BING tipped to overtake Google

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Not sure if this has already been posted:

Could Bing Overtake Google in 2012? [CHART]
#bing #google #overtake #tipped
  • Profile picture of the author ArticlePenguin
    thanks for this article, but google, over taken by bing? Seems silly. I'll believe it when I see it
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    • Profile picture of the author vajoma
      It is good to see that there is competition for Google. With recent changes many people that I have talked to found the Google results to assuming. Also, the farmer update did not only hit low-quality sites but also some great sources of information. Bing currently does a far better job than Google in terms of syndication with other sites. So, yeah, why wouldn't bing be able to overtake Google ... Remember how big AOL, CompuServe and others were in the beginning?
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    • Originally Posted by ArticlePenguin View Post

      thanks for this article, but google, over taken by bing? Seems silly. I'll believe it when I see it
      Yea I must say, I can't see it either. Google are the masters of innovation. They won't relinquish their market share without a damn good fight.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ultimately
        Originally Posted by TBInternetMarketing View Post

        Yea I must say, I can't see it either. Google are the masters of innovation. They won't relinquish their market share without a damn good fight.
        This, and don't forget Google is a specialist in its field M$ is not. Add to this the fact that Google has more than enough cash to protect its semi-monopoly... M$ has its work cut out for it... Stick to windoze M$
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    • Profile picture of the author adamshappyl
      Originally Posted by ArticlePenguin View Post

      thanks for this article, but google, over taken by bing? Seems silly. I'll believe it when I see it
      sometimes , seeing is not believing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
    Ummm, no. Not happening.
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  • Profile picture of the author designerjack
    I think bing has a lot of potential but Google will remain in
    peoples minds at least for another two or three decades...

    Clearly, Google has obtained everyone's confidence when
    searching for stuff and they are controlling most searches.

    However, I do know a lot of people who prefer other search
    engines like Yahoo over Google for reasons of relevance.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by designerjack View Post

      I think bing has a lot of potential but Google will remain in
      peoples minds at least for another two or three decades...
      Two or three decades? LOL.

      No, make that...
      No, make that LOL!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    I bet weirder things have happened! Interesting... Thanks for posting! Competition in this arena seems good!
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Sure, anything could happen.

    Anything.

    But will it? That's another story.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    While these projections seem promising, the only way they'll come to pass by January 2012 is if Google keeps losing market share at this same consistent rate while Bing is gaining it. If there's anything we have learned from past events, it is that consistency in business can be rather elusive despite one's best efforts.

    Regardless of what happens, Bing seems to have gained significant ground over the past year or so, and has left Yahoo pretty much in the dust. Whether it continues to gain ground in the coming months is going to depend on public perception and response - in my opinion, I find it quite implausible for Google to continue losing market share consistently over any extended period of time, like what is projected in the report.
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  • Profile picture of the author animesh
    Bing is doing well but far behind to Google in terms of fresh result as it index new content very slowly. But it has potential as other said, to chase Google in long term.
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  • Profile picture of the author BIG Mike
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    Actually, that article is misleading - Bing itself didn't suddenly take a huge jump in marketshare...it's the combination of Bing and Yahoo. In that perspective, nothing has changed at all - and the gap in the marketshare is an enormous one.

    This reminds me of all the browser and operating system wars I've seen over the years. I remember when FireFox launched and I still hear how it's overtaking IE. Based on my stats, 77% of my visitors are still using IE, compared to just 15% of FF. Google Chrome is grabbed nearly 5% of those visitors away from FF compared to a year ago.

    97% of my visitors are still using MS Windows, with 1.1 percent using MAC's. The rest is a smattering of everything.

    Say what you want, the numbers don't lie - individually or combined, Bing and Yahoo haven't put a dent in Google's market share.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Didnt BING recently get caught for copying Googles search results?
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      • Profile picture of the author donhx
        Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

        Didnt BING recently get caught for copying Googles search results?

        No. There are numerous news articles online that show how Google manipulated that data to make it look like Bing was copying results, but it wasn't true.

        Can Bing overcome Google? Doubtful, but possible. Many of us remember when AltaVista, Lycos and even Yahoo were the biggest and best search engines, but they have all faded or vanished. The same is likely to happen to Google.

        Goggle's claim to fame is not really better search. It was generating context-sensitive ads from searches, and that has made them untold billions off the intellectual property of others.

        Goggle is not the last search engine. Something better is just around the corner.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

        Didnt BING recently get caught for copying Googles search results?
        No, but Google concocted a phony test to make it look like they did.

        Here's what actually happened:

        - Users agreed to share data with Microsoft
        - Users made very unlikely searches on Google
        - Users clicked through on the search results to unrelated sites
        - Bing rapidly indexed those unrelated sites for the search term

        Now, while Google said this was a clear case of Microsoft stealing Google search results, that wouldn't be necessary to get this behaviour.

        See, the user has shared their search and subsequent click with Microsoft. And when you search for a term, then click something in the tab where you searched, whatever you clicked must be a good match for that term. It doesn't matter which search engine you use. It doesn't matter what rank the link you clicked was. It only matters that you searched and clicked.

        What the Google researchers did was exploit statistical anomalies in search engine design that are common to ALL search engines, to produce aberrant results when no other data were available.

        The "proof" only works on something that Google has indexed and Bing hasn't, and only when the user has explicitly agreed to share their browsing activity with Microsoft.

        Not much of a proof, if you ask me.

        (And no, Bing isn't going to overtake Google. The very idea is just stupid.)
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        • Profile picture of the author Flamboyantegg
          ... Bing overtakes Google in JANUARY 2012?

          I'm fairly sure that's one of the signs the world will end in 2012... Better start wrapping things up, get some ticks in the boxes of my bucket list.

          On a slightly more serious note, as the article mentions itself, the numbers are fairly contrived and there's absolutely no expectation that the drop in Google's market share and rise in Bing's will continue. So I'm not expecting it, but it's interesting to see that Bing is getting more influential.

          I sense an onslaught of Bing-related SEO WSO's in the months to come.

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          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          What the Google researchers did was exploit statistical anomalies in search engine design that are common to ALL search engines, to produce aberrant results when no other data were available.

          The "proof" only works on something that Google has indexed and Bing hasn't, and only when the user has explicitly agreed to share their browsing activity with Microsoft.

          Not much of a proof, if you ask me.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Exactly this!

      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      Actually, that article is misleading - Bing itself didn't suddenly take a huge jump in marketshare...it's the combination of Bing and Yahoo. In that perspective, nothing has changed at all - and the gap in the marketshare is an enormous one.

      This reminds me of all the browser and operating system wars I've seen over the years. I remember when FireFox launched and I still hear how it's overtaking IE. Based on my stats, 77% of my visitors are still using IE, compared to just 15% of FF. Google Chrome is grabbed nearly 5% of those visitors away from FF compared to a year ago.

      97% of my visitors are still using MS Windows, with 1.1 percent using MAC's. The rest is a smattering of everything.

      Say what you want, the numbers don't lie - individually or combined, Bing and Yahoo haven't put a dent in Google's market share.
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    • Profile picture of the author stodog77
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      This reminds me of all the browser and operating system wars I've seen over the years. I remember when FireFox launched and I still hear how it's overtaking IE. Based on my stats, 77% of my visitors are still using IE, compared to just 15% of FF. Google Chrome is grabbed nearly 5% of those visitors away from FF compared to a year ago.
      IE actually makes up for about 50% of all browser users. The others account for the other 50% according to an article about Microsoft in this months Fortune magazine.
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  • Profile picture of the author packjack
    In belive in few years time Bing search engine will be almost equal to google search engine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nigel Greaves
    Stranger things have happened in the past. Let's not forget that Google replaced Yahoo who, at the time, appeared to have become the dominant force in the search field.

    Perhaps the biggest difference between then and now is more and more "ordinary" people use the internet and many of them refer to online searching as "googling" in the same way people use "Biro" for ball point pens.

    Some of the more "out there" types reckon the world will end in 2012 maybe this is what they mean

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  • Profile picture of the author socialbookmark
    I myself use and like Google search engine more than others but until most people think search = Google, Bing and other search engines can't compete it. Bing is live because its owned by a very rich company as Microsoft and if it was other's , i think it was closed now.
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    This is hard to believe this prediction.
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        • Profile picture of the author hblzr1
          What does the article you quoted below have anything to do with Bing overtaking Google?

          Originally Posted by obseerver View Post

          42 Senators ask federal prosecutions of adult pornography

          Nearly half of the members of the U.S. Senate are urging Attorney General Eric Holder to step up federal prosecutions of adult pornography.

          In a letter sent to Holder earlier this week, 42 senators encouraged Holder instruct prosecutors and FBI agents to counter what the lawmakers called "the growing scourge of obscenity in America." Anti-pornography activists have noted with alarm that, under President Barack Obama, the Justice Department has not filed a single new obscenity case anywhere in the country

          "We write to urge the Department of Justice vigorously to enforce federal obscenity laws against major commercial distributors of hardcore adult pornography," the senators wrote. "We believe it is imperative that the Department, with cooperation by the FBI, investigate and prosecute all major producers and distributors of adult obscenity. We need your leadership."

          We know more than ever how illegal adult obscenity contributes to violence against women, addiction, harm to children, and sex trafficking. This material harms individuals, families, and communities and the problems are only getting worse," the senators added.
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      • Profile picture of the author hblzr1
        Obseerver, please provide the stats that show the correlation between Google not blocking the pornography and having a 65% share of the search market.

        Originally Posted by obseerver View Post

        Microsoft Bing blocks pornography search. Whereas google does not block pornography search. That is the reason google search share is 65%.

        The majority of internet traffic is pornography, and probably over three quarters of the male population with access to it, use it, so there's going to be a hell of a lot of murderers and rapists in the near future. In fact, that's pretty much all society is going to consist of.
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  • Profile picture of the author fanimal
    As long as google will keep it simple it ain't happening, but you never know today
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  • Profile picture of the author nakmuay7
    once google was nothing and overtook everyone on the internet.

    now i think they are a victim of their own success, and with the new changes in particular they are showing us they are willing to sacrifice other peoples content to have their own rank above it in the SERPS. this is a bad move in my opinion and can only hurt them in the long run
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  • Profile picture of the author ganesh
    I never use BING. I am a big fan of Google and will remain so...
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  • Profile picture of the author fanimal
    Also the current google interface is much slower to the one few years ago. But I guess it won't make any difference to regular google users. People are creatures of habit..
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  • Profile picture of the author AFI
    God I hope not. I can never seem to rank well with Bing.
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  • Profile picture of the author matt5409
    I love the skeptical comments here - but it's probably more likely to happen than you realise.

    People get bored of things. Google has been around for such a long time now, it could well be the case where people just look for something new. And with Bing heavily advertising, i could be them.

    I really, really, REALLY hope not though.
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    • Profile picture of the author BIG Mike
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      Originally Posted by matt5409 View Post

      I love the skeptical comments here - but it's probably more likely to happen than you realise.

      People get bored of things. Google has been around for such a long time now, it could well be the case where people just look for something new. And with Bing heavily advertising, i could be them.

      I really, really, REALLY hope not though.
      Google hasn't been around very long at all...and their real growth in the market has been in the last 7 years. Yahoo has been around since 1994 (or maybe 95) and they took over the market and then promptly stopped innovating.

      As I mentioned in my earlier post, Bing's jump in market share is because they folded Yahoo search into their market share. So Bing isn't in any better position really, because they also took Yahoo out of the mix.

      And if you look at it historically, Microsoft's search division has consistently failed to grab a substantial piece of the market. What's different with Bing, besides the new name and look?
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  • Profile picture of the author MisterMunch
    I put the traffic to my ukulele site into the graph. It will pass Google in 2014.
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        Originally Posted by obseerver View Post

        A Warning for World War 3 has been sent, if world pornography is not destroyed and world pornography people and useless people are not culled immediately. World high inflation is unbearable and at its peak. World resources are in serious trouble. Animals are dying of starvation because 1 Billion useless people are eating food and occupying space. If animals die then human beings will not survive.

        42 USA Senators ask federal prosecutions of adult pornography and Google servers are located in USA. Google is one of the biggest reasons for spread of pornography worldwide. So Google will be in serious trouble in coming days.
        So, that was just plain...nuts :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Terry
    Because Google is so in-grained into society as a whole for online search I don't think anyone is going to overtake them in this area for a long time to come.

    How many times do you hear people say go and "Google it" or "I Googled it"? Has anyone you've heard say go "Bing it" not quite the same is it
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  • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
    An ironic concept to say the least, especially considering the fact that Microsoft admitted to copying Google's search results...LOL!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemeth
    no way this will happen
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Lim
    Think I should now study more about bing's seo.
    But I don't think Bing has the power to overtake Google, as Google win everyone's confidence and heart.
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  • Profile picture of the author haze
    I agree that it is highly unlikely that Bing will overtake Google, BUT... in the past year, more than half of my traffic came from Bing. Never say never.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gail Sober
    Since microsoft added itself as my home page and I haven't bothered changing it...

    I wonder if they're counting all the accidental bing searches that happen because of them automatically making my curser jump to their search box so while I think I'm typing in my roboform search box, I'm actually doing a Bing search.

    Or, I wonder if they're counting all the misleading article titles that I click on only to find out that I've just done a bing search when all I was trying to do is read an article.

    Sometimes things aren't always as they appear on the surface.

    On the flip side, I"m starting to see some bing search traffic in my logs. They've been missing in action there for quite a while.
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      • Profile picture of the author Aussie_Al
        I really can't see Bing over taking Google

        That said as someone mentioned above most people still use IE and Bing comes bundled with IE.
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  • Profile picture of the author imfusa
    Originally Posted by arttse View Post

    Not sure if this has already been posted:

    Could Bing Overtake Google in 2012? [CHART]

    Usually the graphs don't lie.
    It is a possibilty that bing may take google, but in my opinion google will remain the best, it is more user friendly, even them name is friendlier "google".
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  • Profile picture of the author ScottTMk
    Sounds like something the media have been able to hype up and get some views on...

    I dont think its going to happen, a year in the life of the Internet is a long time, Google can implement ways to gain back its market share, it also has the advantage of being highly popular
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    I hope so as we rank sites on to the first page of Bing twice as fast as we do on Google.
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  • I don't think it will happen, but who knows maybe bing has a trick up their sleeve. I'm just having a hard time seeing this happening. Although I would love for it to happen, I find bing more appealing... That would be a day for celebration if it did!!

    Someone needs to contend with Google... Competition is Good!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author MarksWineClub
    I think we all can relate to what's happening here. Bing is essentially moving into the top 100 in SERPS, but as we all know getting to page 1 and then #1 becomes increasingly difficult, to use an analogy.

    I think they are a ways off from passing Google. I do think we'll see a continued effort on their part to gain market share though.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    If Bing does overtake Google, Bing hates SEO people.

    Check Bing's API rules. You can use their API for anything, except for SEO tools.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      If Bing does overtake Google, Bing hates SEO people.
      As well they should.

      A search engine's goal is to deliver the most relevant results to its users.

      A SEO person's goal is to get their (or their client's) site to the top of the search engine results.

      Those two goals are, for the most part, mutually exclusive.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Why is this fantasy getting so much attention on the WF?

        I can't even fathom where people get such wild ideas from.

        They take things out of context, twist this, forget that, then
        come up with bing overtaking google?

        And in one year????

        Flat out ridiculous.

        Let's see, the price of gas has gone up 25% in the last month.
        That means these same speculator-fact-twisting people will
        convince you that in one year you will be paying $15 a gallon.

        Same flawed logic. Just like those who believed their $100,000
        house in 2006 will be worth a million in 2011.

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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
          There are a couple of thoughts that come to mind when I am reading this thread.

          One of the things was user experience. I did the same search on all 3 engines to see what the results pages looked like. While ther are some subtle differences, like color of the premium ads but pretty much it is kind of hard to tell teh difference in how the results are displayed.

          Strangely enough, for me, I tended to prefer the Bing results page because I viewed it as less cluttered. But the truth is all 3 look very, very similar. So much so thta you could swap the logos around and I think many folks would find it difficult to tell the difference.

          That's not really how the search engines work inside, but in order to achive the results and ROI the companies are looking for, the results do have to be displayed in a way that leads folks to click on the ads instead of the organic results.

          All 3 are in essence, big ad serving platforms. The talk is often about user experience and curating the web, but none of those companies are going to spend a huge chunk of their money on that kind of philanthropy. Especially if doing so does not lead to a profit or at least huge brand recognition.

          Google has IMO the best eye focus for the premium ads. The word Everything is bolded and in English anyway is longer than the rest of the words in the left hand sidebar. This makes it appear to be a directional signal to the premium ads with the background color. I would suspect that this helps bring the ad ROI and CTR up.

          I know my wife will click on the premium ads thinking they are organic results. I am willing to bet that many people do. If it was really about creating a great user experience, there would be no ads. But its not about that. Its about providing a value added service and making a profit from doing so. No problem there.

          But now that from my viewpoint, there is very little difference in the apperance of the results displayed, I think the competition for market share will rest for a large part on brand recognition and not ancillary services added.

          That's only my opinion. Microsoft has bought a lot of things to increase their market share over the years. While that tactic does not result in increase in market share from consumer choice, it has worked well for them in the past.
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Dybka
            I really doubt that Bing or any other search engine can topple Google any time soon,they are just to big to be taken out and just to popular as well.


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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Lol, Bing traffic going up has nothing to do with Yahoo, right?

    I'm betting that's not just Bing traffic on that graph in the OP link.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonthewebmaster
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    It'll never happen. The only reason Bing is even going up in the first place is because facebook is powered by them remember!?
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  • Profile picture of the author InitialEffort
    When you copy Google's top 3 algo, you are still miles behind...
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  • Profile picture of the author P3 Marketing
    I doubt it's going to happen in 2012, but it wouldn't be weird if we saw that happen in 2 or 3 years...
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  • Profile picture of the author alfeathea
    I don't see Bing taking over Google any time soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author caseycase
    "Google" is now a verb - i.e. - "Let me google that." Bing is not. Haven't heard anyone say they were going to "bing" something.

    No way Bing overtakes Google in 2012, unless something amazingly drastic happens. Don't forget that Google's market share in search will continue to climb in mobile as well, as Android phone continue to crush it in the smartphone market.

    Thanks for the share, though! Very interesting!
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  • Profile picture of the author robfrancis
    It may not be Bing that overtakes Google but a shift in mindset and approach to search. The biggest threat to Google right now is not Bing but Facebook. If Facebook continues revising and refining their means of monetizing the site, advertisers will spend with them. Basically the social side of things has the potential to overtake Google because rather than blunt ads it may eventually be recommended products from family/friends/trusted acquaintances. Who really knows?

    Of interest perhaps to some of you is that the young Larry Page and Sergey Brin tried to sell Google to Alta Vista and then Yahoo for a million dollars and got turned down by Paul Flaherty and David Filo respectively! Ouch!

    Just my two cents,
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