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13 years ago

Do-follow increase your link power and PR in long run, however a no-follow from a high traffic page increases the chances of visitors clicking your link resulting in increased conversions (it depends if they convert).
I like it short & precise

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John Williamson

13 years ago

I prefer to get both types, not really because it looks 'natural' as everyone preaches, but more because I'm of the mind that nofollow links are not completely worthless. Many, however, think they are worthless, and to that I say "More links for me..."

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BacklinkExcellence

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MarkSveik

High quality links with no regard to follow/no follow rules, or just a boatload of follow links (with perhaps lower quality PR)?

Boatload of "follow" links > high quality links that contain a lot of nofollow.

The "experts" claiming that you shouldn't worry about do/nofollow just keep spreading this misinformation so they get easier rankings and the rest of the herd just follows and re-iterates what they've read instead of just testing it themselves. Sounds like a conspiracy but I've seen this happen over and over again. Neither does a nofollow link pass any PR or ranking value, nor does it help with passing anchor text. It can be great though to get traffic/human visitors.

Yes, Yahoo and Bing might think differently about nofollow but are you trying to rank there or in Google? Probably the latter, since it holds the vast majority of traffic. Of course it would be stupid to ignore Y/B but still, you'll be focusing the bulk of your efforts on getting to rank in G.

It's debatable if a mix of do/nofollow makes your link profile look more "natural" and this debate will probably never end so without taking sides I'll just say what works for me and my clients: Concentrating on "dofollow" as much as possible.

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Mike Grant

13 years ago

Originally Posted by BacklinkExcellence

Boatload of "follow" links > high quality links that contain a lot of nofollow.

The "experts" claiming that you shouldn't worry about do/nofollow just keep spreading this misinformation so they get easier rankings and the rest of the herd just follows and re-iterates what they've read instead of just testing it themselves. Sounds like a conspiracy but I've seen this happen over and over again. Neither does a nofollow link pass any PR or ranking value, nor does it help with passing anchor text. It can be great though to get traffic/human visitors.

Yes, Yahoo and Bing might think differently about nofollow but are you trying to rank there or in Google? Probably the latter, since it holds the vast majority of traffic. Of course it would be stupid to ignore Y/B but still, you'll be focusing the bulk of your efforts on getting to rank in G.

It's debatable if a mix of do/nofollow makes your link profile look more "natural" and this debate will probably never end so without taking sides I'll just say what works for me and my clients: Concentrating on "dofollow" as much as possible.

Nofollow links don't pass "ranking value"? Lol, now that's a first.

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BacklinkExcellence

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Grant

Nofollow links don't pass "ranking value"? Lol, now that's a first.

Just test it yourself. Slap up a new site and hammer it with nofollow links, nothing is going to happen. You might dance but the site won't settle in at higher positions.

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Mike Grant

13 years ago

Originally Posted by BacklinkExcellence

Just test it yourself. Slap up a new site and hammer it with nofollow links, nothing is going to happen. You might dance but the site won't settle in at higher positions.

I have tried it and they have worked.

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TBInternetMarketing 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Grant

I have tried it and they have worked.

I think what the OP was looking for was some experience from anyone that has tried it and the above is exactly the answer everyone here is looking for. I know I sure was

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- paulgl 13 years ago
  
  When the talk about nofollow comes up, people start talking about
  "value" and then the crazyness starts. There is value. No doubt.
  
  But bing/yahoo readily recognize the tag, so not sure why people still
  think otherwise.
  
  nofollow has nothing to do with anything except passing PR. That's it.
  
  It has nothing to do with value, being seen, or indexed. Twitter is an
  example of a place with nofollow that can be golden.
  
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Mike Anthony 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Grant

I have tried it and they have worked.

You say that all the time and then run away when asked for proof. go ahead show us the site thats ranking on nofollow links. Can't or won't do it then its just talk. The conspiracy theorists that google is lying about not following the links have the burden of proof.
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sgsmorgan

13 years ago

Originally Posted by BacklinkExcellence

Just test it yourself. Slap up a new site and hammer it with nofollow links, nothing is going to happen. You might dance but the site won't settle in at higher positions.

Sadly there have been too many exercise that have shown just this. One by a fairly well respected IM Marketer actually showed that useing just nothing but nofollow links to a selection of keyphrases took them to No 1 in Google.

The trouble is that Google have skewed the landscape so badly and gerrymandered it beyond belief that in an attempt to make their sites "google slap proff" all sorts of sites suddenly made their outbound links "nofollow". Does this make the links coming from these sites suddenly worthless overnight? I don't think so either.

I found a PR 4 Nofollow link last Tuesday, created two links and imagine my surprise when I found it amongst the backlinks report for the site in question in Webmaster Tools of all places by Friday!

The mantra following the Panda Update has to be "Quality" and "Variety" above everything else in all areas. So more quality content and links and much more variety in the number and range of Back Links.

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Mike Anthony

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sgsmorgan

Sadly there have been too many exercise that have shown just this. One by a fairly well respected IM Marketer actually showed that useing just nothing but nofollow links to a selection of keyphrases took them to No 1 in Google.

this has been hashed on this board at least ten times in the last year.Almost every study I have seen on this has been bogus and the study did not look at all the backlinks . People will follow backlinks and that some times does lead to natural backlinks.

the consensus among SEO professionals wis without question except in Internet marketers. Multiple tests including the now abandoned practice of link sculpting have shown that nofollowed links do not work for ranking and the tag works pretty much as it is designed to.

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minisite

13 years ago

Use both NoFollow and DoFollow so your link looks natural to the Big G. But there is no harm in doing more DoFollow links than NoFollow links.

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Diane S

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MarkSveik

What is the final verdict on follow vs no follow backlinks (if one exists)?

There is no consensus, nor will there ever be. Test for yourself and draw your own conclusions, then act accordingly.

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BacklinkExcellence 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Diane S

There is no consensus, nor will there ever be. Test for yourself and draw your own conclusions, then act accordingly.

Yeah, this is really the answer to this thread. Thanks Diane.
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yukon

Banned 13 years ago

I have wikipedia nofollow backlinks that kick a$$!

As far as seo, I wouldn't trade my free wiki links for anything!

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Mike Anthony 13 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I have wikipedia nofollow backlinks that kick a$$!

As far as seo, I wouldn't trade my free wiki links for anything!

Sorry Yukon same goes for you too. prove it. you have the burden of proof. What I will say is that getting links on wikipedia will give you a higher awareness and others will link to you because they perceive you as an authority site.
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jbhyip

13 years ago

Get both. I still have not come across a bad backlink.

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AlexSafie

13 years ago

If a link is no follow then Google bots will not follow it, a program is a program it does what the algorithm says, nothing more and nothing less, and you will not get any benefit from that link in terms of ranking.

But if that link is in a high traffic site then you might get visitors from it.

So it's true, there are no bad backlinks.

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