Linkvana vs. Build My Rank vs. SEO Linkvine vs. Article Ranks Pro- Rankings Update 8/11

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Linkvana vs. Build My Rank vs. SEO Linkvine vs. Article Ranks Pro


UPDATE 8/11 - FOR LATEST RANKINGS UPDATE PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO MY LATEST POST OR CLICK THE LINK
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Like many of you SEO is a big part of my life. I have followed Warrior Forum for some time and had never actually contributed all that much. However, I then came across ElectronPlumbers thread about using Build My Rank and several other link building methods. I was then inspired to complete my own content network link building test.

I then researched a few of the top content networks available online. I had read a lot of mixed reviews and thought why not just take 3 of the top networks and try them out regardless of the reviews. To be honest I bet there are a lot of fake reviews from site owners or affiliates (both positive and negative). However, I wanted to set out to give each network a fresh unbiased test. While I am only testing 3 sites right now I will test a lot more in the future. My hope is to test 3 sites ever 2-3 months.

If you are anything like me the cynic in you is now asking what is this guys endgame, why would anyone share SEO tips that could be valuable. Call me an optimist but I believe there is enough room for all of us. As I share case studies and more information I hope other people will continue to share their case studies. Thus helping me in the long run...
For this round I will be testing Linkvana vs. Build My Rank vs. SEO Linkvine.


Test Set Up:

For my case study I will be testing 3 unique domains within a highly competitive niche. The keyword I am targeting has around 1,200-2,000 searches per month and is probably a niche most people are really competing for. I will not be sharing my actual domains or links because I fear Google slamming my test. Not that I feel I am doing anything wrong you just need to be careful. I am hosting these domains on a SEO host so that they have completely separate unique c-class servers. They are even located on servers that are across the Country.


On page Optimization: I will be performing basic on page optimization for each domain. I will include the specific keyword I am testing in the page title, description, content etc. However, I will try to keep all test pages equal so that there is no impact on the actual rankings.


Linkbuilding: For each domain I will be writing 3-6 articles every week for each network. I will be writing the articles myself to better track how much time/effort it takes to attain a certain ranking within a content network. These will hopefully help you better estimate your own time and effort it would take to attain a ranking.

I will try to report the PR of the article when it goes live but there is a good chance this might not be possible. As I dive deeper into the content networks I might add more reporting info.


Rankings: Every week I will be updating my actual rankings here on Warrior forum. I submitted my first batch of articles around the 17th so my first update of rankings will be coming around June 23rd.

Please let me know if there is any reporting you want to see and I might add it. Hit me up on twitter or check out my profile here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vexo
    Sounds good. I am also testing out Linkvana at the moment will see how it goes. Looking forward to your results and good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author PromoDirect
    I will be eager to check your case study. I checked all the three services... they all sounds interesting.
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    • Profile picture of the author packerfan
      I love these tests, hopefully you can keep us updated. I've had great luck with BMR, but haven't tried the others. All of these I've read though, BMR wins by a landslide. Will be interesting to see how yours turns out.
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  • Profile picture of the author andrewellis3
    I'm just a mouse click away from joining BMR but is it me that thinks the more popular it gets the lower the page ranks will become from OBL'S, suppose thats just a thing that wil always happen.....I watch this thread with beady eyes
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  • Profile picture of the author RevSEO
    I'm looking forward to your results, I've personally used all of these services and I'm fairly certain I know whos gonna come out on top.

    You may also want to add up the time involved with each service as well, since BMR requires unique content vs SEO Linkvine. I'd be curious to see the results with this info.
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    • Profile picture of the author exodusms
      Originally Posted by RevSEO View Post

      I'm looking forward to your results, I've personally used all of these services and I'm fairly certain I know whos gonna come out on top.

      You may also want to add up the time involved with each service as well, since BMR requires unique content vs SEO Linkvine. I'd be curious to see the results with this info.
      When I originally thought about the test I was actually going to base the linkbuilding on hours. However, I decided I would only base it on articles posted so they are all exactly even. Although I am spinning the linkvine articles before they are being submitted.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarksWineClub
    Rev,

    That's a good point. Writing the 150 word snippets isn't that quick. 10 a day, 5 days a week is going to take a couple of hours or you're going to incur an additional cost.

    That being said, results are results and BMR is priced fairly for what it does.
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  • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
    I have found BMR to be useful, but not the end-all-be-all. I've had some high competitive keywords not budge, while others rise. I just use it as part of my overall link building strategy, one which didn't include BMR several months ago. I have found it shaves time off how long it takes to get ranked...that is worth the monthly subscription costs. My problem is I have 20 domains in their system and I absolutely do not want to expand to their 50 domain plan...
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    • Profile picture of the author packerfan
      Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

      I have found BMR to be useful, but not the end-all-be-all. I've had some high competitive keywords not budge, while others rise. I just use it as part of my overall link building strategy, one which didn't include BMR several months ago. I have found it shaves time off how long it takes to get ranked...that is worth the monthly subscription costs. My problem is I have 20 domains in their system and I absolutely do not want to expand to their 50 domain plan...
      You just need to build more sites. ;-)

      But I agree with you on the other points. It's not a silver bullet, but is a powerful part of bigger picture.
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      • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
        Originally Posted by packerfan View Post

        You just need to build more sites. ;-)

        But I agree with you on the other points. It's not a silver bullet, but is a powerful part of bigger picture.
        Actually, I'm taking your advice and converting those 400-500 BMR posts into fresh articles for some article marketing baby!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan79
    Great case study, I am using BMR also and looking to see your result.
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    • Profile picture of the author exodusms
      If anyone else is currently testing any of these networks could you please keep track of your results?

      I would love to get everyone's results and create a master list of case studies so we can all compare results.
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      • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
        Originally Posted by exodusms View Post

        If anyone else is currently testing any of these networks could you please keep track of your results?

        I would love to get everyone's results and create a master list of case studies so we can all compare results.
        Doing a quick look at two sites that were brand new with 5-6 keywords each, it took 30 posts to get 3 first page rankings and the other 2 on page 2(ironically, both sites for the same overall results). These are all local with less than 300 exact match searches though.

        The guy is paying me cheap, so all he gets are BMR articles. So at least we know it works for low comp keywords.

        I have results with all my projects, but the others involve much more than just BMR - so those two be my only case studies for you.
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        • Profile picture of the author mytoy78
          Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

          Doing a quick look at two sites that were brand new with 5-6 keywords each, it took 30 posts to get 3 first page rankings and the other 2 on page 2(ironically, both sites for the same overall results). These are all local with less than 300 exact match searches though.

          The guy is paying me cheap, so all he gets are BMR articles. So at least we know it works for low comp keywords.

          I have results with all my projects, but the others involve much more than just BMR - so those two be my only case studies for you.

          Hi there,

          Can I just clarify that you gave each 'local' keyword 30 posts, or you gave 30 posts overall?

          I've been using BMR for ages and know that it is effective, but I'm really trying to 'chisel' down and finds out how many posts it takes to rank certain keywords.

          I've found the results from my own testings inconsistent, as the majority of the sites I use 'BMR' with are my client's...and have had other work done on them before I take over their seo.

          Thanks for your imput in advance

          mytoy78
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          • Profile picture of the author jamesbondsmate
            I am currently using BMR for 3 sites. I will post updates.

            I have one site in a low competition keyword and two in moderate/high.

            It will be interesting to see the effect and the PR distribution.

            Cheers,

            James
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          • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
            Originally Posted by mytoy78 View Post

            Hi there,

            Can I just clarify that you gave each 'local' keyword 30 posts, or you gave 30 posts overall?

            I've been using BMR for ages and know that it is effective, but I'm really trying to 'chisel' down and finds out how many posts it takes to rank certain keywords.

            I've found the results from my own testings inconsistent, as the majority of the sites I use 'BMR' with are my client's...and have had other work done on them before I take over their seo.

            Thanks for your imput in advance

            mytoy78
            30 posts overall for LOCAL BUSINESS keywords - about 5-6 posts per keyword per month. For low volume, high comp keywords, I have yet to get beyond page 2 with the brand new site with no other SEO having been done - but only two months in, so not much to complain about.
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  • Profile picture of the author exodusms
    Update: 6/24/11 - Week 1
    Welcome to week one of my Linkvana vs. Build My Rank vs. SEO Linkvine test.

    Last weekend I wrote and posted a total of seven articles to each content network. If you have not read my overview to the test go to page 1 of this thread. If you visit my blog you will see a complete break out of what the page rank was for each article domain. You will be able to see how long an article stayed on the front page of each domain. However, let's jump into the actual rankings.

    Build My Rank:
    Ranking = Page 17

    After just seven articles I have gone from nowhere to page 17. These are great results especially for a week period. I also started tracking a bunch of other keywords that are closely related and I am actually on page 24 for a more competitive term. I did not target this second keyword in any of my linkbuidling so this is a great surprise. As of 6/22 all seven of my articles on Build My Rank had been indexed by Google. Build My Rank also has a great dashboard that actually shows you the distribution of page rank for your articles. (You can see screenshots at my blog)

    SEO Linkvine:
    Ranking = Page 27

    For SEO Linkvine I submitted seven original articles with spin syntax build in. Because each article is spun before delivered to the blog the article will reside on I am not sure how to track it. SEO Linkvine also does not really provide any methods to see where it was posted to. They do offer a "live" number but I am not sure how accurate it is. Either way I have gone from no rankings to page 27 in the last week.

    Linkvana:
    I had some pretty high expectations for this network because of the cost. However, after week one I am still not seeing my domain in the top 300 results. When I checked my articles today 6/7 had been indexed so they should be passing link juice.

    Conclusion:
    I have to say I am pretty disappointed in Linkvana. However, it has only been a week so I expect them to come roaring back. Early indicators show Build My Rank is looking really good. This weekend I will be adding six more articles to each network and have updated rankings next Thursday.

    Linkvana vs. BMR vs. SEO Linkvine - Test Overview (not allowed to add links yet. Just go to the 1st post in this thread)
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    • Profile picture of the author hagendazz07
      Thx exodusms, you pretty much convinced me to go with BMR.

      Nice post
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      • Profile picture of the author exodusms
        Originally Posted by hagendazz07 View Post

        Thx exodusms, you pretty much convinced me to go with BMR.

        Nice post
        I wouldn't go with them just yet, this has only been the first week in the test. I will be testing each of these networks for a few months so I would wait to see what happens. At the very least I would wait just a couple more weeks to see how each network performs.
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      • Profile picture of the author toponewebresult
        Originally Posted by hagendazz07 View Post

        Thx exodusms, you pretty much convinced me to go with BMR.

        Nice post
        Those blog networks really the best. i used those blog networks many times an I see the impact not only in BMR but all of them.
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    • Profile picture of the author anistars
      Originally Posted by exodusms View Post

      So for this second domain I will be testing Article Ranks Pro. If you want more data about the network or actual article be sure to visit my blog.
      I was trying hard but did not find any info about AR on your blog... How are the results?

      I switched to AR just now from SLV but now thinking about joining BMR, or is AMA better? What would you guys choose if you had 1 thing to pick? AR, BMR or may be MYArticleNetwork?
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  • Profile picture of the author siddharthslm
    i too heard, linkvana/linkvine works better than anything, faster !
    do let us know once your test is up
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    • Profile picture of the author exodusms
      Originally Posted by internetmadeeasy View Post

      I did not like SEO Linkvine i got 56 articles on there but the backlinks are still not showing i quit SEO link vine..
      Ya I have not heard great things about SEO linkvine but I wanted to give them a fair unbiased test.

      To be honest they are actually out performing Linkvana so far but we will see what the next few weeks hold for them.
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      • Profile picture of the author DomH
        Does anybody regularly get 10 posts a day distributed by BMR? I have it set for 7-10 and have around 90 queued posts but have only once got 10 posts in a day during the last few weeks, normally 7 or 8 and sometimes only 5. There should be a setting to specify 10 distributed posts a day because that is what we are paying for.
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  • Profile picture of the author andrewellis3
    great thread!!!! please keep us posted
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  • Profile picture of the author ElectronPlumber
    Glad to see I inspired you! It's great to see more actual experimenting going on out there. Hopefully this starts a trend where more people actually provide useful data based on experimentation rather than the opinion arguments people make over and over again.

    I have a ton of questions for you though...

    1) How close are your domains? Are they very different? Do they include your keywords?
    2) Can you provide data about the keywords you are going for? Not the niche itself, but how many exact searches per month, number of sites with that keyword allinurl, allintitle, etc.
    3) Do you have a control site? Meaning one that shows that your link building service results aren't just a coincidence by having a 4th site that you build no links to.
    4) How old are these sites? Did you register them all at the same time or different times?

    Keep it up, and keep posting results!
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    • Profile picture of the author exodusms
      Originally Posted by ElectronPlumber View Post

      1) How close are your domains? Are they very different? Do they include your keywords?
      2) Can you provide data about the keywords you are going for? Not the niche itself, but how many exact searches per month, number of sites with that keyword allinurl, allintitle, etc.
      3) Do you have a control site? Meaning one that shows that your link building service results aren't just a coincidence by having a 4th site that you build no links to.
      4) How old are these sites? Did you register them all at the same time or different times?

      Keep it up, and keep posting results!
      1) My domains are different in the fact they are completely random. None of the domains contain the keyword or any related keyword. I wanted to do my best to ensure domain and on page metrics did not affect its outcome.

      2) You can see a lot of that information on my blog.

      3) I don't have a control site but I think it is safe to assume that a site will not climb in the SERPS like my test sites if they do not have links. Although in future tests I may add a control.

      4) All my sites are pretty new and had no history. I registered them all about the same time with different hosting companies.

      UPDATE:

      While this is not a rankings update it is an update about the content networks. I think all the content networks took a huge hit on there domains PR. I have looked at both Linkavana and BMR links and they report a PR when there is actually none on the domain.

      I am sure they are all actively working on this but it will be interesting to see the results of this and next weeks rankings with this update. Please note that I understand PR is actually not the end all of why a site has juice. However, Google taking PR sites from 3 to 0 is usually a bad sign.

      Please keep in mind that this PR slip has not happened on every link I have with these networks. In my next update I will actually show you what percentage of my links domains had a loss in PR. That way we can compare each networks ability to keep PR after an update.
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  • Profile picture of the author tankteam
    Hi,

    Thanks for taking the time to test these 3 services.

    i plan to give seo linkvine a try, i found 2 clickbank links with special price of $47 instead of $67. The item title is "SEOLinkVine Membership Special Offer" instead of the "SEOLinkVine Membership" from the official website. The item number is 281 instead of 101. I wonder if it is official and real seo linkvine clickbank link? anyone have real discounted link? TQ.

    https : // ssl . clickbank . net /order/orderform.html?time=1309523357&vvvv=73656f6c76&ite m=281&cbskin=192&cbfid=205&cbf=PCDWEP2FD2&vvar=cbf id%3D205%26cbskin%3D192

    https : // ssl . clickbank . net /order/orderform.html?time=1309523416&vvvv=73656f6c76&ite m=281
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  • Profile picture of the author seothatworks
    there also article ranks and aln, i think build my rank works best for me
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    • Profile picture of the author indie08
      Yes, all you need is BMR. It is the utmost quality network in my opinion. I have a friend in the SEO industry who has been using them for about a year and is absolutely crushing it. I just put 3 domains into the network and am in the process of writing between 15-17 posts for each site. They are EMD's and are in medium competition niches. I'll post my results in a couple weeks!

      Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author gamer90
    Awesome Thread buddy. Really interesting stuff. Keep it going!
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    • Profile picture of the author packerfan
      Any ranking update?

      I'm still seeing good results with BMR but I'm anxious to see how this plays out.
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      • Profile picture of the author frogman
        I have been using linkvana and seo link vine for quite some time with ok results for low to medium competition keywords.
        I just started using bmr to test them out.
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  • Profile picture of the author indie08
    Quick update, I decided to increase the post count to 50-57 posts for each of my 3 websites. I want to give BMR a good test run..I'm going to drip feed 1-3 posts per day.
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  • Profile picture of the author indie08
    Sorry, one more thing. The average PR on the front page for each of my main kw's totals about 25-28. And average domain age of about 15 years. Can't wait to see the results!
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    • Profile picture of the author packerfan
      Originally Posted by indie08 View Post

      Sorry, one more thing. The average PR on the front page for each of my main kw's totals about 25-28. And average domain age of about 15 years. Can't wait to see the results!
      What do you mean the average PR is 25-28? I'm confused.
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      • Profile picture of the author indie08
        Originally Posted by packerfan View Post

        What do you mean the average PR is 25-28? I'm confused.
        I simply added the domain PR's from the top 10 results for the keyword I'm competing for. So, about medium to medium-high competition..
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  • Profile picture of the author indie08
    Has anyone here tried using BMR to get a website out of the sandbox? I have 2 other domains that are nowhere to be found. If so, what is the best approach? They were great converting sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author packerfan
      Originally Posted by indie08 View Post

      Has anyone here tried using BMR to get a website out of the sandbox? I have 2 other domains that are nowhere to be found. If so, what is the best approach? They were great converting sites.
      BMR isn't a magic bullet, but it does give you high PR contextual backlinks. The sites that I use it on have not been "sandboxed"

      Lots of people see success getting out of the sandbox by continually getting high PR links. Easiest/best way I know of to get them is BMR.
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      • Profile picture of the author indie08
        Originally Posted by packerfan View Post

        BMR isn't a magic bullet, but it does give you high PR contextual backlinks. The sites that I use it on have not been "sandboxed"

        Lots of people see success getting out of the sandbox by continually getting high PR links. Easiest/best way I know of to get them is BMR.
        Thank you for your response. Yes, I know BMR is not the magic bullet by any means..I now know the importance of a well balanced link portfolio. The sites I mentioned I did some crap x rumer blasts on them when I was a newbie, now I'm going to attempt to get them ranked again..
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      • Profile picture of the author Han Fan
        Originally Posted by packerfan View Post

        BMR isn't a magic bullet, but it does give you high PR contextual backlinks. The sites that I use it on have not been "sandboxed"

        Lots of people see success getting out of the sandbox by continually getting high PR links. Easiest/best way I know of to get them is BMR.

        To get out sandbox, you need diversity of links increase, domain, and # of links increase... in a constant rate...


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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    BMR is supposedly the "best" network of this kind, however there are more networks like this. SEOLV and LV..i didnt expect any other results since there are enough reviews out there already.

    Would have been more interesting with articleranks (which is supposedly very good also) and ALN (authority link network). I am using those two but cant say which one is "better" since i use both of them at the same time. SEOLV i gave up a long time ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author exodusms
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      BMR is supposedly the "best" network of this kind, however there are more networks like this. SEOLV and LV..i didnt expect any other results since there are enough reviews out there already.

      Would have been more interesting with articleranks (which is supposedly very good also) and ALN (authority link network). I am using those two but cant say which one is "better" since i use both of them at the same time. SEOLV i gave up a long time ago.
      George,

      I completely agree with you on another network for testing. Therefore I will be adding another domain that I can test against the others. While this new domain is 2 weeks behind the results should still be the same (just 2 weeks behind).

      For my fourth domain I will be testing Article Ranks Pro based off what you had to say about them.

      Rankings updates will be coming soon... So sorry I had been away for vacation.
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  • Profile picture of the author keblack
    Interesting thread - thanks for doing this as I was just about to join Linkvana to improve the rankings of the 100 plus sites I have. I am concerned about the cost involved in having posts written for all though. I also found out about linkamotion.com recently - not sure how popular that one is yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew S
    Im surprised you put a crapper like seolv next to these 2 giants, but i look forward to this study nonetheless.
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  • Profile picture of the author rdisr
    I joined SEO Linkvine to get content for several of my blogs but the quality of the content I received was SO bad that I've discontinued the service.

    I'm really looking forward to your conclusions between LinkVana and Build My Rank. I've been using LinkVana for about two months and I'm pleased with the results so far.
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    • Profile picture of the author exodusms
      Week 3/4 Rank Update:

      So at the beginning of July all my test sites lost there rankings. The pages are still in Google's index but they are no longer in the top 1000 search results. I am not sure what happened but here are my hypothesis.

      a. Panda attack - the value of my links were heavily devalued from the latest update and my rankings reflect that change.

      Has anyone seen there rankings drop in the last few weeks? If anyone has seen a drop we might be able to figure out if it truly was panda or something else. Because I relied only on the content networks I would think a devaluation would be felt worse then a website that used different types of linkbuilding.

      b. Google found my test sites
      Not very likely but you never know.
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      • Profile picture of the author mitoshthewarrior
        Originally Posted by exodusms View Post

        Week 3/4 Rank Update:

        So at the beginning of July all my test sites lost there rankings. The pages are still in Google's index but they are no longer in the top 1000 search results. I am not sure what happened but here are my hypothesis.

        a. Panda attack - the value of my links were heavily devalued from the latest update and my rankings reflect that change.

        Has anyone seen there rankings drop in the last few weeks? If anyone has seen a drop we might be able to figure out if it truly was panda or something else. Because I relied only on the content networks I would think a devaluation would be felt worse then a website that used different types of linkbuilding.

        b. Google found my test sites
        Not very likely but you never know.
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      • Profile picture of the author jsmith2482
        Happened to me too. Started using 1 Way Links 2 weeks ago and I went from 3k visitors to 500. Hoping it goes back up.

        Originally Posted by exodusms View Post

        Week 3/4 Rank Update:

        So at the beginning of July all my test sites lost there rankings. The pages are still in Google's index but they are no longer in the top 1000 search results. I am not sure what happened but here are my hypothesis.

        a. Panda attack - the value of my links were heavily devalued from the latest update and my rankings reflect that change.

        Has anyone seen there rankings drop in the last few weeks? If anyone has seen a drop we might be able to figure out if it truly was panda or something else. Because I relied only on the content networks I would think a devaluation would be felt worse then a website that used different types of linkbuilding.

        b. Google found my test sites
        Not very likely but you never know.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOBestTips
    As with any backlinking method, DO NOT abuse them. BMR/Linkvine/etc are very very easy for Google to identify footprints and manipulation. Make this a percentage of your linking, but do not allow it to be a majority of your linking methods. You will build a footprint overtime that can/will be penalized by Google.

    That being said, keep the content unique and well written, you'll gain the most out of lesser posts this way and keep a small footprint on the web.
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    • Profile picture of the author Aaron Elliott
      Originally Posted by SEOBestTips View Post

      As with any backlinking method, DO NOT abuse them. BMR/Linkvine/etc are very very easy for Google to identify footprints and manipulation. Make this a percentage of your linking, but do not allow it to be a majority of your linking methods. You will build a footprint overtime that can/will be penalized by Google.

      That being said, keep the content unique and well written, you'll gain the most out of lesser posts this way and keep a small footprint on the web.
      From my results this couldnt be further from the truth. The vast majority of my link building is article spinning to these networks and have given me much better results for much less costs compared to comment/forum/doc sharing type link building which takes many man hours and is much more expensive.

      My very first affiliate site I created in early 2009 I used AMA to build 90% of the links and traffic is still increasing to this day from the simply due to the spin articles which I last submitted over a year ago. I only started building more links to this site this month to improve some rankings.

      Hands down submitting spun content across the web to high PR blogs is the best way to rank in Google.


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      • Profile picture of the author Jonyeoo
        sorry, just asking what is AMA?
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        • Profile picture of the author Tumpo
          Originally Posted by Jonyeoo View Post

          sorry, just asking what is AMA?
          Article marketing automation
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          • Profile picture of the author netprospector
            I just signed up for BMR. Looks promising. One thing I noticed is that each post i make will get one post on their network. My understanding is that with the 5 domain plan they will post up to 10 per day per domain meaning theoretically 1500 links or 300 per domain in a month. Other than possible concerns over looking unnatural it would seem that the limiting factor may be the making/paying for the posts to be created. Paying for the content creation may cost many times the monthly service.

            I am not sure how linkvana treats this. It seems some of the services like AMA or UAW may allow for more links for less authoring effort/cost. I believe that UAW wants three copies of the same article (but at least 400 words) that they spin out to multiple sites on a paragraph basis. I am not sure how that affects the link quality or effectiveness vs. more original content.

            In the test it would be good to summarize the effort/cost of the authoring involved.

            BTW as stated above I started my BMR trial today. Any advice or resources for how to best utilize it. Things like many posts on few keywords or many keywords with a few posts each, etc. How much is too much. Any good outsourcers to recommend, etc.
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            • Profile picture of the author theverysmartguy
              Originally Posted by netprospector View Post

              BTW as stated above I started my BMR trial today. Any advice or resources for how to best utilize it. Things like many posts on few keywords or many keywords with a few posts each, etc. How much is too much. Any good outsourcers to recommend, etc.
              Since you only have 10 links for your trial, use them all on one page/post. Since it is ONLY 10, you can test it out by using the same anchor text.

              When I first joined up with them, I used the trial to test it out. I Wrote all 10 posts myself, and used 8 of them for 1 keyword and 2 for another one ( both pointing to the same page ).

              Just with those initial links that post shot up to the first page for both keywords. They initially were sitting around the 5th at the time.

              Just remember to have your on page SEO optimized as good as possible, this helps out the off page SEO quite a bit.

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              • Profile picture of the author theverysmartguy
                Oh, one more thing that I forgot; most people know this already, but I will say it again:

                The competition of your chosen keywords will determine the effectiveness of your back linking strategies.
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              • Profile picture of the author consultant1027
                This is very informative and interesting. I was reading some other BMR related threads and there seems to be a significant concern that using BMR is risky for future updates to the Google algo. Some people reported penalization using BMR post-Panda but this thread contradicts that which leads me to believe many people using BR are probably doing other grey/black hat things and they can't be sure what caused the penalty and due to timing just assumed it was BMR?

                Doesn't using BMR technically go against Google's Webmaster Guidelines?
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                • Profile picture of the author theverysmartguy
                  Originally Posted by consultant1027 View Post


                  Doesn't using BMR technically go against Google's Webmaster Guidelines?
                  Technically creating back links of ANY kind in hopes of having an EFFECT on your google ranking goes against the guidelines. They want "natural" linking. Are they blind to what people do? Of course not. This is why it is always in a persons best interest to build your links slowly to start, and build up as time goes on.

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                  • Profile picture of the author netprospector
                    Originally Posted by theverysmartguy View Post

                    Technically creating back links of ANY kind in hopes of having an EFFECT on your google ranking goes against the guidelines. They want "natural" linking. Are they blind to what people do? Of course not. This is why it is always in a persons best interest to build your links slowly to start, and build up as time goes on.

                    -- Jeff
                    Jeff,

                    For a relatively new site, any feedback on what is enough to make a difference without being too much. One of the things that concerns me with BMR is being able to write or pay for enough content to make it worth while. In theory you could have 10 posts per domain per day. That sounds intimidating to me but that may be overkill for the first month or two. Any thoughts?

                    That is one of the reasons I don't think Google would as likely to penalize BMR as other approaches, if BMR enforces their guidelines that is a lot of unique content.

                    I am hoping we get an update on the test that started this thread and some feedback on the cost/effort involved with the different services for content creation. I think that is an important factor.

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              • Profile picture of the author netprospector
                If you don't mind me asking. What kind of competition did the keywords have? Search volume, number of uniques, etc?
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            • Profile picture of the author netprospector
              Originally Posted by netprospector View Post

              I just signed up for BMR. Looks promising. One thing I noticed is that each post i make will get one post on their network. My understanding is that with the 5 domain plan they will post up to 10 per day per domain meaning theoretically 1500 links or 300 per domain in a month. Other than possible concerns over looking unnatural it would seem that the limiting factor may be the making/paying for the posts to be created. Paying for the content creation may cost many times the monthly service.

              I am not sure how linkvana treats this. It seems some of the services like AMA or UAW may allow for more links for less authoring effort/cost. I believe that UAW wants three copies of the same article (but at least 400 words) that they spin out to multiple sites on a paragraph basis. I am not sure how that affects the link quality or effectiveness vs. more original content.

              In the test it would be good to summarize the effort/cost of the authoring involved.

              BTW as stated above I started my BMR trial today. Any advice or resources for how to best utilize it. Things like many posts on few keywords or many keywords with a few posts each, etc. How much is too much. Any good outsourcers to recommend, etc.
              Some Results from my BMR trial:

              For my trial I have 5 posts on one keyword, 3 on another, and one each on 2 other keywords.

              For the one with 5 posts. It averages 33K searches month, 413 unique websites. Today I popped from not being in the top 200 to #13 on Google.

              The 3 post keyword which averages 12K monthly searches and 462 unique sites went from 78 to 24 in the last couple of days.

              If these seem to stick over the next few days I will definitely continue with a 5 domain subscription.
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  • Profile picture of the author c0ach
    Could it be the Google Dance?
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  • Profile picture of the author mytoy78
    I know this is repeated again and again and again, but even though I think 'bmr' is the mutt's nuts, it should only ever be part of your conquest for higher serps.

    I'd consider seriously think about your keyword diversity, or in other words how many junk links you are leaving:

    "click here" "www.yourdomain.com" "for more information"

    This is better than just plugging your main keyword, as the big G is certainly going to pick up on that!
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  • Profile picture of the author dirtyhair
    Hey there, I just thought I would throw my two cents in. I have used these 3 and other networks over the last year I can say that over that time I have submitted 100's of articles into each network. I ran a test over the last few months to track how many times our articles were being published on the blog networks like AR, ALN, AMA and SLV.

    It seems that Seolinkvine has published our articles around 15 times per article (as an example you get around 30 publishes from AR). I have also noticed that quite a few articles get published with them only around 5 times, and other articles 20 times. This is not consistent nor great for a linkbuilder. I opened a ticket about this issue a few months ago and they replied "try adding more categories!"

    I thought having 15 - 20 categories would have been enough...

    I hesitiated for a few months because I didn't want to mess with our (working) formula but I have no CANCELLED my Seo Link Vine account due to the fat that it has such a low publish rate, the submission are very inconsistent and on a few keyphrases I ran tests and saw next to no results. In my opinion it is overpriced and you get nothing for it.

    Hope it Helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author exodusms
      Originally Posted by dirtyhair View Post

      Hey there, I just thought I would throw my two cents in. I have used these 3 and other networks over the last year I can say that over that time I have submitted 100's of articles into each network. I ran a test over the last few months to track how many times our articles were being published on the blog networks like AR, ALN, AMA and SLV.

      It seems that Seolinkvine has published our articles around 15 times per article (as an example you get around 30 publishes from AR). I have also noticed that quite a few articles get published with them only around 5 times, and other articles 20 times. This is not consistent nor great for a linkbuilder. I opened a ticket about this issue a few months ago and they replied "try adding more categories!"

      I thought having 15 - 20 categories would have been enough...

      I hesitiated for a few months because I didn't want to mess with our (working) formula but I have no CANCELLED my Seo Link Vine account due to the fat that it has such a low publish rate, the submission are very inconsistent and on a few keyphrases I ran tests and saw next to no results. In my opinion it is overpriced and you get nothing for it.

      Hope it Helps!
      Thanks for the input. How did each of these networks perform against eachother?

      Originally Posted by c0ach View Post

      Could it be the Google Dance?
      It could. I will continue to build links and see if I can come back out of it. No need to hit the panic button yet.

      Originally Posted by SEOBestTips View Post

      As with any backlinking method, DO NOT abuse them. BMR/Linkvine/etc are very very easy for Google to identify footprints and manipulation. Make this a percentage of your linking, but do not allow it to be a majority of your linking methods. You will build a footprint overtime that can/will be penalized by Google.

      That being said, keep the content unique and well written, you'll gain the most out of lesser posts this way and keep a small footprint on the web.
      Agree these networks can't be abused, which is why I have kept it to around 3-5 UNIQUE articles per week. That being said everyone of my articles has been placed on a unique domain.
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    • Profile picture of the author anistars
      Originally Posted by dirtyhair View Post

      Hey there, I just thought I would throw my two cents in. I have used these 3 and other networks over the last year I can say that over that time I have submitted 100's of articles into each network. I ran a test over the last few months to track how many times our articles were being published on the blog networks like AR, ALN, AMA and SLV.

      It seems that Seolinkvine has published our articles around 15 times per article (as an example you get around 30 publishes from AR). I have also noticed that quite a few articles get published with them only around 5 times, and other articles 20 times. This is not consistent nor great for a linkbuilder. I opened a ticket about this issue a few months ago and they replied "try adding more categories!"

      I thought having 15 - 20 categories would have been enough...

      I hesitiated for a few months because I didn't want to mess with our (working) formula but I have no CANCELLED my Seo Link Vine account due to the fat that it has such a low publish rate, the submission are very inconsistent and on a few keyphrases I ran tests and saw next to no results. In my opinion it is overpriced and you get nothing for it.

      Hope it Helps!
      I agree with you. I don't understand: I spoke to the support so many times for the same exact reason of slow submission rate (I wasn't not getting anywhere with that) and eventually had to cancel the membership and see I'm not the only one on this. I'm sure Brad knows about it, I wonder whether he's doing anything... Should I ask him directly? Or does it matter if I'm already with another one?
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    • Profile picture of the author avatar9812
      Agree, I think Seolinkvine is a little over-priced.
      Originally Posted by dirtyhair View Post

      Hey there, I just thought I would throw my two cents in. I have used these 3 and other networks over the last year I can say that over that time I have submitted 100's of articles into each network. I ran a test over the last few months to track how many times our articles were being published on the blog networks like AR, ALN, AMA and SLV.

      It seems that Seolinkvine has published our articles around 15 times per article (as an example you get around 30 publishes from AR). I have also noticed that quite a few articles get published with them only around 5 times, and other articles 20 times. This is not consistent nor great for a linkbuilder. I opened a ticket about this issue a few months ago and they replied "try adding more categories!"

      I thought having 15 - 20 categories would have been enough...

      I hesitiated for a few months because I didn't want to mess with our (working) formula but I have no CANCELLED my Seo Link Vine account due to the fat that it has such a low publish rate, the submission are very inconsistent and on a few keyphrases I ran tests and saw next to no results. In my opinion it is overpriced and you get nothing for it.

      Hope it Helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaikat
    Great approach, appreciate it
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    Did you mix up your anchor text?
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    • Profile picture of the author exodusms
      Originally Posted by JamesGw View Post

      Did you mix up your anchor text?
      No I did not so that I could see the initial impact for just one keyword. Although I will be mixing it from here on out. I mean I have only generated about 12 articles per test page so I would hope 12 links didn't cause these issues.

      Anyone at all see any declines in content network rankings?
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      • Profile picture of the author indie08
        I personally have seen excellent results with bmr..starting to achieve top rankings. However, I'm also using other methods of backlinking. I use software submissions, automatic backlink creator plugin, videos and bmr. I actually just pulled 2 of my sites out of the sandbox with this combo!!..
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        • Profile picture of the author indie08
          Sorry, I also forgot to mention I added all my sites to Jonathan Legers 3way link network about 5 days ago as well..
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      • Profile picture of the author chukcha
        Originally Posted by exodusms View Post

        No I did not so that I could see the initial impact for just one keyword. Although I will be mixing it from here on out. I mean I have only generated about 12 articles per test page so I would hope 12 links didn't cause these issues.

        Anyone at all see any declines in content network rankings?
        Yes my site is about 6 month old and have been dancing a lot lately.
        I'm doing about 3-5 500 words posts on BMR and UAW and I was on page 3 on google but now as of last 2 days seeing decline. It's very weird I jump on page one at the bottom in the start on july from page 5 then go down rapidly to page 3 then stay there for a week and now down to page 4. Very frustrating.
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  • Profile picture of the author dirtyhair
    you asked
    Anyone at all see any declines in content network rankings?
    yes. i am watching a site now that has age 10 years, pr 2. the guys sells offline stuff. with about 10 br links he moved up t pos 5/6 for his keyword, stayed there for around 2 weeks and is now moving down and has settled at 10/11.

    you get quick results from bmr but the real good juice is only for a few weeks. after that it is the other networks that come in to play as they drip it out, and it takes time for google to index your articles. seolinkvine say they have about 95% index rate, article ranks reckons they have about 75-80% index rate. linkvana i have never used.

    try adding a pingback to your seolinkvine post (if you are not using wordpress) the you can track the links, then run them thru an energizer package
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  • Profile picture of the author keblack
    So, maybe BMR and the others are not a good idea if google is aware of most of their sites ?
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  • Profile picture of the author RevSEO
    Sounds like you are experiencing a Google dance. Don't freak out yet. This is normal for most linkbuilding campaigns on domains. They'll experience the dance, bounce back to the supplemental section, and then regain their rankings.

    I've had this happen for a number of domains, each time my heart jumps a little bit but I've become more and more accustomed to it.
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    • Profile picture of the author exodusms
      Originally Posted by RevSEO View Post

      Sounds like you are experiencing a Google dance. Don't freak out yet. This is normal for most linkbuilding campaigns on domains. They'll experience the dance, bounce back to the supplemental section, and then regain their rankings.

      I've had this happen for a number of domains, each time my heart jumps a little bit but I've become more and more accustomed to it.
      Google dance indeed, well at least for my Build My Rank test domain.

      Week 2-5 Update in a paragraph:

      I completely fell out of the top 300 for all my rankings. However, I continued to build back links over the last two weeks. Happily enough my Build My Rank test domain is back on page 19. However, my SEO Linkvine and Linkvana pages are nowhere to be found.

      The most frustrating part so far is the fact that Linkvana (the most expensive network) has been the biggest bust. However, one month may not be fair for any network. So I will continue to watch these rankings closely throughout the next few weeks.

      Adding a New Network to the Test
      Because of the poor rankings from Linkvana and SEO Linkvine I will be adding a new domain/network to the test. The domain will follow the same on page optimization as the others in the test and I will publish the same amount of articles every week. However, with the rankings moving forward you need to keep in mind this network is a few weeks behind. Moving forward though we will be able to compare the actual link quality and ranking gains.

      So for this second domain I will be testing Article Ranks Pro. If you want more data about the network or actual article be sure to visit my blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author ameenmk
    No More updates?
    I was really looking forward to getting the answer
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Elliott
    Just sore a few people mention how bad SEO link vine is and I cant agree more by far the worst spin network Ive tried.

    Im currently subscribed to AMA, BMR, FTS, AR, FTS and hands down the best out there is AMA, however I have only been using BMR for 2-3 months so cant judge on the results as yet. The sites I do have included in BMR (total 5) are 3-6 months old, and are still dancing all over Google, one has been getting top 10 rankings for 2 days then 0 ranks for 3-4 days after and this has been going on for over 6 weeks....
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    • Profile picture of the author exodusms
      Originally Posted by Aaron Elliott View Post

      Just sore a few people mention how bad SEO link vine is and I cant agree more by far the worst spin network Ive tried.

      Im currently subscribed to AMA, BMR, FTS, AR, FTS and hands down the best out there is AMA, however I have only been using BMR for 2-3 months so cant judge on the results as yet. The sites I do have included in BMR (total 5) are 3-6 months old, and are still dancing all over Google, one has been getting top 10 rankings for 2 days then 0 ranks for 3-4 days after and this has been going on for over 6 weeks....
      It was interested that at the start of my test SEO Linkvine actually was producing results. However, within a few weeks those rankings actually disappeared. The most frustrating part of the test is the fact the Linkvana has produced no results at all. So far they have been the absolute worst network even below SEO linkvine (which is saying a lot)
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      • Profile picture of the author nickmartin
        Great post and loving it so far!

        I am new with BMR and have a question for you SEO veterans out there.

        I was taught that even tho a domain has a PR of 5 if the page your link on is a PR n/a or 0 then that's the PR juice you are getting.

        All my posts in BMR show the correct PR for the domain they are live on, but naturally the post itself is n/a or 0.

        Does it give more juice when the post is listed on the fron page of the domain with the link visible? Guess they will stay on the first page a few days, then get bumped down as new post kick in.

        Thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author Trivum
          Originally Posted by nickmartin View Post


          Does it give more juice when the post is listed on the fron page of the domain with the link visible? Guess they will stay on the first page a few days, then get bumped down as new post kick in.
          Yes, you should get the link juice from the front page for a while as long as the link shows up on the front page.

          Something else you could do is find your posts (the full post, not the front page of the blog) and then backlink them. That way you get juice from the blog that it's on and also the backlinks you point to it.
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          • Profile picture of the author exodusms
            Originally Posted by Trivum View Post

            Yes, you should get the link juice from the front page for a while as long as the link shows up on the front page.

            Something else you could do is find your posts (the full post, not the front page of the blog) and then backlink them. That way you get juice from the blog that it's on and also the backlinks you point to it.
            Trivum is exactly right about getting the link juice as long as it is on the front page. Which is why in my analysis/test (on my webpage) you can actually see how long a link lives on the front page of a domain.

            The amount of time a link spends on the front page is a great test of a content network. With Linkvana I was seeing my link only stick for a day or two. Where as BMR I would see the link staying for a few days to a week.
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        • Profile picture of the author mitoshthewarrior
          Originally Posted by nickmartin View Post

          Great post and loving it so far!

          I am new with BMR and have a question for you SEO veterans out there.

          I was taught that even tho a domain has a PR of 5 if the page your link on is a PR n/a or 0 then that's the PR juice you are getting.

          All my posts in BMR show the correct PR for the domain they are live on, but naturally the post itself is n/a or 0.

          Does it give more juice when the post is listed on the fron page of the domain with the link visible? Guess they will stay on the first page a few days, then get bumped down as new post kick in.

          Thanks!
          There is a trickle effect, if you get a link on a PR10 site, but it is on a PR0 page, you will get link juice from it, just not as much as if it was on the front page. If this wasn't the case, profile links wouldn't work as that is the whole point of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author nickmartin
    Thanks a lot for clearing that up.
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    • Profile picture of the author AudioRoxor
      This post answers my question for the most part but I just want to confirm.

      I'm about to launch a series of sites and I'm gathering that maybe I should wait 3-4 months before using BMR (or any service like this)?

      Or should I just use BMR from the beginning, very slow and steady, and let any google dance work itself out?
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  • Profile picture of the author RalphealJackson2
    Awesome value, you should consider testing blogging underground and linkamotion as well, as I have had great success with a combination of the 2 along with synnd and BMR.

    Also, does anyone know about Rapid Free Traffic? I heard that that system was apart of AMA.
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    • Profile picture of the author EmilyRoseSanders
      I'm surprised you arn't seeing better success.

      There's two reasons:

      1) you haven't varied your anchor text enough.

      2) you haven't spun your articles enough - you really need to make an effort here, otherwise they won't stay indexed, and you won't get the benefit
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  • Profile picture of the author JDAX23
    I am thinking about getting BMR as it see to be the best out there
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  • Profile picture of the author glennforum
    Google panda definitely require quality content.
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  • Profile picture of the author CED59
    awesome thread.. thanks to all
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  • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
    I really expected Linkvana to do better. Hmmmm....
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  • Profile picture of the author exodusms
    Rankings Update – Week 5-7 Update

    I am so sorry for not producing an update until this point. I have been very busy at work and on vacation. However, this holding period has been a good time to see how the rankings would perform while I was gone. So please keep in mind I have NOT added any new articles in the last few weeks. The ranking increases are coming from past articles.

    Amazingly enough my rankings have blown me away!

    If you want to see some actual backlink information you will have to visit my blog (in the sig). There you will be able to see the Majestic SEO backlink totals and overall quality. I will also include my SEOmoz page authority and domain authority. So from a pure link perspective and overall link juice flow these will be great indicators.

    Build My Rank
    Current Rank: Page 5

    My Build My Rank page has actually been bouncing around page 20-23 over the last few weeks. However, a few days ago it jumped up to this higher position. Once again Build My Rank is outperforming the other sites in my test.

    SEO Linkvine
    Current Rank: Page 10

    Surprisingly enough I finally have a ranking with this network. I have been very down on SEO Linkvine so it is really good to see some ranking movement. My only hope at this point is it doesn’t dance right out of Google again.

    Linkvana
    Current Rank: Page 9

    Finally Linkvana has produced some rankings. Being the most expensive network I had really high hopes so it is nice to see some actual movement.

    Conclusions
    All the links on these networks are finally starting to take hold. I am hoping as I turn back up the article writing they will just continue to climb. However, please keep in mind these might be Google dance rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author wmike
    Exodusms,

    Thanks for the post and updates, I followed your steps, and joined BMR. For those who are new to BMR.

    They offer trial, and one can submit 10 posts. I wrote one but rejected, so I outsourced posts to BMR post wrting service, which cost $2.5USD.

    I searched on Google to find lower priced BMR articles. One in South Africa showed up on top, buildmyrankposts

    Just a few tips based on my experienced following Exodusms' method
    1. If you hire someone to write BMR articles, don't cancel your BMR trial account yet, because writers will take time to write posts, while BMR charges per month. So don't waste your account life if you only intend to outsource your post writing.

    2. This buildmyrankposts company does not have phone numbers, not very responsive via email. I paid and sent PayPal details. Two days later, they said we were on vacation. And saying articles will be delivered in 4 working days, however I went back to their website, it says 4 days.

    Therefore if you intend to outsource your posts, use a safe way like escrow service maybe, not paying upfront. Also maybe buy a small amount first.

    Hope this is helpful for those who want to try as well.
    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Jerry Tellier
    Matt, in your blog you mentioned that you were adding Article Ranks Pro to your test. Any results with it yet?
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    • Profile picture of the author exodusms
      Originally Posted by wmike View Post

      Exodusms,

      Thanks for the post and updates, I followed your steps, and joined BMR. For those who are new to BMR.

      They offer trial, and one can submit 10 posts. I wrote one but rejected, so I outsourced posts to BMR post wrting service, which cost $2.5USD.

      I searched on Google to find lower priced BMR articles. One in South Africa showed up on top, buildmyrankposts

      Just a few tips based on my experienced following Exodusms' method
      1. If you hire someone to write BMR articles, don't cancel your BMR trial account yet, because writers will take time to write posts, while BMR charges per month. So don't waste your account life if you only intend to outsource your post writing.
      It is extremely important you find an article writing company you trust. I have found that you can find some great writers here on Warrior and Digital Point. However, I now use odesk.com for my article hiring. You can hire great articles writers for a good deal. Depending on how you set up your account and the job on odesk.com you can also pay once the project is complete.

      Originally Posted by Jerry Tellier View Post

      Matt, in your blog you mentioned that you were adding Article Ranks Pro to your test. Any results with it yet?
      Jerry,

      I will be starting that extra test next week when I re-start my article submissions. I will update the test here and on my blog next week with the articles that I publish.
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  • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
    So what's the bottom line here? What do ya think?
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Elliott
    I think submitting articles to high page blogs works better than any other method. I think BMR from these 3 wins. I think SEO Linkvine belongs in the bin.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonyeoo
    just to give my two cents of thought.
    i have been using Purely linkvana for the last 1.5 months and the results i have been getting is awesome. i'm targetting a keyword that has medium traffic of about 100k and after 1.5 months of solely linkvana posts as well as articles. i am currently on page 2 and 3 and some pank 1 rankings for the related keywords.

    For the blog, i have about 25 odd posts and have onsite optimization done on it.
    In my opinion linkvana is a little costly but the results really speak for themselves. have not tried the other linking services so i'm not that sure why your results vary from mine that much
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacko
      Guess SeoLinkVine will get last position.

      Linkvana has a good set of high PR blogs but
      BMR is more effective 'cause they bookmark your backlink
      and this can make a huuuuuge difference.
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      • Profile picture of the author exodusms
        Originally Posted by SoundsGood View Post

        So what's the bottom line here? What do ya think?
        Bottom line is so far BMR is crushing everyone else. However, the other two networks are starting to show to progress.

        I think the next case study will be to mix all these networks and watch the progress.

        Originally Posted by Aaron Elliott View Post

        I think submitting articles to high page blogs works better than any other method. I think BMR from these 3 wins. I think SEO Linkvine belongs in the bin.
        I would agree with you but the SEO Linkvine is finally starting to rank. On top of that SEO linkvine produced the highest quality PA/DA from SEOmoz's tool. It all had the most links reported for majestic SEO.

        Although the rankings show that despite all that SEO linkvine is not the best network in this test.
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  • Profile picture of the author charlotteroofers
    I am in the competitive roofing business and need to be number one on google, bing and yahoo. I use boostability now and it seems to be doing ok but there is alot of crap built into the software too. somebody who know better pm with some assistance and real life experience and recommendations on what to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kysersoze
    Any results on Article Ranks? OP never came back with those findings and I am interested in his test on AR.
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      • Profile picture of the author netprospector
        It looks like this thread has kind of died out. I was interested in the results. As for my own BMR trial, I did 5 domains for a month after the trial and I think I will be cancelling. I had some OK results in that I did see target keywords get to the second or third page. However this was not my only linking activity so it is not scientific.

        I think my biggest problem with BMR is that it is one link for a 150 word article and my links are 37.5% PR 1, 25% PR 2 (so 62.5% PR 1 or 2). 13% PR 3 and only 8.5% PR4. So while the service is only fifty bucks a month the cost or time of the content is prohibitive (at least for me) and I did not fully utilize it because of that. In theory you could have nearly 1500 links a month generated over 5 domains but at 2.50 an article (their outsource writing price) that would be $3750 dollars in writing (even at .10 a word it would be expensive) or more hours than i have to spend and they say they don't allow spinning or anything like that (I did not test that restriction). Frankly it seems a lot of time or expense for links that are mostly PR 1 and 2. I think my writing budget whether in time or dollars can probably be spent better elsewhere.

        One question I asked earlier and never saw an answer for was how the other services like linkvana compared from a content creation cost?

        Are there any other services that are effective and better leverage my content creation budget? I wonder if something like Unique Article Wizard or a similar service might provide more links for the same amount of content creation.
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        • Profile picture of the author bmcgoff
          Originally Posted by netprospector View Post

          It looks like this thread has kind of died out. I was interested in the results. As for my own BMR trial, I did 5 domains for a month after the trial and I think I will be cancelling. I had some OK results in that I did see target keywords get to the second or third page. However this was not my only linking activity so it is not scientific.

          I think my biggest problem with BMR is that it is one link for a 150 word article and my links are 37.5% PR 1, 25% PR 2 (so 62.5% PR 1 or 2). 13% PR 3 and only 8.5% PR4. So while the service is only fifty bucks a month the cost or time of the content is prohibitive (at least for me) and I did not fully utilize it because of that. In theory you could have nearly 1500 links a month generated over 5 domains but at 2.50 an article (their outsource writing price) that would be $3750 dollars in writing (even at .10 a word it would be expensive) or more hours than i have to spend and they say they don't allow spinning or anything like that (I did not test that restriction). Frankly it seems a lot of time or expense for links that are mostly PR 1 and 2. I think my writing budget whether in time or dollars can probably be spent better elsewhere.

          One question I asked earlier and never saw an answer for was how the other services like linkvana compared from a content creation cost?

          Are there any other services that are effective and better leverage my content creation budget? I wonder if something like Unique Article Wizard or a similar service might provide more links for the same amount of content creation.
          I hear you on this. BMR is going great for me so far, and 150 words is pretty easy to write. But if you want to take full advantage and submit 50 posts a day, you need to outsource. The cheapest I've seen on here is .90 cents per post. This comes out to $1350/month if you outsourced all of your posts every day.

          Not worth it to those of us who are starting out, especially if you are paying for other things every month (OnlyWire, SEO services, hosting, VAs, etc.).
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  • Profile picture of the author jonoman1
    Amazing how most of these SEO case studies are started with good intentions but then the OP loses rankings or interest or for whatever reason stops updating us once. I would love to hear how the OP is doing now with the ranking results.
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by jonoman1 View Post

      Amazing how most of these SEO case studies are started with good intentions but then the OP loses rankings or interest or for whatever reason stops updating us once. I would love to hear how the OP is doing now with the ranking results.
      He probably moved on to greener pastures.
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  • Profile picture of the author chini
    Nice case study, i have found article ranks pro to work well and traffic kaboom (a really private network)

    If anyone here is looking to get article ranks pro, pm me. I can get you good discount
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