Google Panda Destroyed My Business

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hi ,,

I Have site have about 4000 UV Daily
Also Site Have About 1000 UV Daily

And I Got About 15 $ Daily From Adsense ..

After Panda For 1 st Site i got now 1500 uv daily and for 2st site
i got 200 uv daily ,,

and now i hardly got 3-4 $ daily ,,, :confused:

my first site got sandboxed my home page disappeared and also
i lost my keyword ranking ,,

i got disappointed its now about 2 weeks and no news ,,,

i dont do any think spam except some Few blog commenting

and about 10 backlinks ,,

what shall i do ??

#business #destroyed #google #panda
  • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
    I feel for you mate, similar thing happened to me. I've been depressed ever since.

    Google killed my life for the moment!

    But you gotta try and get back up and battle for another round.

    Just don't make the same mistake again and rely too much on Google.

    Oh and I'd play as dirty as you can. It seems nice guys finish last online too.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnnyPR
    Take your efforts away from adsense. Yes people are still making money with adsense, but all I'm hearing all over the net is that having a website full of adsense ads is going to make Google think less of your site.

    Focus on affiliate programs, and start building more links to your site. Consistency is key here, so keep building until your back on top.
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    • Profile picture of the author BloxVentures
      Is it really too many Adsense ads, or just poor/non-unique content?

      If I build a content-rich site with lots of Adsense do you think that's a bad idea?
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      • Profile picture of the author admnaffii
        Originally Posted by BloxVentures View Post

        Is it really too many Adsense ads, or just poor/non-unique content?

        If I build a content-rich site with lots of Adsense do you think that's a bad idea?
        Did you read all the condition about the google adsense, it allows you to post three ads maximum at one of your web page. if you cross the line you will also banned for adsanse for that domain.
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    • Profile picture of the author C0DeZeR0
      Originally Posted by jpr106 View Post

      Take your efforts away from adsense. Yes people are still making money with adsense, but all I'm hearing all over the net is that having a website full of adsense ads is going to make Google think less of your site.

      Focus on affiliate programs, and start building more links to your site. Consistency is key here, so keep building until your back on top.
      Big Problem Not only adsense mate but also lack of visitors

      if also was adsense it may be little fine as i will use ant alternative than
      adsense but my visitors were 70 % less ..

      Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

      I feel for you mate, similar thing happened to me. I've been depressed ever since.

      Google killed my life for the moment!

      But you gotta try and get back up and battle for another round.

      Just don't make the same mistake again and rely too much on Google.

      Oh and I'd play as dirty as you can. It seems nice guys finish last online too.
      I Dont make any mistake or spam but as u say i wont rely on google i will go around yahoo etc ,,,

      thanks all
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    • Profile picture of the author lloydmo
      "Take your efforts away from adsense. Yes people are still making money with adsense, but all I'm hearing all over the net is that having a website full of adsense ads is going to make Google think less of your site."

      Funny that, just got a recommendation from the adsense team to stick in more adsense blocks.
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    • Profile picture of the author LangeTroels
      Originally Posted by jpr106 View Post

      Take your efforts away from adsense. Yes people are still making money with adsense, but all I'm hearing all over the net is that having a website full of adsense ads is going to make Google think less of your site.

      Focus on affiliate programs, and start building more links to your site. Consistency is key here, so keep building until your back on top.
      Why would Google want to de-rank websites that provide Google with income through AdSense..?
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  • Profile picture of the author RevSEO
    You need to diversify your traffic sources, for reasons like these.

    Are there any methods that you can utilize to drive additional traffic to your site? Facebook? Twitter? Forum participation/blog participation?
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    • Profile picture of the author C0DeZeR0
      Originally Posted by RevSEO View Post

      You need to diversify your traffic sources, for reasons like these.

      Are there any methods that you can utilize to drive additional traffic to your site? Facebook? Twitter? Forum participation/blog participation?

      My traffic in past was almost from google and search engines ,,

      now i think i must go to other traffic sources

      thanks ,,,,,,,
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  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    I'm in the same boat. I frequent WF looking for advice, so far nobody has any success stories.

    I went from roughly 4,000 to 1,000 daily. I am on the verge of starting over on a new domain. The only one who hates my site is Google.com. My readers love my site, Wiki loves my site, eHow loves my site, blogs and forum posters love my site. I get backlinks from my readers spreading the word of my site...

    yet google hates me...

    I'm yet to find a solution. Maybe Google.com hates Wordpress software? I don't know...
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by gearmonkey View Post

      I'm in the same boat. I frequent WF looking for advice, so far nobody has any success stories.
      How about the sites that took your place? They must frequent other forums

      Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author FrFai
      Originally Posted by gearmonkey View Post

      I'm yet to find a solution. Maybe Google.com hates Wordpress software? I don't know...
      I think Google loves WordPress.

      One of my site went from #1 to #500 in SERPS on 6th June.

      I started this site in January with 500words Hompage Unique content(cheaply written for $4.5) and with one post of 500 words unique as well. Ofcourse it has privacy, about and blah blah pages. It's 5 pages website.

      It was making sales so I changed Hompage content in May, and the old content I kept it as a post.

      On 18th/19th June it came back on its position. I didn't do anything. And its now PR3 after the Google PR update.

      I have another WP blog. Again 5 pages. It has very good content on it and some quality backlinks. I started this in end of April and its currently ranking #1 for my KW beating AMAZON. Its PR4 after the Google PR update.
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      • Originally Posted by FrFai View Post

        I think Google loves WordPress.

        One of my site went from #1 to #500 in SERPS on 6th June.

        I started this site in January with 500words Hompage Unique content(cheaply written for $4.5) and with one post of 500 words unique as well. Ofcourse it has privacy, about and blah blah pages. It's 5 pages website.

        It was making sales so I changed Hompage content in May, and the old content I kept it as a post.

        On 18th/19th June it came back on its position. I didn't do anything. And its now PR3 after the Google PR update.

        I have another WP blog. Again 5 pages. It has very good content on it and some quality backlinks. I started this in end of April and its currently ranking #1 for my KW beating AMAZON. Its PR4 after the Google PR update.
        Google does seem to love Wordpress, but even Wordpress won't help much if the content stinks.

        In your case, it was a fantastic comeback jump in the SERPS! Unfortunately, not everyone shares your success.

        It must be that you have all of the right elements in place to make the Google Gods happy proving that it CAN be done in the post Panda world.

        Great Job!

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        WP MaGee says...

        This Monster is about ready eat some Panda!

        What about you?
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  • Profile picture of the author chubbsky
    How's the content of your site? Google Panda is all about high-quality content. If you say that you haven't been spamming then maybe you have to take a second look at your content. Is it unique? How long are your articles? Are you putting fresh content on a regular basis? Is adsense occupying more space on your blog than your article? So on and so forth...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mushin
    I think a lot of SEO-based marketers are suffering from Panda...just reminds us that we shouldn't rely on 1 traffic source too much because big G is fickle as hell and building a business on organic seo ranking is always a risk...
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  • Profile picture of the author StoneWilson
    Home page de-indexed is a very serious problem for webmasters, you'd better check your website first, find out possible reasons then fix problems. Try to add more quality contents and backlinks to your website, it will be helpful, btw, build backlinks from different resources is more helpful.
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    • Profile picture of the author Johnletton
      Google has penalized more to those websites who are content base or directories. so look at those websites that took your place on search and keep working dont loose temper
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  • Profile picture of the author warriorseo
    You can expect more and more changes like panda in future.They don't want to lose their visitors to bing or yahoo.so gear up for more...
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew S
    Codezero, I know how you feel. I went from around $250/day to $125-$150 a day... Now with the amazon affiliate termination, even lower until I can get my account reinstated.

    The only thing you got to do is keep hustling and have patience. It's easy to get discouraged but try not to. Just keep looking forward to brighter days and adapt your strategies if you have to (after Panda, I have).
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  • Profile picture of the author C0DeZeR0
    thanks all

    i will give more importance to google 1+ and also social bookmarking & remove adsense ads for 2 days to see what will happen - remove my site from anylstic and webmaster tools - build some backlinks to my home page and internal pages ...

    may be it will help with big G
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Albas
    Because your content is not unique or fresh that's why your website ranking goes down
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    • Profile picture of the author James Sides
      Just want to point something out for those knocking adsense.

      Adsense accounts for a VERY large % of Google's overall yearly revenue so if you think they are knocking sites for having adsense you are SORELY mistaken.

      When sites have troubles is when they try to sneak by on less than stellar content and spammy backlinks or when they start "tricking" visitors into clicking ads. The problem is not with adsense, its with the user.

      Now, in the case of the OP I have no idea as I have no seen the sites in question but I know I have sites that have not dropped a lick in almost 18 months with NO work so it isn't adsense or Google that creates the problem.

      With that being said, I think that relying on Google for the main source of income is a dangerous move. You've heard it before but I will say it again.

      BUILD A LIST. Even if you are not in the IM market you should be building a list and monetizing that list. That list is your asset.

      Without it you don't own a business. You are just an "employee' helping Google make ad revenue.

      Cheers!

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      • Profile picture of the author WareTime
        Originally Posted by Fenderkid View Post

        I have sites that have not dropped a lick in almost 18 months with NO work so it isn't adsense or Google that creates the problem.

        I'm in same boat. One of my sites doubled in traffic within a month of Panda hitting. If you dropped in traffic, it's on you 99% of the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Albas
    Any suggestion form Warrior's how we come back again on same position.
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  • Profile picture of the author C0DeZeR0
    thanks all and waiting any one to tell us what shall we do to improve our sites again <<
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    • Profile picture of the author warriorseo
      Originally Posted by C0DeZeR0 View Post

      thanks all and waiting any one to tell us what shall we do to improve our sites again <<
      There is a theory called KISS(Keep It Simple Silly) in every industry including SEO. And Google loves it.In general people over-complicate things and it does more harm than good.All the wise people of the industry say "Go with the tide,not against it".Most of the sites that went down after Panda release is because they aren't in compliance with google's set of rules.So they drowned them.To improve your site's rankings just do what google says.
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  • Profile picture of the author englandrm
    What kind of market are you in? You don't need to say the specific niche, but with those kind of numbers, there are alternative monetization methods that could work.

    Check out affiliate programs and CPA's. In my opinion you can get much more money from those than from regular adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author techwarrior
    If I use chitika along with adsense, will it hurt?
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  • Profile picture of the author clature
    I've always felt that Google was too strict. Can't do this, can't do that, can't do everything. And when they feel like it they ban your ass.

    I went through the same thing as you mate. Hang in there.
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  • Profile picture of the author coronaborcalis
    Have you tried to sent letter to google and ask them to reconsider your site?
    Check this one mate

    https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/reconsideration
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    • Profile picture of the author admnaffii
      Originally Posted by coronaborcalis View Post

      Have you tried to sent letter to google and ask them to reconsider your site?
      Check this one mate
      but one thing is clear that when goolge banned someone means a very very few chance to get back on track. You have to start agian from A......B......C........
      I never saw positive response from google to any one. so appeal once and forgot about that and start from first again.
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      • Profile picture of the author coronaborcalis
        Originally Posted by admnaffii View Post

        but one thing is clear that when goolge banned someone means a very very few chance to get back on track. You have to start agian from A......B......C........
        I never saw positive response from google to any one. so appeal once and forgot about that and start from first again.
        Not at all mate, I am one of the lucky guy who gets the bliss from google. Here is the proof. my site gets back to SERP after the doom days on 6 June. Before sending reconsidering letter make sure that your site follows google guidelines.

        https://www.google.com/support/webma...er=35769&hl=en




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  • Profile picture of the author seobuzz
    I heard next Panda update is coming in future. I agree that the Panda update from Google destroyed many websites without any valid reason. I hope in next update it will get corrected.
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  • Profile picture of the author HigherPrThanGod
    Originally Posted by C0DeZeR0 View Post

    hi ,,

    I Have site have about 4000 UV Daily
    Also Site Have About 1000 UV Daily

    And I Got About 15 $ Daily From Adsense ..

    After Panda For 1 st Site i got now 1500 uv daily and for 2st site
    i got 200 uv daily ,,

    and now i hardly got 3-4 $ daily ,,, :confused:

    my first site got sandboxed my home page disappeared and also
    i lost my keyword ranking ,,

    i got disappointed its now about 2 weeks and no news ,,,

    i dont do any think spam except some Few blog commenting

    and about 10 backlinks ,,

    what shall i do ??

    The new update supposedly means you need to focus more on "time on site". That is, there are some design elements, links and site flow issues that Google is going to be looking for. I say supposedly because it sounds like misleading bull from the Google team to get us doing stupid stuff.

    Some sites, I don't want people to linger... But at the same time I have figured out how to raise a sites stickiness. More intrasite links which offer MORE of what they want.. even if you have to get creative in order to do so.
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  • Profile picture of the author VladWorks
    I hate to say that if your business was destroyed by panda then your methods were flawed to begin with.

    Our clients rankings increased with Panda not dropped.

    Panda rewards good and proper SEO.

    I understand that SEO is getting harder and more complex. If you struggle in this area you really need to push forward on other traffic methods while you figure out the new SEO game.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
      Originally Posted by VladWorks View Post


      Panda rewards good and proper SEO.
      and this is why Google is now broken.

      Shouldn't they be rewarding the best websites, not the websites who do the best job of manipulating their sites to beat their algorithm?

      Google only works if NOBODY knows how they rank their sites which is clearly not the case.
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      • Profile picture of the author miker501
        Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

        and this is why Google is now broken.

        Shouldn't they be rewarding the best websites, not the websites who do the best job of manipulating their sites to beat their algorithm?

        Google only works if NOBODY knows how they rank their sites which is clearly not the case.
        Hey Ernie!

        How's things going, any sign of an upturn yet? Things are still very poor for me, even with ZERO dupe content, no spam etc etc. Collateral damage that might never get fixed :-(

        I'm at a loss to know where to start trying to fix things, or to wait for the next Panda update to see if they fix things.

        I think I will end up making sites with no content and just items for sale, seems to be the way to hit page one these days, all commerce NIL info

        Good luck, hope your sites recover soon
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        • Profile picture of the author Ernie Lo
          Originally Posted by miker501 View Post


          I think I will end up making sites with no content and just items for sale, seems to be the way to hit page one these days, all commerce NIL info

          Good luck, hope your sites recover soon
          Thanks mate. No my sites have been getting worse and worse unfortunately. We can't do much about it, just have to move on and hope things turn around eventually.

          I too are doing what you plan on doing. No more info sites for me I think. Sell sell sell, gotta give Google what they seem to want, not what they say they want.
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          • Profile picture of the author miker501
            Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

            Thanks mate. No my sites have been getting worse and worse unfortunately. We can't do much about it, just have to move on and hope things turn around eventually.

            I too are doing what you plan on doing. No more info sites for me I think. Sell sell sell, gotta give Google what they seem to want, not what they say they want.
            Yep, it is certainly a tricky one. I really don't want to spend days or weeks rewriting content and designing better navigation etc, if it is going to be fruitless.

            I have been slapped over nearly every site, only one or two of the adsense sites seem relatively unaffected, and my tow amazon only Affiliate sites seemed unaffected. That said, they were not really bringing in any traffic to speak of due to me forgetting about them, but they certainly do not seem to have seen that sudden plummet of 16th June that the rest did.

            I have no idea what has happened, but can only guess that a combination of tight SEO on page and a large adsense block above the fold might have made them seem too MFA and invoked the penalty.

            I've read about people recovering but am not sure how true this is and the stories of recovery seem few and far between.

            I'm hoping that after the 4th July weekend I might see some pickup. But the last couple of days have been dire!
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      • Profile picture of the author VladWorks
        Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo View Post

        and this is why Google is now broken.

        Shouldn't they be rewarding the best websites, not the websites who do the best job of manipulating their sites to beat their algorithm?

        Google only works if NOBODY knows how they rank their sites which is clearly not the case.
        I couldn't disagree more.

        Good SEO involves building a good site. Not just what looks pretty. Onsite SEO is a big part of your ranking that many webmasters simply ignore. I see soo many websites that don't even bother with H1 tags.

        Google rewards good businesses with good websites and good marketing.

        If you dont have time or money to invest in proper marketing you dont have what it takes to be a good business so why should Google reward you?

        Google is getting rid of fly by night websites that are out for quick cash and no value to their users. I fully support them in this.

        Most of my clients rankings increased with the Panda update not decreased as did the clients of many proper seo companies that place value on their clients sites not just doing the same thing over and over.

        Google is not broken its better!
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        • Profile picture of the author gwrsteam
          I have had it with dancing to the google tune. It is now way out of tune, even with very successful online marketers. I was a newbie 8 months ago. I worked hard on my site. I knew my subject as I was a sufferer myself. I just wanted to pass on my knowledge to other sufferers. Yes I posted a few Amazon ads, but I didn't expect to make big money from them. My site began to build traffic. 100 per day, 130 per day, 250 per day. Then suddenly...... nothing. Apparently Google had decided that my site wasn't providing a quality visit, what ever that is! I just don't know what they want. My website is focused on a niche that I know all about because I have suffered with the condition all of my life. My website has over 15 totally unique articles written by me taken from my personal experience of this condition. I have since added two product reviews to help my readers. Yes I have a couple of ads on there to try and make a few dollars, but the aim of the site was to assist fellow sufferers and to try and help them if I could. Google have applied some sort of blanket policy which sweeps aside good and bad sites. My potential readers are now left with websites that will feed them rubbish facts to try and make a dollar. Really well done Google. You have become too big for your own good now.
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    • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
      Originally Posted by VladWorks View Post

      I hate to say that if your business was destroyed by panda then your methods were flawed to begin with.

      Our clients rankings increased with Panda not dropped.

      Panda rewards good and proper SEO.

      I understand that SEO is getting harder and more complex. If you struggle in this area you really need to push forward on other traffic methods while you figure out the new SEO game.
      Hate to say it, but your logic is so flawed that I don't even know where to begin.

      How are autoblogs stealing content without giving backlinks to the original source "proper"? Many who were hit by Google did things the right way, yet are getting outranked by scrapers...

      Another misconception you have is ultimately, "proper SEO", is nothing more than high-quality and appealing content to be shared. Google doesn't want links spammed all over the interweb; and their algorithm manipulated. They want your content to be shared by others naturally.

      People who spew off none-sense and never been through the Panda update really pisses me off. Good websites are hit... sites that should be hit are not hit. What does that say about your clients websites? They might fit in the "should be hit" category.
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      • Profile picture of the author VladWorks
        Originally Posted by gearmonkey View Post

        Hate to say it, but your logic is so flawed that I don't even know where to begin.

        How are autoblogs stealing content without giving backlinks to the original source "proper"? Many who were hit by Google did things the right way, yet are getting outranked by scrapers...

        Another misconception you have is ultimately, "proper SEO", is nothing more than high-quality and appealing content to be shared. Google doesn't want links spammed all over the interweb; and their algorithm manipulated. They want your content to be shared by others naturally.

        People who spew off none-sense and never been through the Panda update really pisses me off. Good websites are hit... sites that should be hit are not hit. What does that say about your clients websites? They might fit in the "should be hit" category.

        Would love to be enlightened on my flaws. Maybe I am wrong.

        As for my "misconception" of "proper seo" How do you know our methods? I dont place high value on article links or mass distribution of articles. Sure its part of our internal system but not the be all and end all of the system.

        SEO is about link diversity and creating a quality website that follows what Google is looking for.

        Too many people get stuck in old methods and fail to adapt to what is going on in the way people search.

        Im not hear to ruffle feathers but when I see people posting that Google is destroying your business it makes me wonder if their business had a solid plan to begin with. We work hard to keep our clients sites from dropping in rankings year round.

        Did some of them get hit by Panda...yes....as I said originally most did not and even increased in most cases.

        In cases where we did drop off I was mostly able to find out why and we are working on fixing the issues.

        I think too many people get stuck doing the same things over and over when it comes to SEO and it costs them in the end. We have been diversifying more and more to keep our clients stable. With just a little research you can see what Google is doing now and where it is heading in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author masterjani
    Its been a hard time for many webmasters.Don't feel for it.You are not the one.

    Build more backlinks and removes the duplicate content and add some more unique content.building backlinks is the only way to beat google.
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  • Profile picture of the author tchung
    ,same happened to me =/, have any of you had your UV's go up drastically?
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  • Profile picture of the author KarimPPC
    $15 a day, you never had a business
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    • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
      Originally Posted by TigerUK View Post

      $15 a day, you never had a business
      Everyone has to start somewhere. Whether you start at $15 or $2. I called my empire of sites a business from the get go when I was earning 50p a day. It's not what you earn that makes a business, it's what you put in.

      But back on topic, yep, google can kiss my ass. Go bing, GOOOOOO.
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  • Profile picture of the author C0DeZeR0
    thanks all the big problem not in adsense to use alternative other ways like CPA

    BUT ITS Problem of visitors ,,,

    i reconsider my site and will see

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  • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
    I had sent a reconsideration request for a6 of my sites that I redone and still no reply. that was over 4 weeks ago. For something algorithm related such as panda a reconsideration request will do nothing.

    So in your case "coronaborcalis" either you were not effected by panda or you recovered due to making changes and panda coming back along.
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  • Profile picture of the author BarryWheeler
    Originally Posted by C0DeZeR0 View Post

    hi ,,

    I Have site have about 4000 UV Daily
    Also Site Have About 1000 UV Daily

    And I Got About 15 $ Daily From Adsense ..

    After Panda For 1 st Site i got now 1500 uv daily and for 2st site
    i got 200 uv daily ,,

    and now i hardly got 3-4 $ daily ,,, :confused:

    my first site got sandboxed my home page disappeared and also
    i lost my keyword ranking ,,

    i got disappointed its now about 2 weeks and no news ,,,

    i dont do any think spam except some Few blog commenting

    and about 10 backlinks ,,

    what shall i do ??

    Google's update didn't destroy your business. Your business was built entirely on a passive income generated from a third party source (Adsense).

    This type of revenue is too unpredictable.

    Your monetization methods of your sites "destroyed" your business.

    Don't blame it entirely on Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam Dhawan
    Keep add the quality + quantity ( 400 to 500 words) content on your websites and try getting traffic traffic from similar niche revelent websites.
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    • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
      Originally Posted by steveseo View Post

      Keep add the quality + quantity ( 400 to 500 words) content on your websites and try getting traffic traffic from similar niche revelent websites.
      Quality and quantity isn't the solution. There are other factors in motion here. I can't understand why so many people are saying to create content that is 400-500 words...what is all that about?

      Don't mean to be rude but that is just the most primitive way of thinking I have ever come across, and many so called "SEO gurus" are claiming the same thing. Perhaps panda should pay a visit to Amazon, Argos, nexttag and others. I don't think they are aware of the quality or quantity.
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    • Profile picture of the author KarimPPC
      Originally Posted by mbmehmet View Post

      Everyone has to start somewhere. Whether you start at $15 or $2. I called my empire of sites a business from the get go when I was earning 50p a day. It's not what you earn that makes a business, it's what you put in.

      But back on topic, yep, google can kiss my ass. Go bing, GOOOOOO.
      Yeah agreed, everyone has to start somewhere, but when you never had a real business and making peanuts $15, and it goes downscaled to $2. You can hardly call it "destroed my business". There was nothing to destroy.

      You're wrong on the second point, business is about making money, money is absolutely the single most important factor in success or failure.

      This isn't called hardworking trade, this is called the money making trade. If you want to do the hardworking trade, sign up to national service and build railways and break rubble into stone or something. Plenty of hardworking there for you to get stuck into.



      Originally Posted by coronaborcalis View Post

      Not at all mate, I am one of the lucky guy who gets the bliss from google. Here is the proof. my site gets back to SERP after the doom days on 6 June. Before sending reconsidering letter make sure that your site follows google guidelines.

      https://www.google.com/support/webma...er=35769&hl=en




      LOL. reconsideration request my ass. This was just a google panda update.. I had a site that was sandboxed in March, it reappearted on serps in Jun 6 for 1 day, and disappeared and the reappeared in June 17th Just like your site. except my site was sandboxed to begin with, yours wasn't.

      This was also the case with a number of other people on w**k**f**e. <--ghey censoring
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      • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
        "The etymology of "business" relates to the state of being busy either as an individual or society as a whole, doing commercially viable and profitable work. The term "business" has at least three usages, depending on the scope — the singular usage to mean a particular organization; the generalized usage to refer to a particular market sector, "the music business" and compound forms such as agribusiness; and the broadest meaning, which encompasses all activity by the community of suppliers of goods and services. However, the exact definition of business, like much else in the philosophy of business, is a matter of debate and complexity of meanings."

        Straight from wiki itself. Your definition might not be that of others therefore although entitled to your opinion, don't make it as a statement as the end all and be all. What I will agree on is that there IS a difference between that of a business being a profitable business and one that isn't. That's the ONLY difference and even then both are still essentially a BUSINESS.

        Hardwork reaps money, again, your definition of hardwork may not be that of others, again, your opinion, not fact. What may be peanuts to you could be almonds for others. If you had any idea about what it takes to start and run a business then you would know everyone starts from somewhere. Hard work isn't reserved for just labourers, it's what's needed to achieve anything. From your comment alone I get the impression that if a boulder hit you in your face you wouldn't bother getting back up.

        I didn't write my original comment to make you out a fool, but you have no right telling someone he didn't really have a business. Telling me I am wrong on my second statement shows me that you are not only foolish, but arrogant too. Tell me you don't agree, but don't tell me I am wrong, otherwise I will be forced to drop my wallet on you and then we will see what's peanuts and what's not.

        P.S You were just raped by bipolar mario ;-)


        Originally Posted by TigerUK View Post

        Yeah agreed, everyone has to start somewhere, but when you never had a real business and making peanuts $15, and it goes downscaled to $2. You can hardly call it "destroed my business". There was nothing to destroy.

        You're wrong on the second point, business is about making money, money is absolutely the single most important factor in success or failure.

        This isn't called hardworking trade, this is called the money making trade. If you want to do the hardworking trade, sign up to national service and build railways and break rubble into stone or something. Plenty of hardworking there for you to get stuck into.

        LOL. reconsideration request my ass. This was just a google panda update.. I had a site that was sandboxed in March, it reappearted on serps in Jun 6 for 1 day, and disappeared and the reappeared in June 17th Just like your site. except my site was sandboxed to begin with, yours wasn't.

        This was also the case with a number of other people on w**k**f**e. <--ghey censoring
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  • Profile picture of the author ProvenViral
    You should look towards other alternatives - I have 1 website doing 5,000 unique views per day and climbing with unique content.
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Many people are being hit with the Google Panda, but in its core it hopes to encourage website admins to create sites targetted at real people
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Linley
    I am thinking the OP and others are blaming google and not taking responsibility for what they have done. If they would have built a legit and real business where users love their sites and content and share it then they would not have lost any business. Even GOOGLE suggests you use social marketing to brand your business. PEOPLE need to stop relying on google for their entire income and business. IT'S JUST FOOLISH and goes against the age old saying "DO NOT PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET!!" Just my personal opinion but has served me well over the years and I could care less what google does or does not do!
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  • Profile picture of the author radivoj
    Well you are not only one Google knock down 6 of my sites so far since this Google slap over 800K sites got hit for "unnatural links"...
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  • Profile picture of the author lexionar
    What funny is these so called Google sandbox is not admitted by Google staff like Mike Cutts himself. Yet, we have seen many sites experiencing significant drops or some sites might as well deindexed completely from the big G.

    I think we better off trying to find other traffic sources and not relying 100% from organic G traffic.
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