What is the mimimum articles/content recomended on a blog to test out a keyword

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I am making a new blog and wanna get it up and running to test the keyword.

What would be the minimum in your opinions to make it look 'passable'. i.e. minimum content to get conversions?

I plan on doing one article per keyword of around 9 good ones but wanna throw the 1st one up today and get it live with a link to the product and add the others in due course.
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  • Profile picture of the author hashbury
    I like to make ten post/articles around 500 words each to start the blog. I use a long tail keyword domain and sticky the post that has my main keyword in it. This is what works for me, but if you are targeting a very low competition keyword you would not even need 10 post.
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    • Profile picture of the author steadypay
      Originally Posted by hashbury View Post

      I like to make ten post/articles around 500 words each to start the blog. I use a long tail keyword domain and sticky the post that has my main keyword in it. This is what works for me, but if you are targeting a very low competition keyword you would not even need 10 post.
      Hm stickying the main keyword post...I'm presuming this means that it shows on the front page/first post on the front of the blog even when you make new posts?

      Isn't a 'presell' page just based around just a one-page article type deal and straight to direct link at the end?

      So far I'd been writing blog for a previous niche and updating regular but alot of people in IM just do a 'presell' page right?
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      • Profile picture of the author hashbury
        Originally Posted by steadypay View Post

        Hm stickying the main keyword post...I'm presuming this means that it shows on the front page/first post on the front of the blog even when you make new posts?

        Isn't a 'presell' page just based around just a one-page article type deal and straight to direct link at the end?

        So far I'd been writing blog for a previous niche and updating regular but alot of people in IM just do a 'presell' page right?
        Yes, it will stay on the front page even when you make new post. A presell page is based around a one page "article type deal". A lot of people do just a presell page kinda like a sniper site i guess.

        When I start a site, I like to sticky the main keyword post and have only that post on the front page. Now, this might not be the best advice, but I do this for a few reasons.
        I will add articles to my sites, let them get indexed and then submit the articles to article directories. I will link the article to my site where the landing page/presells page is. Depending on many factors, like traffic, conversions, and ranking of the site, I will either choose to unsticky the main post or leave it as is and move on to another site. I track the links I use in the articles on my site. If I get traffic to my other articles (not the presell article) and they bring in sales I will remove the sticky and operate the blog normally. If my site ranks well with the sticky post and I make the majority of sales from that post, I will more than likely leave it.

        I like to use the sniper site method, but build them up more. I really like to get my sites to rank with minimal effort. I am a fan of set and forget, but If I think the site has a good chance of being a traffic guzzler I will build it up more and update it regulary.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Poc
    Well, it doesn't matter really how many articles you have. It's all about PR and backlinks.

    I've seen some SEO masters creating sites with 1-5 articles per site.

    Just remember to use a keyword in your domain name.
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  • Profile picture of the author phpdev
    25 articles with 300 words with 25% keyword density will be good for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by phpdev View Post

      25 articles with 300 words with 25% keyword density will be good for you.
      25% keyword density?

      You can't be serious?
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      • Profile picture of the author codr
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        25% keyword density?

        You can't be serious?
        I think that's overkill. Honestly, I don't even pay attention to the keyword density anymore. What matters to me is that the keyword(s) exist somewhere in the article.

        As for the minimum, my standard is at least 10 pages of content but it really depends on the niche. The more content you have, the more you can target long tail keywords.
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by codr View Post

          I think that's overkill. Honestly, I don't even pay attention to the keyword density anymore. What matters to me is that the keyword(s) exist somewhere in the article.
          affilcrazy - Ha ha! Now there's an article I would definitely like to read...NOT!
          Overkill? It's verging on website murder!

          Think about it, every fourth word would be the keyword!

          Example, keyword - elephant.

          The elephant at the zoo elephant likes to eat elephant and ocassionally drinks elephant. On a Sunday elephant has a good elephant, he like to elephant especially when he's elephant. Come to the elephant Zoo and be an elephant.

          Now imagine reading 25, 300 word articles on this, then try and imagine how Googles spiders react when they see it!

          No, I'm sure the poster of this advice was just having some fun.
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          • Profile picture of the author affilcrazy
            Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

            Now imagine reading 25, 300 word articles on this, then try and imagine how Googles elephants react when they see it!
            I've corrected that for you!

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            • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
              Originally Posted by affilcrazy View Post

              I've corrected that for you!

              Cheers
              Partha
              Partha, just seen you're in Pinner, my office is in Bushey.

              Small world!
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              • Profile picture of the author affilcrazy
                Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                Partha, just seen you're in Pinner, my office is in Bushey.

                Small world!
                Blimey, it is indeed Richard.

                I actually went to Weald college to complete my A-levels, I regularly go to the B&Q near Bushey Arches, and you can usually find me shopping in the Harlequin in Watford.

                There is actually another Warrior from Watford (and I offer her my sincerest apologies, as I cannot recall her name at this moment in time), who often has IM related meetings in Cafe Nero in Pinner.

                We'll have to meet up sometime for a coffee/beer and a chat.

                Cheers
                Partha
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                • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                  Originally Posted by affilcrazy View Post

                  Blimey, it is indeed Richard.

                  I actually went to Weald college to complete my A-levels, I regularly go to the B&Q near Bushey Arches, and you can usually find me shopping in the Harlequin in Watford.

                  There is actually another Warrior from Watford (and I offer her my sincerest apologies, as I cannot recall her name at this moment in time), who often has IM related meetings in Cafe Nero in Pinner.

                  We'll have to meet up sometime for a coffee/beer and a chat.

                  Cheers
                  Partha
                  Definately sir.

                  Let me know when you're free or the next meet is and I'll be there.

                  Richard
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      • Profile picture of the author affilcrazy
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        25% keyword density?

        You can't be serious?
        Ha ha! Now there's an article I would definitely like to read...NOT!

        In answer to the OP, in all honesty you could have a blog with ONE great, quality article that converts every single visitor, whereas you can also have a blog with 5000 articles that sees your readers leave in their droves.

        I would suggest rather than overly worrying about article length, keyword density, number of articles etc. initially you may want to focus on providing quality content that makes your readers want to come back for more. If your sole aim is to concentrate on conversions you may well be extremely disappointed.

        For me, a new blog/niche would involve plenty of intial study and research and then formulating my own opinion on the subject matter, before I even think about putting pen to paper. I will then write content based on these opinions and from what I have learnt (from authority sites/experts/forums/newsletters in that niche).

        By asking "What is the minimum?" it simply seems as though you are looking for something that is easy or quick, although I may be very wrong with my assumption (and if I am I apologise).

        If the subject is one that interests you, if you believe you can produce plenty of content, and if you believe the niche is commercially viable (which the vast majority are) then just go for it. Don't hold yourself accountable to a certain number just because someone else said so.

        Remember that most niches will have thousands, if not millions, of people promoting different products or services within that niche, so if you are looking for "conversions" - What makes you unique? What can you offer that others can't? Why should people "buy" from you?

        Cheers
        Partha
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  • Profile picture of the author Jim Guererro
    There are so many variables that initially set off red flags that it's almost impossible to answer this question without knowing what niche your promoting. No don't tell me either because it also depends on SEO measures that you have in place, what other marketing aspects do you employ to get your site known to the search engines?

    You have a plan that sounds like the blog will be good to go but without the site being ranked, no one will know about it.

    So the minimum number of articles to experience conversions is a different number for each and every niche. and to further complicate matters that minimum number is not a guarantee for the next sale. Affiliate marketing is like that; unpredictable.
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  • Profile picture of the author steadypay
    Are there advantages to doing a one page preseller site over a more content based blog? If so what are the advantages?
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  • Profile picture of the author hashbury
    This is just from my experience, and im not the most experienced on WF. I found this out through trial and error with my sites.

    To me the advantages are:
    I like to direct link to my main url and not to sub folders or post when doing backlinks. This allows me to target the main keyword for the homepage and know what my keyword density is on that page. I do not have to worry about the content always changing and what keywords are being targeted on the main page. Just keep in mind my mentality when i do this is a set and forget type.

    The other thing I like about doing it this way is, I always know what the visitor is going to see when they hit my site. I usually link back to my main domain through articles. When I write my articles, I write around 80 to 90% of the article to be informative and try to give about 10 to 20% information that pertains to my presell on my main url. I dont try to upsell my product in my articles, but try to kinda upsell my website so to speak. This is a thin line and got me a few articles declined, but now I get accepted with no problems. When I do my resource box on the article, I let the visitor know about the product and the presell page that they are going to.

    I try to pre-presell the visitor before they ever get to my site. This has seemed to work better for me.

    If I find other articles/post are ranking high for their keywords or if they are just getting a nice amount of traffic I will drop this method and make it into a normal type of blog. My main goal when doing this type of site is to target one easy to rank keyword and get it ranked. If I start ranking for other keywords my game plan changes.
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  • Profile picture of the author steadypay
    I was thinking isn't more content better due to latent semantic indexing or what haveyou?

    I.e. better to have 9 of my keyword targeted articles than 1.
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyVideo
    Frequency matter more than number. Post regularly for 10-15 days and ping every 3-4 days. You will start to notice visitors. This is the case with my blogs. Some, show results as quickly as 2 days with 2 keyword rich articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author steadypay
    I'm still in two minds about whether to have a blog or just have it as a one page presell type deal with direct link at the bottom. So setting up a good quality 1k article and just having it as a static page with direct link at the bottom. I'm just wondering, if the buyer were already interested then is there much point in doing more articles. Not that I'm lazy but more than I was thinking it would be more streamlined this way. I guess that more articles means it looks less like it's JUST to sell the product and so is less likely to wreck the trust with the customer. Anyhow I have 9 optimized keywords so I will be doing 9 articles at least eventually so I spose it's just a sooner or later thing. Think I'll do the 9 articles then an internal link to a product overview then direct link. The forum is screwed up today. Why aren't paragraphs working?
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