I don't know how to automate backlinks, should I?

I don't really vote for anyone to use automated back linking applications. It could really end to serious problems in your internet marketing venture. Your site can even be banned by google once they caught you doing something like this because they consider it to be illegal.

Can you link me? Cant seem to find it by looking at threads you started

Does this apply to all automated submissions?

The problem i have with statements like this is that you cant possibly know what it is you are stating.

I can GUARANTEE you that i can fill out forum profiles with XRumer that will be absoloutly NO different then if you went in and filled them out yourself.

Yes software can leave a footprint but so can a human. The software itself does not leave the footprint but lazy errors on part of its operator do. For instance when i am running an XRumer project, i make sure that i generate emails with a method that allows me to turn 1 email address into over 1k. This is reducing my footprint. I may submit to 1000 forums, but each has completely unique profile details.

On the other hand you have someone that manually submits to forums because they feel that automation is going to get them devalued. They go through a list of 20 forums and sign up for them all using the same email (i doubt that someone is going to create a new email for each forum when manually creating backlinks, feel free to let me know if i am wrong). My 1000 submissions with XRumer have now left less of a footprint then that persons 20, because if you go with the theory above Google can see that the same email registered for all those forums.

Yes Google has some smart people working for them, and no i dont doubt they have metrics we dont know about for sniffing out spam (which EVERYONE that builds backlinks does by the way). But it is ridiculous to assume that with all the sites on the internet and all the random ways that information is linked that Google can sniff out a piece of software from human input, as long as the user goes about things smartly.

Take your time, learn your software, make your submissions as unique and realistic as possible, and you will be able to build backlinks to not only your site, but 10 link wheels in the time it takes the guy doing it manually to get his wits about him.

Software is not for everyone, but it is for me. When I stop getting the results i want faster with software then i will stop using it.

Ok do you have anything to support your comment or just chiming in with nothing of value?

Once again not true. Yes those services may not be quality if they dont take the time to set things up correctly. Thats why when choosing an automation service you should ask questions. Make sure you know how they submit and what your profiles will look like. A service that churns out dozens of orders a day may not be concerned with the quality of the links.

If you invest in the software and learn it and do the projects yourself there is no difference between manual and automated submission.

If anyone can show me proof of how they can make a better quality profile link or any link for that matter without software than with software i am listening.

Everyone gets wrapped up in this hat that hat but the truth is that all link building is the darker side. The only whitehat method to building links is putting a site up and letting people find it naturally. Any other form of link building manual or not is by its basic definition the darker side.

Once again if anyone can offer any solid reasoning as to why correctly executed automation is not the same as manual submission i am listening.

Yes, that is true...but I think both you and I can agree that a huge majority here won't bother getting porn and pharma links.

A majority of software (SENukeX, Magic Submitter, etc.) that people would use wouldn't even get links from there. (Mostly Web 2.0, social, etc.)

So, for the average Warrior, this is a non issue.

Rob

Make no mistake about it... producing quality from automation takes time. Creating your submissions to a quality level you are comfortable with will take you a decent amount of time. But it saves you time in the long run because of the sheer amount of things you can automate with good content. Work hard in the beginning and it pays of in the end. Work hard all the way through and it pays off too but i like to work hard in the beginning with the same pay off.

Who said anything about me writing the quality content. I'm not the only person in the world capable of writing.

Rob

You need to try and try, do not believe every people talk. If you have money you can hire service to do that. Think about quality and quantity, and do not rush on this SEO game. It takes few months to see the result, no shortcut for it. If people know they do not let you know all .