The Yahoo Dance--What ??

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Hi Everyone,

I have noticed something weird lately with Yahoo & Bing..It seems that yahoo & Bing now have a dance similar to Google going on.

Here is what I have seen recently..I have 2 sites that have been on page 1..then went to page 3 and stayed their for a few days ..then went to page 25..then back to page 3...and now gone !...no where to be found for the last 3 days now...I hope this a dance anyway..anyone else had this happen ?..has anyone seen their sites vanish for days in yahoo and Bing and come back ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Phasm
    For almost all of my websites Yahoo and Bing typically lag 1-2 months behind for me in terms of ranking. They might just be catching up to where you previously were on Google so I would give it a few weeks and see where you are then, no need to panic just yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
      So have you had sites completely disappear from Yahoo on Bing for days before ?...I mean not even in the top 1000...I see this all the time from Google..but not Yahoo and Bing.
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  • Profile picture of the author NastyBlast
    Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

    Hi Everyone,
    I have noticed something weird lately with Yahoo & Bing..It seems that yahoo & Bing now have a dance similar to Google going on.
    The reason this is happening right now is most likely because Yahoo/Bing are struggling to make things work.

    I don't know what retard named it the "Google dance" so many years ago... but whatever.

    Here's how that works( and why ). Not many people talk about this because we either don't know about it or don't want you to know about it.

    Google wants to give sites in lower positions and opportunity at higher positions. Sites in the top 30 or so are randomly boosted to page 1 or page 2. this is been going on for years... All the way back to Google dance every 28 days.

    Google then measures how well that site performed for users in comparison to the site that was previously at that position. At the end of this Google compares the Scores of the two sites and whoever scored better advances in position.

    Google used to do this once a month.... Then every 14 days... And over the last 4 years maybe 5 it is constant. This is when Matt Cutts started talking about ever-flux... in which Google can do this random testing of sites on a constant basis.

    We discovered this by accident... We were obsessed with looking at the various results across about a dozen different Google data centers. What we noticed is exactly what you noticed as you stated in your post here.

    we had visibility on 24 Google data centers. And we could see that on 2-3 servers... Our sites would remain at an elevated position for about three days... While the remaining Google data centers kept the same exact site at lower positions. We believe this is when Google is testing a site with a small audience rather than throwing it at the main audience.

    It's basically an audition at a few data centers and if your site performs well during these times you advance in the ranks and that spreads to other data centers. you could also liking it to a multistage interview. Google is going to see what a small portion of people think. If the people like the site ... Google knows that by measuring net activity to the domain.

    after you've been watching it for a while it's all really quite simple. However getting into the top 30 is where back links and all those other outside factors come into play. You have to get into about the top 30 to have a shot at getting on page 1. and that means getting a good amount of inbound links to the point where Google says - okay it's your turn.

    of course all of this is theory... But when you add it all up with the observations and the history of how Google has evolved... it's quite clear.

    we would achieve page 1 positions for highly competitive 2 word terms in less than 40 days all the time. but holding those positions is a totally different story. The site has to outperform the sites below it to maintain its position.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
      But what about my sites vanishing from yahoo and Bing for 3 days now ? ...when I do a site:mysite it shows so they are not de-indexed ...don't get it
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  • Profile picture of the author goldhome
    May be some untold algo update similar to the panda update? Not sure whats the matter. loved your heading.
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  • Profile picture of the author majay
    i have no idea that the same is also happening to yahoo
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    Its all about Kenya ,all the time

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  • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
    My sites are still missing in action on Yahoo and Bing..this sucks !
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    • Profile picture of the author NastyBlast
      Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

      My sites are still missing in action on Yahoo and Bing..this sucks !
      well I'm pretty sure they are the same database now because I think I saw were Yahoo results are being driven by Bing.

      And as for them sucking... I don't see that changing... Ever.

      Search is just not Microsoft's department. You'd think they would have learned that by now. How much more money are they going to waste trying to chase a racecar in a golf cart:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
    Day 5 still not showing in top 1000 results of yahoo...still Indexed..weird.
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