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Best way to rank new sites, build my rank?

by thedog
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Hi guys, I'm currently working on 4 amazon review sites.

I'm following a wso, that suggested using 3waylinks. After doing a bit of research on here, it seems it's not the best option.

I don't mind paying some money for backlinks, as I find it very time consuming.

I've heard good things about build my rank... Up to 5 domains - $59/month

Are there any other recommendations? SENUKE X seems pretty expensive...

My sites have low to medium competition, with around 25,000 exact monthly searches.
#build #rank #sites
  • Profile picture of the author packerfan
    the downside to BMR is you have to write a lot of content. 150 word posts may not seem like much, but crank out 10 a day for a while, it gets old.

    Here's what I do for my new sites. Seems to work okay. I pay $19 at webwire for a press release submission. This always send very targeted traffic and it so I get some instant feedback. For example, I launched a micro site monetized with adsense. I did the press release, the site made $50 in about 5 days. Plus I ened up with a ton of backlinks from the press release getting syndicated.

    I also do some manual blog commenting on high PR URLs, and throw in some social bookmarks and some blasts with scrapebox for good measure.

    I generally get a site onto page 2-3 after about week or so, but I do good keyword research and try to do good onpage seo.

    Anyway, that's what I do.
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    • Profile picture of the author thedog
      Originally Posted by packerfan View Post

      the downside to BMR is you have to write a lot of content. 150 word posts may not seem like much, but crank out 10 a day for a while, it gets old.

      Here's what I do for my new sites. Seems to work okay. I pay $19 at webwire for a press release submission. This always send very targeted traffic and it so I get some instant feedback. For example, I launched a micro site monetized with adsense. I did the press release, the site made $50 in about 5 days. Plus I ened up with a ton of backlinks from the press release getting syndicated.

      I also do some manual blog commenting on high PR URLs, and throw in some social bookmarks and some blasts with scrapebox for good measure.

      I generally get a site onto page 2-3 after about week or so, but I do good keyword research and try to do good onpage seo.

      Anyway, that's what I do.
      How do you find your do follow blogs to comment on... I use a search string with google to find these, but even then, it's difficult to find blogs accepting comments.

      I'm also using Market Samurai to find do follow blogs, but again, takes a while to find one that will accept a comment.

      How do you find yours?

      As for the press release... Would this work for a physical product, I mean, say you were promoting air humidifiers.... how would you write a press release about that?

      Cheers
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      • Profile picture of the author packerfan
        Originally Posted by thedog View Post

        How do you find your do follow blogs to comment on... I use a search string with google to find these, but even then, it's difficult to find blogs accepting comments.

        I'm also using Market Samurai to find do follow blogs, but again, takes a while to find one that will accept a comment.

        How do you find yours?

        As for the press release... Would this work for a physical product, I mean, say you were promoting air humidifiers.... how would you write a press release about that?

        Cheers
        I don't worry about dofollow/nofollow. I just find high PR blogs using scrapebox that are related to my site and I post on them manually.

        I'd take this approach on your press release for promoting physical products.

        "New website promises to answer the question once and for all - What's the best air humidifier"

        After reviewing 19 air humidifiers over past 9 months, website owner Jim Johnson says "The air humidifier market is getting competitive, we're seeing very little difference between the super expensive and more affordable units."

        While http://airhumidifierreviews.org has only been around 9 months, it has a loyal following with approximately 9,000 unique visitors per month. The site owner says, "I expect the traffic to increase as we continue to improve our ratings systems and add the number of our reviews."


        That should get you started. Hell that's almost enough to submit as is. Anyway, with a press release you're not selling anything. Your providing information about a new product, service, website, etc.

        Hope that helps.
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        • Profile picture of the author thedog
          Originally Posted by packerfan View Post

          I don't worry about dofollow/nofollow. I just find high PR blogs using scrapebox that are related to my site and I post on them manually.

          I'd take this approach on your press release for promoting physical products.

          "New website promises to answer the question once and for all - What's the best air humidifier"

          After reviewing 19 air humidifiers over past 9 months, website owner Jim Johnson says "The air humidifier market is getting competitive, we're seeing very little difference between the super expensive and more affordable units."

          While http://airhumidifierreviews.org has only been around 9 months, it has a loyal following with approximately 9,000 unique visitors per month. The site owner says, "I expect the traffic to increase as we continue to improve our ratings systems and add the number of our reviews."


          That should get you started. Hell that's almost enough to submit as is. Anyway, with a press release you're not selling anything. Your providing information about a new product, service, website, etc.

          Hope that helps.
          That's great! now I want to read reviews on air humidifiers... I'll give it a go... I have a report on from the war room that explains how to submit press releases.
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      • Profile picture of the author simonbuzz
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        Originally Posted by thedog View Post

        How do you find your do follow blogs to comment on... I use a search string with google to find these, but even then, it's difficult to find blogs accepting comments.

        I'm also using Market Samurai to find do follow blogs, but again, takes a while to find one that will accept a comment.

        How do you find yours?

        As for the press release... Would this work for a physical product, I mean, say you were promoting air humidifiers.... how would you write a press release about that?

        Cheers
        Use this code to find blogs that you can comment on: site:.com inurl:blog "post a comment" -"comments closed" -"you must be logged in" "your own keyword" you can change the option such as site:.com you can use any domain for example site:.net or site:.edu etc etc..and in the place where it is written your own keyword you can also change it and can replace it with your keywords that you are targeting...I hope that helps...
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    • Profile picture of the author junilerick
      Originally Posted by packerfan View Post

      the downside to BMR is you have to write a lot of content. 150 word posts may not seem like much, but crank out 10 a day for a while, it gets old.

      Here's what I do for my new sites. Seems to work okay. I pay $19 at webwire for a press release submission. This always send very targeted traffic and it so I get some instant feedback. For example, I launched a micro site monetized with adsense. I did the press release, the site made $50 in about 5 days. Plus I ened up with a ton of backlinks from the press release getting syndicated.

      I also do some manual blog commenting on high PR URLs, and throw in some social bookmarks and some blasts with scrapebox for good measure.

      I generally get a site onto page 2-3 after about week or so, but I do good keyword research and try to do good onpage seo.

      Anyway, that's what I do.
      Would press release work for a site that's targeting "boring" keywords? Like, say, "cheap red sandals" for example. I mean would people really be that interested to read a press release on something that isn't so hot right now?
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      • Profile picture of the author packerfan
        Originally Posted by junilerick View Post

        Would press release work for a site that's targeting "boring" keywords? Like, say, "cheap red sandals" for example. I mean would people really be that interested to read a press release on something that isn't so hot right now?
        Don't make the release about cheap red sandals, make it about the site reviewing cheap red sandals.

        "New sandal review site sets out to answer the question that's on everyone's mind - What's the best cheap red sandal this spring."

        Then focus the press release on the site.

        You could also take the approach of the red sandal provided there is something news worthy about it.

        "Prada introduces the much anticipated cheap red sandal: Reviews already rolling in"

        Website cheapredsandals.com has the first review of Prada's new cheap red sandal. blah blah blah
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  • Profile picture of the author MarQueteer
    3 way links still work but are certainly not perfect since Google became really clever finding and devaluating these kinds of link trades. I'd look for any in-content blog network posting services, BMR isn't bad, their indexing ratio isn't perfect but ok. So, don't expect huge results, but a good value for money for sure.

    I personally prefer ALN ( Authority Link Network ), but you have to add own sites with pagerank to the system to get credits for posting articles with your links.
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    • Profile picture of the author thedog
      Originally Posted by MarQueteer View Post

      3 way links still work but are certainly not perfect since Google became really clever finding and devaluating these kinds of link trades. I'd look for any in-content blog network posting services, BMR isn't bad, their indexing ratio isn't perfect but ok. So, don't expect huge results, but a good value for money for sure.

      I personally prefer ALN ( Authority Link Network ), but you have to add own sites with pagerank to the system to get credits for posting articles with your links.
      And there in lies the catch 22... my sites are pretty new, with 0 pr.

      I just see competition with over 1000 backlinks, and I'm thinking... how can I best compete with that.

      I'm using social monkee to get 100 backlinks. I add articles to article directories and blog comment, social bookmarking, amplify etc... but to get over 1000, I need some sort of service...
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      • Profile picture of the author packerfan
        Originally Posted by thedog View Post

        And there in lies the catch 22... my sites are pretty new, with 0 pr.

        I just see competition with over 1000 backlinks, and I'm thinking... how can I best compete with that.

        I'm using social monkee to get 100 backlinks. I add articles to article directories and blog comment, social bookmarking, amplify etc... but to get over 1000, I need some sort of service...
        Buy scrapebox, find highly targeted high PR blog URLs and comment on them manually. It helps. You can also do cool things like do an AMR blast, pull your live links, and then blast away with scrapebox on those links to get them indexed quickly.

        Lost of strategies, just find something that makes sense to you and roll with it.
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        • Profile picture of the author thedog
          Originally Posted by packerfan View Post

          You can also do cool things like do an AMR blast, pull your live links, and then blast away with scrapebox on those links to get them indexed quickly.
          Can you explain this to me please. What's an AMR blast? Pull my live links?
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        • Profile picture of the author thedog
          Originally Posted by packerfan View Post

          Buy scrapebox, find highly targeted high PR blog URLs and comment on them manually. It helps. You can also do cool things like do an AMR blast, pull your live links, and then blast away with scrapebox on those links to get them indexed quickly.

          Lost of strategies, just find something that makes sense to you and roll with it.
          Another $97 piece of kit... I know I need to invest to make money... hmmm, is it really worth it?

          I'm only concentrating on around 6 sites at the moment, competition aint to bad.... I think when I get some money back from them, I can re-invest in something like this.
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          • Profile picture of the author packerfan
            Originally Posted by thedog View Post

            Another $97 piece of kit... I know I need to invest to make money... hmmm, is it really worth it?

            I'm only concentrating on around 6 sites at the moment, competition aint to bad.... I think when I get some money back from them, I can re-invest in something like this.
            It all depends. if you're only going to buy one piece of software, buy scrapebox, learn to use it to scrape high PR blogs to post on that are related to your niche. Post on those blogs manually after reading the post.

            AMR is article marketing robot, what most people do is use it to link to their money site, and then use scrapebox to link to the links from AMR. This helps those links get indexed and found by google.

            THere's a million SEO strategies, all valid, all debated. If you're picking low competition keywords anything will work. Nail your on page SEO, get some quality links from manually blog commenting, submit a couple press releases, etc.

            IMO scrapebox is simply too much value to pass up at $57. The keyword research you can do with it is worth 10 times that. And that's only scratching the surface.

            I just bought it last week, it has a bit of a learning curve, but it's an amazing tool.
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      • Profile picture of the author arttse
        Simple solution.

        Buy yourself a PR2+ domain for under $50, set up a wordpress blog, and use this to join the authority link network.


        Originally Posted by thedog View Post

        And there in lies the catch 22... my sites are pretty new, with 0 pr.

        I just see competition with over 1000 backlinks, and I'm thinking... how can I best compete with that.

        I'm using social monkee to get 100 backlinks. I add articles to article directories and blog comment, social bookmarking, amplify etc... but to get over 1000, I need some sort of service...
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  • Profile picture of the author DJ DeMarco
    You can find a cheap some high PR homepage links at WSO, they offers monthly rate at affordable price. If your competition is not to high, I'm sure it will give a good effect. Or why not try the magic submitter ?
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  • Profile picture of the author xylement
    wow... looks like there's a lot of such service providers...
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  • Profile picture of the author sena123
    there is no such a 'best way to rank new sites" ...

    Just make sure you vary the anchor text links and do constant link building ...

    BMR is a good choice because it contains high PR blog network ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Green
    Hey dog,

    Yeah backlinking is a pain. You have to outsource the little things. I usually outsource comment posting. I have guys do it for like $25 for 150 manual comments. Some good deals around if you hire someone privately.
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    • Profile picture of the author thedog
      Originally Posted by BG48 View Post

      Hey dog,

      Yeah backlinking is a pain. You have to outsource the little things. I usually outsource comment posting. I have guys do it for like $25 for 150 manual comments. Some good deals around if you hire someone privately.
      Ye, I think this is the best way to handle blog commenting... time better spent making new sites.

      Where do you find this service, odesk? and how do know they've done it, do they send you a report of the blogs commented on, afterwards?

      Do you then ping the comments?
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      • Profile picture of the author Bryan Green
        Originally Posted by thedog View Post

        Ye, I think this is the best way to handle blog commenting... time better spent making new sites.

        Where do you find this service, odesk? and how do know they've done it, do they send you a report of the blogs commented on, afterwards?

        Do you then ping the comments?
        I go to freelancer post an add send them the pr comments that require captcha and i tell them i don't want them automatically done they must be manual and then they send me a report. I check the links in link checker and then pay them.
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        • Profile picture of the author thedog
          Originally Posted by BG48 View Post

          I go to freelancer post an add send them the pr comments that require captcha and i tell them i don't want them automatically done they must be manual and then they send me a report. I check the links in link checker and then pay them.
          How do you find blogs with only captcha? Scrapebox?

          What's link checker? does this just check if the links are broken? Or do you read each comment?

          $25 for 150 comments is pretty good... I guess this is better than paying by the hour, where they'll probably just scratch their arse.

          Do you just leave the comments after that, or is there any other IM wizardry? Do you ping them? Or just wait for google to find them?
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          • Profile picture of the author Bryan Green
            Originally Posted by thedog View Post

            How do you find blogs with only captcha? Scrapebox?

            What's link checker? does this just check if the links are broken? Or do you read each comment?

            $25 for 150 comments is pretty good... I guess this is better than paying by the hour, where they'll probably just scratch their arse.

            Do you just leave the comments after that, or is there any other IM wizardry? Do you ping them? Or just wait for google to find them?
            Yes scrapebox.

            Scrape box link checker. They have a free one out that is external. If you search it in google you will find it. It checks the website for your link.

            I let the worker make the comments and then i dont touch them. Just let them sit.
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            • Profile picture of the author thedog
              Originally Posted by BG48 View Post

              Yes scrapebox.

              Scrape box link checker. They have a free one out that is external. If you search it in google you will find it. It checks the website for your link.

              I let the worker make the comments and then i dont touch them. Just let them sit.
              I need to get scrape box... on a mac, so have to instal a virtual machine first.

              Cheers.
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    Fresh and relevant content is so essential.
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    • Profile picture of the author thedog
      Originally Posted by DIGITALCHAMELEON View Post

      Fresh and relevant content is so essential.
      What if its a site for a review of one product?
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      • Profile picture of the author James Sides
        I have personally had the most success with Linkvana.

        It isn't cheap at $147/mth but if you can find a good buddy to split it with then its not so bad just starting out.

        I know some people might disagree but after 12 months of great results I can't recommend it highly enough.

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          Originally Posted by Fenderkid View Post

          I have personally had the most success with Linkvana.

          It isn't cheap at $147/mth but if you can find a good buddy to split it with then its not so bad just starting out.

          I know some people might disagree but after 12 months of great results I can't recommend it highly enough.

          Cheers,

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    try to build link manually instead of using any kind of software, Some time google will penalize your site because of purchasing links or building link in unethical way.
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  • Profile picture of the author thesorcerersapprentice
    Its taken me some time and quite a lot of poor returns but I have found some good people on fiverr.com that will provide good quality .edu and .gov backlinks. Depending on how competitive your niche is these can certainly help.
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    If you have 6 sites already you will definitively take advantage of Scrapebox and AMR. These are 2 of the basic and must-have tools in terms of return on Investments. Their cost is vet low when compared to the value you will get from them

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    Build backlinks.
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    Quality backlinks and fresh content.
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    Site map, Install Google analytics, then a lot of white hat link building and well paced content, make sure your article length varies and includes LSI keywords. Once you get to G page one, focus more on optimizing positive behaviors. That's the cliff note version of effective SEO.
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    Site map, Install Google analytics, then a lot of white hat link building and well paced content, make sure your article length varies and includes LSI keywords. Once you get to G page one, focus more on optimizing positive behaviors. That's the cliff note version of effective SEO.
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    If you wanna to rank high then you will need to find lots wide range of links from many different source. I think if you could do it, you will surely rank pretty high
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    Yes it is true you need to get some good quality links for it.
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    Not only do you backlinks but you have to have those backlinks indexed as well. You can build all the backlinks that you want but if the Search Engines don't have a way of finding them then they don't count.
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    From what I'm learning about backlinks quantity does help, but quality rules i.e. .edu and .gov. Also having those links pinged will get them indexed sooner. I'm testing fiverr this coming week. Will let you know how it goes. Good luck.
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    Originally Posted by thedog View Post

    Hi guys, I'm currently working on 4 amazon review sites.

    I'm following a wso, that suggested using 3waylinks. After doing a bit of research on here, it seems it's not the best option.

    I don't mind paying some money for backlinks, as I find it very time consuming.

    I've heard good things about build my rank... Up to 5 domains - $59/month

    Are there any other recommendations? SENUKE X seems pretty expensive...

    My sites have low to medium competition, with around 25,000 exact monthly searches.

    I used a trial on Build my rank and got my site (which was no4. on page 1) sandboxed... Posted only 10 articles with 1 link in a period of 14 days, now figure.
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  • Profile picture of the author shara4you
    The most important thing you need to do is to create unique content for your site.if i were you, i will take some user friendly forum posts in the right niche. Guest blogging and blog commenting are still good way to boot serp. Make sure your links are relevant to your site.
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    So many good tips here, thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author tdj
      If your model is building 1 product review sites, look in the warriors for hire section. For $15-20 bucks you have many options for building links. Choose one package in that price range and see what happens after a few weeks. You can choose high pr blog commenting, link wheels, .gov and .edu backlinks, forum profiles, etc. Just choose one. When looking at your competitors that have 1,000 backlinks, a lot of times you can outrank them with good on page SEO and very few backlinks especially if you have EMD (Exact Match Domain) or your product name as part of your domain.
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    Originally Posted by thedog View Post

    Hi guys, I'm currently working on 4 amazon review sites.

    I'm following a wso, that suggested using 3waylinks. After doing a bit of research on here, it seems it's not the best option.

    I don't mind paying some money for backlinks, as I find it very time consuming.

    I've heard good things about build my rank... Up to 5 domains - $59/month

    Are there any other recommendations? SENUKE X seems pretty expensive...

    My sites have low to medium competition, with around 25,000 exact monthly searches.
    Backlink Pyramids & Link Wheels are just two different backlinking strategies that work wonders. Check the link in my sig. for more info.
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    I've been using BMR for close to 4 months now and I've seen awesome results! I highly recommend it. The only down side is yes you've got to create tons of content but it definitely pays off. And of course you can outsource the writing for cheaper than what BMR charges.
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