My First 4 Figure Day, 5 Figure Month and 6 Figure Year - Now 2 Years! UPADTED!

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2010 was a memorable year in my IM carrier. What was magical about it was the fact that I had initially planned on achieving these goals in 2013 but they happened in 2010.


Currently I’m in grad school and I’m graduating in 2012. I didn’t think I could maintain a GPA of 3.9/4.0 and achieve my IM goals before graduating. But I was WRONG!


I have learned a ton from Warrior Forum (both free information and paid WSOs) and I thought it would be terribly wrong if I didn’t give anything back to the forum.



Earnings-November-December-2010.wmv - YouTube


The purpose of this screenshot is NOT to brag, but simply to encourage you so that you know this was NOT a one time fluke! This will also be my last update as far as proof of income goes, if figures from 2 years in a row won't convince one to take action, nothing will.
Disclaimer: all this is not from free traffic, this year I experimented with a few paid traffic methods targeting Black Friday/Cyber Monday, however those earnings are less than 10% from the screenshot below.


What's below this point is what I wrote back in March 2011. Some of the details may have changed, but the basic principles remain the same even as of January 2012.

All of above was from free traffic. Currently I have over half a dozen #1 rankings on Google and another dozen or so elsewhere on the first page. Most of them are similar to sniper sites with an average of about 4-5 posts. Two of them are larger sites with multiple rankings for various different long tail keywords. These two larger sites have about 30 - 80 posts in them.


The video below shows the products for which I earned a commission on Black Friday



My income comes from ClickBank, Commission Junction and Amazon (and like $50/month from adsense).

If you can't find all the videos, here is my YouTube channel where you will be able to watch all the videos


I intend to share my on page and off page SEO strategies in this thread. However, I STRONGLY believe that my SEO knowledge played a relatively small role in this success. If one asks me to list the factors in the order that they contributed to this success, I think my list is going to be something like this.
  1. Positive attitude – I had ABSOLUTELY no doubt in my mind that I was going to achieve these goals
  2. Ability to think BIG – think 4 steps ahead
  3. Ability to prioritize things (e.g. read ‘Think and Grow Rich’ vs watch American Idol)
  4. Realization that knowledge means NOTHING without ACTION
  5. TAKING ACTION
  6. Ability to take a ‘failure’ as a lesson and to move on – I had many failures when starting off; but I always thought “if others could do it, I could do it better”
  7. Sticking to one system instead of jumping from one model to another – there are many ways to skin a cat; but you only need to learn one way to do it
  8. On page and off page SEO
  9. Picking the right niche market (and then the right product)
  10. Providing value to customers and engaging them for better conversions – in some of my review sites, my #1 recommended product gives me a smaller commission than #2 and #3 products. I’ve seen a lot of reviews simply based on the affiliate commission instead of the actual product value, but I just don’t do that.
: My personal belief is that you need to get above 1 - 7 right regardless of what you want to be successful in. This is purely my personal opinion. I have not had a formal education in business or marketing.


I WANT TO REALLY STRESS THE FOLLOWING POINTS. I'm far from perfect. I have many weaknesses. I will list a few of them below.
  1. I’m slow – I hate to admit it, but I am. I’ve been wanting to write this since December, but it took me 3 months to get it going
  2. I’m not very organized – I have many incomplete websites; I have many domains that I have purchased, but never used; I have got content written for about a half a dozen new websites, but they are still in my inbox (from outsource-rs); for some websites, I don’t have analytics installed so I don’t know the keywords that are bringing them traffic/sales; for some websites that are already on the 2nd page, I don’t have any affiliate links – I’m probably leaving money on the table; I have never used an auto-responder and thus have no list – again I’m losing money in the long run here
  3. I can’t multi-task. I can only do one thing at a time. I cannot think about building links while I’m still making a website or studying for an exam.
  4. My business model is not the most stable – I have a few sites bringing all my money. Should a couple of them get thrown away from their current positions, I will lose like 50% of my IM income. I am aware of this; but haven’t done a lot about it. I’d rather have 10 sites that make $500/month than 4 sites that make $2500/month (unfortunately my current situation is closer to the latter than the former)
  5. I get emotional and attached to my websites – my very first websites were all failures. Either they were in the wrong market, targeted the wrong keywords (with no commercial intent) or they had no significant search volume. Yet I was reluctant to move to a different market or different keyword, instead wasted a lot of time and $ trying to squeeze water from stone.
  6. I’m not the most outgoing personality – as a result, my WF avatar doesn’t have my picture, I don’t have a Facebook or Twitter account and as a result I don’t do any social networking (thus missing out on the whole social marketing thing). This is also why I’m not in the IM niche. Come to think of it, I don’t even have my real name in my profile …. maybe one day… soon!!

Because I want you to understand that one does not need to be perfect to be successful in IM. I have many deficiencies. In spite of all those, I have been relatively successful in IM with the few hours (as little as 1 – 3 hours/day) that I can spend on it.


When I started writing this, my plan was to write the whole thread in one go. But it has already taken me like 12 hours (including figuring out Camtasia and making the videos) and I think I have like another 40 hours of SEO that I want to share with you in my head. For example I wish to talk at least about the following broad topics:
  1. Keyword research – I’ll be honest here. This is probably my weakest area. I do a few basic things. I don’t think any of that is unique to me. In the early days, I used to be a lot conservative, but now I’m not afraid to compete with big players; so I’m not too concerned about kw research. Currently I’m ranking #12 for a relatively broad keyword: a two word phrase e.g. boys games (just an example) and I’m super excited about it. All the keyword tools that I used told me to keep away from this keyword, but I didn't listen to them. In the early days I would have never gone for this. Instead I would have gone for something like “young boys outdoor games”. (: )
  2. Basic and advanced on page SEO – if you’ve been in IM a while and you have multiple #1 rankings, you should probably not waste your time reading my methods. But if you are not there yet, I can assure you that you will learn many things that will do you a whole lot of good if you put them to action. I will probably try and spend a lot of time on the interlinking structure as I don’t see many people addressing this important aspect of SEO enough.
  3. Basic and advanced off page SEO – my typical #1 position has fewer backlinks pointing to it than backlinks for #2 and #3 websites combined. This is not true when I outrank Amazon.com or Wikipedia. Because they are authority sites, they get ranked with much fewer or no backlinks. I believe I will be talking about some advanced off page SEO. I also understand that for some relatively new warriors these concepts will be super-advanced while for others (e.g. those like Dan Thies or Leslie Rhodie) my advanced SEO may be basic.
I have many checklists etc. on MS Excel sheets and I will share them with you when I figure out how to upload them to this thread.

By the way I don’t call myself an SEO specialist. I may only know a fraction of what people like Dan Thies or Leslie Rhodie know. But the fact that I have over a half a dozen #1 rankings that earned me my first six figures online probably suggests that I know enough SEO to give a beginner a jump start in their IM carrier.

I’m going to call it a day now and will come back tomorrow to start some SEO. Got to go do something that will actually make me some money

and 4 potential keyword phrases. For some of them 'exact match domains' are still available.

The 5 videos were nearly 1 hour long and kind of cluttered the page. So I took them to a post further down this page. The text added on Day 4 on keyword research should be more concise and organized than the videos. However, the videos address certain aspects that I don't in the text. So if you have time you are encouraged to watch them, but if you don't have the time (like me); the text on Day 4 should give you a good foundation.




The importance of keyword research cannot be emphasized enough. If you pick the wrong keyword, you can spend tons of time and money without a significant return. Sometimes, you get the coveted #1, but you find it has no commercial intent and therefore ZERO $$ (been there done that ).
In the past, I have spent a couple of hours on keyword research (for a business that I’m going to build that will earn me $1000s for life) and paid the price dearly. Only now am I realizing the real importance of it. This is the foundation of your business. Don’t be afraid (or lazy) to spend days on it (instead of hours) if you have to!


Now that I have produced several winners, I don't go in to a LOT of details because I know a few tricks to beat my competition. But if you are starting out, it's best that you pay as much attention as possible to this initial step of your business. Remember, you're building a business, not just a website!



Whether you use manual methods or paid tools, the goal should be to find a keyword with
  1. Sufficient search volume
  2. A level of competition that you can handle
  3. Enough commercial intent (instead of informational)
Different people use different parameters depending on their personal preferences/strengths
  1. I personally think you cannot give concrete figures for the search volume. For example, if you were to sell an expensive $1000 item (Jewellery, industrial equipment on Amazon – hint hint!!) with a 7% commission, 10 sales/month is $700. For a laser targeted buying keyword with high commercial intent, a search volume as little as 300/month can give you that $700. The other extreme is also true. So you really have to make a call depending on the product you are promoting.
  2. The general consensus is that you should target a search phrase with approximately 3000 exact searches/month. That’s 100 searches/day and will get you 40 visitors/day if you
    1. Obtain #1 position on Google
    2. And if you get traffic ONLY through that single kw – this almost never happens; you are bound to get traffic from all kinds of long tail kw.
  3. If you are starting out, it is VERY IMPORTANT that you start on a POSITIVE note. In other words, you don’t want to be targeting a highly competitive keyword just because you want to go with the 3000 searches/month norm. You’d rather target a keyword with only 750 searches/month (exact count), get that #1 position and get some confidence going even if it is only going to earn you $75/month. THIS IS ALSO WHAT I DID at the beginning. Had I targeted a term like ‘Dog Obedience Training’, I may have already given up internet marketing and may not have been in a position to write this post today.(I did right at the beginning, but thankfully I failed fast )


  1. What competition? That’s what some SUPER AFFILIATES like James Schramko says! When you get to that level, when you have $1000s to throw away, when you have produced dozens of winners you can say that. But if you are just starting out, I personally think you should pick a keyword with relatively low competition so that you are going to taste success sooner than later.
  2. The general consensus is that you should target a keyword with less than 30,000 ‘competition’. Here, ‘competition’ is taken as the number of results you get when you do an exact search for your phrase on Google; e.g. “dog training obedience” (the keyword inside inverted commas). Tools like Micro Niche Finder (MNF), automatically gives this (they call it the phrase count). I rank #1 for a keyword with a phrase count of 8 million. I would personally not worry about it too much. Even if you are just starting out, if all other factors look fabulous, I wouldn’t pitch a keyword just because it has a phrase count of 100,000. OBVIOUSLY, the lower the phrase count the better, but don’t let that be the only guideline for analyzing competition.
  3. The phrase count kind of addresses the ‘quantity’ of competition. But what about the ‘quality’ of competition? From what I know, phrase count includes any indexed page that has in its text the keyword phrase you are looking for in that same order. It DOES NOT tell you if these sites have the keyword in the title tag, H1 tag, meta tags, hyperlinks, URL etc. etc. This is what paid keyword tools like MNF and Market Samurai (MS) do. The ‘strength of competition’ figure in MNF (abbreviated as SOC) takes some of the above mentioned parameters in to consideration. MNF shows SOC by using 3 colors: green for easy, yellow for intermediate difficulty and red for very difficult. MS shows a variety of other parameters like number of backlinks, domain age, links from authority directories etc. etc. as well. Again, they use the same 3 colors to show level of ease/difficulty. The more green you see in the competition, the better! These tools (and probably others that I have never used) give you an idea about your competition.
  4. Again, if you are starting out, shoot for a keyword with not too much competition both quantity and quality wise. With MNF, go no further than yellow!
  5. We are still not done! Once you find the above parameters to be doable, you need to look at the CURRENT rankings for that search phrase. What are the top 4-5 websites? Here are some of the things that come into my head as I’m typing this.
    1. Are they all authority sites with 1000s of indexed pages and millions of backlinks? Even if they are, that doesn’t mean you should keep away from them. Amazon is a perfect example that has high PR, high trust rank (whatever that is), a lot of pages and a lot of backlinks. But people (including myself) beat Amazon easily. However, if a particular authority site is laser targeted to the exact keyword you are trying to target, that may be a different story.
    2. How optimized are their ranking pages for the keyword of your interest?
      1. Title tag
      2. Meta Description tag
      3. Domain name/Page name – URL
    3. You can see all above 3 things on the search results page itself. Now you should also click in to each website and look at the following factors
      1. H1, H2, H3 tags
      2. Keyword richness in content
      3. Images – ALT tags
      4. Hyperlinks etc.
    4. Are the above parameters optimized or not? If they are very well optimized, then you may have a hard time beating them if you are just starting out. We want to find ‘competition’ that is not well optimized.
    5. What about the number of backlinks to the competition? This really doesn’t matter if their on page optimization is not that good. In the example that I show in the video the well optimized #1 non-authority site with an exact match domain (EMD) beats not so optimized authority sites with tons of PR and backlinks (for the search term flip video reviews). However, if their on page optimization is also good and they have tons of backlinks pointing to them, that may be another indication that we should keep away from it. The general consensus is that if your competition has 200-300 backlinks (to the exact page – not the domain), you have a winner. But as I have shown above, you may be able to handle more backlinks than that if their on page factors are not so good.
As you can see, I have explained competition analysis in quite some depth. That’s because it is very important. Sure you can do a lot more analyses and it shouldn’t end here. But for those who are not targeting $5K/month keywords, this should be plenty.


  1. Do you see a lot of Google adwords for that search phrase?
  2. Does Google Adwords Keywords Tool say there is a lot of competition for this phrase?
  3. Are there many affiliate websites already promoting products with this or closely related keywords?
  4. Do potential products on ClickBank have a high gravity?
  5. Are there products on Amazon? What about customer reviews?
  6. Does Detecting Online Commercial Intention: Audience Intelligence: adCenter Labs say it has a high commercial intent?
  7. Do you have to convince the buyer (e.g. you can save gas by converting your car to run on water) or is the buyer already convinced/desperate and addicted to the product you’re trying to sell (e.g. product name keywords (PNK)?
  8. Are there genuine products that will truly provide a solution to the searcher (e.g. home remedy for acne cure) related to the keyword you are going to target?
  9. Is there already a ton of free information available on the web? With physical products, you will not have to worry about this.
I believe I have covered keyword research in sufficient depth for anybody that is not targeting $5K/month keywords. As I said at the beginning, this is a crucial step. Get it wrong and everything downstream becomes more difficult.


Once you have selected your keyword, your next step is domain name selection. I am yet to give up a good keyword because I could not get a good domain. The more keyword rich and more specific the domain name is, easier your ranking process will be.


Obviously, the most preferred domain name is the exact match domain (EMD) on one of the three top level domains (TLD; i.e: .com, .net, .org).

Sticking with the example of flip video reviews, that would be flipvideoreviews.com, flipvideoreviews.net, or flipvideoreviews.org.

I have an exact match .info which is #1. Obviously, I built this site when I was starting my IM carrier about 3 years ago and did not want to spend on the .net or .com (honestly I don’t remember if those were available). My feeling is that I have to continuously give it content (posts) or backlinks and if not it falls in the rankings. I have #1s in .com, .net and .org. I have a feeling those are more resilient. However, I CANNOT come in to a scientific conclusion about this because my sample size is very small and the levels of competition are different among the different websites.

However, my advice as well as the general consensus is that you should stick with the TLDs if you are looking at building a long term business.



What do you do if the EMDs are gone? You have 3 options. Either you look for E-M-D, prefixEMD or EMDsuffix. I’m going to list my personal preferences below. Different people have different points of views. This is mine. I suggest you look at the examples I have given and make an intelligent decision as to what you feel suits best for your particular situation.
  • E-M-D : e.g. flip-videoreviews.com (one hyphen is better than two hyphens).
Here are some examples of hyphenated domain names ranking at the top
  • EMDsuffix : e.g. flipvideoreviewssite.com, EMDinfo.com, EMDX (flipvideoreviewsX.com – I have personally not used this type of domain. But do a search for tinnitus miracle on Google and you will see EMDV, EMDZ and EMDJ on the first page – EMDV ranks above EMD; EMDbonus and EMDreview rank above EMDZ and EMDJ; I did not spend time to look at their on page or off page optimization)



The big question is OK but what’s the easiest? I’m sorry I don’t know a concrete answer. But what I do know is that it doesn’t matter a lot. What matters is you pick one and get on with it! Since we are going to optimize other factors as much as possible and we have immaculately researched our keywords with in depth competition analysis, we should be able to make up for an non-perfect domain name.


That’s it for today guys. If and when I remember more things, I will be sure to update.


Thank you everybody for the encouraging words.

Update - March 21st

I just answered a question and I think it's a little important















































  • I have already talked about the kw density, distribution of kw, LSI etc. I’ll talk about the post body under the following aspects: subheadings (H tags); hyperlinks; text decoration; images; tags/meta tags; sticky post; scheduling posts
      • 1 heading at the top with H1 tags – should contain/or start with the 1ry kw e.g. Kids Karaoke Machine Reviews – Different types of Kids Karaoke Machines available
      • 1 H2 heading with theme kw
      • 1-2 H2/H3 headings with 1ry/2ry kw
One in the first sentence with the 1ry kw pointing to the same post
One with the theme kw pointing to the same post (the way I see it, you’re telling Google “this post is about the 1ry kw, but it is also about the theme kw”)
One with the theme kw pointing to the main domain/homepage and/or different post (again you’re telling Google “that post is about the 2ry kw, but it is also about the theme kw”)
One with a 2ry kw pointing to the relevant post
This way at least 3-4 posts will have an outgoing link and an incoming link with the anchor text as ‘theme kw’
– make the 1ry kw bold once; and italicized or underlined once

I download royalty free images from the web (morgueFile free photos for creatives by creatives and stock.xchng - the leading free stock photography site are good examples) or purchase them from stock image sites and name them with 1ry kw e.g. kids-karaoke-machine-reviews.jpg
Then I insert the relevant image to each post and put the 1ry kw as the ALT tag

I use 2 – one is the 1ry kw and the 2nd is the theme kw – again, I think this tells Google that the whole theme is about our theme kw. However, the general belief is that SEs nowadays don’t give a lot of significance to these tags. But you’re not losing anything by doing this. Some people like to add more tags thinking you will rank for all those kw but another school of thought is that you should keep them focused.
– I set the post optimized for the theme kw as the sticky post. You can do this under Publish --> Visibility --> Public --> Stick the post to the front page
- I schedule the 5 posts to be posted at like day 1, day 2, day 6, day 12, and day 21 or something. I just do whatever comes to my mind at that time, no concrete rules here.


  • I nofollow the link to my RSS/subscribe on the homepage. Thesis gives an option in its dashboard for you to nofollow this. There may be plugins to do this for generic WP themes or you can manually add the rel="nofollow" attribute to the code if you can find the place.

  • A kw relevant page doesn’t only get links from other relevant websites but also link out to other relevant websites
  • So link out to authority sites/pages relevant to your theme – Wikipedia, About.com, CNN etc.
  • I usually have this in my footer and make sure I no follow them
  • Some people also have a separate page listing these relevant pages
If you haven’t written different meta descriptions for each post, this is the time to do it.
I check everything again and if everything looks good, I then go to Settings Privacy settings and ‘unblock the search engines’.
Affiliate links – I only add my affy links after the SEs have indexed my sites. I would also go and do my product review or whatever also after that.

A lot of people talk about kw research, On Page SEO and Off Page SEO. But not many address the ‘social interactions’ that should take place inside your site. Now the internet is all about interaction right? And you should facilitate this interaction inside your website also by all means. Google recognizes this using bounce rate and retention rate (as far as I know).

gives an idea about how many pages of your site does the typical visitor look at before he/she leaves it? The more the better. But instead, what we do is we give an affy link right on the home page and facilitate his/her leaving our site immediately. What I do is I send them to a 2nd page and that’s where my review is. I say something attention grabbing and ask them to go to this page to read a review of the most popular 3 products or whatever.

is how long they spend on your site. There are two methods that I employ to increase their retention. One is ask them to watch a video the other is asking them to make a comment. This is why I asked you to leave the commenting open during configuring WP. But you have to moderate them and manually approve the comments so that spammers will be kept out. I also respond to the comments and try and get a 2 way communication going. Here is something a little grey hat that I do to get the ball rolling. To encourage people to make comments, I make a controversial comment to begin with. Then I’d wait a couple of day and see if anybody responds. If nobody does, I go in there with another fake identity and responds to the first comment igniting more fire. Usually after that there are plenty of people making comments and the cycle goes on. Not only does this increase the retention rate but I think Google also recognizes that there is a dialogue going on and rewards it by giving higher rankings. I have a couple of sites at the top that outrank huge relevant authority sites with tons of backlinks etc. etc. The only way I can explain how I beat them is the comments on my site. This is a HUGE on page SEO tip. This might even be the most important SEO tip of this whole thread. How many people will use it? I don’t know! But if you do, you are bound to see the rewards.

Another thing you can do is encourage people to retweet, like on FB and Digg your posts. I have tried a couple of WP plugins for this in the past. I'll be honest here. Nobody retweeted, liked or dugg my content I was heart broken. Don't ask me why. May be it's the kind of crowd my niches attract! I was only left with the Tweets that I did myself. That's part of Off Page SEO, I'll talk about it there (hopefully I'll remember to do so).

It's important that you learn some of these basics, but it is also equally important that you don't spend too much time analyzing things leading to analysis paralysis. At one point, just say enough and just do it.

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  • I'm waiting patiently..
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    • gotta have Thanks to your post first then read. Glad to see your sincerity
  • Congrats, any WSO coming out of this post?
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  • Chucky, I want to thank you for sharing your story here. I havent watched the videos that you kindly put together yet but I will; I really enjoyed reading what you have written though and can see that you deserve great success and I am certain you will get more of it. Congats and well done, you deserve it.
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    • This is going to be my first post on this forum and this will be closley watching your thread, I am in the same situation and hope I can have success like you.

      I cant wait to see your new posts, looks very interesting.
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  • Good Job Chucky. It looks like you're ready to do a little outsourcing!

    PS...there's not even an outsourcing link in my sig...crazy i know. But seriously it would help you a lot if you're still in school, and slow. I'm pretty slow at getting stuff done myself and outsourcing tasks like SEO, and content has helped a lot.

    Food for thought.
  • wow very inspiring, if you dont mind me asking, how many sites do you have to attain that much income?
  • Nice post.

    I'm thinking about trying to make some money like this, though I am trying offline at the moment.
  • Thanks, bookmarked this for when I get some time great post and very motivating. There are days where I get so close to hitting my first 4 figure day, but I can't really do much work until this semester of school is over as I am studying hard for my MCATs and getting ready for med school admissions. Ok well back I am back to studying now, no more procrastinating on the WF.
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  • Congrats. Hope my earnings will reach these levels on day.
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    • Hi, nice post and impressive results. Was wondering if you could share some of your backlinking strategy. Do you outsource? Manual or automated? What type of links? How many?

      Would really appreciate if you could give some insight. Thanks!
    • Inspiring! Like the part about sticking with one system. It's amazing how you start seeing results when you focus all your efforts on one system for a few months rather than jumping around.
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  • Very smart post. Great example of how to establish trust and create an awesome reputation.
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    • Looking forward to your next SEO lesson!
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  • Hope it doesn't take another 3 months for the next post =P
  • Thank you all for your comments. I'll try to answer some of the questions some of you have raised below.

    Thanks!
    Let's see how good the content will be once I finish translating everything in my head in to words. If it is good, may be I will launch a WSO in 2013 when I have time. But who knows? By then, I might get a 60 hours/week job and will be even more tight for time than now :confused:

    Thanks! I'm sure everybody deserves it as much as I do.

    Thanks Victor! Actually I do a lot of outsourcing on Odesk (and my wifey ). I have spent over $5000 in outsourcing by now. But the beauty of internet marketing is that I have gotten like a 2000% ROI. What other ethical business model would give you that right? I outsource content writing, backlinking and starting recently even making my websites. I taught a kid in the neighborhood to configure my sites and upload content the way I want. It took a lot of time and patience. He is still not perfect but hopefully he'll get there soon.

    Hey, thanks!
    As I said, the 20K that I made in November was an exception. My regular income is like 7K/month from IM. Unfortunately, about 5K of this comes from 2 sites, another one makes like 1K and others make like $200 - 300/month. This is not very good. I would rather have 10-20 sites making $300 - 500 each rather than 2 sites making 5K. What I have right now is kinda risky

    Thanks!
    If I were you, I would not HOPE, but be absolutely certain that I will make XX amount of $$ by the year 20XX. Like someone said, make a decision that you will do it. Have absolutely no doubt. Visualize it in your head. Think of it day and night. How will your life be when you achieve it? Write it down. Read it every once in a while. Add more to it with time. Get emotional about it. Get your adrenaline rushing thinking about it. Talk about it. Tell people that you're going to do it by 20XX. Then you have no option but to do it. I have done it; hundreds are doing it everyday; so can you!

    Go to YouTube and search for videos from ; Search for MP3s from him; read his stuff on the internet. Buy/borrow his books. I'm sure there are others like Tony Robins that I'm not aware of.

    Good luck!

    Thanks! Yes I definitely will in the coming days. But before that, I need to talk about kw research and on page SEO

    LOL. Seriously! Me too!
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    • Aha! The hidden secret!
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    • What a brilliant very large! post, thank you so much Chucky. Some of what you say is so resonant with me, really human with our weaknesses all admitted and factored in. Gives such encouragement.
  • Nice recap.

    I agree that I would rather spread out my income over multiple sites. This way you can be covered if for some reason Google turns the screws on one of your sites for whatever reason.

    Personally I have built income through niche blogs and steady content development. If you do the proper keyword research and find buyer ready terms, thats where the money is!

    Good luck this year!
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  • Update:

    I just finished half of the Keyword research module. Don't want to post anything without double checking them (too sleepy now; almost 1am now). Will post the keyword research modules sometime tomorrow CST.

    I thought it would be only fair to show my procedure using both paid tools (I use MNF) and free tools so that even those that are starting out and don't have the paid tools yet are able to get some value out of it.

    Thanks and talk to you guys tomorrow!
    Chucky
  • Congrats to you Chucky and will be definitely following ya!

    Sure I have my own way of skinning my cat, but like to learn yours too. 2 ways to skin a cat is better than 1 way to skin a cat

    I'm curious, are your 'larger sites' (the ones with 30+ pages) informational sites or niche sites?

    Are your sites based on WP or static sites?

    Thanks!
    The KID
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  • Looking forward to it Chucky!
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  • Nice work Chucky, and keep the good info coming!
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    • Thanks Chucky,
      Your documentation is helpful as both a yardstick and a road map. It helps a lot to be able to gauge where I am from a more solid perspective than I had before your article.

      Cheers,
      Alex
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  • I have never subscribed to a thread but want to make sure I can find this and continue learning more about what you are doing.... now I know how to subscribe..... LOL
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  • Are these sites still making you money each month ?..if so how much ?
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    • I believe I answered that question in the videos. I don't make nearly as much on a regular month from these sites. That is because I targeted black Friday products right from the go.

      I was planning on talking about this during on page optimization. But since you raised the point, I'll briefly go through it now.

      The MAJOR trick is this. When it comes to Black Friday, people (including myself) search for 'product name keyword + Black Friday Deals' etc. You want to optimize your pages for the right products and exploit the tons of traffic you're going to get on Black Friday and then throughout the month of Christmas.

      There you go! That's a $100K tip right there!
  • Already great advice and information, and it seems you will be adding much more. I'll check back for sure!
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  • I reveal 2 niches (flip video cameras and kids karaoke machines) and 4 potential keyword phrases. For some of them 'exact match domains' are still available.
  • No doubt, the more traffic sources the merrier
  • Whoa! That's a lot of information you've given on kw research. I didn't get to go through all the videos because they were a little on the long side. But will definitely do when I have time tomorrow.

    Also look forward to the 'write up' you're going to do a kw research.
    Thanks again!

    The Kid
  • Thanks Chucky, an ode to persistence and simplsity.
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  • oh and your current basket is fine, just add a few more of those 'to do' sites and things will balance out and grow.
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    • Video 4 is not playing properly after about 30 seconds and problems with video 5 too.
  • The last three videos are not playing properly for me, I do not have problems with other videos.
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  • Yes same here, the sound goes off.
  • No sound
  • Thank you for sharing your experiences. I'm new to the forum and your story is providing me with a great boost of inspiration. Here's to your continuing success!
  • Do you find all your Amazin sites are winners? A few of mine are on the first page but make no money even though traffic is going to Amazon.
  • Great post! Hope to read your next post.
  • Thanks everybody for checking the videos out. I'll start checking them ASAP.
  • Hey guys,

    The last 3 videos seems to have a problem as pointed by many of you. The original videos on my hard disk are fine. But when I upload them on to YouTube, something seems to be going wrong.

    Working on it and hopefully I don't have to shoot the videos again

    Sorry about the inconvenience!
  • - Some of the keyword research videos had problems with sounds, but they are all fixed now. Thanks everybody for pointing it out.

    I brought the videos to a different post because they were taking up a lot of space on the original post. Unfortunately, the last two videos are still not fixed. Will work on that tomorrow!

    I also go through competition analysis etc. I also show why I don't want to target a particular keyword (flip video cameras) while I WANT to target the other keywords.


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  • Hi Chucky,

    As you can see, I've been following your thread religiously! I don't leave a lot of comments, but I do read WF every now and again. The keyword research component you have added is outstanding to say the least.

    I don't think I have seen anybody addressing keyword research in such depth. The examples that you show are also very good. I knew about the dog training site, but others are new to me.

    I have one question. You say you look at keyword density on the competitors. What's the exact keyword density you look for or what's the density you would use in your sites?

    Wishing you all the best in 2011,
    The KIDO
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  • Chucky, congratulations on your success and thanks for sharing your story with us.
    Such threads are really valuable. You have outlined a great plan to make money
    online with different sources and you are asking nothing in return. This is not
    something we come across frequently.
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  • Hi Chucky,

    Congrats on your success, I just have some questions to ask you. You said that you're sites are similar to sniper sites with 4-5 posts on them, but only 2 of them bring you the most of your income, are these two sites 4-5 posts too or are they the bigger ones?

    Thanks
  • Oh no! I've never been into this thread before.. I supposed to open the CPA section and it got me here. I got it lost after few readings and checked the CPA section it wasn't there. My laptop history saved me!

    I rested IM for a while since I got frustrated and am now going to try it again. And this got me. A very valuable information! I want to thank you for this. I'm starting again to learn. And yes, having a positive mindset can bring Success! And definitely, im following you now!
  • hmmm... niche or information? The way I see it, a niche site essentially has information right? I mean they are definitely not like wikipedia. The majority of pages are meant to be search engine fodder and don't necessarily have affiliate links. All pages essentially target the same product.

    Let's take an example. I'm not in this specific niche yet, but I'm in a similar one. Let's say I want to promote the Xbox Kinect. I will have a sticky post about the Xbox Kinect on my home page and then I will have other pages talking about Xbox360, Kinect and everything that is related to it.

    However, I will not have 'information' about Nintendo Wii or Sony PSP on this site.

    Is that what you mean?

    All but my first site are WP based.

    I just logged in to my Amazon account to try and give you some statistics. I pulled up the "Tracking ID Summary for March 22nd". I usually have one tracking ID per site. It says "Displaying only the 9 of your 37 tracking IDs that have clicks" which means I probably have 37 websites promoting Amazon products (had no idea I had so many).

    The 9 sites have had 53 clicks and 2 orders (4% conversion rate - not bad), and 3 items shipped (2 orders and 3 shipments - probably because a previous order got shipped y'day) sold $556.01 worth of stuff and earned $36.15 in commissions.

    Hope that answers your question. But I do want you to understand that only 9 out of the 37 sites have clicks simply because I have done nothing more than building those other websites. No off page SEO has been done. Had I done my usual optimization on all those sites, then I would have expected at least 20 of them to have had clicks instead of just 9.

    The fact that they don't make money - check out the section I have added on 'Commercial Intent'. Are you in the right market? Are you targeting buying kw?

    Thank you Kido! Appreciate your comments.

    No I don't calculate their keyword density. I do a ctrl-F on firefox and search for the kw. Then I press 'highlight all'. Then I just get a rough idea about where/how many times the kw is used.

    About my sites, I will address them when I talk about on page SEO

    That's it for now guys, will answer other questions tonight! Thanks!
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  • Thanks Chucky! Makes sense, will wait till you do your on page SEO write up for the rest.
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    • Hi Chucky,


      I have a few ? for you..so when you do keyword research you check to see if the keyword has less than "100,000" and 300 links or less correct ?

      Also do you check the anchor text links to the site that is ranking # 1 ?
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    • it's very interesting i follow you!!!
    • thanks for sharing your story m8.
      very important information here, its great for a newbie like me .
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    • Great info. Five years ago I built my page and hoped to do some money but it was waste of time. I still have the domain, I 'll do it again.

      I've learned more here than from all kind of ebooks I've bought under the last five years. Most of them were pure rubbish.

      Thanks - I love this forum
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    • Very interesting read for me and I am going to re-read it again tomorrow so it sinks in. Only thing I make money from is my Youtube account so it is all Adsence. However I make in the neighborhood of $80 to $90 a month so I was shocked how little you are making?

      However it shows me I should get my butt in gear and start doing something!
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    • Hi Chucky,

      Since you are putting up 5 posts - sometimes 20.

      Couldn't all this be done easier with a mini-site rather than
      a wp blog.

      The blog seems a bit overkill for such a small amount of posts.


      .
    • Guys, this whole thread IS a WSO! Remember what the "S" stands for? If this thread doesn't qualify as special, I don't know what in tarnation would. What makes this thread standout above the vast majority of others is that not only is it FREE but like jmorris said, the VALUE is amazing and HUGE! As for myself and I am sure countless others here, I have NO income NO job, NO money for buying useless wso's that make money only for the sellers.

      Well said, Chucky has raised the bar for WSO standards...

      One of the most awesome aspects for me here, is all of the people who are taking ACTION with this & posting their results. How many wso's have you seen where that took place? I don't remember ONE and I have been here for a while.

      Talk about over delivering, DOOOOOOOD...

      LOL WUT?! A 60 hours/week job? WHY?????? You have just CREATED MANY jobs here for people who desperately need work! You have just achieved what VERY few people will ever achieve by giving MASSIVE value to a LOT of people who could not afford to buy it. In fact we need to put your avatar through photoshop & add some wings and a cape... I am seriously thinking about changing my sig now because it goes against everything in this thread...
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    • Nice post... go after low traffic, high cost items like jewelry.

      Going to refer back to this one.
    • GREAT!!! love your post.its very helpful.keep guiding us.
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    • interesting

      i found exact search 18k and there is one domain left so I pick up. I have added 5 articles into my blog. I don't know it's gonna work but thank you for these tutorials.

      I use serp attack to change market samurai software.

      I almost give up to get 100$ per month (first goal)

      my keyword has 487,000 competition for "keyword"
      and there are 7 google adwords ads when I see at google first page

      here the detail at the first page (I use "keyword")

      #1 --> blog PR 3 Title OK Description NO
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      #2 --> blog PR 4 Title OK Description OK (keywordblog.com)
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      #3 --> blog PR 0 Title OK Description OK (keyword.com)
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      #4 --> youtube PR 4 Title OK Description NO
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      #5 --> hubpages PR 2 Title OK Description OK
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      #6 --> forum PR 0 Title NO Description NO
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      #7 --> blog PR 4 Title OK Description OK (keywordinfo.com)
      ------------------------------------------------------
      #8 --> blog PR 2 Title NO Description OK
      ------------------------------------------------------
      #9 --> ehow PR 3 Title NO Description OK
      ------------------------------------------------------
      #10--> blog PR 3 Title NO Description OK (keyword.org.uk)

      ******************
      ====================
      update all my articles have indexed by google but it won't show at search engine page....


      what is your advise...?

      thank you

      kaitokid
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    • hello, thanks for this great writeup. i had a question about competition. im entering my keywords into goole, and none come close to 30k results. for a matter of fact, there isnt any keyword/phrase that i can come up with that gives me anything close to 30k search results. is there another way to access competition, or am i doing something wrong?

      thanks.
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    • hello i see you proff what i want to know is how is this made possiblem to do this to make easy money online is it the software mnf
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    • Hi Chucky,

      I have two questions that have been bugging me recently, I would greatly appreciate if you commented on them.

      Question 1:

      I want to run a new website in the weight loss niche, I have already done my keyword research and I have been able to come up with a list of awesome keywords that are highly searched for but have low competition.

      The thing is, those keywords are sometimes unrelated to each other. Some of them are generic weight loss keywords, e.g., how to lose weight easily, while others are specific, for example, XXX product reviews.

      All of the keywords on my list have at least 50 exact searches per day and my question to you is, should I target just one particular keyword and build my whole site around that term, or can I just select, say, the top 100 keywords from my list and target all of them? The top 100 have less than 200k phrase match results on Google, which is awesome.

      Question 2:

      I like to write articles for backlinking purposes, however, I am a little lost trying to figure how many spun articles to create for one site. Should I create tens of spun articles or just one to submit to all the article directories?

      Say I have a Wordpress site with 50 posts, all related to one main keyword. How many spun articles would you usually create for such a site?

      Thank you a ton,
      Trevor
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  • Update:

    Video 4 of kw research also fixed. Will have the 5th video also ready within the next 2 hours.
    Thanks!
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    • Great stuff Chucky! Looking forward to the SEO part of your guide. You mention some of the sites are 'sniper' sites consisting of 4 or so pages. How optimistic are you they can last the test of time and be present for a prolong period?
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    • Thanks for the great information Chucky!

      Your post inspired me to sign up for Amazon Affiliate, setup a domain name, hosting, and get my site setup! Still a lot of SEO work to go, but excited to get the ball rolling.
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  • That's exactly how I started 3 years ago. First I tried to sell ClickBank products, I was getting traffic, but no conversions. So I thought may be if I put some adsense ads, I will at least make a few pennies. That was my first money online as well.

    Even if it is climbing the highest mountain in the world, you have to take that first step. And you've done it. If you had the guts to take that first step (domain name, hosting account, website design etc.) you are already ahead of many others that are yet to take ACTION.

    Set up a target, set up a deadline and be ABSOLUTELY sure you're going to achieve it. Think of it day and night, write it down, make a video of it, get emotional about it and you would be where I am before you know it.

    Good luck!

    I just went to those sites and checked before I gave you an answer. My highest earners are small sites. Both of them has only 5 pages (posts) of content. One is #1, the other is #4 for a high search volume kw.

    Great to hear that man! That is exactly what I expected from this thread. Wish you all the best!
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    • WOW, amazing! I'm gonna try the same asap

      thanks for everything!
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    • Hey chucky...it's great words you mentioned here pal. Really inspiring..I wish you all the best for your future. I wish your every month is as pleasant and rewarding as November
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  • Hi Chucky..

    This is a great thread. Thanks for all the time and effort you've put in so far (a lot!!).
    I'll be waiting patiently for your backlinking, and interlinking strategies, hopefully soon.

    Best,
    Liz
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    • Thank you Liz, it's comments like that of yours that makes the time worth it. I see this as a great opportunity to organize everything in my messy head into a nice manuscript

      In fact, there is a lot more on page and off page SEO than I initially anticipated and it takes time to put them down in an organized manner that everyone can understand. The first post on SEO may not be before Friday I'm afraid!
  • hmm.....
    I will try it later.
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    • OK good luck!

      But keep in mind that ""

      I didn't say that, I'm just quoting what the great have said in the past!
  • Chucky, thats cool, it inspires me

    I started my IM business 1 month ago and got only 10 page view per day only (yes, i am not smart enough). I hope someday i can make decent income like you do

    Would like to ask a) how many website od you have, b) average page # and c) hows their daily traffic.
  • Amazing thread and very inspiring
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  • Congratulations Chucky.

    You're one rich student. Don't go spending on all the booze and partying now. CGPA matters a LOT, trust me.

    What's interesting is the Day Y, which is about off page SEO, aka backlinks. I believe you are doing grayhat stuff like AMR, SB, automated tools.

    Otherwise, it's the outsourcing.
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    • It's funny you should say that!

      2-3 years ago, I watched Amit Mehta (About Me | Super Affiliate Mindset) talk about how he started his IM carrier while being a graduate student. That was a big inspiration to me. His story told me that was POSSIBLE for one to be successful in IM while being in school and maintaining a decent GPA. That's the beauty of this business. Anybody can do it as long as he has a few hours to spare in the day.
      Another example that comes to my mind is Avery Berman, but I'm sure there are plenty of other students in IM that have tasted more success than I have.
      No man, I'm not that kinda guy that would spend all the money. Look at my piggy bank avatar
  • That's some awesome give-back Chucky, thanks. Like a lot of people I am waiting for the off-site SEO part because that is still the biggest challenge for most of us!
  • Thanks for sharing Chucky - great post.

    I have just spent the last few hours going through it and the videos. It was very interesting, informative and inspiring.

    I'm planning to make good use of all the ideas and resources.
  • Ha ha you didn't watch the 1st video
    Main income is from CB and CJ. I have mainly targeted Christmas gifts on Amazon. But recently I started to target some evergreen products on Amazon as well

    I think the BIG TIP is going to be in ON PAGE SEO - believe it or not. In off-page SEO too, I do a few things differently, but the basics are the same I believe.
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    • Thanks!

      Actually I watched the1rst video but I didnt remember you said that most of your income was from a source or an other..

      I'm gonna reach you asap
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  • Hi Chucky,

    What an inspiration :-) Hopefully I can also be as successful as you. Question from me, how far off did you start to build your seasonal sites (Christmas, Black Friday, etc)?

    Regards,
    Jep
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    • Some of them were targeted for 2009 (I think I started them in like July August of that year) but were only around position 5, another was built in 2008. But the one that made the highest sales were built Feb-March last year I think. If you're targeting less competitive kw, with an EMD, April-May is plenty of time
  • just an excellent post all around. That little selfish part of me wishes people would stop talking up the benefits of amazon aff marketing but the rest of me knows that it's all good! Congrats to your success!
  • Great Post. I see you're in IL. HAve you made plans for a great holiday season next year without Amazon. If so, how are you going to recoup that revenue next year?
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    • I was waiting for someone to ask that

      I'm a student and that's the reason I'm in Illinois. God knows where I'll be after graduation. Anyways, I have family all over who would love to give me a helping hand
  • Hi Chucky!

    I want to congratulate you for your achievements!

    I have a couple of questions:

    1. You say you have many checklists on MS Excel sheets and that you would share those. Are you still going to do that?

    2. I'm really interested to know, in a more detailed way, how you do on page SEO. You also mention that you spend a lot of time on the interlinking structure. Are you going to address this?

    Thanks!
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    • Hi Chucky...I have One more request...could you make a video on how you check competition on more competitive keywords ? ...like keywords with 25,000 -50,000 + searches per month..using the free tools please
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    • It's coming soon
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  • It's up to the company to nab you for using their trademark. You could be forced to give up the domain, pay fines, lawyer fees etc. Research this outside of this thread and then decide for yourself if it's worth it. I believe its Technically NOT ok to use their trademark if you're selling a product in the same niche. I would just avoid it. There are so many non trademarked keywords to go for.
  • Oh and by the way.... Congrats to Chucky on such a good year, especially while still a student!

    Looking forward to your future updates
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    • Without a doubt, with ALL MY HEART
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    • Thanks for the reply! Like you mentioned "deskjetreviews . com/hpdeskjet5678/" is the way around it. I'm going to stay away from it but I have to admit, what a tease it is but I don't think it's worth the hassle.

      Thanks Chucky... In the example you gave, that is a legit use of their name because Apple doesn't have a monopoly on the word iPad and the intent of use behind it is stating he's a fan of the product. I'm not a lawyer, obviously, but this is what I've read. Now if it was, appleipad . com that's another story. This is where my question was since my intent would be to sell the same product mentioned in the domain. However, like you suggested, I'm going to stay away from it. It's really not worth growing a empire with an achilles heal.

      It's just huge tease because there are some GREAT EMD domains out there for model numbers which would make it easy to out rank some of the big dogs on page 1 with 1 million back links, 8 year old domains, and 90k index pages. However, I suppose we just need to put the work in and do it right!

      Thanks again!
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  • Hi Chucky,

    Thanks for all the great info in this thread and cogratulations on how your business is going.

    I can see you are generating alot of your revenue from clickbank, cj and amazon. All essentially affiliate marketing. I was wondering if you could give any advice on the sort of content you will put on a page that you are targeting to sell a product.

    For example, have you done much study on copywirting or pre-selling or has this helped?

    I mainly use adsense and would be very interested in any tips on how you write content or set up the site layout to move people to buy (which is less a part of the adsense game).

    Thanks for any help.
  • Wow...seriously, very inspiring. I need this to boost up my motivation.

    Thanks.
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  • nice one chucky great stuff

    marcus
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  • Wow...! this is amazing....SEO is the most important to get the 1st PR in google...i will practice it...thnks Chucky
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    • Hey Chucky,

      I want to thank you for all the information you have provided! Very useful.

      I am starting to implement your strategies and I want to know what you think about my discoveries thus far. I am going to go ahead and out my niche so that I can get your opinion.

      KeyWord: "tailgating grills" 35.1k competition


      Exact Local Search: ~1000
      EMD: tailgating - grills dot com

      Can you tell me if I am on the right track? The only problem I see is that there arent any supporting 2ry keywords that I can easily dominate. So I would not launch a batch like you have.

      The wonderwheel produced - tailgating supplies, camping grills, portable grills. But these keywords are out of my range.

      Should I launch this site and concetrate on tailgating grills?

      I would monitize with Amazon, Adsense and a ClickBank product (Competition BBQ Secrets) of low gravity (11.21)

      I appreciate your help!
  • HOLY MOLY Chucky that's a ton of onpage seo and you aren't even done. Phew! I only skimmed through it and already saw many things I didn't know. I'm going to have to print it out, study it and get back to you with some questions.
    You have a good weekend man
    KIDO
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    • Thanks man!

      Will be updating the rest of the On Page SEO shortly!
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  • So no off page SEO? IMO thats the only part that really matters... Id love to see how you do off page.
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    • In my VERY HUMBLE opinion, that's a misconception. It's NOT the ONLY part that matters. The better your on page SEO, the less work you have to do with off page SEO

      If that statement of mine is wrong, so are people like Brad Fallon and Dan Thies

      soon
  • Ya I think position #15 (not page 15) is great. Never had that much success in my life!

    Not sure what you mean by "move up one by one"?

    I don't do product names anymore, but that's a personal thing.

    Good luck, you seem to be on the right pathway!

    Also, the more sound your on page SEO, the less off page SEO you have to do.

    Thesis! That's a WP theme (premium) You seemed to have missed that

    nope, CJ
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    • Man, you left out the best part on off-page SEO.:p

      When are you adding it?
  • good stuff,

    I glad you put the time and effort into this

    how long did it take to write this
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    • I just finished an exam and have some free time. About 4-5 evenings so far I think
  • Guys, if you have questions, please post them on the thread here and not PM me OK? Thanks!
  • This is an amazing thread, with solid information. Thank you for taking the time man!
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  • Hi Chucky!

    Once more thank you for the valuable information regarding On Page SEO.

    I have a question:

    Besides About Us, Contact, Disclosure, Privacy Policy, Terms of Use and Sitemap, do have any other page (not posts...) with content? Do you optimize any page for a given keyword?
  • It was a long post,, but well worth reading. Thank you!

    I agree with not putting alll eggs in same basket.
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  • great thread.

    also one should just not rely on a few sites for all their income, but to diversify traffic from just google, a hard lesson i learned this year.
  • Just edited and added something I forgot in the original on page SEO section. As and when these things come to my head, I will go on and add them.


    • I nofollow the link to my RSS/subscribe on the homepage. Thesis gives an option in its dashboard for you to nofollow this. There may be plugins to do this for generic WP themes or you can manually add the rel="nofollow" attribute to the code if you can find the place.
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  • Great inspirational post Chucky. Waiting for off page SEO tips and strategies.
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  • hard to grasp..................
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    • I agree that it is hard to grasp if you're starting out. We've all been there and have conquered it.

      As someone said, there is no easy button. YOU have to learn it, YOU have to do the kw research, YOU have to do .....that's the only way YOU will be successful.

      Even if you outsource everything, YOU have to at least know the theory behind it to be able to give instructions.

      If you have any specific questions, shoot them.... even climbing mount Everest begins with that first step you take



  • I want to say one thing before I even start this section. There is a lot of stuff and you can get discouraged if you are just starting out. But what you need to realize is that I didn't do any of this when I was starting out as well. I didn't spend a single dime (except for a domain name and hosting account), I didn't outsource, I didn't have software, I did everything by myself, and I did only a fraction of the things that I'm doing now and I still succeeded. Sure, later on I bought some toys to speed things up. So please don't be discouraged, start small, reinvest your earnings on the business, rinse and repeat, then you can do all the high throughput automation stuff that I do and MORE.

    At the end, I will also tell you what you can do without spending a dime and still be able to dominate a low competition kw to get you started.
    The basics are relatively simple. Build as many links as possible. The more 'good' links you build, the better! I'm going to make a few sub-headings just for the sake of better organization.
    1. Anchor text hyperlinks vs hard URLs
    2. Link diversity
    3. IP diversity
    4. Link velocity
    5. No follow vs do follow
    6. Indexing/strengthening your backlinks
    7. Going high throughput - automation
    8. Minimizing your footprint
    9. Mimicking the 'natural' situation
    10. How I do it now
    11. How I did it when I got started
    12. Here's a plan


    Simply put, the former is better than the latter. But you want a mixture so that it doesn't look too unnatural. I don't use exact figures here like 82.5% of one and 17.5% of the other. I go for anchor text whenever possible and resort to a hard URLs when a particular site doesn't allow hyperlinks.

    Do I vary the anchor text? If you have read a lot of SEO guides, you would have seen people recommending you to vary your anchor text. 60% of the main kw, 20% of that and another 20% of that etc. But if you have read as many SEO guides as I have, you would have also observed that some SEO experts advise against varying your anchor text. I think I have mentioned this earlier, but I'm saying it again. I've heard Terry Kyle saying that he has observed sites losing rankings for the theme kw, when he starts building links with 2ry kw anchor text. This has been my observation too. I've had sites go down to #6 from #2 overnight after building a few links with 2ry kw as anchor text. Was the drop in rankings purely caused by this link building or something else that happened coincidently? I have no idea. But after that, this is the approach I've been taking.
    • Homepage - theme kw anchor text only
    • Sticky post - theme kw anchor text only
    • Other posts with 2ry kw - the bulk have theme kw while some have the relevant 2ry kw (again no breakdown by percentage here; I'm really 'loose' here)
    Hope that makes sense. This is purely my method of skinning the cat and as I've said over and over, there are many methods of skinning a cat. What's important is to not get bogged down comparing and contrasting and spending hours on different methods of doing it, but picking out any one of them and just doing it before your competitor does. If you're not targeting hypercompetitive terms, the chances are that whichever method you pick is going to work.



    This can have multiple meanings. Links from article directories, video sites, social bookmarking etc. is one kind of diversity. Another kind is the location of your link: in text hyperlinks (also known as editorial links) that are in the middle of a paragraph (some people say resource box links also belong to this category); those on sidebars and footers etc.
    Let's try to make a comprehensive list encompassing both kinds.
    1. Social networking - there are different 'departments' to this
      1. Content submission to web 2.0 properties - I'm talking about places like wordpress.com, WikiSpaces, LiveJournal and Squidoo here
      2. Social bookmarking - manual vs automated/ High PR vs low PR/ Tier 1 vs Tier 2
      3. Digging (DIGG), Liking (FB) and tweeting - traffic and/or backlinks depending on how you do it
    2. Article directories - the ones worth doing a manual submission/ Tier 1
    3. Blog networks - the better with more PR/trust rank/authority; paid ones/ Tier 1
    4. Article directories/Blog networks - 10,000s of places that you can submit articles to; I'm talking about paid ones like Unique Article Wizard, SEO Link Vine, AMA, Article Marketing Robot etc. and free ones like the Free Traffic System/ Tier 1 vs Tier 2
    5. Video distribution - for traffic and/or backlinks? / Tier 1
    6. Press release submission/ Tier 1
    7. Software directory/PAD file submission/ Tier 1
    8. Forums - Profile links and/or signature/ .com vs .edu/ high PR vs not so high PR/ Tier 1 vs Tier 2
    9. Blog comments - manual vs automated/ .com vs .edu/ high PR vs not so high PR/ Tier 1 vs Tier 2
    10. Web directory submission (can't remember the last time I did that; doesn't mean it doesn't work)
    11. Podcasting - traffic and/or backlinks (never done it; but I know it's powerful) / Tier 1
    12. High PR homepage backlinks/ Tier 1
    13. Your own network for backlinks - hosted on your own server/s/ Tier 1
    14. Guest blog posts (again, never done it - but should) / Tier 1
    15. RSS submissions
    16. Editorial backlinks - inside paragraphs and article resource boxes
    17. Footer, Sidebar/blogroll
    18. Numbered and bulleted lists
    19. Do follow and no follow (I'm including this also here because it adds to the diversity)
    20. IP diversity (again I'm listing it here, but will discuss with more detail later on)
    I'm not going to give you a list of the exact properties I use in each category. I'm sure you can find plenty simply by searching inside WF or on Google. However, I will mention a few important things here that address some of the sections above.

    If you have studied SEO for a while, you know you have to strengthen you backlinks by building more backlinks to them. So out of all the options above, you will have to decide which properties will be used to backlink your money site (Tier 1 backlinks) and which properties would be used to strengthen those backlinks (Tier 2 backlinks). If time and resources were unlimited, ideally you want to use all the properties you can find as Tier 1 backlinks and then all those properties again and again to backlink each one of those Tier 1 backlinks. That is not practical. Therefore what you need to do is to select the higher quality properties as Tier 1 backlinks and the lower quality properties as Tier 2 backlinks.



    To keep it simple, I'm going to say PR is the answer. However, it's not the perfect answer and I don't know a perfect answer. Things like trust rank, relevancy may also matter. But then again, different people have different views on these as well.

    I have added Tier 1 or Tier 1 vs 2 to the end of some of the properties above as a guideline for you to think a little bit about. If you decide a property is 'high quality' then use it as a Tier 1 link. If it is also relatively easy to get many backlinks from that property, consider using it to backlink some of your more authoritative Tier 1 backlinks. This is why I divide article directories and blog networks as Tier 1 properties and Tier 2 properties. EzineArticles, ArticlesBase, GoArticles, Buzzle, Article Dashboard etc. are Tier 1 for me. Among blog networks, Build My Rank is tier 1 for me. The web 2.0 properties are definitely tier 1 for me. However, I use them as tier 2 links as well to backlink some of my better tier 1 links.

    Hope that is not too unclear

    Something I like to mention here is that you don't have to do all of above. As you can see, I have never done some of those in my life. And for some of my sites, I haven't done more than a few of above types while others require more.

    Again, rather than reading and learning forever, you should just get on with it and get the ball rolling. Nobody knows what's exactly correct (except Google I guess). I have seen top SEO experts saying that a link from an EzineArticle is only as good as a forum profile link from a domain with the same PR. I'm not sure I agree with that statement, but then it really doesn't matter. I would go ahead and get a link from each place without arguing with the guy



    I'm not an expert of techy stuff like IP addresses. The way I understand, all our websites are hosted on a computer somewhere and they are called servers. These servers have an address called the IP address. The more diverse the IP addresses of your tier 1 backlink profile, the more popular your site is in Google's eyes; and therefore higher rankings.

    With web 2.0, social bookmarking, video submissions etc., you can only get so many IP diverse links. However, when it comes to privately owned blogs/article directories, forums, blog comments, guest blogging etc., there is almost no limit to the number of IP diverse backlinks you can get. There are many article/blog networks that have many thousands of websites in them or article submission software that will submit to many thousands of them. Unique article wizard, SEO Link Vine, My Article Network, Free Traffic System, Article Marketing Automation, Article Ranks, Niche Press Platinum, SEO Ultimate Network, Article Marketing Robot, Article Post Robot are examples of such systems that I have used at least once (doesn't necessarily mean that I recommend them). That's at least 20K websites (doesn't mean they are IP diverse) and should be enough IP diversity to dominate relatively smaller niches with not too much competition.



    Think about this for a minute. Let's assume a brand new website with a ton of valuable information on 'how to get out of debt' is launched. As the good news about this website spreads, its popularity will increase. If it got 1000 visitors the 1st week, it will be 2000 the 2nd week, 4000 the 3rd week and so on. A backlink under 'natural' conditions would be site A recommending site B by means of a link to site B. As this 'get out of debt' site gets popular, it will also come across web masters and they would genuinely start saying there is this great new site on 'how to get out of debt'. Just like visitors, the speed at which this site gets links will also increase. This is what is termed link velocity.

    You should try and emulate this 'natural' rhythm in your link building campaign. This is why building 5,000 links today and building none for the next two weeks is not good. Either you should build links at an increasing velocity or you should make Google discover them at an increasing velocity. You can do the latter by pinging an increasing number of backlinks everyday.

    You cannot go on building links at an increasing pace forever. The idea is that any new website will have this initial exponential growth and then it wanes off and plateaus. Once it reaches that plateau phase, all you need is maintenance level backlinks. This maintenance level depends on what your competition is doing to maintain their rankings!


    I'm sure all this is fine and works. But trust me, with my kind of schedule, I have never been able to build my links with this kind of increasing velocity. I just build 'em when I have time and I still get some decent success. If I did it at an increasing pace, maybe I would get better results.



    I'm not going to describe to you what each type is. I bring this up because I want to emphasize a point. A lot of people only build Do follow links and don't build no follow links. If they do build the latter, those would be from auto approve blog comment pages that have 100s of spam comments on them. But no follow blog comments from highly authoritative sites are unbelievably powerful. There are many high authority sites that allow anchor text in the comments (where your name goes) and if you look around a little bit you can find many high PR pages where the comments are open. These pages are typically moderated and your comments will be approved only if you make a valid non-spam comment. I have had my sites jump from like #7-8 to #1-3 overnight from a single no follow link like this. If you are still on page 12, the effect may not be the same. There's only one way to find out



    10,000 do follow editorial links on PR4 pages that Google doesn't know of is as good as ZERO links (highly exaggerated example). Google has to crawl them and index them for them to be of any value. First Google has to find out it exists, then depending on various factors, Google will decide to index it or not. If you made the link on the homepage of a highly crawled website, then Google will not have trouble finding it. But what if you build a link on one of those hidden profile pages of a forum? Google has no reason to go in to those dark corners.

    So there are two things: making sure Google finds it and then making sure Google indexes it.
    1. Pinging will help Google find them, and the chances are Google will also index quite a lot of them especially if they are unique content (articles for example). If Google doesn't index them at once, you can ping several times, build a few backlinks to it etc. and try to force Google to index them.
    2. Once they are indexed you can also try to make them more valuable to your money site as a backlink. You can try to increase its PR and/or its strength as a backlink by building Tier 2 backlinks to it. Remember, if it's a profile link, it may never get a PR that shows up as a green bar on the Google tool bar. However, it still acquires PR and you just won't see that. May be it's 0.2332 and Google tool bar doesn't show it. But if you have 1000s of links with 0.2332 PR, that would give some serious link juice to your money site. And of course the way to do it is by building tier 2 backlinks. How many and which tier 1 backlinks are you going to backlink? Depends on how valuable the tier 1 link is, how much time you have and how much automation you have done. This is where I talked about low quantity-high quality tier 1 backlinks and low quality-high quantity tier 2 backlinks. Backlink booster (Sean Donahoe), Backlink Energizer (Steve Aylor), Link Juicer, Link Juice Maximizer (Pat Jackson and Gary Becks), Mega Link Blaster (Don and Jeremy), Link Thunder (a new WSO I saw within the last 48 hours - haven't used it), XRumer blasts, mass blog commenting (e.g. Scrapebox) etc, come in to play.


    The beauty is that you can automate and/or outsource most of the steps in link building. I have someone that writes and submits articles to EzineArticles. I pay only once the article is approved. Then I manually spin this article or get it rewritten and submit to other high PR article directories. I have software that does this part as well; however, I find that the success rate is highest when I do it manually. For making web 2.0 properties, of course there are various programs. SENUKE, Rank Builder and Magic Submitter are programs that I've used at various time points. I've already mentioned blog networks and article distribution software that automates the article distribution. You can use these as tier 1 and/or tier 2. Then I've also mentioned some systems that can be used specifically for tier 2. For social bookmarking there is the famous Social bookmarking service. Fast tagging and posting to all major social websites - SocialMarker.com which is a free service. SocialADR, BookMarking Demon etc. are automated bookmarking services.

    BigMike's modestly priced software suite at Incansoft | Experience The Difference Today! gives tools to automate almost all of above steps. I have a bunch of them and I will tell you later which ones I actively use.
    For software directory submissions, promosoft from PromoSoft - fast and accurate automatic software promotion and submission solution is great.
    All these are great if you know the proper way to use them. I have my ways and I feel they must be good because I get good results. But I'm sure there must be other ways of using them (possibly better than mine). I don't pretend to know it all (contrary to what my mother says).

    This is it for now guys, hoping to finish up the off page SEO section within the course of the week or preferably even this weekend.

    Hope you will profit from my effort!



    New content added - how I spin articles for extra juice. Check out page 4 of the thread!
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  • it is the best part that i'm waiting for
  • Wow, thanks for the detailed post. I make most of my money from adsense and am now starting on Amazon and clickbank
  • Just finished reading the first page and amazing stuff.

    Just a quick question regarding EMD. Lets say bestcoloncleanser.com (.net .org) are not available would you go for bestcoloncleansers.com (adding an S at the end) OR best-colon-cleanser.com ??
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    • Good question. But I really don't want you to take my word on this. This is why I said "I suggest you look at the examples I have given and make an intelligent decision as to what you feel suits best for your particular situation." The answer I'm giving you below is NOT complete because I haven't done the other aspects of kw research for this phrase OK?

      Let's see if I can give a good answer. There are 2 things here. First you need to see if 'best colon cleanser' or 'best colon cleansers' have a higher search volume (competition analysis etc.). If the latter has a higher search volume, I would go for that even if the competition is little bit tougher.

      Would I go for bestcoloncleansers.com (adding an S at the end) OR best-colon-cleanser.com ?? In my opinion it won't make or break things depending on which one you choose as long as your other on page or off page SEO are on target. Given my current capacity in SEO, I would go with the non-hyphenated version and my sticky post would be bestcoloncleansers.com/best-colon-cleanser if I'm targeting the singular version of the kw.

      Hope that helps. Nobody can (or should) give you a concrete answer without for example testing 10 domains of each kind with similar competition and then creating similar off page SEO strategies. If only one does that kind of testing can he say OK I can clearly say that A is better than B after my tests!

      Hey Miller,

      Thanks for a good question. In Illinois, the search for 'find cell phone numbers' brings the 1st result as find-cellphonenumbers.com. This has over 68 million results and over 150,000 phrase matches. I've seen many other examples.

      I think the reason why you're not seeing many of those is because people use that format of EMDs relatively rarely.

      But you pointed out something very good. What I wanted to say was 'fewer the hyphens - better it is'. I've seen many people say this. Will edit the original post to reflect that.

      Thanks again for a good question.
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  • Thank you for sharing your experience and honest input here!

    Kate
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  • Hey Chucky , I just sent you a PM. I look forward to your reply.

    Thanks,
    Jason
  • Subscribed to this superb thread. I will spend more time here and gain the knowledge

    Thanks
    Rukshan
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    • Hey Chucky... I'm curious which writing service you use or if anyone else out there can recommend one?
  • Hi Chucky,

    Do you have that excel spreadsheet where you have everything that you mark down for each site?

    Thanks
    Bryan
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    • I'm a bit behind on my PMs... getting too many of them will check out!

      I use Odesk. I have like 5 writers I think. I send them an email whenever I have something for them. If you've never posted a job at Odesk before, first look at how other experienced people do it (rates, conditions etc.). That way you don't run in to some of the unforeseen problems.

      What I usually do is, I say I'll give you a test rewrite of about 150 words and I'll pay 50 cents for that whether I like it or not. If I like it, you get hired, if not, you only get the 50 cents

      Yes I have, I looked at them the other day and they look very incomplete. I may brush 'em up sometime soon and post 'em. But it won't happen for a while I'm afraid. There is still a long way to go with the off page SEO part. Sorry it's getting delayed.

      I've got to do stuff that earn me money as well sometimes
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  • I tried getting to #1 for a few keywords, and then dropped to page 3+ after a few months. Oh, and stay away from using trademark names in domain. All that money that you make cannot cover the lawsuits if companies do bring it up lol.
  • Wow, this is very impressive. This a GREAT thread!!! I read for about 30 minutes, bookmarked it and will study it over the next 4 days.

    What I'm finding terribly disturbing is all of the basic SEO mistakes I've made since Oct/Nov. What's nice is going back and editing all of those little (really HUGE) mistakes. Now I'm gonna take what I have recently learned, blend this and go crazy.
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  • Very very comprehensive and useful information, specially for newbies. Keep up the good work. I am impressed that you are sharing all this for free here and not selling it as a wso. Good work.
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  • LOL.

    Thanks for the great guide Chucky. You're putting a ton of effort into this!
    You even had to kick a child out of the room for one of the recordings.. lol.

    Maybe the final step will be you revealing your real name.
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  • grate video tutorials thanks for this thread awesome work thanks again
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  • great guide, thanks!
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  • Just launched my page a little over 24 hrs ago. So far only 1 page indexed and it's a "no follow" page! What gives? How can a no follow page get indexed? rss n XML site map are clean and no follow properly coded.

    Also about how long does it typically take for all pages to get indexed? Should I wait to backlink until they are indexed?
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    • I know I will have to.... one day.... who would want to believe an invisible man with no name-no credibility

      Well you asked it to be 'no followed' which means page rank will not leak to the page; however that doesn't stop it from being indexed. If you don't want it to be indexed (TOS, Privacy Policy etc.) you will have to add a 'no index' tag as well.

      This is a tool I have used in the past to get my pages indexed quickly.

      Profit Instruments: Quick Index Tool

      I don't use it anymore because I'm not in a big rush to get 'em indexed. The above tool should help you. If I remember right, you can do this for internal pages as well (not 100% sure though). The other option is to post a link on a high traffic forum - like the WF/WF blog entry. I'm not referring to profile links, I'm talking about signatures in posts made on high traffic threads
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  • great post! I will try this one!
  • Hi Chucky,

    Well done and congrats for your great achievements!!
    Your contents are awesome and there are many tips that I can pick up from you.
    I will follow your thread closely )
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    • Wow, wow, wow. Chucky, this is great information. I can take this and run with it. Great information for noobs like myself. Thank you for sharing, I greatly appreciate it!
  • Really great advice this will inspire people!
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  • Great guide, thanks!
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    • Truly inspirational. Thanks for taking the time to write this.
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  • how many sites you have to get to the income you are at right now?
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    • Thank you guys. It is comments like yours that encourage me to go on. But for it to be truly worth,


      I think I have like 80 domains and out of them I have websites on about 50 out of which about 10 sites bring 95% of the money. It's the 80/20 rule: 20% of what you do brings in 80% of the $$. For me, it's more like 95/5 rule.

      Most of the 'failures' (or lessons learned) are not because they don't rank, but simply because I picked the wrong market/keywords. I have sites as high as #2 for phrases with > 2000 exact searches/month that earn me like $10 once every 2 months. That's why I stress the importance of selecting the RIGHT MARKET right from the beginning. The right market and the right buying keywords are essential for your efforts to be fruitful.

      On a regular month, I don't earn 5 figures. That's only during Christmas as of now. On a regular month, my main income is also not from Amazon. It's from CJ and CB. The commission you get from selling physical products is way way less compared to informational products on CJ and CB.
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  • Wow It's an huge an amazing post, i like it
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  • Hey Chucky

    How do you reduce the risk with Adsense? Anything special

    Thanks
    Rukshan
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    • I don't do Adsense. In my opinion, if I can bring in 100 visitors for a buying keyword, the best way to monetize those 100 visitors is not Adsense. I might as well sell them something that gives me better money. I do have adsense on most of my sites, but they are not in the 'hotspot' for maximum CTRs. They are there only to track the daily page views. I know... I'm lazy to log in to my Analytics.
      Besides, I don't have duplicate or auto-generated content, so I don't see any reason why I should have a problem with Adsense.

      I'm sorry, can you pls restructure the question using the phrases 'theme kw', 'primary kw' and 'secondary kw'?

      Thanks!

      I'm sorry, they are not informational products as in CB eBooks. What I promote on CJ are more like downloadable software. It's not a physical product, that's why I said informational. Sorry about the misunderstanding!




  • In the first part that I wrote about off page SEO, I covered the first 7 sub headlines listed here. So today, I'm going to address the 8th one. It's one of the more important parts in my opinion. So hopefully you get something out of it.
    1. Anchor text hyperlinks vs hard URLs
    2. Link diversity
    3. IP diversity
    4. Link velocity
    5. No follow vs do follow
    6. Indexing/strengthening your backlinks
    7. Going high throughput - automation
    8. Minimizing your footprint
    9. Mimicking the 'natural' situation
    10. How I do it now
    11. How I did it when I got started
    12. Here's a plan


    People talk about this, but I don't think many people address it enough. I'm one of those extra cautious paranoid people in most things in life. And you're going to see that written all over this section . Am I over doing it? Probably yes! Can overdoing it hurt one? I don't think so! That's my philosophy. I'm pretty sure you can get away without being as paranoid as I am. Where you want to draw the line is entirely up to you.


    • Web 2.0 properties/Article marketing - title, body, resource box, outgoing links
    • Profile links - especially if you build 100 profiles with the same 2-3 links
    Depending on the kind of link building strategies you follow, I'm sure you can relate these 'footprints' to whatever it is that you're doing. The thinking is that if you can see them, probably Google can too! But another school of thought is that it's not easy for Google to keep track of them, just because you can. You only have those 50 spun articles in front of you. But for Google, your 50 spun articles are interspersed among a gazillion other articles and then yours are not the only ones that have similar content. So how does Google really keep track of all these? Theoretically it can, but it will require a lot of memory or capacity or processing power or whatever.



    If I make 10 web 2.0 properties with a thinly spun article, I will consider myself lucky if I'm able to get 3 of them indexed. If I spin them my way, I will get as much as 7-8 of them indexed. That tells me, Google can keep track of insufficiently spun content to a certain extent.



    - It's really not too hard. Let's do an example. I have at least 3 components to a title. They are indicated in 3 different colors below
    .

    Then I would write 2-3 additional versions of them





    OK now let's put them together and spin them.


    This may not look too different from what some of you may be used to. But I want to you to pay attention to this particular bit Did you notice that there is an extra pipe symbol (|) at the end? What that does is, it gives a BLANK space for the middle portion for approximately 25% of the spun versions.

    So that you would have something like this: Now this is very different from This is obviously not a DRAMATIC difference, but I think these little differences matter.

    If you can add 4 components to the title instead of the 3 that I've demonstrated above, that'll make it even more unique in Google's eyes.

    - you can take the same idea from 'title spinning' and go to town with it when it comes to the article body. The options are endless

    Basically, I spin the content as much as possible. Not just at the word, phrase and sentence level. But also at the paragraph level. And the just like I did above, I leave a pipe (|) followed by a blank space for 1 sentence in each paragraph and I would do that for 1 or 2 paragraphs as well. Because of this, my articles have varying numbers of sentences and paragraphs - and thus more uniqueness in the eyes of Google. Let's try to do an example below.


    Can you see what the large would do to the 3rd sentence? In half the number of articles, the 1st paragraph will have 4 sentences while in the other half, it'll have only 3 sentences. And if this article has 5 paragraphs, it will have sentences varying from 15-20 among the spun versions. Now I'm sure that's a new dimension of uniqueness that a lot of people didn't have in their articles.

    OK, here's another dimension of uniqueness.




    Can you see what this spin syntax around the 3rd paragraph does? It will get rid of the 3rd paragraph in certain articles. Now that will change the number of paragraphs as well as number of sentences in the article dramatically! Why do I have the closing syntax at the beginning of the 3rd paragraph rather than at the end of the 2nd paragraph? Because if I do it the other way, whenever the 2nd paragraph disappears, there will be a double space between paragraphs 1 and 3. Spin it both ways and you'll see what I'm talking about.

    Want another dimension of uniqueness? OK here it is - but you will not be able to apply it every day. For web 2.0 properties that approve content without moderation (and that will not get moderated in the future) this will likely work!

    Here what I do is having content on 3 topics in one article.
    The first half will have stuff on topic A and then the second half will be on topics B or C. Here's how I do it.



    I don't think it can get anymore unique than that guys! But as you can see, it will not work everywhere. If topics A, B and C are different like apples and oranges, would they fit under the same title? Would a strictly moderated article directory approve your article? Are you going to make the topics as different as weight loss and kids karaoke machines? Or are you going to make them subtly different like, weight loss, fitness training and muscle building? Do you see where I'm going? It's not impossible!

    Depending on the niches you are in, it may do miracles to your article syndication.

    As of April 7th, I have bought this, but haven't tried it yet; I think Jonathan Teng's IAS software can help you achieve the levels of spinning that I'm talking about http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-articles.html



    I don't think I need to add anymore to this than what I've already mentioned with spinning the article body. If allowed, change the pen name of the author here for additional uniqueness.

    For even more extra uniqueness rather than spinning names like {Adam Beever|John Emerson|Wendy Jackson} do them like {Adam|John|Wendy} {Beever|Emerson|Jackson}.



    Again, this will add an additional layer of uniqueness to your spun content. If your links are in the resource box, it will be something like this.


    What I wrote above is not the most unique resource box I've written. You should add more variations and use some of the tips that I mentioned under the article body.

    The beauty about these resource boxes is that once you write an ultra spinnable resource box, you can use them over and over and over and over. Because the possible combinations are limitless.




    If this is a submission for web 2.0 properties, you are probably not going to use a resource box. In this case, you can put your links in the content the way I have demonstrated earlier (topic A for first half and topics B and C for 2nd half) and it will work beautifully.



    The next big question on your mind should be where do I get this content from? This indeed is the big question, not spinning. If you want premium content, you will either have to write them yourself or outsource them. If you are publishing them on non-moderated properties, you can even use PLR articles and spin them together. They may not make perfect sense to you or your reader, but search engines will give some credit to those because the different combinations make the content unique even though individual sentences are not. Remember, these are not for people to read, I call them 'search engine fodder'. This is probably one of those grey hat things. I don't do this; I use premium ultra spinnable articles from Vita Vee's 'The Leading Articles'. They don't come cheap and may not be the right option for you if you are just starting out.

    But I know people using Free PLR content and feeding Google with spun PLR content. Search Google for something like 'Free PLR' articles and you should get plenty of options. But please be warned that these articles may have already been used over and over all over the internet and you may not get any value at all.

    I hope this lesson on spinning sparked many new ideas in your heads and hopefully you will implement this and get better link juice from your campaigns.

    I've been pretty slow updating the off page SEO section guys, I apologize. I'm going through one of those busy patches.
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  • Dude you get 10% commision??...I seen poeple with WSO's that don't have 10%!!..Get a Course out man..lol
  • Sorry Chucky, for the confusion.

    Correct me if I am wrong, theme kw = primary kw

    So if my theme keywords (primary kw) is internet marketing

    and my secondary kw is = internet marketing tips, tools for internet marketing, and best strategies for internet marketing, etc.

    So do I write my 5 articles focus on primary kw only
    or
    one article for primary kw and 4 other article for each secondary keyword?
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    • I don't mean to butt in on this conversation, but maybe I can help since I was confused on this very part myself.

      I broke it down as:

      Theme Keyword (never changes)- Kids karaoke machines
      Primary Keyword (1ry) (articles target kw)- karaoke machines for kids
      Secondary Keyword (all other keywords)- kid karaoke machine reviews
      LSI Keywords - Use Google Wonder Wheel for these

      For each keyword:

      Title Tag - For each article
      1ry keyword - theme kw
      (example: Karaoke Machines for Kids - All about Kids Karaoke Machines)

      So I PERSONALLY took as the theme keyword never changes. It is the root keyword with the highest volume...

      Article 1 will use the same theme keyword and the same primary keyword.

      Article 2, 3, etc are then focused on the following primary keywords BUT you also include the theme keyword as well, just as I show in the above example. The theme keyword never changes since it is your best keyword therefore he uses it in every article.

      That was my interpretation of it. I had to write it out to understand... hopefully I'm right and this helps.

      Correct me if I'm wrong Chucky...
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  • wow !

    lot of content here. i don't need buy any WSO. just read this whole thread
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  • Hi ddBoom,

    no you're a big help =)
  • Awesome!

    Very inspiring. And one of the best detailed information out there!
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  • Hi Chucky....very inspiring post. I am just wondering, how long do you take from $0 - 6 figure?

    And do you do it entirely on building niche sites and affiliate programs?
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    • Thanks Chucky, that clear the sky for me.

      I am starting a niche site with your instruction, I'm going to see how it goes. After reading your post, now I know what I am doing wrong with my other sites that didn't rank at all.
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    • I built my first website in Feb 2008, first sale in April (from Clickbank), about $2000 in 2008, ~ 20,000 in 2009 and 2010 was the year!

      Yes all are niche sites and affiliate programs. No products of my own. Also not a penny from the IM niche.
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  • That is really detail explaining about your 5 figure way. for backlink, did you search for gov or edu link?

    market samurai did you ever experience this? I have successfully generate lot of keyword and I want to analyze them so I click analyze keyword button. It all went to filter out, I not setting any filter yet. How could I pick any gold nugget keyword to target?

    If you want detail what happen you could read in thread I open. This is exactly happen on me, not sure did happen on anyone else.
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    • very inspiring...
      thank you for sharing here. try to get there soon
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  • Chucky, another great post from you about the spinning articles. I thought I knew "enough" but boy I was wrong after reading it. Thank YOU! Now I know what to do =) I don't know how many thank you I'll be saying on your thread haha.
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    • I'm happy to report that I made my first clickbank sale using chuckys method. I launched my site on Tuesday and got my first sale this morning. I'm far from 6 figures but it's a start. I haven't even started back linking yet! thanks chucky!
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    • I did do .gov and .edu backlinks. I was subscribed to Muz Azar's monthly package where he sent those backlinks. But I wasn't crazy about them, I just built them when I found them.

      Sorry man, not an expert on MS.

      That's the attitude! Good luck!

      The BIGGEST thank you you can give me is to become successful! All the best to you!
  • mmmmmmmm....good thread
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    • Dang it, it just kills me how much money I've spent on marketers while trying to find the detailed information I needed that Chucky, thanks to his great big heart, has given here freely.

      If you are a college student, I'm old enough to be your mama...wish I could bake you a big batch of cookies!
  • Thank you very much for your nice article. This is really interesting and have many element to learn. Nice work.
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  • I couldn't visit the thread in a while. I just went through the content spinning section and that is awesome. I already did some of those, but I did NOT do the paragraph level and sentence level spinning you refer to. It does sound like an extra bit of work.... but I can certainly see why it will give better results from content syndication.

    Thanks again Chucky
    The KID
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  • Awesome dude, keep up the good work!!! You have a great ratio that's nice, but be aware that they can refund the product if they dont like it, so stay calm j/k!

    Congrats and thanks for Chucky!!
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    • Hey Chucky... WarriorForum will not allow me to PM you back since I'm below 50 posts! I thought at 15 I would be but only specific people? Weird! Anyways, PM me an email and I'll get back with you. Thanks!


      Thanks! Yup, you're right but that goes for any affiliate product returns. Luckily, my vendor has a very low refund rate.
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    Hi Chucky,

    This is indeed a great thread with very detailed informative posts! Guys I hope you are all paying attention here, Ive paid alot of money on WSO or courses and chucky is giving it all for free!

    ALSO notice how he creates his post, such a detailed person, and the way he replies to you guys. No wonder his successful, he has the right attitude.

    Im not new to IM, I made some money here and there trough various methods that dont require sites, but only recently (Early Feb) i've started to build sniper sites and ranking them slowly. I wanted to build a sustainable long term income with niche websites

    Anyways Chucky or anyone , I have a little Google dance Dilemma here!
    I recently made a sale for one of my site and it was only in the bottom of page 1 and a few other keywords hovering on page 2 and 3, and thinking that I would love to rank it higher I did an AMR ( article marketing Robot) article blast and the next thing you know my site is no longer in page 1,2 or 3 for my main keywords! ( it has been like that for 2 weeks now!) I know its the Google dance but for how long I have no Idea..

    Do you have a strategy to get DANCE faster so i can stabilize my rankings?
    I'm Terribly upset because I see potential in this site!, and recently I had another 2 sites getting a couple of sales (again they are hovering around page 1- 3) Most of my traffic come from LTKW and I'm a little afraid to do any SERIOUS backlinking , look at what happened to my other site.

    So what do you reckon is good for new sites like mine? how many links? What type of links?

    Hope to hear from you soon!

    -Brandon
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  • Hey Chucky,

    My sites are doing the Google Dance on the SERP. Any input on that? =)

    I have not build any backlinks yet, because I am planning to wait for a few weeks. Do you think building backlinks will help?
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      Hi Chucky same thing as MaineCoon

      Any input on this, Im very new to Website SEO-ing

      Thanks once again!

      -Brandon
    • Hey,

      I totally understand where you're coming from. We've all been there and none of us learned everything in one day.

      I think you should break them down to components like
      • kw research
      • on page seo
      • off page seo
      Then spend a few days on each topic. Climbing Mount Everest begins with the first step you take!

      If you ask me what the most vital parts you should do I would say something like this.
      • Identify a laser targeted killer buying phrase - for example instead of targeting something like 'natural cures for acne' target something like 'acne free in 3 days review'. People who search for acne solutions using various generic phrases like 'how to cure acne', 'natural acne cures' etc. will go to affiliate websites and they will be shown this product 'acne free in 3 days'. Then some people will want to find out if this is a scam or a genuine product. They will type on to the Google search bar various search phrases like 'acne free in 3 days review', 'review of acne free in 3 days' etc. You can find out these buy going to Google Adwords kw tool. This particular product may be too competitive. You can go to ClickBank marketplace and search for products with decent gravity and then select a GOOD product (not some get rich quick scam). Then do the competition analysis etc. as I said.
      • Choose a kw with very low competition. Unfortunately these will also have low search volume. But that's OK. You want to learn the ropes and build some confidence. If your market analysis was correct, not only will you get top rankings but it will also be a winner $$ wise.
      • If you get this part right, you can do your on page and off page SEO slowly with time
      • If you get the kw research part wrong, you can spend loads of time/money on SEO and still get no rankings
      • Then you have to build your site. Make the first page. There will be deficiencies. Take them one at a time. Conquer them one by one. The title, H tags, meta tags, interlinking - one at a time.
      • Also start building links simultaneously - slowly but steadily and consistently. Write an article a day and submit to article directories or web 2.0 sites. Then book mark these properties.
      • For a low competition phrase - this should already give you good results
      Hope that helps, wish I could do more!

      This has happened to me plenty of times and I agree it is scary. For me some sites have been dancing for over a month. Some just came by themselves, for others I had to do stuff. For the latter group, I like to believe that the stuff that I deliberately did brought it back, but I really don't know if they just randomly returned or not.

      If the sites are brand new, I wouldn't worry too much; but since they are not really brand new from what I understand from your post, I can't give you a concrete answer.

      Anyways, here's something that happened to a site of mine close to thanksgiving of 2009.

      This site is what showed me the potential of black Friday back in 2008. I got ~1000 visitors on Black Friday to this site and made me like $35 in Adsense. And it was sitting at #8 for the theme kw. Then in 2009, I brought it up to like #4 and it wouldn't climb beyond that. Anyway, it sat there steadily from let's say March 2009 to October 2009. I didn't add any content, I didn't build too many links (may not have built any fresh links at all during the latter part of this period) and the site suddenly disappears. Not a drop, just disappears.

      At this time, I was a member of StomperNet and I asked people around there what I should do. They told me that I should give it FRESH content and FRESH backlinks. I remember submitting 5 Ezine Articles (not all at once - may have spread them out through like 2 weeks) and also another 5 posts of content to the site. And even before I finished adding these 10 pieces of content, the site came back to where it was.

      Now was this an example of the stereotypical Google dance? I don't know. People usually associate the dance to new sites, but my older sites have also danced.

      I have seen many warriors also say just keep building links and don't worry about the dance. I think the only thing you can do is add new content and 'higher quality' backlinks. Also, these backlinks should be not only at the homepage but internal pages as well.

      I'm afraid this is all the advice I can give with the little experience I've had.

      Here is another example that may give you some hope. I had another site (still have) that would dance (disappear) even with 1 single new link I build. It was absolutely frustrating. The moment I stop building links, it comes back up but the moment I start it disappears. This site had about 40 posts of content and I had just given up on it. I had no idea what was happening with this one.

      However, with every dance (I would say about 30-40 dances over 3 years) it was increasing in rankings for the theme kw (an EMD). Then all of a sudden I noticed that it was ranking for multiple kw like an authority site. Many #1, #2 and other rankings on pages 1, 2, and 3. A lot of traffic through LTKW. And now, I can build 1000 links in one day and it doesn't dance a single bit. It ranks like #14 for a super competitive phrase and it drops as far as #21 sometimes. But I won't call this the typical dance where the site disappears.

      So there it is, after all that dancing Google made it an authority site. So dancing may be a good thing.

      Here is something that may scare you a bit. After the Farmer update, I see many posts on WF where people say their sites have disappeared. So these days, when a site disappears just like that I don't know if it a sign of dancing or if it is a sign of being affected by the Panda update.

      Whenever I use AMR, I schedule it to do like 100 submission/24 hours. And these are relatively mature sites and they can withstand that.

      In conclusion, add QUALITY fresh content + build white hat backlinks slowly and steadily + pray

      If anybody else has some other tips, I would also love to learn their suggestions.

      Good luck!

      Since I know for sure that your sites are brand new, I wouldn't worry at all. Just give them one or two new 500 word posts 1 week or even 10 days apart and they will come back stronger than they were before. Just make sure the content is original, unique, have one or two outgoing links to authority sites (don't worry about no following them yet) in your niche and have internal links to posts already posted.

      Good luck! Also read the answer I gave Brandon although your situation is different from his
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    Hi Chucky, thank you so much once again for your replies, very very valuable indeed.

    Chucky I believe my sites are considered "brand new" all 5 domains I just got them around February this year. lol. Sry If i didnt made it clear enough so what you said to mainecoon may apply to me as well .

    I have been seeing lotsa threads lately since the recent Google update and im sure its not because of that.

    some sites even got De-listed, especially those article directory type sites, but my sites are still indexed, when i do a Google search site:mysite.com its there . SO no worries

    I'll try to add more content and push some high authority backlink to see if it works.

    Also chucky, I would say your a successful affiliate now, are you planning to get into the product creation field? ( not necessarily Make money online niche).I truly believe every affiliate marketer will earn their biggest earnings yet trough their own products.

    NOTE TO EVERYONE: If you find chucky's post valuable please hit the thanks button in his post! IF he does ever release a WSO the number of thanks shows credibility and will help him

    -Brandon
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    • I have read pretty much the whole thread and really appreciate
      all the effort gone into sharing this info.

      I'd like to ask a couple of questions and I hope
      they havn't been covered yet.

      1) All other things being equal, how much difference is the value that
      Google gives to .com vs .net vs .org ? ( and .info ) ?

      2) I see that you advocate using plurals in the domain name
      eg "kidskaraukemachinesreviews" so that we pick up a search of both the singular and the plural.

      If that logic is true, and our keyphrase is "kids karauke machines"

      why not go for : kidskaraukemachin.com ? ( no last "e" )

      You see that should catch both singular and plural and it would be available

      Has anyone tried this ?
      Would it work ?
      How do you think G would rank it ?


      .
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  • hey any one, i copied my amazon link into my blog but each time i click it it says 404 error does any one know how to go about doing it properly
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    • Product creation is indeed the next step, but not sure how/when that will happen. Once I was reading (or listening to) Terry Kyle and he said that his affiliate commissions have never exceeded 10% of his total income. I was like OMG - if my income distribution had the same ratio, I'd be making 7 figures

      About different TLDs, sorry I can't tell you anything conclusive. I have #1s from all 3 TLDs. To give you a statistically correct answer, one would need to test multiple domains with same competition, same on page and off page optimization etc. etc. I would not believe anybody giving an answer without doing such an experiment.

      why not go for : kidskaraukemachin.com ? ( no last "e" )

      machine is the correct spelling. I don't see why machin would rank for either machine or machines. Probably would rank for "kids karaoke machin": that's if you're trying to catch 'mis-spelt traffic'.

      just my opinion, have no experience with it

      Agreed!

      I haven't watched this video, but this one or other related videos may show you exactly how to do it YouTube - Creating Amazon Affiliate Links
      Good luck!
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  • Awesome!! Thanks for taking the time to share this post. It's amazing to see when someone who has cracked into the online business world with success and still take the time to step back a bit to help others. I enjoy your posts, thank you so much....
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  • In the first two parts that I wrote about off page SEO, I covered the first 8 sub headlines listed here. Today, I'm going to address the 9th one.
    1. Anchor text hyperlinks vs hard URLs
    2. Link diversity
    3. IP diversity
    4. Link velocity
    5. No follow vs do follow
    6. Indexing/strengthening your backlinks
    7. Going high throughput - automation
    8. Minimizing your footprint
    9. How I do it now
    10. How I did it when I got started
    11. Here's a plan



    Some people may say that what I'm saying here is pure speculation. If I knew the exact Google ranking algorithm, I could have disagreed with them

    More than anything else, it's 'food for thought'; you will agree that at least some of it makes sense and if you are convinced you can try to mimic what I'm calling 'Natural SEO'. You will also realize that whether you agree with me or not, you are already doing it!

    What I'm trying to look at here is the link building patterns that may take place in a world where there would be no internet marketers. I'll try to establish my point using two different examples.



    Let's take the example of a news breaking event like the Tsunami that took place in Japan. Who would talk about it first? Obviously the news stations come first. Then people start talking about it on social networks. People would write on their Face Book walls, will Tweet about it, DIGG them, will discuss it on news sites with links to similar stories, bookmark related stories, recommend them to their friends etc. etc. Then someone will make a video of the devastation and upload it to YouTube. Then someone else will see it and make a video response may be giving a follow up of that. Someone will make a whole YouTube channel covering different areas of the devastation. Someone else will upload another video to MetaCafe so on and on.

    Here is an example of a wordpress.com blog where a person posted some pics and videos on the Tsunami Earthquake/Tsunami Hits Japan - Tsunami Warnings Across The Pacific « Nice Deb If you scroll down you will also see another guy making a comment and giving the link to another site that has similar information. I don't believe either one of them are internet marketers; they're just sharing information. Here is a FB page (Gosh I don't even know if this is a Fan Page or someone's wall - my FB knowledge is zero) on the same topic and you'll see people recommending other blogs, videos news items etc. etc.

    Do you think there's going to be press releases coming out related to the Tsunami? Of course! Check this out Fees Waived for Press Releases About Japan Quake, Tsunami Aid and Rescue Efforts | Beyond PR

    I found all of above sites by doing a simple Google search which means Google indexed them and ranked them.

    Do you see how concepts that I covered earlier like 'link diversity' and 'link velocity' are setting in in a natural scenario?



    Now I'm not saying that Google treats all sites like a news item. If you think of something like a product launch (e.g. iPad 2) also, you will see there are major similarities between that and what you and I do. They will have the keyword "iPad 2" in their URL, in their title, in the first sentence, in the content, as hyperlinks etc. Then there will be press releases announcing the iPad 2, about its technology, the release date, new versions, the new dual core A5 processer, partnerships, the 3G provider for iPad 2 etc. etc. Then the 'tech blogs' will start blogging about them.

    Someone will make a video of it as soon as he unwraps it, people will flock to watch it and leave comments on them. Others will ask questions about certain technical features on various different forums. Another one will say, OK I have done a complete video review of the iPad on my blog - here is the link. Others will write about that video on the FB wall. Others will tweet about it. Others will DIGG that FB Fan Page. But remember, unlike you and I most of these people will be non-IMers.

    This is the 'NATURAL' situation that I was talking about.

    Do you see where I'm going? Do you think you and I can replicate this situation with our niches?

    Do you think Google can neglect you if you mimic some natural SEO?

    Ask yourself! And avoid them. Here are some of my thoughts:
    • Doing a one time scrapebox blast of 10000 backlinks
    • Doing a one time article blast using AMR to 3000 article directories
    And then doing nothing for the next month
    • Linking to your money site with 100 different blogs with the same username
    I'm sure you can add another dozen things to this list
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    Hi Chucky,
    great thread, I'm still reading and digesting all this beautiful info.
    One quick question?
    How do you forward emails from your name@domainname.com email to your regular email?
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    • Great thread ! Thanks a lot for the information.
      I hope you keep posting as it's very important for the newbies like me
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    • Hey thanks!

      I found this video on YouTube, this may not be the best video out there. But there's bound to be other videos if you keep searching!
      YouTube - cPanel - How to setup email forwarding
      Good luck!
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    Wow !!! huge tips. really useful post.
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  • Hi Chucky,

    Many thanks for your posts! I am reading your tips and incorporating them into a couple of niche sites I already run (I plan to follow the exact system after I have finished the second site).

    I was wondering you recommend a plugin which masks outgoing links, but you also recommend we link out a couple of times each page to authority pages. Do you still mask these authority links?

    Also I am slightly confused over the rewriting articles part, what do you do with the 20 rewrites and which keywords do you use for these?

    Also do you interlink the 5 sites?

    Many thanks Chucky,

    Sam
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    • Hi Sam, I'm using this wordpress plugin to automatically clock my links. It seems to be working great on my site.

      Link Cloaking Plugin for WordPress | W-Shadow.com

      I'm using the free version for now.
    • Hey, thanks!

      If WP no external links is activated, you don't have to deliberately mask the outgoing links. It will automatically mask them and make them no follow and/or open in new a tab according to the options you pick. If you don't mask them, I recommend you manually add the rel="nofollow" tag to preserve PR.

      If I said link out twice each post, I'm sorry I didn't mean that. I will check and correct that. Linking out twice for the whole site may be sufficient. Either you can do it in text (as an editorial link), in the footer (this is what I've been doing lately) or a separate 'External Links/Recommended reading/Related pages' page.

      I don't know if there is a harm or extra benefit in linking out from each post. If you do do that, make sure you make the anchor text indistinguishable from rest of the text (not blue and underlined and hyperlinked) because if you do that you will run the risk of losing traffic. I don't think you would want that. I can't remember the code from the top of my head, if you do a search on Google for something like 'no style for hyperlink' or whatever, you should find the HTML code to help you with that. If you can't find it, let me know, I can dig it out from a site of mine.

      The 20 rewrites are for 4 sites. 4 of them will be based on the 4 theme kw for each site and the other 16 would be secondary kw for LSI purposes.

      No I don't interlink them. I think interlinking them (randomly) would give the network extra strength but then you would have to have them on separate servers and multiple IP addresses and bla bla bla that I don't know of. If you are interested in such things, I recommend Terry Kyle's Backlinks Hydra. I try not to preach things that I don't practice

      Good luck!
      Chucky
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  • Hey Chucky, when you get a chance, check your email. Thanks!
  • Hey Chucky, check ur email, i replied... Man, I'll be glad when I have 50 posts so I can PM.
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    one hell of a story dude! those facts and figures really pumped me up to do something in my life as well

    I'll definitely try to follow your footsteps..
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    Thanks for the quick response chucky.
    Still soaking up the info will get to stepping soon.
    I love this forum.
    Cheers!
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  • thank you for sharing this! most people would have sold this. im going to read over it now
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    • Thanks for this Chucky, you've spent a lot of time on this, and it's much appreciated and it's going to help me loads
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  • Hey Chucky...I don't think your page 3 link is working? I am trying to follow on with the post but it ends on 2nd April.

    Really enjoying it. Thanks


    EDIT - Not to worry, found it on page 3 of this thread. Thanks
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    • WOW! Your guts is commendable and that's a sure sign of your positive attitude. Congrats! I too was thinking about getting the lifetime license but chickened out in the end



      Anyways, since I haven't kept my word on the specific way I do my off page SEO, and I can't see me doing it for a while, I thought I'll make a short post at least about how I use SENUKE on new sites.

      I use something like what's shown on this diagram Link Magnet - Download Business

      EDIT: above is not an affiliate link, it's the only image I could find of what I do

      Just once I have used 4 link wheels instead of the 2 as shown by the above diagram. The experts say that the more of these you can make the better.

      Another TIP!

      I have found it increasingly difficult to get these web 2.0 properties indexed inspite of putting original unique content when they have just one page of content and outgoing links to my sites. So what I do now is populate these properties with 2-3 articles without links at first and then upload a 4th article with the outgoing links I want. Before I upload my 4th article, I try to do everything I know to get them indexed (pinging, scrapebox spam, RSS submissions, bookmarking etc. etc.).

      To me, this has been very safe. I usually use a GoArticles article for that intermediate web 2.0 property. The idea is to use a property that has minimal outgoing links so that the maximal amount of juice goes to your site instead of GoArticles home page etc.

      There might be other better properties (with even less outgoing links). On this property, I would put the link to my site, as high up as possible and also use a non-salesy unique article. Once I had GoArticles take down one of my such articles and all the link juice with it . It wouldn't have happened had my article been a good one!

      Another point is to try and use different articles for different link wheels of the same magnet to minimize the foot print.

      I know that's a lot of articles. I use Ultra Spinnable Articles (expensive). For those who don't want to ditch the money, may be you can try to translate articles from English --> French/German etc. --> back to English and then use those for the link wheels. I guess if you sit down for half and hour and do it, you'll get like 20 unique articles that should be sufficient for one such link wheel complex.

      That's all that comes to my mind right now, will update if I remember anything else.

      EDIT Apr 24th

      Once the sites are more mature, I do something like what's shown on the two images from this thread (WSO I used to run long time ago) http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ml#post1623120

      Nowadays I do more of the OPTION 1 than OPTION 2. If I do option 2, it will be more like a link magnet or a incomplete link wheel or randomly connected 'wheel'. Is it effective? Must be because not just people like me, but people of the calibre of Leslie Rhodie, Dan Thies and James Schramko talk about doing such networks (not necessarily the complete wheel).

      Actually I didn't know how to link to individual posts, I think I found out now and will do that one of these days!

      Glad you're enjoying them!
      Good luck!
      Chucky
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  • Thanks again Chucky for the Senuking part. I gave up on this a while ago simply because I couldn't get them indexed. But your strategy just may work. I will admit that it sounds like a bit of work, but no pain no gain right :-)

    Do you always start with Senuking? Is that the first thing you do for a new site?

    Thanks a lot for taking time man!
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    • 1st Site:
      Yesterday was climbed from 37th to 12th on Google, then today it's at 11th.

      2nd Site:
      Stayed at 48th.

      The different is, I didn't use SENuke for my 2nd site yet, I don't know if that's the reason. I can't wait to be at the top 3.

      Chucky, thanks for the SEnuke advice =)
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    • Hey,

      Actually no, I don't think I've ever started my link building with SENUKE. My first step is usually bookmarking. Now I use social ADR but before that I used to use Social Bookmarking Service | Social Bookmarking Links. Social ADR is completely hands off, that's why I prefer it to the latter.

      Another thing that I do in the initial stages is press releases. Once I do these and start ranking that's when I would do SENUKing!

      I have been really tied up with time, I'm not sure when I will be able to do the 'this is how I do it' part.

      I have also seen people say they like their first link to be from a .edu site. I guess the reason behind that is because they want the first impressions on Google to be good. I won't get in to the whole story about 'are .edu links actually X times more valuable than .com links', but what I will say is that it's definitely better to get a link from a .edu site than one from a porn or gambling site as the very first link

      So to summarize, it will be bookmarking (e.g. 300 to the sticky post and 100 to the home page - spread over about 2-3 weeks); press releases (ideally 2 - 3 rounds like 1 - 2 weeks apart; but I usually only manage 1 round of PR submission - still works) followed by SENUKE, mass article distribution and backlinking your backlinks.

      Hope that makes sense.
      Chucky
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  • Thank you Chucky! I too have heard many good things about Ken Fry's SB 101, may be I'll get a better deal with his WSO. Keep up the good stuff
    Kido
  • senukex better than senuke
  • wow most i ever made was $94 in one day.. guess i suck
  • Chucky,

    I sent you a PM, but if anyone can help, I would be much appreciated. I've implemented this strategy and it's working for me as well. However, I am having problems configuring the theme. Can't seem to find any tutorials either, however I believe the theme is possibly custom for the review site listed in this thread. Any help would be much appreciated, please PM me if you can help. Thanks.
  • Hi Chucky,

    I was wondering which WSO you recommend for backlinking?

    Thanks
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    Very nice and inspirring thread. Funny thing is that I own one of the top tld's EMD of your example keyword and my first reaction was...ahh not that one
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    • Thanks for sharing this. Awesome
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    • I doubt it can do things SENUKE X cannot! SENUKE X can not only interlink stuff in all sizes, shapes and forms, but you can also 'CHAIN' different modules together so that it will submit let's say for example 10 articles/day, bookmark those 10, submit their RSS feeds, ping them and even clear the cache so that it can do a 2nd round of the same to another site in 10 minutes. You can set the project to be completed in 1 day or 5 days as you prefer.

      Never seen anything like it (then again, I haven't seen 'em all )
      Sorry, I can't recommend a particular service. Pls take a look at the link diversity section that I've written and choose a service that covers as many of them as possible. And you also need to do it consistently, a one off blast almost always doesn't do the job!

      That is too funny! Hopefully I didn't criticize it saying all the on page and off page SEO is screwed up Well it couldn't be because I only mentioned the ones that were ranking in the top. Keep up the good work
  • This thread has single handedly stripped me bare of any more excuses I would have to delay things and start taking action. Everything has become clear now, I know what I need to do to succeed. Thank you Chucky, and all others for sharing your knowledge with the rest of us, this thread is a gold mine for any and every beginner, and even seasoned marketers! You all have my most sincere gratitude!

    *heads off to get started WORKING instead of keeping on reading and looking for another "Get Rich Quick" solution that doesn't exist*

    Alex
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  • hey there, great, great thread by the way, thank you so much for putting this up.

    but you said 7 videos, I've seen only 2.
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  • lots of value here thanks a lot!
    waiting to see your other posts!
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    • hey Chucky, I can't PM yet. So I'm going to make 50 posts and get back to you lol.
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  • Warriors , we owe a huge Thank You to Chucky.. The information he has provided is completely amazing. Honestly, with the details, videos, etc - This would easily be a product worth hundreds of dollars. It could actually be one of those products that come with the optional payment plan.. :-) Friends, it does not get any better than this...
    I feel very blessed to be a part of this forum. We have some amazing people to learn from and Chucky is one of many that go above and beyond to help each and everyone of us.

    Jason
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    • Just wanted to ask 1 question please, are you doing categories to your posts? or just leave it as it is uncateigories?
      what are your thoughts regarding categories in general?
      i'm working on adsense sites now, i might add some sites for clickbanck and affiliates in general - really thanks a lot!
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  • Hi Chucky,

    I see 2 of my competitors did not noindex their
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    • OK! That confirms what I have heard before. I just have heard people with both points of view. Probably isn't something that will make or break you whichever the way you do it!
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  • Thanks alot. that looks good. I am on my way now!
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  • Congrats, man ! Really impressive, you definitely did a great job. I'll give you a thumb up
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  • Hi MaineCoon and ddBoom great to hear about your success! I'm trying to work also on my sites at the moment and rank them on the serp...
    You guys doing sites based clickbank right? i would love to see what kind of theme and structure of the site are you using? kind of snipper sites when you review the product as a person?
    thanks a lot for this thread helped me a lot!
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    • Don't put all your eggs in one basket. I will not only do clickbank products, amazon, CJ, CPA, etc.

      I just download free themes, when I see money coming in I will buy thesis theme.
    • Like MaineCoon said, you diversify. That's my plan as well. Far as themes, what I did was: I searched for some products, found some landing page designs I liked, then looked at their CSS file to figure out which theme they used. Most of the time affiliates use free themes.
  • This whole thread ought to be a WSO and it should be called WSO's Finest. I have copied and pasted all the info I need to read over and over and it is over 40 pages. Most WSO's are not that long or even contain so much great info. Everyone ... keep up the good work sharing your experience.

    I just had a #10 site completely drop off the face of the earth. Am trying a few things to make it come back. When it does I will share my experience.

    Ray
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    • Hey congratulations! Awesome news.

      Yes, now is the time to start tracking and optimizing for conversions. I don't know enough to advice you on this. But apparently Google Analytics is all you need (at this stage) for tracking which search terms brings in sales etc.

      The search volume sounds very healthy. Remember, position #1 gets 42% of them and #3 gets something like 10%. However, you can increase that number by playing around with your title tag. Instead of focusing on optimizing it for the SEs, try to talk to people (but make sure you still maintain the on page SEO factors). Have CAPITAL letters, a call to action etc. etc. to entice more people to click on your website compared to #1 and #2. Once they are inside, engage them and improve bounce rate etc. that I addressed earlier. Turn on comments, ask them to comment, moderate them and start a conversation. You can even start the conversation by stating something controversial as the 1st comment.

      Of course you need to make sales also. If your kw is not a product name kw, see if you're promoting the best product.

      Do a detailed and thorough review. Use "Click here" buttons/images than "Click Here" text. That should get the ball rolling.

      Congrats again!

      Wow, thank you Ray! All the best reviving your site. I got an email today from Dan Thies about the Panda update. A webinar on Monday. This is the link, Webinar Registration hopefully you'll be able to pick something up (not an affiliate link - obviously).

      I usually recommend anything Dan Thies, Leslie Rhodie duo puts out. Their products are super expensive, but they usually give enough free information with plenty of Golden nuggets.

      So many threads everywhere fro people saying they lost their sites - scary
  • Great thread with great information, I find these kind of posts the best on the WF just your story and how you got there no bs. It's really helpful for warriors of all levels to read fellow warriors journeys Keep up the good work
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  • Chucky,

    I have been studying this post methodically over the last three days. I think I am finally absorbing all of it. I am also a young guy, finishing up school and to hear your story is really inspiring. I have the mindset of success and I can't imagine anything stopping me.

    Luckily one of my sites starting making money after a month of affiliate marketing. It has since been deindexed by Google but those first couple of sales were enough to keep me going. There is such a difference between no sale and one sale in this game.

    Anyway, thank you so much for all of this advice and for your input. I really do appreciate it. Excited to hear more from you!

    Thanks!
    Steve
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  • Excellent thread Chucky!

    This guide is very helpful and should be read by anyone who is getting into SEO.

    Great Job.
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  • Thanks for sharing all this info and great post!
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    • Once again, i must say i am blessed to be part of this forum, and one of the reason is the people like Chucky. giving these golden nuggets out is amazing and that shows the kind of Character in the OP, the hands of the giver is always on top, as you help people to acieve there dreams, there will be Nice people up there that will be more than willing to be a blessing to u to.

      You are a blessing to alot of people here. I wish u all the best. Thanks once again.

      Moruf
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  • This is a fabulous thread with a wealth of information for any newbie. Of course it takes hard work and dedication but you are a shining example that if you do this the rewards are immense.

    Perhaps you should collate all of the information you have put on here into a PDF and offer it for free. Brilliant stuff

    Paul.
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    • Hey, thanks! You just gave me an idea. Not exactly what you said... but something similar. Will implement that within ..... the next 2 months may be
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  • Just started to build niche websites on the side while I'm not at my other business just to see how I'd do, and I always get confused with the website structure.

    Home page should target the primary keyword. Ok I got that.
    But then do we create separate pages or posts targeting secondary keywords?

    Also, when you build your links are you using your primary keyword as your anchor text pointing to the main page only? Or are you building deep links to all pages?

    Thanks!
  • Also, did I read correctly that instead of trying to target the site for multiple keywords we should buy exact-match domains for the other keywords? Idk as you can tell I get confused haha

    Thanks
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    • Congrats! great news, sounds like it's time for that 2nd/3rd site to come out.

      Been there and felt that sense of disappointment. That's why I said kw research is so important. I used to make websites on anything I could sell without thinking how much I would make from each item. Now I try to pick products that are >$200 so that I make at least $15/sale. But not always, remember, my goal is to send as many gift shoppers as possible to Amazon during Christmas - for the shopping cart effect.

      I too don't make a lot on Amazon 10 months of the year. Now that you've mastered the art of SEO, time to master the art of kw research. I too got it in that sequence unfortunately. But there's time, better late than never right?

      The MOST PROPER way to do it is to set up a PPC campaign and bring some traffic to targeted phrases. Then you know if the kw convert or not before you put in the effort for SEO. I've never done it (because I know very little about PPC) but I can totally understand why it is the best way. However, there are other methods too to figure out the commercial intent/earnings per sale as I've mentioned earlier. Good luck!

      I create 'posts' for each 2ry kw, but I don't know if creating pages would make a difference.

      The bulk of my links are to the sticky post using the theme kw as the anchor text, another good fraction to the main domain with theme kw as anchor text. Then I make like 10-15% of links to inner pages some of which will have theme kw anchor text while others will have secondary kw anchor text.

      Making links to the inner pages is something I started doing recently. Have been successful with links to sticky post and home page only for a long time. Rarely I would also build a link or two to the sticky post with one of the 2ry kw or using a phrase containing the theme kw. For example, if my theme kw is 'kids karaoke machines', I would build links with anchor text like recommended kids karaoke machines, kids karaoke machines for boys etc. (these variations of the theme kw are NOT 2ry kw - I've just added a prefix/suffix to the theme kw). If I use a 2ry kw as anchor text, I would point it to that particular post and not the homepage or sticky post.

      If I tell you I do 80% of this 10% of that and another 10% of this, I'd be lying. I don't keep track of those. But what I can tell you is that the majority of links (probably over 80-90% have the theme kw as the anchor text).

      My SEO knowledge is NOT strong enough to achieve #1 rankings for theme kw + 2ry kw in one site. I usually get #1 for the theme kw and may be the singular/plural variation of it.

      However, if all your 5 kw (theme + 2ry) are very good kw with high search volume, and good commercial intent, why not grab 5 domain names and go after all of them? Some of them will not rank, but if you cover the points I mentioned, the chances are that you will get at least 3 of them on the first page.

      If you can rank 1 site for at least 3 kw on the first page, that's probably the better option (than building 5 sites)
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  • I'll follow this thread and see what will happen, besides, may be I'll try the strategies you are sharing, cheers!
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  • Hi Chucky,

    This is really a great thread. You are sharing so much info here.

    Do you mind if I ask the sort of traffic you need to achieve these sort of earnings.

    I can often get good levels of traffic to sites I work on, but sometimes wonder if other internet marketers are able to monetize thier traffic to a much greater degree.

    I saw you mention above that a good percentage of your typical months earnings are from two sites. Do you mind if I ask the sort of traffic these sites get to be earning at that level.

    Thanks again for all the great info here.
  • Hey Chucky,

    Thanks again for this fantastic thread!

    Got a few questions regarding keyword research and competition analysis that hopefullly you can help shed some light on.

    1) What is your typicaly first stage when you're doing keyword research? Do you usually start with a keyword research tool for random seed keywords or would you start by checking out products on sites such as Amazon and Clickbank?

    2) Recently when I'm doing competition analysis I've been running into a situation quite often. The sites on the first page are not optimized for a keyword in terms of title, H1/H2/H3 tags, url, or description. Oftenly, many of them aren't optimized for any of the things I just mentioned. The problem is they all have rather high PR such ranging from 4 to 6. Also, these results are typically inner pages that have very few or no backlinks whatsoever. So my question is would you think my chances are good if I try to compete in this situation?
  • Any success with subdomains? For example doghouses.mysite.com?

    I have a site listed in Google this way. Google says they treat it as a separate domain. Plus I can get exact match keywords in my domain title and not have to purchase a domain for every site.

    Anyone have success with this?
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    • It will work but much smaller success rate and slower ranking and possible slower indexing as well.

      Wouldn't you have much more success rate getting a subdomain by building a Web 2.0 sites? from sites like hubpages, blogspots that have higher PR and they are authority sites. Isn't it better than subdomains?

      Unless you have a high PR and aged domain sites for dog houses.

      Plus domain names are cheap, only cost less than $10 for a year. That's your investment to spent on each site =) The return could be much greater. Perhaps 1000x more? Isn't it worth it?
  • Thanks so much for this post Chucky. I started to scan it then went back and read the entire thing slowly. Your process is excellent and I'm looking forward to putting up some sites using it.
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  • yeah this is cool keep it up!! a lot of work went into making this post!
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  • It was great reading this thread, you did an amazing job and I am curious to know how you did all that..... Keep up the job men....
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  • Wow, that is a detailed break down. Could easily turn into a WSO. I like how you haven't seemed to miss a detail, even the technical stuff. Thanks for documenting!

    Cheers!
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  • Actually Squidoo, Hubpages and Blogger are cracking down on affiliate sites. Just go read some of their lastest TOS updates.
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    • On the 4 figure days (during black friday/cyber monday weekend), I think I got about 20,000 visitors in total to my amazon sites. If I remember right, those 20,000 visitors gave me approx $16,000 in sales. That's 80 cents per visitor. I don't get that kind of earnings per visitor on other Amazon sites or even on these same Amazon sites on a regular day.

      I have several Amazon sites that get over 100 visitors per day. But they make me like $5 - 15 per 100 visitors (if the quick math done in my head is correct).

      My best earning sites are monetized with CJ and CB. One of them makes $150/day on average with about 250 views (haven't checked if these were unique visitors or not; this site has about 40 pages of content) a day and the other makes about $50/day with about 80 visits.

      Then I also have several sites that consistently get about 30-50 visitors/day and makes me nothing on Amazon. I guess these are not buyer kw. Very disappointing.

      You say "if other internet marketers are able to monetize thier traffic to a much greater degree"; but I think you mean "CONVERT" the traffic to sales right? That's a whole new topic that I'm still not good at (I think )

      Hope that answers your question.

      No I haven't, but I've seen people good with PPC doing it. That's why PPC is so powerful, you literally need one day to prepare for a product launch or any other event. SEO is not quite that, at least within my capacity

      However, I have targeted seasonal products. Spring, summer vs winter ...

      Here's something I learned this year. I targeted a Spring product and was ranking #1-2 over winter. But obviously no sales. Once the sales started coming in in March, I went down to #7 all of a sudden. Suddenly, authority sites and Amazon itself ranked above me. I didn't add any new content or links, but I guess the others did one or both. I have managed to bring it up to #4 by adding new content and backlinks. So the lesson is don't be complacent just because you're at the top in the off season!

      Some people may not want to target these terms because they don't make sales throughout the year and we can take advantage of that!

      Absolutely! helps the commission rate go up from 6% to 8%

      Yup I think it should be an easy target phrase.

      I see many potential 2ry kw on the wonderwheel tg charcoal grills, tg gas grills, best tg grills, tg bbq grills etc. etc. If they don't have healthy search volumes, probably not worth going for a batch of websites. Who knows, may be if the competition level is right, you'd be able to get 'em all with a single website. Good luck!

      I've always had a particular product (e.g. Nintendo Wii Console) or a product category (e.g. Console video games) in mind before I started kw research. If there is a hot selling product, I would go for a sub-niche of that product/category that I am comfortable with.

      Generally, if the sites are not optimized for the title tag, description tag, url, other on page optimization features with few backlinks that is an easy target regardless or PR. I believe, I went over such an example in my kw research videos. This is the general rule and may have exceptions and cannot say anything definitive without looking at the exact phrase. Hope that helps.

      I think a lot of us have tried to do that to save money on domain names and a lot of us failed because we were not ready to build authority sites in the calibre of Wikipedia or About.com. If you are ready to build such sites go for it, otherwise, I would STRONGLY advise against it

      WOW congrats, I've never done that

      I wouldn't do that. It's better to own the race course than the race horse

      These sites can change their TOS and Google can change their love-hate to these sites any time as we saw with Panda
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  • Hey Chucky,

    Thanks for the reply!

    Got another few quick questions if you don't mind:

    1) Do you use ReviewAzon or any other similar plugin or do you mostly just build the site from scratch?

    2) What tools or services would be a good yet more economical substitute for SeNuke (I understand that's your favorite)

    3) Do you still find link pyramids and wheels to be that effective?

    Thanks again in advance!
  • Hey Chucky,

    Thanks heaps for providing those traffic stats. That was a real eye opener for me as to the amount that can be earned per visitor in the right situation.

    I think this is showing me the extent that targeting buying terms can improve monetization.

    I have often given priority to targeting high volume terms in my niches which often leads to informational terms. I have always known that opting for buyer terms more so than volume can lead to higher CPM, but you stats have really shown me the extent of this.

    I think I will re-read you advice on picking buyer terms and try targeting a few of these sorts of terms for a while to see how it works outs.

    Thanks again for the stats.
  • Amazing !! there is WSO here in this thread..

    I learn SEO from you..But, Could you tell me how setting search term tagging plugin 2 ??

    thanks
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    • Here again, just one questions, when u are building the Amazon sites, do u use any Plugins to build the sites like Reviewazon or any other ones or you just use Amazon Widgets or Links in your post.

      Thank you
  • you are awesome, dude. if you take a vacation here in the Philippines, let me know and Ill buy you a beer.
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  • Great Information, Thanks!
  • Greta work - nice post -I am still have problems with the videos- sound not loud enough- You have inspired me....
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    • No I don't use any of those auto-populate plugins. I have tried Ayaw's plugin (another WSO), but because it didn't give me the kind of flexibility I wanted I didn't continue using it.

      I haven't been a continuous member of SENUKE. I subscribe when I have a bunch of content ready for blasting and within that month I use it maximally.

      I have used Rank Builder (Alex Goad/Maulana) and Magic Submitter in the past. The latter also allows you to schedule your submissions. If SENUKE is 8 out of 10, I would give the above 2 6 out of 10. No real big difference. But if you have some extra time in hand, you can do a couple of link wheels every month as a service for other warriors and make back your monthly subscription.

      About the 3rd question, I honestly don't know for sure. That's because I do a lot of other things as well to my sites at the same time. I don't know if the results I see is from one of them, a combination of them or all of them. As I have mentioned earlier, I don't do an exact link wheel, I do what's called a link magnet (mentioned in the off-page-seo post on page 3 or 4).

      I set it up so that the search terms are shown at the bottom of the post. I set it to show 30 search terms and I also set them to be separated by a comma like kw1, kw2, kw3, kw4 instead of the default which I think is bullet points. I basically take out the <li> symbols for before and after and place a comma in the 'after box'. Those are the only modifications I do from the default settings as far as I remember

      No I don't. I pick what I feel are the top products put them in a table and outline the pros and cons of each of them. That's my homepage/sticky post.

      Now I have a reason to visit the Philippines

      Sorry about the audio/video quality. Video is one of my BIGGEST weaknesses
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    like you put a lot of work into this. Thanks
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    • how did you weather the panda update?

      also you use analytics on your site? if so, not worried about google detecting a footprint through it?
  • what heppened where are the 3 other videos its not playing please fix it i need to see it.
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    • when judging competition what would give you the green light?

      from what i've seen what would give you the green would be 300 or less backlinks to the top site, wal-mart, amazon sites, free hosted sites ...

      am i right? what am i missing?

      what kind of sites would give you the red?
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  • Huge! Marvelous Post,I like it
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  • wow what a post man. You are a Rock !!!! I'm wattling for another post
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  • This is absolute gold.

    There are many ways to make money online, I just think people do not work hard enough to find what their calling is. For me it is niche marketing. You can say that this doesnt work and all ebook you buy are scams, but I reckon 90% of people do do this are not action takers anyway. So they are wasiting their own time and the product creators in the first place.
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  • Such great post. i am surely gonna do as you said. already did keyword research..
    wish me luck
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    • Absolutely! TAKE ACTION - those are the only 2 words you want to succeed

      Well there you go! Perfect example of an ACTION TAKER! All the best to you!

      TAKE ACTION and BE PERSISTENT!
  • Great thread! One of the best I've come across.
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  • Wow. quite a trove of information.
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  • nice info, thx for the post, i will give it a try, i think everything is worth a try as long as its white hat
  • I'm really sorry for this, but I really couldn't found where is the video that you mentioned in the 1st post..

  • I think the video 1-2 is the first post, and 3-7 is here: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post3578602, which make a total of 7 videos.
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  • This is the best thread I've ever read. Will likely follow your footsteps and hope that I'm in the right path. Many Thanks!
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    • Hey, thanks! I have to organize them and link them together. Been too busy lately

      Thanks and All the best
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  • Thank you for this great post!!!
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  • Thanks. I have been there for a while but this post is surely the most detailed and workable for me to get started.
  • wow, Chucky you seem to have given a lot of information since my last visit. I see that it's not complete yet well I think there's enough actionable information there for people anyways. I have been doing my spinning the way you suggested. I don't think I spin as much as you mentioned, but even then I feel I'm getting better index rate and rank boosting effect with what I'm doing. That was a real big eye opener for me. Thank you again man!
  • One question -
    You said that : Main keyword has to be mentioned at a density of 2% (10 times per 500 words)
    Won't the article look a little spammy if the keyword is included 10 times in 500 words.

    And also, will adding a image to each post help.

    I asked you because I was reading this : http://www.seomoz.org/ugc/seo-myths-...eyword-density
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    • That's great news! Keep it up!

      I myself used to use a kw density of 1%. But then I saw a lot of people (even some videos inside StomperNet) recommending much higher figures. Recently I saw people recommending as much as 4%. That would surely look spammy. At least I know Google is fine with my 2%.
      Also, it depends on your kw. If your kw has only 2 words (e.g. green tea) it won't sound spammy. However, if your kw is a 5 word long tail kw like health benefits of green tea, it may sound different.
      In my case, these articles are simply search engine fodder. Once they are ranked, I write my sales pages myself and then I talk to people and not search engines.
      Yeah sure I add pictures to each image. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that.
  • Some great tips in here Chucky! Glad to see you're still adding to this thread. Seems like your great attitude and work ethic has helped you a lot.
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  • Thanks Chucky for opening up this thread !!
    After a long time of reading, I finally finished reading these 8 pages of information!
    They are great!
    I'm very new to either IM or making money online, and this thread is absolutely inspiring.
    However, I have a question here , is all the product you promote is the one you familiar with?
    I'm thinking that if I don't have any knowledge of the product , how should I manage to make it profitable.
    Some more, English is my second language and I'm not good in writing article at all, I'm doubt that I'm not suitable for promoting something with an article.
    I really wish that I could success with these weaknesses.
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    • English is my second language, and that is for many people on the Internet. We are not writing for magazine or English paper! Write the way you talk. They say that most people have a reading level of a 7th grader, so just jump into the water and so more you write so better you get. It's just about doing it and not having excuses why you can't do it.
    • If you were to start a business that is going to earn you multiple hundreds of dollars, how much are you willing to invest? How about $50? $10 for a domain, $17.50 for 5 articles @ 3.50 each from Odesk (that's what I pay, you may be able to get it for $3 or less), the rest for 3 months of hosting. By the end of the 3 months, you should surely have made at least a couple of sales (a typical $40 CB product gives you $26/sale) and should have money to invest in expanding your business. From that point onwards, the growth will be exponential.
      If you watched the videos, you would understand that English is my 2nd language too
      As gudrunsmith mentioned, that is not an excuse
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  • Thanks Chucky! I didn't watch your videos yet, but you give good points and direction, will try out some of your tips to see how it works in my niche.
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  • Definitely worthy to read and try, keep coming, Churky!
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  • Thanks Chucky. You have shared nice ideas on internet marketing. I got some great idea from your post.
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  • thanks for sharing all this great information! i've been looking for a place with collective information.
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  • Where is the Paypal button?
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    • Undergoing a hard time to find my targeted niche market >< Too many products which are seem to be unknown for me..
      Also, is there any free tool for building a backlink ?
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  • Congrats! That means you have money to invest! PM me for an offer you wont wanna miss ;P
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    • Hi Chucky

      First I want to say thankyou for this inspirational thread. I have not got passed the first post yet though, because I tend to go over everything in the finest detail to get as much information as possible to use )

      Thanks for providing would-be affiliates with such inspiration with your success story!
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  • Congrat man and thank you so much for your great post, it will help me lots.
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    • Hello Chucky. Just curious if you are willing to share this information. You might have already provided this information but what would be a % breakdown from where you earn your income, such as amazon, clickbank and commission junction? Could you also give some parameters you use to decide what you will go after? In clickbank, what is a gravity range that you want and not to seem ignorant but exactly what is gravity an indicator of? Sorry for all the questions but if one doesn't ask, one never learns. Thanks again for all the information. Jimmy
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  • I believe I addressed the 'how to select the domain name part' to the best of my knowledge on the original post.

    Commercial intent
    A very simple test you can do is to search 'if there are enough and more affiliates promoting it'. If there are, the chances are it has a good commercial intent.

    Are there a lot of Google adwords ads? Are there FaceBook ads? Are the sites that are ranking in organic results affiliate sites? Does Amazon have it listed as a best selling product for that category? If it's a CB product, how's the gravity? What's the adwords cost? Is it 5 cents or is it $2 (SpyFu)

    There used to be a commercial intent tool from Microsoft MSN, but I believe it doesn't function anymore!

    Sometimes, you do all of this and yet you find that you got it wrong. Still happens to me which means I have not mastered this aspect well. It is believed that the best way to know the commercial intent is to run some adwords ads targeting the kw of interest. If these ads bring you sales, then your SEO efforts are likely to bring you success. If the traffic that clicks your ads for the same kw do not buy the product, the chances are that these kw have poor commercial intent. I've never done this. But I can see why it's the correct way to do it!

    Good luck!
  • Chucky! I never seen ever this types of thread before.First of all congrats for your success! I'll follow and try to do like ..
    Thanks for sharing here
    Good luck!
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    This is a great guide i learned a few tricks.
  • Chucky,

    Awesome job and so unselfish of you to share all the knowledge you have gained with hard work over the years. To accomplish what you have while studying and attending school is just unbelievable! Kudos and I know you will stay the course for your formal education. (although you would probably make more $ doing IM) It is not always about the $ but about being happy in what you do in life!

    Highest regards,

    Edson
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    Hi Chucky,
    thanks for answering my question.
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    • Chuck,

      I have to say something here....what you have done in this thread is just amazing for everyone that has read what you have typed. The information in this thread is invaluable if put to use.

      I want to say one thing about Amazon...during the holiday season it is CRAZY! If you can get ranked high, or even moderately high, for keywords with buying intent you will be STUNNED at the sales you can make.

      I did not experience this until last year and was shocked. Unfortunately for me the Big G sandboxed my two best sites on Thanksgiving night...honestly it ruined my day because I knew the money I was about NOT to make!!

      Even though this cost me THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of dollars I did see what is possible with Amazon during the lead up to Christmas. It was simple AWESOME.

      When I say you can make a full YEARS good income in just a couple of months with Amazon. I am not exaggerating. But you need to get those sites built and get them ranked for buying keywords. Don't wait. If you don't have the sites up now...you need to get to getting.

      Once September hits you will see sales start to increase day after day, week after week, and once Black Friday gets here....hang on!! It is an awful lot of fun.
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  • What an amazing post, I can't thank you enough. I've used this for reference more times than I can count!
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    • Thanks so much for your explanation of a "sticky post". Your explanations are always very clear and easy to understand. Continued success to you. Jimmy
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  • Hi chucky, thanks for this awesome thread.

    After reading this thread, i remembered of my website which i started for adsense but never looked after it.

    But now i checked, that site is based on kids toy and has "1,300" exact search for keyword and i have .net domain.

    When i made tht website i had added amazon product link to some Anchor text keywords in content. So i checked today in amazon and i found tht i got 26 clicks in May. But problem was tht i was using same tracking code for all my previous sites. So don't know are those clicks are for tht product site.

    So forget past..Now i remade tht site as per ur suggestions..on page like u told..made sticky post with good keyword density.

    I placed Amazon Text and Image widget below Post Title and also in right sidebar.

    currently tht website is seating at position 45 for its theme keyword and getting daily 1-2 visits

    So should i start working on it as it has 1,300 exact search for theme kw?
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    • I have also noticed that (some sites don't need to be updated); I am wondering if that depends on your competition. If they also don't add new content and/or backlinks, you may not need to do it as well? I don't know this, I haven't been checking on my competition at that level.

      Just add a few paragraphs ha? Never tried that before. But I have tried adding small posts (250 words) and those seems to be good enough for maintenance; you don't always need those 500 word articles anymore to maintain top positions (disclaimer: with my very limited experience, on the sites I've tried)

      You're most welcome. Good to see that you're taking action!

      That's the main thing you need buddy!

      WHAT YOU THINK MANIFESTS!

      SUCCESS COMES TO YOU NOT THE WAY YOU THINK IT WILL COME, BUT THE WAY YOU THINK!!!

      Oh yeah, that's definitely a winning niche; people go crazy buying toys at Christmas. I'm also in this niche; but unfortunately some of them make VERY LITTLE sales during the rest of the year. One of these toy niches that I'm in haven't made a sale since Christmas for me, despite having 3 sites at #1, #3 and #6-7. Very frustrating

      Oh yes, do start backlinking please. If you have 1,300 exact searches on a regular month (I suspect some of these searches come from kids themselves because I get no sales) expect over 13,000 searches during Nov-Dec which makes up for the whole year

      BTW, I don't just depend on these widgets. I say in BIG BOLD letters, CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THIS ---- TOY. THIS IS AWESOME, YOUR KIDS WILL LOVE THIS kind of thing.

      Good luck!
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  • @ Chacky:
    Man, you are changing lives here!!!
    Thank you for giving us your time and knowledge!

    There is a couple of questions that I'd like to ask you:
    How do you actually select digital products to promote from clickbank or CJ? Do you buy them yourself first?
    I noticed your remark that you sell only digital prods created by others.
    Have you ever thought about creating your own ebook(s) to put on clickbank? What would be cons and pros of that?

    I can't thank you enough....
    All the best to you.
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  • Hey Chucky,

    I was just wondering what your thoughts are on article backlinks considering the Panda update not so long ago. Also, what has been your experience with profile links?

    I've also been wondering about using a sticky post. Sure it keeps the homepage's content fresh when you add new posts yet still have the main content easily visible, but isn't it possible to detract from the on-page SEO in terms of keyword density and all that? Just curious.

    Last question, would you avoid a keyword that looks "easy" but where the first page is littered with edu and gov sites?

    Thanks!
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    • Thank you for your kind comments! You can thank me by earning BIG BUCKS online

      I only buy digital products when I see that they are selling well. Then I would purchase it (or ask for it by writing to the vendor - so far the vendor has given me the product all 3 times I asked) do a PROPER review (e.g. chapter by chapter review etc.) and that would boost my conversions. Something I've wanted to do, but haven't done yet is tell my visitors "Enter your email address to get the chapter by chapter review; that way I will also build the list; have a sales funnel etc. etc. - all the good stuff". I'm sure that will boost the conversions even more.

      Creating my own book - Many pros because there is supposed to be an army of affiliates with lists of 100,000s buyers. I think that is definitely the right thing to do. But unfortunately, as I'm still a student, this is not my priority right now. But will most likely end up doing it down the lane if I believe I can provide people true value; not because it will make me a ton of sales.

      Feel free to ask whatever questions you get.... except asking me if I can take a look at your sites and see what can be improved I get a ton of PMs requesting that and unfortunately I have to turn them down.

      Hey,

      I continue to use articles in many ways.

      My first layer of links (directly pointing to the money site) have web 2.0 blogs like Blogger, wordpress.com, press releases, article directories (the better ones like Ezine, GoArticles, ArticlesBase etc.), videos, software submissions etc. Also a few high PR profile links (.com, .edu whatever that I find to be high PR).

      Then my second layer has more web 2.0 blogs, bookmarks, profile links and articles via mass article distribution (AMR and I sometimes buy a few services from the warriors for hire section). I do multiple AMR submissions over and over and schedule them so that articles are published at a rate of 100/24 hours. However, I'm finding that only 15-20 articles get actually published out of these 100. But I don't think that matters. AMR right now has over 7000 directories, but only about 600 - 1000 are successfully published. But I'm not complaining, that's plenty to me. Besides, I don't think 7000 copies of the same spun article will get indexed or give me any additional benefit than the 700 that get published.

      This was my strategy before Panda and it remains the same after Panda. If I take articles and profile links out of the equation, would my results be any different? I have no idea!

      But as far as ranking articles; I'm not even going to try. I had several Ezine articles, 1 GoArticle and 1 ArticlesBase article and a couple of press releases that were ranking. I lost all of them. Fortunately they were not my big earners.

      I don't think you've gotten hold of the sticky post concept properly. The whole idea behind using a sticky post is to avoid the homepage refreshing. You make it static, so that your on page SEO factors stay constant. I always set my homepage to display only 1 post and that post is my sticky. If you set your homepage to display 3 posts with one sticky, then what you say can happen. Got it?

      I can't give a definitive answer to your last question because I haven't tried ranking a site under such circumstances. My gut feeling is that if SERPs have .gov and .edu, it's probably an informational phrase (unless it's something like Govt Grants which can be monetized as well). I'm not sure, if their on page and off page factors are poorer than yours you should theoretically be able to outrank them. But would their 'authority aka trust' factor weigh against you? I don't know!

      Hope that helps!
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  • Its marvelous thread you created.Its totally amazing man
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    • Hi Chucky,

      Just wanted to add my thanks for the effort that you've put into this thread.

      I own a number of WSOs and other SEO guides and you've given all of us the same material for free.

      Much appreciated!!
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  • Hello Chucky, I am new to the whole IM community and have been lurking here and backlinkinkforums for quite a while. I have a small blog with iphone game reviews and it is currently making abou 0.50$ per day in adsense. I realized how many mistakes I made by reading this thread, so thank you a whole lot on that...

    I am planning on keeping the blog and would like to know, if you have time obviously, what changes should I make to increase traffic and revenue from my ads? The site is iphonegamespace.com (cant post links yet due to my post count...)

    Thanks again for providing such in detail guides, it was very helpful and looking forward to reading more work by you.

    EDIT: lol i just read ur previous comment about not taking looks at existing sites, well it is understandable you get so many requests. Thanks with whatever you can provide, keep it up!
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    • Thank you Mark, appreciate those words. I hope people appreciate that and not downgrade the info just because it's free. I guess it's part of human nature to assume that higher the price - better the quality.

      Thanks again Mark!

      Hey, thank you for understanding. I just took a 30 second look at your site and what I could see is that your AdSense ads are not in the 'hot-spots'. You might want to read a little bit about the optimum kind of ads and ad placement. Search for a thread on AdSense by John aka X Factor here on WF and you'll find plenty of valuable free tips there.

      Ask yourself these questions. What is your main kw? Is it one with high commercial intent? Do you think people that come to your site are looking to buy things or rather free information seekers? What products do your competitors promote? How have they monetized their sites?

      I feel that there are plenty of 'free games/cheap apps' in that niche and that you may not be able to monetize it too profitably. Of course, I may be totally wrong; I'm not working in these niches. But if the answers to those questions happen to be what I feared, may be you should embark on a new niche, one that can be monetized better although it may not be your specialty. Failing fast is WAY BETTER THAN failing slow. Besides, if you learned a lesson about picking a monetizable market, it's not even a failure. It's a success!

      Pick a top selling product on Amazon. Now that cannot be a failure. It's a top seller. In that case, you should probably not pick the main kw (product name); but there will be plenty of sub-niches with plenty of low competition high commercial value kw such as kw review, kw deals, kw for 12 year olds, kw for toddlers, kw for kids; boys; girls; adults, best type of kw for toddlers etc. etc that are bound to be winners.

      Don't hesitate to bring on your questions other than 'please do a X-ray of my site'

      Hope that helps!
      Chucky
  • Hey man, cool info for seasoned IMers. Good stuff
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  • This is an amazing thread - one of the most helpful I have seen on this or any other forum!

    Thanks Chucky!
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    • Hey Chucky, just dropping by here to say you're awesome!

      I've been inactive here cause I'm too busy producing websites =)
  • Hey Chucky,

    I hope everything is going great with you, have 2 quick questions if you got the time,

    1) Google Wonder Wheel no longer seems to be operational, what other tool would you recommend in finding secondary keywords? Perhaps I should just use GAKT?

    2) Are there any link building services that you could recommend? I figure, for example, if it'll cost $60 for all the links for a site that will potentially make more than that every month, then it would be well worth it to outsource that type of work to the "experts," especially considering that I'm not sure what sort of link building is the most effective and would rather spend a little on testing first before I invest in something larger (will be doing some case studies) I heard Hoist Seo is quite good, any experience with them or others?
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    • Hey Chucky,

      Thank you very much for this gold topic!!
      Believe me that I take right now notes like I was in primary school.
      I hope that I have enough strength and wisdom to put in practice all your valuable advices.


      Cheers!
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  • That's great to hear! The more the merrier! If you're targeting BF (or otherwise), you have to have multiple websites to get considerable commissions. Try and cover what women buy; kids buy; men buy for Christmas!

    Hey,

    Wonder wheel works perfectly fine for me. Just checked for multiple search phrases. Clear your cache; restart the comp and try again.

    The only problem is for $60, you don't get a lot of bang for your buck. An article directory submission service will give you like 5 spun articles max (check out a service on warriors for hire run by a guy named Apoorv; I've used it with good success). In contrast, I get like 1000 submissions/month by spending around $300 (Ultra Spinnable Articles; UAW, Art. ranks, AMR, SENUKE). I didn't do that at the beginning obviously. But the cheapest for you would be to subscribe to one or two of the minis at the leading articles ($17/month) and then to subscribe to article ranks and UAW on alternating months.

    I'm also subscribed to a blog commenting service called 'Easy Blog Comments' (A WSO run by a guy called MetaFever). I think it's good; but I've only been with them for 2 months, so I can't tell you anything definitively.

    Hoist SEO, I think does profile links right? I haven't done any profile link building after Panda; so I can't give you a correct answer. I do profile linking everyday using Don and Jeremy's Mega Link Blaster (1500 profiles/day); but those are not directly on my money site, but as a Tier 2 or 3.

    Sorry bud, there is no EASY BUTTON that I know of!
    Chucky

    All the best man! I'm sure it's only a matter of time until you earn your 6 figures.
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    • Thanks for the detailed reply as always!

      When you say 1000 submissions, does each submission consist of hundreds or thousands of submits to different directories and networks?

      I've checked out Leading Articles before but couldn't really figure out what they're offering exactly. It seems that you only get to choose the broad niche topic, is that correct? So you might have a website about, HD TVs, for example, and leading articles would just give you articles on electronics in general? Do you alter them yourself such as adding in your own anchor text into the spintax? Or am I just completely wrong about this?:confused:

      I don't really understand the alternating between UAW and Article Ranks part. Do you just mean gradually sign up to these services one at a time when I'm able to afford it?

      So I guess you're a firm believer in doing everything yourself through software as opposed to backlink services? I'm just afraid I'll go crazy with something like SeNuke X with all the setup, proxies, and not to mention the price. Well, maybe I should start with purchasing AMR and go from there? Although last time I tried the AMR trial, I don't think any of my articles were indexed (I sent like 1000 in total)
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  • Thanks for the latest post chucky. I have failed to find this topic using the search function. I refreshed my page then and saw this topic just sittin there, nice! Thanks also for this awesome topic!





















































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  • wow this thread has been of great use for someone like me..thanks a lot..I will be asking lot of questions in coming weeks
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  • Chucky,

    I forget to add. Once you have all 5 page contents published over the period of a month. Do you update your website at all? I know you mention something like that somewhere but I can't seem to find it. Because I saw people saying "content is king", update your site every 2-3 days. What do you think?
  • Hello chunky
    I have to thank you for your informative posts, im kinda a newbie and at i have learned a lot from it
    as my english is not very good , there are some things that i can not totally understand
    so i will tell u briefly what i have done , as that is my first website i want you to kindly review it
    1-kw's and pages
    i selected 4 kw's and create one page for each kw , the pages addressed as follows
    www.mysite.com/kewword-one
    www.mysite.com/kewword-two , etc
    i did not block my site while adding content so all pages were indexed including privacy, contact us and terms
    hope you can help me how to get them deindexed and make them nofollow because i did not understand this from posts , may be im a little dumb
    and do you have any suggestions and notices about this part ?

    2-Content
    in every page the keyword is in H1,H2, bold in the first paragraph and italic in the last paragraph, kw density is 1%
    should i have a clickable kw phrase pointing to the same page ?

    about links that pointing to another sites
    i have text phrases linking to wikipedia and amazon(aff link) using normal linking method in wp
    and banners from amazon with my aff link embedded
    does all these links will affect my link juice ? is it necessary to make those links nofollow including banners ? and how i could do so ?

    3-plugins
    i only installed these plugins
    1-all in one seo
    2-google analytics
    3-google xml sitemap
    4-contact
    5-privacy

    is there any other plugins you would suggest ?
    thanks in advance
    see you
  • Hey Seb,

    Thanks! OK now to your questions!

    First of all, make 100% SURE that you have done your kw research right. Wrong kw with #1 position that make no money can be really frustrating. I'm still making that mistake after all this 'experience'

    There should be plenty of good (SEO wise - that's all I would worry right now) free themes. I can't give you a name because I don't know of any. You can search WF or Google in general and find out if there are any particular free themes that people recommend as SEO friendly.

    Here are some tips that can help you decide if a particular theme is good or not.
    1. Do some random searches on Google and look at the theme top ranking sites have used. Are they free themes? Since somebody else seems to be able to rank that theme at the top, there probably shouldn't be too much wrong with it. Of course this is very vague.
    2. Here is a random thesis site that I found online How To Make My Blog. Here is a random non-thesis site that I found online Bride Wedding Speeches. Go to each of them, then look at their source code (View --> Page source on your web browser). Now see how organized the stuff at the top of the thesis theme is compared to the other one. Also do a search within the source code (ctrl + F) for <h1> and <h2> tags. See where they are. On the non-thesis site above, you will see that there are many h2 tags around featured posts, search, about me, tags etc. I think that's a waste as far as on page SEO is concerned. But on the thesis theme, that kind of headers are h3 tags. Also click in to each post like Bride Wedding Speeches - The Perfect Speech | Bride Wedding Speeches and 9 Values and Characteristics Any Serious Blogger Should Possess and see where the H1 and H2 tags are. On the former, I don't see any H1 tags! I THINK (I want to emphasize that I don't know this exactly) it is things like these that make one theme better than the other SEO wise. DISCLAIMER: I'm not an expert on this kind of thing; this is what was in my head, I don't remember where I picked it up from.
    Paid plugins - well SEO pressor is almost essential. But if you follow my on page checklist exactly, I think it covers everything SEO pressor does. Instead of the ping crawl turbo, try to look for a free plugin that auto-pings your site every time you get a visitor.

    I wouldn't trust anyone else to add content to my sites. I have trained one guy, but even after building more than 10 sites, I still find things that he misses.

    How to make use of the $350?
    SENUKE X - $147
    Ultra Spinnable Articles - $97 (or $17 if you pick up the minis)
    AMR - $97 one time
    Article directories - UAW $67, article ranks $39

    Do 1 SENUKE submission per week and an article submission to UAW/AR at least every other day. Then do AMR submissions as a Tier 2 of links to SENUKE properties and UAW articles. Keep your free day for scheduling SENUKE and AMR. Try to find a kid on Fiverr or Craigslist that will submit an article to UAW or AR for like 50 cents/article. Just email him the article daily or give him access to your ultra spinnable article account.

    Look forward to the questions man!

    Not really! I have sites that have ranked at #1 that were unmoved by Panda with as little as 3 posts. All my early sites had only 3 posts (some even 2); the change to 5 posts was something that I did relatively recently. But then again, when I see a particular niche is making more than the others, I add new content to target LTKW. But if I'm only targeting my theme kw, I don't add more content.

    Will answer the other questions later guys thanks for your patience!
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    • Hey Chucky,

      Many thanks for the advice, it's great that you are so open about what you do to make a living Online.

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      Just a few questions about the above if you or anyone else can share some more information on the subject...

      I have been considering SENUKE X for a month or so now and think it would be a good investment, I have also heard it mentioned, on here, that it is possible to make your money back on the purchase price by offering a Backlinking Service...poss on Fiverr or similar...which sounds great to me .

      Quick Question ref SENUKE.

      * Do you continue to build links to your sites on a weekly basis for the life of the site?

      I am not 100% about Ultra Spinnable Articles. $97.00 p/m sounds a lot of cash for articles to use for Backlinking. As I understand it, I would have access to just one article per day from their site and I would use that article to submit to UAW or AR. Is that correct?

      30 articles @ $97.00 = $3.23 per article, I can get re-writes done at that, but appreciate that would take some managing so there is some value in convenience for Ultra Spinnable Articles.

      Here are my questions on Ultra Spinnable Articles:

      If i have say 25 sites that need articles submitting to UAW/AR every other day I will need to submit roughly 12 articles per day (this will be growing exponentially as I increase my protfolio so could become a very massive job)

      * Would all this content be available from UAW? Can I get more than one article per day?

      * Would I continue to submit articles at this level for every profitable site I have for the entire life of the site?

      * Will I be restricted to certain Niches because of Ultra Spinnables content availablility? eg, if they don't compile articles on that niche/product what happens?

      * Does Each Submission to UAW/AR contain a link back to my main money site?

      In reference to AMR, I think a grasp the concept of linking back to the SENUKE properties so this seems again like a great idea to support my overall foundations for my sites.

      My main question would be:

      * At what point or what criteria do you use to decide a site is worth investing all this effort in?

      For eg, I have an Amazon site that is 3 months old, going through a bit of a Tango with google atm, I assume due to some recent link building I have done, but earning roughly $30.00p/m. The site is consistently front page for my targetted KW and a few other supportive KW's. Is $30p/m enough to justify hitting it with all this Linkbuilding? (search volume is about 4000 global)

      Thanks for taking the time to read my posts, in the time I have been struggling with IM, you are the first person to take the time to answer my questions without trying to deal me into a product.

      Many Thanks, you are a great help to many of us novices!

      Seb
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  • Hey.. I have a doubt.. I saw your link wheel guide.First time I am reading about it.Thanks

    So I have a site with content.. I write articles and submit 1 to article directory.. Now I take that link of article in directory and submit it to a url submission software(maybe not an article link but some other page linking to my site)..Is it not better considering sometimes link submission softwares can submit it to crappy sites which dont do much. Or should I use link submission software to submit my site only..More links to the site which linkyour site, makes it better right..If thats correct it will also loosen the risk of problems of getting crappy links rite.

    Sorry if this is a dumb guess
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    • Hi Chucky and fellow warriors,

      I hope those that are completely new to SEO realize how valuable and how much time this information can save them for getting their sites to rank. I strongly believe that people should rank a lower competitive keyword at first to boost their confidence. I feel that I am somewhat an expert in this because most of the few sites I have built are lower competitive keywords and usually land on the first page(even though the #1 spot usually eludes me for some reason) My problem comes in off page SEO. I usually get to the first page and then I take a break and expect the sales to come rolling in. The most sales I ever had came from one site that I have built which used a brand name...let's just say that I got rid of that one as quickly as possible. I am writing this post to help people think about what they are trying to do with their sites in the long term and to also stress the importance of kw research. I have a few sites on page one but sales and clicks are scarce. I am working on finding the keywords that can help people find what they are looking for. As Chucky said,....FIND THOSE BUYER KEYWORDS.
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  • Btw, I haven't made any sales that wow me yet. Just 2 small sales. lesson learned, pick products that cost MORE or high commission products. i think my 1st site got sandboxed. 2nd site on 1st page, 3rd site on 2nd page, 4th site on 1st page, just finished 5th and working on 6th right now.
  • I wish I would have seen this post a couple years ago. My main site that was completely supporting me got caught in the algo change. Since then I have been scrambling to replace that income.

    Definitely don't put all your eggs in one basket...
  • You make me blush Thanks!
    But you know what! It's all YOU; because you're the one who took action. I can preach all day but unless you take action nothing will happen. Congrats to you! Your constant contributions have also encouraged me to come here and answer people's questions etc. Keep it up and thank you for your time!
    I use Hide My Ass $9.95/month plan and I set the IP address to change every .5 hours. I think that's the best and cheapest. May not be ideal if you use Scrapebox though.

    BTW, do you make sure your links from SENUKE gets indexed? Have you used the indexer module? I use ScrapeBox to check if they are A) Live B) Indexed. Then I take the live links and build links on to them using AMR and others.

    As far as those sales go - been there done that; looks like a mistake we all make at the beginning of our IM carriers

    As far as the positions go HOLY MACARONI!! That's amazing. WOW! I don't think I ever had such a success rate 2 out of 4 sites on page 1!
    As you can see, just because you're on the 1st page you don't necessarily make sales until you climb up to the TOP 5 and above!

    This is where you should work on your homepage Title and description to attract more clicks which will help you rank higher. Also work on conversions.

    Also, I wouldn't say that first site is sand boxed... probably the dance...keep building new links and may be even add a couple of pages of content, just because it's 'sand boxed'. It is still indexed on Google right? Make sure you build some links to inner pages with 2ry kw anchor text.

    Sorry to hear that, but I guess it happens to most of us and we only learn the lesson when it does finally happen

    Hey buddy!

    Remember, I may have said that, however do it at your own risk! It's not the most white hat practice although many keyword research guides encourage you to target these PNK - Product Name Keywords

    I'm not the only one. Look at these searches on GOogle

    http://www.google.com/search?q=provi...GGL_en___US327

    http://www.google.com/search?q=bowtr...GGL_en___US327

    A popular warrior owns one of the #1 sites.
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    • NO....... Chucky, HOLY MACARONI to THIS! Remember I told you my first site was at like #6 or #7 then I thought it got sandboxed, let me tell you why. So I built links 1-2 weeks I have my site up, then it started climbing right? then it suddenly dropped to rank 700s 1-1/2 months ago and it kind of started to climb up again but it just stuck at 400s for over a month and I think 1 week ago I check again it was total disappeared....

      TODAY I checked, I am at #2 SPOT for a local exact 4,400 search keyword!
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  • Thanks so much for the info, you are truly an inspiration!
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  • Yup chucky.. Thats what I wanted to know.. But is there a chance that google finds out we are using tier 1 links and another set of links pointing to it..Isnt it a bit unnatural according to google.. Anything you use to fool google
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    • We shouldn't give Google too much credit - Google, as in the human beings reading this thread now , can tell what you are up to, but it is very difficult, if not impossible, for an algorithm to detect unnatural behaviour in many cases.

      For example, your '1st tier' page (your article, web 2.0, whatever) probably has LOTS of outgoing links on it of various kinds. How is the Google-Monster supposed to 'know' WHICH of those linked sites is actually trying to game it and gain a SEO benefit? Very difficult - I personally think they have quite major problems generally - you can't discount links or even penalise them unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure that they are 'artificial', lest you penalise a 'legitimate' site, and that is just not possible in most cases.
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  • Chucky, thats cool, it inspires me

    I started my IM business 1 month ago and got only 10 page view per day only (yes, i am not smart enough). I hope someday i can make decent income like you do

    Would like to ask a) how many website od you have, b) average page # and c) hows their daily traffic.
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    • WOW ! Great post Chucky. Thank you very much
      I'm new on IM. I should have more learn from you and practise a lot.
      I found your articles here is about PPS, how about PPC (adsense), can you explain me about monetizing adsense?
      because most people said PPS (amazon,CB) is the hardest way, and adsense is the easiest, what's your opinion about that?

      Regards,
      Felix
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  • OMG...what an explanation and what a post!!! Where was I ? I should have joined warrior forum before......Thank you so much chucky...
  • Going to have to check out Ultra Spinnable Articles.
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    • Sorry if you have answered this already, but how did you get around Amazon's removal of its affiliate program from Illinois? It seems that you are doing fine, but did you setup your business in another state or something?

      If you answered this already, please just refer me to the page in your thread, its rather long now
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  • wow thanks for this. talk about detailed.
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  • I've bookmarked this page and will be implementing all of this as soon as possible Going to start with taking your(Chucky) current outline posts and put them into a Word file and print it up

    Your keyword research part is something I constantly get wrong, as is commercial intent, so I'm going to follow all that very carefully.
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    • Great to hear! Feel free to bug me for any specific questions you may come across by posting on this thread please!

      All the best!
      Chucky
  • this sounds awesome!! cant wait to get started!!!!

    --cory
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  • Hey,

    The thing is, if you spend time to spin at such a depth (as I have suggested), you can use those for multiple submissions. I don't manually spin anymore and I purchase highly spun articles from theleadingarticles.com

    You don't always have to spin at such a depth. But the more you spin them, the 'smaller' the footprint!

    Your strategy sounds fine. However, I NEVER link 2 spun articles together. From what I could understand, it appears as if you're going to spin the same articles as on your money site and then submit them to article directories that will link to the original articles. If you do that I suggest you at least link the spun version of article 3 to original article 1, spun version of article 2 to original article 3 etc.

    Hope that helps!

    Congrats! That sounds awesome! Lets hope this also has high commercial intent and makes you better sales than last time!

    Was there anything that you did specifically during that time period or did you not do anything at all while it was buried all that deep?

    Wow so all 5 of your sites are now on pages 1-2 if I remember right?


    Absolutely!

    I too am going through one of those newbie moments since last night. I too had one of my BIG sites disappear y'day. It had about 40 posts and was getting like 300 visitors daily. This site was one of the weirdest sites I've had. During the early days (it's about 3 years old), it used to dance and disappear for weeks/months with every single link I built to it. Then it would come back stronger than earlier every time. What I also noticed was that when it came back, it was ranking for another term, and another and so on. And last year it became #1 for it's main kw that was searched about 300 times/month. Yeah I know bad kw research during those early days. But then it was also ranking for multiple high traffic kw (as much as 250,000/month) at various positions from page 1 through page 10.

    I started building links using those high traffic kw as anchor text and I just hit page #1 for one of those kw last month. It also had at least 10 #1 positions for long tail keywords as far as knew. Because of the multiple rankings, it was bringing in a considerable amount of traffic and $ over the last year or so.

    Y'day it hit top 5 in the morning and by evening it was gone! It's not only gone for that high traffic kw but for all other kw as well. Sure, when I do site:mysite.com command on the Google search bar, all pages are indexed. So I'm hoping/wishing/praying/begging Google god this is another dance and it will come back stronger (I'll take it even if it's weaker). But until then, I will have to put up with that dent in traffic and $.

    There's more to the story! I bought a link building package offered as a WSO here. The first package I bought for a different site pushed it about 20 positions from page 4-5 to page 2-3. That's the only reason why I ordered the same package to this site as well. I usually don't let others build links to my money makers. But I thought the site was immune to anything since it was over 3 years old and it has over 3000 links on YSE and over 1000 on Google web master tools and I have subjected it to worse backlinking programs like Xrumer blasts. Boy was I wrong?

    And there's more to the story!

    It disappeared together with another site that was ranking #2 for a low volume but high commercial value kw and I'm ready to swear that Google is on to me . Both sites were in the same niche and both sites had similar home pages. One was basically a rewrite of the other. They were both product review pages and compared 3 products which were the same.

    Does Google know both sites are mine? Although I have them in two different Analytics accounts, I think Google knows that both those email accounts belong to the same person! May be I'm worrying too much about things that I shouldn't worry about! But as I said earlier, I feel like that newbie!

    Anyways I'm going to change the two home pages a little bit, something I've been meaning to do for a while now. Gonna make that priority for this week. Actually I have a 3rd site which has a similar homepage which I could never rank. May be the reason is all these 3 look similar (not identical by any means) and I ought to change them all! Wish me luck
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    • Chucky,

      I got an e-mail from someone wants to buy my 1st site that just got to #2-#3 spot.... I haven't reply it to yet... what do you think? This site had made me 1.20 total from 2 sales when I was at #7. I am on #2-#3 since yesterday and I haven't seen any sales made.

      I got an message from my affiliate manager, from the private network that I told you guys about. He told me I made my first sale! COMMISSION = $32.25! He told me he will increase my commission rate if I put a link to the website which I did. So I should be getting COMMISSION = $45.14.

      Imagine... $45.14 x 100 sales.... = $4514

      Btw, I am on the 1 page for this site (This is my 4th site) but only at #8 spot. Imagine if I am #1........ $_$
  • Chucky:

    First thanks for the great information given so selflessly.
    Now, a total newbie question:

    I am building several WP sites as add-on domains under a single Bluehost account. The WP sites are set up in the root directory of the main bluehost account name as follows

    Bluehost account name = prospect.net
    Site name 1: persianweaverugs.net (created in root)
    Site name 2: windowreplacement.org (created in root)

    But the problem is that for Site 1, the site URL will turn out to be:
    http://www.prospect.net/persianweaverrugs......

    Will the first part (prospect.net) affect the SEO of the sites. If so, what is the way around this? Do i have to set up each WP site in its own separate bluehost account? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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    • Seems like many people have seen a dance in their websites, look at this post "something up google panda lately" on june 6th


      Need more post juice to link ...
  • Awesome job! You're doing great and you've already spread out your business into other income streams. You're set up to make tons of profit... keep going and keep us all updated on your successes!
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    • Hi Chucky,

      MAJOR Thanks for the useful and valuable information. You have inspired me to try new ideas and put more effort in all my sites and try different techniques. I am in the process of making a few new sites so will definitely be using your formula to try and boost my earnings from those.

      I have a question regarding Amazon or Clickbank products....how do you get people to actually buy?

      Do you use an amazon widget with the product in it or link to the product page in Amazon or CB?
      Do you write some content eg a review and then say YOU CAN BUY IT HERE and then link to it or just drop the link in harmlessly?
      Or do you use a completely different strategy.

      I often find I am getting the right traffic but not converting enough sales for CB or Amazon products.

      Thanks again for all your amazing advice.
  • I went ahead and bought the EMD domain anyway, but I'd like your opinion on this Chucky.

    The keyword I want gets 880 exact searches a month. It has a good CPC of over $1. It's "phrase match" searches for competition are less than 50,000. All that looks pretty good to me so far.

    The SERP for the keyword has a LOT of top level domains in the niche but that are not optimized for the keyword at all. Most of them have a very strong internal link structure that gives them 1000s of Inlinks. There's two pages in the search results which stand out. One is more optimized than the rest mentioning the keyword in it's URL(not top level), is a subdomain, and repeats it many times throughout the page in it's text. It carries a modest PR of 1 but made me think I could get there too.

    The other page, the #10 result, mentions the keyword more in passing. It's a text site that is clearly targeting the Adsense value of the term. There is plenty of Adwords ads for this term, but those 2 sites give me some hope. They have a decent amount of backlinks, through Web Directories mostly, it seems.

    I used the Wonder Wheel to get more keywords related to it, the ones that made the most sense to write content on, and bought the EMD. Indications show me this is a buying keyword, and if it proves not to be, Adsense should do something, so I may end up with something either way.

    I don't have any of the paid tools and did this all manually. Am I on the right track?
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    • Oh yes definitely... that is not good. What it looks like to me is you're adding it as a directory. That is no good. I don't know the setup inside BlueHost, so I suggest you talk to their tech support and get it sorted out ASAP! You will find it extremely difficult (if not impossible) to get good SEO benefits that way!

      You shouldn't have to set up a separate account for each domain. That's the idea of add on domains as far as I understand. You must have done something wrong in your control panel! Hope you are able to sort it out soon!

      Thanks man! Here's the thread http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...da-lately.html

      So it's not just me! Some guys had good fortune (like our MaineCoon) and some guys had misfortune (like Chucky).

      Lets wait and see what Google does here. Thanks again for directing me to that thread! I O U one

      Tough question! Let's see... assuming this email was from a genuine person. If it was genuine, the chances are it's from a 'vendor'/product creator/physical product owner kind of guy. If that is the case, you might be able to sell it for a good price.

      Ask yourself this question. At 60c/sale, how much are you going to make from the site/year considering the traffic volume you get/commercial intent. I'm going to be really pessimistic here and say you're site will only make commissions of about $500. Even if that is true, I wouldn't sell it for less than $1000, because c'mon for god sake it's #2.

      But then again, my analysis may be completely off. I've never sold a site, or even a domain. So you should probably seek the advice of somebody else. Sorry MaineCoon.

      Put a link to the website? To the affiliate network or product site? Either way make sure it's an affiliate link and also that it's not going to leak any clicks which otherwise could have converted to sales. The math certainly sounds very promising! Keep us updated!

      I don't rely on widgets alone. I would put something like "Click Here for More Information" in text or buttons. Recently I saw a WSO by a warrior by the name of JRCarson (who has even posted on this thread -somewhere in the 3rd/4th pages). He has an excellent WSO on conversions from Amazon. I didn't read it completely yet, but from the little I read, it looked good. Here it is, I found it and it's only 7 bucks

      Then another EXCELLENT WSO on conversions which I read from front to back from a ClickBank top 1% marketer. I highly recommend it, he gives away some brilliant call for action buttons. Here it is http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-400-sold.html

      Both above WSOs are 7 bucks, highly recommended.

      I'll answer other questions later, a busy night!
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    • Hey, sorry for the delay in answering your question. You seem to be doing the process right. However, I can't give an exact answer without knowing the exact sites that are competing.

      Can you pls tell me if I understood this right? "Most of them have a very strong internal link structure that gives them 1000s of Inlinks" Are you referring to links to the page of interest from the same domain? I guess this can only happen with Authority sites, article directories that have 1000s of pages.

      You should also look at the use of the kw in the title, meta description and H tags as well.

      I too won't worry about PR 1 of that site. From what I know web directory links are not hard to beat at all. So everything looks good!

      Yes you certainly seems to be on the right track. Don't hesitate to bring on any other questions you may come across!
      Chucky
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  • Can i ask a question about keywords in articles please. Say we want 4 keywords per article. 3 of the keywords we find are very very similiar. 2 of them are actually the same thing almost, for example: adidas predator reviews and adidas predator review.

    Would you still try and have each of these appear in the article twice if they was secondary keywords?

    Or would you discard one and find a new keyword that isnt as similiar?
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    • Chucky,

      I got a total of $70.10 commission for 2 sales in 2 days... this is so big for me. The site does not even rank top #5 but on the 1 page.
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  • Wow Chucky...

    This is one of the best-written, info-packed threads I have seen posted here on the Warrior Forum. This is a must-read for newbies looking for guidance.

    I especially liked your section on keyword research. I have worked with TONS of newbies, and most greatly under-estimate the importance of proper keyword research. But you are correct, if you rush this step and pick the wrong keywrd phrases, it won't matter how hard you will work...chances are that you will never see any profits from your efforts. Sad but true.

    Again, great job on this thread. Lots of value given away for free. Very generous of you.

    JoeMack
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    • Appreciate those words sir! It's great to heat that from a Senior Warrior. I myself have paid the price of poor kw research. And it can really slowdown your success or even completely throw you out of IM even before you've begun!
      I only hope people make use of what I've provided. Thanks again!

      Sounds great! Will be looking forward to hearing your success!

      OK, let us know if there are any questions that you come across! Good luck!
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  • Hey Chucky,

    I know you mentioned the other day that a few of your sites had been hit by Google. I was wondering if you had seen any change today?

    A bunch of my sites popped up from out of nowhere and now have top rankings again.

    Cheers!
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    • Congrats man! No such luck for me I'll just keep praying!
  • I hope you get your sites back.. Thanks for your thread, it has been very useful.
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    • Chucky - Hope your sites are ok and haven't been badly affected by Panda - you are amazingly generous sharing your methods like this!


      A question if you have time to answer - say I have an existing site with a bit of age and 100+ posts with a generic domain name like bestfreezer .com all the posts being about freezers of various types, how freezers work, freezer recipes etc. but not targeted towards any particular make and model of freezer and not ranking for anything much - how would you adapt this site to your system? Or would you forget it and start again?

      I am thinking of either writing a front page (sticky) post as you describe about the best keyword I can find for a particular model of freezer and target the entire site towards that although it won't be in the domain name - OR - sticky a "Top 10 Freezers" post to the front page with links to a post targeted to each individual type of freezer.


      With your larger sites that have 30+ posts, are all the posts just about one particular product?
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  • Nice, this thread is still going strong!

    It's on fire!

    A very useful thread indeed. I wished this was available to me back in 2010 when I had started.

    This is the thread of the year for 2011.
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    • Hey Chucky, I have a question for your (if it's not too personal).

      What is the content like that you put on your niche-sites? I mean, do you just ramble about the product so the content seems relevant (a tactic sometimes used with adsense sites), so do you write in a manner to sell. That is, are your pages reviews, comparisons, descriptions, etc?

      Sorry if this was covered earlier in the thread. I read through and didn't see it.

      Thanks for all of the effort you've put into this thread and all of the knowledge you have shared.
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  • Hey Chucky,

    I was looking through another WOO and found that you've left a comment, as well. The WSO was about building links through PAD submissions. Have you personally had any experience with this type of link building? The author claims to ranks sites pretty high within 24-72 hours, which seems pretty bold to me. Nevertheless, I just thought I'd ask you about it as perhaps it can be quite effective even if it's not quite as powerful as he says.






















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    • Hey! Long time no see

      Is this Joe Malibu's WSO you're referring to? If it is, yes I definitely recommend the software he uses for PAD submissions. As you will see on this post I made on April 2nd, I mention that I use Promosoft (which is twice the price of what Joe recommends) together with something IncanSoft's Big Mike recommends (for producing the PAD file).

      I had honestly done this only a handful of times (before Joe Malibu's WSO) simply because it was too difficult and time consuming. I also felt I was spamming because I was simply making a PDF and making a PAD file out of it and that's what I submitted. But Joe shows how to make an actual software (free method) and now I don't feel I'm spamming software directories with PDFs.

      I don't know if this alone can give you a top 10 ranking. I only used to do this as a last resort when everything else didn't work. Once or twice I used a round of software submission on a site that was stuck at #3-4 and a few days after the submission I got #1. This could have been an effect of the software submission.

      After Joe's WSO, I bought the submitter he recommends and instead of submitting to all 1000 in one go, I submitted at 100/day. I've only done it once and again I saw an improvement in rankings. I didn't hit page 1 because this is a real tough kw that I'm after.

      So take home message is it works. And especially if your competitors don't have them, you are bound to get an edge over them.

      Hope that helps! And sorry for the delay in responding (didn't check the thread for a couple of days)

      Hey,

      Actually the reason I don't spend time on putting up a sales page is not because I'm not sure if it would make the 1st page or not. It's because I have to write it myself and I don't have time (I'm a graduate student with a lot of lab research - even during summer ).

      However, the point you make is also valid. You don't know for sure if it's going to make it to page 1. But I like to think positive Four out of five of the last network I made (actually the one before the last one) hit the 1st page (#3, #3, #6, #10 and #16). Unfortunately this was a bad niche, which I still can't believe. It's an Amazon toy niche and sales are unbelievably bad. So bad that one day I'm going to reveal all 5 sites and launch a WSO .

      I'm also not one that moves from niche to niche. I try to consolidate a niche using different groups of kw. Vertical and lateral kw research!! Once you see that a particular niche has buyers willing to spend money, you should conquer different kw and try to make inroads to different markets! Hope that makes sense.

      Affy links? I believe NOT having affiliate links at least until you hit the first 10 pages is good. But not sure if it is correct or not. In the past, I have had affy links from day 1 and still gotten #1 eventually!

      Hope that helps and feel free to bring 'em on
      Chcuky

      Getting late for something Seb, will answer your question tonight/tomorrow morning. Short answer is 'NO it's not a good thing'
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    • Wow, amazing stuff
      I was lucky I read chucky

      This stuff has been priceless, so I just wanted to offer something back to everyone who may be interested.
      (sorry as this is my first post I can't show real link)

      You can grab a free .edu blog by visiting
      all the ws. academia dot edu slash signup

      Sign up as an independent researcher
      fill in the form
      and you're good to go

      Linking works best if you do it like academics rather than marketers, so post short articles and list links at the bottom of the text, rather than inside the content.

      I only picked up on this a few days ago, seems kosher, but I suggest you hurry, cos they'll be closing this back door soon...

      Also, looking for anyone who fancies 'swapping' Yahoo Answer links...
      (Like you ask a q, vote me winner and I'll return the favour)
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    • Chucky, I was wondering. You said early on that you link from your sites to authority pages (is this correct?). Are these links no-follow?

      Thanks again.
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  • Hi Chucky,

    I'm new in this and I've been reading your post in these thread and thanks alot for sharing your experience.

    What is the proper way in creating the homepage of your blog?
    I mean, first we use a sticky post making it always on top. But do you need to post the whole content in the home page or just a portion of it by placing read more to continue?

    Thanks
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    • Thanks a lot for answering my question, Chucky! I appreciate your replies and I'm sure everyone else does, too.

      I remember that you said you put those links in the footer, but forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me!

      I also learned that you put many of your intra-site links in the footer as well. I never thought about that, but it makes sense.
  • Hey Chucky,

    You definitely have some great concepts and ideas in this post. I implemented your ideas a few weeks ago and have already hit page 1. I realize the google dance is in play and that I will be constantly jostling for position, but that's the IM game and probably will always be.

    Regardless, I wanted to say thank you! The information you provided is the foundation I needed to build on...

    Good luck with your sites and thanks again.

    Matt
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    • Yup that's what I do. Optimize 1 page per kw at the beginning.

      After the sites rank I would try to rank one page for multiple kw. For example, 56 inch LCD HDTV, best 56 inch LCD HDTV, 56 inch LCD TV, 56 inch LCD HDTV but I wouldn't try to optimize the same page for the phrase 46 inch LCD HDTV as well. In my experience, sites have to be relatively aged and mature to do this. But then again, I don't emphasize different kw on page. I build links with different anchor text. Got it?

      I think so Seb, I think that would be a good idea!

      Thanks man, you're very kind! But there's plenty out there that I have no clue about!

      You're welcome!

      Yes I do post the whole content (in Thesis, they call it a feature post). I usually set my homepage so that there are no teasers (just a portion of posts). I only have the one sticky post which is feature post.

      But it is important to give links to other posts in your site for bots to crawl through. That's why you should have in text links to inner pages and may be also some links on the sidebar (in appearance --> widgets, drag a 'Killer Recent Posts' to the sidebar widget) and some more in the footer as well.

      Look at all the links in the footer and sidebar of this site Wall Tapestries and Wall Decor Hangings from The Tapestry Standard

      Obviously it's not mine, but it belongs to a Stomper and it's a site they take as an example when teaching people. It also ranks high for phrases like european wall tapestries.

      Hope that helped, don't hesitate ask more if you have!
      Chucky
      Yup, links in the footer as well as sidebar. Look at this example Wall Tapestries and Wall Decor Hangings from The Tapestry Standard and this example Stylish Wedding Favors - Unique Wedding Favors at Affordable Prices

      I didn't check if they have external links that were no followed, but certainly have a lot of internal links that help the juice flow through and help SE bots find their way through.

      Thanks Matt!

      It's great to hear that you're making progress. Diversify your VRE assets, make 10 instead of 2, that way even if you are sandboxed or raped by Panda, the chances are at least a few will survive and continue to bring the cash! Thanks and all the best to you too!
      Chucky
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  • Wow! This is an amazing post. Thanks so much for the information and inspiration, you've given me a couple of concrete ideas to take action on. Again, thanks.
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  • Wooww.. It's great Chuck. I try to do that and can't wait for the result. Thanks..
  • Chucky, Congratulations on your success! ... And a big thumbs up for sharing in such in depth details with the community.

    I having been utilizing something similar to your strategy and have achieved brilliant results since. Anyway, you might have already shared this but I am only into page 5 and can't wait to ask you questions:

    When you are expanding/building sites beyond 5 pages/posts...

    1. For the rest of the posts what keywords do you focus on? More on Theme Keywords perhaps? And how does it affect your SERPs when you have settled at top positions?

    2. Have you tried to focus on more keywords?

    3. Have you tried to add in additional tougher secondary keywords?

    Thank you!
    Haruka
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    • Chucky, what do you do for the about us, privacy policy/disclaimer (are they the same things) pages?

      Do you hire someone to write these up?

      Thanks, and by the way, I like the examples. They really shed some light on what you were talking about.
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  • Hi Chucky, I've got another question.

    I'm reading along with your fist post as I'm setting up my Wordpress site. I'm going to try a 3 page site with this one instead of a 5 page and I won't be using any of the paid plug-ins, only the free ones, so this site won't strictly follow the rules you outlined (not saying they don't work, things just kind of "flowed" this way). However, I'll try to make each one closer to you specifications.

    Any way, I noticed you said this about interlinking pages Later, you said that you schedule your posts to go out over several days/weeks. So, my question is, how do you add links to posts that haven't been posted yet? Do you just wait until the articles are up and then edit the links in?

    Also, you said that you remove all of the "default links." What do you mean by this? When I go into my admin panel and go into the links category, I get these: Documentation
    Edit | Delete
    codex.wordpress.orgBlogroll
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    Thanks a lot for your help.
  • hmmm... lot of unanswered questions! Very uncharacteristic of Chuck... Hope you're OK Chcuky!
    I too would like to know what was different about the Pandalized website
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    Thanks for all the questions! Unfortunately I've been having a few family issues whole of last week and wasn't able to check the thread. It's not that I've abandoned it, will answer all of the questions Sunday night or Monday the latest central time.

    Thanks for understanding!
    Chucky
  • Chucky, just out of curiosity..do I need website with separate domain for separate niche everytime or will an umbrella website with exact matching sub-domains work as well?
    I'm asking this coz with with subdomains I can have exact matching keywords subdomains.
  • Thank you so much for answering all my questions, Chcky. I'm sorry to hear that things are not going great in your private life, but I'm sure things will get better.

    I know you put your "relevant site" links in the footer, do you do this for each post, or only the footer of certain posts?

    Also, do you put your intra-site links in the footer as well, or are these part of the post?

    Thanks for all of the help you give everyone!
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    • sorry for not being clear. i was just saying that i entered footer info in the thesis openhook section of WP and it seemed to have worked. i couldnt find the footer widget you were talking about.

      Thanks for the replies... will read them over and take your advice.

      any suggestion on writers/spinners?
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  • Hey Chucky,

    Firstly - thanks a lot for the great contribution. Salute to you.

    I'm not sure if this question has been asked before or not - BUT - I've a site stuck at 5th/6th spot and its mainly monetized with Adsense.

    I'm sure you know that we can't make any good money before we are in TOP 3 - So what are you suggestions to get the site in top 3? I've got a lot of sites in top 10 - thats easy.. whats hard to do is get it to 1st spot. So what type of link building/or any other strategies do you use to rank higher?

    Thanks a lot in advance,
    Cheers!
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    • Hello Chucky. I had to post again because to my surprise I found myself in the #1 position for one of my product keywords. Again, this is a surprise to me because I am so new to this and have such little computer background that it baffles me. This keyword shows about 250,000 results. I have primarily been building backlinks. I don't know how long it will last but I guess I will continue with what I have been doing. Your advise to take action has served me well because prior to viewing your posts I really wasn't doing anything proactive to see any results. Thanks again. Jimmy
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  • Very very usefull all this thread.You build a listing on some of your websites?i have one site with 4 5 posts,with last post linking to vendor website(affiliate market) are those 2 different kind of sites? the sniper sites small with few posts ("phrase" 20000 searches,usually i am in good position after 5 6 days ) and the "classic" website with a post added every 2 weeks etc etc list building etc etc,are they 2 different methods of market?im sorta of lost and dont know what way to follow
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    • Hi Roshan,

      In my experience, this depends on what you have already done so far and how strong your competition is. For example, if you have used the UAW network over and over, however much you use that network, your rankings will not rise anymore. Once you begin to see this apparent 'tolerance' to link building, I would switch from UAW (cancel membership) to something else (e.g. Article Ranks -poor article distribution lately-; James Schramko's Traffic Jumbo (haven't used yet) etc.) I don't know if you have used BMR (build my rank). This network works for me whether I use it on a fresh site or on a site stuck like yours (even Post Panda 2.2).

      Have you done press releases before? have you done software submissions before? If not, they will help you in this situation. Also, it is necessary to do it consistently. Don't just do a single round of press release submissions, do a few rounds one after the next once a week for a few weeks. Similarly, have you done video distributions before? What type of backlinks have you built and what have you not? If you've already done a ton of bookmarks, I'd rather spend my time and money building links using a different method - e.g. press releases, software directories, video submissions, PDF submissions, RSS submissions (yahoo pipes to combine yours and others) etc. etc. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say here.

      I would keep away from mass article distributions (unless you can control speed of distribution and have very high unique rate) and mass profile link campaigns. However, I would use those two to strengthen my existing and/or new backlinks.

      Another school of thought is that building backlinks at an increasing pace (increasing link velocity) is necessary to come out of a stuck position like that. I personally have not done that deliberately, it may have happened without intention though.

      A couple of pieces of useful posts about 1 week apart couldn't hurt either to coincide with the link building campaign.

      Another thing is blog commenting on high PR pages. I'm not talking about mass commenting. Just a couple by yourself (non-outsourced) on non-auto-approval blogs would be very powerful even if they were no follow. A lot of people don't do this, but try a few comments like that few days apart on authority domains/pages and you will be pleasantly surprised!

      Hope you keep us posted on the results you get!
      Chucky

      You're welcome!!

      You will get different search results if you're signed up to Google or not. Make sure you are signed out of Google (gmail etc.) when you're searching for your position. Scroogle is another good place to check your rankings. Rank checker from SEOBook is also good. You can put multiple related keywords (e.g. from Google adwords tool) in Rank Checker and it will give you the rankings for all those kw.

      If this was not the case, it should most likely be QDF (Quality deserves freshness). Fresh content is ranked better and then goes down and settles in its most suitable position.

      I don't personally approve trackbacks and I think that's the right thing to do. You just want to get links and not give out links!

      Will answer this one later, too sleepy, sorry!
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    Why use and related topics plugin? Aren't you dupplicating efforts and straining your server slowing down pages? This coupled with SEOprresor which I had to deactivate or deal with 10 - 20 second page load times. Its been my experience a low bounce rate and page speed ranks better than backlinks. ANy thoughts?
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    • Wow!! Head explode!
      Not often you run into give away high quality content by a successful yet humble person. Thanks for this.
      Although you don't need it in business I wish you great success in life Chucky.

      I just started out in IM and am in learning stages. Put all your posts from this thread in a word document (155 pages!!) and believe this will be the foundation for my learning process. I will take a long difficult to read thread from a real life person like you over a glossy ebook from some wannabe any day.
      When you think back on this exercise you should realize how much high quality knowledge and value you created in random peoples IM businesses. Hope you get some life karma kudos for this.

      And by the way I have already taken action. Registered my first domain yesterday. Nothing too complicated or ambitious but I will use this as my 1st learning tool.

      Thanks again
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    • Hi Chucky
      I'm in the process of registering a domain for an info product I want to promote.
      The KW is xxxxxdiet but of course xxxxxdiet and xxxxx-diet is taken for all the TLDs but they are parked and not part of the competition.
      Would you go for xxxxxdiets.org or xxxxxdietinfo.com? Whats your view on plural versions of a domains that doesn't get many searches compared to the singular? And generally do you rather do a hyphen domain than a plural version?

      And a 2nd question. I then have three 3-word 2RY keywords that I want to target. Would you create a new domain & site for each of these or target them under the top domain?
      The site will only be around 3-4 pages and then redirect to seller page who will do the actual selling with a solid page so I am thinking that it should be better to try and grab one domain for each KW or is that a bit overambitious? For the 2RY KWs I can get TLDs for all of them.

      Thanks again for this thread. I am on my 2nd reading of it at the moment...
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  • I just installed the plugins you recommended, however, in light of your and ShaLiam's posts, I think I will uninstall Search Terms Tagging 2.

    I have 2 more questions for you.

    First, does it affect your rankings if you add links to an article after it has been indexed?

    Also, you mentioned that you

    Does it affect the ranking of the pages when you add content to an already ranking page like "For a review go to my homepage."?

    Also, does adding a stick post affect the rankings?

    Thanks for clearing this up.
  • Hey chucky, thanks so much for all your tips. I just started an EMD site targeting a keyword that gets 4400 exact searches/month and the first page contains mostly authority sites that are not very well optimized for the keyword. It's been 3 days since I registered the domain and it's been indexed by Google but hasn't been ranked yet. I'm currently working on building backlinks by commenting on relevant blogs. Are there some other ways you would recommend for building links?

    Also, for someone using MNF for keyword research, what SOC level would you recommend for a newbie?
  • Do you have any price limitation when promoting amazon products ?
    as you know amazon commission is 7% , that's why i saw a lot of ppl recommending not to promote product lower than 100$
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  • First of all sorry for the late response. Deliberately kept away from WF as I was tied down with some other work.

    I receive like 5 PMs/day and sometimes if I couldn't log in for several days, I have like 20 PMs and I have no option but to delete them all. I'm afraid I cannot answer all PMs I get. I may have deleted yours too, if you bring it up on the thread of course I'll try to answer to the best of my knowledge. Hope you understand!

    I have never gotten any 404 errors as such, not sure about duplicate content though. I haven't seen any messages on Google WM tools though (about duplicate content).

    Page speed is something I've also started to work on recently. I use PageSpeed and FireBug firefox addons to guage speeds. My new sites typically have about 84-88 and a couple have about 93+ speeds (out of 100). I also use a few database optimizer, Java script compressor, CSS compressor kind of WP plugins to do that? Is that what you do as well? Would love to hear more about it?

    WOW 20% bounce rate? That's unheard of!

    Link trees in admin area? Never heard about them, would love to hear if you have the time!

    As for few high quality vs mass low quality backlinks, 100% agreed!

    Thanks for the share and would love to hear more if you have the time!
    Chucky

    Hope my reply is not too late, sorry about that!

    Since the hyphenated domains are gone, I would go for the plural instead of the dietinfo.com. I think it also depends on the term you're targeting. If the term is like 'south beach diet' and your domain is 'south beach diets' would it make sense?

    However, if there are other related search phrases that you can target by adding a suffix to the end, I would go for that. e.g. xxxxdietreviews (or diets review; diet-review/s). When I add a suffix, I always make sure that it has an SEO value, not just a random word. That way you will ultimately be able to target xxxx diet, xxx diet review/s as well as xxx diets.

    Even if you don't have the plural in your domain, you can target it by having the plural kw in your title and meta description (like Mark says below).

    Hope that helps! Also please read this post I made earlier (the answer I gave Haruka)

    Yup agreed! I too do that. However I wait till the site is a little 'mature' to target multiple kw. Sometimes it automatically happens, sometimes it doesn't. In this post I talk a few details. I've seen sites going down (in rankings) for the primary kw, if you build backlinks for a 2ry kw if the site is very new. I've seen this multiple times. But once the site is a little mature, it's a different story!

    What exactly do you mean by 'optimize the post for several keywords'? Just having the keyword in content or also emphasizing, having them in H tags, hyperlinks etc as well?

    I do all of above except emphasis (bold, italic, underline). I actually didn't realize I was 'optimizing' for those keywords. I use 2ry keywords in my content, H tags and anchor text (internal links) for LSI purposes. But I guess that helps a post to be 'optimized' for 2ry keywords as well

    If only I had the time.... sorry man!

    Nope! Never noticed rankings go down as such.

    Sticky post - I believe it has a positive effect compared to a dynamic blog type homepage. Especially for minisites like ours. For larger sites getting gazillions of backlinks telling the search engines that this page is about x, y and z (regardless of the content) it probably wouldn't matter (just my opinion- have never owned such a site, so I wouldn't know)

    I typically start backlinking with socialADR bookmarking. Then I too do high PR blog posts in the form of BMR (Build My Rank). When you're commenting on relevant blogs make sure those are not spammed ones; in my experience, the benefits are minimal if those pages have like 500 outgoing links. Just my experience. Articles, press releases (free ones) are also good. Be steady and consistent!!

    As for SOC, I think any newbie can do 100 and below. However, you shouldn't judge the level of competition only by the SOC. You should also look at the top 10 sites manually (as you have already done). I feel that SOC is kind of overrated. I'm currently on the 3rd page for a term with an SOC of 20,000 (within 1 month of launching the site)!!

    That's absolutely true. I didn't pay attention to this at the beginning at all. But now I do. The more expensive the better. The only thing with cheap products is, if you can sell a significant number of them, your commission will go up even for the high ticket items. Hope that makes sense!
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  • For minisite, less than 10 posts, should I use only optimized sticky post or put all articles on my homepage?
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    • Up until very recently, I only had 1 post on the homepage - 1 sticky post!

      But recently I've been experimenting with having 2-4 sticky posts on the homepage and that seems to work equally fine. I personally would not have all 10 posts on my homepage!
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    • Thank you guys! Those words really mean a lot to me!
      @ chrisen, great to here that this thread was able to get you started! Keep us posted!

      Hey! No I didn't share them ultimately! That's because they were not as complete as I would have liked them to be.. sorry! I should change that text.... if I can find the place

      Feel free to ask any question you may come across! (on the thread-not PM )
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  • Chucky I was thinking...I can use your keyword research and competition analysis strategies for the Adsense website as well.
    Let's say I found a keyword phrase with decent EXACT traffic (400-500).
    The EMD, let's say, is not available. Is it wise to create a domain like "EMDReviews(dot)com" and utilize this domain for the adsense by providing reviews for the product in concern (EMD)?
    Will this "EMDReviews" domain affect the SEO of the domain for the EMD keyword...i mean by adding extra "Reviews" in the domain name..will it affect the SEO quality of the domain?
  • Chucky one more thing..you've mentioned A LOT of time in the thread that picking the right market is THE MOST CRUCIAL STEP in the IM.
    How do we make sure that the market IS right.
    Will the adequate keyword research for the niche, low competition and decent traffic suggests that the market IS right or is there any other factor that plays more role in this??

    If I've chosen a niche with a product (amazon, cb or cj), for the chosen keyword I've domain name available, the traffic is also acceptable (300-500 exact/month), the competition is also moderate - Does all the above parameter suggests that the MARKET IS RIGHT??
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  • Chucky, which WP theme would you recommend for a site with amazon links/widgets. I like the one you used on your kids karaoke machines site, which theme was that?
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    • Hi Chucky. I saw where you posted on Proreview. What do you recommend for Amazon site building? Thanks Jimmy
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  • Chucky, would you recommend promoting products less than $500 since people are very unlikely to buy really expensive products online, even though they would generate higher commissions? Also, what's the average conversion rate for amazon affiliate links?
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    • Just to chime in here, never was a big amazon guy until a client ask I build her a review blog, she focuses on her niche and writes a lot of book reviews. Those reviews for $4.50 to $34.99 books get her great commissions on higher end products because of amazons referral cookie. we have commissions for microwaves, barbaque, software, and other higher end stuff so focus on what you know and love when promoting amazon, the big ticket stuff will come.
  • Hye chucky,

    I am really excited about all you have written on here.. as many have already said through this post.. you really deserve everything good in your life.. this a great inspiring story that surely motivate us all to get a success like you are getting.. if anyone asks for motivation.. I get them to read on this thread..(-: .. thanks a lot for your info.. I wish you the very best..

    Cheers to all..
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    • hmm... I wouldn't say so. Depends on what you target. If you try to target a person who is looking for a $100 product and you try to sell him/her a $500 product, it won't work. But there are plenty of people searching for products that are $500 and above. Do you think people search for things like 6 Carat Diamond Ring - Rings - Compare Prices, Reviews and Buy at Nextag - Price - Review How many searches do they get? May be not 1000s, but would you rather sell 20 items at $10 commission/piece or 5 items at $50/piece? In my opinion, the higher the price the better, provided that there is a sufficient search volume!

      Conversion rate? Never checked! Will see if I can check it and let you know soon!

      Thanks very much! Those words mean a lot to me! Wish you also the very best with your IM business!
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    • Hey Chucky,

      Sorry if I missed your post about this, but I was wondering if your site that disappeared ever came back? I had something similar happen to one of my sites. It was gone for about a month (page 55+ for all keywords) and then came back a few spots higher. It was probably just dancing, but it coincided with a number of others talking about their sites dropping or disappearing on June 6th-7th.
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    • Thanks James, those words mean a lot to me!

      Hey,

      I kept calling it one of my best sites but when I went inside and looked at all 40 + posts, I realized that the first 20+ posts were really crappy. That's because I didn't know what I was doing 3-4 years ago. The content that I added during the last 1-1.5 years was good and I didn't remember what I did before that. SO I basically deleted, merged, redirected, rewrote etc. etc. many posts and brought it down to 27 posts. Now it ranks for some low search volume long tail keywords with no monetary value as high as #1. However, doesn't rank for the high traffic keywords it used to. I haven't done any link building either. Just waiting out a little bit and will start building links again. This one actually disappeared on the June 6th-7th, when yours came back! (Panda 2.2) I also had a couple of Ezine/Articlebase articles disappearing with 1st Panda. But they were not big earners and I didn't even bother to try and resurrect those. But this site was my baby and I won't give up on it

      Here is the YouTube channel &#x202a;IMandSEO's Channel&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

      However please note that some of the videos there are 'not right'. There was something wrong with them and I redid the videos but never removed the older ones and now I don't remember which ones are bad and which ones are good. I see there are 10 videos there, but only 7 are probably meant to be 'good'. Hope you will be able to filter out the bad ones
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  • Chucky, which tools would you recommend for creating backlinks?
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  • On Backlinks anchor text not sure if this long thread spent too much time on it but I did see it mentioned somewhere

    a lot of people on some forums are reporting that Panda(google/whatever) does not like too many anchor text backlinks coming in with exact match kws or even combinations of kws in the anchor text

    example
    Big scissors is the kw

    backlink anchor text is
    big scissors
    big scissors site
    buy big scissors
    big scissors review
    etc etc

    that apparently used to be fine and look natural to Google however lots of people have reported (on other backlinking forums ) that they have dropped a lot by panda and went in and started doing backlinks such as

    clickhere
    www.mysite.com
    HERE IS THE SITE

    etc etc
    random text that someone linking to your site might use if they have no intention or knowledge of your keyword backlinking methods

    The ones that have done this SOME have reported excellent results and much higher serps

    apparently Google now frowns on too much kw anchor text. What that percentage is I dont know but its much more strict than it used to be and yes they will downgrade you for it

    now whether you should go in and change the anchor text to old backlinks that I dont know
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    • Hi Chucky. What, if any recommendations do you have for backlinking? Specifically are there any tools that would benefit me in finding high pr backlinks and posting them/ I also saw where a WF member selling 10 pr-7 edu backlinks. Could you give your opinion on the benefit of something like this. Thanks so much for your time.
  • Chucky,

    I have no problem making profitable websites but I am having a hard time ranking them even on the first page to make any profits.... =( any advice or tips to get some effective links?
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  • Hi Chucky,

    Recently I checked out Elite Niche Research (which incidently you mentioned in your thread..have u checked it btw as you'd mentioned in ur thread that you will?).

    The basic principle behind ENR is to promote products that are searched by their NAME (means they're already sought out for). This leads to choosing a keyword that contains the product name.

    Now as per your method the website URL need to be EXACT same as the theme keyword.
    My question is : WON'T IT INVITE LEGAL ACTION against the webmaster if he/she chooses website URL based on the product name.
    IF NOT then how do one follow the ENR method?
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    • Oh I see, my bad! So it disappeared for both of us on the same day!

      I've also been thinking about submitting that reconsideration request, should work on that this weekend. Thanks for bringing that up! Well lets hope the hammer won't drop in again EVER!! Think positive

      So many tools depending on what kind of links.

      Right now I'm using SENUE X for web 2.0 blogs, bookmarks and RSS. Pad Submitter for software submissions and AMR for article submissions. Those are the only tools I'm using right now I think. Ah almost forgot, Scrapebox for many functions like checking links, scraping PR, building 2nd/3rd tier backlinks etc. etc.

      I do however use different services for press releases, blog commenting, blog networks (BMR), Social ADR for bookmarking etc. Even

      Yup, I've also read that but I haven't done any experiments to prove/disprove that. I don't use a lot of anchor text variation other than the theme kw, and primary keywords. I do use the domain name though (mysite.com). I try not to use Click here at all. In fact I used to build links with 90% + using my main theme kw and only 5-10% were 2ry keywords. Now I've slightly changed that and don't see a particular positive or negative effect.

      But a recent WSO that I bought said the complete opposite thing. http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...1-39-days.html

      I can't go into details but you will see that the guy doesn't vary his on page or off page seo at all. Looks very 'unnatural' but it has worked for him. The particular site is still number 1 as I write this.

      $Jimmy and MaineCoon,
      After Panda, I've stopped using profile links and mass blog commenting as tier 1 links. I'm finding that BMR is even better than it used to be. The other powerful free thing that nobody does is making valuable comments on nofollow blogs with your name as your anchor text. Do just 1/day and see the effects you get! As I said earlier, have you covered all the different types of diverse links? Videos? Software submissions? Press releases? PDF submissions?

      Getting backlinks of the same type and from the same IP addresses won't work e.g. multiple posts on the same blog, same web 2.0 properties from SENUKE over and over

      Have you built links to your 1st tier links? Or done something to get them indexed? Made RSS feeds of them and submitted to RSS directories? Made RSS mashups with content from other sources?

      I'm sure I covered a lot of things people regularly miss

      Nice to see you back MaineCoon,

      Tell me about it! Ya I haven't untangled it completely either. I brought the 40 posts down to something like 27 I think, but there is still a lot of room for improvement. After I do all that (may be this weekend), I'm going to submit it for reconsideration. What have I got to lose?

      I've been seeing some improved rankings for some random phrases, may be it was after I cleaned it up a bit. Not sure because I didn't check rankings regularly! Could also be that Panda 2.3 gave it a bit of a boost.
      Thanks for sharing that. I've never used more than 4 links to my pages (in the footer); however I've seen many sites with tons of footer links (internal and external). The example that I've referred to many times Wall Tapestries and Wall Decor Hangings from The Tapestry Standard is a great example.

      Yup I did go through the bulk of the videos (with Fast Forward )

      Not really! I wouldn't say they ask you to use the product name ALWAYS. The main take home massage I took from there was DISREGARD traffic volume. A search phrase with HIGH COMMERCIAL INTENT is GREAT even if you get a trickle of traffic. And a search phrase with high commercial intent is not always one with the product name.

      I have product name domains. Once I registered domain names with LEGO, John Deere and Barbie (yeah, I know what was I thinking?). I got a letter from lawyers of LEGO asking me to handover the domain which I did. I had not made the John Deere website by then and let it expire. I still have the barbie site and it must have made $2000+ over the last 2-3 years. If I get a letter from a lawyer, I will happily give it up.

      Here's a small tip: if you see many other affiliates using a product name in their domain name, that company is probably lenient (check Barbie) and you may get away with using that name in your domain name (at least until they change policies ). But if you don't see it (check LEGO and JOHN DEERE) you're probably better off not using them.

      These are just physical products that I covered. I also use click back product names in my domains. But I don't use the EMD, I use EMDsuffix. Check this one out tinnitus miracle - Google Search

      I'm not in there, but you see a lot of affiliates there right? And yes these guys probably don't get as much traffic as for 'treatment of tinnitus' but they would surely get a better conversion rate (principle of ENR).

      For those who haven't bought ENR, there is a lot more to it than I've given here. They talk about a lot of techniques to find these golden keywords. Andrew Hanssen in fact came up with another product recently, if I had the time to look at it, I would have bought that too.

      Nope I didn't say I use EMD always! And EMD is not only for product name keywords!
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  • NOTE: I have since read back through what you wrote about optimising for a single keyword, and how people like Terry Kyle advocate that, so I know roughly how you stand on this, this is just another take.

    Chucky, we were talking last week about optimising for both plural and singular forms etc. In the meantime I landed myself up in hospital after a mountain-biking accident (d'oh!) so couldn't reply.

    But in brief, you are probably familiar with the idea of optimising a page for multiple keywords, which gives you a better shot at ranking for SOMETHING, better backlink diversity and possibly better on-page SEO due to the LSI principle.

    So I have a site: onlinecomputercourse.info (not the real name, but similar - .info too - pop that in your pipe and smoke it )

    So I optimised the home page for basically several high-volume, very similar search terms:

    online computer course
    online computer courses
    on line computer courses


    Plus a couple of longer-tail related ones:

    take computer course online
    take computing courses online


    and a couple of really long-tail ones like:

    where can I learn computing online

    Or whatever.

    I have singular in the domain name, but plural in the title tag, and then a mix throughout the page.

    Then my backlinking strategy involves using ALL of these for anchor text, which is really easy using AMR, and other blog networks, where you can just spin the text.

    This is getting me good results, I feel, in terms of stable rankings, but specifically it illustrates what I was saying about not sweating TOO much about the EMD, and whether it's plural or not. You can rank both, and probably SHOULD. Hey, we used to rank sites WITHOUT an EMD once upon a time...

    P.S. Lately I have been starting new sites by literally taking the first 10 or so closely related keywords (in descending order of search volume) as my starting point, and NOT focusing exclusively on the main EMD keyword.

    So I would get:

    red widgets
    best red widgets
    buy red widgets

    But not, for example, blue widgets, probably.

    But, you say, aren't you going to create separate pages for "best red widgets"? Well, yes, eventually, but first off I just want to see what phrases I am starting to rank for out of the gate. It will be easy to outrank my own home page for that phrase later, with a decent article on a subpage. Will see how I get on with that, but first results are very promising, especially for lower competition/longer-tail keywords.
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    • Hi Chucky

      Very good work what you are doing with this thread man. I just want to add my voice to all of those that already thanked you for this, and again state that this thread gives more and better information than 90% of the products and WSOs I bought in the last 2 years.

      I've been watching the IM scenario from a long time ago, you can see I'm a member of this forum since 2008, and I've been reading some free reports and participating in some learning and coaching programs since 2005.

      But I never did anything systematic, so of course I never made any money, because consistency, persistence and time are 3 fundamental ingredients to have any kind of success in internet marketing.

      Last year I finally decided to take some action and I started building some Amazon review sites and I started learning SEO. And I can tell you after the last 8 months I consider myself not a newbie regarding SEO.

      In fact, last Christmas, I was able to rank a site in the first position in Google for a keyword with 102,000,000 competitors. That's true, this is not to brag, just to tell you that I know my way in SEO. Not a PRO yet but I have good knowledge.

      Also I have some other sites in position 2 and 3 and 4 in Google, I have sites ranking in first page for more than 1 keyword (3 keywords in fact...).

      I'm telling this because I want to say that, given the experience I have in SEO, the information you give here for free is by far much better than the information in a lot of courses, reports and coaching programs I paid for.

      So, NEWBIES, listen to Chucky and read his stuff carefully and put in action what he tells you. That's my advice from the heart.

      Now a few words of caution.

      I want to emphasize that keyword research is CRITICAL. I have some sites with very high rank in Google and after months of work to get those sites in the top of SERPs, I have visitors but no sales! Numbers are important during keyword research, like # of local searches and # of competitors and # of backlinks for the main competitors, but also look AROUND. See if people buy the product, investigate what type of sites are selling the same or similar products, try to grasp the "feeling" that the product is going to sell online. Ending with a site in position #1 and have hundreds of freebie seekers or information seekers visiting your site every day it's just not motivating.

      Pay attention to what you are selling and how you present the product to your visitors. The monetizing strategy and the selling approach play a BIG role in conversions. My #1 site last Christmas was a SEO success and a sales disaster. The routine for the weeks before Christmas was: checking #1 or #2 position in Google and see 0 orders in Amazon. Damn frustrating! See what other people are doing to sell. Learn with merchant sites. Try to find supper affiliates sites and see how do they present the offers to visitors.

      Finally, one of the best things to do is to anticipate trends or best sellers. But try to anticipate what kind of sites will compete with you when the trend converts. I have a site that was ranking quite nice for a new product in electronics. Of course when I started the SEO for this site the competition was a joke because I started as soon as the product was released to the market. 4 months later, all the big merchants and specialized review sites are competing with me. And you see suddenly that sites with 10, 12 and 15 years old released pages fully optimized for your keyword and those pages have, in a matter of 2-3 months, 35,000 or more backlinks! Of course my site went to the "hyperspace" and I never saw it again.

      So, to finish this already long comment, SEO is VERY important but common sense and observation also play a big role in Internet Marketing.

      Again, congratulations and thank you for this wonderful thread, Chucky. All the best.

      Cheers

      Jorge
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  • Thanks for sharing your info about your earnings Chucky. It was like reading an eBook on how you made it.
    This thread will surely provide information for those who are still in the process of learning and hanging around the IM world (including myself).
    Thanks a lot man, and always keep a positive outlook in life.
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  • Chucky, do you make most of your income from amazon, commission junction, CPA, or something else? Also, do you prefer using MNF or Market Samurai for kw research? Which one is more accurate?
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    • Hey,
      Yes I know Terry Kyle said that; but that was last year or even before that and as we know Google evolves. I'm not as strict as I used to be. Now I am even commenting on high PR high trust blogs with a completely unrelated anchor text (e.g. Nancy, Tom, Kevin etc.) and seeing very good results. I guess if you have 500 anchor text links saying my site is about 'online computer courses', it wouldn't harm to have a dozen Nancy, Tom or Kevin anchor texts!

      I completely agree on optimizing a single page (homepage or inner page) for multiple keywords. But I don't go overboard with it. For example, I won't have all those keywords bolded, italicized, underlined, hyperlinked and in H tags all at once. To me, that doesn't look nice. If you're writing naturally, you're bound to have those related keywords (e.g. online computer course, online computer courses, on line computer courses) in your text. I will HAVE them, but I don't necessarily OPTIMIZE the page for multiple keywords!

      Yup, agree on the LTKW, they start to rank really quickly!

      No! I outsource them to Odesk @ 50 cents/post! I would go to EzineArticles, find a bunch of articles in my niche, copy down titles and 150 word blurbs, paste on a word doc and send them to these girls to be rewritten. And yeah, I do post them to BMR, but you have the option of getting your outsourcers to post them there as well.

      Thanks a bunch for those words man, they really mean a lot to me.

      As for that #1 site, been there done that mistake! That's why I stress the importance of picking the right niche so much.

      As for the 'new product' and then getting outranked by big guys - the exact scenario hasn't happened to me, but something similar has. I was ranking #1 for a seasonal term (gardening related product) throughout winter of 2010 and was pretty confident. Spring comes and suddenly I get beaten by a double listing of consumersearch.com and sears.com and have to spend another month to get back my place and by the time, the peak sales season has already passed

      I guess you won't learn unless you actually do it and experience it right?

      Thanks again Jorge!

      Thanks man! I guess I'm a good copywriter! Care to hire me to write your sales pages?
      On a regular month, its CJ!
      Haven't used MS enough to give an accurate comparison!
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  • Chacky,
    I have one forgotten website with almost zero traffic which is several years old. I just re-designed it using some of your helpful info.
    It has database with several thousands of affiliate products in addition to my own unique articles (~15-20 articles). Products are featured inside articles and on separate pages. Links to the merchant website are done through PHP redirect script which I did myself (as the whole website with MySql Db and PHP).
    I just noticed that Google has indexed almost 16 thousands my redirection pages with all description coming from the merchant product pages although they all show my domain like this: mydomain.com/redirect_page.php?pr=12345
    If you click on them you do not see my site because PHP redirects you right to the product pages on the merchant's website.
    I think that this is not a good thing because visitors don't see my website and google may think that I have copied merchant's content from their product pages.
    DO you think that I need to tell google not to index my redirect page at all in my robots.txt file?... but I have some commissions from the visitors that click on these links...
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    • Hi Chunky,

      Thanks for sharing, I learned a lot from your thread here and had some inspiration that this is possible.

      I have a problem recently, spent $383.58 on facebook ads, and another $700 on Adwords on previous attempts on other products, and did not get a single sale.

      I asked around recently, and got feedback that my recent $297 health product test is too expensive for Facebook audience and Facebook is not exactly a good place to advertise landing pages, since the audience is probably goofing around not looking for a solution.

      My objective is to test if a product has the commercial intent first, as you said, before devoting time to creating all the content to sell it.

      Have you managed to test drive a Clickbank product on Adwords?

      Do you straightaway bring your Adwords audience to a selling page, or do you bring them to your info site to readup?

      Further to my previous question...if you use your Adwords to bring your audience to your site to read up (that means creating all the content first), how will you effectively determine if your product already has the commercial intent?

      I have blown quite an amount of $$$...will be great if you can give some advice...
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    Gotta say it all looks like a good plan... EXCEPT Day 7. I've been doing this a while now and in the end, when trying to build an authority site... everyone could do themselves a huge favor and stay away from most on page SEO.

    Often kills authority... and always kills sales.

    In the end if it doesn't convert, page rank means nothing.
  • Chucky, I have a few questions for you:

    a) how long does it usually take to get an application approved on CJ? Should you establish your site a little before applying?

    b) how long does it usually take for one of your sites to show up in the rankings?

    c) when looking for CJ or CB products to promote, do you do the keyword research first or find which product to promote first?

    d) do you recommend using product names as domains?

    e) Suppose my keyword is "best turquoise widgets". If the sites on the first page are home pages of authority sites about just widgets with no on-page optimization for "best turquoise widgets", would that be beatable?

    f) Do you mean 2000 links to the domain or to the actual webpage that's ranking?


    Sorry about all the questions, hope i'm not annoying you.

    Congrats Mainecoon! May I ask, how do you look for CB products to promote and keywords to research? Are you using product name keywords?
  • ugh almost every CB product name EMD is already taken by the site selling the product itself... I think I'll switch back to amazon... the example you mentioned gave me some ideas.
    By the way Chucky, I was wondering -- how many amazon sites did you have up during black friday of last year to earn you $2500?
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    • I had altogether like 10 money making sites during those 2 months, but the bulk of the sales were from 2 sites: Proves the validity of the 80:20 rule!
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    • same for me too as newbie. I have never come accross such a valuable thread like this. It'a wonderfull that there are some good people who are willing to help to this level.
      Thank you gentleman.
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    • oh my god, I kept taking notes of all his valuable info, and wait a minute he took all this time to teach us all he knows about it and some one would come and complain that the free info was too long to read? that is unfair man ok Chucky you better sell it to them(that is the only way some will appreciate it(lol)
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  • Hi Chucky, I've almost got my first site done, but was wondering. With the following plugins, do you customize the settings at all, or do you just use the defaults?

    Thank you very much!
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  • Chucky, do you us Google Anlytics at all? Do you recommend using it?

    Thanks a lot.
  • Chucky, what backlinking tools would you recommend for newbies who can't really afford stuff like SEnukeX, etc?
  • hello Chucky

    thank for sharing this awsome information.subpage of my site is currently rank on #10 on yahoo and #16 on google.

    i needed some help from you can you please give me your skype id
  • Very helpful post its a big deal to learn simply SEO.
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    • Thanks for the inspiring post Chucky. I was lucky and my very first website has been pretty succesfully (I created my own product from a hobby and sell it on clickbank). It's given me a decent amount of money to play with so now I can invest it into experimenting with Amazon sites following your guide. I think having some success at the beginning of ones internet marketing career is very important for motivating you down the road when the failures do come. Thanks again.
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  • Hi Chucky
    Could you tell what is avg conversion rate for your sites ?
    And how you could increase it if you found it very low ?
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  • Wow Chucky! I'm a new Warrior Forum user and I find your awesome post! Thank you very much for the valuable information! Hope you get plenty of good karma for it.
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    • That's pretty funny, very similar to my situation. My product is in the electric vehicle niche (sales always increase with gas prices). I also went crazing posting adds on craigslist in the beginning to get traffic. When I was at work I would quietly move from terminal to terminal changing my ip address and setting up as many new craigslist accounts as I could. Then posting adds in all major cities in the US. Made a few sales before my accounts were banned and I realized that was not the best way to get traffic. I didn't do any back linking, it all came naturally as people found my site and linked to it. Probably why it did so well.
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  • Wow! Great! I'm bookmarking this thread.
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  • Chucky, can you give more details about the site you showed the traffic stats for on one of your videos, the one that made a lot from amazon during november/december? Was the keyword a product name keyword? Did most of your revenues come from promoting the product on the site or other products that visitors bought from amazon? How much was the product you were promoting on the site selling for?
  • Dear Chucky,

    Can you put it all together (in a video so one can see HOW to do rather than WHAT to do) so that an absolute newbie can follow you step by step?
  • Great stats, i hope i get that one day. I've been trying my balls out.
  • Very good information. I am new at this and I was looking at ClickBank only. After reading your post, believe that I should expand to multiple sources (CPA, Clickbank, Amazon, etc). This would expand income.
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    • It was about a $150 product. The majority of sales were from other products that happen to be in their shopping cart!

      And how much would you pay me for my time?

      Absolutely!
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  • Hey Chucky, sorry to get back so late. I wanted to thank you for answering all of my questions. I appreciated it.

    I also wondered, how essential is it to have every plug-in optimized perfectly? There are quite a few options with these plugins (I'm using the free ones for now) and I'm wondering if it will drastically affect my ability to rank if I don't get them all set just right?

    But then I wonder if I'm just over-thinking everything and should just set it however, throw the site up, and move on to the next?

    Thanks for your input.
  • I started a site recently that's ranked #7 for the primary kw and I haven't done any backlinking. This is what I did for the on-page seo:

    - kw in meta tags, title tag
    - EMD
    - kw in <h1> and <h2>, related kw in <h3>
    - kw mentioned 3 times in post (which is about 550 words)
    - 5-7 LSI keywords (which I got from google keyword tool) mentioned throughout the post
    - Used my main keyword 3 times in the post (which is about 550 words)
    - internal links contain anchor text related to the primary keyword of the page
    - 2 images w/ keyword in the alt tags
    - included a youtube video

    I have about 3 posts so far. Would adding more help rankings?

    What else can I do to maximize on-page seo?

    Also, what type of banners/product image links do you use to promote amazon products? I'm just using a banner at the top and a few text links in the main article. Will this suffice?
  • Hi Chucky! I'm a lurker I guess you could say - here at the Warrior Forums. I'm new'ish to IM but not the internet, website or Word Press building or even SEO (I've worked with an SEO Firm in the past). They taught me much of what you have suggested to everyone here. YEARS ago on another site of mine - many of the same genuine SEO methods were used and still hold true today that you have found work and are teaching everyone here in your post. If you do it by the books opposed to cheating the system - many times you will find you do not need to make much change later on). Finding IM I am seeing all the skills I already posses and put together with your insight could really do great things for me! I wanted to thank you directly here for the motivation it has provided me with - happily I know what my weekend will entail! TAKING ACTION with the skills I already posses - which I am so thankful for b/c I know so many from reading this thread are entirely new and will encounter many hours learning what I already know


    rambling I know - but basically I have spent 2 days devouring your information and can't wait to run with this! Thank you so much for all the time you have given us all!
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  • very nice threads, i'll follow your suggestion.
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    • Chucky, this is an extremely informative thread, and I hope you continue to add on to it in the future. I've switched up my SEO strategies a bit to coincide with the info you've provided.

      I just wanted to say thanks for putting in all the time, effort, and compassion for those who haven't yet made it to your level of success. There are a lot of us out there who value a thread like this. Especially when someone really shows that they genuinely want to help others.

      Thank you!
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  • Wow ... wow ... wow !
    I have just tripped over this thread and I gotta admit my head is spinning with all the valuable insights included.
    I now have to set a time to review thoroughly.
    Thanks, Chucky !
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  • Great and FREE info you put on here. This is an amazing tutorial for newbies.
    I never thought of the the 5 same keyword site concept. So what you do is get 5 related keywords. 1 will be the main keyword and the other 4 are the secondary keywords. Will all the 5 websites have the main keyword in their URL?please explain. Also do you choose to be 1 main keyword the same for all the sites? The main page will that be a static page with a full article displayed with main keyword or all posts displayed in excerpts? I want to try this out.. When you let someone make the rewrite do they rewrite each sentence?Does it get through copyscape, does it look original?
    thank you
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    • Well I still have SET2 on all of my sites. Most have the link still functional and on others I've just disabled the active link.

      Yes 80/20 rule... everybody talks about it... has to be true from my experience as well (may even be 95/5 rule in my case!).

      Actually, I've been going for more like 8-10 posts post-Panda.

      I probably have like 30-40 sites up, I don't know for sure. What I do know is that only a handful of them make me money on a daily basis Lost one of my biggest earners with Panda 2.2

      Hey, thanks!

      hmmm... not exactly "5 same keyword" more like "5 same niche"

      No not the same keyword unless I want to dominate the whole first page (which I've never attempted).

      The primary keywords are essentially different. Hmmm let's think of a niche that I'm NOT in. OK got one... get your ex back... I'll give 3 theme kw that I might think of targeting (provided kw search volume/competition are favorable). "How to get your ex back", "Get Ex Wife Back", "Get Ex Girl Friend back". They are similar but not as similar as "how to get your ex back", "Get your ex back", "Get my ex back" See what I mean? I would typically try to target phrases as similar as the latter set with 2ry kw on the same site.

      Yes... kind of static with a sticky post. No excerpts. But post-Panda, everybody's saying to use multiple posts on the front page to make it bigger... 2-3 sticky posts!

      Because my rewriters have been writing for me for a long time, I don't check with CopyScape. What I know is that all pages/posts get indexed by Google. I don't want them to be sentence by sentence rewrites, I'd rather have them take the idea and rewrite the idea. That way the number of paragraphs, sentences, words would be different and would look more unique in the eyes of Google (that's my unproven theory of course)!

      Hope that helps!
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  • OK. It's been a while and as I sit here at 4am I thought it's time to give a little back.

    So for those of us who prefer free plug-ins and tools I'll list a few I've found useful. No idea if most of you will laugh me out of WF for this, or if I look totally newb, but hey these work for me...

    All in One SEO Pack - Great for page titles, descriptions and keywords

    Blogger High SEO - From what I hear it's like SEOpressor, but free. (their other stuff is pretty good too)

    FanPage Connect Free - Pretty decent FB page maker for WP

    PPinger - Let your viewers do the pingin'


    Anybody care to add to the list?
    How about some free plug-ins to handle my PingFM, OnlyWire and PixelPipe? That would be nice...

    Again, again, again. Huge thanks for everything you've given us so far Chucky
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    • Hey! Thanks! I have not heard of the last 3 plugins! Sounds great!

      BTW, for SEO, now I'm using Yoast WordPress SEO plugin - Setting up is a little (actually a LOT) complex, but amazing! I don't use SEOpressor or any alternatives anymore, on my new sites that is. I hear there's also one called Stallion SEO plugin - its developer claims it to be better than Yoast plugin, but never tried, so I wouldn't know!

      Looks like you're taking action and that's great to hear!
      Chucky
  • Hey Chucky !
    Great content here and nice tips also that i haven't heard anywhere.

    Im still waiting for you to countinue this thread with

    10 - How i do it now
    11 - How i did it when i got started
    11 - Here;s a plan

    Best Regards
    Flori
  • This thread worth more than lots of paid WSOs that I’ve bought so far.
    Thanks for taking the time to share this.
  • Update on my rankings:
    Started 3 sites total targeting november/december keywords.
    - Site 1 is ranked #6 for its kw which gets 1000 searches/month
    - Site 2 is ranked #7 for its kw which gets 210 searches/month
    - Site 3 is ranked #6 for its kw which gets 720 searches/month
    There haven't been a lot of visitors to my sites yet b/c 95% of the searches come during november/december, which is good.
  • Wow... a quite long tutorial... great great!
    I'm excited to read the whole of this. Thanks Chucky!
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    • Great info ,

      thanks Chucky,

      i have a question about backlinking,


      each pyramid is only one link to the money site, now you said that you rarely build more than 2 of the linkmagnet type in the photo you pointed to and are dominating niches this way, my question is how can 2 high PR links be enough to beat a competitor with up to 300 links, one would assume that at least some of the competitors links are of qood PR quality and that some may be pointing to their page or is it the fact that the competitor has not optimised his page that leads you to believe that they would not of carried out any off site seo.


      niiche
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  • So, all the earnings was mostly from like Amazon? And ClibkBank?
  • Thanks a bunch for the amazing amount of info,gonna take a wile to digest!
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  • Thank you so much for sharing. I get new knowledge now.
    maybe I'll try it, hope it can work
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  • You have stated it all.... Any newbie just landing here for the first time, read this thread and put it into action will think this whole thing is a lot easier. Well, its a piece of cake.

    John
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    • Putting it into action is the key.... No action = no moolah.
    • True that. I just got into it after reading Chucky's thread; I made my first affiliate sale last weekend. Working on pushing 5 seperate affiliate sites up to page one right now.

      I've got the action; I'm sure I'll see results
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  • Chucky, you said that you aren't really do much IM right now? I take it that you aren't updating your sites with articles to much then.

    How are their serps; have they fallen, risen, stayed the same?

    Do the sites still generate an income for you? Is it less than when you were more attentive to the sites?

    Thanks for all of your efforts.
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    • That site ranked #1-5 for multiple product name keywords. e.g. Not just "Gifts for her" but "specific gift name best deals" kind of phrase and also "specific gift name black friday deals". I think I already mentioned that on the very first post.

      Both! Just product names and product name + black friday deals.

      I lost several pages (2-3 if I remember right) targeting this kind of phrases days before Black Friday to authority sites!

      Yup Tier 1 are usually authority sites - better article directories, web 2.0, your own network etc.
      Tier 2 are crappy ones - e.g. profile links, blog comment spam, Xrumer blasts etc.

      That is AWESOME! Congratulations! Rinse and Repeat! Great news!

      I honestly don't know a specific tactic per se. Because your sniper site (now I do more than 5 pages post Panda) is more focused than the authority site, you still hold the edge. I don't do anything more than just pray Most held their rankings, others didn't. I was also afraid to increase backlinks because I was afraid that would get them to dance/sandbox. So I didn't do any excessive backlinking. But I did add content on a regular basis.

      I remember, the year before (2009 BF) I only had a couple of sites targeting BF products and my best site which was about #4-5 the whole year suddenly disappeared in October/November. I had no idea what to do. Fortunately I was a StomperNet member at that time and they advised me to add fresh content and backlinks and it brought back the site but if I remember right it was dancing around on the most important days! I think I made something like $2K-3K/month in Nov and Dec that year from Amazon.

      I was hoping nobody would ask that question

      Yes I have lost several #1s in case of Amazon sites. They don't make any money during the off-season anyway, so I neglected them. I see a lot of #2s and 3s of sites that ranked #1 this time last year.

      Amazon has so far made me about double the money this year compared to last year (pre-BF that is) because one of my bigger sites ranked for multiple keywords. This was a Spring/Summer kw and those are dying fast now!

      But my CB and CJ sites, which are my main bread winners on a regular month, hold their positions. You probably know that I lost one of my main CJ sites that brought in 2-3K/month to Panda 2.2. But other than that others are doing alright. No I haven't added content to them in a long time, but my outsources build backlinks!

      The other day I unsubscribed from a bunch of monthly subscriptions (e.g. SENUKE) because I simply have to make that difficult decision to sort out my priorities. And my priorities are not IM the rest of the year. I think I must have spent a good 100+ hours on this thread as well. Can't afford to spend those hours without $$ anymore! I'll probably 'lock' this thread soon. I don't like it when others ignore my questions, probably others wouldn't appreciate when I ignore theirs! Right now, I try not to check this thread more than once every 3-4 days! The less I bump it, the less questions I get
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  • Hi Chucky,

    I know I've been in internet marketing for some months and I wanna try some affiliates like amazon, clickbank etc..

    and I know when reading this post I have to follow your steps! thx for sharing here
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    Important characteristics of a successful SEO specialist
    Congratulations.
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    • Hi Chuck, thanks for the great informational post about seo.

      Could you tell me if you use a static page on your homepage about the main keyword with full post or just different posts with excerpts?

      Another question regarding setting up 5 sites with 5 different keywords.
      So i need to have one primary keyword that will be the main keyword right?The main keyword if possible as an EMD.
      And beside that i will need 4 other keywords. So for each site i will have different main keyword? please explain
      thanks
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    ever recover its ranking?
  • What a great information! Your write up is definitely worth reading for. I've learned so much from it and also I would like to congratulate for your IM success.
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  • Hi Chucky,

    Thanks for your post. This is really helpful. I am still a newbie in IM, so i'm going to follow your guideline here.

    Still reading page 1
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  • chucky, great post.. I see this one is still going strong
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    • Hey what a great service you have in your sig there!

      That comes to 60 cents/post right? I think I'm going to PM you right away!
  • Hi Chucky,

    It's a great, great thread and I can't thank you enough for the great things that you do here. I am still going throught the thread as I want to read it all and then maybe ask you some questions, if you dfon't mind. I also have a few comments on what I've read already, but I will hold on to them until I've read the whole story

    Please continue to share as we all benefit it from it greatly!

    Talk soon
  • Hey Chucky
    I really want to learn advanced seo strategies such as tier 1 and tier 2 backlinks and what sites to use in each one (web2.0 or article directories or bookmarks ) and what software to use in each one , can you say it here or you coverd that in your WSO ?
  • hey Chucky, I followed your method here and my website for the secondary keyword is already rank on page 2 while for main keyword is at page 4 after 2 weeks!

    I think the Onpage factors played a huge role here, and I'm aiming first page within this month!
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    • Thanks buddy! Bring on those questions!

      No I don't cover that in the WSO, but I gave you an answer there on the WSO thread. You should be able to find that info here also!

      Great news! Yup if you have your on page factors properly configured, your off page efforts become halved! Don't push it too much, as that can bring on some Google dance effect sometimes. Aiming for 6 weeks may be safer depending on what steps you take. Go for quality backlinks over quantity!
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  • This is an awesome post, thanks for sharing.

    Not only is this ALOT of great content but also very inspiring to people who are wanting to make more $$$ in the world of IM. I really appreciate the time you have taken to write up and share this with us.
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    • You're making me really impatient! Off to Fiverr right away to order a set up accounts and yes I sure hope it gets fixed before thanksgiving

      Thank you Dave, it's really encouraging to see comments like that! Hope you find some good nuggets here!
      Chucky
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  • Hi Chucky
    I came here mainly to thank you for very helpful advice and you membership site is very amazing, alot of stuff i learned from it
  • Thanks for dedicating so much time to this thread. Much appreciated.

    I wanted to ask, have you any opinions on the panda update?
  • Ha! What a long post, all I could say is Thank God for you
  • I'm impressed. You really do your homework and your attention to detail is staggering. I am going to refer to your post to ehance my knowledge and improve my own sites.

    Thanks a lot Chucky
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  • valuable SEO strategies. i know SEO but some of your information give me inspiration to do SEO better. well done!
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    • Hi.
      I just want to add my thanks to the multitude.

      I noticed that you have mentioned that you do not use AdWords except for observation and pricing. I am assuming that you have an account.

      I lost my account when Google purged many affiliates and I had to open a new one. I seldom use it but it is handy for many things. The sad thing is that they kept the money that I had in the account when they closed it, unlike Yahoo. Yahoo sent me a check when they changed their system. Google never even sent me a picture of a middle finger or anything.

      I started buying domains as early as 2004 with the intention of making them into marketing sites, but I parked all 40 of them for a long time. It is interesting how we all progress and change with discovery and knowledge.

      Blogging really excites me. The marketing potential is one thing, but the creativity is quite another. I have been actively blogging now for over 4 years and I am continuing to learn new things all of the time.

      This thread is a learning tool. You and many of the posters have made it so. You have shown all of us very much. I have learned some things of value that I have not come across in any eBook, manual, or exchange in other forums. This is very admirable of you to give out so much of your learned knowledge, and to keep the responses going for months.

      I just want to convey my personal appreciation and thanks.

      I have read to page 13 and skipped to the end to add my two cents.

      Thanks again.
  • I spend 5 hours reading each posts up to the 15 pages and well done with your advices and now I should do“TAKING ACTION”.

    In the past (2007-2009) I made good income online doing, clickbank as vendor (made almost 600 sales) and affiliate, earn 30$ a day with Adsense for one of my website.

    But one day I fall into the wheel doing buying products I’ve never been use (sometime I buy a product and I found I’ve already bought the product in the past), I’ve lost 7k using freelancer to create an email marketing website and a similar website to clickbank and I was never be able to launch one of them because I knew nothing about “coding stuff” and a day I found “my custom script” I paid was a script that can be bought 500$ online and without this “so incredible discovery by doing nothing good project management” resulting in more money losing straight too garbage.

    And I paid so much for creating ebook, articles, seo-services, bought too much domains etc.. One positive thing with this than I can use all those stuff and focus one project at the time.

    I still make few online income with some of my products (French market) but I back online one month ago when I saw a outlook backup showing hundred messages about I’ve made sales / affiliate income.

    Since I got my software developer degrees i know the “coding” stuff in both side and I have a better toolbox. Also I’m avoid doing 45 projects in the same time without getting one of them completed.

    So congratulation and it what a real pleasure reading this thread.

    And if I can help someone with html, php, css, C#, vb.net and french stuff I will be glad to help you like Chucky
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    • Hey, thank you for the kind words!

      Wow, Google kept the money? That's mean!!

      So you were not using a cc to pay and instead prepaid them?

      Hey, thanks for the questions! Yes it's fine to do it that way!

      As for the sticky post, I've seen many people raising the same question as you do and a lot of people say it is NOT an issue and Google knows to discount that 'duplicate' copy. But I know that is not a proper answer.

      I just checked my older sites (with 1 sticky) and newer sites (with >1 sticky on the homepage). At least the titles and meta description were different, although the homepage title and sticky post title essentially led to the same content (in case of those with 1 sticky).

      I'm sorry, I can't give you a more definitive answer here. I have not had problems doing it, but then again, if I used a static page instead of a sticky post, may be I would get page 1 with even less effort? I don't know!! If this bugs you, you can use a static page instead of sticky post, which I also do sometimes (only because OptimizePress gives a lot more options with pages than with posts). What I have noticed when I use a static page is that Google does NOT index that page URL as a separate page (I think - I'm new to using static pages). With static pages I feel that you lose that page. mydomainname.com/keyword-rich-static-page is virtually non-existent! I can't build links to it if it is optimized differently than the homepage. I can build links, but they get redirected to the homepage? As you can see, there is a lot I don't know about static pages. On a positive point, I have seen John Reese recommending using static pages but as I cover inside Dead Simple Killer SEO, your 'pages' won't show up on your RSS feed!

      The 2nd one, you misunderstood! I keep it blocked only till the site configurations are done properly and I remove the blockade just before publishing the 1st post. I remember covering that specifically in the videos - may be video 2 of publishing content

      #3: Nope it never was an issue. May be because of the caching plugin. 20K (probably more if you take the whole month) was just 1 website: 50 websites X 20K visitors, I would have quit graduate school long time ago

      How many sites per account? I have 2 reseller accounts and probably close to 100 domains may be 70 in one and 30 in the other. But may be 10 of them get considerable traffic (100+/day). Every once in a while I get an email saying 80% bandwidth reached and I would go and increase it by 1000MB and that's it. I think it's unlimited and limited only if you receive a ton of traffic!

      Hope that helped!
      Chucky

      Wow 5 hours! Thank you! And yes, it's up to 'Taking action' now, which is what is going to be your true learning! Aha, we've all lost money, we've all been scammed.. that's just how it is I think. The 80/20 rule always wins. 80% of what we do go wasted and only 20% of what we do gives us true results and sometimes I feel its like a 95/5 rule

      Thank you for your kind offer!
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  • Hey Chucky, now I need to booost my offpage campaign a lot because 2 of my 2nd kw stuck at 8-10th position and my primary at 20th! any suggestion?
  • I have been on this forum for awhile, and lurked before, and can't believe I never found this thread. If only I found it a few years ago before I learned everything on my own!

    Nice work man!
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  • Hi Chucky
    Did you notice dropping in rankings for some of your sites after last G update ?.. if yes, what do you recommend to recover from this ?
    Thanks In Advance
  • Hi Chuky,

    I am a newbie in the field of IM. The only thin I can do is to make a very simple blog. And since I have started making a blog, I also want to earn money in creating a website but I really don't have an idea on how and where to start and what are the things I really should take in to considerations. After reading your thread, I feel a little dizzy and surprise with the number of things I need note in able to be successful.

    Any suggestion where to start? or I really need to go through the guide you have posted here?

    BR,
    Fernan
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    • start at the beginning of this thread

      that's about the best starting point you could get...
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  • Hi Chucky,

    Hope you are doing alright.
    I was trying to post a question on optimising page load speed (W3 total cache plugin) on your membership site under the relevant video Site Building part 7, but there is no way to leave a comment. Please let me know where is the best place to post it?

    thank you
  • My jaw literally dropped when I saw this thread. Really amazing! How I wish I could do the same. I just bookmarked this thread or future reference. Thanks, mate.
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  • Chucky did any of your sites get hit by the oct panda
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    • First of all congrats! If you take action, even if it ain't perfect, you get results! And hopefully BP will be 100s of times better for you this year and you would know what to do next year!

      I'm basically in 1 good niche with CJ and I'm sorry I can't give any hints whatsoever !! I will say one thing but I doubt it will be of any help at all. It's a niche of desperation, people WILL spend money because they're desperate!

      Link diversity (I have a post about it here) Have you done any videos or press releases or software submissions etc? And there's plenty more I cover there. Also remember not to stop after a single campaign, do at least 2-3 rounds at weekly intervals and you are bound to see results!

      Hey thanks! But I believe this thread is only about 6 months old !

      Gosh I take one weekend off and there was another Panda? I just checked my major sites and all of them are there although I had my site on my WSO disappear on the 11th/12th of October - but that's not Panda, just the Google dance - new site!

      However, I do see a dip in one of my CB accounts - may be inner pages are affected - will check later and confirm.

      So was this another BIG Panda? seems like a ton to catch up!

      Mahmood - one of the best guides I've seen about recovering from Panda is a WSO from a guy named Paul Clifford - don't know if it's still available - but it was very good!

      EDIT: I see that two of my sites have been affected. Both of them had brand names in the domain names. One of them was #2 and the other #1 the last time I checked and today both are #6ish. I think this is the typical pattern others saw also.

      I will admit that I haven't added ANY content to these in years (may be 1 year with one and 2-3 years with the other). I did start building links to them may be 2-3 weeks ago, just to give them some fresh links. I saw someone saying somewhere that fresh domains were pushed down and aged domains gained but I can't see this being the case with these two because both of them are 3+ years old. Funnily, the website that was below me in both examples are still right below me! Almost looks like a -5 penalty to both of us.

      I see there's a lot of talk about it on another thread - should go and educate myself!

      Sorry man, there are no shortcuts! At least nothing that I know of!

      It should be on the main MODULE page for 'site building'. On the menu bar, the 2nd from the far right hand corner says something like 'questions/comments' - if you go there, you will see the section for 'site building' or you can email me as well - my email address is there on the same drop down menu! Look forward to answering your question!
  • Hi Chucky, thank you very much!
    Your thread really enriches my knowledge and empowers me to start my IM business.
    However, I've a question to ask, could you please advise me on this?

    I am building a site with increasing number of posts.
    In your tutorial of a 5-page site, you stated that there should be 1 sticky post for the theme kw and 4 other posts for 1ry kw. But what if I only have 1 post optimized for the theme kw and all other many posts are for a few 1ry(2~4) or various 1ry(10+), will my ranking in theme kw be affected?

    Or is this okay as long as I include my theme kw in every single posts? And what would be the frequency of the theme kw?

    Thank you very much!
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    • I think we are both saying the same thing!

      1 post optimized for the theme keyword - which is the sticky post
      4 other posts optimized for other related keywords

      No your rankings will not be affected as long as the other keywords are related.

      If your theme kw is boys bikes and your 2ry kw would be girls bikes, mens bikes and sports bikes, yes you will have problems ranking for your theme kw which is boys bikes. But if your 2ry kw are 12 inch boys bikes, 16 inch boys bikes etc, you won't have a problem ranking for your theme kw.

      On other pages/posts I would have the theme keyword in at least 1 H2 tag, anchor text and 4-5 times/500 word article. And also in the title of the post, meta description, meta kw - I think I mentioned all that in the main on page optimization post!

      Hope that helps!
      Chucky
  • Hello Chucky!

    I have a few questions...

    1. Should we nofollow our sitemaps? Because I've heard many times that Google in fact FOLLOWS nofollow links, all it doesn't do is it doesn't pass pagerank to those pages (in theory, it would be better not to pass pagerank to sitemap, wouldn't it?).

    2. Do you nofollow or noindex category and tags pages? How do you it? And why?

    3. How many blog posts do you allow to appear on the pages where they are listed (i.e., category pages, tag pages, the home page...)? For example, if we set the number of posts to 1, we naturally increase the amount of all pages of our site (category pages and the other pages will be broken down to show only 1 blog post at a time...). How do you this, and why?

    4. Do you use blog post excerpts on your home page, or do you prefer a static page? And why?

    Thank you so much!

    Monthy
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    • I see your point, but I make my sitemaps dofollow! Anyway, wouldn't the PR flow back to your site? I have heard that PR goes down when it goes through a link. For example you may only be able to recover 90% of the link juice that goes to your site map.

      You shouldn't nofollow/noindex both category and tag pages (From what I know). I believe many SEO wordpress plugins let you do this.

      No excerpts, sticky posts preferred over static pages - the only justification I have is because posts show up on RSS feeds but pages don't! I don't know if it makes a difference or not! I feel that with excerpts, it's harder to do on page SEO.

      Hope that helps!
      Chucky
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    • Hello Chucky,

      When you build websites with with amazon products do you use links, banners or widgets. What is working the best for you?

      I have some websites and just started with amazon products. I have also adsense on the same website. What is better amazon or adsense or maybe both.

      Thanks for your advice
  • Come on, cut the guy a break - Chucky's done an amazing job with this thread and with answering 16 pages of discussion with little to gain for himself, I am pretty sure he is NOT holding back the one, single key to your success, it's all in the thread, he's not some guru, it's all common sense stuff. Stop overthinking, start doing, and give Chucky a well-earned rest (so he doesn't screw up his studies)!!!
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    • Hello Chucky. I have an amazon review site. I have been writing articles and posting them to my website first and then to EZA, GoArticles, Squidoo and a few others. I am linking back to my main website from the articles. While linking my latest article on Squidoo, I was advised that I had reached my maximum number of links back to my website, which I believe is 10. What should I link any future content to from any content that I post om Squidoo? Should I link It directly to an amazon product or to another page or piece of content on my main website? I am unsure what to do and would appreciate any advice. Thank you. Jimmy
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  • No "Seo Secrets" revealed here lol.
  • Hi.
    I wonder if anyone can help me, not just you Chcky, but anyone.
    I have a site that after all the recent Panda-risms, is sitting just off page 1 for lots of my keywords.
    I know I need links, but I already have plenty, and most of the sites beating me now are EMDs or variations of EMDs.
    My question is, how can I get back onto page 1.
    Everything's optimisied, everything's nicely interlinked, and as I say, I have high pr, .gov and .edu links a plenty, I even put videos on my pages, but still no movement, and I can't get off page 2 for search terms I used to boss...

    One more thing.
    I have several sites selling physical products, and I've noticed a real dip in sales over the last six months, even with sites that sit high on page 1 and used to convert nicely. After hearing a recent news article saying Amazon sales are down 70% year on year, I'm thinking that could be the reason.

    Time for a bit of honesty, is anybody else struggling, with conversions?
    I suspect this is the recession biting in, as it's Europe and America that make up the bulk of sales, or not sales, as the case may be.

    Interested in your opinions...

    @chucky - how you getting on with Social Pipes?
  • hey chucky,
    thanks for the really great information. i am still finishing up school but i was thinking of quitting school and start putting more time in internet marketing. but, i really learned a lot from your informative post and hopefully achieve similar results.
    thanks!
  • CHUCKY, I use MNF too, BUT I don't know some of my site jump down on zero level. I'll review what the problem on them is. Reading your valuable thread makes me sure I can repair my mistake. I love 10 list factors of your success. Thanks.
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  • This is some really helpful information, I just hope I can implement it in the right way to get good results.
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    • Hi Chucky- After building only two websites, I've bought several website through the WSO offers to keep increasing website production while I am trying to figure out keywords selection. Mostly, I figure it's better to do something to keep moving forward than do nothing. Even when that something is horribly wrong I've found value in the experience. Maybe, buying sites isn't smart, but I knew I did not have a good handle on keywords at that time. This is an awesome thread. Thanks for all the free advice!! I picked up your WSO as well. Both have helped me on my keyword selection. I've started the third site and am glad to have your suggestions to use.
  • Hi,

    I really lookin forward to hear more from you. You are really inspiring me.






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    • Hi all,

      Sorry for abandoning the thread for a while (both this and my WSO); my time is taken up almost entirely by non-IM interests and will be that way at least till half way through December. So Thanks for understanding.

      OK guys! That's my LAST contribution to this thread, may be until 2012! Hope everybody will have a great holiday SELLING seazon!
      Chucky
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  • wow i was doubting but thnx for sharing
  • us shud write a book
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  • Thanks chuck! .... its nice to see people sharing there ideas and experiences here. I will definitely be following you and your progress and ventures. Keep up the good work to bringing hope to people that have lost it
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  • I think that had to be one of the longest posts I have seen on WF.

    Great information and thank you for going into the deatils.
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  • So much info! This is really great! You are giving this away, you should put it into a WSO and build a list.....but still make it free
    Thank you Chuck!
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  • so amazon does work?
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    • Seriously???? Geez
    • I make more from Amazon than I do ad sense. Based at looking at my various sites, I'd say it depends on how much work I put into them content-wise and backlinking as to how well they do. Amazon does well for me using solid content, not 400 word fluff. Ad sense, I just have less interest in those sites than I do my review sites. That totally reflects it in the earning statements. I can't speak for anyone else's results.
  • I purchased Chucky's WSO. For me, this WSO is outstanding!!! It only costs around 9.00, so pick it up if you like what Chucky writes on this thread.

    Here is Chucky's WSO Enjoy!!!
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  • wow, this post should be required reading.. I haven't found anything as informative & well rounded about keyword research!! (though I haven't been doing IM for long!) It's gonna take me a few days to get through all this - just wondering if you think doing excellent SEO on a non-buying ready keyword (just hoping to pull in money from adsense if I can get the top spot's traffic) is worth it? how much money should that pull in if search volume is in the range you suggest?
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    • There are many differing opinions on what to with SEO and IM on this forum but this thread by Chucky is simply superb and he explains things in such a straightforward way!
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  • This still keeping up after all the Panda updates?
  • I set up a few sites following chucky's advice a few months ago and was eagerly waiting for black friday to come since all my sites were in this niche. All I can say is WOW, I earned way more than I thought I would on Black friday, this is by far, one of the best niches to be in. December is also a great month for amazon affiliates so I'm very much looking forward to these upcoming weeks
  • wow, how did i miss this thread.
  • Dude so very cool man!! Pay it forward. It's so nice to see advice that is useable and not spammy and legit and has actionable steps to achieve. I like the fact that you also included all the things that show you're like the rest of us in this IM game. Thanks
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    • Long live Chucky the Great! What a mind and heart you have.

      Cheers,
      Mary Greene
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  • It's always fantastic to find out what works, and be able to scale it up
  • Hey
    Please let me know that the content you write (by your hand, outsource) or auto generate content?
    Thanks
  • Thank you very much Chuky for awesome information, very helpful.
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  • Hey Chucky, Thanks to you and this thread, I made a killing this holiday season with Amazon. It amazes me that you provided all of this information for free in this thread. Thank you so much for your thoughtfulness.
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    • that's awesome news ray congrats
  • Thank you so much for sharing!
  • @Chucky - Thanks for that last reply.
    I'm really surprised nobody else piped up about dipping sales.

    Of course, Christmas is always going to be the best time of year to sell on Amazon, but when I said Amazon sales were down 70% I was referring to news I'd heard from the company itself.

    Personally, thanks in large to the advice I picked up from this thread, I had a great year, and while I didn't hit six figures for 2012, I did have a couple of 4 figure days before Christmas.

    But I'm quite sure that the mix of Panda and the ongoing financial situation has led to a big downturn in sales at Amazon itself.

    It really would be good to hear some honest admissions from other warriors on the subject, because I've seen for myself that several of my less well attended sites have really underperformed, especially since May/June time.
  • This looks great
  • Wow, I am really impressed! I have my own website, that has been up and running for just over a year now and I just added an Amazon site, but have not done any marketing for the Amazon site yet. My plan was to just start blogging the different merchandise on my Amazon site, and as you stated, using low search KW. Thanks for sharing your successful experiences! Happy New Year!
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    • OK back after a couple of months! And here's a screenshot of last two months of 2011! I think it looks slightly better than last year (from Amazon). Added the same to page 1 btw.



      I did instead I charged for the WSO, but I haven't sent a single email to the list - I just can't spam people's inboxes. May be in the future

      Thank you Tim, appreciate your comments and promoting my WSO! Hope you were able to get some results from what you learned!

      Hey, thanks!
      I'm not sure I know the right answer to your question. But think about this, if that is a non-buying kw, would there be adsense ads? unless you rank for the non-commercial kw and drive traffic to a page optimized for a commercial kw. See what I mean?

      Updated 2012 screenshot should answer that question!

      AWESOME NEWS man! I hope your screenshot looks better than mine. Congrats! As I've been saying ACTION = DOUGH and those who took action would have had similar results this year!

      Hey, yes the backbone is the same although I have done a few changes as far as plugins go etc. Unfortunately I can't share them here because that's info from my paid WSO and it would not be fair for the paying customers if I shared that information for free here.

      Hope you understand!

      Not autogenerated content!
      Hey, great to hear about your 4 figure days! My answer still remains the same, as you can see from my screenshot, no dip for me. I think it depends on the niche you target. The screenshot would have looked even better if there had been snow this year (hint hint) Several #1-3 ranking sites - no snow - no demand - no visitors - no $

      I experienced the same with one of my Nintendo sites. I've shared that niche in the past, so I'll be open about it. Last year I made several Ks from this site, but this year it was down to about $500, I believe that's not because people didn't buy video games but because I didn't evolve from Nintendo Wii to Xbox Kinect, which was the hottest selling game this year (out of Nintendo, PS3 and Xbox). OK, yet another 7 figure idea for an action taker!

      So I think it must be a niche specific thing!

      Great! You know that's where all of started!
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  • Chucky, I totally understand! Thanks for replying and for keeping this thread alive! Be careful, though; I was reading in another thread that if an OP has more than 50 posts in his thread, it will lock the thread! I don't know if this is still in effect, but you may want to look into that. I heard that you can consolidated posts and delete others to lower your "posts in thread."

    Your WSO says 31 days...is that the average of how long it takes for your to rank one of your sites?

    Thanks again for not abandoning this thread!
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    Seriously, I'd buy you a drink if I could. Few people give back in such a way.
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  • Great Info! Love what I'm reading here and will bookmark this thread for further review. Thanks so much!
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  • hey chucky, do you still run the seo service you offered? thx for the reply
  • Going to try this method with some sites this week. Will let you know of the results.
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  • i just want to say thanks for this post because it was very helpful to me
  • Chucky, how many sites are you up to now? Are you still finding that 20% of your sites earn 80% of the money?

    Also, are you still doing 5 page niche sites, or have you expanded into larger authority-like sites? If you've gone into the authority sites, what has your experience been like with them?
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    • How many in total? 50-60+ I think
      80:20 rule? Yes I still get it wrong
      Recently I had a site hitting #1 - about 100+ uniques daily - made 1 sale in two weeks for a CB product - that's a BIG failure
      Does 5 pages still work? Yes. But I do make them bigger if I find they're making money to conquer more keywords - but they're no where near the typical authority site. Hope that helps and sorry for the delay in answering!
      Chucky
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  • Chucky you're awesome man, thank you a lot for this fantastic thread! I'll even save it on my hard drive, in case it's somehow rendered inaccessible online in the future (I hope not!). You've surely gained a lot of good 'karma' with it if you know what I mean I'll definitely buy your WSO when I'll finally make some sales (maybe it's hard to believe but these $10 is currently about all I have on my bank account ;( )

    By the way, if you don't mind I'd like to ask you for some advice as a total newbie in the IM field.

    Well I've already started my first campaign, but without buying the all the domains for kws and making my own money sites, but for a start I made a few landing pages on squidoo instead.

    My question is: is it better to go down this path for a while (ranking these LPs on 2.0 properties) for my first campaign to get some first sales quickly and start well (squidoo is an authority site so it should be a little easier to rank then 'fresh' domains I suppose?) or quickly switch over to the classic stand-alone LP model instead, and use these squidoo sites as backlinks?

    I've also written an ezine article for each of the squidoo sites (so-called 'lenses'), but most of them haven't been published yet. So one more question: in the resource box of each article I have two links, one to the corresponding squidoo lens and one hoplink straight to the clickbank sales page, but through my own domain (let's say domain1.info). Let's assume that I get these articles published, and in the future I'll decide to make my own landing page under a new, kw-targeted domain (domain2.info, or maybe .com if I have more money xD). If I then redirect the domain1 which I have in the articles' links to the same site as domain2, will it still serve as a backlink for domain2, too?

    I could also edit the article and add a new link, but then there could be problems with approval and stuff ;( I know I shouldn't think like that but it's still good to know for the future.

    Thank you for advance for the answer!
    And by the way I'd like to say hello to everyone on the forum with this post

    The niche I'm targeting isn't heavily populated by marketers and my main competitor for my keywords has about 1600 backlinks from what I've checked with SEO Spyglass, but none of them have the keywords in the anchor text.
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    Nice Journey you've got here. Big dreams, oh wait you've already achieved them.
  • I am glad to see people like you here. Thank you
  • Amazing and inspirational journey, friend, always a pleasure to see a success, keep up the great work
  • BMR service is closed. All BMR blog network have been deindexed by Google. Do you have any suggestion to replace BMR?
  • Awesome!, Thank you for good technique.
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    • It's impressive.
      But what is the latest update after the latest Panda update?
      Can you please give some light on it?
      Thanks
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  • Congratulations
  • There is an interesting article here that we can use as some guidelines:
    Backlink Banzai : Google Penguin - An Examination & Conclusions

    I still don't know what will happen next, but the scale is big, I have never seen anything like this before since the last 2007 update and this is even bigger.

    Unless Bing and Facebook's-in-concept search engine can compete the playing field equally, for the future, I think we have to create real and reasonable solid business to withstand any update.

    Business likes Zippos or Amazon. I know this is not fair, but so far I can only see Google moves to this direction. Someday in the future, we can't no longer make easy cash through affiliate program or adsense as one-man person.

    If you want to make money, follow the rule of business:

    build concept -> build prototype -> test your idea -> get funding from venture capital -> refine your business process and model -> make it big.

    From there stand point, it makes a lot of sense, since for real business it will be feasible to spend tons of cash for adwords.

    I think that's the message Google wants to convey. Even though it's shame because I do find Bing search result is more useful since the last penguin update.
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    • Bing's results are as good or better then Google, I think G definately have shot themselves in the foot!
  • So, please update your earning on 2012 ?
    After Panda and Google Penguin updated - how your income change ?
    And another question?
    All your site is a reviews site: example: product-name-reviews.com ?
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    • Ya, I would be interested too. I'm mainly an Adsense guy, but these amazon figures are intriguing.

      Phil
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    I am waiting Chucky update this thread !!!
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    • I am guessing Chucky is probably licking his wounds like a great number of us. Hope you've got SOMETHING left after all these updates, Chucky!
  • Hey Chucky, nice work man. I'm happy for your success!
  • Congrats ..

    thats one lengthy a post!!
  • Bravo man you are osom i don't think we will need another teacher from now ON...
  • It's a pity to see how big G devaluates all he was "preaching" in terms of what the sites/pages need to have in order to deserve high rankings.... I wonder, if the algorithm is so good now after Panda and Penguin, why did we trust the big G and its search results in the past when the algo was obviously bad?
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    Excellent post. Thanks.
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    • Dude, just press the "Thanks" button - and check the date of the thread, this hasn't been updated in a year, the topic is dead, Chucky has moved on to better things (we hope).
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