HELP Someone!! My site was de-indexed from G this morning

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Here is my website : Reverse Phone Lookup | Top Rated Services Reviewed And Critiqued

PLEASE HELP SOMEONE!! Two weeks ago, I finished revamping my website ( because it had some type of G Trademark suppression penalty penalty and followed the advice of people on the Webmaster Central Forum. I then submitted a reconsideration request AND BAM!!! Today I woke up to this morning with a message on my WEBMASTER tools area :

"This site may be in violation of Google's quality guidelines. More Details
Pages on your site may not appear in Google search results pages due to violations of the Google webmaster guidelines. Please review our webmaster guidelines and modify your site so that it meets those guidelines. Once your site meets our guidelines, you can request reconsideration and we'll evaluate your site.
Submit a reconsideration request"

Then I checked.... my site is completely DE-indexed!!!! I am beating myself over the head as to what could have caused this NEW wrinkle . I checked my site against every point in the Google Quality Guidelines and every thing checks out OK. can someone please pinpoint what I did wrong ... I am ready to jump off a bridge!!

I have no outbound link page. In fact the only "DOFOLLOW" outbound link I have is to a Wikipedia article on the history of reverse lookups.
I have absolutely NO link partners.
Those incoming links were gathered through natural means...since I do a lot of OFF-INTERNET Private investigative work and promotions, I guess some people put my links on their sites ..... I have NO control over that.
I have very cognizant of the damage a webmaster can do to their own site bu link OUT to bad neighborhoods or do reciprocal exchanges SO I only have 1 "DOFOLLOWED" outbound link, which I mentioned above. The only other OUTbound links are all NOFOLLOWED.

As far as hacked? No I don't see any evidence of it.

I went LINE BY LINE -- THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THE GOOGLE QUALITY GUIDELINES HERE : Webmaster Guidelines - Webmaster Tools Help and I found my site to comply 100%, UNLESS I am missing something very blatant, that hopefully someone can pick out.

To deindex my site now is a pretty serious breach of Google Quality guidelines, that I may have committed. And it has to be something that seems deceptive, however, I for the life of me, can't pinpoint what I did to my site that is so deceptive to warrant a TOTAL de-indexing.

Please people I need as many eyeballs as possible trying to pinpoint what I did wrong.

Here is my sitemap:
http://.............../sitemap.xml
#deindexed #morning #site
  • Profile picture of the author skatir
    you use googe trademark and the effect was not becuase of the reconsideration request. usually it take few weeks untill the redress of your reconsideration request.
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    • Profile picture of the author hbsjcd3
      Originally Posted by skatir View Post

      you use googe trademark and the effect was not becuase of the reconsideration request. usually it take few weeks untill the redress of your reconsideration request.

      No , the trademark suppression penalty ( if its even called that) has nothing to do with using big G's trademark. It has to do with you own site's trademark meaning you site does not rank for its own domain name ( without the extension) and the name of your site's main product.

      I don't mean to confuse anyone but Forget about this trademark suppression penalty for now.

      My site is deindexed for some serious reason, which I cannot find. I looked at the G quality guidelines and my site checks out OK, unless I am missing something, that is deemed by big G as manipulative.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    It looks like the very type of review site that google hates. Am I wrong?

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    • Profile picture of the author hbsjcd3
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      It looks like the very type of review site that google hates. Am I wrong?

      Lee

      there many review sites.......... thousands of them that are indexed in G. So if they didn't like it it then my serp ranking would bad, BUT not reason to deindex. Deindex usually happens when there is a serious breach of their webmaster quality guidelines
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      • Profile picture of the author cashcow
        Originally Posted by webgains View Post

        If Google hates those review sites then why are there thousands upon thousands of them with top 10 rankings in thousands of different niches?
        I don't know, I was asking the question as I was under the impression that google did not care for the types of sites that reviewed products against each other like that for affiliate commissions and that perhaps a manual review would have gotten the OP de-indexed.

        It would be rather hard for google to pick them out algorithmically I think unless there was a template with a footprint.

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        • Profile picture of the author hbsjcd3
          Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

          I don't know, I was asking the question as I was under the impression that google did not care for the types of sites that reviewed products against each other like that for affiliate commissions and that perhaps a manual review would have gotten the OP de-indexed.

          It would be rather hard for google to pick them out algorithmically I think unless there was a template with a footprint.

          Lee

          I have 9 review type sites in different niches ..all review sites similar to the deindexed one. So its not that, trust me. In my 8 years of dealing with G's GOD-LIKE power I can tell you they don't easily de-index a site. They de-index because of a blatant attempt of the webmaster trying to "game the system" I for the life of me, can't pinpoint what I did wrong that could be construed as "manipulative" or "gaming" the system.... t

          thats why I am here trying is someone can please give my site an objective review why reviewing my site breaks any of their webmaster quality guideline rules:Webmaster Guidelines - Webmaster Tools Help
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Lim
    Ignore G and generate traffic from Y already.
    I seem have 40% of visitors from Y, M after got de-indexed by G for a certain website.
    G is consider, no iddea what is going on these day.
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    • Profile picture of the author hbsjcd3
      Originally Posted by game333 View Post

      Ignore G and generate traffic from Y already.
      I seem have 40% of visitors from Y, M after got de-indexed by G for a certain website.
      G is consider, no iddea what is going on these day.

      I am starting to think that. My site is moving in the SERPs in Yahoo/Bing. If if I can't fix the problem then I will have run the site with a purpose to SEO for Yahoo/Bing
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      • Profile picture of the author IcedSEO-CEO
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        Originally Posted by hbsjcd3 View Post

        I am starting to think that. My site is moving in the SERPs in Yahoo/Bing. If if I can't fix the problem then I will have run the site with a purpose to SEO for Yahoo/Bing
        Well, if you use that time to settle your scores with the big G, you will be thanking yourself later that you did cos when it comes to SEO, they control the world, believe it or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    nope.. It's you who deindexed your site...you need fresh content..
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    • Profile picture of the author hbsjcd3
      Originally Posted by Adie View Post

      nope.. It's you who deindexed your site...you need fresh content..
      Thats just it. Its a completely revamped site/// I changed completely 2 weeks ago with new unique content, new unique reviews, testimonials. All for a better visitor experience...then I get this surprise.
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      • Profile picture of the author SamuelJ
        Are you still building fresh links to it and sharing it on social media?
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        • Profile picture of the author hbsjcd3
          Originally Posted by SamuelJ View Post

          Are you still building fresh links to it and sharing it on social media?
          Yes I am . because I am getting good traffic from yahoo/bing...... My SEO is now exclusively done for Yahoo/bing, while I keep on working to rectify the site for Google.... Do you have any idea why they de-indexed my site?
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      • Profile picture of the author Adie
        Originally Posted by hbsjcd3 View Post

        Thats just it. Its a completely revamped site/// I changed completely 2 weeks ago with new unique content, new unique reviews, testimonials. All for a better visitor experience...then I get this surprise.
        If you changed the meta then that is the problem.. your site has a high PR and I am pretty sure it will get back soon..
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        • Profile picture of the author hbsjcd3
          Originally Posted by Adie View Post

          If you changed the meta then that is the problem.. your site has a high PR and I am pretty sure it will get back soon..

          No didn;t change the meta. I changed the internal link structure. See my

          article.html

          page. Someone from another forum told me my linking structure on that page seems be constructed to manipulate the flow of PR through the site since only a specific keyword is the anchortext for the link.. H said I should make the entire article title the anchor text link, and not just part of it.........I don't know..but sounds plausable
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          • Profile picture of the author hbsjcd3
            Originally Posted by hbsjcd3 View Post

            No didn;t change the meta. I changed the internal link structure. See my

            article.html

            page. Someone from another forum told me my linking structure on that page seems be constructed to manipulate the flow of PR through the site since only a specific keyword is the anchortext for the link.. H said I should make the entire article title the anchor text link, and not just part of it.........I don't know..but sounds plausable
            Anyone else have any opinions? Google only de-indexes a site because they detect someone is trying to be deceptive and to "game" the system. That is not my intention, but I may have done it accidentally. Can someone take a look and let me know what have done that may seem deceptive?
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  • Profile picture of the author Felipe
    that totally sucks....were you ranking high for a trademark name? I had/have a website which was ranking 1st for a keyword and also on the first page for a brand name. Guess what? My website has been reported as web forgery (even being honest)...created again another website, ranked good as before and BAM! desindexed for violating the invisible guidelines...
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Yea that sucks, I didn't see anything on your site that stood out enough to get a deindex.

    If that was my site, here is what I would do If Google won't work with you on the existing site.

    I know this will take some work, but If G was sending you any traffic for those hops, I would setup an identical site with a .info TLD, then remove all traces of Google verification code that you have on the old site, block Google spiders from indexing the old site. Setup the new .info just for Google, don't add any verification code, just see If it gets indexed on it's own.

    The only way I would go through the trouble of creating a 2nd site is If I was already making sales on those hops from the old site.

    Worse comes to worse you'll 2 sites bringing in traffic from Yahoo & Bing.
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    • Profile picture of the author hbsjcd3
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Yea that sucks, I didn't see anything on your site that stood out enough to get a deindex.

      If that was my site, here is what I would do If Google won't work with you on the existing site.

      I know this will take some work, but If G was sending you any traffic for those hops, I would setup an identical site with a .info TLD, then remove all traces of Google verification code that you have on the old site, block Google spiders from indexing the old site. Setup the new .info just for Google, don't add any verification code, just see If it gets indexed on it's own.

      The only way I would go through the trouble of creating a 2nd site is If I was already making sales on those hops from the old site.

      Worse comes to worse you'll 2 sites bringing in traffic from Yahoo & Bing.
      Hey thanks !! awesome idea. The only problem is the .info wouldn't rank because all my backlinks are on .com domain.... I am getting 200 uniques per day from Bing/yahoo, so will try to work with Google on getting indexed again.

      I hate them.

      They tell you are violation of the their webmaster guidelines but they don't tell what it is, then they send to a link of their guidelines, and I can't pick out for the life of me, how am I in violation. I seem to check out fine while reading the guidelines which i have read 100 times already since Friday!!
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        If you go with the new .info, it might be a good idea to keep both the new & old site 100% seperated from each other, fresh backlinks on the .info.

        I'm like you, after looking at your site I don't really see a problem & I've seen sites that rank ok in the SERPs that are horrible.

        If it was me I wouldn't touch the old site (on page content), since Yahoo & Bing are bringing in some traffic.

        A .info is cheap, so really the only thing it will cost you is time, to add a 2nd site. But hey, that 2nd site could bring in more traffic on Yahoo/Bing no matter what happens with Google.

        Couldn't hurt too try...





        Originally Posted by hbsjcd3 View Post

        Hey thanks !! awesome idea. The only problem is the .info wouldn't rank because all my backlinks are on .com domain.... I am getting 200 uniques per day from Bing/yahoo, so will try to work with Google on getting indexed again.

        I hate them.

        They tell you are violation of the their webmaster guidelines but they don't tell what it is, then they send to a link of their guidelines, and I can't pick out for the life of me, how am I in violation. I seem to check out fine while reading the guidelines which i have read 100 times already since Friday!!
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  • Profile picture of the author kaiserthesage
    I checked your site's link profile, and saw some suspicious links. Have you bought links?

    I saw some (a lot) irrelevant pages (homepages) linking to your site, and it seems that these pages were flagged by the big G as "paid links", because of the link's placement and irrelevance:

    BroPass.com Free Anonymous Public Web Proxy Server
    FreeGlypeThemes.info Download Free Themes For Glype Proxies
    Travelling To Lisbon | Lison Travel Information Guide

    links coming from these sites are not thematic.
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    • Profile picture of the author hbsjcd3
      Originally Posted by kaiserthesage View Post

      I checked your site's link profile, and saw some suspicious links. Have you bought links?

      I saw some (a lot) irrelevant pages (homepages) linking to your site, and it seems that these pages were flagged by the big G as "paid links", because of the link's placement and irrelevance:

      BroPass.com Free Anonymous Public Web Proxy Server
      FreeGlypeThemes.info Download Free Themes For Glype Proxies
      Travelling To Lisbon | Lison Travel Information Guide

      links coming from these sites are not thematic.
      Hello thanks for your comment.

      But to answer your question. No I did not buy links or exchanged. But I think some of these links are from my customers, who like my site and just put on link on theirs. I do a lot offline promotions so that why I would get these unrelated sites, linking to me.

      I have been trying to reach them to remove them and removed some but about 20-25 still remain. However, I don't think thats why I was de-indexed, There just not that many irrelevant backlinks
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  • Profile picture of the author ElectronPlumber
    Your site is guilty of keyword stuffing. Every article with the keywords in bold that don't fit in the context of the sentences, all the lists of links with the exact same keyword text at the bottom of the articles.

    Example: Find Address From Phone Number Is Simple

    Google Webmaster Page Telling you not to do this: Keyword stuffing - Webmaster Tools Help

    Unstuff it and resubmit it for consideration.

    I'm writing a FAQ for site deindexing/deranking here: FAQ 8.1: PLEASE READ - Your Traffic Dropped and Your Site Was Buried/Deindexed/Sunk

    I'll have to add a specific entry for keyword stuffing like this.
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    • Profile picture of the author hbsjcd3
      Originally Posted by ElectronPlumber View Post

      Your site is guilty of keyword stuffing. Every article with the keywords in bold that don't fit in the context of the sentences, all the lists of links with the exact same keyword text at the bottom of the articles.

      Example: Find Address From Phone Number Is Simple

      Google Webmaster Page Telling you not to do this: Keyword stuffing - Webmaster Tools Help

      Unstuff it and resubmit it for consideration.

      I'm writing a FAQ for site deindexing/deranking here: FAQ 8.1: PLEASE READ - Your Traffic Dropped and Your Site Was Buried/Deindexed/Sunk

      I'll have to add a specific entry for keyword stuffing like this.
      Thanks ElectronPlumber,

      I thought that was the problem too. Another person told me that I was trying to manipulate the serps by only linking with the keyword anchortext and was leaving the rest of the article title unlinked... I guess 2 people seeing the same thing makes it official

      ALSO, I might just delete those pages altogether. How would you suggest do that? Do I just update the sitemap and resubmit it with the lower page count OR do i have to remove a page from Google on the webmaster tools area?
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  • Profile picture of the author quintonboyer
    Good luck trying to get re-indexed. There are many times when Google would just let you know that they have reviewed your site and just let you keep on hanging. They don't really give you a straightforward answer.
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