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Article Spinning - Level of Uniqueness?

by jgerych
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Hi guys, I'm new to the forum and article marketing as well. I tried to find a complex answer to this thing I've been thinking about but didn't find anything, so sorry if this was discussed before.

I am spinning articles using TBS. I usually don't use all the advanced spinning techniques and just spin the words and phrases to hit uniqueness ranging from 50 to 65 percent. My main goal is to make quality articles which make complete sense even in spun versions. And as I am only sending them manually to article directories, using one article maybe five times, I only add one synonym to every word/phrase I replace.

My question is, is the uniqueness I create and one synonym for a word/phrase enough, when you take into account how and in what quantity I use the spun articles?

Thanks for any help!
#article #level #spinning #uniqueness
  • Profile picture of the author goldhome
    Manual rewrite of articles are the best. If you spin any article and do not make sufficient changes in terms of sentence structure it would be okay. You can use article spinners to even find a more relevant alternative to the current word.
    If you simply spin the crap out of an article and submit it, it is nearly equal to absurdness!
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  • Profile picture of the author alina albert
    Yup manual rewrite is always useful and helpful.Auto submitter doesn't give good results.
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    • Profile picture of the author jgerych
      Sorry guys, I don't think I understand well enough what you are saying.

      "If you spin any article and do not make sufficient changes in terms of sentence structure it would be okay."

      Would it be ok or wouldn't it? I thought that changing the sentence structure is good for articles, because it makes them look even more different than the original article.

      However, I don't do it, I only spin words and phrases and the sentence structure remains the same. So I wanted to ask you if that's sufficient, taken into account that I have 50%+ uniqueness, or if it's worthless. I control every article after the spin making it impossible to tell that it was spun by computer (I manually delete every synonym which doesn't make sense).

      I can't rewrite the articles in my own words since I have tens of subpages and an article for each of them. It would be a pain in the ass.

      Thanks again.


      EDIT: Also, I don't understand what you are saying here: "It is not fine, but if you remains it to 15 % then it is some how reasonable." 15% uniqueness? Don't get it, sorry.
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  • Profile picture of the author bigcat1967
    I just outsource my article writings to other people and let them come up w/ original content. Best way for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author dburk
    Hi jgerych,

    I think some folks are not reading your OP before replying. You are asking how unique your spun articles need to be to avoid the duplicate content filter, right?

    Google is pretty good at detecting synonym replacement. If you are just doing synonym replacement then you are likely to have all but one of your articles filtered from the SERP for a given keyword. You should rewrite the sentence at least once as well as doing synonym replacement.
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    • Profile picture of the author jgerych
      Originally Posted by dburk View Post

      Hi jgerych,

      I think some folks are not reading your OP before replying. You are asking how unique your spun articles need to be to avoid the duplicate content filter, right?

      Google is pretty good at detecting synonym replacement. If you are just doing synonym replacement then you are likely to have all but one of your articles filtered from the SERP for a given keyword. You should rewrite the sentence at least once as well as doing synonym replacement.
      Thanks a lot, makes sense. Does filtering out articles from the SERP also means that the links in the articles which lead to my niches do not count or have reduced meaning?
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      • Profile picture of the author QuarterHead
        Originally Posted by jgerych View Post

        Does filtering out articles from the SERP also means that the links in the articles which lead to my niches do not count or have reduced meaning?
        YES. Filtered articles mean that it was flagged as duplicate content. Although it's still in the index, it might get deindexed and all your back-linking efforts are for nothing.
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        • Profile picture of the author dburk
          Originally Posted by jgerych View Post

          Thanks a lot, makes sense. Does filtering out articles from the SERP also means that the links in the articles which lead to my niches do not count or have reduced meaning?
          Hi jgerych,

          I have never seen evidence that suggests they are any less powerful in passing PageRank or Trust.

          Originally Posted by QuarterHead View Post

          YES. Filtered articles mean that it was flagged as duplicate content. Although it's still in the index, it might get deindexed and all your back-linking efforts are for nothing.
          Hi QuarterHead,

          There is no duplicate content penalty, it only gets filtered in the SERP post query. If a page gets de-indexed it is for another reason (i.e. copyright violation), not for simply being duplicate content.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alex Peltonen
            Hello jgerych. I think it is enough in terms of the uniqueness you create and one synonym for a word/phrase. But we're saying that it would still be better if you consider article rewriting than article spinning. And if you're thinking that would take too much of your time, you can hire someone to do that for you just like what others in here are suggesting. So there, I think I've answered your question and gave you a suggestion as well. Hope this helps.
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          • Profile picture of the author Tim Costume Jewellery
            Can someome please answer a simple question:

            If I write an article with say 2 key phrases inside which link to my website and then put that article on say 20 Article sites will google think its duplicate content?
            I ask this because I wrote an article which I submitted to a high ranking blogg, which I would imagine did wonders for my SEO, however about 2 weeks later other websites had nicked it from this high ranking blog to post on their own blogg. They kept my links but would the power from the original blogg be lost because the article had been duplicated on a few other sites. If so should I be only putting an article on 1 article site only?

            Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author eguynth
    Does those articles make any sense to you? If so yes it is okay, but its totally wrong and doesnt make any sense. Worth rewriting by your self.
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  • Profile picture of the author peejaydee
    If the article is your own, i.e. you own all rights to the article, then manually rewriting it is always the better solution to get different versions from the same subject. Automated spinning, in my opinion is never going to give you an article that someone will actually want to read.

    The whole point of article marketing is, after all, to have an articulate ad for you or your site out there with a link to bring people towards you, that can be picked up by other websites and reprinted to seed your link around the web - and have it associated with a quality article.

    Using spun articles (even manually spun) for this purpose undermines the level of quality that's truly needed for successful article marketing.

    So if you're going to spin, do it manually as a rewrite rather than just word swapping.
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  • Profile picture of the author stingrays06
    I usually try and aim for at least 30% uniqueness -- at the bare minimum. When spinning my content I also use TBS, but only after I rewrite each sentence 4 separate ways. This can be quite cumbersome but it is well worth it. Then, after I have all my different variations I use TBS to replace words here and there. This way, I know that the final article is still readable.
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  • Profile picture of the author lespritb
    Yup! for my view it's help full rather than auto..keep it up dude..
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  • Profile picture of the author JuliaRobin
    Well, submitting quality and fresh articles to only top article directories would give you good return..
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