Friends Clicking Adsense Ads

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I just had a thought and I don't know the answer to it. Hopefully some people here can shine some light on it for me.

What is to stop people, say a group of people on this forum, from forming a co-op of sorts and clicking each other's links everyday in order to generate adsense revenue for the group?

For instance, say me and 9 other forum members visited each other's sites everyday and clicked the ads. We would all be making money for each other, right?

1. Do people do this already?
2. Does/Can Google catch this?
3. Can you get money from the same ip address clicking your link more than once even if it's not your own?

It seems like it would be too easy and too good to be true. If this in any way violates the rules of this forum I'm sorry and you can remove the post.

Just doing some thinking

-Steve
#ads #adsense #clicking #friends
  • Profile picture of the author Zeb
    U will get caught. Google will see that ads are not converting and see that's something is up. Don't do it mate.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gijsbertus
      Originally Posted by Zeb View Post

      U will get caught. Google will see that ads are not converting and see that's something is up. Don't do it mate.
      Excactly... that's how I got banned
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      • Profile picture of the author IMVibe
        Originally Posted by Gijsbertus View Post

        Excactly... that's how I got banned
        I got banned . . . you think we'll ever be welcome again? :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author faceblogger
    Google is much smarter than you think when it comes to Adsense
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  • Profile picture of the author thegotoguy
    Google will know through analytics where the traffic came from before they clicked your ad, and where they went afterwards. They'll also know other things like I.P. addresses and they'll be quick to notice that all of the people came from forums. They'll just ban you. Period! End of story!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Yes, people try that - and yes, they tell friends to "click my ads" (though they later claim they didn't say that).

      Google knows the pattern
      Google bans them
      You don't get second chances

      You are not smarter than google - many people learn that the hard way.
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  • Profile picture of the author thegotoguy
    There isn't any real money to be made in google adsense anymore. Unless you are yanking in 5,000 uniques everyday and that might not even be enough. Depends on ad placement etc. Why are people so twisted up about adsense? The days of adsense revenue sites are GONE! If I got banned right now, I wouldn't care at all! Just my thoughts.
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    • Profile picture of the author rahmanpaidar
      You will get caught. It's annoying that google tracks users and discovers all the schemes and patterns. it probably knows who we are and what we search (whether SEOer, wembaster and or simple visitor)
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by thegotoguy View Post

      There isn't any real money to be made in google adsense anymore. Unless you are yanking in 5,000 uniques everyday and that might not even be enough. Depends on ad placement etc. Why are people so twisted up about adsense? The days of adsense revenue sites are GONE! If I got banned right now, I wouldn't care at all! Just my thoughts.
      That's good to know! I'll cancel mine today! Thanks!

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author kiwiviktor81
        My approach is to tell my friend explicity not to click on my ads. The Big G sees you when you're sleeping. It sees you when awake. It knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake!
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        • Profile picture of the author paulgl
          Originally Posted by kiwiviktor81 View Post

          My approach is to tell my friend explicity not to click on my ads.
          Friends don't let friends know their websites. Learned that from Yukon.

          With stuff like this being bantered around, is it any wonder google has
          a heavy hand? Most of their banning is done automatically via a
          computer bot/algorithm.

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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

            Friends don't let friends know their websites. Learned that from Yukon.

            With stuff like this being bantered around, is it any wonder google has
            a heavy hand? Most of their banning is done automatically via a
            computer bot/algorithm.

            Paul
            It's not just friends that I don't show my sites/URLs, it's also family.

            I'm not hiding anything besides my source of income.

            If I had a money tree growing in my backyard would I tell anyone about it? Heck NO! I would build a 20 foot high wall around it & water the tree like crazy, lol!

            No joke, everyone shouldn't risk their Adsense from being banned because a family member or a friend thought they were helping by click bombing your Adsense sites.

            Ask yourself (everyone) this, before you started Adsense did you know the definition of click bombing? I doubt it very much, & the same goes for family & friends, they don't know they are hurting you, in fact they really believe it's helping.

            Just make it easy on yourselves & don't involve friends & family with your Adsense sites/URLs.
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        • Profile picture of the author ozdreams
          Originally Posted by kiwiviktor81 View Post

          My approach is to tell my friend explicity not to click on my ads. The Big G sees you when you're sleeping. It sees you when awake. It knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake!
          If only it would deliver a big bag of pressies every year as well to EVERYONE LOL Instead of just those smart few
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    • Profile picture of the author ex9to5guy
      Originally Posted by thegotoguy View Post

      There isn't any real money to be made in google adsense anymore. Unless you are yanking in 5,000 uniques everyday and that might not even be enough. Depends on ad placement etc. Why are people so twisted up about adsense? The days of adsense revenue sites are GONE! If I got banned right now, I wouldn't care at all! Just my thoughts.

      Adsense revenue isnt over. There are guys that make 3 figures a day on adsense easily from just a couple of sites. Adsense is alot time and work but it can payoff
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      • Profile picture of the author thegotoguy
        As usual I have to dissect what I mean. I agree, there are people who make money with adsense. But how many? What's the biggest check you've ever gotten from adsense? Are you yanking in 6 figures? Do you personally know someone who is? Chances are half of the bloggers out there bragging about making that kind of money are liars. Adsense based blog posts with catchy titles pull in a lot of thrill seekers who hope to make money with adsense. I think people are better off marketing an affiliate product. At least you have a little control over your income that way. Adsense is NOT what it use to be.
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        • Profile picture of the author paulgl
          Originally Posted by thegotoguy View Post

          As usual I have to dissect what I mean. I agree, there are people who make money with adsense. But how many? What's the biggest check you've ever gotten from adsense? Are you yanking in 6 figures? Do you personally know someone who is? Chances are half of the bloggers out there bragging about making that kind of money are liars. Adsense based blog posts with catchy titles pull in a lot of thrill seekers who hope to make money with adsense. I think people are better off marketing an affiliate product. At least you have a little control over your income that way. Adsense is NOT what it use to be.
          This month with be my best adsense month. I make more selling ads, but anything
          adds to the bottom line. No way I would ever thumb my nose at it. You don't
          have to be a high roller. Even if it adds just $5 a day...I mean if someone
          agreed to put a five dollar bill in your hand daily, are you going to refuse it?
          Takes little or no effort to get that $5. That's $150 a month. That's $1800
          a year. It's all about perspective.

          Now take that 5 bucks and put it up to 10. Now your doing $3600 a year.

          Everything I do adds to the bottom line. If it's basically free money, I'll
          take it.

          Adsense is truly one of he closest things to "set it and forget it" that
          you can do. Why would you cancel it? Even if it was $1 a day? That's
          still $356 a year.

          I don't make any money putting my socks on daily. Am I going to stop
          doing that? If I do things that don't make me money, all the more reason
          to do things that do make me money.

          If you are talking people getting dollar signs in their eyes and just
          dreaming, that's another thing. Too many people think adsense is
          a way to instant riches. It's not. You see plenty of people here
          doing the wrong things and failing. The bottom line should be to
          not quit your day job.

          Paul
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          • Profile picture of the author ProfitsTV
            Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

            This month with be my best adsense month. I make more selling ads, but anything
            adds to the bottom line. No way I would ever thumb my nose at it. You don't
            have to be a high roller. Even if it adds just $5 a day...I mean if someone
            agreed to put a five dollar bill in your hand daily, are you going to refuse it?
            Takes little or no effort to get that $5. That's $150 a month. That's $1800
            a year. It's all about perspective.

            Now take that 5 bucks and put it up to 10. Now your doing $3600 a year.

            Everything I do adds to the bottom line. If it's basically free money, I'll
            take it.

            Adsense is truly one of he closest things to "set it and forget it" that
            you can do. Why would you cancel it? Even if it was $1 a day? That's
            still $356 a year.

            I don't make any money putting my socks on daily. Am I going to stop
            doing that? If I do things that don't make me money, all the more reason
            to do things that do make me money.

            If you are talking people getting dollar signs in their eyes and just
            dreaming, that's another thing. Too many people think adsense is
            a way to instant riches. It's not. You see plenty of people here
            doing the wrong things and failing. The bottom line should be to
            not quit your day job.

            Paul
            I once took a somewhat long break from internet marketing a while back. Left my sites up and my adsense ads on it. I was still getting checks from google here and there. No joke about set it and forget it. Getting these checks without doing anything is what sparked me to take things serious again.
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          • Profile picture of the author thegotoguy
            Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

            This month with be my best adsense month. I make more selling ads, but anything
            adds to the bottom line. No way I would ever thumb my nose at it. You don't
            have to be a high roller. Even if it adds just $5 a day...I mean if someone
            agreed to put a five dollar bill in your hand daily, are you going to refuse it?
            Takes little or no effort to get that $5. That's $150 a month. That's $1800
            a year. It's all about perspective.

            Now take that 5 bucks and put it up to 10. Now your doing $3600 a year.

            Everything I do adds to the bottom line. If it's basically free money, I'll
            take it.

            Adsense is truly one of he closest things to "set it and forget it" that
            you can do. Why would you cancel it? Even if it was $1 a day? That's
            still $356 a year.

            I don't make any money putting my socks on daily. Am I going to stop
            doing that? If I do things that don't make me money, all the more reason
            to do things that do make me money.

            If you are talking people getting dollar signs in their eyes and just
            dreaming, that's another thing. Too many people think adsense is
            a way to instant riches. It's not. You see plenty of people here
            doing the wrong things and failing. The bottom line should be to
            not quit your day job.

            Paul
            That's realistic! I wasn't aiming at you directly. You and I are in the same boat on adsense revenue. I am talking about the supposed guru's who claim to be yanking in 5 and 6 figures with adsense. These guys aren't telling you this crap for no reason! They are usually pushing a webinar or some ebook they want you to buy so that you can make money like them. The problem is that so many people believe these guys.

            Some people (SOME) are making big money with Adsense, but most people are not and never will.

            But I promise you I could write a blog post and I could say that I'm making $160,000.00 a year on average through google adsense alone and sell an ebook to teach others how they could do it too and people would believe me!

            What I find fascinating is that these guys who claim to be making all of this money selling adsense have to be making even more money selling products through their sites than they are making adsense. It's common mathematics. But why don't they brag about their product sales? Because it's all a lie! Just my opinion!
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            • Profile picture of the author guitarjosh
              Originally Posted by thegotoguy View Post

              That's realistic! I wasn't aiming at you directly. You and I are in the same boat on adsense revenue. I am talking about the supposed guru's who claim to be yanking in 5 and 6 figures with adsense. These guys aren't telling you this crap for no reason! They are usually pushing a webinar or some ebook they want you to buy so that you can make money like them. The problem is that so many people believe these guys.

              Some people (SOME) are making big money with Adsense, but most people are not and never will.

              But I promise you I could write a blog post and I could say that I'm making $160,000.00 a year on average through google adsense alone and sell an ebook to teach others how they could do it too and people would believe me!

              What I find fascinating is that these guys who claim to be making all of this money selling adsense have to be making even more money selling products through their sites than they are making adsense. It's common mathematics. But why don't they brag about their product sales? Because it's all a lie! Just my opinion!
              Still a bit presumptuous. I started adsense less than a year ago and am now making over $2000 a month... and my brother is on his 9th month using what I showed him. He made over $3000 last month (yes .. more than me and I showed him!) and we're both on track for even more this month. That's well into 5 figures.. and we do nothing except setup autoblogs for this.. install.. set and forget.. no backlinks, no off page seo of any kind. 33 total websites for him.. almost 80 for me. It's all about picking the right niche.

              And I'm no guru.. not selling anything.. not pushing anything.. just a dude who loves ez money. There is a whole lot of money to be made in adsense.

              I do fully agree that a guy pushing an adsense bootcamp of any sorts is pushing hype. If you've got a working adsense system, spend your time there, increasing your money.. or give a guy an instant solution for a price. All of those sites drip feed videos and promises for a monthly fee. Red flag right there. Don't do it.
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              • Profile picture of the author Charlie A
                There's plenty of money in adsense. But anything you can think of to work the system Google has already thought of and they are wicked smart. Don't shoot the goose that lays the golden egg. I don't tell anyone I know which sites are mine.
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            • Profile picture of the author paulgl
              Originally Posted by thegotoguy View Post

              Some people (SOME) are making big money with Adsense, but most people are not and never will.
              That I whole-heartedly agree with. This forum is filled with people getting pennies a
              click, don't realize that's quite normal, do bad things to pump it up, complain
              about getting banned or sinking further, yelling that google is a tyrant and a rip off
              because they just know they should be getting $50 a click and make $100,000
              a month.

              Me? I take whatever they give me, add it to the bottom line, look forward to the
              next day. Is my goal to hit it big, and I mean big, with adsense? You bet. But
              I am a realist. I earn money anyway I can. There are not many realists here.

              Paul
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        • Profile picture of the author batchos
          That doesn't mean you should try to cheat the system.

          Originally Posted by thegotoguy View Post

          As usual I have to dissect what I mean. I agree, there are people who make money with adsense. But how many? What's the biggest check you've ever gotten from adsense? Are you yanking in 6 figures? Do you personally know someone who is? Chances are half of the bloggers out there bragging about making that kind of money are liars. Adsense based blog posts with catchy titles pull in a lot of thrill seekers who hope to make money with adsense. I think people are better off marketing an affiliate product. At least you have a little control over your income that way. Adsense is NOT what it use to be.
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        • Profile picture of the author drvosjeca
          Originally Posted by thegotoguy View Post

          As usual I have to dissect what I mean. I agree, there are people who make money with adsense. But how many? What's the biggest check you've ever gotten from adsense? Are you yanking in 6 figures? Do you personally know someone who is? Chances are half of the bloggers out there bragging about making that kind of money are liars. Adsense based blog posts with catchy titles pull in a lot of thrill seekers who hope to make money with adsense. I think people are better off marketing an affiliate product. At least you have a little control over your income that way. Adsense is NOT what it use to be.
          Man i dont know where did you get that info!?
          Im earning 1500-2000$ per month with adsense and im more than happy with it. Why? Becouse i know i could scale it and earn more, but i dont have time. This is on set and forget now and it is bringing me nice amount of money every month. This is why i think it is worth having adsense on my sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author 36burrows
      Originally Posted by thegotoguy View Post

      There isn't any real money to be made in google adsense anymore. Unless you are yanking in 5,000 uniques everyday and that might not even be enough. Depends on ad placement etc. Why are people so twisted up about adsense? The days of adsense revenue sites are GONE! If I got banned right now, I wouldn't care at all! Just my thoughts.
      So just because you're not successful with Adsense means that no one else is either?

      Great logic
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      • Profile picture of the author kiwiviktor81
        I thought there was MORE money than ever to be made out of AdSense. More AdWords advertisers means more money, more targeted traffic, higher bids, higher CPCs, therefore more money for clicks.
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    • Profile picture of the author ttomp13
      Originally Posted by thegotoguy View Post

      There isn't any real money to be made in google adsense anymore. Unless you are yanking in 5,000 uniques everyday and that might not even be enough. Depends on ad placement etc. Why are people so twisted up about adsense? The days of adsense revenue sites are GONE! If I got banned right now, I wouldn't care at all! Just my thoughts.
      These are pretty much my thoughts too, bro... There are many problems with
      using AdSense... (which I make about $400.00 a month with, by the way).

      1. One time sale only.
      2. Not capturing emails.
      3. No future selling to the prospect.

      I could make $500.00 or more a month with just a few hundred targeted
      Aweber subscribers.

      With Aweber, if my traffic on my site gets hit, at least I still have my list...

      The whole goal is smart and passive income, folks. AdSense can provide you
      with this, but Email Marketing can increase your earning potential BIG TIME.
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    • Profile picture of the author ro1h02n4
      Originally Posted by thegotoguy View Post

      There isn't any real money to be made in google adsense anymore. Unless you are yanking in 5,000 uniques everyday and that might not even be enough. Depends on ad placement etc. Why are people so twisted up about adsense? The days of adsense revenue sites are GONE! If I got banned right now, I wouldn't care at all! Just my thoughts.
      Hi there,

      I don't know how it was before, or if all of you make >5k $/month... BUT I know that few months ago I've started to earn 11 euro cents/month, next month 1 eur/month, next one 6 eur, after that 36eur, then 102 eur and this month double again my income at 200 eur/month. Hoping next month to keep this trend and be close to 400 eur.

      This is not bragging or something like that, just a proof that AdSense works and you can live the dream even if you are a rookie like me.

      You have to work hard, believe in you and have patience.

      On topic now...don't try this. You will get banned.

      Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author salmanbaig
    Google's system is too smart....In no time they'll catch you and ban ad-serving on your account.
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  • Profile picture of the author shuvo
    Google has an improved technology to find all invalid clicks.They also track how many clicks are generating from an ip or from a country etc.So dont do this otherwise you will get the response from Google soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by Knowledge Kick View Post

    I just had a thought and I don't know the answer to it. Hopefully some people here can shine some light on it for me.

    What is to stop people, say a group of people on this forum, from forming a co-op of sorts and clicking each other's links everyday in order to generate adsense revenue for the group?

    For instance, say me and 9 other forum members visited each other's sites everyday and clicked the ads. We would all be making money for each other, right?

    1. Do people do this already?
    2. Does/Can Google catch this?
    3. Can you get money from the same ip address clicking your link more than once even if it's not your own?

    It seems like it would be too easy and too good to be true. If this in any way violates the rules of this forum I'm sorry and you can remove the post.

    Just doing some thinking

    -Steve
    Do that & your next forum thread will be this ---> http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...uggestion.html
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  • Profile picture of the author Trivum
    In any case, it's bad karma. ... What happens when you want to do ppc one day?

    I never click on Adsense ads unless I have to because I know people have to pay for that. When I'm searching and find something interesting in an ad, I copy the URL instead of clicking on it. Sometimes that doesn't work because the URL is just a prettified version, so then I have to go back and click on the ad.
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  • Profile picture of the author ljanak1
    Google can track your IP Address, so I wouldn't do that if I were you. Instead, let your backlinking skills grow slowly and push your website into the top 10!
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  • Profile picture of the author gittar1122
    Google is very smart in this regard. They will easily catch you in few weeks.

    There are many factors which Google relate while checking Fraudulent Activity like its not limited to your IP but google may relate your MAC address.

    Secondly there are so many services offered by Google like Youtube, Gmail, Picassa, Google documents, Chrome, Google Search itself. So they can relate your working habits.

    They can relate your friends clicking habit and many other things.

    So don't do that in order to save your account

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Jody_W
    I love adsense. I used adsense when i was learning to build sites, learning keyword research, learning seo, learning wordpress, learning whatever. Just put up a bunch of sites, trying different things to see what worked best for me, and put adsense on all of them. When the domain comes up for renewal, I just check to see if it's paying for itself, which it almost always is. It's not my main source of online income any more, but it's like Google has paid me to learn IM, something I was going to do anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoforu
    Well a lot of debate is going on adsense banning and adsense revenue.I will try to explain each of the two topics.

    Google would cancel your adsense account if they find your friends are clicking on the ad.So never try this!

    The revenue earned from adsense does tastes sweet because a lot of effort is invloved in it.You should get lots and lots of traffic to get some bucks hence a big effort.It's true adsense won't gives you the same money as it used to give some years before. But the good thing is there are many more ways for you to earn money like other revenue sharing sites such as chitika,adbrite,infolinks etc and getting an advertiser personally who is willing to pay $500 a month based on the number of visitors your sites receive is great! Just think about it guys!!
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    There are all kinds of click exchanges out there - don't get involved with them!

    I've found it better to not tell my friends and family my domain names, that way you don't get them poking around your online activities.
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  • Profile picture of the author axus_auto
    Just use Adsense honestly ...
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    • Profile picture of the author RevSEO
      You don't want to risk it, as others have mentioned you will be caught and you will have your account banned. Trying to even get another account is risky and you'll probably have future accounts banned as well. Google's one of those companies that once your out, your out.

      Don't mess with them and the short term "gain" simply isn't worth it in the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    The amount of money you would be able to generate from this is peanuts. If you don't think that Google wouldn't notice that a set group of IPs are clicking on your ads each day and none of them are converting, then you are dreaming.

    You will either get dropped from AdSense for low quality traffic and no conversions, or click fraud. Either way, you are out of the game, and have little to no money to show for your troubles as AdSense will not make payments for accounts banned for such things.
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  • Profile picture of the author seo-expert
    I long gave up on Google Ads after a bot or something made 60 clicks in one day.. and I got banned and Google did not accept my explanation... if you want to ruin someone's Google Ads-serving website, you'll have an idea..
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  • Profile picture of the author xylement
    google have a lot of ways to track this... they track see if it's a direct traffic or a referral, then see the time on site, conversion rate and a lot... so... you'll still end up getting your account banned =)
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  • Profile picture of the author Oranges
    WTF........!
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Unfortunately people do this already, but Google simply has to see the same bunch of IPs clicking on a regular basis and not doing anything else for them to ban all associated accounts
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    • Profile picture of the author axus_auto
      Not a very good idea ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrewsmith
    Google analytic is serving goolge a great deal. Now that every site possesses one analytic account it becomes very easy for google to monitor traffic and figure out patterns.
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    • Profile picture of the author escribe
      Yup, Google tracks everything. That's an old method and they are way past that. Try to get your sites legitimately ranked well with good content, backlinks, SEO etc. and naturally your site will eventually get up there. Take other Warriors advice - resist the urge.
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  • Profile picture of the author jacked
    Originally Posted by Knowledge Kick View Post

    I just had a thought and I don't know the answer to it. Hopefully some people here can shine some light on it for me.

    What is to stop people, say a group of people on this forum, from forming a co-op of sorts and clicking each other's links everyday in order to generate adsense revenue for the group?

    For instance, say me and 9 other forum members visited each other's sites everyday and clicked the ads. We would all be making money for each other, right?

    1. Do people do this already?
    2. Does/Can Google catch this?
    3. Can you get money from the same ip address clicking your link more than once even if it's not your own?

    It seems like it would be too easy and too good to be true. If this in any way violates the rules of this forum I'm sorry and you can remove the post.

    Just doing some thinking

    -Steve
    Lol a bunch of people from another forum I frequent (bodybuilding.com) tried this method with a bunch of blogger blogs. They all got banned within 2 days, around 50 of them got banned in 2 days.
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    Yup you can be sure you'll get your ass banned if you do that. Take it from someone who's been there. =/
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