Market Samurai Gone Useless [???]

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hi, my version (and my friend's MS) can't return the total number of searches for keywords. it just returns "-" for all search terms.

also in the new update of MS, the option to choose results with keywords in their titles is gone.

if that's the case, then the reason for which i'm using MS is nulled and will remain so till i get some clarification.

cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
    Best advice..move on..I have already deleted Ms from my Pc..you know the saying good things don't last forever.
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    • Profile picture of the author Croz
      I would contact Noble Samurai - Support and talk to them about it.

      My version works fine so it's definitely not an issue with any of the features.

      Hope that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author jacked
      Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

      Best advice..move on..I have already deleted Ms from my Pc..you know the saying good things don't last forever.
      This, after the Yahoo Site Explorer is shut down, MS isn't going to be that great.
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      • Yes it is very disappointing what's happening with MS. If you have paid for it I wouldn't just throw it in the trash can unless you need the space on your HD. It will still help you get drilled down a step or two into a niche. As for it not returning any results, they posted that because of Goggle's messing around the older versions of MS are not now supported. You must upgrade or should I say update. I did so earlier today and it is more or less working but the functions mentioned above are gone from the options. The version I have now is (ver. 0.87.41). Try updating and see what happens.
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      • Profile picture of the author ExploringInfinity
        Originally Posted by jacked View Post

        This, after the Yahoo Site Explorer is shut down, MS isn't going to be that great.
        Yeah.. I just bought Market Samurai about a month ago, and now it's useless.

        I want my money back. Perhaps I should request a refund.
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  • Profile picture of the author jesus3
    i stopped using market samurai after google changed they codes and made it useless. they took to long to update theres more programs out there that can do the job and better. like serpattacks lol. thats wat i use now.
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    • Profile picture of the author lkpub
      Originally Posted by jesus3 View Post

      i stopped using market samurai after google changed they codes and made it useless. they took to long to update theres more programs out there that can do the job and better. like serpattacks lol. thats wat i use now.
      Serpattacks... hmmm... never heard of it before... at least not that I can remember... gonna have to take a looksee... Fortunately I never bought MS... kept reading how Micro Niche Finder was better but didn't have the budget to invest in either at the time which might've been a blessing in disguise considering the Google changes. I do think I have Traffic Travis somewhere but I've yet to use it... gonna look at Serattacks tho and see what that's all about especially since it's free... Anyone else using it?
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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Skinner
      Thanks for the heads up on serpattacks I'm gonna check out the free version!
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  • Profile picture of the author sentient
    If you take a look at the MS blog, you will see that they have announced that the results for in title and in url are no longer available.

    They try and spin this into good news, because it means that reduced load on the servers results in a speeding up of other features.

    However, realistically, of course there is no good news. And in answer to the OP, yes, MS is currently useless. If you can't analyse the viability of a keyword, then there is little point in using it. You can generate the same keywords through the google adwords keyword tool.

    Time to find an alternative!
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    • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
      Originally Posted by sentient View Post

      If you take a look at the MS blog, you will see that they have announced that the results for in title and in url are no longer available.

      They try and spin this into good news, because it means that reduced load on the servers results in a speeding up of other features.

      However, realistically, of course there is no good news. And in answer to the OP, yes, MS is currently useless. If you can't analyse the viability of a keyword, then there is little point in using it. You can generate the same keywords through the google adwords keyword tool.

      Time to find an alternative!
      The two features I use the most.
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    • Profile picture of the author wsotoolz
      Originally Posted by sentient View Post

      If you take a look at the MS blog, you will see that they have announced that the results for in title and in url are no longer available.
      What is really up with this? I mean why would they say that they can't get allintitle and allinurl results from Google? If you really want them you can get them... my program All In Scraper gets all that... something else smells a little fishy here if you ask me...
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      • Profile picture of the author sentient
        Originally Posted by wordpress_seo View Post

        What is really up with this? I mean why would they say that they can't get allintitle and allinurl results from Google? If you really want them you can get them... my program All In Scraper gets all that... something else smells a little fishy here if you ask me...
        I quite agree.

        I'm sure you weren't touting for business with your post, but I've taken a look at your All In Scraper, tried the demo, and then purchased the full version

        It actually does more than MS did, and is exactly what I was looking for, so many thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author SpyGuy
          Originally Posted by sentient View Post

          I quite agree.

          I'm sure you weren't touting for business with your post, but I've taken a look at your All In Scraper, tried the demo, and then purchased the full version

          It actually does more than MS did, and is exactly what I was looking for, so many thanks!

          Took the words right out of my mouth!


          MS is working fine as of today. RankCheck and Competition Module are working. However, Its still way too slow.

          It sucks about the inurl/title function being removed. That was GOLD.

          All in Scraper is the solution for that though!


          I dont know why people are knocking MS. Its one of the best tools for organizing and filtering your keywords. And, the MS team is amazing.

          If anyone knows of a better all around keyword tool please post it as I would buy it in a heartbeat.

          cheers
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        • Profile picture of the author wsotoolz
          Originally Posted by sentient View Post

          I quite agree.

          I'm sure you weren't touting for business with your post, but I've taken a look at your All In Scraper, tried the demo, and then purchased the full version

          It actually does more than MS did, and is exactly what I was looking for, so many thanks!
          Well I could not just sit back and not participate in this thread

          I too like MS and hope everything gets resolved but with the loss of allintitle and allinurl I thought I should mention that there are alternatives.

          Thanks for giving AIS a try and if you have any questions or suggestions I am all ears.
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  • Profile picture of the author TokiTover
    This software still does great at getting ideas and such. To tell the truth I didn't even look at the seotc. Just put in the work to get good bl to your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author simonbuzz
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    I just hate MS....will buy a new tool
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Lin
      How about Micro Niche Finder? Did the recent google change of things affect it?
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      • Profile picture of the author fishka
        Originally Posted by Alex Lin View Post

        How about Micro Niche Finder? Did the recent google change of things affect it?
        MNF works well, after all updates!
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    • Profile picture of the author php0606
      Originally Posted by simonbuzz View Post

      I just hate MS....will buy a new tool

      Why MS become useless?my colleague just bought the software last month and said thats product really cool...
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      • Profile picture of the author jacked
        Originally Posted by php0606 View Post

        Why MS become useless?my colleague just bought the software last month and said thats product really cool...
        Yahoo is shutting down its API, so if MS finds a decent source of backlink data it should be fine. Right now Majestic SEO doesn't look too great.
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  • Profile picture of the author charu.seo
    all are absolutely right MS is totally useless now..suggest any other good tool.
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    • Profile picture of the author Captain Dynamo
      Originally Posted by charu.seo View Post

      all are absolutely right MS is totally useless now..suggest any other good tool.
      Yeah I'm wondering what software is a good alternative to Market samurai since i was about to buy it but..... reading these posts i certainly aint.

      I've tried Brad Callens Niche Finder software but found it waaayyy to basic for my needs as it has no serps analysis.

      Niche Market Finder is a great free tool for analysing serps but limited.

      theres also something call Micro Niche Finder?
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  • Profile picture of the author AsianIM
    How about Traffic Travis Pro, is good enough??
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  • Profile picture of the author 0b1
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    I'm having problems with MS itself, I hope its just temporarily. Aside from the SEOTC, i am having troubles with the MS's Rank tracker, the display of information is so different from SEO suite's rank tracker and MS is slower too .

    Im sure the guys at MS are doing something to combat this bad publicity of it not working etc.

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  • Profile picture of the author SEOpsychic
    ok, confirmed. i ready their blog. and the funny thing is. they say this problem is "temporal" when google is changing their rules for good. it's too bad how they make it seem like it can be fixed.

    they said they are trying to tap results from Bing but with no success as of yet and i don't think they will succeed (good news if they do succeed) but the point is...google results are superior. Google ranks #1 Bing ranks #20, now way i would be happy even if the succeed with Bing.

    VERDICT: Market Samurai is useless now.

    the only regret i have is...i just realized this minutes after i had bought it.

    i won't bother asking for a refund. they need it cause their business prolly will go down from now. too bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
    Since I began getting poor results for MS, I've turned to Traffic Travis. It's been on my computer for a while and I guess I now need to learn how to use its features properly.
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  • Profile picture of the author riza
    It's a real shae because i liked MS. I think the team put in a good effort building it and all the tutorials that went along with it. The realy pity is that i think most of the other features on MS are great and still work fine. The SEO competition tool, moetize page, content finder etc are all good. But the whole process starts with keyword research and now that's gone it makes the whole tool pretty much useless.

    The other thing i never liked is that it was always a little slow. Not just in getting results but changing tabs etc.

    I'm currently looking for an alternative. Havent chosen one yet but i have my eye on SEcockpit which looks like the most interesting for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author RichardHK
    If MS goes down due to Google changes, won't the others out there (Travis, MNF, etc) also go? Or is it a function of programming resources?

    My MS is so unreliable currently it is really sad. But have had my money's worth if it fades away. I really hope not though. Fabulous interface and wide range of tools and info. Still much of value in MS but as noted above, keyword research is the main pillar.
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  • Profile picture of the author lukemeister
    I can't quite bring myself to slam MS yet

    MS is undergoing a lot of bugs lately but they keep fixing things as things happen - software like this is going to always need to evolve because it relies on other systems and ways of mining data that are always evolving

    Just make sure to keep up with the software updates and to report bugs to support (rather than just complain on their forum like a lot of people do) to get the most out of it

    I still find MS to be very useful, I can research related keywords, see their SEO value and get a pretty good idea of traffic expectations, and size up the competition.

    In the last month I've found 3 niches and put up three web sites that are right now starting to make money, all using data from MS, which tells me it's still useful. I probably would not have been able to find and zero in on those niches without MS.

    Yeah it's not perfect software and is going through some bumps, but it still saves me a ton of time from doing all that research the "old way" - so I'm gonna ride it out and keep using it for now, I'm liking it, it still feels like a secret weapon.
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  • In my personal opinion, MS will be worth it just for the ability to see which high PR links your competitors have.
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  • Profile picture of the author InitialEffort
    @TB You can accomplish this with Scrapebox and some proxies on a far more efficient level.
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    • Profile picture of the author coronaborcalis
      Originally Posted by InitialEffort View Post

      @TB You can accomplish this with Scrapebox and some proxies on a far more efficient level.
      Can you tell more specific? I'm using trial version so the feature in MS has gone
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  • Profile picture of the author tritrain
    I'm so glad that I didn't buy MS.

    It's one of the few pieces of good news I've in weeks. ...and I've had a lot of really bad news lately.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnhoefer
    It runs so slow on my computer that it is useless regardless of reduced features.
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    • Profile picture of the author SEOpsychic
      Originally Posted by johnhoefer View Post

      It runs so slow on my computer that it is useless regardless of reduced features.
      i think this is also another problem. it's slow for me and for my friends and most of the times it's not responding, hangs and freezes
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  • Profile picture of the author east_coast_alex
    I'm really surprised at the number of people who are saying that Market Samurai should just be discarded. This is a knee-jerk reaction.

    For the record, I have no official connection with MS and am not even an affiliate.

    I've been using this tool for about two years, and it is far from useless even with the current -- and likely temporary -- lack of title (SEOTC) and URL (SEOUC) keyword data.

    The MS functions that enable you to guage the viability of a particular market go far beyond SEOTC and SEOUC info.

    Consider these points:

    1 - MS is one of the best values you can find. It is based on sound, fundamental semantic principles that enable you to construct websites that rank faster. If you haven't done the training, you should, as it will enable you to get a lot more out of this tool.

    2 - The SEOV estimate gives you a nice tool to determine the potential value of a market. Given two potential markets with similar statistics, the SEOV helps you choose the market that would give you the highest return on your hard work.

    3 - The SEO Competition function gives you tremendous insight into the true SEO strength of the top ten websites for any keyword. (The SEOTC and SEOUC numbers might look great, but if you skip examining the strength of your potential competition, you could get steam rolled in a hurry.) You may discover that the top ranking websites are very weak or very strong. This is a critical point to consider in your decision making process.

    4 - MS is supported by a passionate team of IM developers and researchers and they continuously upgrade the product. Think of all the products you have purchased that were essentially abandoned by the owner after they made a quick killing with the release.

    I could go on and on about the valuable features of this tool. Bottom line, the value the MS team provides for a one-off payment far outstrips any other IM software product I have purchased over the past five years.

    If you really want to understand how this tool works, check out some of the training videos in the Samurai Dojo at: Noble Samurai - Dojo.
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  • Profile picture of the author Terellk
    I bought MS when things started to fall apart. Now I use the free version of Traffic Travis. Its great tool... I haven't used all the tools it provides. I can check to see where my site is ranked on the search engines compared to my competition. Its does a lot, still playing around with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author sentient
    You do raise some valid points alex, and I have personally had a huge amount of value from MS over the past couple of years.

    I would stand by my point, however, that in it's current state it is nearly useless.

    The keyword generation is just taking keywords from google keyword tool. You can do this yourself without MS, and there are better keyword generation tools out there that don't just use the google keyword tool as a source.

    If I have several hundred keywords generated, I need a way to filter them down to assess whether they are viable competition wise. Without the in title or in url, I have no real way of doing this. Therefore I can't move onto the next stage of examining the top 10 competition (which you can do using the free version of Traffic Travis anyway).

    Added to this that the rank tracker isn't working for me either, then there is little reason to use the software at all.

    And given that the MS team have said that they are now looking to provide competition analysis through using Bing means that the software will become completely redundant. Bing and Google are very different. I make my money via Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author Clojo
      Originally Posted by sentient View Post


      The keyword generation is just taking keywords from google keyword tool. You can do this yourself without MS, and there are better keyword generation tools out there that don't just use the google keyword tool as a source.
      Out of interest sentient what are the better keyword generation tools? I am relatively new to IM and have bought MS. I actually find it really useful, but maybe I am missing something crucial? The one thing I am having problems understanding is the difference between the backlink data? Majestic SEO seems much more that Yahoo Site Explorer. I understand that Yahoo Site Explorer is being phased out, but is SEO Majestic much more accurate? You obviously have to pay to see this data though. Are there any free tools that show you accurate backlink data.

      Would really appreciate some guidance.

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author sentient
        Originally Posted by Clojo View Post

        Out of interest sentient what are the better keyword generation tools? I am relatively new to IM and have bought MS. I actually find it really useful, but maybe I am missing something crucial? The one thing I am having problems understanding is the difference between the backlink data? Majestic SEO seems much more that Yahoo Site Explorer. I understand that Yahoo Site Explorer is being phased out, but is SEO Majestic much more accurate? You obviously have to pay to see this data though. Are there any free tools that show you accurate backlink data.

        Would really appreciate some guidance.

        Thanks
        I use a few different sources for keyword generation, a really good one is Keyword Sniper Pro 2.0. I combine these with google adwords keyword tool, so you can end up with several hundred keywords than if you just used google / MS.
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        • Profile picture of the author Clojo
          Originally Posted by sentient View Post

          I use a few different sources for keyword generation, a really good one is Keyword Sniper Pro 2.0. I combine these with google adwords keyword tool, so you can end up with several hundred keywords than if you just used google / MS.
          In MS you get up to 800 keywords for a single keyword if you sign in. Does Keyword sniper pro give you more than this. I find that most of the really obscure ones aren't worth targeting, or at least only as LSI's. What do you think?
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    • Profile picture of the author east_coast_alex
      Originally Posted by sentient View Post

      You do raise some valid points alex, and I have personally had a huge amount of value from MS over the past couple of years.

      I would stand by my point, however, that in it's current state it is nearly useless.

      The keyword generation is just taking keywords from google keyword tool. You can do this yourself without MS, and there are better keyword generation tools out there that don't just use the google keyword tool as a source.

      If I have several hundred keywords generated, I need a way to filter them down to assess whether they are viable competition wise. Without the in title or in url, I have no real way of doing this. Therefore I can't move onto the next stage of examining the top 10 competition (which you can do using the free version of Traffic Travis anyway).

      Added to this that the rank tracker isn't working for me either, then there is little reason to use the software at all.

      And given that the MS team have said that they are now looking to provide competition analysis through using Bing means that the software will become completely redundant. Bing and Google are very different. I make my money via Google.
      You're right, sentient. The Bing vs. Google Title and URL data is a legitimate concern. However, I still believe the jury is out here, and it is far from a closed case that MS is a dead duck.

      Consider that the keywords numbers we work with are all relative anyway. Hence, if MS gets Title and URL keyword data from Bing, that will still provide the relative data needed to do initial screening. Only time and some testing will tell, but I just don't see the MS situation as being all that dire.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clojo
    Am I missing something. I am getting total local monthly searchs and possible number of clicks if ranked number one. Also in title and url is in the SEO matrix. Have I misunderstood what the problem with MS is. It seems to work fine for me?

    I am concerned as I have just bought it and don't want to think that the results that it is sending me, are not all that accurate, there by making me target a keyword which isn't going to rank!
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    • Profile picture of the author sentient
      Originally Posted by Clojo View Post

      Am I missing something. I am getting total local monthly searchs and possible number of clicks if ranked number one. Also in title and url is in the SEO matrix. Have I misunderstood what the problem with MS is. It seems to work fine for me?

      I am concerned as I have just bought it and don't want to think that the results that it is sending me, are not all that accurate, there by making me target a keyword which isn't going to rank!
      Are you sure that you're using the latest version? v0.87.41 has the SEOTC and SEOURL removed.
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      • Profile picture of the author Clojo
        Yes. V 0.87.41. You are talking about the keyword in title and url in the SEO COMPETITION matrix? Is that right? I would post a screen shot but am having problems with my server.
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        • Profile picture of the author sentient
          Originally Posted by Clojo View Post

          Yes. V 0.87.41. You are talking about the keyword in title and url in the SEO COMPETITION matrix? Is that right? I would post a screen shot but am having problems with my server.
          No, I'm talking about the SEOTC and URL in the keyword research module. If I've got hundreds of keywords, the only way I can start to see which maybe viable is to look at the in title and in url. Once I have got those down to a manageable amount I use the SEO Competition matrix.

          With regards to the keywords, Keyword Sniper pro could give you thousands of keywords if you kept digging. I think they are more likely to be lower volume search wise (if you plug them into MS and count the search volume that way), but you do pick up some gems.

          My problem with just using the ones that MS generates, even if there are 800, is that they are the same 800 that everyone else who is using the google keyword tool is coming up with. You can certainly still find reasonable keywords this way, but I prefer to not chase all the ones that everone else is.
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          • Profile picture of the author Clojo
            Originally Posted by sentient View Post

            No, I'm talking about the SEOTC and URL in the keyword research module. If I've got hundreds of keywords, the only way I can start to see which maybe viable is to look at the in title and in url. Once I have got those down to a manageable amount I use the SEO Competition matrix.

            With regards to the keywords, Keyword Sniper pro could give you thousands of keywords if you kept digging. I think they are more likely to be lower volume search wise (if you plug them into MS and count the search volume that way), but you do pick up some gems.

            My problem with just using the ones that MS generates, even if there are 800, is that they are the same 800 that everyone else who is using the google keyword tool is coming up with. You can certainly still find reasonable keywords this way, but I prefer to not chase all the ones that everone else is.
            Thanks sentient, that makes sense. I will have a look at keyword sniper pro. I am still finding MS very useful though. It maybe that I am just a newbie, but some of the keywords I am looking at showing good search volumes and not so much competition, which I can see from the SEO matrix, which I haven't been able to see before without this tool. Maybe there are better ones? The only thing that I am finding throwing things out is the difference between Yahoo and Majestic in the backlink profile. Is there something more accurate which is free? I can't afford the monthly fee at the moment.
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            • Profile picture of the author sentient
              Originally Posted by Clojo View Post

              Thanks sentient, that makes sense. I will have a look at keyword sniper pro. I am still finding MS very useful though. It maybe that I am just a newbie, but some of the keywords I am looking at showing good search volumes and not so much competition, which I can see from the SEO matrix, which I haven't been able to see before without this tool. Maybe there are better ones? The only thing that I am finding throwing things out is the difference between Yahoo and Majestic in the backlink profile. Is there something more accurate which is free? I can't afford the monthly fee at the moment.
              I agree that the competition matrix is very useful.

              Not sure on the Yahoo / Majestic difference. You could download the free version of Traffic Travis, and run the competition module there, and compare it to MS. It is very similar to the MS competition matrix, but it shows the top twenty results, rather than the top ten.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    SEOTC not working anymore is extremely bad. If there was ONE interesting value it was SEOTC....so now the most important value is gone...
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  • Profile picture of the author simonbuzz
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    I have found a new good tool...but haven't tried it yet...." Keyword Sniper Pro" you can search on this forum
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  • Profile picture of the author ynotbluey
    Damn I only purchased this last month. It was slow loading but worth the wait. Will check out the other tools mentioned in this thread
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  • Profile picture of the author Clojo
    I got to say, even though it has it's pitfalls, I still find MS incredibly useful.
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  • Profile picture of the author honed
    I need to stop buying software for a while. I thought that it was just me. Maybe I'll stick to online tools like Raven.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnJD
      I'm so confused right now... I don't know if I should wait or should I buy MS. Right now I'm using the trial and following their training videos, I find it very frustrating because it's very SLOW! Also I'm not sure if I'm doing anything wrong because no matter what niche I choose I can never find a microniche that meets their criteria of SEOC 30000. I don't know if all the good niches are already taken or MS is just not pulling their keywords correctly...

      So right now I don't know if I should buy MS after my trial expires... Or should I get a different program like Micro Niche finder? Any suggestions?
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      • Profile picture of the author Yellowcake
        Originally Posted by JohnJD View Post

        I'm so confused right now... I don't know if I should wait or should I buy MS. Right now I'm using the trial and following their training videos, I find it very frustrating because it's very SLOW! Also I'm not sure if I'm doing anything wrong because no matter what niche I choose I can never find a microniche that meets their criteria of SEOC 30000. I don't know if all the good niches are already taken or MS is just not pulling their keywords correctly...

        So right now I don't know if I should buy MS after my trial expires... Or should I get a different program like Micro Niche finder? Any suggestions?
        I absolutely have to agree John. I spent three hours last night just throwing random keywords at MS. The SEOC value of 30,000 literally threw the whole lot out. Now is this because I'm simply targeting over poplulated niches (I doubt it), or is there a problem with MS.

        Interestingly, the example niche used on the training videos is 'dog training' which is mega saturated. I can't anywhere near the statistical data that the bloke in the videos got.

        No keywords I selected on a wide range of subjects got anywhere near the 30,000 SEOC - and some were pretty obscure. Is it this 30,000 figure that's a red herring? I tried upping it to 50,000 but that didn't make much difference. Those that crept under the radar were then thrown out by the SEO competition module (Too much RED!)

        Look guys I'm not bleating here. If I've just picked a load of random keywords that happen to be popular then so be it. Rome wasn't built in a day. But I'm just feeling really quirky at the moment about the accuracy of MS data.

        Cheers

        ps. Only purchased MS two days ago. Just not feeling any confidence from it.

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        • Profile picture of the author airallineed
          Originally Posted by Yellowcake View Post

          I absolutely have to agree John. I spent three hours last night just throwing random keywords at MS. The SEOC value of 30,000 literally threw the whole lot out. Now is this because I'm simply targeting over poplulated niches (I doubt it), or is there a problem with MS.

          Interestingly, the example niche used on the training videos is 'dog training' which is mega saturated. I can't anywhere near the statistical data that the bloke in the videos got.

          No keywords I selected on a wide range of subjects got anywhere near the 30,000 SEOC - and some were pretty obscure. Is it this 30,000 figure that's a red herring? I tried upping it to 50,000 but that didn't make much difference. Those that crept under the radar were then thrown out by the SEO competition module (Too much RED!)

          Look guys I'm not bleating here. If I've just picked a load of random keywords that happen to be popular then so be it. Rome wasn't built in a day. But I'm just feeling really quirky at the moment about the accuracy of MS data.

          Cheers

          ps. Only purchased MS two days ago. Just not feeling any confidence from it.

          Yellowcake
          I agree Yellowcake, if MS will be useless in a couple of days i want my money back This would be simply a rip-off in my eyes... or should i call it bad luck? :rolleyes:
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          After using the trial version for some time, I finally decided to buy and then immediately there were problems. What is their refund policy?
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      • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
        Originally Posted by JohnJD View Post

        I'm so confused right now... I don't know if I should wait or should I buy MS. Right now I'm using the trial and following their training videos, I find it very frustrating because it's very SLOW! Also I'm not sure if I'm doing anything wrong because no matter what niche I choose I can never find a microniche that meets their criteria of SEOC 30000. I don't know if all the good niches are already taken or MS is just not pulling their keywords correctly...

        So right now I don't know if I should buy MS after my trial expires... Or should I get a different program like Micro Niche finder? Any suggestions?
        Yes MS is very, very slow. Add a few hundred of keywords in and it gets painfully slow. Let alone a few thousand.

        SEO < 30.000 is silly. 30.000 is an ultra tiny niche, i always used < 64.000 SEOT....heck even < 80.000 SEOT is still usually a good keyword, easy to rank.
        SEOC is way too fuzzy and not precise enough to make an even REMOTE assumption about ranking possiblity . Thats why i said the most important value was SEOT, i never ever cared about SEOC.

        So right now, the only value i have from this tool is "search volume" since i cannot even find good niches anymore with SEOT missing.

        (By the way right RIGHT NOW i am trying to get rank data [i do this every day] and its just hanging there and doesn't finish....MS has really become a pain to work with recently)
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      • Profile picture of the author east_coast_alex
        Originally Posted by JohnJD View Post

        I'm so confused right now... I don't know if I should wait or should I buy MS. Right now I'm using the trial and following their training videos, I find it very frustrating because it's very SLOW! Also I'm not sure if I'm doing anything wrong because no matter what niche I choose I can never find a microniche that meets their criteria of SEOC 30000. I don't know if all the good niches are already taken or MS is just not pulling their keywords correctly...

        So right now I don't know if I should buy MS after my trial expires... Or should I get a different program like Micro Niche finder? Any suggestions?
        John, I understand your frustration. I've found that keyword research is generally the most time consuming and frustrating part of internet marketing. It is also the most important.

        The problem with MS is that it is a very technical tool that takes some study and practice to master. However, once you put in the time, the tool will become more intuitive to you. Watch the videos and take notes and work out a process based on the videos.

        Regarding the target of 30,000 SEOC, this is a guideline. In the Noble Samurai system, they are saying this is the ideal competition level. However, if I am not finding good keywords at that setting, I generally just turn it off (just click the minus sign) and sort on the competition. That allows you to make your own decision about what's viable.

        Hope that helps a bit.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoWizzard
    Last time I checked, MS was working ok.

    As for the low keyword results, that's just because it is using only google keyword tool... there are tons of other keyword softwares that are getting a lot more results from various other sources (not just google) and can literally provide lists of over 5000 keywords related to a niche... now if you'd run that through MS you would end up with a few hundred low competition and searched keywords that you can target, compared to the usual 10 or less.
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  • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
    The only reason I use MarketSamurai is to check the competition.. there are several free ways you can get an accurate check of how many searches it gets.
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  • Profile picture of the author montozza
    i am still using MS...works fine for me...so far
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    • Profile picture of the author SEOpsychic
      Originally Posted by montozza View Post

      i am still using MS...works fine for me...so far
      then maybe you're doing anti-SEO. or nothing to do with SEO at all! right?
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    • Profile picture of the author SEOpsychic
      Originally Posted by montozza View Post

      i am still using MS...works fine for me...so far
      what do you think are the essentials of keyword research or maybe you're using it for something else other than SEO?
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  • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
    the PR side of things doesnt return full results either , often only giving up 15-45 backlinks when theres more than 1000 , which is a bummer as thats a big one of my services that i now need to find an alternative for
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  • Profile picture of the author danlew
    Here are a list of other alternatives:
    - Micro Niche Finder
    - SEO Elite
    - SECockpit
    - Keyword Winner
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnJD
    I'm starting to believe the problem of " lack of keywords" on MS meeting the criteria of 30000 SEOC is because we need to add an adwords account to MS, thus increasing the keyword results up to 800 , without an adwords account you only get 100 keywords. Can anyone confirm if this is correct?

    Still not sure if I should rush to buy MS once the trial expires... Also the OCI tab is not working right now..
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    • Profile picture of the author sentient
      Originally Posted by JohnJD View Post

      I'm starting to believe the problem of " lack of keywords" on MS meeting the criteria of 30000 SEOC is because we need to add an adwords account to MS, thus increasing the keyword results up to 800 , without an adwords account you only get 100 keywords. Can anyone confirm if this is correct?

      Still not sure if I should rush to buy MS once the trial expires... Also the OCI tab is not working right now..
      Yes, you need have MS use your adwords account id to get the full range of keywords. The latest MS update apparantly also corrects the volumes showing in SEOC, so if you update and add your adwords account you might start to get better results.

      I would look for other sources to generate your keywords from in addition to MS though, because you are going to be chasing the same keywords as everyone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
    I purchased the MS yesterday and after reading this thread I am some what scared, am I getting this right that the MS is no longer of any value or use if so where does that leave my $90 something dollars.

    What exactly are you all basing that MS is useless on besides the OP having issues, will I get my money back if needed please could someone let me know, this is the first I have heard about the MS being uselss anywhere before.


    I have added my Adwords account and I am getting plenty of Keywords back, but clearly there must be other problems based on how many members have left comments on here, I will only be using the MS for keyword for my business's only nothing else.

    Lee
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
    Would anyone care to elaborate on MS not working still please, as mentioned I have just purchased it and am slightly worried.

    Lee
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  • Profile picture of the author sentient
    MS still works, it's just that some of it's key features (SEOTC and SEOURL) are no longer available. This makes it a lot more difficult to narrow down keywords to a reasonable amount because it is now difficult to assess their genuine competiveness (SEOC doesn't really help too much in this area).

    There have also been issues with regards to the speed of the software, and it throwing up incorrect information (differening amount of backlinks, rank tracker displaying clearly incorrect results etc).

    So it depends how you use it. I just use it now for keyword volume count and assessing the competitiveness of the top ten for a particular keyword. I use other tools to assess competiveness of a bunch of keywords and for keyword generation.

    Would I buy it now? Probably not. However, I've had it a couple of years, and I've certainly had my money's worth out of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
      Originally Posted by sentient View Post

      MS still works, it's just that some of it's key features (SEOTC and SEOURL) are no longer available. This makes it a lot more difficult to narrow down keywords to a reasonable amount because it is now difficult to assess their genuine competiveness (SEOC doesn't really help too much in this area).

      There have also been issues with regards to the speed of the software, and it throwing up incorrect information (differening amount of backlinks, rank tracker displaying clearly incorrect results etc).

      So it depends how you use it. I just use it now for keyword volume count and assessing the competitiveness of the top ten for a particular keyword. I use other tools to assess competiveness of a bunch of keywords and for keyword generation.

      Would I buy it now? Probably not. However, I've had it a couple of years, and I've certainly had my money's worth out of it.

      Wow I just purchased this yesterday as well do not looking to good, the funny thing is I normaly look around before buying things such as this, however based on MS past reputation I thought it was ok use.

      So now I ask myself is it worth trying to ask for a refund, do you think I would get it or told to keep thinking, also I only need this for optimizing my business's websites, so I am relying on the keyword feature 100%.

      p.s

      I do not even know what the (SEOTC and SEOURL) is or what it does, is it something that I will need for keyword research, if so then would you be kind enough to let me know if I may perhaps get a refund from them.


      Lee
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      • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
        Got to admit that the loss of SEOTC and SEOURL is a biggie for me and I hope it is only temporary. Just knowing how many pages are indexed for a certain keyword only tells you a small part of the story when assessing competition.

        Knowing how many pages are optimised in terms of title and URL are essential and I hope they find a solution soon.

        I do feel sorry for the guys at noble samurai at the moment though. They are reacting to a great number of changes by Google and this just highlights that Google are on the warpath with scraping of their index. It also shoes how difficult it is to stay on top of this when you have a piece of software.
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        • Profile picture of the author sentient
          Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

          Got to admit that the loss of SEOTC and SEOURL is a biggie for me and I hope it is only temporary. Just knowing how many pages are indexed for a certain keyword only tells you a small part of the story when assessing competition.

          Knowing how many pages are optimised in terms of title and URL are essential and I hope they find a solution soon.

          I do feel sorry for the guys at noble samurai at the moment though. They are reacting to a great number of changes by Google and this just highlights that Google are on the warpath with scraping of their index. It also shoes how difficult it is to stay on top of this when you have a piece of software.
          Hi Steve

          The strange thing is, it is still possible for a tool to be able to obtain that information.

          http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-page-1-a.html for example does it (I'm not affiliated with it in anyway, however do use it). Although it will take a while if you wanted to do a lot of keywords at once. I try and restrict it to about 30.

          Obviously I don't know about the technical side of MS, but it does make me wonder if one tool can do it, why can't MS?

          The only reason I can think of why they have dropped it is because of the server problems they were having, and by dropping them they no longer will have those issues.

          However, that is only a guess, and I have no real evidence to back it up (other than they were having lots of server issues, and then they removed these features and mentioned on their blog that by removing them MS should be faster).
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  • Profile picture of the author sentient
    Hi Lee

    I don't really want to give you advice on what you should and shouldn't do, that's really up to you to weigh up the options based on your research.

    As I stated, MS does work, it's just a couple of the key features are no longer there. You can still do these manually. Just go into Google and put:

    Allintitle:keyword (Instead of SEOTC)

    Allinurl:keyword (Instead of SEOURL)

    This just means that if you have several hundred keywords it's going to take you a while to go through each one.

    SEOTC / allintitle is basically telling you how many web pages mention all of the keywords in their page title

    SEOURL / allinurl will similarly tell you how many web pages have the specified keywords in their url

    The above two methods are good way of giving you an idea of how many other web pages are targetting your particular keywords.

    Allinanchor is another useful one

    The one bit of advice I would give is to learn about keyword research so that you can build up an idea of what is likely to work or not. Which will involve building up and understanding of what all in title etc mean.

    This will probably mean a lot of trial and error (well it did for me!), and some failures along the way.

    The top ten google results analysis of a keyword is really the main bit, because these are the main sites that you need to beat to get to the number 1 spot. I just use the allintitle etc to narrow down my keywords to realistic ones.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
      Originally Posted by sentient View Post

      Hi Lee

      I don't really want to give you advice on what you should and shouldn't do, that's really up to you to weigh up the options based on your research.

      As I stated, MS does work, it's just a couple of the key features are no longer there. You can still do these manually. Just go into Google and put:

      Allintitle:keyword (Instead of SEOTC)

      Allinurl:keyword (Instead of SEOURL)

      This just means that if you have several hundred keywords it's going to take you a while to go through each one.

      SEOTC / allintitle is basically telling you how many web pages mention all of the keywords in their page title

      SEOURL / allinurl will similarly tell you how many web pages have the specified keywords in their url

      The above two methods are good way of giving you an idea of how many other web pages are targetting your particular keywords.

      Allinanchor is another useful one

      The one bit of advice I would give is to learn about keyword research so that you can build up an idea of what is likely to work or not. Which will involve building up and understanding of what all in title etc mean.

      This will probably mean a lot of trial and error (well it did for me!), and some failures along the way.

      The top ten google results analysis of a keyword is really the main bit, because these are the main sites that you need to beat to get to the number 1 spot. I just use the allintitle etc to narrow down my keywords to realistic ones.

      Hi

      Thanks for getting back to me I shall use the methods you mentioned, very kind of you to help me out with the advice thanks, I have created a support ticket mentioning that I would like a refund, based on they have already pointed out on thier blog it's not working, if I do get the refund have you any suggestions as to which would be the best to purchase.

      Lee
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
    What is the MS customer service like because I have contacted them but not getting anything back has been a couple of hours now, also when you mention to check the keywords using the llintitle:keyword (Instead of SEOTC) Allinurl:keyword (Instead of SEOURL).

    I do not even know when I would need to use this method because all the MS videos are outdated and I am just left clueless now, with things not working and the guy talking about options and settings which are not even on my MS.


    Lee
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    • Profile picture of the author sentient
      Originally Posted by Lee789 View Post

      What is the MS customer service like because I have contacted them but not getting anything back has been a couple of hours now, also when you mention to check the keywords using the llintitle:keyword (Instead of SEOTC) Allinurl:keyword (Instead of SEOURL).

      I do not even know when I would need to use this method because all the MS videos are outdated and I am just left clueless now, with things not working and the guy talking about options and settings which are not even on my MS.


      Lee
      I'd be patient. They are based in Australia I think, so it's going to be very early morning for them. I wouldn't be suprised if they have a lot of support tickets at the moment too.

      I'd give them 48 hours to respond, I think a couple of hours is too quick to expect a response.
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      • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
        Originally Posted by sentient View Post

        I'd be patient. They are based in Australia I think, so it's going to be very early morning for them. I wouldn't be suprised if they have a lot of support tickets at the moment too.

        I'd give them 48 hours to respond, I think a couple of hours is too quick to expect a response.
        Ok thanks for letting me know, to be honest I would use your method if I only know what it all meant and when to start the process, just very tricky at the moment because the videos are slightly out dated so everythings a blur right now, again thanks for helping me means a lot nice one.

        Knowing my luck I will not get the refund and then I am screwed, because will never be able to work the thing out or anything.

        Lee
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  • Profile picture of the author minisite
    I've read so many good things about MS at this forum that I went ahead and downloaded the trial version. However, but the results that I was getting was very slow and analyzing the viability of the targeted keyword is gone. So now I'm in the process of searching for a good alternative software that has the same feature.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
      Originally Posted by minisite View Post

      I've read so many good things about MS at this forum that I went ahead and downloaded the trial version. However, but the results that I was getting was very slow and analyzing the viability of the targeted keyword is gone. So now I'm in the process of searching for a good alternative software that has the same feature.

      Join the club and I just purchased it so have to wait for a refund, there have been quite a few mentioned above you can take a look at.

      Lee
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  • Profile picture of the author KateD
    Anyone else having trouble getting the OCI values to show?

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  • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
    I got the refund so now just need to work out whats worth investing in, because I need something to grab decent keywords.

    Lee
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    • Profile picture of the author King Louie
      Yes... Market Samurai seems slow nowadays. I wait for several minutes for the keywords to generate and all I get is an error message. I don't know if it's something to do with the changes at Google. I'm now considering other keyword tools such as Traffic Travis.
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    SEOTC was kind of nice, but definitely not critical for me. In my opinion, MS is still quite a useful keyword tool.

    I can't believe some of you are just uninstalling and letting it go. I don't know what the rules are about it, but want to give me your registration keys at a deep discount? Hell, you're just throwing it away anyway! :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author asim566
    agree.................
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
    Guys you need to realise that I purchased the MS tool two days ago, not knowing what a single thing did only to find on the MS blog that lots of settings have been deleted, then I find the videos are all outdated based on learning how to use it, lastly I stumble across a thread and read some comments with members not happy with it's performance.

    Needless to say it has been pretty tough just trying to work out what the hell to do from here, I am tempted to re purchase it, however based on the videos being outdated and teaching you things which are not even on the updated MS, it's a slightly daunting prospect.

    Lee
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  • Profile picture of the author broncoe
    Hello,



    just wanted to say that reading all these posts here, a person can get the feeling that the MS is the worst software out there. That is not true at all. Even with the two features deleted this software can still give you all the necessary information for a thorough market/niche analysis.



    And if the SEOTC is really that big of an indicator for you than just do the google search with allintitle: and you can see the results there.



    eg.: SEOTC: allintitle:internet marketing for begginers (you get the results how many times this phrase has been used in the title)


    regards
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
      Originally Posted by broncoe View Post

      Hello,



      just wanted to say that reading all these posts here, a person can get the feeling that the MS is the worst software out there. That is not true at all. Even with the two features deleted this software can still give you all the necessary information for a thorough market/niche analysis.



      And if the SEOTC is really that big of an indicator for you than just do the google search with allintitle: and you can see the results there.



      eg.: SEOTC: allintitle:internet marketing for begginers (you get the results how many times this phrase has been used in the title)


      regards
      I only need keywords for my already created business's, also you mention about just adding the allintitle:, however doing this on 700 something keywords would be slightly daunting right !!
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      • Profile picture of the author broncoe
        I have to agree with you, but what I wanted to say in the first place is that you shouldn’t hold on to SEO title competition so much. There are better ways to determine competition then SEOTC.

        Have a nice day!
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        • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
          Originally Posted by broncoe View Post

          I have to agree with you, but what I wanted to say in the first place is that you shouldn't hold on to SEO title competition so much. There are better ways to determine competition then SEOTC.

          Have a nice day!

          After talking with some members who I am now friends with, I have re purchased the MS based on as you mentioned, there are otherways to use this fantastic tool, also MS will get round to fixing it because they are pretty much the #1 on the market.

          Lee
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          • Profile picture of the author Cisco
            Sort of related...

            razztek has a MS guide called Market Samurai secrets 2.0

            I just bought, looks good. Some good reviews from other warriors.

            I am not affiliated with razztek. Just a pass along of some potentially profitable info
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            • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
              Originally Posted by Cisco View Post

              Sort of related...

              razztek has a MS guide called Market Samurai secrets 2.0

              I just bought, looks good. Some good reviews from other warriors.

              I am not affiliated with razztek. Just a pass along of some potentially profitable info

              Yes but not if it's based on the settings which no longer exist, or are not working on the MS you may want to check that.

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  • Profile picture of the author NatGreen
    has anyone checked out SECockpit yet? I think it is only being sold on webinars right now, but it looks super good. It pulls most of the info from SEMoz and had a good competition analysis tool from what I could tell. Definitely want to give it a whirl,especially after MS has crapped out.
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    • Profile picture of the author Croz
      I just noticed that no matter what I do, for some reason, MS can't pull up OCI.

      Everything else works fine. It's just the OCI that's a problem.

      Anyone experiencing the same same issue?
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      • Profile picture of the author Clojo
        Originally Posted by Croz View Post

        I just noticed that no matter what I do, for some reason, MS can't pull up OCI.

        Everything else works fine. It's just the OCI that's a problem.

        Anyone experiencing the same same issue?
        Yes I am experiencing the same thing. I also don't get any trends data?
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  • Profile picture of the author Deviatore
    Yeah exactly, thats what I get often when I had downloaded a trial version of MS. I finally decided its better to leave it.
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  • Profile picture of the author chengnuomima
    Market Samurai now closed their support forum
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
      Originally Posted by chengnuomima View Post

      Market Samurai now closed their support forum

      It's open for me right now, perhaps you should clear your cookies or something, then try and log back in to the support.


      Lee
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  • Profile picture of the author socialbookmark
    I left MS and don't use it more. It was helpful for me some months ago but now its not useful at all for me and i don't use it more.
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    • Profile picture of the author SEOpsychic
      Originally Posted by chengnuomima View Post

      Market Samurai now closed their support forum
      so i guessed right
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  • Profile picture of the author y2kam
    I use Traffic Travis.. it is simple and free
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  • Profile picture of the author fortony
    I wrote them and they said they are working on restoring the competition data. They did not say they were certainly going to do it though...

    Without it, MS really loses a lot of its value and it not worth it. However, my experience with MS is that they generally keep on top of things so my guess is that the functions really will come back.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrfusion
      MS is still solid software, and I still use it often. It's still great as part of your kw research arsenal.
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  • Profile picture of the author denharsh
    I was about to buy MS but glad I bumped in here.. For now, I will postpone it and will wait for an update..Lets see if they can fix everything....
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    • Profile picture of the author jimgk
      i just got free verison and was gonna buy it too - good thread.


      Originally Posted by denharsh View Post

      I was about to buy MS but glad I bumped in here.. For now, I will postpone it and will wait for an update..Lets see if they can fix everything....
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  • Profile picture of the author jimgk
    email i rcvd yesterday from MS ...
    Hi Jim,
    Thanks for your email.
    We have had some issues following Google's latest Keyword Tool updates that have prevented Market Samurai from correctly collecting data.
    We have now updated Market Samurai to bring it into line with the latest version of the Keyword Tool.
    You can now update Market Samurai to the latest version.
    I have also reset your trial to ensure you have time to test out the latest version of Market Samurai.
    Cheers,
    Alex Green
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    • Profile picture of the author schmutly
      Well its 10pm,4th June 2011 and this is Market Samurai
      screen grab:
      So data appears to be in there AND the SEOTC etc is still taken from Google.
      Though it all seems intact it is STILL slow, even 1.5 Yrs later...i hope they get
      THIS part better.
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Market Samurai is a well liked product, I'm sure it can be easily fixed
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  • Profile picture of the author xtx361
    i am currently using trail version of MS (version 0.87.64), i have gone through entire thread over here, main dissatisfaction point everyone has raised about non availability of SEOTC and SEOUC which is again available in MS. Another point was on keyword research which is supported by Google keyword research, i am not sure what was supported earlier, so what is suggestion buy or not to buy?
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  • Profile picture of the author cagliostro
    MS is not what used to be. Also painfully SLOW.
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  • Profile picture of the author rauff
    better check with support they might help you
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  • Profile picture of the author dirtyhair
    i still think MS is great software and i use it on a daily basis but i guess you just now need to look around for a good research alternative. for the $100 it costs you, even with it's current bugs the amount of time it will save you will pay its way
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