What's the best way to backlink my backlinks?

60 replies
  • SEO
  • |
I have a list of about 30,000 backlinks that I've created over time to 75 websites and I want to ensure that they are indexed and stay indexed. So I heard the best thing to do is to build backlinks to those backlinks. I just blasted 400,000 successful blog comments with ScrapeBox across each of the 30k backlinks (i.e. about 13 backlinks to each backlink), but they are all most likely "nofollow" links on autoapprove blogs, and Google says in their webmaster help site that they don't crawl nofollow links, so I'm wondering if that was just pointless. So now I'm considering bookmarking the 30,000 backlinks with Bookmarking Demon (and I'll make sure to post to only dofollow bookmarking sites). SB and BMD were the easiest ones I could come up with. Is there an easier/simpler/better way to backlink my backlinks to ensure they're indexed (and send a little extra link juice)?
#backlink #backlinks
  • Profile picture of the author packerfan
    I usually use scrapebox if I mess with building links to my links. Typically I only worry about it with profile links, but everyone has their own theory.

    You could also use AMR, but every time I start to try that I always end up linking to my sites.
    Signature

    Nothing to see here

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4183470].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      Yeah, the 30,000 links I wanna link to are all from AMR and are aimed directly at my money sites. However, to link to those links using AMR again would be really tedious since there's no way to insert all 30,000 links at once like with ScrapeBox. For example, I'd only be able to get like 2 links out of one AMR article, which means I'd have to submit 15,000 articles to be able to link to all of the 30,000 backlinks.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4183495].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author packerfan
        Originally Posted by Chris Sweeney View Post

        Yeah, the 30,000 links I wanna link to are all from AMR and are aimed directly at my money sites. However, to link to those links using AMR again would be really tedious since there's no way to insert all 30,000 links at once like with ScrapeBox. For example, I'd only be able to get like 2 links out of one AMR article, which means I'd have to submit 15,000 articles to be able to link to all of the 30,000 backlinks.
        Use the URL'r and you can spin URLs and keywords. Wouldn't be that bad, but like I said, every time I think about doing it I just end up linking more to my sites.
        Signature

        Nothing to see here

        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4185947].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
          Originally Posted by packerfan View Post

          Use the URL'r and you can spin URLs and keywords. Wouldn't be that bad, but like I said, every time I think about doing it I just end up linking more to my sites.
          Ah, true, that's actually not a bad option. I totally forgot about the URL'r.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4186270].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
        Originally Posted by Chris Sweeney View Post

        Yeah, the 30,000 links I wanna link to are all from AMR and are aimed directly at my money sites. However, to link to those links using AMR again would be really tedious since there's no way to insert all 30,000 links at once like with ScrapeBox. For example, I'd only be able to get like 2 links out of one AMR article, which means I'd have to submit 15,000 articles to be able to link to all of the 30,000 backlinks.


        I am curios what program you use to harvest all your links/link urls
        thanks
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4225218].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
          Originally Posted by dracoboar View Post

          I am curios what program you use to harvest all your links/link urls
          thanks
          I've just been keeping track of them in an Excel spreadsheet as I create them. I export them from Article Marketing Robot/ScrapeBox/Bookmarking Demon/etc. and put them in the spreadsheet.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4227241].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Steven Miranda
    I would create a pyramid to your backlinks.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4183491].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      Originally Posted by Steven Miranda View Post

      I would create a pyramid to your backlinks.
      How do I do that? Although I'm aware of their existence, I'm not totally familiar with link pyramids/link wheels/etc. because I've never used them myself.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4183502].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author jaspast666
    the sheer volume of those links and the worth of them (low) is actually a perfect scenario for using scrapebox or bookmarking demon or autopliqq, or any other of those automated link builders
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4183555].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author liomath
    Banned
    [DELETED]
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4183566].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      30,000 backlinks? And we are talking backlinks to backlinks?

      This takes backlinking to a whole new level of insanity.

      Paul
      Signature

      If you were disappointed in your results today, lower your standards tomorrow.

      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4183695].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Anthony Phillips
        A strategy I would employ is blog commenting and profile blasts. This way you build diversity and can be sure a high rate of your backlinks get indexed.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4184073].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author frogman
          I find linklicious to be very effective at not only getting the links indexed, but keeping them indexed.
          I'd rerun them thru linklicious every few months.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4184135].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
            Originally Posted by addyj672 View Post

            Against these backlinks what is the ranking of your website. I think you have done a huge job of getting 30000 backlinks. How much time it take to reach 30000 backlinks currently i have 10000 backlinks for my company website.....
            Remember, it's across 75 websites, so that's only about 400 article backlinks per site, which isn't that much.

            Originally Posted by retsek View Post

            Profile links would be the way to go. You'll need xrummer, or find a service for it. I use fiverr for the backlinking my backlinks. There's a good seller that does 8,000 links. I buy one for every 100 backlinks.
            Nice, yeah I need to look into getting me a copy of xrumer.

            Originally Posted by frogman View Post

            I find linklicious to be very effective at not only getting the links indexed, but keeping them indexed.
            I'd rerun them thru linklicious every few months.
            True, I have the $14 subscription, which is like 10,000 links per day I think. I did that to these links about 2 months ago (May 4th) and the very next day, BOOM, all my sites took a little hit and fell a bit in Google (not fun at all). I think it's because I had them pinged all at once. They've since resurfaced, so maybe I'll do it again using the scheduler.
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4185527].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
              Originally Posted by Chris Sweeney View Post


              True, I have the $14 subscription, which is like 10,000 links per day I think. I did that to these links about 2 months ago (May 4th) and the very next day, BOOM, all my sites took a little hit and fell a bit in Google (not fun at all). I think it's because I had them pinged all at once. They've since resurfaced, so maybe I'll do it again using the scheduler.
              Yes, you gotta be careful, you can ping 10,000 links at once which is why using things like pingfarm etc that ping everything you put in ONCE and ALL at ONCE can be dangerous.

              Linklicious.me gives you everything you need to safely get your links crawled and boost your SERPS. We ping your links until you get crawled and drip them out at a rate you choose.
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4199114].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    Profile links would be the way to go. You'll need xrummer, or find a service for it. I use fiverr for the backlinking my backlinks. There's a good seller that does 8,000 links. I buy one for every 100 backlinks.

    Also linklicious.me provides an easy way to ping, schedule and rss any backlink. Only 14 per month for 10k links per day.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4183830].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    you buy the links from a seller, duh..
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4183913].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author liomath
      Banned
      [DELETED]
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4183936].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author retsek
        Originally Posted by liomath View Post

        fiverr is not free?
        If you want to make serious money, it will cost money. If you have several websites or even one large website, it is more efficient to outsource tasks like this so you can concentrate on on-page factors such as content.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4183952].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author addyj672
    Against these backlinks what is the ranking of your website. I think you have done a huge job of getting 30000 backlinks. How much time it take to reach 30000 backlinks currently i have 10000 backlinks for my company website.....
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4184011].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author MaryOlson
    Sorry, I really didn't understand the term, "back links of back link"

    why would you do link building for these 30, back links?
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4185767].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author retsek
      Originally Posted by MaryOlson View Post

      Sorry, I really didn't understand the term, "back links of back link"

      why would you do link building for these 30, back links?
      Think about it.
      What makes a PR5 backlink good to get? It's because it has backlinks itself. So when building your own backlinks, its also a good idea to create backlinks for those backlinks you built. It gives them more power and more link juice flows to your site.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4185860].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
        Originally Posted by retsek View Post

        Think about it.
        What makes a PR5 backlink good to get? It's because it has backlinks itself. So when building your own backlinks, its also a good idea to create backlinks for those backlinks you built. It gives them more power and more link juice flows to your site.
        Yeah, what he said!
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4185870].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      Originally Posted by MaryOlson View Post

      Sorry, I really didn't understand the term, "back links of back link"

      why would you do link building for these 30, back links?
      You create backlinks to your website to increase your rankings in the search engines, which increases your traffic, which will ultimately increase your earnings. However, if those backlinks to your website are never found, you won't rise in the search engines. So if you backlink those backlinks, they are more likely to get found and indexed because something is linking to them, basically saying "this page I'm pointing to is important".
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4185865].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Timmy Deleu
    The best way to get them indexed would be to twitter them but those are a lot of links...

    I would use Bookmarking Demon and if you're up to it. Twitter and ping the twitter page.
    Signature
    Get the ULTIMATE Wordpress SEO Strategy Manual Now - Totally Free (50 pages)
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4185929].message }}
  • Originally Posted by Chris Sweeney View Post

    I have a list of about 30,000 backlinks that I've created over time to 75 websites and I want to ensure that they are indexed and stay indexed. So I heard the best thing to do is to build backlinks to those backlinks. I just blasted 400,000 successful blog comments with ScrapeBox across each of the 30k backlinks (i.e. about 13 backlinks to each backlink), but they are all most likely "nofollow" links on autoapprove blogs, and Google says in their webmaster help site that they don't crawl nofollow links, so I'm wondering if that was just pointless. So now I'm considering bookmarking the 30,000 backlinks with Bookmarking Demon (and I'll make sure to post to only dofollow bookmarking sites). SB and BMD were the easiest ones I could come up with. Is there an easier/simpler/better way to backlink my backlinks to ensure they're indexed (and send a little extra link juice)?
    Backlink pyramids work very well when trying to backlink your backlinks.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4187004].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author liomath
      Banned
      [DELETED]
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4187072].message }}
      • Originally Posted by liomath View Post

        What is that?
        Here's an example:
        A link pyramid is made up of 300 high PR backlinks (layer #1) pointing directly to your website & 2900 profiles with verified links pointing to those 300 high PR links (second layer). Hope that helps.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4187086].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
          Originally Posted by strategic seo services View Post

          Here's an example:
          A link pyramid is made up of 300 high PR backlinks (layer #1) pointing directly to your website & 2900 profiles with verified links pointing to those 300 high PR links (second layer). Hope that helps.
          Nice, thanks Julia (and everyone else for your responses). That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking to do: a link pyramid. I've done some more research on them and apparently they work really well at getting links indexed, keeping them indexed, and passing along some extra link juice.

          Now I'd just like to automate it as much as possible to shoot some links at each of my 30,000 backlinks that link to my money sites. It would be a pain in the grASS to do that all by hand, so I think I'm gonna buy XRumer, and maybe even use AMR again to backlink to my 30,000 AMR backlinks.

          In summary, here's what I'm gonna do:

          1 million low-quality XRumer profile links ---> my 30,000 AMR backlinks ---> my 75 money sites.

          I think I got that right, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I might even go ahead and shoot another layer of like 3 million XRumer links at my bottom tier of 1 million XRumer links. I'm excited to try it out Anyone else have any success doing something like this?
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4191605].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author retsek
            Originally Posted by Chris Sweeney View Post

            Nice, thanks Julia (and everyone else for your responses). That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking to do: a link pyramid. I've done some more research on them and apparently they work really well at getting links indexed, keeping them indexed, and passing along some extra link juice.

            Now I'd just like to automate it as much as possible to shoot some links at each of my 30,000 backlinks that link to my money sites. It would be a pain in the grASS to do that all by hand, so I think I'm gonna buy XRumer, and maybe even use AMR again to backlink to my 30,000 AMR backlinks.

            In summary, here's what I'm gonna do:

            1 million low-quality XRumer profile links ---> my 30,000 AMR backlinks ---> my 75 money sites.

            I think I got that right, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I might even go ahead and shoot another layer of like 3 million XRumer links at my bottom tier of 1 million XRumer links. I'm excited to try it out Anyone else have any success doing something like this?
            Yup I do exactly that.

            My only advice is to never ping them all at the same time. Also when you do your 3 million layer -- do it like 2 - 3 months after the tier before it has been laid.

            Google does not penalize a site or property for external backlinks, but they very often apply 0 value to links which they think are gaming their serps. Drip feeding, and stretching out your links over a period of time will ensure they all count and no red flags are throw up.
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4191655].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author liomath
    Banned
    [DELETED]
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4187125].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Originally Posted by liomath View Post

      Dear Julid, I am sure you are master of profile backlinking, could you please let me know briefly what is the best way of indexing them?

      BEST solution often is defined by - what is your budget and link volume requirements.

      The BEST IMHO would be a system that allows you to pass off large lists of profile links to a 3rd party service and they handle it from start to finish for a nominal fee < $65 a month.

      Alas, such a system for that price point doesnt exist. If your into doing some setup and a bit of ongoing monthly upkeep on yourn and arent scared of making some wordpress blogs to host a plugin script - then I can possibly help you answer this question :-)

      Ive done a about million links by now - indexing that is ...
      Signature
      Rank Ascend Network - High PR Links / Guaranteed Rankings Increase
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4187355].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author hashbury
    I mainly use scrapebox for backlinking my articles. I have about 10000 article links. I try to harvest mainly auto approve blogs, and submit to those. I use a comment scraper program to scrape comments from known auto approve blogs, and then use scrapebox to scrape blogs using the comments as keywords.

    This gives me a pretty good percentage of autoapprove blogs. I have a 40meg connection so I setup scrapebox's fast poster to 500 connections. I let it run overnight on a 1 million list of blogs, and its usually done by morning. I usually get around a 30% sucsess rate and normally more than 50% of those posted end up being autoapprove.

    Using the comment scraper with scrape box I can usually harvest around 3 mil non duplicate links a week.

    I save all the autoapproved links and post to them once or twice a week. I also keep my blog list on random under the settings.

    This has been working for me for around 8 months with a fairly good sucess rate. I just update my list of AMR links for scrapebox after I post a few articles.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4191823].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      Originally Posted by retsek View Post

      Yup I do exactly that.

      My only advice is to never ping them all at the same time. Also when you do your 3 million layer -- do it like 2 - 3 months after the tier before it has been laid.

      Google does not penalize a site or property for external backlinks, but they very often apply 0 value to links which they think are gaming their serps. Drip feeding, and stretching out your links over a period of time will ensure they all count and no red flags are throw up.
      Nice, it's good to know someone else is using the same method with success.

      Originally Posted by hashbury View Post

      I mainly use scrapebox for backlinking my articles. I have about 10000 article links. I try to harvest mainly auto approve blogs, and submit to those. I use a comment scraper program to scrape comments from known auto approve blogs, and then use scrapebox to scrape blogs using the comments as keywords.

      This gives me a pretty good percentage of autoapprove blogs. I have a 40meg connection so I setup scrapebox's fast poster to 500 connections. I let it run overnight on a 1 million list of blogs, and its usually done by morning. I usually get around a 30% sucsess rate and normally more than 50% of those posted end up being autoapprove.

      Using the comment scraper with scrape box I can usually harvest around 3 mil non duplicate links a week.

      I save all the autoapproved links and post to them once or twice a week. I also keep my blog list on random under the settings.

      This has been working for me for around 8 months with a fairly good sucess rate. I just update my list of AMR links for scrapebox after I post a few articles.
      Thanks for your response. I feel like the ScrapeBox autoapprove blog method wouldn't work at all though, because those autoapprove comment links are 99% nofollow, and Google doesn't crawl or pass any link juice from nofollow links (according to Google here: About rel="nofollow" - Webmaster Tools Help and also this link: How Google, Yahoo & Ask.com Treat the No Follow Link Attribute | Search Engine Journal

      With all do respect of course, do you really think that method works? If so, why?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4193702].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    From my personal experience, it doesn't matter whether it's nofollow or dofollow. It still passes link juice. nofollow, however, doesn't pass PR. That's the only difference. PR and Search engine rankings are two separate things.

    Also, it's a good idea to throw in a couple of nofollow links when doing any kind of link building. Diversity is key. I'd a imagine that a Site or page with 1,000 backlinks which are all dofollow, would throw up some kind of flag in Google HQ. For long term benefits the trick is to make it look natural, and having all dofollow isn't natural.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4193724].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      Originally Posted by retsek View Post

      From my personal experience, it doesn't matter whether it's nofollow or dofollow. It still passes link juice. nofollow, however, doesn't pass PR. That's the only difference. PR and Search engine rankings are two separate things.

      Also, it's a good idea to throw in a couple of nofollow links when doing any kind of link building. Diversity is key. I'd a imagine that a Site or page with 1,000 backlinks which are all dofollow, would throw up some kind of flag in Google HQ. For long term benefits the trick is to make it look natural, and having all dofollow isn't natural.
      True, I can understand having a diverse link portfolio, but for indexation purposes, nofollow links just won't cut it. I mean, I could be wrong, but I'm just repeating what Google says. When they see a nofollow link, they don't crawl it. Of course nofollow links don't pass pagerank, but Google also says they don't crawl them either. Therefore, they'd never see my original backlink that my nofollow blog comment link is pointing to, making linking to backlinks from autoapprove nofollow blogs completely useless. Now, you're probably right because you most likely have more experience with it than me, but again, that's just my logic according to what Google says.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4193769].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by Chris Sweeney View Post

        True, I can understand having a diverse link portfolio, but for indexation purposes, nofollow links just won't cut it. I mean, I could be wrong, but I'm just repeating what Google says. When they see a nofollow link, they don't crawl it. Of course nofollow links don't pass pagerank, but Google also says they don't crawl them either. Therefore, they'd never see my original backlink that my nofollow blog comment link is pointing to, making linking to backlinks from autoapprove nofollow blogs completely useless. Now, you're probably right because you most likely have more experience with it than me, but again, that's just my logic according to what Google says.
        Twitter links are nofollow...Yet it's a great way to get pages indexed. Also, Wikipedia links are nofollow, but they are some of the most valuable links there are from an SEO standpoint.
        Signature
        Discover the fastest and easiest ways to create your own valuable products.
        Tons of FREE Public Domain content you can use to make your own content, PLR, digital and POD products.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4227921].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    For sure ..if its for indexing then dofollow is the way to go. But for passing link juice, and making existing links more powerful then I will say it doesn't matter.

    You're right that Google has said that. But what Google says, and what Google does is sometimes different. Their frontman, Matt cutts is famous for that. I remember reading an experiment where they found that Google does still follow 'nofollow' links.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4193824].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      Originally Posted by retsek View Post

      For sure ..if its for indexing then dofollow is the way to go. But for passing link juice, and making existing links more powerful then I will say it doesn't matter.

      You're right that Google has said that. But what Google says, and what Google does is sometimes different. Their frontman, Matt cutts is famous for that. I remember reading an experiment where they found that Google does still follow 'nofollow' links.
      How would it make existing links any more powerful if Google's spider stops when it gets to a nofollow link? Unless you're right and Google actually DOES crawl them. I've heard/read that too (that they do actually crawl nofollow links), and I hope that's the case, because then I'd feel more confident that shooting those nofollow links to my backlinks would work nicely. That seems like the easiest way right now since I already have ScrapeBox and a huge autapprove blog list. I guess the only way I could know for sure is if I just try it myself, huh?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4193991].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    I'll pm you an example site of mine which I've ranked using nofollow, relevant blog comments. It's a very tough keyword as well.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4194010].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      Originally Posted by retsek View Post

      I'll pm you an example site of mine which I've ranked using nofollow, relevant blog comments. It's a very tough keyword as well.
      Nice, I'd really appreciate that.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4194021].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
        Thanks man, looks good. Yeah, I'm definitely giving second thought to nofollow links. I mean, everyone says ScrapeBox is so powerful (which it is), and people make a lot of money selling their autoapprove blog lists, which means that there is a demand for them, which means that those lists must work (even though they are mostly nofollow links). I usually would immediately disregard them though because they were mostly nofollow. I guess I will start using SB and the AA blog lists more and see what happens.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4194072].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author hashbury
          Originally Posted by Chris Sweeney View Post

          Thanks man, looks good. Yeah, I'm definitely giving second thought to nofollow links. I mean, everyone says ScrapeBox is so powerful (which it is), and people make a lot of money selling their autoapprove blog lists, which means that there is a demand for them, which means that those lists must work (even though they are mostly nofollow links). I usually would immediately disregard them though because they were mostly nofollow. I guess I will start using SB and the AA blog lists more and see what happens.
          I always thought that nofollow links were crap too, but after reading through a few black_hat forums I thought I would give it a try.

          The first site I tried it on got sanboxed or the google dance or whatever you want to call it. The site went from 0 links to 20000 links in site explorer in under 3 weeks. Eventually it came back (almost 3 months later lol) and it ranked number one for its search term.

          My next experiment was to see if I could rank an article on enzine for a fairly high competition keyword. I used 3 different anchor texts and blasted it for weeks. The article ranked in the top 5 spots for all three anchors.

          Now while I believe the quality of a nofollow link is not very good it does seem to still get indexed and count as a backlink. After doing these experiments, I started using scrapebox pretty much soley to backlink my amr links. I havent went through all of my amr links because of how many their are but site explorer shows a minimum of 100 links to each of my articles. The sites I have been doing this for have been ranking very well too. In the resource I have been putting a link back to the main domain and a link back to the original article using the keywords I want the main site and article to rank for.

          This has been working great for me, and I plan to go back to all my older sites and use the same method. The only negative thing I have seen from this is that a newer site I was working on totally lost its rankings for all its keywords. This was just a short while ago and Im sure its just doing that good ole G dance. The site was only about a month old and went from 0 to 2000 links in a matter of days using AMR. Then I blasted the AMR links with scraperbox, but I believe AMR was probably the cause of lost rankings and not scrapebox.

          You should really try scrapebox for your backlinks. Learn how to scrape a high percentage of auto approve links and you should be set.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4194209].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
            Originally Posted by hashbury View Post

            I always thought that nofollow links were crap too, but after reading through a few black_hat forums I thought I would give it a try.

            The first site I tried it on got sanboxed or the google dance or whatever you want to call it. The site went from 0 links to 20000 links in site explorer in under 3 weeks. Eventually it came back (almost 3 months later lol) and it ranked number one for its search term.

            My next experiment was to see if I could rank an article on enzine for a fairly high competition keyword. I used 3 different anchor texts and blasted it for weeks. The article ranked in the top 5 spots for all three anchors.

            Now while I believe the quality of a nofollow link is not very good it does seem to still get indexed and count as a backlink. After doing these experiments, I started using scrapebox pretty much soley to backlink my amr links. I havent went through all of my amr links because of how many their are but site explorer shows a minimum of 100 links to each of my articles. The sites I have been doing this for have been ranking very well too. In the resource I have been putting a link back to the main domain and a link back to the original article using the keywords I want the main site and article to rank for.

            This has been working great for me, and I plan to go back to all my older sites and use the same method. The only negative thing I have seen from this is that a newer site I was working on totally lost its rankings for all its keywords. This was just a short while ago and Im sure its just doing that good ole G dance. The site was only about a month old and went from 0 to 2000 links in a matter of days using AMR. Then I blasted the AMR links with scraperbox, but I believe AMR was probably the cause of lost rankings and not scrapebox.

            You should really try scrapebox for your backlinks. Learn how to scrape a high percentage of auto approve links and you should be set.
            Wow man that's awesome. I'm pretty much convinced then and will certainly give it a try. I have a 2.6 million autoapprove blog list that I can get around a 25% successful post rate with. I'll let it run some more on my AMR links and see what happens. I guess you wouldn't suggest blasting directly to my money sites with such a list though, would ya?
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4196148].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author hashbury
              Originally Posted by Chris Sweeney View Post

              Wow man that's awesome. I'm pretty much convinced then and will certainly give it a try. I have a 2.6 million autoapprove blog list that I can get around a 25% successful post rate with. I'll let it run some more on my AMR links and see what happens. I guess you wouldn't suggest blasting directly to my money sites with such a list though, would ya?
              I would not blast my money sites. I honestly dont think blasting your money sites will hurt them in the long term, but just think if someone (google) did a manual review of your site. They would see all those spammy links.

              This is just my opinion. Also when I blast my articles I use generated names so I dont compete with my own sites articles.
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4196783].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author wonema1
    Guys, this has been valuable information for me,
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4197103].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author ProvenViral
    You might want to do a linkwheel or a link pyramid and make your money off those.

    That's possibly the best way to do it.
    Signature
    "Things may come to those who wait, but only things left by those who hustle". - Abraham Lincoln
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4199147].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author billspaced
    Originally Posted by Chris Sweeney View Post

    I have a list of about 30,000 backlinks that I've created over time to 75 websites and I want to ensure that they are indexed and stay indexed. So I heard the best thing to do is to build backlinks to those backlinks.
    For your volume, I would not suggest the method I'm about to describe (it would take you 1,393.9 years, give or take )

    This is for future reference. It works when you blog regularly.

    Set up an "auto social syndication" in that whenever you make a blog post, a service, such as ping.fm or HootSuite, picks up the RSS feed and delivers the new content to a plethora of social sites (like Twitter and Facebook). Those pages get indexed and usually crawled. Your sites that are linked to will consequently get crawled, too.

    Remember, if a page never gets crawled, it will NEVER get indexed, and will therefor never count for anything.
    Signature

    Bill Davis
    Chief Marketing Officer, SoMoLo Marketing

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4199877].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author frogman
      I'd go with a linklicious drip.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4200605].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
        Originally Posted by hashbury View Post

        I would not blast my money sites. I honestly dont think blasting your money sites will hurt them in the long term, but just think if someone (google) did a manual review of your site. They would see all those spammy links.

        This is just my opinion. Also when I blast my articles I use generated names so I dont compete with my own sites articles.
        True, yeah that makes sense. Thanks for everyone's feedback, it's been really helpful. And if anyone else has any suggestions, feel free to keep posting!
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4201022].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Contrary to popular belief the search engines don't ignore no-follow links entirely, just that they don't grant them as much link juice as do-follow links
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4202461].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author IMentreprenette
    This is a really good thread. Actually learning lots here..I'll subscribe to this thread and will definitely try some of the suggestions.

    Very helpful Thanks all!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4225085].message }}
  • I think this is time taking process and not so much effective also.
    I hvn't tried but let's see how many back links you will make.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4225397].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Rimsha55
    You should manually work as posting and commenting with anchor text keyword signatures...
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4225609].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author busygal21
      You're really doing this backwards, I think. I'd just leave them alone and start with a proper strategy. You really should be setting up some web 2.0 sites, and building back links to them that link in a random wheel. Having different layers. Your scraped links should link to those sites, thus passing link juice, but protecting your money site. Just my 2 cents.

      Valerie
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4233753].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    mmm... I think you can try backlink indexer, backlink energizer, or stuff like that. Kkcoon's wso in here which is called backlinks neuclear can help u I think.
    Signature

    For best hostel in malang https://bedpackers.com & mold inspectors orlando : https://waterdamagerestorationorland...d-inspections/

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4227329].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Originally Posted by visimedia View Post

      mmm... I think you can try backlink indexer, backlink energizer, or stuff like that. Kkcoon's wso in here which is called backlinks neuclear can help u I think.

      Energize them baby!
      Signature
      Rank Ascend Network - High PR Links / Guaranteed Rankings Increase
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4227498].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author App Developers
    Holy smokes, you have taken backlinks to your backlinks to a whole new level. Lots of good advice here. You should let us know what happens after you backlink to your backlinks....!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4228795].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Twitter links are nofollow...Yet it's a great way to get pages indexed. Also, Wikipedia links are nofollow, but they are some of the most valuable links there are from an SEO standpoint.
      Wow, thanks Kurt that's a really good point that I totally forgot about. I've actually used the Twitter method in the past to get new sites indexed and it does indeed work. Glad a Warrior veteran like yourself could join in the conversation!

      Originally Posted by App Developers View Post

      Holy smokes, you have taken backlinks to your backlinks to a whole new level. Lots of good advice here. You should let us know what happens after you backlink to your backlinks....!
      Sure thing, I'll definitely keep the thread posted on any major progress I make in my "backlinking my backlinks" endeavors.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4228893].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
        Ok, I just came across this article on Search Engine Journal from February 7, 2011 on the nofollow attribute, so here is the official word straight from the horse's mouth.

        "Let's be absolutely clear about this: Links that use the rel=nofollow microformat do not pass PageRank and are not used in our ranking algorithms. This does not mean that the target URL will never be crawled. By adding a rel=nofollow to a link, you're essentially removing a sign pointing to the restroom. Just because that sign is gone does not mean that Googlebot will never find the restroom. Using rel=nofollow is not a way to block crawling altogether - if you need to do that, then use the robots.txt file." -Matt Cutts

        To read the article on Search Engine Journal, go here: Nofollow Link Attribute - So How Does Google Treat It (& Do We Need to Care?) | Search Engine Journal

        So there it is! Google DOES (yes, DOES) crawl nofollow links. Therefore, pointing ScrapeBox links from autoapprove blog lists to your backlinks will indeed help your backlinks get crawled and indexed. I hope that clears some things up for anyone else like me who needed an official word on a contradictory topic. Google should probably make it a little more clear in their Webmaster Tools article on this topic (here: About rel="nofollow" - Webmaster Tools Help), because as of now, it says this about the nofollow attribute: "...it lets you easily instruct robots not to crawl a specific link."

        As for me, I'm going to trust Matt Cutts' statement above and start blasting my backlinks with ScrapeBox comments, whether they be dofollow or nofollow.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4229150].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    The part where he says "not used in our ranking algorithms". That part is lies - or maybe a half truth. He does that alot - Mix real information with misinformation.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4229170].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author hashbury
      Originally Posted by retsek View Post

      The part where he says "not used in our ranking algorithms". That part is lies - or maybe a half truth. He does that alot - Mix real information with misinformation.
      I totally agree with this.

      There is more going on with nofollow links than we know about.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4229286].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by retsek View Post

        The part where he says "not used in our ranking algorithms". That part is lies - or maybe a half truth. He does that alot - Mix real information with misinformation.
        Originally Posted by hashbury View Post

        I totally agree with this.

        There is more going on with nofollow links than we know about.
        I tend to agree with this. My guess is that a nofollow link probably doesn't count for PageRank.

        However, another guess is that nofollow links are considered when looking at the entire linking pattern and that having only dofollow links isn't optimal either. Having a good mix of nofollow and dofollow seems to be the most natural pattern, and this could affect a Google's "trustrank".

        So while nofollow links may not count, they could make dofollow links count more.
        Signature
        Discover the fastest and easiest ways to create your own valuable products.
        Tons of FREE Public Domain content you can use to make your own content, PLR, digital and POD products.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4229304].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author seomilo
    I think this link pyramid is getting more important day by day.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[4233712].message }}

Trending Topics