Reviewsites: do they still work after panda

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Since last year I wanted to build a review site in a certain niche, but due to lack of time i never got around to it.
Now i have the time, but with the panda update i don't know if it is still worth the trouble. I noticed that all review sites have seen a serious decline in rankings, even some of the biggest players that provide unique and quality content.
Any idea on why that is?
I also noticed that in the WSO section some people are still selling amazon review site ebooks/programs/...
So do they still work and what would be the key to make them work?
I would love to hear from people who have a review site (and others too of course ).

Thanks a lot!!!
#panda #reviewsites #work
  • Profile picture of the author ryank
    I guess when you give a real content and target long tail keyword, you still can beat the Panda.
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  • Profile picture of the author lstoops
    YES! Of course they still work. But when you build the site don't think like a marketer, think about how you can provide as much valuable information as possible to those who would visit your site. And don't make the site look like you just want to make money off of it. Make the site look very professional.
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    • Profile picture of the author belgianguy
      Thanks for the tips guys and girls
      More advice is still welcome !
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  • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
    Originally Posted by belgianguy View Post

    I noticed that all review sites have seen a serious decline in rankings, even some of the biggest players that provide unique and quality content.
    Let me assure you that this isn't the case. The majority of my business is built around review sites, and most of my sites rankings actually increased after the Panda update. My overall traffic is up by about 30% since March which is a pretty big (and very welcome) jump!

    The only sites that decreased (of mine) were a few that were around 5 pages that I hadn't updated in about a year. For obvious reasons it wasn't a total shock that they disappeared from the top 10.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    Here is an old thread that gives you interesting information about Amazon review websites:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/220802-amazon-affiliates-you-seriously-making-money.html

    The problem with review sites is that most people write reviews Of reviews. They don’t know the products they are talking about; they simply rewrite other reviews…

    Some online users are becoming afraid to trust them. I read a blog post about someone who was disappointed with a product after reading only positive reviews about it online. It’s becoming obvious that these reviews are not real.
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    • Profile picture of the author marchenzo
      A chunk of my income is from high end product review sites, I can tell you for a fact, rumours of their demise are greatly exaggerated

      Content, content, content. Unique, much longer these days, and quality. If those are your watchwords, you will not go too far wrong from my experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author ciel
    If your site (any site) gives good user experience (which includes unique & high quality content or service) then there is no effect of the recent Google update.

    Go ahead, it still works.

    All the best

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  • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
    I don't personally own any review sites (nor have I done any research on how they're specifically doing after Panda), but my company just did a bunch of work for a giant website that is review-based - and I'm assuming the client wouldn't have gone ahead with it if review sites were getting mauled by Panda

    That being said, though, no matter what type of site you're looking to start, you have to make sure you have quality content on it. Just put yourself in the mind of your target audience. What would *you* like to see? What information would *you* need to get before you could buy something? As long as you're providing information that's based on legitimate research and information that's easy and interesting to read, I don't see why Panda would hurt you.
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    • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
      The Panda update hasn't affected any of my sites and I put one up last week and it's already selling product and ranking 2nd for it's keywords.

      Originally Posted by clever7 View Post

      The problem with review sites is that most people write reviews Of reviews. They don't know the products they are talking about; they simply rewrite other reviews...

      Some online users are becoming afraid to trust them. I read a blog post about someone who was disappointed with a product after reading only positive reviews about it online. It's becoming obvious that these reviews are not real.
      I don't trust them either when I'm looking to buy something, but this has been a problem for several years now. I call them overviews on my sites and provide a link to customer reviews, then I'm not misleading anybody.

      Originally Posted by peterjamesmorris View Post

      Good point - I think that if your going on customer reviews for your own review, I think it's best to go with big retailers who have a reliable returns policy. Also to pick best selling products that have over 90% positive reviews. You don't want to recommend anything not up to scratch.
      I agree with that.

      Originally Posted by NicoleBeckett View Post

      I don't personally own any review sites (nor have I done any research on how they're specifically doing after Panda), but my company just did a bunch of work for a giant website that is review-based - and I'm assuming the client wouldn't have gone ahead with it if review sites were getting mauled by Panda

      That being said, though, no matter what type of site you're looking to start, you have to make sure you have quality content on it. Just put yourself in the mind of your target audience. What would *you* like to see? What information would *you* need to get before you could buy something? As long as you're providing information that's based on legitimate research and information that's easy and interesting to read, I don't see why Panda would hurt you.
      That makes sense. What I've done is build overview sites that offer details of the products without the sales page hype. I comment on those details and then on good and bad feedback then add links to the products and reviews. As a consumer that's what I would rather see and it's working fine for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author belgianguy
    Thanks everyone! Your input has been most valuable!
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    My best performing site contains reviews, but it's not only reviews. The site includes many non-review articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
    Guys - sometimes I'm still shocked how easy it can be to make money with review sites. This goes for Clickbank, Amazon or any other type of product whether it is digital or physical.

    I've read people say "make it look professional". I think some level of effort to make it look nice is required but don't overdo it. Just make it CLEAN. That's it for the looks part.

    As for the content you need to actually HELP people with real information. The more help you provide, the better you will do. It really is that simple.

    I always start my sites using Filipino writers who do the reviews and the basic SEO. These sites do not cost much to put up. Not much at all. I find about half of them easily make money back fast. The other half are either duds or just take a bit longer.
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    • Profile picture of the author thedog
      Originally Posted by Chris Thompson View Post

      Guys - sometimes I'm still shocked how easy it can be to make money with review sites. This goes for Clickbank, Amazon or any other type of product whether it is digital or physical.

      I've read people say "make it look professional". I think some level of effort to make it look nice is required but don't overdo it. Just make it CLEAN. That's it for the looks part.

      As for the content you need to actually HELP people with real information. The more help you provide, the better you will do. It really is that simple.

      I always start my sites using Filipino writers who do the reviews and the basic SEO. These sites do not cost much to put up. Not much at all. I find about half of them easily make money back fast. The other half are either duds or just take a bit longer.
      You use Filipino writers? Do you mind me asking how much you pay per article?

      I imagine around the $3-$5 mark? I'm paying just under $10 for my review articles, as, I believe the quality of the review really does help conversions... not saying the quality of your articles is bad, just, I've never been able to get a decent article at low ball prices... if you are, nice one!

      As for the look... I've seen so many terrible review sites, real mid 90's designs, I usually find these when I'm trying to find an EMD.

      I like when I find terrible looking sites for competition... My site up at the moment has some crappy looking sites, and one nice EMD, but it's in Italian! Sweet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
    thedog,

    I have a simple strategy, which is to only invest in super high quality content when my SEO results show that the investment will pay off.

    I use Filipino writers, one in particular, who does this kind of stuff for me full time along with article marketing. Her English is quite good, and she understands how to go collect useful information for readers. After I taught her to do this, I don't bother reading all the reviews. She posts them and we do SEO work. Her and another guy on my team build links.

    We track our ranking on product keywords. We then invest more time and money (split testing, maybe hiring a better writer, adding graphics, adding more content, adding "related product" widgets, etc.

    If you think $350/month full time and your writer can do several reviews per day then you're in the ballpark. BTW $350/month = $17 per day. I am sure my writer could probably crank out 5 reviews per day but I'd rather she spend a bit more time on them up front and do 3-4 good initial quality reviews, format everything well, do on-page SEO, proof read, etc. So you're talking about building a site with 10 reviews in 3 days. It is dirt cheap.

    I NEVER hire freelancers to build these sites. You can absolutely do that, but I prefer to hire someone to do it all - wordpress install, site setup, keyword selection, product selection, review writing, article marketing, etc.

    I like to spend my time teaching my guys how to do what they need to do. Then they stay with me, I get to benefit from them long term.

    Lots of blog articles talking about this kinda stuff here
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  • Profile picture of the author Shazia Mirza
    They are still working for me, so the answer would be yes. Review sites don't have as much content as one might think. Plus the use of small amount of backlinks from a network of high pr blogs makes a difference in the way Google looks at your site.
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