Got hit hard.. Google dance?

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Well as of yesterday I dropped from 1st and 2nd ranked pages for all of my 6-7 keywords out of top 100. I was really surprised and just wow'd...

I have been building backlinks steadily, I got several PR9-PR10 and plenty PR4-PR6.

My specific niche review site is about 5 weeks old, so I'm guessing this is the infamous google dance, how soon should I expect to make it back to where I was?

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  • Profile picture of the author John Williamson
    Hard to tell, usually not too long. Just keep building links and it'll pop back up.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    That's a real kick in the crotch!

    Are you sure those PR9-10 backlinks are on the same page as your backlinks?
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris215
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      That's a real kick in the crotch!

      Are you sure those PR9-10 backlinks are on the same page as your backlinks?
      what do you mean by same page as my backlinks? For example, I have wikipedia, myspace, facebook, linkedin, reddit, aol etc.. that link to my site.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Chris215 View Post

        what do you mean by same page as my backlinks? For example, I have wikipedia, myspace, facebook, linkedin, reddit, aol etc.. that link to my site.
        The exact page that your backlink is on.

        A lot of guys around here think that PR on an Index page will be the same for all the internal pages, which it's not. PR = page rank, not entire site.

        Is your high PR on the exact same page as your backlinks?
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        • Profile picture of the author Chris215
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          The exact page that your backlink is on.

          A lot of guys around here think that PR on an Index page will be the same for all the internal pages, which it's not. PR = page rank, not entire site.

          Is your high PR on the exact same page as your backlinks?
          I just went through and checked most of them and for the majority yes, actually a few more than listed too.
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    • You'll be back, don't worry. I having a dance with one of my sites at the moment. I know it will be back though!
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  • Profile picture of the author BenJackson
    I just went through this with a new site of mine as well - also around 8 weeks in when it happened. I went from the 14th result to the 48th -> I recognize that this was my deserved rank at the time. The good news is that things become less volatile after this happens. About 2 weeks later and I'm up to # 11.

    Just keep building links.
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  • So that's what it is called a dance.

    I noticed that at times but I never really panicked and they would come back stronger. But as the domain ages it seemed to slow down and I have aged domains that rank higher than I would guess than they deserve. I'm not complaining....

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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    Wow some really nice traffic you're generating there!!

    3K unique visitors/day for a site that's only 8 weeks old? All from organic rankings? If that is so, congratulations!

    Also, for you to get such traffic, it has to be a high search volume keyword. Hopefully it is also one with high commercial intent and not just an informational kw

    I would just go on adding more content and backlinks. I have one site that danced for 2 years and then finally settled down with multiple top rankings. And then again, I have sites that don't dance at all. GOK (God Only Knows = Google Only Knows)

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris215
      Originally Posted by Chucky View Post

      Wow some really nice traffic you're generating there!!

      3K unique visitors/day for a site that's only 8 weeks old? All from organic rankings? If that is so, congratulations!

      Also, for you to get such traffic, it has to be a high search volume keyword. Hopefully it is also one with high commercial intent and not just an informational kw

      I would just go on adding more content and backlinks. I have one site that danced for 2 years and then finally settled down with multiple top rankings. And then again, I have sites that don't dance at all. GOK (God Only Knows = Google Only Knows)

      Good luck!
      Chucky
      Yes all organic from SEO, I was actually receiving about 2k/day UV after about a week so I was excited being my first site and I do have commercial intent as the product has not yet been released.

      Well I'll continue to build links and add content, but after checking today I think I dropped a bit more.. :/
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  • Profile picture of the author BenJackson
    Originally Posted by timbrownxy View Post

    I just went through this with a new mine site as well - also in about 8 weeks, when it happened. I went from the result of 14 to the 48th. I recognize that this was my range at the time deserved. The good news is that things become less volatile after this happens.
    Err...I understand that imitation is the highest form of flattery, but...

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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    People usually say "It'll be back stronger than before", I would sort of agree, except I would say it'll be back with a more realistic ranking than before. Especially if you had a spell on page one - you can eventually bounce back up to page 2 somewhere, which is probably more realistic considering the age and authority of your site/the page in question. Then the real SEO work begins, though that doesn't mean you need a BIG push to get back.

    Well, anyway, report back as to what happens, because people rarely do after these Google Dance threads so you never get a picture of what's really happening with other people.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris215
    thanks, I will report back as I see changes hopefully soon..
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    • Profile picture of the author iMikeDesigns
      One of my sites has also been doing this for about a year now. It started out strong on the first page but about a week later began jumping around and pretty much dissappearing for days at a time. The site is still doing this but its doesnt reach page 1 or 2 anymore. Wish I had the answer because even when my site was reaching page two I was making around $50 a day with it. Im thinking of trying to throw some .edu backlinks at it to see what happens. Anyone have any experience with that?
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke112346
    Ouch, how far down did it drop you?
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris215
      Originally Posted by Luke112346 View Post

      Ouch, how far down did it drop you?
      For all of my keywords I dropped from 1st-2nd page to anyone from 9+ pages.. ridiculous.
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  • Profile picture of the author Derek Salfen
    Been there buddy... keep linking to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author buckett
    Google Dance has often been used to describe the index update of the Google search engine. Google Dance is the constant changes in Google's algorithms for indexing and crawling sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author InTheMaking
    It's doing that with 3 of my sites that were getting me a good chunk of my traffic lol it sucks man.. I'm scared too lol if they don't bounce back up thats a good waste of a couple days time.
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  • Profile picture of the author pianochris
    They are great visitor stats. Personally I wouldn't worry about it if you can pull in those stats initially you'll be doing it again soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author digitalguy
    The name "Google Dance" was in the past used to describe the period that a major index update of the Google search engine are being implemented.
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    • Profile picture of the author jr1228
      How is your site looking today? I had a site bumped from page one to page six yesterday. This morning it is on page two. Moving back in the right direction!
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  • Profile picture of the author margaretrobles
    8 weeks? It seems that you ranked your keywords pretty fast. Are you doing some link buying? because you said you have a link back from PR9 or even PR10 (wow is this Google? lol) websites. But if your keywords doesn't came back in a week or two, probably you got penalized.
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    • Profile picture of the author JRCarson
      Just keep on keepin on....Look at THIS dance I've had ongoing with one of my sites. It just depends on the site, keyword, niche, etc...

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  • Profile picture of the author App Developers
    Just keep going. You should see it go back very soon!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris215
      Originally Posted by jr1228 View Post

      How is your site looking today? I had a site bumped from page one to page six yesterday. This morning it is on page two. Moving back in the right direction!
      3 day since and I haven't moved up one bit, actually might have dropped a couple more -_- so I'm just being patient and building couple backlinks/day. BTW how often should I post new content?

      Originally Posted by margaretrobles View Post

      8 weeks? It seems that you ranked your keywords pretty fast. Are you doing some link buying? because you said you have a link back from PR9 or even PR10 (wow is this Google? lol) websites. But if your keywords doesn't came back in a week or two, probably you got penalized.
      Oh wait, I made a mistake it's actually only about 5 WEEKS OLD. I registered the domain I think on Feb 23. I only bought 300 PR4-PR6 profile backlinks many of those have been indexed and the several PR8-PR10 I've build on my own are indexed (for example my link/content were used as a reference on wikipedia). I've ran my site through google penalty check and it seems fine.

      Originally Posted by JRCarson View Post

      Just keep on keepin on....Look at THIS dance I've had ongoing with one of my sites. It just depends on the site, keyword, niche, etc...

      Wow that's interesting, hmm we'll just have to wait and see..
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