Can no-follow link give backlink?

15 years ago

Nofollow means the site is going to vouch for the quality of the other site.

Nofollow does not pass google page rank.

Bought link are supposed to be nofollow.

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BarryWheeler

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jimjoseph

Hello guys !
I am little bit of confuse about "what is do follow and no follow?"
and what is dependency of link juice for these? Is it useful or not regarding SEO?:confused:

"NoFollow" links are links that contain the html tag rel=nofollow as part of the link itself. It means the search engines can crawl these links to index content, but these links will not be counted as a vote towards your site's popularity. As it sits right now, it looks as if Google is the only search engine honoring the intent of this tag (well, maybe).

DoFollow links do not contain rel=nofollow as part of the html tag. They are followed by search engines to index content and they will count the links towards ranking your site in the search engines. This means the linking site is TRUSTING your site by providing this type of link and therefore is giving your site a "vote" towards being more popular. These pass their "PageRank" or link juice to your site.

As for SEO, the links that are "DoFollow" will affect ranking in Google, but it appears as if all links are counted by the other search engines.

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Emarketing Excellence

15 years ago

Originally Posted by nadeeshasmith

ya sure nofollow links are also give backlink, but they don't crawl by google

Nofollow backlinks are crawled by Google, but PR is not passed on to them. Hence, of no value in terms of Google.

To the OP, Nofollow gives you a backlink and it is the term only for Google not for Yahoo or Bing. However, Google is the KING of search engines so it really matters to get dofollow backlinks.

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MaverickUK

15 years ago

Just to add, nofollow links are important as part of a backlinking campaign. If your site only has dofollow links, Google will notice this as being suspicious and may well give you a penalty for it - either a penalty or you'll just find it hard to move up the rankings from where you were. In this case, add a few nofollow links to even things out a bit.

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BarryWheeler

15 years ago

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

Just to add, nofollow links are important as part of a backlinking campaign. If your site only has dofollow links, Google will notice this as being suspicious and may well give you a penalty for it - either a penalty or you'll just find it hard to move up the rankings from where you were. In this case, add a few nofollow links to even things out a bit.

What are you talking about?

A penalty for having links that are all "dofollow"? ... oh my.

Where did you come up with this?

Show your proof to back this up please!!!!

I truly think you're out to lunch.

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paulgl

15 years ago

Originally Posted by BarryWheeler

What are you talking about?

A penalty for having links that are all "dofollow"? ... oh my.

Where did you come up with this?

Show your proof to back this up please!!!!

I truly think you're out to lunch.

I've often wondered as well why people would build nofollow links,
except in passing. I have, but few and far between. In fact,
I can't remember the last time I tried for a nofollow link...

Well, that's not true. I tweet a lot and they are all nofollow

But that has nothing to do with any balance or looking natural.

In fact, nofollow links would do just the opposite if people stopped
and thought. If you post nofollow links, that nofollow tag is supposed
to combat spam and mark a link as untrusted. So, logically speaking,
your nofollow link would mean you are spamming, especially if these
are blog comments.

Funny thing, I have high PR pages based solely on internal linking.
No link diversity there, or any such nofollow.

Paul

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BarryWheeler

15 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

I've often wondered as well why people would build nofollow links,
except in passing. I have, but few and far between. In fact,
I can't remember the last time I tried for a nofollow link...

Well, that's not true. I tweet a lot and they are all nofollow

But that has nothing to do with any balance or looking natural.

In fact, nofollow links would do just the opposite if people stopped
and thought. If you post nofollow links, that nofollow tag is supposed
to combat spam and mark a link as untrusted. So, logically speaking,
your nofollow link would mean you are spamming, especially if these
are blog comments.

Funny thing, I have high PR pages based solely on internal linking.
No link diversity there, or any such nofollow.

Paul

Paul,

Thanks for being a refreshing read here on WF. The quality of posts here leave a lot to be desired.

Barry

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rahmanpaidar 15 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

So, logically speaking, your nofollow link would mean you are spamming, especially if these are blog comments.
Paul

Hello Paul, I think this is not the case where spammers seek for
not nofollow blogs. Imagine a commenter who does not know about
seo and also has not heard of what nofollow is. He just comments
regardless of whether it is.
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BenJackson 15 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

So, logically speaking,
your nofollow link would mean you are spamming, especially if these
are blog comments.

Paul

I agree with everything you are saying, but I think this part went too far.

Example:

You have a website and you like to comment on some of your favorite blogs like maybe wired.com or engadget.com. Your Disqus profile links to your site about technology.

This would be spamming? Sounds like very honest link building to me.
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hashbury

15 years ago

Originally Posted by nadeeshasmith

ya sure nofollow links are also give backlink, but they don't crawl by google

You are wrong as was pointed out in the other thread you replyed too.

Originally Posted by Emarketing Excellence

Nofollow backlinks are crawled by Google, but PR is not passed on to them. Hence, of no value in terms of Google.

To the OP, Nofollow gives you a backlink and it is the term only for Google not for Yahoo or Bing. However, Google is the KING of search engines so it really matters to get dofollow backlinks.

Lawrence

Nofollow links do matter to google just on a different level than dofollow. Link diversity is always the key.

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BenJackson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

Just to add, nofollow links are important as part of a backlinking campaign. If your site only has dofollow links, Google will notice this as being suspicious and may well give you a penalty for it - either a penalty or you'll just find it hard to move up the rankings from where you were. In this case, add a few nofollow links to even things out a bit.

Show us one site with only "dofollow" links, it just doesn't happen.

Originally Posted by Emarketing Excellence

Nofollow backlinks are crawled by Google, but PR is not passed on to them. Hence, of no value in terms of Google.

To the OP, Nofollow gives you a backlink and it is the term only for Google not for Yahoo or Bing. However, Google is the KING of search engines so it really matters to get dofollow backlinks.

Lawrence

One thing to add, PR isn't everything. The reason for nofollow links not helping SEO is because they don't pass PR AND they do not pass anchor text. This means no boost in authority or relevance, which means no boost in rankings. Unless of course trust is still passed through nofollow links. I wonder if Google really pays no attention to Wikipedia links...

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paulgl

15 years ago

Originally Posted by BenJackson

Show us one site with only "dofollow" links, it just doesn't happen.

That's friggin' hilarious.

Why would you say it doesn't happen? Quite the contrary, why would it NOT
happen? Someone would have to actually go for a nofollow link...and
why would they? I don't. Are you saying we can't keep people from
sneaking in a nofollow link to our site? Why would they care to sneak
us a nofollow link? Makes no sense.

No wonder people come here and complain about failing. They are
wasting their time getting nofollow links.

I have many pages with high PR, and the only links? Internal. All
non nofollow.

Originally Posted by BenJackson

I agree with everything you are saying, but I think this part went too far.

Example:

You have a website and you like to comment on some of your favorite blogs like maybe wired.com or engadget.com. Your Disqus profile links to your site about technology.

This would be spamming? Sounds like very honest link building to me.

It was a tongue-in-cheek remark about nofollow being natural. There's
nothing natural about a tag made up by google to combat spam. So,
if people think a nofollow is natural, logically speaking, it would make no
sense as nofollow signals spam or untrusted link. But the whole thing
falls apart because the whole scenario of nofollow being natural falls
apart on its own. It gets caught in a catch-22. You can't have it
both ways. Say a nofollow link looks natural, but nofollow link means
spam or untrusted. Those statements are diametrically opposed.

Paul

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Mike Anthony 15 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

That's friggin' hilarious.l

Seriously this section is just getting worse and worse. In the past two weeks I have had people argue with me that

1) a PR N/A links (regardless and in the absence of of any other factor) is just as good as a PR4 link.
2) That the home page of a backlink not the actual PR of the page the backlink is on is all that matters
3) The person with the most backlinks always wins regardless of quality
4) drum roll please

Spending Two THOUSAND DOLLARS a year for N/A links is better than have a network of high authority incontext links.
Someone was even running around in here claiming that you have to have a particular ratio of PR 2 to PR 3 To PR4 links in order to rank

because Cutts told one of their friends that. :rolleyes:

Thing about it is its not even newbies in newbies faces standing by this nonsense. No it newbies arguing with regulars or people selling their "SEO services" up in other peoples faces talking pure nonsense just for sig sales.
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BenJackson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

That's friggin' hilarious.

Hmm maybe I can be the first SEO stand-up...:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by paulgl

Why would you say it doesn't happen? Quite the contrary, why would it NOT
happen? Someone would have to actually go for a nofollow link...and
why would they? I don't.

You don't have to go through some arduous procedure to seek out a nofollow link. It just happens...see above example... Things are not so clear cut when link building.

Originally Posted by paulgl

Are you saying we can't keep people from
sneaking in a nofollow link to our site? Why would they care to sneak
us a nofollow link? Makes no sense.

No wonder people come here and complain about failing. They are
wasting their time getting nofollow links.

I have many pages with high PR, and the only links? Internal. All
non nofollow.

Perhaps I stated my claim to aggressively, but I only meant to reason that link building and establishing a presence online is going to bring you "dofollow" and nofollow links.

And nofollow links a waste of time? I've built plenty of nofollow links on purpose - for traffic. In the end, the whole purpose is targeted traffic anyway. I've never considered targeted traffic, new subscribers, and sales a waste of time.

Originally Posted by paulgl

It was a tongue-in-cheek remark about nofollow being natural. There's
nothing natural about a tag made up by google to combat spam. So,
if people think a nofollow is natural, logically speaking, it would make no
sense as nofollow signals spam or untrusted link. But the whole thing
falls apart because the whole scenario of nofollow being natural falls
apart on its own. It gets caught in a catch-22. You can't have it
both ways. Say a nofollow link looks natural, but nofollow link means
spam or untrusted. Those statements are diametrically opposed.

Paul

I am always very careful to stray from the word "natural" when discussing SEO. I understand, there is absolutely nothing natural about the way millions of people interact and link between billions of web pages and what kind of linking should appear as natural as a means for a search engine to rank sites by. There is nothing natural about nofollow links, SEO, or even the internet for that matter. My point was not that you are supposed to have nofollow backlinks, they just simply show up...naturally..jk

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BarryWheeler

15 years ago

Originally Posted by BenJackson

There is nothing natural about nofollow links, SEO, or even the internet for that matter. My point was not that you are supposed to have nofollow backlinks, they just simply show up...naturally..jk

The whole intent of nofollow was as Paul says, to combat web spam and to prevent people from manipulating rankings via easily obtained links.

What has happened is many people fear the wrath of Google and ended up going through their code, nofollowing many of the links they had given naturally.

Google crawls those links and goes hmmmm - spam???? maybe!!!!

No one seeks out "nofollow" links, who would? There are plenty of links to be had that pass juice without having to go looking very hard.

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Mike Anthony 15 years ago

Originally Posted by BarryWheeler

No one seeks out "nofollow" links, who would? There are plenty of links to be had that pass juice without having to go looking very hard.

Plus given that most people here are into placing their own links on forums, blog comments etc theres no need to do so to "look natural" either. A certain percentage of those backlinks will invariably go nofollow.
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penpal6

15 years ago

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

Just to add, nofollow links are important as part of a backlinking campaign. If your site only has dofollow links, Google will notice this as being suspicious and may well give you a penalty for it - either a penalty or you'll just find it hard to move up the rankings from where you were. In this case, add a few nofollow links to even things out a bit.

Rightly said..........

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gtk29

15 years ago

easy. nofollow and dofollow both are backlinks but of different types

Yahoo does not care about nofollow anymore.

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JSProjects

15 years ago

At the very least having a handful of nofollow links will make your backlinking look more natural. So I don't avoid them. But I usually don't actively search for them either.

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15 years ago

No, that is the reason no follow links were even created. To protect dynamic content from spam. If they passed link juice then their sole reason for existing would be pointless.

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sunia

15 years ago

Do Follow links will not only give you the PR in google's eye but will also be helpful in getting some traffic while No Follow links are only used for getting some traffic and are not counted by google.

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samual james

15 years ago

Nofollow links never count as backlink, through no follow link you can only get traffic.

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Stuart william

15 years ago

backlink is crawled by google but its not pass any link juice to site.

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oclseo

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jimjoseph

Hello guys !
I am little bit of confuse about "what is do follow and no follow?"
and what is dependency of link juice for these? Is it useful or not regarding SEO?:confused:

Nofollow Links don't counts as backlink or vote to your site.

While do follow backlink counts as backlink or vote to your site.

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peexter 15 years ago

Nofollow link do not pass pr juice to link, but it helps to traffic to your site. Dofollow links helps to increase pagerank of your site.
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Tylos

15 years ago

Yes I also see some where, even real= no follow> mentioned links showing as aback link in site explorer? how it's ?

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Aaronhiscock

15 years ago

According to me Nofollow and Dofollow effects in search engine rankings. if you want to improve google ranking u must need to get as many as dofollow backlinks. if you want better rankings in yahoo, bing or msn there is does not matter that your backlins are dofollow or nofollow.

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Steven Miranda

15 years ago

This is a heated debate among SEOs but the fact is Google is NOT telling the whole story regarding do-follow/no-follow. No-follow is so overused it would be bad for Google if they did not look deeper into no-follow links also. No-follow links can pass certain SEO value to a site.

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rafiseo

Banned 15 years ago

**WELL THE FINAL CONCLUSION IS NO ONE REALLY KNOWS THE TRUTH**

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Josh MacDonald 15 years ago

Originally Posted by rafiseo

**WELL THE FINAL CONCLUSION IS NO ONE REALLY KNOW THE TRUTH**

:p

That's pretty immature and just plain wrong. I've done lots of test along with lots of others, and don't think for one second that's a final conclusion.

A no-follow link would be something you would use to add authenticity to your website, and would help gain Google's trust.
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NoBSGuy

15 years ago

Hi there,

just wanted to clarify that not all nofollow links are "useless" when it comes to building link authority and here`s why:

Several popular web 2.0 sites have the nofollow attribute (hubpages for example) and still get google`s love in terms of rankings and backlinks.

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Eric Lancheres

15 years ago

Aye, since there doesn't seem to be a good answer here:

Every link that Google finds goes through an algorithm to determine how "good" the link is.

Think of it this way, each link gets a score from 0 to 100 depending on how good it is. "No follow" is just one of many factors that gets counted when Google finds a link and it impacts the overall score of the link.

So if you have a link on a PR8 page, it's within context and it's "nofollow", it will still be valuable. I'm making up numbers, but it might score "80/100" in terms of link juice.

If you have a link on a PR0 page, buried among hundreds of other links but it's "follow", then it will still count as a link, but be less valuable. A link like that might have a score of "5/100" in terms of link juice.

NOTE: The entire link score is arbitrary in order to illustrate my point of how 'nofollow' and 'follow' affect a link.

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BarryWheeler

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Eric Lancheres

Aye, since there doesn't seem to be a good answer here:

Every link that Google finds goes through an algorithm to determine how "good" the link is.

Think of it this way, each link gets a score from 0 to 100 depending on how good it is. "No follow" is just one of many factors that gets counted when Google finds a link and it impacts the overall score of the link.

So if you have a link on a PR8 page, it's within context and it's "nofollow", it will still be valuable. I'm making up numbers, but it might score "80/100" in terms of link juice.

If you have a link on a PR0 page, buried among hundreds of other links but it's "follow", then it will still count as a link, but be less valuable. A link like that might have a score of "5/100" in terms of link juice.

NOTE: The entire link score is arbitrary in order to illustrate my point of how 'nofollow' and 'follow' affect a link.

Something's never cease to amaze me.

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simonbuzz

Banned 15 years ago

In simple words the thing no-follow is not true..because I have tested and saw that no-follow are also passing link juice...so there is no reason to worry about it, a backlink is a backlink...

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DPM70

15 years ago

Did anybody stop to wonder why link building philosophy continually sways between the yes do-follow and no do-follow camps? Right here. Religiously. Nobody knows the answer. But many people make a living from it.

For what it's worth, ANY site that is making MONEY will have a mix of "do" and "no follow" backlinks pointing at it. As will any site that is making NO money.

Don't bother wasting your time. This is literally a waste of time.

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15 years ago

Nofollow, although not as powerful as dofollow backlinks, are still beneficial for your site.

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