Page Rank Update but ranking not improve...

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Happy news for all webmasters that on the 27 June 2011 Google page rank updated, and I got good page rank on my most of the websites. I observe that Google has been done very useful update this time. But the ranking not improves...I checked all website rankings and not get any improvements on it....Still there update is going on?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rollmodl
    PR has nothing to do with SERP.
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    • Profile picture of the author lingoway
      Originally Posted by Rollmodl View Post

      PR has nothing to do with SERP.
      yes, Even a webpage having 1 PR can rank on the top place .
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  • Profile picture of the author terryd
    As the poster above said PR doesn't mean more traffic or better serps....it's just a little green bar that webmasters jump all over the place for.....
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  • Profile picture of the author AMiRU
    My SERP nor traffic haven't improve at all since the PR update but I'm still happy for getting a better PR on this update.
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    This just tends to prove that PR is not so important. People are always trying to improve PR for some reason. They should concentrate on SERP listing improvements and let PR worry about itself. Your income will not improve with higher PR, unless you go higher in the listings. So a site with PR0 and 100 visitors a day will earn no more money than that same site with 100 visitors a day and PR5.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by timpears View Post

      This just tends to prove that PR is not so important.
      No Tim it doesn't prove that at all. What it proves is that the pagerank update to the toolbar lags WAY behind the internal pagerank calculations inside Google. People think that something new has happened to their site when they see a PR update. The only new thing is that it is now announced to the Toolbar user what Google has been seeing . In reality the way that Google has been seeing the site has not changed. Your page was a PR whatever it shows now for quite some time.

      Pr is important for one very good reason. It shows the combination of quality and quantity of links you are getting. Without anchor text of course you will not rank for a term but when you combine the anchor text you are getting with PR it can and often does predict a serp result relative to another site.

      So its neither most important nor totally unimportant people just need to know how both anchor text and PR should work together.
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      • Profile picture of the author bdiddy
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        No Tim it doesn't prove that at all. What it proves is that the pagerank update to the toolbar lags WAY behind the internal pagerank calculations inside Google. People think that something new has happened to their site when they see a PR update. The only new thing is that it is now announced to the Toolbar user what Google has been seeing . In reality the way that Google has been seeing the site has not changed. Your page was a PR whatever it shows now for quite some time.

        Pr is important for one very good reason. It shows the combination of quality and quantity of links you are getting. Without anchor text of course you will not rank for a term but when you combine the anchor text you are getting with PR it can and often does predict a serp result relative to another site.

        So its neither most important nor totally unimportant people just need to know how both anchor text and PR should work together.
        This is a simple yet great explanation Mike!
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    • Profile picture of the author attorneydavid
      Your actual PR didn't change. Google has said it's continously updated. Only the publicly visible number is only updated every 6 months or so.
      We can't say if PR affects serps from the public updates.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        PR does have something to do with SERPs. It's a tool that google
        founders came up with. Specifically for....*gasp*...search results!

        I don't know why this myth continues to abound. Just because not
        all searches give websites that have no PR, low PR, high PR, or whatever,
        in no way, shape, or form, means that PR has nothing to do with
        SERPs.

        Because search results are based a lot on the person, place, time,
        and item searched for, PR may be trumped by relevance and/or
        authority.

        But PR does play an active part in virtually all searches.
        PR and SERPs are like a funnel going into a filter.

        Google is a rather large, competitive, valuable company. Silly
        to think they would spend time and money on something not
        used. It's trademarked and patented.

        When Google was founded, one key innovation was PageRank, a technology that determined the "importance" of a webpage by looking at what other pages link to it, as well as other data. Today we use more than 200 signals, including PageRank, to order websites, and we update these algorithms on a weekly basis.
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        • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
          This just tends to prove that PR is not so important. People are always trying to improve PR for some reason.
          Well ... folks reselling home page backlinks sure think PR is important.
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  • Profile picture of the author shaneparksons
    Originally Posted by supindersingh View Post

    Happy news for all webmasters that on the 27 June 2011 Google page rank updated, and I got good page rank on my most of the websites. I observe that Google has been done very useful update this time. But the ranking not improves…I checked all website rankings and not get any improvements on it….Still there update is going on?
    I guess it is a clear message coming from Google to stop caring about the PR as it is not directly related to SERP rankings. Like the old saying goes, a PR 0 can outrank a PR 4 on a particular keyword competition. When looking at backlinks, it boils down to which are useful, not which are with good PR.
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    • Profile picture of the author zoesmith01
      Originally Posted by shaneparksons View Post

      I guess it is a clear message coming from Google to start caring about the PR as it is not directly related to SERP rankings. Like the old saying goes, a PR 0 can outrank a PR 4 on a particular keyword competition. When looking at backlinks, it boils down to which are useful, not which are with good PR.
      I definitely agree with this. Keyword ranking is more important. It is what the people are putting in the search box.
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      • Profile picture of the author NZB
        Unfortunately, for me update was not positive. My SERP nor traffic haven't change at all since the PR update. This just tends to prove that PR is not so important.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Look guys its really simple.

    If a site has a PR 5 page that is targeting "make money online" and it is outranked in a serp for " start a business today" it does NOT prove that PR is not important. In order for you to make that case you would have to show two pages with the same level of on page SEO targeting the same terms in their anchor text.

    Put those pages through a test and 90% plus of the time the site that has the higher PR WHEN THE PR ALSO PASSES ANCHOR TEXT will smoke the site that has Lower PR links coming in with the same anchor text.

    When the PR is the measurement of the links coming in for a particular anchor text then PR will win most of the time (always some odd hidden factor with Google in rare circumstances).
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnletton
    I think that Page Rank does not affect as much as webmaster normally considers. It all depends on backlinks those you get and the crawling rate if your website is being crawled with low time then your website's ranking is gonna up or improve.
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  • Profile picture of the author tadsam12
    Pr is nothing to do in SERP
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  • Profile picture of the author david87
    SERP never depends upon Page rank.Both are different terms.I don't think why people thinks about PR.PR has no role in improve SERP as well as business Growth.It only matters for those who sell links on their domains.So we should keep focus on quality backlinks with regular content updates to get high SERP.
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  • Profile picture of the author simonbuzz
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    pr and serps are two different thing...
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    • Profile picture of the author madzzoo
      Hey guys I have something that will definitely help you out with building PR, if you want to build your PR guaranteed write some good solid content on your blog over the next month or so and read this to see how i got a PR 4 on a brand new domain in less than 6 weeks...i got proof too... the links hting may have some effect but i had some garbage links that actually caused my domain to drop to end of the bus yet google still loved it enough to give it PR4...maybe it was cuz i did a video of matt cutts ....who knows LOL read that though it wil bless you
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  • Profile picture of the author hairdbeezt8
    I think PR matters when you are placing a backlink from a site to your site. It doesn't seem to effect the serps much but I guess it matters what anchor text is being targeted.
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  • Profile picture of the author summerfranken
    Try out Google +1 for improve the volume of traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daret
      Originally Posted by summerfranken View Post

      Try out Google +1 for improve the volume of traffic.
      Yeah, that can help u in better ranking.

      By the way, I would still say - Content is the king, If you have got good content, people will backlink to your website and gradually over a period of time, you will get good serps as well as better PR
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  • Profile picture of the author alina albert
    same problem is with me.My PR increase but serp is going down and down so what should i do know?
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  • Profile picture of the author honyflights
    Page rank and search engine ranking both are diff. Both dont effect to eadch others
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  • Profile picture of the author C Rebecca
    PR assignment is the actually the count of authority votes (in shape of backlinks from reputed websites )

    keep three things in mind when you think about improving your rankings,
    1. Quality of baclinks
    2. Quality of content
    3. Social media reputation
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  • Profile picture of the author rosesmark
    Now All things depend upon website content.If you have unique content then your website Page Rank increased otherwise stable
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