6000 backlinks at once put me from page 1 to 3 on google

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I was sitting comfortably at the bottom of page one on google. I wanted to get to the top so ordered a "blast" of 6000 backlinks. Straight away I was thrown back to page 3. I'm hoping it will even out and go back to page 1.

But could be a warning for others - Google may just like the slow organic stuff.

Any one else had similar experiences?
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  • Profile picture of the author dtang4
    Sounds like you got xrumer links? A sudden blast of xrumer links is frowned upon by Google.

    However, if you continue to get those consistently, like 6K every week or something, you should be fine.
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    • Profile picture of the author StoneWilson
      Originally Posted by dtang4 View Post

      Sounds like you got xrumer links? A sudden blast of xrumer links is frowned upon by Google.

      However, if you continue to get those consistently, like 6K every week or something, you should be fine.
      Second this, Google doesn't like backlinks suddenly raise or decrease, since you've added 6k backlinks, keep adding that number of backlinks every day, it might be helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Armstrong
    This seems to be a pretty common pattern for people who blast backlinks. Often the sites will return to their original position though.

    And yes, all the SEO advice I've heard states that you need to make your backlinking pattern as natural as possible.

    I still seem to get some of my sites bouncing around the rankings regardless of this but that could be because they're all under 7 months old.
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  • Profile picture of the author razorhound
    You're pretty lucky, last time I did that it went from page 2 to page 80 lol. Took 3 months to recover and not gonna do that again.
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    • Profile picture of the author Web Tempest
      Originally Posted by razorhound View Post

      You're pretty lucky, last time I did that it went from page 2 to page 80 lol. Took 3 months to recover and not gonna do that again.
      haha wow 80. Google must've really hated it
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    • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
      Originally Posted by razorhound View Post

      You're pretty lucky, last time I did that it went from page 2 to page 80 lol. Took 3 months to recover and not gonna do that again.
      Yeah, that happened to me too. I was at the top of page 2 and did the same thing. I now sit at position 750. If I play fair, how long will the penalty last? Anything I can do to "fix" it?
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      • Profile picture of the author razorhound
        Originally Posted by Carl Brown View Post

        Yeah, that happened to me too. I was at the top of page 2 and did the same thing. I now sit at position 750. If I play fair, how long will the penalty last? Anything I can do to "fix" it?
        I don't think there is a quick fix. Some sites I didn't touch them and they came back as well. Some took 2-3 months and some maybe 1-2 weeks.
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  • Profile picture of the author bam2bam
    Thanks for sharing... I am not going do this now I know this ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    It could just be the Google dance to be honest- sometimes after a blast like this your site will come back ranking even higher.

    I mean I think Xrumer blasts work, but you should have a lot of other types of links as well. Social bookmarks, articles, blog comments, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author trishseo
      Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post

      It could just be the Google dance to be honest- sometimes after a blast like this your site will come back ranking even higher.

      I mean I think Xrumer blasts work, but you should have a lot of other types of links as well. Social bookmarks, articles, blog comments, etc.
      I second this. Search engine rankings are not a straight line to the top. There is lots of zig zags on the way. It's just the nature of how the system works.
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    • Profile picture of the author jasonthewebmaster
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      Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post

      It could just be the Google dance to be honest- sometimes after a blast like this your site will come back ranking even higher.

      I mean I think Xrumer blasts work, but you should have a lot of other types of links as well. Social bookmarks, articles, blog comments, etc.

      I agree. Too many times I have seen this happen, only to see the site jump back to a position higher than it was in the first place. Typically people freak out and blame the most recent SEO/LinkBuilding service provider like it's their fault.

      Then a week later, when the site goes back up, they give credit to either themselves or the person they just bought more links from yesterday.

      My point here is that there is a delay. Google doesn't INSTANTLY change rankings. Same with Alexa ranking. Alexa's rankings are computer quarterly... so if your alexa ranking is going down it has nothing to do with the current activities, but rather what you did 3 months ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
    Every time I add a ton of backlinks the site being backlinked drops in ranking and sometimes disappears completely. But eventually comes back stronger than before.

    Seems like Google is trying to decide where your new ranking should be.

    Just keep building backlinks.

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  • Profile picture of the author KabirC
    You are doing the Google Dance!!! Must be a first timer, last time it happened to me was when I used Dripable, my site went from the 2nd page, to the 25th page and now it sits at the number 6 spot for a highly competitive keyword. My recommendation sign up for a drip-feed backlink place so that it looks organic in Google's eyes, Dripable even has a free 7 day trial for you to use!
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  • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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    I dont know whats ur keyword. But I can give u some statistics. I am now working to rank #1 my client's homepage for a very competitive keyword "San Angelo". the website was on #24. And after working 2.5 weeks the website is now on page 1 and dancing between #4 to #7 places. What I did? Just built 100 forum profiles/posts+70 social bookmarking and networking accounts+3 articles+just 3 relevant backlinks. And I am implementing a link pyramid. I hope when I will complete the pyramid the website will be on #1.

    Now question is why em telling u this long history?!? Coz just wanted to say while organic link building is working and u can hire organic link builders in oDesk.com or any other freelancing marketplaces why u are purchasing 6k backlinks and hurting ur site?

    My opinion is just create a master plan. Then outsource ur link building part. Use 1, 2, 3 or more link builders who are experienced. That should be enough for making some money.....
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    • Profile picture of the author soulravager
      Originally Posted by rafiseo View Post

      I dont know whats ur keyword. But I can give u some statistics. I am now working to rank #1 my client's homepage for a very competitive keyword "San Angelo". the website was on #24. And after working 2.5 weeks the website is now on page 1 and dancing between #4 to #7 places. What I did? Just built 100 forum profiles/posts+70 social bookmarking and networking accounts+3 articles+just 3 relevant backlinks. And I am implementing a link pyramid. I hope when I will complete the pyramid the website will be on #1.

      Now question is why em telling u this long history?!? Coz just wanted to say while organic link building is working and u can hire organic link builders in oDesk.com or any other freelancing marketplaces why u are purchasing 6k backlinks and hurting ur site?

      My opinion is just create a master plan. Then outsource ur link building part. Use 1, 2, 3 or more link builders who are experienced. That should be enough for making some money.....
      And who lied to you that "San Angelo"is a competative keyword ?

      And any keyword that is worth anything can't be ranked with a few low quality backlinks.
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      • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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        Originally Posted by soulravager View Post

        And who lied to you that "San Angelo"is a competative keyword ?

        And any keyword that is worth anything can't be ranked with a few low quality backlinks.
        Well u may be checked the keyword using google adward or any other keyword tool/tools. :p

        Did u checked the websites those are ranked on first page for the keyword?? Go and do a short research. U will see(if u have enough knowledge) how many authority pages are ranked there. Then come and tell me again. Huh?
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    • Profile picture of the author rakkerus
      Originally Posted by rafiseo View Post

      I dont know whats ur keyword. But I can give u some statistics. I am now working to rank #1 my client's homepage for a very competitive keyword "San Angelo". the website was on #24. And after working 2.5 weeks the website is now on page 1 and dancing between #4 to #7 places. What I did? Just built 100 forum profiles/posts+70 social bookmarking and networking accounts+3 articles+just 3 relevant backlinks. And I am implementing a link pyramid. I hope when I will complete the pyramid the website will be on #1.

      Now question is why em telling u this long history?!? Coz just wanted to say while organic link building is working and u can hire organic link builders in oDesk.com or any other freelancing marketplaces why u are purchasing 6k backlinks and hurting ur site?

      My opinion is just create a master plan. Then outsource ur link building part. Use 1, 2, 3 or more link builders who are experienced. That should be enough for making some money.....
      Seems useful. I create backlinks in forum and social network Facebook, twitter too, traffic increase a bit. Should I continue?
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  • Profile picture of the author stephencammeron
    Some irregularities such as blasting of backlinks would only result to inconsistency, which is totally something that is not good.
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  • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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    Ok another thing I want to focus on. U said low "quality backlinks". Do u think all forum threads are low quality? All web 2.0 accounts are low quality? Not at all. If u are not new in this field then u must know how can we convert those N/A Pr backlinks to hot cake for spiders. There are lots of methods and secrets. Those can be applied to make a tweeter profile attractive for SE bots. Same for forum threads. And now my question to u.

    Did u noticed that each WF thread get indexed by google within few hours or minutes? If yes then why?

    Hope make sense....
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  • Profile picture of the author online4cash
    Manually backlink And Slowly Backlink Will Not Do That..??
    I Think Now You definitely Got Repent..??
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  • Profile picture of the author cellphonetips
    Yes, i have an experience about it. i have post 100 about post in different forums and for my one of new website, i did add a link for new website. It mean 100 post links from 10 forums about 1000 link to new website> Google downs the keywords.

    So do link blast to direct website. But still you can try tier 1, tier 2, tier 3 for diverting link value to your money website. But don't point all links to your main website
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  • Profile picture of the author Klemen Znidar
    You will get back. This is known as google dance.

    -m
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  • Profile picture of the author christiehemme
    Originally Posted by Web Tempest View Post

    I was sitting comfortably at the bottom of page one on google. I wanted to get to the top so ordered a "blast" of 6000 backlinks. Straight away I was thrown back to page 3. I'm hoping it will even out and go back to page 1.

    But could be a warning for others - Google may just like the slow organic stuff.

    Any one else had similar experiences?
    May be Google could not take this backlink blast. Google find it a inconsistent way of building backlinks. Don't worry your site will be back to its position very soon. Good Luck...
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  • Profile picture of the author daweelmac
    Google can detect if you have a sudden blast of backlinks. Make building backlinks natural and surely Google will love you for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author filippot51
    ahahaha you comment made me laugh im sorry
    i wish to add here my experience i had a blog on page 2 of google..i downloaded a demo of a program that send your articles to different directories,well the directories were sometime pathetic,this a part my blog when from position 2 to NOWHERE
    i didnt find it in the first 50 or 100 oe even 300 pages i frankly dont know where it is in your opinion my blog will ever come back to page 2 or my hopes are totally lost?
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon74
    we all know that google doesn't like automation especially if you blast your site with 6000 backlinks. Build your links gradually, I always make a plan on how many backlinks I need to get to page 1 and build the links slowly over a period of time depending on the kw. I have many sites on page one of google and they are still there after the panda update.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Miranda
    That was not a smart move depending on if you did it only once at don't plan on continuing. Blasting 6000 links at once is never seen great in Google eyes unless you are on a high popularity site like cnn.com or something.
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  • Profile picture of the author shab
    Originally Posted by Web Tempest View Post

    Hardly helpful. Guessing you like the organic approach
    Nice trashing Rich Struck. Web Tempest, you might want to throw those backlinks at Rich Struck's sites.. lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      How is buying xrummer backlinks any more "moral" than writing stupid articles and adding your link?
      If you don't understand the difference in types of backlinks, you need to learn for your own profit.

      Rich was right. There have been warnings here for years about slamming useless backlinks to sites - and people still want to "try it". If you have a site sitting on page 1 trying this type of fake SEO is a sure way to drop your site down.

      Sites reach page one because google judges them to have value in the niche. Blasting spammy links has nothing to do with value and this is what happens.

      kay

      (For those who think issuing infractions is cute because someone tells you a truth you don't want to hear - get a life)
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    guys do you have experience with dripable?
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  • Profile picture of the author rotten72
    When you build backlinks you need to make it appear natural. 6000 back links in one blast is NOT natural. Expect for your website to fall even further.

    You will need to behave and put in a lot of work if you want to move back up in the rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author auradev
    Yeah you can't be increasing the quantity of links so dramatically. Check my footer for a good alternative to xrummer.
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  • Profile picture of the author dagaul101
    Google has always wanted naturally progression, a sudden burst of traffic and links and you could find your rankings devalued overnight
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    • Profile picture of the author limon2009
      Originally Posted by dagaul101 View Post

      Google has always wanted naturally progression, a sudden burst of traffic and links and you could find your rankings devalued overnight
      YES, you are right, i made around 2500 links over night and suddenly my search engine traffic down badly.
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  • Profile picture of the author lewis23
    Who where they from could i have details
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnnyC123
    Originally Posted by Rich Struck View Post

    Good, you got what you deserved.
    You're just a ray of sunshine
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  • Profile picture of the author abhibh
    Were they tiered links ? If not than 6000 links blast can harm your sites ranking. Same thing happened to my site when i blasted it with like 2000 profile links 2 months back.
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  • Profile picture of the author ARVolund
    I am probably one of the biggest advocates of automation you will find on this board but even I read you post and my first thought was " what the hell was he thinking"

    It is not a matter of slow or organic, I have sites where I drop 10k links on them most every single day and they rank just fine. I have others sites that to do that kind of link building to would be a very bad idea.

    How many links did your site already have? A site with a few hundred, 6k is a lot, a site with 50k, 6k not really as much of a problem.

    The closer your site gets to the top the more careful you need to be in your planning.

    Doing a one time blast of any kind of link is not a good idea, whatever kind and number of link building you do needs to be fairly consistent. What you need to do now is build some more links every day/week that are different from the kind that you did with your blast. If your blast was profile links then I would go with links in content. Articles, blog posts etc, just keep building and you will come back stronger than ever.


    Originally Posted by Web Tempest View Post

    I was sitting comfortably at the bottom of page one on google. I wanted to get to the top so ordered a "blast" of 6000 backlinks. Straight away I was thrown back to page 3. I'm hoping it will even out and go back to page 1.

    But could be a warning for others - Google may just like the slow organic stuff.

    Any one else had similar experiences?
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  • Profile picture of the author amoeba
    thats good results imho,,,you are not yet blanked away,so its cool. the one thing you shud b doing is do it consistently..every week atleast
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  • Profile picture of the author TheKeys
    Very interesting. I guess that's what happens when you alter the organic path.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Originally Posted by Rich Struck View Post

    Good, you got what you deserved.
    :rolleyes:

    - Sharing knowledge? NOP.
    - Helping others? NOP.
    - Good community member? NOP.

    You post one liners all day long picking fights with everyone. I am amazed mods are so soft with you.

    Edit: The Warning in your post is mine. Quite frankly more users should give you one. Perhaps then you realize how lame your response was.

    If you ain't got nothing useful to post, don' post it. Forum etiquette 101.
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  • Profile picture of the author cheekugames
    Originally Posted by HigherPrThanGod View Post

    Which is what, exactly?

    How is buying xrummer backlinks any more "moral" than writing stupid articles and adding your link?

    (not that I currently do either, mind you)
    This is the best comment i have read on warrior forum in one year of me being a member ....
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  • Profile picture of the author mazdak
    DO not play with google anymore!
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      Originally Posted by mazdak View Post

      DO not play with google anymore!
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  • Originally Posted by Web Tempest View Post

    I was sitting comfortably at the bottom of page one on google. I wanted to get to the top so ordered a "blast" of 6000 backlinks. Straight away I was thrown back to page 3. I'm hoping it will even out and go back to page 1.

    But could be a warning for others - Google may just like the slow organic stuff.

    Any one else had similar experiences?
    This sounds like the Google dance. Just keep on building high quality backlinks. Your site will eventually move back up.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    If you're still indexed then I wouldn't worry too much just yet. My guess is that Google is re-positioning your site. Usually you'll notice a big drop before you settle back to normal. (Sometimes even higher than your previous position.)

    If the backlinks were decent then you'll probably get a little boost. I'd just try to be a bit more consistent. Random blasts can raise a red flag.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnnyPR
    Link velocity is a bit overrated IMO however if you're going to chuck thousands of links and then nothing then Google is going to get a bit pissed!

    Consistency is the best policy here though, so if you're building on a weekly basis your site will almost certainly come back.

    Jonathan
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
    When I add a ton of new backlinks to a site or page I DO NOT ping them! Let Google and the other search engines find them on their own over time. Kinda like your own drip feed method.

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  • Profile picture of the author tadsam12
    Google preferred those site who have quality backlinks its mean that you create 6k-7k backlinks and google push up your site. if this happen then everybody create 6-7k backlinks and get the business.
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    • Profile picture of the author vverrall
      I am a newbie and I was told that the missing link was back links after article marketing; some of you disagree. Who do I listen to?
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      • Profile picture of the author ARVolund
        Originally Posted by billo View Post

        by doing blak hat seo the search engine giant goooooogle will penalize you please don't this again
        What he did was so far from black hat they are not even in the same country.

        Originally Posted by mypctechs View Post

        That's cool that you learned something from this. Any time you order thousands of links all at once they can't possibly be anything other than SPAM. Slow and steady wins the race.
        Well I prefer fast and steady myself.

        Originally Posted by vverrall View Post

        I am a newbie and I was told that the missing link was back links after article marketing; some of you disagree. Who do I listen to?
        You find out what works for you by testing. NEVER just take anyone's word for what works and what does not. What works for me and the niches I do may not work for you and your niche.

        You test something and then you test it some more. When you find something that works you keep using it and get rid of the stuff that does not.

        Now there are some general guidelines you can use to start. But remember these are my guidelines someone elses will be different.

        1. Good content on your site
        2. Good internal link structure on your site.
        Most everyone agrees on the first two

        3. Backlinks-this is where the fun begins
        a. links in related content are much better than stand alone links
        b. relevancy of the site your link comes from does not matter. only the content around your link.
        c. steady is better than one hit blasts.
        d You should have a variety of link types
        e. You should have links from as many different sites and ip addresses as possible.
        f Get as many links from actual high PR pages as possible.
        g. and last but not least there is really no such thing as a bad backlink.
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    • Profile picture of the author ARVolund
      Originally Posted by tadsam12 View Post

      Google preferred those site who have quality backlinks its mean that you create 6k-7k backlinks and google push up your site. if this happen then everybody create 6-7k backlinks and get the business.
      That is what a lot of people do and fairly successfully at that. It has nothing to do with how many links he created, it is more a matter of how they were applied and possibly what type they were (I did not see the type of links clarified).

      Google wants you to build a great site and then wait for people to just find it, decide it is great and build links to it. If you do anything other than that you are attempting to game the system. Now some people push the line more than others but if you are doing ANYTHING that is unnatural then you are attempting to game the system and have no moral high ground to preach to anyone about link building.

      The difference between manual and automated link building is only one of efficiency. In both cases you are trying to fool Google into thinking something that is not true.

      Now some people do no artificial link building at all and manage to do well without it. My hat is off to them and when they bitch about link spammers those people do have the right to get up on that soapbox and preach(or bitch).

      Anyone else though is really hypocritical at best.
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    • Profile picture of the author johnyroger
      I had no idea this can happen too you can not fool google, does not like link blasts best is to get links build manually automated services look good but do not solve the purpose.
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    • Profile picture of the author bwmk2011
      Originally Posted by tadsam12 View Post

      Google preferred those site who have quality backlinks its mean that you create 6k-7k backlinks and google push up your site. if this happen then everybody create 6-7k backlinks and get the business.
      6-7k Back links not a easy stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author billo
    by doing blak hat seo the search engine giant goooooogle will penalize you please don't this again
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    google likes natural backlinks...
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  • Profile picture of the author upgradereality
    But if Google totally is against blasting, what's to prevent me from blasting my competition and getting them to lose their rankings?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ken Durham
      Originally Posted by upgradereality View Post

      But if Google totally is against blasting, what's to prevent me from blasting my competition and getting them to lose their rankings?
      I hear this mentioned a lot, but no one is actually testing it. Perhaps someone should try and see what happens. You might open up an entire new method of SEO. "Be the least penalized site in your niche and then you will hold top rankings"...
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    • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
      Originally Posted by TristramLodge View Post

      It why its not a good idea to use software and robots to get your backlinks.
      Way better to use a 100% related forum and drop in content links? :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author coolidge
    Originally Posted by Web Tempest View Post

    I was sitting comfortably at the bottom of page one on google. I wanted to get to the top so ordered a "blast" of 6000 backlinks. Straight away I was thrown back to page 3. I'm hoping it will even out and go back to page 1.

    But could be a warning for others - Google may just like the slow organic stuff.

    Any one else had similar experiences?
    6,000?? Sounds like a suicide mission lolz You need to do it slowly. That many backlinks at once is not a good idea.
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    • Profile picture of the author MegaC
      Just because you blasted 6,000 links at once, it does not mean it got indexed all at once. Especially if these were profile links then it'll take even longer to get indexed. And no way is this considered black hat as some has mentioned.

      Originally Posted by coolidge View Post

      6,000?? Sounds like a suicide mission lolz You need to do it slowly. That many backlinks at once is not a good idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author v1ncen
    this is a google dance,
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  • Profile picture of the author timr
    I was always curious about those blasts of backlinks software or services. I guess we should not fool with mother nature. Google of course being that.
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  • Profile picture of the author addison.agnote
    Lucky you. But I think that's called a black-hat and Google don't like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author danhoff
    I guess your site is fcked now !
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  • Profile picture of the author BestSEO
    I read these replies and find that you all give G**gle way to damn much credit!!! You think they are so damn smart and you are so damn scared of them!!! I blast every I site build and they dance here and there and then they go to page one usually and this is a fact... You go ahead and build them naturally with 10 new links a day! I will do my thousands a day!

    Do not think any search engine is as smart as your giving them credit for!
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh MacDonald
    If you were already ranking, you should have used white hat techniques.
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  • Profile picture of the author adsblink
    please donot this again because google will sendbox your site and your site will never came on top 10
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  • Profile picture of the author danhoff
    Did your site recover ?
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  • Profile picture of the author breezynetworks
    I will be blasting my home page with 1000 blog comments and 1000 profile links per day, I will report back to this thread in about 1-2 weeks to let you know the results
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  • Profile picture of the author Web Tempest
    for those who asked - site did not recover - but I kind of gave up on it and haven't been building backlinks.

    So if you want to bring down your competition - buy them a backlink blast
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    • Profile picture of the author Davide Guarneri
      Originally Posted by Web Tempest View Post

      for those who asked - site did not recover - but I kind of gave up on it and haven't been building backlinks.

      So if you want to bring down your competition - buy them a backlink blast
      Penalties like this are never permanent, sooner or later the competition would be back, as should your site (some people here mentioned 3 or more months).
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Web Tempest View Post

      for those who asked - site did not recover - but I kind of gave up on it and haven't been building backlinks.

      So if you want to bring down your competition - buy them a backlink blast
      Used to be considered preposterous but a few month sago people started getting notices in the their webmaster accounts regarding spam links and their were reports of people getting slapped. If your site has solid links however it helps to balance out your portfolio.

      I do not think you can hurt a site with good authority links already in their link portfolio but there now IS some possibility that without those you can tank a site.
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  • Profile picture of the author cagliostro
    I would suggest to send an other 6000 links after a while and you will be ok. Backlinks cannot hurt your site, no matter what they say. Worst case, they are not counted.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    Seeing your site rankings disappear overnight is actually quite common when running seo campaigns. Some people call it the "Google Dance". I'm personally not sure why it happens but I do know with 100% certainty that your site ranking will return relatively soon. Not only that but I predict the ranking will be much improved as well.

    Some folks fear that their rankings disappeared because Google did not like the links they submitted. But that just isn't the case. The worse that would happen if Google disliked your links is that they would disallow the link juice flowing from them to your site. It would have no effect whatsoever on the existing backlinks that were already in place. Otherwise you'd be able to over backlink to your competitors sites to cause them to be "blacklisted" by Google.

    The only thing you can do to get blacklisted like that is if you add a link to a link farm or other bad neighborhood on your site.

    Best thing I can tell you is to sit back and watch the site return to page one. You'll get you there before you know it.

    I also challenge you to submit the same amount of links to each of the competing sites ranked ahead of you now. If your theory holds water you should very easily bump them down the serps. If you do that you'll see I am right on the money with what I'm saying.
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    • Profile picture of the author Davide Guarneri
      Originally Posted by mattlaclear View Post

      Seeing your site rankings disappear overnight is actually quite common when running seo campaigns. Some people call it the "Google Dance". I'm personally not sure why it happens but I do know with 100% certainty that your site ranking will return relatively soon. Not only that but I predict the ranking will be much improved as well.

      Some folks fear that their rankings disappeared because Google did not like the links they submitted. But that just isn't the case. The worse that would happen if Google disliked your links is that they would disallow the link juice flowing from them to your site. It would have no effect whatsoever on the existing backlinks that were already in place. Otherwise you'd be able to over backlink to your competitors sites to cause them to be "blacklisted" by Google.

      The only thing you can do to get blacklisted like that is if you add a link to a link farm or other bad neighborhood on your site.

      Best thing I can tell you is to sit back and watch the site return to page one. You'll get you there before you know it.

      I also challenge you to submit the same amount of links to each of the competing sites ranked ahead of you now. If your theory holds water you should very easily bump them down the serps. If you do that you'll see I am right on the money with what I'm saying.
      Well in my experience links can bring down a site, or make it dance non-stop for a while, it happened countless times... Luckily it's always temporary, they always get back, but the momentary penalty Google gives you for doing massive sudden linking is very real indeed, as many people on this thread have testified.
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      • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
        Originally Posted by Davide Guarneri View Post

        Well in my experience links can bring down a site, or make it dance non-stop for a while, it happened countless times... Luckily it's always temporary, they always get back, but the momentary penalty Goggle gives you for doing massive sudden linking is very real indeed, as many people on this thread have testified.
        So you agree with the op that you can post links to your competitor sites to knock them off the serps. Right?
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        • Profile picture of the author Davide Guarneri
          Originally Posted by mattlaclear View Post

          So you agree with the op that you can post links to your competitor sites to knock them off the serps. Right?
          Yes, but only if it's not an authority site, and even then, only temporarily.
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    • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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      Originally Posted by mattlaclear View Post

      Otherwise you'd be able to over backlink to your competitors sites to cause them to be "blacklisted" by Google.
      That doesn't make as much logical sense as you and others seem to believe it does. Furthermore, just because YOU don't think it would make sense to do that doesn't mean Google isn't doing it.
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      • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
        Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

        That doesn't make as much logical sense as you and others seem to believe it does. Furthermore, just because YOU don't think it would make sense to do that doesn't mean Google isn't doing it.
        Of course you should know I never take seo advice from anyone here on the forum. I tried that route at first when I started up our seo company. There were too many contradicting theories that made it impossible to follow. So I sat my ass down and learned how to do it. Now I only go with raw empirical data.

        The sandbox just doesn't exist.

        Anyone want to do a test?
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    I dont think by posting many links to a website can bring down the serps esp if the domain is not that new...
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  • Profile picture of the author xnice
    6000 backlinks at once is a lot for a new site. If SERP is only base on number of backlinks, people will use Xrumer and blast 10k links everyday. This will be Xrumer battle .
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Originally Posted by Web Tempest View Post

    I was sitting comfortably at the bottom of page one on google. I wanted to get to the top so ordered a "blast" of 6000 backlinks. Straight away I was thrown back to page 3. I'm hoping it will even out and go back to page 1.

    But could be a warning for others - Google may just like the slow organic stuff.

    Any one else had similar experiences?
    Yeah this is always a problem especially if the links are lower in quality.

    Build more quality links steadily and your website will come right back up.
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  • Profile picture of the author crescendo
    Still am not facing these kind of problem. I always gain Backlink Slowly Slowly. I never use auto submission script etc. etc.....
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    Mix up your anchor text more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rough Outline
    SEO is a patience and effort game. You can successfully do SEO, climb the rankings and still appear natural. You don't need to blast 1000s of links in days to get top spot on Google.
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  • So what's the best way to rank high fast then? Just got my website created but need to get it ranked on page 1. Any advice? Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author LukeK
    Don't worry about blasts sending you back it is normal - google dance. Keep building links or even stop and within 2-3 weeks you should be back stronger than ever.
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  • Profile picture of the author airstair
    Go Slowly and show reality
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  • Profile picture of the author Targeted Traffic
    Incoming links have always looked good in the eyes of Google. As a result, one way to move a site up the search engine rankings was to generate a high number of incoming links all pointing to a given web page.

    As Google places higher and higher value on the quality of the content, this tactic is not as effective, and can even harm a website's ranking if overdone.
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