozen Nancy, Tom or Kevin anchor texts!

      I completely agree on optimizing a single page (homepage or inner page) for multiple keywords. But I don't go overboard with it. For example, I won't have all those keywords bolded, italicized, underlined, hyperlinked and in H tags all at once. To me, that doesn't look nice. If you're writing naturally, you're bound to have those related keywords (e.g. online computer course, online computer courses, on line computer courses) in your text. I will HAVE them, but I don't necessarily OPTIMIZE the page for multiple keywords!

      Yup, agree on the LTKW, they start to rank really quickly!

      Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

      Good to hear from an expect again! I am going to try BMR along with SenukeX, I think this is really going to bring up my rank. I have been around, I 've been busy! and a bit lazy at the same time, I really need to focus! I have more than 10 sites set up so all I need it's focus on building links to them.

      Btw, do you write your own articles when posting in BMR?
      No! I outsource them to Odesk @ 50 cents/post! I would go to EzineArticles, find a bunch of articles in my niche, copy down titles and 150 word blurbs, paste on a word doc and send them to these girls to be rewritten. And yeah, I do post them to BMR, but you have the option of getting your outsourcers to post them there as well.

      Originally Posted by jbento View Post

      Hi Chucky

      Very good work what you are doing with this thread man. I just want to add my voice to all of those that already thanked you for this, and again state that this thread gives more and better information than 90% of the products and WSOs I bought in the last 2 years.

      I've been watching the IM scenario from a long time ago, you can see I'm a member of this forum since 2008, and I've been reading some free reports and participating in some learning and coaching programs since 2005.

      But I never did anything systematic, so of course I never made any money, because consistency, persistence and time are 3 fundamental ingredients to have any kind of success in internet marketing.

      Last year I finally decided to take some action and I started building some Amazon review sites and I started learning SEO. And I can tell you after the last 8 months I consider myself not a newbie regarding SEO.

      In fact, last Christmas, I was able to rank a site in the first position in Google for a keyword with 102,000,000 competitors. That's true, this is not to brag, just to tell you that I know my way in SEO. Not a PRO yet but I have good knowledge.

      Also I have some other sites in position 2 and 3 and 4 in Google, I have sites ranking in first page for more than 1 keyword (3 keywords in fact...).

      I'm telling this because I want to say that, given the experience I have in SEO, the information you give here for free is by far much better than the information in a lot of courses, reports and coaching programs I paid for.

      So, NEWBIES, listen to Chucky and read his stuff carefully and put in action what he tells you. That's my advice from the heart.

      Now a few words of caution.

      I want to emphasize that keyword research is CRITICAL. I have some sites with very high rank in Google and after months of work to get those sites in the top of SERPs, I have visitors but no sales! Numbers are important during keyword research, like # of local searches and # of competitors and # of backlinks for the main competitors, but also look AROUND. See if people buy the product, investigate what type of sites are selling the same or similar products, try to grasp the "feeling" that the product is going to sell online. Ending with a site in position #1 and have hundreds of freebie seekers or information seekers visiting your site every day it's just not motivating.

      Pay attention to what you are selling and how you present the product to your visitors. The monetizing strategy and the selling approach play a BIG role in conversions. My #1 site last Christmas was a SEO success and a sales disaster. The routine for the weeks before Christmas was: checking #1 or #2 position in Google and see 0 orders in Amazon. Damn frustrating! See what other people are doing to sell. Learn with merchant sites. Try to find supper affiliates sites and see how do they present the offers to visitors.

      Finally, one of the best things to do is to anticipate trends or best sellers. But try to anticipate what kind of sites will compete with you when the trend converts. I have a site that was ranking quite nice for a new product in electronics. Of course when I started the SEO for this site the competition was a joke because I started as soon as the product was released to the market. 4 months later, all the big merchants and specialized review sites are competing with me. And you see suddenly that sites with 10, 12 and 15 years old released pages fully optimized for your keyword and those pages have, in a matter of 2-3 months, 35,000 or more backlinks! Of course my site went to the "hyperspace" and I never saw it again.

      So, to finish this already long comment, SEO is VERY important but common sense and observation also play a big role in Internet Marketing.

      Again, congratulations and thank you for this wonderful thread, Chucky. All the best.

      Cheers

      Jorge
      Thanks a bunch for those words man, they really mean a lot to me.

      As for that #1 site, been there done that mistake! That's why I stress the importance of picking the right niche so much.

      As for the 'new product' and then getting outranked by big guys - the exact scenario hasn't happened to me, but something similar has. I was ranking #1 for a seasonal term (gardening related product) throughout winter of 2010 and was pretty confident. Spring comes and suddenly I get beaten by a double listing of consumersearch.com and sears.com and have to spend another month to get back my place and by the time, the peak sales season has already passed

      I guess you won't learn unless you actually do it and experience it right?

      Thanks again Jorge!

      Originally Posted by kingshad View Post

      Great info. But your post is sounding like a sales page.
      Thanks man! I guess I'm a good copywriter! Care to hire me to write your sales pages?
      Originally Posted by raxr View Post

      Chucky, do you make most of your income from amazon, commission junction, CPA, or something else? Also, do you prefer using MNF or Market Samurai for kw research? Which one is more accurate?
      On a regular month, its CJ!
      Haven't used MS enough to give an accurate comparison!
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  • Profile picture of the author longhorn
    Chacky,
    I have one forgotten website with almost zero traffic which is several years old. I just re-designed it using some of your helpful info.
    It has database with several thousands of affiliate products in addition to my own unique articles (~15-20 articles). Products are featured inside articles and on separate pages. Links to the merchant website are done through PHP redirect script which I did myself (as the whole website with MySql Db and PHP).
    I just noticed that Google has indexed almost 16 thousands my redirection pages with all description coming from the merchant product pages although they all show my domain like this: mydomain.com/redirect_page.php?pr=12345
    If you click on them you do not see my site because PHP redirects you right to the product pages on the merchant's website.
    I think that this is not a good thing because visitors don't see my website and google may think that I have copied merchant's content from their product pages.
    DO you think that I need to tell google not to index my redirect page at all in my robots.txt file?... but I have some commissions from the visitors that click on these links...
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    • Profile picture of the author KaiWei
      Hi Chunky,

      Thanks for sharing, I learned a lot from your thread here and had some inspiration that this is possible.

      I have a problem recently, spent $383.58 on facebook ads, and another $700 on Adwords on previous attempts on other products, and did not get a single sale.

      I asked around recently, and got feedback that my recent $297 health product test is too expensive for Facebook audience and Facebook is not exactly a good place to advertise landing pages, since the audience is probably goofing around not looking for a solution.

      My objective is to test if a product has the commercial intent first, as you said, before devoting time to creating all the content to sell it.

      Have you managed to test drive a Clickbank product on Adwords?

      Do you straightaway bring your Adwords audience to a selling page, or do you bring them to your info site to readup?

      Further to my previous question...if you use your Adwords to bring your audience to your site to read up (that means creating all the content first), how will you effectively determine if your product already has the commercial intent?

      I have blown quite an amount of $$$...will be great if you can give some advice...
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      • Profile picture of the author RayW
        Originally Posted by KaiWei View Post

        Hi Chunky,

        Thanks for sharing, I learned a lot from your thread here and had some inspiration that this is possible.

        I have a problem recently, spent $383.58 on facebook ads, and another $700 on Adwords on previous attempts on other products, and did not get a single sale.

        I asked around recently, and got feedback that my recent $297 health product test is too expensive for Facebook audience and Facebook is not exactly a good place to advertise landing pages, since the audience is probably goofing around not looking for a solution.

        My objective is to test if a product has the commercial intent first, as you said, before devoting time to creating all the content to sell it.

        Have you managed to test drive a Clickbank product on Adwords?

        Do you straightaway bring your Adwords audience to a selling page, or do you bring them to your info site to readup?

        Further to my previous question...if you use your Adwords to bring your audience to your site to read up (that means creating all the content first), how will you effectively determine if your product already has the commercial intent?

        I have blown quite an amount of $$$...will be great if you can give some advice...
        The best way to see if a keyword has commercial intent is to search for it on google and see if there are lots of ads. If there are, that means there's a lot of advertisers who have bid for the keyword, which means people who search for the keyword are probably willing to spend money.
        Another way is to use the google keyword tool. If you see the green competition bar completely full or close, that means there are a lot of advertisers bidding for that keyword, which means people who are searching for the keyword are more likely to spend money.
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  • Profile picture of the author MontelloMarketing
    Chucky,

    Gotta say it all looks like a good plan... EXCEPT Day 7. I've been doing this a while now and in the end, when trying to build an authority site... everyone could do themselves a huge favor and stay away from most on page SEO.

    Often kills authority... and always kills sales.

    In the end if it doesn't convert, page rank means nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    Chucky, I have a few questions for you:

    a) how long does it usually take to get an application approved on CJ? Should you establish your site a little before applying?

    b) how long does it usually take for one of your sites to show up in the rankings?

    c) when looking for CJ or CB products to promote, do you do the keyword research first or find which product to promote first?

    d) do you recommend using product names as domains?

    e) Suppose my keyword is "best turquoise widgets". If the sites on the first page are home pages of authority sites about just widgets with no on-page optimization for "best turquoise widgets", would that be beatable?

    Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

    I personally take on sites that have up to 2000 links if their on page optimization is not good. The final decision is not made only on the number of backlinks. I also look at the SOC from MNF and the on page SEO of ranking pages.!
    f) Do you mean 2000 links to the domain or to the actual webpage that's ranking?


    Sorry about all the questions, hope i'm not annoying you.

    Originally Posted by MaineCoon View Post

    Chucky,

    I got an e-mail from someone wants to buy my 1st site that just got to #2-#3 spot.... I haven't reply it to yet... what do you think? This site had made me 1.20 total from 2 sales when I was at #7. I am on #2-#3 since yesterday and I haven't seen any sales made.

    I got an message from my affiliate manager, from the private network that I told you guys about. He told me I made my first sale! COMMISSION = $32.25! He told me he will increase my commission rate if I put a link to the website which I did. So I should be getting COMMISSION = $45.14.

    Imagine... $45.14 x 100 sales.... = $4514

    Btw, I am on the 1 page for this site (This is my 4th site) but only at #8 spot. Imagine if I am #1........ $
    Congrats Mainecoon! May I ask, how do you look for CB products to promote and keywords to research? Are you using product name keywords?
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    • Profile picture of the author DEUTSCHWULF
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by longhorn View Post

        Chacky,
        I have one forgotten website with almost zero traffic which is several years old. I just re-designed it using some of your helpful info.
        It has database with several thousands of affiliate products in addition to my own unique articles (~15-20 articles). Products are featured inside articles and on separate pages. Links to the merchant website are done through PHP redirect script which I did myself (as the whole website with MySql Db and PHP).
        I just noticed that Google has indexed almost 16 thousands my redirection pages with all description coming from the merchant product pages although they all show my domain like this: mydomain.com/redirect_page.php?pr=12345
        If you click on them you do not see my site because PHP redirects you right to the product pages on the merchant's website.
        I think that this is not a good thing because visitors don't see my website and google may think that I have copied merchant's content from their product pages.
        DO you think that I need to tell google not to index my redirect page at all in my robots.txt file?... but I have some commissions from the visitors that click on these links...
        I am sorry, this is totally beyond the scope of my knowledge. If you open a new thread with this question, there will be some other knowledgeable warriors willing to help you!
        Thanks for understanding my ignorance!

        Originally Posted by KaiWei View Post

        Hi Chunky,

        Thanks for sharing, I learned a lot from your thread here and had some inspiration that this is possible.

        I have a problem recently, spent $383.58 on facebook ads, and another $700 on Adwords on previous attempts on other products, and did not get a single sale.

        I asked around recently, and got feedback that my recent $297 health product test is too expensive for Facebook audience and Facebook is not exactly a good place to advertise landing pages, since the audience is probably goofing around not looking for a solution.

        My objective is to test if a product has the commercial intent first, as you said, before devoting time to creating all the content to sell it.

        Have you managed to test drive a Clickbank product on Adwords?

        Do you straightaway bring your Adwords audience to a selling page, or do you bring them to your info site to readup?

        Further to my previous question...if you use your Adwords to bring your audience to your site to read up (that means creating all the content first), how will you effectively determine if your product already has the commercial intent?

        I have blown quite an amount of $$$...will be great if you can give some advice...
        No I'm really incompetent when it comes to adwords or any other form of paid traffic. Have tried a couple of times, but didn't achieve anything to write home about!

        In addition to the ones RAXR mention below, you can look at the gravity of ClickBank products. If there is a high gravity, the chances are it's a hot product. The only instance that I know of where you can be mislead by gravity is if it's a product launch.

        On Amazon, you can look at customer reviews and the star value (3.5 stars or 4.5 stars and how many reviews).

        There used to be a 'commercial intent tool' from Microsoft Audience Intelligence: Microsoft adCenter Labs I'm not sure it works anymore. But you can try, and the above may be the wrong link.

        Another one is you can put this product name in Google Keyword tool and see how many people search for it and related kw. product name review, product name discount, where to buy product name etc. etc. If there are 100s of searches for these phrases too, the chances are that it's a top selling product with good commercial intent.

        Also, does it solve a problem? alleviate physical or emotional pain? fulfill a passion? Is there free information available on the topic?

        Hope that helps!

        Originally Posted by raxr View Post

        The best way to see if a keyword has commercial intent is to search for it on google and see if there are lots of ads. If there are, that means there's a lot of advertisers who have bid for the keyword, which means people who search for the keyword are probably willing to spend money.
        Another way is to use the google keyword tool. If you see the green competition bar completely full or close, that means there are a lot of advertisers bidding for that keyword, which means people who are searching for the keyword are more likely to spend money.
        Absolutely! Thanks!

        Originally Posted by Karlis View Post

        Somehow I feel in love with you
        Thank you! Hopefully you will convert the energy from that love to surpass the goals I achieved in 2010!

        Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing View Post

        Chucky,

        Gotta say it all looks like a good plan... EXCEPT Day 7. I've been doing this a while now and in the end, when trying to build an authority site... everyone could do themselves a huge favor and stay away from most on page SEO.

        Often kills authority... and always kills sales.

        In the end if it doesn't convert, page rank means nothing.
        Hey,

        Thanks for sharing your experience. I've never built a true authority site, although I've always wanted to. I can totally see where you're coming from. I guess if you keep writing the same kw on all 1000 pages over and over that will look pretty spammy!

        Will keep that in mind when I build that authority site!

        Kills sales - yes I can see that as well. Recently I built a site where I'm competing with CNET. I have all these kw in my sub-headings etc. and CNET has none of it. I do try my best to NOT sound spammish with my kw rich sub-headings etc. But without them, I won't even get to where I am now; CNET can optimize only their title tag and get ranked. But my sites won't unless I do this on page stuff in spite of the possible shortcomings they can potentially bring about.

        However, if you use your words smartly, you can completely avoid or minimize loss of sales... I think!

        Thanks again!
        Chucky

        Originally Posted by raxr View Post

        Chucky, I have a few questions for you:

        a) how long does it usually take to get an application approved on CJ? Should you establish your site a little before applying?
        I think it's automatic. I think my site was very fresh when I applied. Once you are inside CJ, you have to apply to individual advertisers to promote their products. Just because you're approved by CJ, doesn't mean you can promote all their products.

        b) how long does it usually take for one of your sites to show up in the rankings?
        Have hit 1st page within as short as 2 weeks. But that depends obviously on the competition and the kw research you did. I think on average I rank on the top 10 pages within a month.
        Recently I hit page 1 for a term with an SOC of 19,000+ within about 4-6 weeks. That was because of an authority link I got. But now I'm back on page 2, about #16.

        c) when looking for CJ or CB products to promote, do you do the keyword research first or find which product to promote first?
        sometimes the former, sometimes the latter

        d) do you recommend using product names as domains?
        As long as it's not illegal!

        e) Suppose my keyword is "best turquoise widgets". If the sites on the first page are home pages of authority sites about just widgets with no on-page optimization for "best turquoise widgets", would that be beatable?
        Will depend on many factors, but I would think generally yes!

        f) Do you mean 2000 links to the domain or to the actual webpage that's ranking?
        If it was the domain, people can never beat Amazon.com


        Sorry about all the questions, hope i'm not annoying you.
        You've probably asked the most questions during the past couple of months, so you should achieve the most success. You will ANNOY me if you're one of those people that hyperanalyse everything and only ask questions but don't take action. Hopefully you're not that kind and will post your ranking/earning success soon

        Originally Posted by ultraffiliation View Post

        Hey all,

        I just wanted to make my first post on here a 'thank you'

        I tried to get into affiliate marketing a few years ago, and failed miserably. At the time I don't think I was in the position, nor had the skills to do so.

        Fast forward to now; I've been working as an internet marketer for a while for a private company with quite a bit of success. I've had time to get my processes ironed out a bit, and the other day I stumbled on Warrior Forum.

        Needless to say, I ended up in this post, and it's given me hope again. Self-employment is my ultimate goal, and Chucky; you've done an amazing job of helping to put potential IM's, including myself, on the right track.

        Thanks very much for your time and effort here, and I very much look forward to future posts.

        That said, I launched my first affiliate site this past weekend using tips and tricks from this post as well as others. I'm incorporating my skills in CSS, and trying to make my sites as informative and interesting for the user as possible.

        I'm very optimistic. I think I may have aimed a bit high in this first experiment; shooting for a KW with 33,000 local searches. If it fails, I have a few fall-backs, but I'm very excited for this new opportunity.

        Also, thanks everyone for your comments and discussion in this thread; it really helps us affiliate marketing n00bs.

        I'll report back on how I'm doing as my site gets a little time under it's belt. Thanks again!
        Hey,

        Great to hear you've taken action buddy! Well there are enough phrases with high search volume and low competition. Being a local kw, hopefully yours is one of those. Is the 33K broad or exact? Are there Google places results on top of the regular organic results? Are you trying to rank on the regular organic results or Google places?

        Besides, you can beat any competition if you put the time and effort. The question is would you rather put that effort on something that would give you many times the ROI?

        It's people like you that make my time and effort worthwhile!
        Thanks again!
        Chucky
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        • Profile picture of the author DEUTSCHWULF
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          Great to hear you've taken action buddy! Well there are enough phrases with high search volume and low competition. Being a local kw, hopefully yours is one of those. Is the 33K broad or exact? Are there Google places results on top of the regular organic results? Are you trying to rank on the regular organic results or Google places?

          Besides, you can beat any competition if you put the time and effort. The question is would you rather put that effort on something that would give you many times the ROI?

          It's people like you that make my time and effort worthwhile!
          Thanks again!
          Chucky
          Competition on the keyword is surprisingly low, considering it seems pretty marketable. 33k is exact. No Google Places on top; just all organic love. It looks like the only page following an effective SEO-targeted build is another affiliate site (and it appears to have weak backlinking), and I'm confident in mine as providing more well-optimized, relevant content.

          I'm still trying to figure out a followup off-site process that works for me, as I cannot afford to invest in paid tools at this time.

          I'm not going to sit on this site until it produces results either; since I'm so high on motivation right now I'm going to take my time and identify another 2-4 potentials and get working on those sites as well.

          Anyways, thanks again for the great information. It really means a lot that there are people out there willing to put the time and effort in to help people on their career paths. I only hope I'm in that same position sometime in the future.

          Regards!
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        • Profile picture of the author GowebMkt
          Hi Chucky,

          Thanks for all this great info!! (:

          Are you still considering using the WP review theme seen here?

          http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ime-offer.html

          Are you available for creating an Amazon review blog to your specs for me?

          Id be glad to do some of the work....I can easily install WP and plugins.

          Thanks!

          Bret
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          • Profile picture of the author Chucky
            Originally Posted by ultraffiliation View Post

            Competition on the keyword is surprisingly low, considering it seems pretty marketable. 33k is exact. No Google Places on top; just all organic love. It looks like the only page following an effective SEO-targeted build is another affiliate site (and it appears to have weak backlinking), and I'm confident in mine as providing more well-optimized, relevant content.

            I'm still trying to figure out a followup off-site process that works for me, as I cannot afford to invest in paid tools at this time.

            I'm not going to sit on this site until it produces results either; since I'm so high on motivation right now I'm going to take my time and identify another 2-4 potentials and get working on those sites as well.

            Anyways, thanks again for the great information. It really means a lot that there are people out there willing to put the time and effort in to help people on their career paths. I only hope I'm in that same position sometime in the future.

            Regards!
            Sounds like you're sitting on a goldmine, provided it's a phrase with high commercial intent! It's definitely a good idea to start on other websites, something that I didn't do when I was starting up! Good luck and keep us posted!

            Originally Posted by GowebMkt View Post

            Hi Chucky,

            Thanks for all this great info!! (:

            Are you still considering using the WP review theme seen here?

            http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ime-offer.html

            Are you available for creating an Amazon review blog to your specs for me?

            Id be glad to do some of the work....I can easily install WP and plugins.

            Thanks!

            Bret
            Hi Bret,

            I did buy the theme and put it on an existing website. But I didn't get to tweak it yet.
            As for creating a review blog, I'm afraid I won't have the time for quite sometime.
            I'll be happy to answer any question if you bring them up here.
            Chucky
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        • Profile picture of the author RayW
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          As long as it's not illegal!
          Almost every product name domain I find, it's trademarked. Any tips on how to find non-trademarked product domain names?
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          • Profile picture of the author Chucky
            Originally Posted by GowebMkt View Post

            I appreciate the support Chucky! (:

            Have you tried that CPV traffic source yet as seen here:

            http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...e-package.html
            I'm embarrassed to admit that I've bought quite a few CPV, media buys type of WSOs including this one in the last few weeks that I have not even read a word of! I honestly want to learn such traffic generation methods before Christmas, imagine if I could make this kind of $ with SEO traffic, what kind of $ will I be able to make during Christmas/thanksgiving with media buys/CPV? Many times I presume because traffic would be HUGE! But I've been busy with non-IM work last few months

            Originally Posted by raxr View Post

            Almost every product name domain I find, it's trademarked. Any tips on how to find non-trademarked product domain names?
            I didn't find any trademarks on this one Reverse Osteoporosis - 7 Secrets to Reverse Osteoporosis I may be wrong! There are plenty of those out there! I just went to CB Marketplace and found that within 30 seconds
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            • Profile picture of the author RayW
              Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

              I didn't find any trademarks on this one Reverse Osteoporosis - 7 Secrets to Reverse Osteoporosis I may be wrong! There are plenty of those out there! I just went to CB Marketplace and found that within 30 seconds
              Ah I was looking mainly on amazon products, didn't think about CB... But the product name for the particular product you mentioned ("7 secrets to reverse osteoporosis") isn't searched for at all, so getting an EMD wouldn't be worth it...
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              • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                Originally Posted by raxr View Post

                Ah I was looking mainly on amazon products, didn't think about CB... But the product name for the particular product you mentioned ("7 secrets to reverse osteoporosis") isn't searched for at all, so getting an EMD wouldn't be worth it...
                You expect me to share the high traffic ones with you?

                There's plenty of CPA and CB offers and even possibly physical products. You just have to be smart! For example, there is a Barbie doll house called 3 story dream house. I'm sure people search for it with and without barbie and there's no stopping you from registering '3 story dream house'. I don't think that would be a trademark. There's plenty like that if you look around and be creative!
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    ugh almost every CB product name EMD is already taken by the site selling the product itself... I think I'll switch back to amazon... the example you mentioned gave me some ideas.
    By the way Chucky, I was wondering -- how many amazon sites did you have up during black friday of last year to earn you $2500?
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by raxr View Post

      ugh almost every CB product name EMD is already taken by the site selling the product itself... I think I'll switch back to amazon... the example you mentioned gave me some ideas.
      By the way Chucky, I was wondering -- how many amazon sites did you have up during black friday of last year to earn you $2500?
      I had altogether like 10 money making sites during those 2 months, but the bulk of the sales were from 2 sites: Proves the validity of the 80:20 rule!
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      • Profile picture of the author RayW
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        I had altogether like 10 money making sites during those 2 months, but the bulk of the sales were from 2 sites: Proves the validity of the 80:20 rule!
        You mean 10 amazon money making sites or 10 money making sites in general? In that case, you're telling me you made $2500 on black friday from just 2 amazon sites??? How much traffic were they getting?
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          • Profile picture of the author Chucky
            Originally Posted by raxr View Post

            You mean 10 amazon money making sites or 10 money making sites in general? In that case, you're telling me you made $2500 on black friday from just 2 amazon sites??? How much traffic were they getting?
            Amazon only!

            I don't remember the exact traffic, I think I show in one of the videos, I think it was 10K plus on BF!

            Originally Posted by Johnny Wallbridge View Post

            This Thread is insane! I have been checking it for a few months now and it just keeps going and going. Good work Chucky
            Thanks man! I try to check this at least every other day and answer the questions to the best of my knowledge.
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            • Profile picture of the author RayW
              Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

              Amazon only!

              I don't remember the exact traffic, I think I show in one of the videos, I think it was 10K plus on BF!
              Ah ok. Still, that much from just 10 sites isn't bad at all... really shows the power of amazon during shopping season.
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              • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                Originally Posted by ichl13 View Post

                Just want to let you know that this thread has been so useful for me (a newbie)
                Originally Posted by Gary336 View Post

                Thanks very much for all the information and effort. The post is not only very useful, but also enjoyable to follow.
                Thank you for the encouraging words guys!

                Originally Posted by raxr View Post

                Ah ok. Still, that much from just 10 sites isn't bad at all... really shows the power of amazon during shopping season.
                Absolutely! .... especially if you're in the right niche!
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      Originally Posted by ichl13 View Post

      Just want to let you know that this thread has been so useful for me (a newbie)
      same for me too as newbie. I have never come accross such a valuable thread like this. It'a wonderfull that there are some good people who are willing to help to this level.
      Thank you gentleman.
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      • Profile picture of the author amarketing
        Thanks for the answers, Chucky.

        After reading your post that SearchTermsTagging2 may have caused site to loose ranking after the panda update, I uninstalled it, so I'm not using it.

        I had a felling that it would be best to get the site up and learn what works as I go along and not try to get everything just perfect the first time, but just wanted to make sure.

        I'm thinking that I'm going to go for volume and try to put up many little 4-5 page sites. I know they all won't make money, but that's the point. I figure that with the 80/20 rule, I should at least find a few good prospects that I can focus on while letting the non-performers go.

        How many sites do you have up, now?
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      • Profile picture of the author amarketing
        Chucky, thanks for getting to my question. I totally understand your reasoning for backing off of this thread. You've put forth so much effort in this thread and have helped very many users here (myself included) to finally stop analyzing everything and GET STARTED!

        You deserve a break! However, please consider bookmarking this thread so when things slow down for you and you have the time/desire to get back into IM, you can pull this thread back up to page 1 and help and inspire more folks .

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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by raxr View Post

          Ok, Chucky, I think this will be my last question (i promise! lol): For the main keyword that site was targeting, could you check its exact average monthly searches on google keyword tool?
          4400

          Originally Posted by mittel View Post

          Hi Chuck, thanks for the great informational post about seo.

          Could you tell me if you use a static page on your homepage about the main keyword with full post or just different posts with excerpts?

          Another question regarding setting up 5 sites with 5 different keywords.
          So i need to have one primary keyword that will be the main keyword right?The main keyword if possible as an EMD.
          And beside that i will need 4 other keywords. So for each site i will have different main keyword? please explain
          thanks
          I used to do one sticky post with the theme keyword, but now I do 3-4 posts on the homepage. Typically 1 is optimized for the theme kw.

          Yes these 5 primary keywords are not too similar like some people interpreted. If they are as similar as boys 12 inch bikes, boys 14 inch bikes and boys 16 inch bicycles those will be on one site. But I will make different websites for boys mountain bikes, childrens bikes and toddlers bikes. Got it?

          Originally Posted by outwest View Post

          Did the site (your baby) that got kicked

          ever recover its ranking?
          Nope!

          See as soon as I lost it, I insisted that this was my best site and all that. That's because I only remembered about posts that I made in the relatively recent past. But the other day I looked at the like the first 20 posts I made on that site and I was like 'what was I thinking?'. I had posts that I had copied and pasted from Ezine Articles (some were my own ones, others were written by others so they had their resource boxes and all). I had absolutely no theme to the site. And then later I was asking myself what took Google so long to catch my site? I have done quite a bit of cleaning up (brought down t=40 posts to ~20) but there's a lot more to do. I feel like making a new one from scratch may be a better idea.
          The funny thing is that though it ranks #1 for the exact domain keyword which gets like 8 visitors/day. But for the high traffic keywords it's no where to be found

          Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

          Chucky, thanks for getting to my question. I totally understand your reasoning for backing off of this thread. You've put forth so much effort in this thread and have helped very many users here (myself included) to finally stop analyzing everything and GET STARTED!

          You deserve a break! However, please consider bookmarking this thread so when things slow down for you and you have the time/desire to get back into IM, you can pull this thread back up to page 1 and help and inspire more folks .

          Have a good one.
          Thanks man! But it won't be a break! And when the money stops flowing... blood pressure goes up, cholesterol goes up just kidding I hope!!!
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    Chucky, do you us Google Anlytics at all? Do you recommend using it?

    Thanks a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    Chucky, what backlinking tools would you recommend for newbies who can't really afford stuff like SEnukeX, etc?
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  • Profile picture of the author silent11100
    hello Chucky

    thank for sharing this awsome information.subpage of my site is currently rank on #10 on yahoo and #16 on google.

    i needed some help from you can you please give me your skype id
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    Very helpful post its a big deal to learn simply SEO.
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    • Profile picture of the author Morbrook
      Thanks for the inspiring post Chucky. I was lucky and my very first website has been pretty succesfully (I created my own product from a hobby and sell it on clickbank). It's given me a decent amount of money to play with so now I can invest it into experimenting with Amazon sites following your guide. I think having some success at the beginning of ones internet marketing career is very important for motivating you down the road when the failures do come. Thanks again.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by raxr View Post

        Chucky, what backlinking tools would you recommend for newbies who can't really afford stuff like SEnukeX, etc?
        Actually you don't need many tools to conquer the low hanging fruit. Manual submissions are more than enough! Incansoft (Big Mike) has a variety of very affordable software for all kinds of submissions. If you sign up to his list, you will get regular sales selling them at $7.77/piece!

        Originally Posted by probizwiz View Post

        hello i see you proff what i want to know is how is this made possiblem to do this to make easy money online is it the software mnf
        No you don't need MNF necessarily. Pick a low competitive term at the beginning and just TAKE ACTION!

        Originally Posted by silent11100 View Post

        hello Chucky

        thank for sharing this awsome information.subpage of my site is currently rank on #10 on yahoo and #16 on google.

        i needed some help from you can you please give me your skype id
        Hey, thanks! That's great to hear!

        I'm sorry, I don't have time for any 'official consultations'. If you post your specific questions here, I'll try my best to answer them to the best of my knowledge!

        Originally Posted by Morbrook View Post

        Thanks for the inspiring post Chucky. I was lucky and my very first website has been pretty succesfully (I created my own product from a hobby and sell it on clickbank). It's given me a decent amount of money to play with so now I can invest it into experimenting with Amazon sites following your guide. I think having some success at the beginning of ones internet marketing career is very important for motivating you down the road when the failures do come. Thanks again.
        Couldn't agree more! I think I too got lucky with the very first product I picked. I didn't know anything about competition or commercial intent or proper SEO. I just picked a product based on my Science knowledge. One that increases your gas mileage and it was in 2007/08 when gas hit $4/gallon. I kept spamming auto-forums and craigslist to get traffic (obviously not knowing what I was doing). Without knowing I was building links and achieved Google rankings and I had no idea what was happening. Not to mention the quality content I was providing based on my science background.

        If you take action, you will get lucky! You may make a few mistakes, but you're bound to do something right.. but only if you take action. So when you TAKE ACTION, the chances of you getting lucky hits the roof! If you don't take action and wait to get lucky, it never happens!
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  • Profile picture of the author mahmoud747
    Hi Chucky
    Could you tell what is avg conversion rate for your sites ?
    And how you could increase it if you found it very low ?
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  • Profile picture of the author jtotani
    Wow Chucky! I'm a new Warrior Forum user and I find your awesome post! Thank you very much for the valuable information! Hope you get plenty of good karma for it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Morbrook
      Couldn't agree more! I think I too got lucky with the very first product I picked. I didn't know anything about competition or commercial intent or proper SEO. I just picked a product based on my Science knowledge. One that increases your gas mileage and it was in 2007/08 when gas hit $4/gallon. I kept spamming auto-forums and craigslist to get traffic (obviously not knowing what I was doing). Without knowing I was building links and achieved Google rankings and I had no idea what was happening. Not to mention the quality content I was providing based on my science background.
      That's pretty funny, very similar to my situation. My product is in the electric vehicle niche (sales always increase with gas prices). I also went crazing posting adds on craigslist in the beginning to get traffic. When I was at work I would quietly move from terminal to terminal changing my ip address and setting up as many new craigslist accounts as I could. Then posting adds in all major cities in the US. Made a few sales before my accounts were banned and I realized that was not the best way to get traffic. I didn't do any back linking, it all came naturally as people found my site and linked to it. Probably why it did so well.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by mahmoud747 View Post

        Hi Chucky
        Could you tell what is avg conversion rate for your sites ?
        And how you could increase it if you found it very low ?
        I can't give a 'universal conversion rate' for all my sites. I will be the first to admit that my conversions aren't great. I don't think I put enough work on improving conversions. It depends on what kind of keyword you're targeting. Is it an informational type of keyword? If that is the case, your conversions would be low to none. An e.g. would be "home remedies for tooth ache". In contrast, if the keyword is like 'Fisher Price Cadillac Escalade Kids Riding Toy', the conversion rate would be extremely high!

        Then of course comes if you're doing a good job providing information about the product/service you're promoting. Are you giving them an affy link right away or are you trying to do a genuine review of the product? Have you used the product? Have you at least read the reviews left by actual consumers (e.g. on Amazon).

        Does the product you're trying to promote relieve a pain (physical or emotional)? How desperate are they for your product? e.g. to catch a cheating boy friend; to get an ex-bf back; to improve sex life; to find the love of their life? Or is it scammy like 'with this method, I guarantee you will win the Lotto once every 5 times you try'?

        Is the sales page of the official website good? Do they capture your traffic by getting them to subscribe to a free news letter etc.?

        These are just a few things that come to my mind! Hope this helps!

        I have sites that make as many as 5-10 sales per 100 visitors, those that make 1-2 sales per 100 visitors and those that have made like 2 sales for the lifetime (1000s of visitors).

        It all comes to kw research!

        Originally Posted by Morbrook View Post

        That's pretty funny, very similar to my situation. My product is in the electric vehicle niche (sales always increase with gas prices). I also went crazing posting adds on craigslist in the beginning to get traffic. When I was at work I would quietly move from terminal to terminal changing my ip address and setting up as many new craigslist accounts as I could. Then posting adds in all major cities in the US. Made a few sales before my accounts were banned and I realized that was not the best way to get traffic. I didn't do any back linking, it all came naturally as people found my site and linked to it. Probably why it did so well.
        Ha ha! that is funny! See as long as you do something it will ultimately pave the way to a reliable/non-spammy/value generating method!

        I don't think anybody ever linked to my site though! However, something that I did notice was that the vendor took some tips from my site and improved his sales page
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    Wow! Great! I'm bookmarking this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    Chucky, can you give more details about the site you showed the traffic stats for on one of your videos, the one that made a lot from amazon during november/december? Was the keyword a product name keyword? Did most of your revenues come from promoting the product on the site or other products that visitors bought from amazon? How much was the product you were promoting on the site selling for?
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  • Profile picture of the author AbsolutNewbie
    Dear Chucky,

    Can you put it all together (in a video so one can see HOW to do rather than WHAT to do) so that an absolute newbie can follow you step by step?
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    Great stats, i hope i get that one day. I've been trying my balls out.
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  • Profile picture of the author techbob
    Very good information. I am new at this and I was looking at ClickBank only. After reading your post, believe that I should expand to multiple sources (CPA, Clickbank, Amazon, etc). This would expand income.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by raxr View Post

      Chucky, can you give more details about the site you showed the traffic stats for on one of your videos, the one that made a lot from amazon during november/december? Was the keyword a product name keyword? Did most of your revenues come from promoting the product on the site or other products that visitors bought from amazon? How much was the product you were promoting on the site selling for?
      It was about a $150 product. The majority of sales were from other products that happen to be in their shopping cart!

      Originally Posted by AbsolutNewbie View Post

      Dear Chucky,

      Can you put it all together (in a video so one can see HOW to do rather than WHAT to do) so that an absolute newbie can follow you step by step?
      And how much would you pay me for my time?

      Originally Posted by techbob View Post

      Very good information. I am new at this and I was looking at ClickBank only. After reading your post, believe that I should expand to multiple sources (CPA, Clickbank, Amazon, etc). This would expand income.
      Absolutely!
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      • Profile picture of the author goldenbbq
        hi Chucky,

        i sought your assistance before and you thankfully replied to me however, I am still stuck with some annoying issues, can you put your valued input here please Chucky, I will definetely understand your situation if you are busy with your college stuff, and please just do it when you have some free time in your hands, you are giving us a lot of help without expecting any returns, but guess what you are there in our daily prayers, and mine are 5 times/day ones (lol): this is what I seek your kind assistance with:-

        -I am still a newbie of course(since I didn't even start yet) and trying to build a niche site following your advices and some others(whom i read their amazon free stuff)

        -his suggestion was to choose a keyword with at least 3,000/month, however, I chose to go by your recommends for newbies and found one with 720/month in kitchen and cooking arena.

        -It's in kitchen appliances, to avoid competition I chose e.g."electric slow cooker" as an example .. gave me around 1,600 search/month, but almost 4 M in google competing sites, then decided to make it less and found "electric slow cooker reviews" is closer to your 750/month norm for newbies, it was = 720/month however, it still has 2,950,000 compeition in google, again way more than what you recommended for us(30,000) and this is what I found with other competing websites:-

        -8 out of ten were BIG authority sites. first 2 amazon, nextag, cooking.com, bestbuy, kitchen applliancesx.com, wallmart, but 2 of them were even with more good contents, like e.g.
        consumer research site ??and the other one was a famous amazon affiliate review site (knew that from his picture on top) site with EMD with well written review site where he is comparing main brands of this item with all accessories, amazon reviews, buy by size, by brand, ...etc this affiliate site is no 4 in page one google, so here is more clarification of my questions:-

        1- as newbie i find if hard to try to compete with another more experience amazon affilate and a review site with exact key in his domain, even though i can find a good domain , but i am less confident i can beat?

        2-if I try to break my niche even narrower, e,g, "best electric slow cooker reviews" google search results of course comes also less, = 260/month, CAN I GO BY THIS monthly search number????

        I have read in another place that some go with very low search and still succeed? also I noticed that some keyword still have high competion color tags near them when doing keyword search even though their monthly search volume is less than 1000 i don't get this? is this same as looking at competion section in google?

        3-The e.g. less than 30,000 google competion is almost nonexistance to me I wish if there is with some products I like to promote, and this key word search is driving me nuts and I know I can't put a brand name in my domain, otherwise if e.g. I choose something like black&decor 600bs slow cooker I really find some interesting results with less competion but i know i can't do that.

        4-do you a also dvice newbies to only go for $100-150 amazon price tag and to stick to at least 9-10 amazon reviews? I found some products I like however, they don't have enough amazon reviews and no other 4 competing products in the same niche as some would suggest?
        5-I notice the consumer research website alomst in every product I tried to pick and they appear on first google, is that ok competion wise? how about all to be big authority sites? is there any easy way for me to check how strong they are?
        6-i would say i checked a lot of those "main stream" product and their search/monthly level and i found tough competion for newbie like me which leads me to always think narrower, less, less spending crazy amount of time , really leading me to start allover again i spent almost 2 months on this.
        .Chucky thanks a million,
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        • Profile picture of the author amarketing
          Wow, thanks so much for your reply, Chucky!

          I had no idea that I wasn't supposed to use my ranking anchor text, I'll have to change that right away. I'll nofollow them for the most part. I figure it can't hurt.
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          • Profile picture of the author John2810
            Hi Chucky,

            First of all thank you for starting this thread. I chance upon this after one year of graduation / working and 4 years since I was active in trying to build my own websites.

            This thread and all the replies really re-ignite my desire to get going again. So thanks!

            I have a qns, I'm on to your Day 13 guide. I have done my keyword research...EMD domain name, 5 posts in my wordpress website (one 1000+ word article as the sticky post with the theme kw), meta tags populated.

            For off-page SEO, I have spent some hours searching for high authority websites to build links to my site. It seems the authority sites for my niche are only about PageRank 5.

            Should I be concerned about the PageRank of the sites I build backlinks? Or should I just go ahead and post / submit according to the natural link velocity?
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  • Profile picture of the author amarketing
    Hey Chucky, sorry to get back so late. I wanted to thank you for answering all of my questions. I appreciated it.

    I also wondered, how essential is it to have every plug-in optimized perfectly? There are quite a few options with these plugins (I'm using the free ones for now) and I'm wondering if it will drastically affect my ability to rank if I don't get them all set just right?

    But then I wonder if I'm just over-thinking everything and should just set it however, throw the site up, and move on to the next?

    Thanks for your input.
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

    Actually you don't need many tools to conquer the low hanging fruit. Manual submissions are more than enough!
    I started a site recently that's ranked #7 for the primary kw and I haven't done any backlinking. This is what I did for the on-page seo:

    - kw in meta tags, title tag
    - EMD
    - kw in <h1> and <h2>, related kw in <h3>
    - kw mentioned 3 times in post (which is about 550 words)
    - 5-7 LSI keywords (which I got from google keyword tool) mentioned throughout the post
    - Used my main keyword 3 times in the post (which is about 550 words)
    - internal links contain anchor text related to the primary keyword of the page
    - 2 images w/ keyword in the alt tags
    - included a youtube video

    I have about 3 posts so far. Would adding more help rankings?

    What else can I do to maximize on-page seo?

    Also, what type of banners/product image links do you use to promote amazon products? I'm just using a banner at the top and a few text links in the main article. Will this suffice?
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  • Profile picture of the author glowinggal
    Hi Chucky! I'm a lurker I guess you could say - here at the Warrior Forums. I'm new'ish to IM but not the internet, website or Word Press building or even SEO (I've worked with an SEO Firm in the past). They taught me much of what you have suggested to everyone here. YEARS ago on another site of mine - many of the same genuine SEO methods were used and still hold true today that you have found work and are teaching everyone here in your post. If you do it by the books opposed to cheating the system - many times you will find you do not need to make much change later on). Finding IM I am seeing all the skills I already posses and put together with your insight could really do great things for me! I wanted to thank you directly here for the motivation it has provided me with - happily I know what my weekend will entail! TAKING ACTION with the skills I already posses - which I am so thankful for b/c I know so many from reading this thread are entirely new and will encounter many hours learning what I already know


    rambling I know - but basically I have spent 2 days devouring your information and can't wait to run with this! Thank you so much for all the time you have given us all!
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    very nice threads, i'll follow your suggestion.
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    • Profile picture of the author WhosGotMoves
      Chucky, this is an extremely informative thread, and I hope you continue to add on to it in the future. I've switched up my SEO strategies a bit to coincide with the info you've provided.

      I just wanted to say thanks for putting in all the time, effort, and compassion for those who haven't yet made it to your level of success. There are a lot of us out there who value a thread like this. Especially when someone really shows that they genuinely want to help others.

      Thank you!
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

        Hey Chucky, sorry to get back so late. I wanted to thank you for answering all of my questions. I appreciated it.

        I also wondered, how essential is it to have every plug-in optimized perfectly? There are quite a few options with these plugins (I'm using the free ones for now) and I'm wondering if it will drastically affect my ability to rank if I don't get them all set just right?

        But then I wonder if I'm just over-thinking everything and should just set it however, throw the site up, and move on to the next?

        Thanks for your input.
        You're right, what's most important is to just get on with it without over thinking; but you need to get them right as well.

        On the Search Terms Tagging 2 plugin - don't hyperlink search terms to the post and display no more than 7-10 search terms.

        I also don't use SEOPressor anymore. So don't worry about the paid plugins.

        You can also always do a Google search for 'how to configure [plugin name]' and you will see how different people do it and you can pick the method that suits you best!

        Glad to see that you're taking action!

        Originally Posted by raxr View Post

        I started a site recently that's ranked #7 for the primary kw and I haven't done any backlinking. This is what I did for the on-page seo:

        - kw in meta tags, title tag
        - EMD
        - kw in <h1> and <h2>, related kw in <h3>
        - kw mentioned 3 times in post (which is about 550 words)
        - 5-7 LSI keywords (which I got from google keyword tool) mentioned throughout the post
        - Used my main keyword 3 times in the post (which is about 550 words)
        - internal links contain anchor text related to the primary keyword of the page
        - 2 images w/ keyword in the alt tags
        - included a youtube video

        I have about 3 posts so far. Would adding more help rankings?

        What else can I do to maximize on-page seo?

        Also, what type of banners/product image links do you use to promote amazon products? I'm just using a banner at the top and a few text links in the main article. Will this suffice?
        Wow congrats! That's great!

        Yes especially after Panda, the more posts the better as long as you don't deviate from the main theme.

        Don't worry about too much on page optimization. You can get penalties for 'over-optimizing'.

        I don't do banners at all (doesn't mean that's the right thing to do); I insert images manually and I also have text in big bold lettering 'Go here/Click here to learn more/buy now/check it out' etc.

        Originally Posted by glowinggal View Post

        Hi Chucky! I'm a lurker I guess you could say - here at the Warrior Forums. I'm new'ish to IM but not the internet, website or Word Press building or even SEO (I've worked with an SEO Firm in the past). They taught me much of what you have suggested to everyone here. YEARS ago on another site of mine - many of the same genuine SEO methods were used and still hold true today that you have found work and are teaching everyone here in your post. If you do it by the books opposed to cheating the system - many times you will find you do not need to make much change later on). Finding IM I am seeing all the skills I already posses and put together with your insight could really do great things for me! I wanted to thank you directly here for the motivation it has provided me with - happily I know what my weekend will entail! TAKING ACTION with the skills I already posses - which I am so thankful for b/c I know so many from reading this thread are entirely new and will encounter many hours learning what I already know


        rambling I know - but basically I have spent 2 days devouring your information and can't wait to run with this! Thank you so much for all the time you have given us all!
        Thank you! Glad to hear that you found value on this thread! All the best and keep us posted!

        Originally Posted by luc1f3r View Post

        very nice threads, i'll follow your suggestion.
        Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves View Post

        Chucky, this is an extremely informative thread, and I hope you continue to add on to it in the future. I've switched up my SEO strategies a bit to coincide with the info you've provided.

        I just wanted to say thanks for putting in all the time, effort, and compassion for those who haven't yet made it to your level of success. There are a lot of us out there who value a thread like this. Especially when someone really shows that they genuinely want to help others.

        Thank you!
        Thank you guys, really appreciate your kind words! They mean a lot to me!
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  • Profile picture of the author humboldt
    Wow ... wow ... wow !
    I have just tripped over this thread and I gotta admit my head is spinning with all the valuable insights included.
    I now have to set a time to review thoroughly.
    Thanks, Chucky !
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  • Profile picture of the author mittel
    Great and FREE info you put on here. This is an amazing tutorial for newbies.
    I never thought of the the 5 same keyword site concept. So what you do is get 5 related keywords. 1 will be the main keyword and the other 4 are the secondary keywords. Will all the 5 websites have the main keyword in their URL?please explain. Also do you choose to be 1 main keyword the same for all the sites? The main page will that be a static page with a full article displayed with main keyword or all posts displayed in excerpts? I want to try this out.. When you let someone make the rewrite do they rewrite each sentence?Does it get through copyscape, does it look original?
    thank you
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

      Thanks for the answers, Chucky.

      After reading your post that SearchTermsTagging2 may have caused site to loose ranking after the panda update, I uninstalled it, so I'm not using it.

      I had a felling that it would be best to get the site up and learn what works as I go along and not try to get everything just perfect the first time, but just wanted to make sure.

      I'm thinking that I'm going to go for volume and try to put up many little 4-5 page sites. I know they all won't make money, but that's the point. I figure that with the 80/20 rule, I should at least find a few good prospects that I can focus on while letting the non-performers go.

      How many sites do you have up, now?
      Well I still have SET2 on all of my sites. Most have the link still functional and on others I've just disabled the active link.

      Yes 80/20 rule... everybody talks about it... has to be true from my experience as well (may even be 95/5 rule in my case!).

      Actually, I've been going for more like 8-10 posts post-Panda.

      I probably have like 30-40 sites up, I don't know for sure. What I do know is that only a handful of them make me money on a daily basis Lost one of my biggest earners with Panda 2.2

      Originally Posted by mittel View Post

      Great and FREE info you put on here. This is an amazing tutorial for newbies.
      I never thought of the the 5 same keyword site concept. So what you do is get 5 related keywords. 1 will be the main keyword and the other 4 are the secondary keywords. Will all the 5 websites have the main keyword in their URL?please explain. Also do you choose to be 1 main keyword the same for all the sites? The main page will that be a static page with a full article displayed with main keyword or all posts displayed in excerpts? I want to try this out.. When you let someone make the rewrite do they rewrite each sentence?Does it get through copyscape, does it look original?
      thank you
      Hey, thanks!

      hmmm... not exactly "5 same keyword" more like "5 same niche"

      No not the same keyword unless I want to dominate the whole first page (which I've never attempted).

      The primary keywords are essentially different. Hmmm let's think of a niche that I'm NOT in. OK got one... get your ex back... I'll give 3 theme kw that I might think of targeting (provided kw search volume/competition are favorable). "How to get your ex back", "Get Ex Wife Back", "Get Ex Girl Friend back". They are similar but not as similar as "how to get your ex back", "Get your ex back", "Get my ex back" See what I mean? I would typically try to target phrases as similar as the latter set with 2ry kw on the same site.

      Yes... kind of static with a sticky post. No excerpts. But post-Panda, everybody's saying to use multiple posts on the front page to make it bigger... 2-3 sticky posts!

      Because my rewriters have been writing for me for a long time, I don't check with CopyScape. What I know is that all pages/posts get indexed by Google. I don't want them to be sentence by sentence rewrites, I'd rather have them take the idea and rewrite the idea. That way the number of paragraphs, sentences, words would be different and would look more unique in the eyes of Google (that's my unproven theory of course)!

      Hope that helps!
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    where is the sound :S
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  • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
    OK. It's been a while and as I sit here at 4am I thought it's time to give a little back.

    So for those of us who prefer free plug-ins and tools I'll list a few I've found useful. No idea if most of you will laugh me out of WF for this, or if I look totally newb, but hey these work for me...

    All in One SEO Pack - Great for page titles, descriptions and keywords

    Blogger High SEO - From what I hear it's like SEOpressor, but free. (their other stuff is pretty good too)

    FanPage Connect Free - Pretty decent FB page maker for WP

    PPinger - Let your viewers do the pingin'


    Anybody care to add to the list?
    How about some free plug-ins to handle my PingFM, OnlyWire and PixelPipe? That would be nice...

    Again, again, again. Huge thanks for everything you've given us so far Chucky
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by PeckhamPirate View Post

      OK. It's been a while and as I sit here at 4am I thought it's time to give a little back.

      So for those of us who prefer free plug-ins and tools I'll list a few I've found useful. No idea if most of you will laugh me out of WF for this, or if I look totally newb, but hey these work for me...

      All in One SEO Pack - Great for page titles, descriptions and keywords

      Blogger High SEO - From what I hear it's like SEOpressor, but free. (their other stuff is pretty good too)

      FanPage Connect Free - Pretty decent FB page maker for WP

      PPinger - Let your viewers do the pingin'


      Anybody care to add to the list?
      How about some free plug-ins to handle my PingFM, OnlyWire and PixelPipe? That would be nice...

      Again, again, again. Huge thanks for everything you've given us so far Chucky
      Hey! Thanks! I have not heard of the last 3 plugins! Sounds great!

      BTW, for SEO, now I'm using Yoast WordPress SEO plugin - Setting up is a little (actually a LOT) complex, but amazing! I don't use SEOpressor or any alternatives anymore, on my new sites that is. I hear there's also one called Stallion SEO plugin - its developer claims it to be better than Yoast plugin, but never tried, so I wouldn't know!

      Looks like you're taking action and that's great to hear!
      Chucky
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  • Profile picture of the author perzefi
    Hey Chucky !
    Great content here and nice tips also that i haven't heard anywhere.

    Im still waiting for you to countinue this thread with

    10 - How i do it now
    11 - How i did it when i got started
    11 - Here;s a plan

    Best Regards
    Flori
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  • Profile picture of the author Retziki
    This thread worth more than lots of paid WSOs that I’ve bought so far.
    Thanks for taking the time to share this.
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    Update on my rankings:
    Started 3 sites total targeting november/december keywords.
    - Site 1 is ranked #6 for its kw which gets 1000 searches/month
    - Site 2 is ranked #7 for its kw which gets 210 searches/month
    - Site 3 is ranked #6 for its kw which gets 720 searches/month
    There haven't been a lot of visitors to my sites yet b/c 95% of the searches come during november/december, which is good.
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  • Profile picture of the author tantan
    Wow... a quite long tutorial... great great!
    I'm excited to read the whole of this. Thanks Chucky!
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    • Profile picture of the author niiche
      Great info ,

      thanks Chucky,

      i have a question about backlinking,


      each pyramid is only one link to the money site, now you said that you rarely build more than 2 of the linkmagnet type in the photo you pointed to and are dominating niches this way, my question is how can 2 high PR links be enough to beat a competitor with up to 300 links, one would assume that at least some of the competitors links are of qood PR quality and that some may be pointing to their page or is it the fact that the competitor has not optimised his page that leads you to believe that they would not of carried out any off site seo.


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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by perzefi View Post

        Hey Chucky !
        Great content here and nice tips also that i haven't heard anywhere.

        Im still waiting for you to countinue this thread with

        10 - How i do it now
        11 - How i did it when i got started
        11 - Here;s a plan

        Best Regards
        Flori
        Yes I know I haven't done it! This is my final year in my graduate program and a lot of work (not IM work); I actually started doing something don't know if I'll have time to finish it! Right now IM is not my priority! Till about March-April next year

        Originally Posted by Retziki View Post

        This thread worth more than lots of paid WSOs that I've bought so far.
        Thanks for taking the time to share this.
        Thank you Tetziki, those words mean a lot to me!

        Originally Posted by raxr View Post

        Update on my rankings:
        Started 3 sites total targeting november/december keywords.
        - Site 1 is ranked #6 for its kw which gets 1000 searches/month
        - Site 2 is ranked #7 for its kw which gets 210 searches/month
        - Site 3 is ranked #6 for its kw which gets 720 searches/month
        There haven't been a lot of visitors to my sites yet b/c 95% of the searches come during november/december, which is good.
        That's great news!

        I just checked two of my niches from last year. Both of them had an exact count of 2900. I think that is probably correct because I do get about 50 visitors/day. 3000/month is 100/day and 42% for #1

        How many visitors did I get on BF? GOK because I didn't have Google analytics on most of these sites!

        Hopefully they are also expensive products! But then again that really doesn't matter because of the shopping cart effect. Keep in mind that you can get pushed around towards BF because all those big sites that are lying dormant right now (may or may not be in your case) can start to push their sites up the rankings. They've seen this through the years and know how to play much better than you and I! Start adding fresh content and fresh backlinks starting mid October on a regular basis so that search engines will think you're important in spite of being new!

        Originally Posted by niiche View Post

        Great info ,

        thanks Chucky,

        i have a question about backlinking,


        each pyramid is only one link to the money site, now you said that you rarely build more than 2 of the linkmagnet type in the photo you pointed to and are dominating niches this way, my question is how can 2 high PR links be enough to beat a competitor with up to 300 links, one would assume that at least some of the competitors links are of qood PR quality and that some may be pointing to their page or is it the fact that the competitor has not optimised his page that leads you to believe that they would not of carried out any off site seo.


        niiche
        To be honest, I don't remember the last time I built one. Thanks for refreshing my memory! I might do a couple now!

        What I meant was when I made these link magnets I only do 2. That doesn't mean I don't do social bookmarking, article marketing, video submissions, press releases etc. etc. Got it?

        To be quite honest I don't know if these magnets work anymore or not! Haven't done much IM work lately!
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        • Profile picture of the author RayW
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          I just checked two of my niches from last year. Both of them had an exact count of 2900. I think that is probably correct because I do get about 50 visitors/day. 3000/month is 100/day and 42% for #1
          You said only one of your sites made you the bulk of sales, right? What was the difference between that site and the other sites?


          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          Keep in mind that you can get pushed around towards BF because all those big sites that are lying dormant right now (may or may not be in your case) can start to push their sites up the rankings. They've seen this through the years and know how to play much better than you and I! Start adding fresh content and fresh backlinks starting mid October on a regular basis so that search engines will think you're important in spite of being new!
          Wouldn't that be for sites that are targeting black friday specifically rather than black friday products?

          By the way, do your sites target black friday/black friday deals keywords or just product names of popular black friday/christmas products?
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        • Profile picture of the author niiche
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          Yes I know I haven't done it! This is my final year in my graduate program and a lot of work (not IM work); I actually started doing something don't know if I'll have time to finish it! Right now IM is not my priority! Till about March-April next year



          Thank you Tetziki, those words mean a lot to me!



          That's great news!

          I just checked two of my niches from last year. Both of them had an exact count of 2900. I think that is probably correct because I do get about 50 visitors/day. 3000/month is 100/day and 42% for #1

          How many visitors did I get on BF? GOK because I didn't have Google analytics on most of these sites!

          Hopefully they are also expensive products! But then again that really doesn't matter because of the shopping cart effect. Keep in mind that you can get pushed around towards BF because all those big sites that are lying dormant right now (may or may not be in your case) can start to push their sites up the rankings. They've seen this through the years and know how to play much better than you and I! Start adding fresh content and fresh backlinks starting mid October on a regular basis so that search engines will think you're important in spite of being new!



          To be honest, I don't remember the last time I built one. Thanks for refreshing my memory! I might do a couple now!

          What I meant was when I made these link magnets I only do 2. That doesn't mean I don't do social bookmarking, article marketing, video submissions, press releases etc. etc. Got it?

          To be quite honest I don't know if these magnets work anymore or not! Haven't done much IM work lately!

          OK so tier 1 links directly to the money site and tier 2 linked to the tier one links, is that correct?

          On the subject of the link magnets i think the week link(pardon the pun) is the wheel because all that is doing is equalising the pr around the pages, i gather the idea is to increase the PR of tier 1 to make that link more valuable, as PR is one of the factors taken into consideration when the big g is evaluating a link.

          Maybe a good way would be to link say 4 web2.0 s together so as to channel the PR from ABCD to A (but not in a wheel) that then gives page A of the web 2.0 a kick start with good PR value, A would then act as tier 1 to the money site then backlink the hell out of page A of the web2.0 with other high PR article directories etc and rinse and repeat.


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          • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
            @Chucky
            So if you're pushing a site for a particular time of year - in your case Black Friday - but it could be summer, valentine's, hallowe'en etc, how would you suggest fighting off bigger sites and holding a ranking when they step up?
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  • Profile picture of the author rowebil
    So, all the earnings was mostly from like Amazon? And ClibkBank?
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    Thanks a bunch for the amazing amount of info,gonna take a wile to digest!
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  • Profile picture of the author monci
    Thank you so much for sharing. I get new knowledge now.
    maybe I'll try it, hope it can work
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    You have stated it all.... Any newbie just landing here for the first time, read this thread and put it into action will think this whole thing is a lot easier. Well, its a piece of cake.

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    • Profile picture of the author mtnmom5
      Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

      You have stated it all.... Any newbie just landing here for the first time, read this thread and put it into action will think this whole thing is a lot easier. Well, its a piece of cake.

      John
      Putting it into action is the key.... No action = no moolah.
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      Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

      You have stated it all.... Any newbie just landing here for the first time, read this thread and put it into action will think this whole thing is a lot easier. Well, its a piece of cake.

      John
      True that. I just got into it after reading Chucky's thread; I made my first affiliate sale last weekend. Working on pushing 5 seperate affiliate sites up to page one right now.

      I've got the action; I'm sure I'll see results
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  • Profile picture of the author amarketing
    Chucky, you said that you aren't really do much IM right now? I take it that you aren't updating your sites with articles to much then.

    How are their serps; have they fallen, risen, stayed the same?

    Do the sites still generate an income for you? Is it less than when you were more attentive to the sites?

    Thanks for all of your efforts.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by raxr View Post

      You said only one of your sites made you the bulk of sales, right? What was the difference between that site and the other sites?

      Wouldn't that be for sites that are targeting black friday specifically rather than black friday products?

      By the way, do your sites target black friday/black friday deals keywords or just product names of popular black friday/christmas products?
      That site ranked #1-5 for multiple product name keywords. e.g. Not just "Gifts for her" but "specific gift name best deals" kind of phrase and also "specific gift name black friday deals". I think I already mentioned that on the very first post.

      Both! Just product names and product name + black friday deals.

      I lost several pages (2-3 if I remember right) targeting this kind of phrases days before Black Friday to authority sites!

      Originally Posted by niiche View Post

      OK so tier 1 links directly to the money site and tier 2 linked to the tier one links, is that correct?

      On the subject of the link magnets i think the week link(pardon the pun) is the wheel because all that is doing is equalising the pr around the pages, i gather the idea is to increase the PR of tier 1 to make that link more valuable, as PR is one of the factors taken into consideration when the big g is evaluating a link.

      Maybe a good way would be to link say 4 web2.0 s together so as to channel the PR from ABCD to A (but not in a wheel) that then gives page A of the web 2.0 a kick start with good PR value, A would then act as tier 1 to the money site then backlink the hell out of page A of the web2.0 with other high PR article directories etc and rinse and repeat.


      niiche
      Yup Tier 1 are usually authority sites - better article directories, web 2.0, your own network etc.
      Tier 2 are crappy ones - e.g. profile links, blog comment spam, Xrumer blasts etc.

      Originally Posted by ultraffiliation View Post

      True that. I just got into it after reading Chucky's thread; I made my first affiliate sale last weekend. Working on pushing 5 seperate affiliate sites up to page one right now.

      I've got the action; I'm sure I'll see results
      That is AWESOME! Congratulations! Rinse and Repeat! Great news!

      Originally Posted by PeckhamPirate View Post

      @Chucky
      So if you're pushing a site for a particular time of year - in your case Black Friday - but it could be summer, valentine's, hallowe'en etc, how would you suggest fighting off bigger sites and holding a ranking when they step up?
      I honestly don't know a specific tactic per se. Because your sniper site (now I do more than 5 pages post Panda) is more focused than the authority site, you still hold the edge. I don't do anything more than just pray Most held their rankings, others didn't. I was also afraid to increase backlinks because I was afraid that would get them to dance/sandbox. So I didn't do any excessive backlinking. But I did add content on a regular basis.

      I remember, the year before (2009 BF) I only had a couple of sites targeting BF products and my best site which was about #4-5 the whole year suddenly disappeared in October/November. I had no idea what to do. Fortunately I was a StomperNet member at that time and they advised me to add fresh content and backlinks and it brought back the site but if I remember right it was dancing around on the most important days! I think I made something like $2K-3K/month in Nov and Dec that year from Amazon.

      Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

      Chucky, you said that you aren't really do much IM right now? I take it that you aren't updating your sites with articles to much then.

      How are their serps; have they fallen, risen, stayed the same?

      Do the sites still generate an income for you? Is it less than when you were more attentive to the sites?

      Thanks for all of your efforts.
      I was hoping nobody would ask that question

      Yes I have lost several #1s in case of Amazon sites. They don't make any money during the off-season anyway, so I neglected them. I see a lot of #2s and 3s of sites that ranked #1 this time last year.

      Amazon has so far made me about double the money this year compared to last year (pre-BF that is) because one of my bigger sites ranked for multiple keywords. This was a Spring/Summer kw and those are dying fast now!

      But my CB and CJ sites, which are my main bread winners on a regular month, hold their positions. You probably know that I lost one of my main CJ sites that brought in 2-3K/month to Panda 2.2. But other than that others are doing alright. No I haven't added content to them in a long time, but my outsources build backlinks!

      The other day I unsubscribed from a bunch of monthly subscriptions (e.g. SENUKE) because I simply have to make that difficult decision to sort out my priorities. And my priorities are not IM the rest of the year. I think I must have spent a good 100+ hours on this thread as well. Can't afford to spend those hours without $$ anymore! I'll probably 'lock' this thread soon. I don't like it when others ignore my questions, probably others wouldn't appreciate when I ignore theirs! Right now, I try not to check this thread more than once every 3-4 days! The less I bump it, the less questions I get
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      • Profile picture of the author J smith
        Awesome thread Chucky, a ton of great info. However it seems like some of the links (like wp plug ins) have been outdated and in some cases lead to nothing (like the paid pinger plug in, just leads to a site but I couldn't find the plug in there) . If you are aware of those things not being available anymore, can you list what alternatives you are using?

        Also, what makes comission junction so good? I remember it was quite popular (back when I was looking into IM some 3 years ago) but I sort of drifted towards cpa offers.
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        • Profile picture of the author amarketing
          Chucky, thanks for your reply.

          I've got another question I came up with while building this site.

          You said that in your footer you put external links to sites like Wikipedia, About, news sites, etc. and that you nofollow them.

          My question is, what should I use for my anchor text? Can/should they all have the same anchor text, like they all say "cheap tractor parts"? Should I put "Keyword Wikipedia," "Keyword CNN"? Also, should I change the keywords like "best KEYWORD" "KEYWORD IDEAS"? I'm only referring to external links with these questions.

          I know you are busy, so get to the questions when you can. If anyone else has input, please feel free to comment.

          Thanks all.
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          • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
            Hey Chucky. I haven't written in a while. I hope all is going well with you. I have a question regarding article marketing to generate links for a website. How much importance do you put on article marketing? I am very new to this and know there is a correct systematic approach to article marketing. Could you provide that information or suggest someone or something that provides that information. Thanks again for all that you have put into this thread.
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            • Profile picture of the author baby_butler2002
              sorry if i miss it but whats themes do you use
              thanks chucky
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              • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

                Chucky, thanks for your reply.

                I've got another question I came up with while building this site.

                You said that in your footer you put external links to sites like Wikipedia, About, news sites, etc. and that you nofollow them.

                My question is, what should I use for my anchor text? Can/should they all have the same anchor text, like they all say "cheap tractor parts"? Should I put "Keyword Wikipedia," "Keyword CNN"? Also, should I change the keywords like "best KEYWORD" "KEYWORD IDEAS"? I'm only referring to external links with these questions.

                I know you are busy, so get to the questions when you can. If anyone else has input, please feel free to comment.

                Thanks all.
                Hi,

                Actually starting recently, I also embed these external links inside paragraphs (not just the footer). I have not been strict with making them nofollow. May be you can have them dofollow at the beginning and once your positions stabilize you can make them nofollow, but that's down the road, not at the beginning.

                No, do NOT use any anchor text that you want to rank for. You already have enough competition. If your site is about small tractor parts, you can link out to Wikipedia saying "Gardening equipment related article on Wikipedia" I know the example I picked is long, but you get the idea!

                Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

                Hey Chucky. I haven't written in a while. I hope all is going well with you. I have a question regarding article marketing to generate links for a website. How much importance do you put on article marketing? I am very new to this and know there is a correct systematic approach to article marketing. Could you provide that information or suggest someone or something that provides that information. Thanks again for all that you have put into this thread.
                Jimmy
                With regard to the TOP article directories, I would submit articles manually. As for the regular article directories (e.g. those submitted to by AMR - article marketing robot), I mainly use them as Tier 2 to add power to my Tier 1 backlinks.

                People like Terry Kyle say if you are getting a link from a PR5 domain, whether it happens to be from a new article (PR 0 page) or profile link (you can write a small blurb and get a contextual link sometimes) the link credit is the same. Why write 500 words and worry about all the guidelines when you don't have to deal with it in case of profile links? This is what he said Pre-Panda, I don't know if he has changed his opinion since.

                My tip is, don't optimize the article for the keyword you want to rank for because the article can potentially rank better than you because of domain authority. But post-Panda, I don't see many articles in top positions, so that may not be a problem anymore.

                In addition to article marketing, also look at press releases. I feel they are more powerful than articles.

                Whether it's articles or PRs, make sure you strengthen them by building more (inferior links) to them.

                Hope that helps!

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                sorry if i miss it but whats themes do you use
                thanks chucky
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                • Profile picture of the author RayW
                  Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

                  I mainly use them as Tier 2 to add power to my Tier 1 backlinks.
                  What's the point of creating 2 tier backlinks? A lot of the PR you're getting from the tier 2 links is being wasted on the links (other than your money site backlink) on your tier 1 pages. Seems like an awful waste of PR...
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                • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
                  good luck with the WSO, heaven knows you deserve to make a little after everything you've given us on this thread.
                  i'd buy it myself, but i'm so busy setting up the 20 or so domains i bought after reading your info here, that i'm frightened of burn out

                  anyway, wanted to let you know that my first commissions are trickling in and apart from your wise words, I have to say, I'm freaking out by how good a cocktail of PixelPipes, PingFM and OnlyWire are working for posts with a single kw, at the moment.

                  I'm seeing posts on a 3 month old blog bossing national newpapers, authority sites and even Amazon itself.

                  Can I suggest readers have a play with these 3 free services.

                  Don'y worry about setting the accounts up yourself, there are peeps on Fiverr, who'll do it for you.

                  But used in comination, and with a little added lurve and attention Google is loving it.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
                    Originally Posted by PeckhamPirate View Post

                    good luck with the WSO, heaven knows you deserve to make a little after everything you've given us on this thread.
                    i'd buy it myself, but i'm so busy setting up the 20 or so domains i bought after reading your info here, that i'm frightened of burn out

                    anyway, wanted to let you know that my first commissions are trickling in and apart from your wise words, I have to say, I'm freaking out by how good a cocktail of PixelPipes, PingFM and OnlyWire are working for posts with a single kw, at the moment.

                    I'm seeing posts on a 3 month old blog bossing national newpapers, authority sites and even Amazon itself.

                    Can I suggest readers have a play with these 3 free services.

                    Don'y worry about setting the accounts up yourself, there are peeps on Fiverr, who'll do it for you.

                    But used in comination, and with a little added lurve and attention Google is loving it.
                    Hey thanks!

                    It's not necessarily for the money I'm doing it! I made a 'declaration' to myself that I WILL enter the IM niche by hook or crook in 2011 Also, if you go to the warriorforum homepage, you see that this section (SEO/Adsense/PPC) only has about 300-400 viewers at any given time. In contrast the WSO section has 3 - 5K. When I saw that, I couldn't resists it and took it on in spite of my crazy schedule. I finished the project (page 1 ranking within a month) in July, but couldn't finish the 'product' till October But I did it !

                    Did you buy Rajiv Abbas' social pipes? I did, but haven't put it to use yet. But after reading your post, I think I'm going to. I have been using PingFM for years, Sean Donahoe product where there is this firefox button that posts any post/page to PingFM. But I haven't used it in combination with PixelPipe and OnlyWire. I think I will now... starting this weekend!

                    Thanks!
                    Chucky

                    P.S. I think I should change my sig as well
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                    • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
                      @chucky
                      I had to buy the Social Pipes and initially the results were spectacular. I ranked for a UK pre Christmas Book sales event above 3 of our top newspapers and Amazon.co.uk. plus I'm still there.

                      Also, just for an experiment, and I'm not proud that I popped an affy link in there at the end but I had to, a post I wrote withinin minutes of Steve Jobs' death breaking on the BBC, ranked after half an hour and held page 1 for at least two or three hours, as the big guns (CNN, AC, Reuters et al) rolled out.

                      But Social Pipes is riddled with problems at the moment, and it's not been posting properly since v1.3. PIngFM and OnlyWire are changing and trying to block stuff like this, but hopefully they'll sort things out soon, because when those Pipes fire...

                      Let's just hope they have it fixed for ThanksGiving
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      • Profile picture of the author RayW
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        That site ranked #1-5 for multiple product name keywords. e.g. Not just "Gifts for her" but "specific gift name best deals" kind of phrase and also "specific gift name black friday deals". I think I already mentioned that on the very first post.
        Ok, Chucky, I think this will be my last question (i promise! lol): For the main keyword that site was targeting, could you check its exact average monthly searches on google keyword tool?
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  • Profile picture of the author guzpra
    Hi Chucky,

    I know I've been in internet marketing for some months and I wanna try some affiliates like amazon, clickbank etc..

    and I know when reading this post I have to follow your steps! thx for sharing here
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  • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
    Very smart, and extremely patient and diligent in coming up with such a post...
    Important characteristics of a successful SEO specialist
    Congratulations.
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    • Profile picture of the author mittel
      Hi Chuck, thanks for the great informational post about seo.

      Could you tell me if you use a static page on your homepage about the main keyword with full post or just different posts with excerpts?

      Another question regarding setting up 5 sites with 5 different keywords.
      So i need to have one primary keyword that will be the main keyword right?The main keyword if possible as an EMD.
      And beside that i will need 4 other keywords. So for each site i will have different main keyword? please explain
      thanks
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    Did the site (your baby) that got kicked

    ever recover its ranking?
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  • Profile picture of the author jackwebson
    What a great information! Your write up is definitely worth reading for. I've learned so much from it and also I would like to congratulate for your IM success.
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  • Profile picture of the author wanzu
    Hi Chucky,

    Thanks for your post. This is really helpful. I am still a newbie in IM, so i'm going to follow your guideline here.

    Still reading page 1
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  • Profile picture of the author brightgravity
    chucky, great post.. I see this one is still going strong
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by brightgravity View Post

      chucky, great post.. I see this one is still going strong
      Hey what a great service you have in your sig there!

      That comes to 60 cents/post right? I think I'm going to PM you right away!
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  • Profile picture of the author Velant
    Hi Chucky,

    It's a great, great thread and I can't thank you enough for the great things that you do here. I am still going throught the thread as I want to read it all and then maybe ask you some questions, if you dfon't mind. I also have a few comments on what I've read already, but I will hold on to them until I've read the whole story

    Please continue to share as we all benefit it from it greatly!

    Talk soon
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  • Profile picture of the author mahmoud747
    Hey Chucky
    I really want to learn advanced seo strategies such as tier 1 and tier 2 backlinks and what sites to use in each one (web2.0 or article directories or bookmarks ) and what software to use in each one , can you say it here or you coverd that in your WSO ?
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  • Profile picture of the author guzpra
    hey Chucky, I followed your method here and my website for the secondary keyword is already rank on page 2 while for main keyword is at page 4 after 2 weeks!

    I think the Onpage factors played a huge role here, and I'm aiming first page within this month!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by Velant View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      It's a great, great thread and I can't thank you enough for the great things that you do here. I am still going throught the thread as I want to read it all and then maybe ask you some questions, if you dfon't mind. I also have a few comments on what I've read already, but I will hold on to them until I've read the whole story

      Please continue to share as we all benefit it from it greatly!

      Talk soon
      Thanks buddy! Bring on those questions!

      Originally Posted by mahmoud747 View Post

      Hey Chucky
      I really want to learn advanced seo strategies such as tier 1 and tier 2 backlinks and what sites to use in each one (web2.0 or article directories or bookmarks ) and what software to use in each one , can you say it here or you coverd that in your WSO ?
      No I don't cover that in the WSO, but I gave you an answer there on the WSO thread. You should be able to find that info here also!

      Originally Posted by guzpra View Post

      hey Chucky, I followed your method here and my website for the secondary keyword is already rank on page 2 while for main keyword is at page 4 after 2 weeks!

      I think the Onpage factors played a huge role here, and I'm aiming first page within this month!
      Great news! Yup if you have your on page factors properly configured, your off page efforts become halved! Don't push it too much, as that can bring on some Google dance effect sometimes. Aiming for 6 weeks may be safer depending on what steps you take. Go for quality backlinks over quantity!
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      • Profile picture of the author Velant
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        Thanks buddy! Bring on those questions!
        OK, here is a quick one - I saw you mentioned on the thread that you used Google wonderwheel for LSI/secondary keywords, but it has now been discontinued.
        What alternatives do you use now?

        I've seen WSO on a replacement tool on warrior a few weeks ago, but didn't go for it.

        P.S. Btw, I bought your wso and am going to drill down through it in the next few days.
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by Velant View Post

          OK, here is a quick one - I saw you mentioned on the thread that you used Google wonderwheel for LSI/secondary keywords, but it has now been discontinued.
          What alternatives do you use now?

          I've seen WSO on a replacement tool on warrior a few weeks ago, but didn't go for it.

          P.S. Btw, I bought your wso and am going to drill down through it in the next few days.
          Hey, thanks! I'm sure you're going to find value in there!

          Wonderwheel is no more, that's right! There are 2 free options that I use. First, on the Google search results page, on the left hand side 'sidebar' there is something like 'more search tools' and when you click on it and expand it, there is something called 'related searches'. I'll be honest, those related searches don't always sound related to me!

          Secondly, Google Adwords Keyword Tool - once you do a search, the results are automatically sorted by relevance. You also have the option of sorting it by local/global search volume etc. When you sort it by relevance, you will see that the phrases are really similar. But you want to avoid using phrases that are too similar. For example, if when I type in "best XXX YYY" it gives me "what is the best XXX YYY", "which is the best XXX YYY", "the best XXX YYY", etc. etc. at the top. In my mind, those are too similar and if you word your titles properly you should be able to get the same post ranked for all those different phrases. So I would go further down the list and pick something that makes sense to me. I may pick something from the above 'very similar list' if I see a huge potential, otherwise I would pick something less similar.

          I of course use MNF and the phrases that look rankable competition wise depending on the SOC and search volume. Hope it makes sense!
          Chucky
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          • Profile picture of the author Velant
            Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

            Hey, thanks! I'm sure you're going to find value in there!

            Wonderwheel is no more, that's right! There are 2 free options that I use. First, on the Google search results page, on the left hand side 'sidebar' there is something like 'more search tools' and when you click on it and expand it, there is something called 'related searches'....

            Secondly, Google Adwords Keyword Tool - once you do a search, the results are automatically sorted by relevance...

            I of course use MNF and the phrases that look rankable competition wise depending on the SOC and search volume. Hope it makes sense!
            Chucky
            Yep, the second tip should work better I would think, thank you! I've been using MNF myself for quite a while now, but it as far as know it uses Google adwords Kw tool, so it's just convenience and interface, whereas data sources are essentially the same.

            Also, Chuck, what's the best way to ask you questions on the Dead Simple SEO course - in the WSO thread, here, in the membership site comments or by email?

            thanks and good luck!
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            • Profile picture of the author Chucky
              Originally Posted by Velant View Post

              Yep, the second tip should work better I would think, thank you! I've been using MNF myself for quite a while now, but it as far as know it uses Google adwords Kw tool, so it's just convenience and interface, whereas data sources are essentially the same.

              Also, Chuck, what's the best way to ask you questions on the Dead Simple SEO course - in the WSO thread, here, in the membership site comments or by email?

              thanks and good luck!
              Bring them up on the main module pages. I think that's the best option! You know the drop down menu on the far right hand corner, that's the one! That way others who have the same questions get to see them! I check those pages everyday after coming back from work!

              Chucky
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              • Profile picture of the author Velant
                Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

                Bring them up on the main module pages. I think that's the best option! You know the drop down menu on the far right hand corner, that's the one! That way others who have the same questions get to see them! I check those pages everyday after coming back from work!

                Chucky
                Hi Chucky,

                I have read ~70% of this thread (downloaded to my kindle and read it as ebook, lol )) and went thru all the comments to videos and watched ~30% of your videos from the WSO. The reason I am saying this is that now I can't be 100% sure what questions were stumulated by this thread and which by your WSO.

                So I'll try posting question strictly related to WSO at the membership site as you suggested, but more general questions here to get this thread going, if that's alright with you?

                Now, I'd like to ask you a few questions here please:

                1. Sticky Posts. I've noticed you talked about advantages of sticking some posts to the home page. When you do this, do you noindex the post page? If not, I believe you realise that this will create dupe content. Please comment on this.

                2. Post Scheduling. You also talk about scheduling your posts for new blog and blocking search engines until the site is fully loaded with initial set of content (5 articles or so). What's the point of scheduling if you block SEs anyway? Why not just upload everything and then allow the SE bots?
                (sorry if I've got the wrong, but that's the impression that I have after reading the thread and/or watching your videos)

                3. Hosting Multiple Sites. In this thread you wrote somewhere that you have 50+ websites, some of which get ~20K of traffic on BF and/or Christmas. This is surely too much to handle by shared server. Do you use dedicated servers for some of your sites and (if yes) with which provider?

                Also, if you use multiple hosting accounts - how many sites per account do you have?

                Thank you for your time and all the best to you
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  • Profile picture of the author DaveDempsey
    This is an awesome post, thanks for sharing.

    Not only is this ALOT of great content but also very inspiring to people who are wanting to make more $$$ in the world of IM. I really appreciate the time you have taken to write up and share this with us.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by PeckhamPirate View Post

      @chucky
      I had to buy the Social Pipes and initially the results were spectacular. I ranked for a UK pre Christmas Book sales event above 3 of our top newspapers and Amazon.co.uk. plus I'm still there.

      Also, just for an experiment, and I'm not proud that I popped an affy link in there at the end but I had to, a post I wrote withinin minutes of Steve Jobs' death breaking on the BBC, ranked after half an hour and held page 1 for at least two or three hours, as the big guns (CNN, AC, Reuters et al) rolled out.

      But Social Pipes is riddled with problems at the moment, and it's not been posting properly since v1.3. PIngFM and OnlyWire are changing and trying to block stuff like this, but hopefully they'll sort things out soon, because when those Pipes fire...

      Let's just hope they have it fixed for ThanksGiving
      You're making me really impatient! Off to Fiverr right away to order a set up accounts and yes I sure hope it gets fixed before thanksgiving

      Originally Posted by DaveDempsey View Post

      This is an awesome post, thanks for sharing.

      Not only is this ALOT of great content but also very inspiring to people who are wanting to make more $$$ in the world of IM. I really appreciate the time you have taken to write up and share this with us.
      Thank you Dave, it's really encouraging to see comments like that! Hope you find some good nuggets here!
      Chucky
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      • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
        [QUOTE=Chucky;4829727]You're making me really impatient! Off to Fiverr right away to order a set up accounts and yes I sure hope it gets fixed before thanksgiving

        2 iPads, an iPod and a couple of Stve Jobs biographies
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          Originally Posted by mahmoud747 View Post

          Hi Chucky
          I came here mainly to thank you for very helpful advice and you membership site is very amazing, alot of stuff i learned from it
          You're most welcome Mahmood!

          Originally Posted by Jasonsc View Post

          Thanks for dedicating so much time to this thread. Much appreciated.

          I wanted to ask, have you any opinions on the panda update?
          I got hit by Panda... 2-3K/month gone and still couldn't recover

          I initially thought it was my best site because it had 40 posts and all, but when I dug deeper I found that about the 1st 10-20 posts I made (about 3 years ago) were really crappy - no on page optimization, copy and paste articles from Ezine articles, no images, no header tags, no internal linking etc. etc. I only remembered about the new posts I made. With Panda, even a couple of bad pages can impact your 'site score' and the whole site will be punished! Once I learned the real nature of my site, I was asking myself 'what took Google so long'. Long story short - don't add anything other than value to the web!

          [quote=PeckhamPirate;4833231]
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

          You're making me really impatient! Off to Fiverr right away to order a set up accounts and yes I sure hope it gets fixed before thanksgiving

          2 iPads, an iPod and a couple of Stve Jobs biographies
          You got to be kidding me! You ROCK man!

          Anyways, still waiting for the profiles to be created! The formula is really simple isn't it? You take action - you get rewarded.
          You resisted buying my WSO and stuck with what was already working for you. You didn't jump from one shiny object to the other! And now you're teaching me your method! Thanks buddy!
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  • Profile picture of the author mahmoud747
    Hi Chucky
    I came here mainly to thank you for very helpful advice and you membership site is very amazing, alot of stuff i learned from it
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    Thanks for dedicating so much time to this thread. Much appreciated.

    I wanted to ask, have you any opinions on the panda update?
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    Ha! What a long post, all I could say is Thank God for you
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  • Profile picture of the author mungos
    I'm impressed. You really do your homework and your attention to detail is staggering. I am going to refer to your post to ehance my knowledge and improve my own sites.

    Thanks a lot Chucky
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  • Profile picture of the author kulonuwun
    valuable SEO strategies. i know SEO but some of your information give me inspiration to do SEO better. well done!
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    • Profile picture of the author gregw2
      Hi.
      I just want to add my thanks to the multitude.

      I noticed that you have mentioned that you do not use AdWords except for observation and pricing. I am assuming that you have an account.

      I lost my account when Google purged many affiliates and I had to open a new one. I seldom use it but it is handy for many things. The sad thing is that they kept the money that I had in the account when they closed it, unlike Yahoo. Yahoo sent me a check when they changed their system. Google never even sent me a picture of a middle finger or anything.

      I started buying domains as early as 2004 with the intention of making them into marketing sites, but I parked all 40 of them for a long time. It is interesting how we all progress and change with discovery and knowledge.

      Blogging really excites me. The marketing potential is one thing, but the creativity is quite another. I have been actively blogging now for over 4 years and I am continuing to learn new things all of the time.

      This thread is a learning tool. You and many of the posters have made it so. You have shown all of us very much. I have learned some things of value that I have not come across in any eBook, manual, or exchange in other forums. This is very admirable of you to give out so much of your learned knowledge, and to keep the responses going for months.

      I just want to convey my personal appreciation and thanks.

      I have read to page 13 and skipped to the end to add my two cents.

      Thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author sud825
    I spend 5 hours reading each posts up to the 15 pages and well done with your advices and now I should do“TAKING ACTION”.

    In the past (2007-2009) I made good income online doing, clickbank as vendor (made almost 600 sales) and affiliate, earn 30$ a day with Adsense for one of my website.

    But one day I fall into the wheel doing buying products I’ve never been use (sometime I buy a product and I found I’ve already bought the product in the past), I’ve lost 7k using freelancer to create an email marketing website and a similar website to clickbank and I was never be able to launch one of them because I knew nothing about “coding stuff” and a day I found “my custom script” I paid was a script that can be bought 500$ online and without this “so incredible discovery by doing nothing good project management” resulting in more money losing straight too garbage.

    And I paid so much for creating ebook, articles, seo-services, bought too much domains etc.. One positive thing with this than I can use all those stuff and focus one project at the time.

    I still make few online income with some of my products (French market) but I back online one month ago when I saw a outlook backup showing hundred messages about I’ve made sales / affiliate income.

    Since I got my software developer degrees i know the “coding” stuff in both side and I have a better toolbox. Also I’m avoid doing 45 projects in the same time without getting one of them completed.

    So congratulation and it what a real pleasure reading this thread.

    And if I can help someone with html, php, css, C#, vb.net and french stuff I will be glad to help you like Chucky
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by gregw2 View Post

      Hi.
      I just want to add my thanks to the multitude.

      I noticed that you have mentioned that you do not use AdWords except for observation and pricing. I am assuming that you have an account.

      I lost my account when Google purged many affiliates and I had to open a new one. I seldom use it but it is handy for many things. The sad thing is that they kept the money that I had in the account when they closed it, unlike Yahoo. Yahoo sent me a check when they changed their system. Google never even sent me a picture of a middle finger or anything.

      I just want to convey my personal appreciation and thanks.

      I have read to page 13 and skipped to the end to add my two cents.

      Thanks again.
      Hey, thank you for the kind words!

      Wow, Google kept the money? That's mean!!

      So you were not using a cc to pay and instead prepaid them?

      Originally Posted by Velant View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      I have read ~70% of this thread (downloaded to my kindle and read it as ebook, lol )) and went thru all the comments to videos and watched ~30% of your videos from the WSO. The reason I am saying this is that now I can't be 100% sure what questions were stumulated by this thread and which by your WSO.

      So I'll try posting question strictly related to WSO at the membership site as you suggested, but more general questions here to get this thread going, if that's alright with you?

      Now, I'd like to ask you a few questions here please:

      1. Sticky Posts. I've noticed you talked about advantages of sticking some posts to the home page. When you do this, do you noindex the post page? If not, I believe you realise that this will create dupe content. Please comment on this.

      2. Post Scheduling. You also talk about scheduling your posts for new blog and blocking search engines until the site is fully loaded with initial set of content (5 articles or so). What's the point of scheduling if you block SEs anyway? Why not just upload everything and then allow the SE bots?
      (sorry if I've got the wrong, but that's the impression that I have after reading the thread and/or watching your videos)

      3. Hosting Multiple Sites. In this thread you wrote somewhere that you have 50+ websites, some of which get ~20K of traffic on BF and/or Christmas. This is surely too much to handle by shared server. Do you use dedicated servers for some of your sites and (if yes) with which provider?

      Also, if you use multiple hosting accounts - how many sites per account do you have?

      Thank you for your time and all the best to you
      Hey, thanks for the questions! Yes it's fine to do it that way!

      As for the sticky post, I've seen many people raising the same question as you do and a lot of people say it is NOT an issue and Google knows to discount that 'duplicate' copy. But I know that is not a proper answer.

      I just checked my older sites (with 1 sticky) and newer sites (with >1 sticky on the homepage). At least the titles and meta description were different, although the homepage title and sticky post title essentially led to the same content (in case of those with 1 sticky).

      I'm sorry, I can't give you a more definitive answer here. I have not had problems doing it, but then again, if I used a static page instead of a sticky post, may be I would get page 1 with even less effort? I don't know!! If this bugs you, you can use a static page instead of sticky post, which I also do sometimes (only because OptimizePress gives a lot more options with pages than with posts). What I have noticed when I use a static page is that Google does NOT index that page URL as a separate page (I think - I'm new to using static pages). With static pages I feel that you lose that page. mydomainname.com/keyword-rich-static-page is virtually non-existent! I can't build links to it if it is optimized differently than the homepage. I can build links, but they get redirected to the homepage? As you can see, there is a lot I don't know about static pages. On a positive point, I have seen John Reese recommending using static pages but as I cover inside Dead Simple Killer SEO, your 'pages' won't show up on your RSS feed!

      The 2nd one, you misunderstood! I keep it blocked only till the site configurations are done properly and I remove the blockade just before publishing the 1st post. I remember covering that specifically in the videos - may be video 2 of publishing content

      #3: Nope it never was an issue. May be because of the caching plugin. 20K (probably more if you take the whole month) was just 1 website: 50 websites X 20K visitors, I would have quit graduate school long time ago

      How many sites per account? I have 2 reseller accounts and probably close to 100 domains may be 70 in one and 30 in the other. But may be 10 of them get considerable traffic (100+/day). Every once in a while I get an email saying 80% bandwidth reached and I would go and increase it by 1000MB and that's it. I think it's unlimited and limited only if you receive a ton of traffic!

      Hope that helped!
      Chucky

      Originally Posted by sud825 View Post

      I spend 5 hours reading each posts up to the 15 pages and well done with your advices and now I should do"TAKING ACTION".

      In the past (2007-2009) I made good income online doing, clickbank as vendor (made almost 600 sales) and affiliate, earn 30$ a day with Adsense for one of my website.

      But one day I fall into the wheel doing buying products I've never been use (sometime I buy a product and I found I've already bought the product in the past), I've lost 7k using freelancer to create an email marketing website and a similar website to clickbank and I was never be able to launch one of them because I knew nothing about "coding stuff" and a day I found "my custom script" I paid was a script that can be bought 500$ online and without this "so incredible discovery by doing nothing good project management" resulting in more money losing straight too garbage.

      And I paid so much for creating ebook, articles, seo-services, bought too much domains etc.. One positive thing with this than I can use all those stuff and focus one project at the time.

      I still make few online income with some of my products (French market) but I back online one month ago when I saw a outlook backup showing hundred messages about I've made sales / affiliate income.

      Since I got my software developer degrees i know the "coding" stuff in both side and I have a better toolbox. Also I'm avoid doing 45 projects in the same time without getting one of them completed.

      So congratulation and it what a real pleasure reading this thread.

      And if I can help someone with html, php, css, C#, vb.net and french stuff I will be glad to help you like Chucky
      Wow 5 hours! Thank you! And yes, it's up to 'Taking action' now, which is what is going to be your true learning! Aha, we've all lost money, we've all been scammed.. that's just how it is I think. The 80/20 rule always wins. 80% of what we do go wasted and only 20% of what we do gives us true results and sometimes I feel its like a 95/5 rule

      Thank you for your kind offer!
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      • Profile picture of the author Velant
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        Hey, thanks for the questions! Yes it's fine to do it that way!

        As for the sticky post, I've seen many people raising the same question as you do and a lot of people say it is NOT an issue and Google knows to discount that 'duplicate' copy. But I know that is not a proper answer.

        I just checked my older sites (with 1 sticky) and newer sites (with >1 sticky on the homepage). At least the titles and meta description were different, although the homepage title and sticky post title essentially led to the same content (in case of those with 1 sticky).

        I'm sorry, I can't give you a more definitive answer here. I have not had problems doing it, but then again, if I used a static page instead of a sticky post, may be I would get page 1 with even less effort? I don't know!! If this bugs you, you can use a static page instead of sticky post, which I also do sometimes (only because OptimizePress gives a lot more options with pages than with posts). What I have noticed when I use a static page is that Google does NOT index that page URL as a separate page (I think - I'm new to using static pages). With static pages I feel that you lose that page. mydomainname.com/keyword-rich-static-page is virtually non-existent! I can't build links to it if it is optimized differently than the homepage. I can build links, but they get redirected to the homepage? As you can see, there is a lot I don't know about static pages. On a positive point, I have seen John Reese recommending using static pages but as I cover inside Dead Simple Killer SEO, your 'pages' won't show up on your RSS feed!

        The 2nd one, you misunderstood! I keep it blocked only till the site configurations are done properly and I remove the blockade just before publishing the 1st post. I remember covering that specifically in the videos - may be video 2 of publishing content

        #3: Nope it never was an issue. May be because of the caching plugin. 20K (probably more if you take the whole month) was just 1 website: 50 websites X 20K visitors, I would have quit graduate school long time ago

        How many sites per account? I have 2 reseller accounts and probably close to 100 domains may be 70 in one and 30 in the other. But may be 10 of them get considerable traffic (100+/day). Every once in a while I get an email saying 80% bandwidth reached and I would go and increase it by 1000MB and that's it. I think it's unlimited and limited only if you receive a ton of traffic!

        Hope that helped!
        Chucky
        Thanks Chucky, that ceratainly helps

        1 and 2 are now clear, I won't bother with dupe content, It probably isn't an issue then.

        With regard to hosting - I thought you mentioned on the thread you had 20K per day (not per month) on some of you big money makers before BF or Xmas, that's where confusion came from.

        So I understand you only have shared hosting for all your sites and about 10 sites with traffic 100+ bring you 6 figure income? Wow, that's amazing - you must have crazy conversions on your sites, congrats! ))) Is that 6 figures a month or a year?

        One more question please (let's call it no.4 for convenience)
        4. You seem to be actively advocating Social ADR bookmarking service in the wso - do you see any noticeable boost in rankings and/or traffic after submissions? If not, how do you know it really does you any good?

        I am asking this, cos I have been using social bookmarks for several years (both paid services and software), but I never saw anything more substantial from them than just sped up indexing, and that's precisely what I use them for.
        I know you mentioned in the videos that Soc. ADR posts manually on aged accounts etc., but if it's only for improved indexing is it really worth $117/month??? (or even $17/month, which is their cheapest package as far as I know).

        Thank you
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      • Profile picture of the author gregw2
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        Hey, thank you for the kind words!

        Wow, Google kept the money? That's mean!!

        So you were not using a cc to pay and instead prepaid them?
        My AdWords account was set up prior to 2007 and I just added funds to it periodically. I generally added the funds after a series of affiliate product sales.

        Most of my sales were in the weight loss market and 2 other high traffic markets.
        When the purge happened it happened to thousands of affiliate marketers, and all of the accounts were frozen. I do not know if anyone received any of their account funds back from Google. I do not think so.

        I was one of the last to have their account frozen, and I thought that I was immune because I was not marketing any scam or questionable products, but not so. I lost my account and funds too.

        It taught me a valuable lesson and it soured me on Google. I no longer put all of my focus into one aspect of marketing now, it is safer. I also do not make as much income either.

        This is why I love blogging. I have experimented with various aspects of it and have not come to any conclusions that are definitive and guaranteed to be long lasting.

        I have gone about it in my own way and it is arduous and mistake riddled, but I learn.

        Your approach is somewhat different and really needs to be looked at carefully. I really do like it and hope that it proves to be an excellent system for many.

        I am purchasing your WSO so that all of it will be in one place and easier to examine. I advise anyone who reads this thread and likes it to do the same. The price cannot be beat.

        My only apprehension is that I do not like videos for the primary learning tool. I am a reader and like the eBook format over video. I know that I am probably in a minority.

        If someday in the future you decide to make an eBook with all of the pertinent information I will be one of the first to buy it. It could be your next project if you need one.

        I am a professional writer in English and if you need assistance I can offer it.

        Thanks again for such a wonderful thread and all of the follow up. Your time is the most valuable asset that you have in marketing and you have given it to a lot of people for free. It is highly commendable and is something that you share that can never be taken away.

        Again, I urge anyone reading this thread to check the WSO thread too:

        http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...figures-2.html
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by gregw2 View Post

          My AdWords account was set up prior to 2007 and I just added funds to it periodically. I generally added the funds after a series of affiliate product sales.

          Most of my sales were in the weight loss market and 2 other high traffic markets.
          When the purge happened it happened to thousands of affiliate marketers, and all of the accounts were frozen. I do not know if anyone received any of their account funds back from Google. I do not think so.

          I was one of the last to have their account frozen, and I thought that I was immune because I was not marketing any scam or questionable products, but not so. I lost my account and funds too.

          It taught me a valuable lesson and it soured me on Google. I no longer put all of my focus into one aspect of marketing now, it is safer. I also do not make as much income either.

          This is why I love blogging. I have experimented with various aspects of it and have not come to any conclusions that are definitive and guaranteed to be long lasting.

          I have gone about it in my own way and it is arduous and mistake riddled, but I learn.

          Your approach is somewhat different and really needs to be looked at carefully. I really do like it and hope that it proves to be an excellent system for many.

          I am purchasing your WSO so that all of it will be in one place and easier to examine. I advise anyone who reads this thread and likes it to do the same. The price cannot be beat.

          My only apprehension is that I do not like videos for the primary learning tool. I am a reader and like the eBook format over video. I know that I am probably in a minority.

          If someday in the future you decide to make an eBook with all of the pertinent information I will be one of the first to buy it. It could be your next project if you need one.

          I am a professional writer in English and if you need assistance I can offer it.

          Thanks again for such a wonderful thread and all of the follow up. Your time is the most valuable asset that you have in marketing and you have given it to a lot of people for free. It is highly commendable and is something that you share that can never be taken away.

          Again, I urge anyone reading this thread to check the WSO thread too:

          http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...figures-2.html
          Hey, thanks for the props! I really appreciate that. Thank you for purchasing and I hope you found value in the package.

          I do cover a few new things inside the WSO (I had to give something that wasn't covered here, if I was going to charge $ ), but the free information here is more than enough for anybody that wants to get started and doesn't want to spend the money.

          I'll be honest, I too don't like videos simply because you cannot fast forward 'em. I felt guilty when people said they watched 5 hours of video on my WSO. I don't have that kind of time in my schedule and I'm sure a lot of people don't either. I have made notes on most places, but most of the time they are not sufficient by themselves.

          I will definitely keep your offer in mind, thanks (when I do a global launch and thanks for the little education on Adwords as well!

          Chucky
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  • Profile picture of the author guzpra
    Hey Chucky, now I need to booost my offpage campaign a lot because 2 of my 2nd kw stuck at 8-10th position and my primary at 20th! any suggestion?
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  • Profile picture of the author J R Salem
    I have been on this forum for awhile, and lurked before, and can't believe I never found this thread. If only I found it a few years ago before I learned everything on my own!

    Nice work man!
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  • Profile picture of the author mahmoud747
    Hi Chucky
    Did you notice dropping in rankings for some of your sites after last G update ?.. if yes, what do you recommend to recover from this ?
    Thanks In Advance
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  • Profile picture of the author fdes
    Hi Chuky,

    I am a newbie in the field of IM. The only thin I can do is to make a very simple blog. And since I have started making a blog, I also want to earn money in creating a website but I really don't have an idea on how and where to start and what are the things I really should take in to considerations. After reading your thread, I feel a little dizzy and surprise with the number of things I need note in able to be successful.

    Any suggestion where to start? or I really need to go through the guide you have posted here?

    BR,
    Fernan
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    • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
      start at the beginning of this thread

      that's about the best starting point you could get...
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  • Profile picture of the author Velant
    Hi Chucky,

    Hope you are doing alright.
    I was trying to post a question on optimising page load speed (W3 total cache plugin) on your membership site under the relevant video Site Building part 7, but there is no way to leave a comment. Please let me know where is the best place to post it?

    thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Illuminations
    My jaw literally dropped when I saw this thread. Really amazing! How I wish I could do the same. I just bookmarked this thread or future reference. Thanks, mate.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Chucky did any of your sites get hit by the oct panda
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by raxr View Post

      Hey Chucky, I made my first three amazon sales on one of the amazon sites I put up back in august after reading this thread! I was targeting black friday/christmas shopping keywords like you suggested. Hopefully I'll make many more sales in the next two months

      Now I'm interested in monetizing with CJ. Chucky, what kind of products do you promote w/ CJ? I guess you can't use product name domains to promote CJ products since the advertisers probably won't accept your site...
      First of all congrats! If you take action, even if it ain't perfect, you get results! And hopefully BP will be 100s of times better for you this year and you would know what to do next year!

      I'm basically in 1 good niche with CJ and I'm sorry I can't give any hints whatsoever !! I will say one thing but I doubt it will be of any help at all. It's a niche of desperation, people WILL spend money because they're desperate!

      Originally Posted by guzpra View Post

      Hey Chucky, now I need to booost my offpage campaign a lot because 2 of my 2nd kw stuck at 8-10th position and my primary at 20th! any suggestion?
      Link diversity (I have a post about it here) Have you done any videos or press releases or software submissions etc? And there's plenty more I cover there. Also remember not to stop after a single campaign, do at least 2-3 rounds at weekly intervals and you are bound to see results!

      Originally Posted by Jeremy S View Post

      I have been on this forum for awhile, and lurked before, and can't believe I never found this thread. If only I found it a few years ago before I learned everything on my own!

      Nice work man!
      Hey thanks! But I believe this thread is only about 6 months old !

      Originally Posted by mahmoud747 View Post

      Hi Chucky
      Did you notice dropping in rankings for some of your sites after last G update ?.. if yes, what do you recommend to recover from this ?
      Thanks In Advance
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      Chucky did any of your sites get hit by the oct panda
      Gosh I take one weekend off and there was another Panda? I just checked my major sites and all of them are there although I had my site on my WSO disappear on the 11th/12th of October - but that's not Panda, just the Google dance - new site!

      However, I do see a dip in one of my CB accounts - may be inner pages are affected - will check later and confirm.

      So was this another BIG Panda? seems like a ton to catch up!

      Mahmood - one of the best guides I've seen about recovering from Panda is a WSO from a guy named Paul Clifford - don't know if it's still available - but it was very good!

      EDIT: I see that two of my sites have been affected. Both of them had brand names in the domain names. One of them was #2 and the other #1 the last time I checked and today both are #6ish. I think this is the typical pattern others saw also.

      I will admit that I haven't added ANY content to these in years (may be 1 year with one and 2-3 years with the other). I did start building links to them may be 2-3 weeks ago, just to give them some fresh links. I saw someone saying somewhere that fresh domains were pushed down and aged domains gained but I can't see this being the case with these two because both of them are 3+ years old. Funnily, the website that was below me in both examples are still right below me! Almost looks like a -5 penalty to both of us.

      I see there's a lot of talk about it on another thread - should go and educate myself!

      Originally Posted by fdes View Post

      Hi Chuky,

      I am a newbie in the field of IM. The only thin I can do is to make a very simple blog. And since I have started making a blog, I also want to earn money in creating a website but I really don't have an idea on how and where to start and what are the things I really should take in to considerations. After reading your thread, I feel a little dizzy and surprise with the number of things I need note in able to be successful.

      Any suggestion where to start? or I really need to go through the guide you have posted here?

      BR,
      Fernan
      Sorry man, there are no shortcuts! At least nothing that I know of!

      Originally Posted by Velant View Post

      Hi Chucky,

      Hope you are doing alright.
      I was trying to post a question on optimising page load speed (W3 total cache plugin) on your membership site under the relevant video Site Building part 7, but there is no way to leave a comment. Please let me know where is the best place to post it?

      thank you
      It should be on the main MODULE page for 'site building'. On the menu bar, the 2nd from the far right hand corner says something like 'questions/comments' - if you go there, you will see the section for 'site building' or you can email me as well - my email address is there on the same drop down menu! Look forward to answering your question!
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  • Profile picture of the author ashpakochi
    Hi Chucky, thank you very much!
    Your thread really enriches my knowledge and empowers me to start my IM business.
    However, I've a question to ask, could you please advise me on this?

    I am building a site with increasing number of posts.
    In your tutorial of a 5-page site, you stated that there should be 1 sticky post for the theme kw and 4 other posts for 1ry kw. But what if I only have 1 post optimized for the theme kw and all other many posts are for a few 1ry(2~4) or various 1ry(10+), will my ranking in theme kw be affected?

    Or is this okay as long as I include my theme kw in every single posts? And what would be the frequency of the theme kw?

    Thank you very much!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by ashpakochi View Post

      Hi Chucky, thank you very much!
      Your thread really enriches my knowledge and empowers me to start my IM business.
      However, I've a question to ask, could you please advise me on this?

      I am building a site with increasing number of posts.
      In your tutorial of a 5-page site, you stated that there should be 1 sticky post for the theme kw and 4 other posts for 1ry kw. But what if I only have 1 post optimized for the theme kw and all other many posts are for a few 1ry(2~4) or various 1ry(10+), will my ranking in theme kw be affected?

      Or is this okay as long as I include my theme kw in every single posts? And what would be the frequency of the theme kw?

      Thank you very much!
      I think we are both saying the same thing!

      1 post optimized for the theme keyword - which is the sticky post
      4 other posts optimized for other related keywords

      No your rankings will not be affected as long as the other keywords are related.

      If your theme kw is boys bikes and your 2ry kw would be girls bikes, mens bikes and sports bikes, yes you will have problems ranking for your theme kw which is boys bikes. But if your 2ry kw are 12 inch boys bikes, 16 inch boys bikes etc, you won't have a problem ranking for your theme kw.

      On other pages/posts I would have the theme keyword in at least 1 H2 tag, anchor text and 4-5 times/500 word article. And also in the title of the post, meta description, meta kw - I think I mentioned all that in the main on page optimization post!

      Hope that helps!
      Chucky
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  • Profile picture of the author Monthy
    Hello Chucky!

    I have a few questions...

    1. Should we nofollow our sitemaps? Because I've heard many times that Google in fact FOLLOWS nofollow links, all it doesn't do is it doesn't pass pagerank to those pages (in theory, it would be better not to pass pagerank to sitemap, wouldn't it?).

    2. Do you nofollow or noindex category and tags pages? How do you it? And why?

    3. How many blog posts do you allow to appear on the pages where they are listed (i.e., category pages, tag pages, the home page...)? For example, if we set the number of posts to 1, we naturally increase the amount of all pages of our site (category pages and the other pages will be broken down to show only 1 blog post at a time...). How do you this, and why?

    4. Do you use blog post excerpts on your home page, or do you prefer a static page? And why?

    Thank you so much!

    Monthy
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by Monthy View Post

      Hello Chucky!

      I have a few questions...

      1. Should we nofollow our sitemaps? Because I've heard many times that Google in fact FOLLOWS nofollow links, all it doesn't do is it doesn't pass pagerank to those pages (in theory, it would be better not to pass pagerank to sitemap, wouldn't it?).

      2. Do you nofollow or noindex category and tags pages? How do you it? And why?

      3. How many blog posts do you allow to appear on the pages where they are listed (i.e., category pages, tag pages, the home page...)? For example, if we set the number of posts to 1, we naturally increase the amount of all pages of our site (category pages and the other pages will be broken down to show only 1 blog post at a time...). How do you this, and why?

      4. Do you use blog post excerpts on your home page, or do you prefer a static page? And why?

      Thank you so much!

      Monthy
      I see your point, but I make my sitemaps dofollow! Anyway, wouldn't the PR flow back to your site? I have heard that PR goes down when it goes through a link. For example you may only be able to recover 90% of the link juice that goes to your site map.

      You shouldn't nofollow/noindex both category and tag pages (From what I know). I believe many SEO wordpress plugins let you do this.

      No excerpts, sticky posts preferred over static pages - the only justification I have is because posts show up on RSS feeds but pages don't! I don't know if it makes a difference or not! I feel that with excerpts, it's harder to do on page SEO.

      Hope that helps!
      Chucky
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      • Profile picture of the author Monthy
        Thank you!

        One more question:

        How do handle post and page titles? Do you use title of the post only, or do you follow it with something else? For example, if you had a site about French Bulldogs and a post about a sub-breed, say, Brown French Bulldogs, how would you make the post's title - "Brown French Bulldogs", or "Brown French Bulldogs | French Bulldogs"?
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by Monthy View Post

          Thank you!

          One more question:

          How do handle post and page titles? Do you use title of the post only, or do you follow it with something else? For example, if you had a site about French Bulldogs and a post about a sub-breed, say, Brown French Bulldogs, how would you make the post's title - "Brown French Bulldogs", or "Brown French Bulldogs | French Bulldogs"?
          I cover that on the main post!
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  • Profile picture of the author rachel42us
    Thank you very much Chuky for awesome information, very helpful
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    • Profile picture of the author chriscoop
      Hello Chucky,

      When you build websites with with amazon products do you use links, banners or widgets. What is working the best for you?

      I have some websites and just started with amazon products. I have also adsense on the same website. What is better amazon or adsense or maybe both.

      Thanks for your advice
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Come on, cut the guy a break - Chucky's done an amazing job with this thread and with answering 16 pages of discussion with little to gain for himself, I am pretty sure he is NOT holding back the one, single key to your success, it's all in the thread, he's not some guru, it's all common sense stuff. Stop overthinking, start doing, and give Chucky a well-earned rest (so he doesn't screw up his studies)!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author jimmel196
      Hello Chucky. I have an amazon review site. I have been writing articles and posting them to my website first and then to EZA, GoArticles, Squidoo and a few others. I am linking back to my main website from the articles. While linking my latest article on Squidoo, I was advised that I had reached my maximum number of links back to my website, which I believe is 10. What should I link any future content to from any content that I post om Squidoo? Should I link It directly to an amazon product or to another page or piece of content on my main website? I am unsure what to do and would appreciate any advice. Thank you. Jimmy
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      • Profile picture of the author tonis
        Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

        Hello Chucky. I have an amazon review site. I have been writing articles and posting them to my website first and then to EZA, GoArticles, Squidoo and a few others. I am linking back to my main website from the articles. While linking my latest article on Squidoo, I was advised that I had reached my maximum number of links back to my website, which I believe is 10. What should I link any future content to from any content that I post om Squidoo? Should I link It directly to an amazon product or to another page or piece of content on my main website? I am unsure what to do and would appreciate any advice. Thank you. Jimmy
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        Build links to your main article and secondary articles and make sure that the page you link to has a reference to your main article (sales letter):
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          Originally Posted by tonis View Post

          Ask and answer

          Build links to your main article and secondary articles and make sure that the page you link to has a reference to your main article (sales letter):
          Thanks tonis for the information. Jimmy
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    No "Seo Secrets" revealed here lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
    Hi.
    I wonder if anyone can help me, not just you Chcky, but anyone.
    I have a site that after all the recent Panda-risms, is sitting just off page 1 for lots of my keywords.
    I know I need links, but I already have plenty, and most of the sites beating me now are EMDs or variations of EMDs.
    My question is, how can I get back onto page 1.
    Everything's optimisied, everything's nicely interlinked, and as I say, I have high pr, .gov and .edu links a plenty, I even put videos on my pages, but still no movement, and I can't get off page 2 for search terms I used to boss...

    One more thing.
    I have several sites selling physical products, and I've noticed a real dip in sales over the last six months, even with sites that sit high on page 1 and used to convert nicely. After hearing a recent news article saying Amazon sales are down 70% year on year, I'm thinking that could be the reason.

    Time for a bit of honesty, is anybody else struggling, with conversions?
    I suspect this is the recession biting in, as it's Europe and America that make up the bulk of sales, or not sales, as the case may be.

    Interested in your opinions...

    @chucky - how you getting on with Social Pipes?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenny T
    hey chucky,
    thanks for the really great information. i am still finishing up school but i was thinking of quitting school and start putting more time in internet marketing. but, i really learned a lot from your informative post and hopefully achieve similar results.
    thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Anang Andriana
    CHUCKY, I use MNF too, BUT I don't know some of my site jump down on zero level. I'll review what the problem on them is. Reading your valuable thread makes me sure I can repair my mistake. I love 10 list factors of your success. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author cherryblue
    This is some really helpful information, I just hope I can implement it in the right way to get good results.
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    • Profile picture of the author Latte007
      Hi Chucky- After building only two websites, I've bought several website through the WSO offers to keep increasing website production while I am trying to figure out keywords selection. Mostly, I figure it's better to do something to keep moving forward than do nothing. Even when that something is horribly wrong I've found value in the experience. Maybe, buying sites isn't smart, but I knew I did not have a good handle on keywords at that time. This is an awesome thread. Thanks for all the free advice!! I picked up your WSO as well. Both have helped me on my keyword selection. I've started the third site and am glad to have your suggestions to use.
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  • Profile picture of the author Goath
    Hi,

    I really lookin forward to hear more from you. You are really inspiring me.
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  • Profile picture of the author cartman
    Hi Chucky
    Just bought your WSO, the info is this thread has been a HUGE help and I cant wait to see what’s in your member’s area.

    Just a quick few questions regarding amazon affiliate sites -
    There are many wordpress themes / plugins that pull in product images/descriptions etc from amazon. They create a page for each product then add an “buy now from amazon” button instead of the standard add to cart. You can have categories etc just like a normal ecommerce site and products within them. This way you can add 100s of amazon products to your site in no time.
    • How do you think this compares to having all products on your homepage in terms of conversion/click through rate?
    • As pulling in descriptions from amazon creates a duplicate content issue, I will “noindex” these product pages and leave the category pages as follow. Should I “nofollow” the links to product pages too, so we don’t loose any page rank? However, then I will have 100s of internal “noindex,nofollow” pages, which google may not like.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Hi all,

      Sorry for abandoning the thread for a while (both this and my WSO); my time is taken up almost entirely by non-IM interests and will be that way at least till half way through December. So this will be my last round of answering questions on either thread for a while! Thanks for understanding.

      Originally Posted by chriscoop View Post

      Hello Chucky,

      When you build websites with with amazon products do you use links, banners or widgets. What is working the best for you?

      I have some websites and just started with amazon products. I have also adsense on the same website. What is better amazon or adsense or maybe both.

      Thanks for your advice
      I usually have text links with call to action phrases like 'Go Here Now for More Information' - but is it better than banners/images - I haven't tested!

      Adsense vs Amazon - The most difficult thing to do out of everything is getting traffic. Once you have your traffic, depending on the CTR and CPC and conversions and commissions, you need to calculate what will be more profitable for you.

      For example, if you're selling a $500 product at 6% commission, and 1% conversion rate you're earning $30 per 100 visitors.

      Can you earn the same $30 with Adsense based on the CPC and CTR? I believe that is the analysis you need to do in order to decide which mode of monetization is best!
      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      Come on, cut the guy a break - Chucky's done an amazing job with this thread and with answering 16 pages of discussion with little to gain for himself, I am pretty sure he is NOT holding back the one, single key to your success, it's all in the thread, he's not some guru, it's all common sense stuff. Stop overthinking, start doing, and give Chucky a well-earned rest (so he doesn't screw up his studies)!!!
      seriously, I have been very good (or less naughty) and doing a lot of studying/writing.
      People like it when served on a silver platter, don't they? But which approach makes people take action?
      Originally Posted by jimmel196 View Post

      Hello Chucky. I have an amazon review site. I have been writing articles and posting them to my website first and then to EZA, GoArticles, Squidoo and a few others. I am linking back to my main website from the articles. While linking my latest article on Squidoo, I was advised that I had reached my maximum number of links back to my website, which I believe is 10. What should I link any future content to from any content that I post om Squidoo? Should I link It directly to an amazon product or to another page or piece of content on my main website? I am unsure what to do and would appreciate any advice. Thank you. Jimmy
      Sorry Jimmy, I'm not a Squidoo expert!
      Originally Posted by PeckhamPirate View Post

      Hi.
      I wonder if anyone can help me, not just you Chcky, but anyone.
      I have a site that after all the recent Panda-risms, is sitting just off page 1 for lots of my keywords.
      I know I need links, but I already have plenty, and most of the sites beating me now are EMDs or variations of EMDs.
      My question is, how can I get back onto page 1.
      Everything's optimisied, everything's nicely interlinked, and as I say, I have high pr, .gov and .edu links a plenty, I even put videos on my pages, but still no movement, and I can't get off page 2 for search terms I used to boss...

      One more thing.
      I have several sites selling physical products, and I've noticed a real dip in sales over the last six months, even with sites that sit high on page 1 and used to convert nicely. After hearing a recent news article saying Amazon sales are down 70% year on year, I'm thinking that could be the reason.

      Time for a bit of honesty, is anybody else struggling, with conversions?
      I suspect this is the recession biting in, as it's Europe and America that make up the bulk of sales, or not sales, as the case may be.

      Interested in your opinions...

      @chucky - how you getting on with Social Pipes?
      Hey maan, long time no talk!

      As for Amazon sales 70% down? Wow! No I didn't feel it, I had a couple of new high price ticket item sites this year so my total revenue was better this year (prior to holiday shopping that is). But then again, it could have been because of that niche and besides I didn't earn a lot on Amazon on a regular month, so it wasn't difficult to beat that.

      As for your site being stuck on page 2 - link velocity has helped me get out of it; for example 2-3 links/day for one week and then 3-4/day the next week and so on using quality links that is. Consistency. Then again, if the competition in front of you is super good, it's a different ball game

      As for Social Pipes, no I couldn't figure it out properly, I installed it on one site, but didn't think it posted to all the properties and then didn't have time to look at it anymore.
      Originally Posted by Kenny T View Post

      hey chucky,
      thanks for the really great information. i am still finishing up school but i was thinking of quitting school and start putting more time in internet marketing. but, i really learned a lot from your informative post and hopefully achieve similar results.
      thanks!
      None of my business, but I wouldn't advise you to quit school man!! I've seen so many ups and downs, Amazon banning certain states, Google Pandas etc. etc. I'm not thinking negative, but this really is dynamic and you have to have a plan B to fall back on to if this thing becomes rough. Education is a nice Plan B. In my case, IM is my plan B! Right now I work on both and as a result torture myself too much, at some point I'm going to have to choose one of them, otherwise I'll die before I hit 50! Seriously! But if I choose to quit my education, I will make sure it's up to a certain point so that I can always go back to it should IM get any more rockier!
      Originally Posted by Latte007 View Post

      Hi Chucky- After building only two websites, I've bought several website through the WSO offers to keep increasing website production while I am trying to figure out keywords selection. Mostly, I figure it's better to do something to keep moving forward than do nothing. Even when that something is horribly wrong I've found value in the experience. Maybe, buying sites isn't smart, but I knew I did not have a good handle on keywords at that time. This is an awesome thread. Thanks for all the free advice!! I picked up your WSO as well. Both have helped me on my keyword selection. I've started the third site and am glad to have your suggestions to use.
      Hey, thanks for picking up my WSO, I was wondering how I'm getting trickles of sales even when I'm not bumping my WSO.
      The only problem with buying sites is that they may not be properly optimized for on-page factors. Proper on-page optimization (and you know it's not the regular kw density and header tags etc. now that you've bought my WSO) makes off page SEO a very easy game. Right now I have a 1 page wordpress site on top 5 without a single backlink. Sure it's very low competition, but still, purely based on on page factors.
      If you have the $$, outsource website production and focus on producing quality useful content that people will actually 'LIKE'/SHARE. If people LIKE/SHARE, that's a good indication that your content is good!

      This is a numbers game, you cannot have 5 websites and earn 6 figures (except in rare cases). You have to have a bunch!
      Originally Posted by cartman View Post

      Hi Chucky
      Just bought your WSO, the info is this thread has been a HUGE help and I cant wait to see what's in your member's area.

      Just a quick few questions regarding amazon affiliate sites -
      There are many wordpress themes / plugins that pull in product images/descriptions etc from amazon. They create a page for each product then add an "buy now from amazon" button instead of the standard add to cart. You can have categories etc just like a normal ecommerce site and products within them. This way you can add 100s of amazon products to your site in no time.
      • How do you think this compares to having all products on your homepage in terms of conversion/click through rate?
      • As pulling in descriptions from amazon creates a duplicate content issue, I will "noindex" these product pages and leave the category pages as follow. Should I "nofollow" the links to product pages too, so we don't loose any page rank? However, then I will have 100s of internal "noindex,nofollow" pages, which google may not like.

      Thanks
      Hey, thanks for buying the WSO, hope you found good value in there!

      I THINK it's OK to do it as long as you organize them properly. For example, if your site is on TVs and you have categories for 32 inch, 40 inch 55 inch etc. and you can drip content to those particular categories (or alternatively brand names) and then organize those links on your homepage. Click here for 55 inch TVs, here for 32 inch TVs etc conversions won't suffer. The fact that you have a lot of products on your site will also help increase the amount of time people spend on your site thus improve the on-page factors helping you increase rankings!

      Nofollow noindex issue - I'm sorry man, I haven't done anything like that myself, so I shouldn't give you my opinion which may be highly erroneous. No following link sounds to be OK.
      Sorry, I'm not an expert on this topic!
      OK guys! That's my LAST contribution to this thread, may be until 2012! Hope everybody will have a great holiday SELLING seazon!
      Chucky
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        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        Hi all,

        Sorry for abandoning the thread for a while (both this and my WSO); my time is taken up almost entirely by non-IM interests and will be that way at least till half way through December. So this will be my last round of answering questions on either thread for a while! Thanks for understanding.

        OK guys! That's my LAST contribution to this thread, may be until 2012! Hope everybody will have a great holiday SELLING seazon!
        Chucky
        Wish you same

        Thank you so much for the contribution here
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  • Profile picture of the author ultmwarriur
    wow i was doubting but thnx for sharing
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    us shud write a book
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  • Profile picture of the author xtortionx50
    Thanks chuck! .... its nice to see people sharing there ideas and experiences here. I will definitely be following you and your progress and ventures. Keep up the good work to bringing hope to people that have lost it
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  • Profile picture of the author John Hocking
    I think that had to be one of the longest posts I have seen on WF.

    Great information and thank you for going into the deatils.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeromyS
    So much info! This is really great! You are giving this away, you should put it into a WSO and build a list.....but still make it free
    Thank you Chuck!
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinghard
    so amazon does work?
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    • Profile picture of the author davidtong
      Originally Posted by tryinghard View Post

      so amazon does work?
      Seriously???? Geez
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    • Profile picture of the author Latte007
      Originally Posted by tryinghard View Post

      so amazon does work?
      I make more from Amazon than I do ad sense. Based at looking at my various sites, I'd say it depends on how much work I put into them content-wise and backlinking as to how well they do. Amazon does well for me using solid content, not 400 word fluff. Ad sense, I just have less interest in those sites than I do my review sites. That totally reflects it in the earning statements. I can't speak for anyone else's results.
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  • Profile picture of the author tim413
    I purchased Chucky's WSO. For me, this WSO is outstanding!!! It only costs around 9.00, so pick it up if you like what Chucky writes on this thread.

    Here is Chucky's WSO Google Page 1 in 31 days with only 4 methods of backlinking Enjoy!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author hannahcarol
    wow, this post should be required reading.. I haven't found anything as informative & well rounded about keyword research!! (though I haven't been doing IM for long!) It's gonna take me a few days to get through all this - just wondering if you think doing excellent SEO on a non-buying ready keyword (just hoping to pull in money from adsense if I can get the top spot's traffic) is worth it? how much money should that pull in if search volume is in the range you suggest?
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    • Profile picture of the author mc9320
      There are many differing opinions on what to with SEO and IM on this forum but this thread by Chucky is simply superb and he explains things in such a straightforward way!
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  • Profile picture of the author giseo
    This still keeping up after all the Panda updates?
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    I set up a few sites following chucky's advice a few months ago and was eagerly waiting for black friday to come since all my sites were in this niche. All I can say is WOW, I earned way more than I thought I would on Black friday, this is by far, one of the best niches to be in. December is also a great month for amazon affiliates so I'm very much looking forward to these upcoming weeks
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  • Profile picture of the author steven Clayden
    wow, how did i miss this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    Dude so very cool man!! Pay it forward. It's so nice to see advice that is useable and not spammy and legit and has actionable steps to achieve. I like the fact that you also included all the things that show you're like the rest of us in this IM game. Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Mary Greene
      Long live Chucky the Great! What a mind and heart you have.

      Cheers,
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      • Profile picture of the author amarketing
        Chucky,I hope this post finds you doing well (and profiting). You've done an amazing job with this thread...all of the information you've give on both on-page and off-page SEO is extremely extensive!


        However, it's been awhile since your original post and you mentioned that you changed to a different SEO plug-in. Since high-ranking (and, therefore, SEO) is really the backbone of this whole thread, would you share if you are doing anything different along the lines of SEO?

        Also, I've found that the options are so extensive for SEO plug-ins that it's sometimes hard to decide just what are the best settings. Could you detail the settings you use on your plugin or, better yet, post a screenshot of your settings?

        You said you probably won't be revisiting this thread until the new year, so whenever you're ready...this post (and everyone else's) will be here waiting.

        Thanks for your dedication to this thread!
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    It's always fantastic to find out what works, and be able to scale it up
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    Hey
    Please let me know that the content you write (by your hand, outsource) or auto generate content?
    Thanks
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    Thank you very much Chuky for awesome information, very helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    Hey Chucky, Thanks to you and this thread, I made a killing this holiday season with Amazon. It amazes me that you provided all of this information for free in this thread. Thank you so much for your thoughtfulness.
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    • Profile picture of the author IMKid
      Originally Posted by Ray Wynn View Post

      Hey Chucky, Thanks to you and this thread, I made a killing this holiday season with Amazon. It amazes me that you provided all of this information for free in this thread. Thank you so much for your thoughtfulness.
      that's awesome news ray congrats
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    Thank you so much for sharing!
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  • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
    @Chucky - Thanks for that last reply.
    I'm really surprised nobody else piped up about dipping sales.

    Of course, Christmas is always going to be the best time of year to sell on Amazon, but when I said Amazon sales were down 70% I was referring to news I'd heard from the company itself.

    Personally, thanks in large to the advice I picked up from this thread, I had a great year, and while I didn't hit six figures for 2012, I did have a couple of 4 figure days before Christmas.

    But I'm quite sure that the mix of Panda and the ongoing financial situation has led to a big downturn in sales at Amazon itself.

    It really would be good to hear some honest admissions from other warriors on the subject, because I've seen for myself that several of my less well attended sites have really underperformed, especially since May/June time.
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  • Profile picture of the author bed linen
    Wow, I am really impressed! I have my own website, that has been up and running for just over a year now and I just added an Amazon site, but have not done any marketing for the Amazon site yet. My plan was to just start blogging the different merchandise on my Amazon site, and as you stated, using low search KW. Thanks for sharing your successful experiences! Happy New Year!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      OK back after a couple of months! And here's a screenshot of last two months of 2011! I think it looks slightly better than last year (from Amazon). Added the same to page 1 btw.



      Originally Posted by JeromyS View Post

      So much info! This is really great! You are giving this away, you should put it into a WSO and build a list.....but still make it free
      Thank you Chuck!
      I did instead I charged for the WSO, but I haven't sent a single email to the list - I just can't spam people's inboxes. May be in the future

      Originally Posted by tim413 View Post

      I purchased Chucky's WSO. For me, this WSO is outstanding!!! It only costs around 9.00, so pick it up if you like what Chucky writes on this thread.

      Here is Chucky's WSO Google Page 1 in 31 days with only 4 methods of backlinking Enjoy!!!
      Thank you Tim, appreciate your comments and promoting my WSO! Hope you were able to get some results from what you learned!

      Originally Posted by hannahcarol View Post

      wow, this post should be required reading.. I haven't found anything as informative & well rounded about keyword research!! (though I haven't been doing IM for long!) It's gonna take me a few days to get through all this - just wondering if you think doing excellent SEO on a non-buying ready keyword (just hoping to pull in money from adsense if I can get the top spot's traffic) is worth it? how much money should that pull in if search volume is in the range you suggest?
      Hey, thanks!
      I'm not sure I know the right answer to your question. But think about this, if that is a non-buying kw, would there be adsense ads? unless you rank for the non-commercial kw and drive traffic to a page optimized for a commercial kw. See what I mean?

      Originally Posted by giseo View Post

      This still keeping up after all the Panda updates?
      Updated 2012 screenshot should answer that question!

      Originally Posted by Ray Wynn View Post

      I set up a few sites following chucky's advice a few months ago and was eagerly waiting for black friday to come since all my sites were in this niche. All I can say is WOW, I earned way more than I thought I would on Black friday, this is by far, one of the best niches to be in. December is also a great month for amazon affiliates so I'm very much looking forward to these upcoming weeks
      Originally Posted by Ray Wynn View Post

      Hey Chucky, Thanks to you and this thread, I made a killing this holiday season with Amazon. It amazes me that you provided all of this information for free in this thread. Thank you so much for your thoughtfulness.
      AWESOME NEWS man! I hope your screenshot looks better than mine. Congrats! As I've been saying ACTION = DOUGH and those who took action would have had similar results this year!

      Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

      Chucky,I hope this post finds you doing well (and profiting). You've done an amazing job with this thread...all of the information you've give on both on-page and off-page SEO is extremely extensive!

      However, it's been awhile since your original post and you mentioned that you changed to a different SEO plug-in. Since high-ranking (and, therefore, SEO) is really the backbone of this whole thread, would you share if you are doing anything different along the lines of SEO?

      Also, I've found that the options are so extensive for SEO plug-ins that it's sometimes hard to decide just what are the best settings. Could you detail the settings you use on your plugin or, better yet, post a screenshot of your settings?

      You said you probably won't be revisiting this thread until the new year, so whenever you're ready...this post (and everyone else's) will be here waiting.

      Thanks for your dedication to this thread!
      Hey, yes the backbone is the same although I have done a few changes as far as plugins go etc. Unfortunately I can't share them here because that's info from my paid WSO and it would not be fair for the paying customers if I shared that information for free here.

      Hope you understand!

      Originally Posted by markviduk86 View Post

      Hey
      Please let me know that the content you write (by your hand, outsource) or auto generate content?
      Thanks
      Not autogenerated content!
      Originally Posted by PeckhamPirate View Post

      @Chucky - Thanks for that last reply.
      I'm really surprised nobody else piped up about dipping sales.

      Of course, Christmas is always going to be the best time of year to sell on Amazon, but when I said Amazon sales were down 70% I was referring to news I'd heard from the company itself.

      Personally, thanks in large to the advice I picked up from this thread, I had a great year, and while I didn't hit six figures for 2012, I did have a couple of 4 figure days before Christmas.

      But I'm quite sure that the mix of Panda and the ongoing financial situation has led to a big downturn in sales at Amazon itself.

      It really would be good to hear some honest admissions from other warriors on the subject, because I've seen for myself that several of my less well attended sites have really underperformed, especially since May/June time.
      Hey, great to hear about your 4 figure days! My answer still remains the same, as you can see from my screenshot, no dip for me. I think it depends on the niche you target. The screenshot would have looked even better if there had been snow this year (hint hint) Several #1-3 ranking sites - no snow - no demand - no visitors - no $

      I experienced the same with one of my Nintendo sites. I've shared that niche in the past, so I'll be open about it. Last year I made several Ks from this site, but this year it was down to about $500, I believe that's not because people didn't buy video games but because I didn't evolve from Nintendo Wii to Xbox Kinect, which was the hottest selling game this year (out of Nintendo, PS3 and Xbox). OK, yet another 7 figure idea for an action taker!

      So I think it must be a niche specific thing!

      Originally Posted by bed linen View Post

      Wow, I am really impressed! I have my own website, that has been up and running for just over a year now and I just added an Amazon site, but have not done any marketing for the Amazon site yet. My plan was to just start blogging the different merchandise on my Amazon site, and as you stated, using low search KW. Thanks for sharing your successful experiences! Happy New Year!
      Great! You know that's where all of started!
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  • Profile picture of the author amarketing
    Hey, yes the backbone is the same although I have done a few changes as far as plugins go etc. Unfortunately I can't share them here because that's info from my paid WSO and it would not be fair for the paying customers if I shared that information for free here.

    Hope you understand!
    Chucky, I totally understand! Thanks for replying and for keeping this thread alive! Be careful, though; I was reading in another thread that if an OP has more than 50 posts in his thread, it will lock the thread! I don't know if this is still in effect, but you may want to look into that. I heard that you can consolidated posts and delete others to lower your "posts in thread."

    Your WSO says 31 days...is that the average of how long it takes for your to rank one of your sites?

    Thanks again for not abandoning this thread!
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    I've been on every AM forum and in the biz since 2005 and this is by far one of the top 3 threads I've seen in my life. The only one that seems to have this much correct and valuable information from one person is on a forum about PPV that you have to pay more than the fee of The War Room monthly.

    Seriously, I'd buy you a drink if I could. Few people give back in such a way.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnInNewJersey
      What the h--- am I talking about? :-)

      I don't use WordPress, I use XSitePro, so no plugins.

      I'm guessing you'll say that there's SEO information aside from such comcerning plugins that it is well worth obtaining.

      I hope I guessed right.

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    Great Info! Love what I'm reading here and will bookmark this thread for further review. Thanks so much!
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  • Profile picture of the author guzpra
    hey chucky, do you still run the seo service you offered? thx for the reply
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    Going to try this method with some sites this week. Will let you know of the results.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnInNewJersey
      Would this WSO be very beneficial for a website that does not use plugins, specifically XSitePro? That is specifically for advice about on- and off-page SEO that can be done manually.

      John
      New Jersey USA
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

        Chucky, I totally understand! Thanks for replying and for keeping this thread alive! Be careful, though; I was reading in another thread that if an OP has more than 50 posts in his thread, it will lock the thread! I don't know if this is still in effect, but you may want to look into that. I heard that you can consolidated posts and delete others to lower your "posts in thread."

        Your WSO says 31 days...is that the average of how long it takes for your to rank one of your sites?

        Thanks again for not abandoning this thread!
        Ah really? I might have already gone past that 50 mark I'm afraid!

        No it's not the average to hit page 1. There has been a few occasions when I ranked page 1 within a week or two. But usually it's 2-3 months or longer (depending on the level of competition). I was so methodical with this site and I wanted to rank it within a month so that I could get a nice title for my WSO

        It hit #1 about 2 weeks ago - so that's #1 in about 4-5 months I think! Again depends on competition!

        Originally Posted by GetKane View Post

        I've been on every AM forum and in the biz since 2005 and this is by far one of the top 3 threads I've seen in my life. The only one that seems to have this much correct and valuable information from one person is on a forum about PPV that you have to pay more than the fee of The War Room monthly.

        Seriously, I'd buy you a drink if I could. Few people give back in such a way.
        Thank you Kane, that's a great complement! It's comments like those that make me come back to this thread!

        Originally Posted by guzpra View Post

        hey chucky, do you still run the seo service you offered? thx for the reply
        Nope sorry!

        Originally Posted by JohnInNewJersey View Post

        Would this WSO be very beneficial for a website that does not use plugins, specifically XSitePro? That is specifically for advice about on- and off-page SEO that can be done manually.

        John
        New Jersey USA
        The off-page part : yes!
        But the on-page - probably not.... unless you're convinced to switch to wordpress
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        • Profile picture of the author IMKid
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post


          Nope sorry!
          Chucky, can you recommend any service you are using for such link wheel building?
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          • Profile picture of the author Chucky
            Originally Posted by IMKid View Post

            Chucky, can you recommend any service you are using for such link wheel building?
            Sorry, haven't used one in ages!
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            • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
              Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

              Sorry, haven't used one in ages!
              It's really worth it to buy Chucky's WSO. It really doesn't cost that much at all, and the amount of valuable information is outstanding
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        • Profile picture of the author guzpra
          Originally Posted by Chucky View Post


          Nope sorry!
          oh thats a pity
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          • Profile picture of the author Chucky
            Originally Posted by co2 View Post

            It's really worth it to buy Chucky's WSO. It really doesn't cost that much at all, and the amount of valuable information is outstanding
            Thanks for the support man! Really appreciated!

            Originally Posted by guzpra View Post

            oh thats a pity
            I used a linkwheel service from a warrior named something like Lagnajothi Roy, he did a pretty good job. I believe I have the link to that WSO on my inactive backlinking building WSO sales page.
            Good luck!
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            • Profile picture of the author guzpra
              Originally Posted by Chucky View Post


              I used a linkwheel service from a warrior named something like Lagnajothi Roy, he did a pretty good job. I believe I have the link to that WSO on my inactive backlinking building WSO sales page.
              Good luck!
              oh, Thanks so much then
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  • Profile picture of the author glock28
    i just want to say thanks for this post because it was very helpful to me
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  • Profile picture of the author amarketing
    Chucky, how many sites are you up to now? Are you still finding that 20% of your sites earn 80% of the money?

    Also, are you still doing 5 page niche sites, or have you expanded into larger authority-like sites? If you've gone into the authority sites, what has your experience been like with them?
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    • Profile picture of the author Chucky
      Originally Posted by amarketing View Post

      Chucky, how many sites are you up to now? Are you still finding that 20% of your sites earn 80% of the money?

      Also, are you still doing 5 page niche sites, or have you expanded into larger authority-like sites? If you've gone into the authority sites, what has your experience been like with them?
      How many in total? 50-60+ I think
      80:20 rule? Yes I still get it wrong
      Recently I had a site hitting #1 - about 100+ uniques daily - made 1 sale in two weeks for a CB product - that's a BIG failure
      Does 5 pages still work? Yes. But I do make them bigger if I find they're making money to conquer more keywords - but they're no where near the typical authority site. Hope that helps and sorry for the delay in answering!
      Chucky
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      • Profile picture of the author RayW
        Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

        How many in total? 50-60+ I think
        80:20 rule? Yes I still get it wrong
        Recently I had a site hitting #1 - about 100+ uniques daily - made 1 sale in two weeks for a CB product - that's a BIG failure
        Does 5 pages still work? Yes. But I do make them bigger if I find they're making money to conquer more keywords - but they're no where near the typical authority site. Hope that helps and sorry for the delay in answering!
        Chucky
        Hey Chucky, how many BMR posts/links does it usually take to get one of your sniper sites to Top 5 in the SERPs?

        Also, are there any blog networks other than BMR that you use/recommend?
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        • Profile picture of the author Chucky
          Originally Posted by RayW View Post

          Hey Chucky, how many BMR posts/links does it usually take to get one of your sniper sites to Top 5 in the SERPs?

          Also, are there any blog networks other than BMR that you use/recommend?
          That depends on the competition obviously - makes sense right? And obviously BMR can't do it alone.
          BMR closed for new customers last week. I'm largely inactive in IM right now - till about May/June - and I unsubscribed from a lot of networks several months ago and have no idea if they work right now or not. But BMR surely works!
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  • Profile picture of the author QuantumSoul9
    Chucky you're awesome man, thank you a lot for this fantastic thread! I'll even save it on my hard drive, in case it's somehow rendered inaccessible online in the future (I hope not!). You've surely gained a lot of good 'karma' with it if you know what I mean I'll definitely buy your WSO when I'll finally make some sales (maybe it's hard to believe but these $10 is currently about all I have on my bank account ;( )

    By the way, if you don't mind I'd like to ask you for some advice as a total newbie in the IM field.

    Well I've already started my first campaign, but without buying the all the domains for kws and making my own money sites, but for a start I made a few landing pages on squidoo instead.

    My question is: is it better to go down this path for a while (ranking these LPs on 2.0 properties) for my first campaign to get some first sales quickly and start well (squidoo is an authority site so it should be a little easier to rank then 'fresh' domains I suppose?) or quickly switch over to the classic stand-alone LP model instead, and use these squidoo sites as backlinks?

    I've also written an ezine article for each of the squidoo sites (so-called 'lenses'), but most of them haven't been published yet. So one more question: in the resource box of each article I have two links, one to the corresponding squidoo lens and one hoplink straight to the clickbank sales page, but through my own domain (let's say domain1.info). Let's assume that I get these articles published, and in the future I'll decide to make my own landing page under a new, kw-targeted domain (domain2.info, or maybe .com if I have more money xD). If I then redirect the domain1 which I have in the articles' links to the same site as domain2, will it still serve as a backlink for domain2, too?

    I could also edit the article and add a new link, but then there could be problems with approval and stuff ;( I know I shouldn't think like that but it's still good to know for the future.

    Thank you for advance for the answer!
    And by the way I'd like to say hello to everyone on the forum with this post

    The niche I'm targeting isn't heavily populated by marketers and my main competitor for my keywords has about 1600 backlinks from what I've checked with SEO Spyglass, but none of them have the keywords in the anchor text.
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  • Profile picture of the author Traffic Master
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    Nice Journey you've got here. Big dreams, oh wait you've already achieved them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Spartan78
    I am glad to see people like you here. Thank you
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    Amazing and inspirational journey, friend, always a pleasure to see a success, keep up the great work
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Sutanto
    BMR service is closed. All BMR blog network have been deindexed by Google. Do you have any suggestion to replace BMR?
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  • Profile picture of the author ijunnn
    Awesome!, Thank you for good technique.
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    • Profile picture of the author Arav
      It's impressive.
      But what is the latest update after the latest Panda update?
      Can you please give some light on it?
      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Chucky
        Originally Posted by Arav View Post

        It's impressive.
        But what is the latest update after the latest Panda update?
        Can you please give some light on it?
        Thanks
        The strategy worked fine with the Pandas.

        But Penguin took out a lot of these 5 page sites. I suspect it is a combination of both over-optimized on page SEO and off page SEO.

        Am I going to bother correcting them? likely not!

        What do I do next? Don't quite know yet :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Broody
    Congratulations
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  • Profile picture of the author Oracle_320th
    There is an interesting article here that we can use as some guidelines:
    Backlink Banzai : Google Penguin - An Examination & Conclusions

    I still don't know what will happen next, but the scale is big, I have never seen anything like this before since the last 2007 update and this is even bigger.

    Unless Bing and Facebook's-in-concept search engine can compete the playing field equally, for the future, I think we have to create real and reasonable solid business to withstand any update.

    Business likes Zippos or Amazon. I know this is not fair, but so far I can only see Google moves to this direction. Someday in the future, we can't no longer make easy cash through affiliate program or adsense as one-man person.

    If you want to make money, follow the rule of business:

    build concept -> build prototype -> test your idea -> get funding from venture capital -> refine your business process and model -> make it big.

    From there stand point, it makes a lot of sense, since for real business it will be feasible to spend tons of cash for adwords.

    I think that's the message Google wants to convey. Even though it's shame because I do find Bing search result is more useful since the last penguin update.
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      Originally Posted by Oracle_320th View Post

      Even though it's shame because I do find Bing search result is more useful since the last penguin update.
      Bing's results are as good or better then Google, I think G definately have shot themselves in the foot!
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  • Profile picture of the author markviduk86
    So, please update your earning on 2012 ?
    After Panda and Google Penguin updated - how your income change ?
    And another question?
    All your site is a reviews site: example: product-name-reviews.com ?
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    • Profile picture of the author PhilJensen
      Originally Posted by markviduk86 View Post

      So, please update your earning on 2012 ?
      After Panda and Google Penguin updated - how your income change ?
      And another question?
      All your site is a reviews site: example: product-name-reviews.com ?
      Ya, I would be interested too. I'm mainly an Adsense guy, but these amazon figures are intriguing.

      Phil
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    Bump
    I am waiting Chucky update this thread !!!
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    • Profile picture of the author markowe
      Originally Posted by markviduk86 View Post

      Bump
      I am waiting Chucky update this thread !!!
      I am guessing Chucky is probably licking his wounds like a great number of us. Hope you've got SOMETHING left after all these updates, Chucky!
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  • Profile picture of the author Streamline
    Hey Chucky, nice work man. I'm happy for your success!
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  • Profile picture of the author CaptainNewgate
    Congrats ..

    thats one lengthy a post!!
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  • Profile picture of the author blackcoffe
    Bravo man you are osom i don't think we will need another teacher from now ON...
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  • Profile picture of the author getin2learn
    It's a pity to see how big G devaluates all he was "preaching" in terms of what the sites/pages need to have in order to deserve high rankings.... I wonder, if the algorithm is so good now after Panda and Penguin, why did we trust the big G and its search results in the past when the algo was obviously bad?
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  • Profile picture of the author PrimaDNA1989
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    Excellent post. Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author markowe
      Originally Posted by PrimaDNA1989 View Post

      Excellent post. Thanks.
      Dude, just press the "Thanks" button - and check the date of the thread, this hasn't been updated in a year, the topic is dead, Chucky has moved on to better things (we hope).
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