Google Keyword Tool question

13 years ago

It kind of depends on how your filters are set, but my best suggestion would be to look up the keywords in Google with quotation marks to see exactly how many sites come up for the exact match search.
Also, it's not so much about how many sites there are to compete with as it is which ones are occupying the top spots.
Also, be careful that the words your looking to target are profitable.
Are the people using them looking for something that they're willing to pay for or are they just looking for information.
A good indication is if there are any adsense ads on the SERP.
Hope this helped

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finebird 13 years ago

Also try to google your keyword with inurl:"keyword" and intitle:"keyword". The number of sites gives the indicator of level of competitors who bother to optimize for the keyword
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xiro25

13 years ago

The competition bar is just for adwords and has nothing to do with SEO competition.

I use traffic travis for my seo analysis
I also use backlinkwatch.com to check how many anchor text of the keyword I am targeting and you can check the Page rank of each backlink which is important.

Both of these tools are free and work fine for me.

hope that helps

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Seamc

13 years ago

Originally Posted by xiro25

The competition bar is just for adwords and has nothing to do with SEO competition.

I use traffic travis for my seo analysis
I also use backlinkwatch.com to check how many anchor text of the keyword I am targeting and you can check the Page rank of each backlink which is important.

Both of these tools are free and work fine for me.

hope that helps

Actually i found traffic travis to be pretty useless. It rated a keyword I'm ranking pretty good for as "Hard" and a keyword that you have absolutly no chance "nude women" as "relatively easy". Although I still like it as a general overview of my competitions on site SEO (Just so i don't have to type the search string into google and analyse the pages / PR etc.)

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vivaarturo 13 years ago

the best way to understand how hard it is to rank or beat your competition is to complete a backlink analysis to your competitors sites. While using the keyword in quotes in google can give you an idea of the size of your market and a good strating point it is really the top 10 sites in google that you want to review and see their backlinking strategy

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xiro25

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Seamc

Actually i found traffic travis to be pretty useless. It rated a keyword I'm ranking pretty good for as "Hard" and a keyword that you have absolutly no chance "nude women" as "relatively easy". Although I still like it as a general overview of my competitions on site SEO (Just so i don't have to type the search string into google and analyse the pages / PR etc.)

that is exactly what I use it for. You cant let any program tell you how easy a keyword is to rank for. You have to analysis the pagerank, number of backlinks, quality of backlinks, anchor text, Age, ON page seo of the top 10.

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melodyx

13 years ago

Thanks everyone! I've made notes and will check out the programs that were suggested. I did have a few more questions though...

Originally Posted by Jayce

Also, be careful that the words your looking to target are profitable.
Are the people using them looking for something that they're willing to pay for or are they just looking for information.
A good indication is if there are any adsense ads on the SERP.
Hope this helped

I am a bit unsure how profitable these keywords are. (I'm thinking it might be more people just looking for information.) For one I found that there were two ads to the right in the google search. If I understand what you are saying, this would indicate that the keywords were not as profitable?

Originally Posted by finebird

Also try to google your keyword with inurl:"keyword" and intitle:"keyword". The number of sites gives the indicator of level of competitors who bother to optimize for the keyword

Interesting, I checked one and the competition was even lower. I'll look more into that strategy!

Originally Posted by xiro25

I use traffic travis for my seo analysis
I also use backlinkwatch.com to check how many anchor text of the keyword I am targeting and you can check the Page rank of each backlink which is important.

Both of these tools are free and work fine for me.

hope that helps

Thanks, I'll check them out and see how they work!

Originally Posted by Seamc

the google keyword tool does not give you the competition for how hard it is to rank, but rather the adwords competition -> How many people are paying for links in that category!

Ok, so basically it's just people buying ads for this keyword? That makes sense since it is from Google AdWords.

Originally Posted by xiro25

that is exactly what I use it for. You cant let any program tell you how easy a keyword is to rank for. You have to analysis the pagerank, number of backlinks, quality of backlinks, anchor text, Age, ON page seo of the top 10.

Still learning who to figure all that out. Thanks though!

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Seamc

13 years ago

the google keyword tool does not give you the competition for how hard it is to rank, but rather the adwords competition -> How many people are paying for links in that category!

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markrob008

13 years ago

It came from Google and I think it is more accurate than the others.

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hashbury

13 years ago

You really should go ahead and get the free version of market samauri and then look up some tutorials on how to use it youtube.

This will probably save you a lot of time in the long run.

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John Williamson

13 years ago

That competition bar is just the Adwords competition. For a true competition analysis, I like to just go look at the results on page 1 myself and analyze them by hand - call me old-fashioned, but at least I know it's getting done correctly. If you want to enhance your keyword research abilities, look into Keyword Sniper Pro 2.0 from Jack Duncan.

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melodyx 13 years ago

Thanks for all the help advice. I'll looking into these programs now!
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Giannii01

13 years ago

You will find with google keyword tool that the competition is more so for the adwords competition instead of for seo

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Heavenstorm

13 years ago

if possible I will suggest you to use market samurai seo competition module to check. What you should be concern of are the top 10 websites ranking for your keywords. Nothing else matter. Check to see if their websites are optimized and the number of backlinks they have etc.

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