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Myself and 2 colleagues are looking into the possibilty of building our own private network blog for backlinking purposes. We currently use services like FreeTGen and 1Waylinks but long term plan is to build our own network.

Initial plan of action is to purchase aged domains through godaddy and host them using multi c class ip hosting such as cclassiphosting.com.

It's a long term plan with significant upfront/monthly costs but we feel long term, it will proove to be a good investment.

We'll be starting with 30 domains (at least 10 will be aged) and build from there.

Does anyone have any good\bad experiences in setting up their own network and/or any solid advice they can offer pls?
#search engine optimization #blog #network #private
  • I typed a really long response but after re reading your post, it seems like you are going to have this for your personal use..

    Instead of multi c class hosting from 1 provider, why not have cheap share hosting or free hosting from different providers..
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    • Yes, personal use.

      Shared hosting will have same IP address for each account, we need multi c for ip diversity. In practice, we'd be building using different providers, not all with the same one.

      Want to steer away from free hosting, that leaves us vunerable. It will cost us time and money to build these sites and free hosting is a risk.
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    Matt LaClear of the WF does this and has a very lucrative business from it. I'm one of his happy customers.
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    • Got a link? I'm looking for something like this from a legit source.

      Thanks!
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    • I tried to be a customer, but he was a jerk to me when I PMed him. Heck, he didn't even click the thanks button on your post.
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  • I am having great success with one particular version of it...there are a handful of ways and flavors...

    Just FYI...private networks are to natural links what list building is to organic SEO...in engineering terms...

    article directory marketing = 1
    article marketing via guest blog posting = x
    private networking = x^n
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  • Mr Dack , I want to wish good luck with it. Because if you succeed you make a loooot of money !
  • For certain you should go forward with your plan to set up your own network. We started with 200 .info sites over a year ago and have never looked back. Right now we are close to the 4000 blog mark. I have plans of growing that to over 10k by the end of the year.

    But even starting with under 50 sites you should see significant juice generated from your efforts.
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    • Cheers Matt.

      We've used your services several times and the effect on our ranks is undisputable.
    • Wow that's truly amazing. I might start the same as you did, it's kindof inspiring to hear something like that. Good luck with the 10.000 blogs though!
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  • I have used many services many of these contextual services that offer private high PR networks and they work great for ranking/serp movement.

    I'm actually going to be getting involved in my own as well, already have about 40 domains from PR6-PR3, though I plan to probably spend about 30-50k to get it completely setup. Then remember the monthly costs and maintenance should be roughly 3-5k a month to keep it up.

    If you were to turn this into a business selling a service, it can be very profitable as well. Friends of mine are pulling in 20-30k a month just from having a couple smaller private high PR networks!

    Key is getting your hands on a few PR7's and staying away from anything PR3 or lower.

    Wish you the best of luck!
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    • 30-50k!, wow, that's a hell of an investment. But that's what I like about this approach, you can start of small and scale up as the profits increase.

      Cheers and good luck to you also Dripable.
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    • We only use pr0 and pr1 .info blogs and we generate over $75k a month. We pay less than $2 a piece to register them at GD.
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  • A few quick tips that you may or may not have thought of.

    1. Create groups (clusters) of blogs and assign your outsourcers (if you use them) to manage those clusters (maintenance, monitoring and growth)
    2. Get a developer to create an XMLRPC poster to handle distribution of content. There are good tools that can do this for you. (WP Direct is a good one, ManageWP etc)
    3. Create automated syndication for each blog so all posts get backlink love (RSS Directories, Blog Directories, Ping.FM, PixelPipe, etc)
    4. Grab all the sitemaps and feed the links to sites like backlinkindexer.com or Linklicious.me for indexing power

    Heck I could go on for ever but those may help you squeeze some power out of everything.

    All the best

    Sean
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    • 1) Never thought of this - good pointer, thanks.
      2) We've several ideas on this one, but I'll check out the tools you mentioned - cheers.
      3) Yes, currently trialing BogzBot to install base sites with the usual syndication plugins.
      4) Currently testing NuclearLinkindexer, if this doesn't stack up then we'll be switching to backlinkindexer.com.

      Cheers Sean, very much appreciate your ideas.

      Paul
    • Your gonna give all of the secrets away man!!! LOL...
  • Do you create this for your own / company use or for commercial use? (selling blog post)

    If it's for internal use have you think about the ROI? Because I can imagine the complexity and cost of maintaining a large network of sites.
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    • We haven't actually kicked off yet, we're currently costing up and devising a strategy. In the short term, for use on our own sites but if things go well then eventually we may run it as a service (limited).

      For private useage, the boost in rankings on our money sites should (hopefully) justify the ROI but yes, you're right, this has to be closely monitored.

      By starting off small, < 50 sites, we can perfect and fine tune our system and procesess for mantenance and monitoring before upscaling.
  • If your networks gets to any decent size XMLRPC is not a viable solution if your posting a lot of content. Its OK for smaller networks with minimal traffic and content posting, but if you plan to grow your network your going to run into hosting problems unless your on a dedicated box.
  • Great thread guys. What do you use to feed content into your sites - assuming WordPress?
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    • Anyone willing to share some ideas on how to feed 200 WP blogs the right way?
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  • Question for Matt...

    Most of my stuff is pretty highly targeted, so getting ranked for a 4th or 5th keyword on the list won't mean as much to me. Therefore:

    Do you have a service for those of us that need to target a "specific" term or keyword phrase?

    Thanks.
  • Back to the subject (we are well off it, and all this has been done before): how does having a blog network compare with the poor man's option of setting up a lot of Web 2.0-type properties and leveraging them for backlinks? This is certainly something I do, to pretty good effect, but of course the problem of posting to 50 completely different blog platforms (manually) and the obvious risk of not having ownership of them sort of precludes ramping this up big-time. I wonder how it compares in SEO terms with having, say, 50 low-PR .info sites, hosted on different servers etc. Any thoughts?
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    • Banned
      I chose Matt's service because #1 all the testimonials and #2 because it IS a private blog network.

      I don't want to spam the Internet with my links. I want my links placed where no one will be offended by them.
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    • True enough regarding this thread going off topic.

      If you use Article Marketing Robot you can easily post to all 50 of the different blogs on your network very quickly and efficiently.

      AMR = under $100
      50 .info domains = under $100
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    • As you say It works but the downside is you can't really expand that past a certain point plus theres the downside of the properties not being yours. You could build them up to great strength and they could be deleted tomorrow. Frankly i wouldn't be bothered with the Infos . NEtfirms for example has had a special for like 4.95 with the coupon and they throw privacy in for free. I'll take a .com .net. org over a info any day not because infos are bad for SEo but because as a property com , .net and .org are seen as more established ever I ever needed to sell a site or build it into its own presence.
  • This might be off-topic but I have better experience in doing SEO than building something for it.
  • I think private blog networks are one of the best ways to go for SEO purposes. Where are you supposed to get most of the content from? Autoblogging?

    I say this because I'd like to create an automated solution. I have blog networks, but they're all updated manually.
  • This is a very interesting thread. Thanks for the information guys.

    I am planning to build my own 'small' private network for personal purpose as well, and reading some of the response up above, it seems quite expensive to begin with (both time and money). While I dont mind spending time, but i have limited budget.

    For instance, If I am planning to start with 10 blogs,

    10 x $2 (.info) = $20 (first year), then after that its $5 per year (according to another user above?)

    Multiple-Class-C IP : I assume I will be needing 10 unique IPs in this case. Does that mean getting 10-hosting packages? (Or a dedicated server with 10 IPs?)
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    • For 50 domains you would need 5-10 separate c class ip's. Which would fall under the cheapest hosting plans of every seo host you check out.

      You do not need to reregister a domain once it expires. Just clone it and add it to a new .info domain. Works like a charm.
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  • Yeah, I don't think one need get TOO paranoid about multiple IPs. You can start with a cheap package like the 5 IP one here: Shared SEO Hosting ? Shared IP Hosting (not aff. link). Still, it IS an investment, but easily recouped, one would think.
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    • The problem we had with them was the fact our sites kept going down regularly. They take a bit to rectify issues too. But they are one of the cheapest seo hosts around though.
    • Yes i did that too! and its now 3 years over and we have total 3k site in our network including my client's site as i sell website for leaving.

      But you need to keep in mind that you need separate hosting and separate domain account. Cos if google track you then google start deindxing site.

      I can say that cos that happen me to ... so i follow it by my own idea and now its over....

      Best of luck
      KAZi
  • This could be a good thread, and I know some of us were really interested in this subject... but NOW it turned out to a nonsense.

    I am out.
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    • Fernando you are getting too emotional. The point of dispute between Matt and I is EXTREMELY important to building a network. It is NOT off topic. Its one of the first strategy questions you have to ask yourself.

      Do you buy a pack of .Info and utilize NA links etc or do you go the way the OP is going by getting websites with authority.

      That is a critical choice you need to make in building a network. I chose the Ops strategy and it allows me to go after any serp not just relatively weak competition. Now of course you have to really build it out to go after the strongest of the strong but generally speaking some high authority links even if you decide to go with Infos also is going to do you nothing but good. It is not an SEO myth that authority links help you rank. Things you will need to do is learn how to acquire aged domains with authority and existing links. Lots of ins and outs so you don;t get ripped off.

      But with the N/A zero approach what is there more to learn? Buy the Info domains set them up with the ability to let AMR post to them and you are off to the races. Only question that takes anything to figure out is hosting since the majority of SEO host stink. Some of them go down days at a time.

      So bottom line is if all you are interested in is setting up new .info domains then this thread doesn't have much further to go. Its extremely easy and not much more to it but if you want to build some stronger networks down the line (as the OP started this thread out with) then theres more to learn but not if you buy that all you need is a weak network for everything and thats my point and why its an important issue when deciding how you want your network built.
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  • bmemmott welcome to WF. Look foward to the day when over half your posts are not Matt related and in SEO a manual review isn't something you do its what Google does to you. besides that carry on regardless
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    • who mentioned a manual review? Or are you trying to trash me now?

      At this point is seems like over half of YOUR posts are Matt related.

      I am very happy with Matts service, should I not let other people know that? For a couple hundred bucks he is doing what I got quoted between $4,000 and $10,000 a month for by the big guys.
  • Sorry for all the questions, but how does a 'private network' works exactly (in diagram).

    Suppose I have 3 sites (A,B,C), do they interconnect with one another? or do they point to the next site respectively (A->B->C) or they all point to the money site directly?

    Thanks in advance.
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    • Bllimey opened up a hornets' nest here and only slightly related to my original post.

      Back on topic, well I've started registering my domains, some new, some aged and I'm currently looking at c class hosting. I've a few ideas for filling these sites with content, AMR is amongst them.

      As for high\low PR domains as a requirement, well, I guess like everything else in IM, don't take the word of anyone as gospel, take advise onboard and go try for yourself - and that's just what I'm gonna do.

      Thanks for the input folks, sorry to see people getting so riled, personally, I haven't the spare time to get the hump with anyone
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    • For the most part you avoid linking them together and send them straight at your money site (unless you want to strengthen a page that is linking to your home page)

      Don't overlook web hosts with multiple datacenters. Site5 for example has over ten. Two added benefits are that you can use some of them to help rank in regional search engine centers and if one goes down they don't all go down together. Depending on some SEO hosts its pretty close in price.
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    • I make myself available to anyone wanting more information on how to put a successful blog network together. Just ask them right here on the thread.
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  • I am thinking of buying some high PR expired domains (PR3+) for my new private network project. What do you guys think? Is it worth it? Or should I build it up myself?
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    • Last year we purchased over $5000 worth of aged domains via auctions at Godaddy. All of which had verified pr's of 3 - 5. We set them up on the network and were hugely disappointed with the juice they generated. So even with having a budget of over $50k a month every month to play with we still register only .info's.

      If high pr blogs were more beneficial we'd still have them in the mix.
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    • Buying is faster but still takes some work. I'm too impatient to build them up myself.

      You just want to make sure you are not getting screwed. Use something like RankChecker.com to make sure the PR is not faked.

      Also check it at Whois Lookup & Domain Availability Search | DomainTools to make sure the domain never got dropped.

      Lastly, analyze the backlinks. It may have had great backlinks that have since disappeared. Make sure they still exist or you might buy a PR 3 that goes to a PR 0 on the next update. Also, I prefer to stay away from sites that look like they are holding a decent PR just because of one really good link. I've seen PR 4's that have some crappy PR 0 and n/a links and one PR 6 backlink. If that PR 6 link disappears, you probably now have a PR 2 or less on your hands.
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    • Seofarmer, and everyone else

      Go to google and type in some keywords of what you think off hand would be very lucrative keywords to rank for. tell me how often you see a site ranking number one with ONLY links with zero or N/A PR (grab a free copy of SEo Spyglass. you can check it with that) links

      Don't let anyone hoodwink you. Look for yourself at tens of serps and ask yourself why these terms have PR links ranking them.

      Here I use this one all the time. Its the number one term used to sell PRo and NA links a few years back.

      backlinks - Google Search

      Check it out and see who is blowing smoke. My goodness even angela has PRed links.

      Proof is in the serps. In the serps people can't misrepresent, misspeak or hide the factors that cause ranking. You can see everything in the serps. If somebody cannot show you in the search engines then take it with a grain of salt.

      If you have the wherewithal get some authority links and don't make anyone tell you otherwise. You can mix those in with whatever else you want to use.
  • Thanks Matt for being back in the thread. This is the best thread I am seen here till now.
    I was afraid you left this thread.

    What keep of amount of blogs would be sufficient for a private blog network ?
    50 or 100 ? or more ..

    thanks
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    • We started out with 200 sites on our network. But if you went the AMR route you should have no problem generating decent juice with just 50 sites.
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  • And how are you fulling the blog with info. Are all blogs different or do you post the same post on them ?
  • Mike you're fighting a battle not worth fighting bud. Let them learn the hard way.
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    • My company did learn the hard way, that's why we now only use .infos.
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  • Do you fill the blogs with spun articles ?

    thanks
  • If you can get some pointers from folks who are doing this, using aged forums would be a great step in the right direction
  • Excellent thread! (Except the BS part)
    @ matt - im looking to setup a small network of blogs, say around 250 blogs. I'll be purchasing 50 C-class IPs, so that will be 5 blogs on each IP. Does that make sense to you? And which C-class IP hosting do you recommend?

    -- Domains will be a mixture of .com .net and .org
    -- I'm building it from scratch so I don't care about age or PR.
    -- Unique Wordpress Themes, Who Is Privacy Enabled and Unique Who Is Data
    -- Content will be all unique.
    -- I'll be building backlinks to these blogs as well, to create a strong base setup.
    -- It will be for my personal sites, im not looking to sell links on this network.

    Sounds good? You have any suggestions for improvements?
  • Question again:

    According to LaCLear's strategy as to using huge quantity of PR0/NA blogs,
    how is that different from creating a bunch of blogs on free blogging platform? (since they will be PR0/PRNA anyways? - and have them point directly to money site?
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    • It really isn't much different. You might as well pay $67/month for Magic Submitter or $127/month for SEnuke and just blast a bunch of Web 2.0's. It would be cheaper.
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    • Sounds like a very strong strategy. The only problem I see with your plan is why you want to use unique content instead of spun plr. You're going to all the trouble and expense to setting up a network but by using unique content your linking system is going to be extremely slow and costly. If you outsource your article writing through seogenerals.com you can get 400 word articles for around $5 a piece. Which would equate to an extra $5 per backlink you submit.

      You would be better served to take all that content and post them on squidoo and hubpages type of properties. You're not going to come close to creating a blog with pr like those sites. So posting unique content on a blog for the purpose of backlinking makes no sense to me.

      As far as the ratio of 5:1 you are proposing regarding sites to ip addresses that is fairly aggressive number. We get away with 10:1.
      There are only so many free blogging platforms. Therefore a limited number of ip's to post your links on. But if you start posting spun articles on a multitude of free blog platforms you won't see any success whatsoever. Those platforms have fail safes to keep folks like us from destroying their communities. So those types of blogs get deleted very rapidly. A deleted blog equates to deleted links. The key to making it big in seo is establishing permanent links in which you can build upon.
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  • Yeah you actually nailed the best strategy that I'm implementing right now. I almost invest my money on my authority sites. Just follow what oranges posted above! You just have reveal a good strategy
  • Is this an example of a 'private blog network'? (well, this is probably 1 out of 1000 sites on that network)

    www. youkai. info/

    Domain age seems to be from 2002 tho.
    PR3

    So this owner is going with the high PR approach? (as opposed to PR0 and quantity?)
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    • It certainly looks like one.

      IMO, the high PR approach is the only way to go if you want to get #1 rankings, which are infinitely more valuable than page 1 rankings.
    • Looks like a BuldMyRank type of blog, as they usually have those short 150-250 words posts. Just an assumption though, could be wrong too!
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  • After reading this thread, I see that making a 'private network' is really the way to go. Much better than those linkwheel / linkpyramid strategies that are proposed, but on the other hand, they seem to be more popular? Is there a reason why? or is it the fact that many arent aware of how effective private networks are?
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    • It is because private networks are more expensive (domain registration, whois privacy, hosting). Typical Web 2.0 linkwheels are free or close to it.
    • 1. Money investment risk
      2. Efforts & time required to manage a network to avoid getting busted by G!
      3. Lack of action.
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  • Thanks for the clarification, Oranges. Appreciated.

    I was also referring to what Mike said above, as he quoted

    "I personally, just have everything on the homepage of my sites. I want the link to come from the page with the PR, not a PR 0 post page."

    So he either has his WP blog configured so that all articles show on page 1 (with nothing pushed back), or his blog has very limited articles?
  • Believe me Matt, your input is more than appreciated. You keep your mind on the thread and the reader can make there own mind what works for them.
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    I'd really like to see a case-study on this.
  • I'm not going to point out anyone in this thread, but I will say that quality > quantity when it comes to SEO.
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    • Stop attacking the .info PR N/a networks and what were you taking a bow for? One of those serps you now dominate without any authority links or with some? Inquiring minds want to know (even if they already know the answer).
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    • Again our experience has shown otherwise.
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  • Sigh, if only I can show Matt's work for one of my sites. It is a two words keyword in a competitive MARKET, not niche, and my site is at number #3. :rolleyes:
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    • Nope, not saying that at all. What I am saying is that it is much more affordable and practical to use .info and pr 0's. You just can't stack the links on a pr5 site that you can a pr0 one. We have some sites that receive million articles a month. Quality just cannot keep up with quantity.

      They wouldn't believe you anyways. But you and I know the truth.
  • I guess I misunderstood you, then. If you're serious about some sites getting 1MM articles per month, then that's not really benefiting your or the client. Surely G won't find or index 33,000 posts per day.

    You using AMR for all this? You should go the custom route like I did, if you are. Much easier and much less setup. It's also nice to have a report of URLs for posts that haven't yet been posted.
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    • which correlates with why people routinely say of that kind of network that the backlink checkers don't pick up the links. Google is not going to endlessly keep crawling through a morass of N/a links and low quality content on a PR n/a site.

      There will probably be some other fanciful explanation but the most likely one why you can't find the links like you would on any other wordpress setup is because google isn't routinely crawling through to find all of them. its hit and miss which is why some people get results and coo and others like on Backlinks forum claim it got them zip.

      33.000 links minimum a day on a PR N/a .info domain. Sheesh. can't think of a worse way to build a network. Good thing many serps are really weak in the IM niche.
    • So now my system does not help my clients? Despite the fact one of them just posted an unsolicited testimonial. There is no talking to you guys. Unbelievable really.
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  • inb4 mattlaclear blocks everybody that disagree with him. :p

    mattlaclear's method is the best because he says so..

    ..in his WSO!
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    • Not really. I only block the ones that want to debate me and build a name for themselves doing so. It is something that doesn't pay very well because it is never ending. Wave after wave of erroneous statements gets a bit tiring after a more than a second. So in order to be of benefit to anyone wanting to ask me about our experience with blog networks I am blocking them out from my view.

      But the ones I blocked I have been having run ins on the forums for months now. I realized only today that the ignore feature was a viable way to make my time here on the forum more productive and way more enjoyable.

      Pretty cool feature really.
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  • War of BS.
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    • This is absolutely . I love how the 3 Mikes and Matt recommend building a private network. I can see where each of you is coming from and I can see you all are very well versed in SEO.

      I would probably have to go with Matt's approach due to the fact that it seems more economical and easier to build, from what I have read here so far. I would love to see if the High PR route can be built for about the same price and be as easy to manage. I have used Matt's service and he did get me to the 1st page for 3 tough keywords. I took it a step further and added high PR back links and it took them all to #1. I can see that High PR works also.

      I believe that you can either go high PR or PR0 and be successful. I want to thank all of you for sharing this knowledge with the rest of us. I just love all the gold nuggets of info each one of you is dropping and I can see by the view count a lot of other warriors are watching. I think some of them are like me, taking notes because you guys always spit real knowledge this forum.

      I would hope that at the end of the day we all would be able to chill and have a beer and be cool. Thanks again and keep it coming.
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  • ok, been enjoying this thread. Im very new to this concept , so dumb question coming up: If say i install 20 new WP blogs with new domain names on , say, my hostgator account with the sole purpose of using the blogs to build backlinks to my money sites , is this a waste of time because they have the same IP address? Is there any benefit at all or will google and co. realise what happening? Whats the lowest cost way of getting different IP adresses?
    Thanks

    Marty
  • When posting articles to these blog networks, do you spin the content or not. Surly you don't post the same article to multiple blogs, do you?
  • I watch my costs like a hawk and I have spent over $1000 on Matt's services. I think that says something for his services.

    Great Info Matt I am soaking it up.

    Did you ever interlink any of the sites on your network? Reason I ask is that we are big in one particular (offine) niche. Have quite a number of sites over a few cities. I would love to pass that juice around but fear that the big G may not take to it to well.

    Thoughts?
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    • Want a thread where everyone agrees with one poster and dissent/legitimate critique is not allowed and called for as in a discussion then go to his WSO thread and be happy. This is the SEO section and if you paid attention to the details of the disagreement you would learn far more than wanting everyone to sing Kumbaya with one poster. Mike Grant made some great points and they have been confirmed by THOUSANDS of people who do real SEO and with real world tests not just running SEO WSOs. The dissent in this thread has led to A LOT more information that you would never get with just everyone agreeing with one person and yet you only complain when people disagree with that one poster.

      Hey mark,
      I use mostly Html and wordpress. I throw in others for diversity and yes it works. If you think about it when you get into real competition where someone is making good money and you out rank them think their SEO isn't going to look at your links? And what do you think they will do when they see sites that scream bought links like a .info network with ton load of spun content and massive links? Take the financial loss? So thats why I go with good content not because its hard to post to anything. Heres a quick tip -get a good macro program set up vmware or a vps and you can automate posting to ANY content system. Its extremely easy.

      How much someone pays for a service says nothing.and frankly $1,000 is on the lowend for SEO services So if thats a point then the tens of thousands of SEOs that disagree with Matt would have a greater point because most of their clients have dropped far more than that per month.
  • Mike A, with using all those CMS platforms you must basically be posting content manually, right? And mostly unique content I would guess? Can't see how else it would work, but I guess it would be worth it for high-end SEO as its your leverage that really matters.
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  • Thank you very much Mike Grant and Mike Anthony. It is very useful information.

    I think many people, myself included, don't really pay enough care and attention in how to set these things up.

    Google is much smarter these days. I'm guessing that in the old days before it was abused, it was easy to create loads of links all from the same limited number of IP addresses.

    Now a more carefully planned out strategy is required.

    It seems the three biggest problems are:

    1) Paying all the costs involved in setting up the domains on as many different IP's as possible, buying privacy protection and hosting the sites.

    2) Problem two is satisfactorily adding content to these sites that is unique enough and that google thinks merits getting indexed.

    3) Problem 3 is maintaining and managing the network and being vigilant against incorrect linking and inadvertently leaving a footprint.


    Sure there are many more problems etc, but these are the main ones I see in front of me right now.

    I can see why so many people don't go down the route of setting up their own network and just rely on web 2.0 sites etc...

    Matt LaClear, if you are reading this, I would really like your input on the 9 questions I raised earlier. I would be very grateful. I posted them at number 173 of this same thread (here).

    Many thanks,

    Sam
  • Does anyone know how to auto post content into Drupal sites?

    I use drupal quite a lot, but have only ever posted content into wordpress blogs using Article Marketing Robot.

    Can AMR post into drupal sites, or does anyone know another way to post quickly into drupal sites?

    Thanks,

    Sam
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    • Just looking around, I believe Magic Submitter can be used to submit to your own Drupal, Joomla, Wordpress and other platforms (but it's a monthly subscription - grumble grumble...).
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  • If I have a blog with 3 pages, all PR2, should I include a link pointing at my money site on each page, or do i only need to include on 1 of the 3 pages? (since they are from the same domain and IP)?

    How does Google looks at this?
    Thanks in advance.
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    • If you are only promoting one site, then yes I would put a link on each page to that site.

      It's not really any different than when article submitting was a big deal. People would throw 10 different articles at EZineArticles, all linking to the same page.

      You want to have domain and IP diversity, but it not unusual for a site to link to another site in three different places.

      You might want to use different anchor text on each page, but that is up to you.
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  • @Mile, Thanks for the prompt response.
    Just wondering, you said you have a bunch of html blogs/sites, how do you update them? I dont think AMR is compatible with them right? (or is there a better method?)

    Secondly, whats the best way to distribute articles or SPUN articles equally? I dont suppose you post each article to 1 blog, but multiple blogs (spun variations)?

    Thanks again
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    • Like Mike suggested Dreamweaver is a good way, but may not be in everyone's budget initially. I think it was $499 when I picked it up. I have no idea what it sells for now.

      When I first started, I just used plain old Notepad and Filezilla. It's a little more time consuming, but unless you are promoting a hundred sites it doesn't take that much time. Again, if you are going the high PR route, you don't need thousands of sites to get the same results. For most keywords I see the majority of IM'ers and affiliate marketers going after, 10-20 PR 4 sites will get them top rankings. For much more competitive markets, obviously you need more.

      Oh and to save some time, I just spent a day downloading as many free HTML templates as I could find. I have bought a couple of packs too along the way. I don't really care all that much about the site looking perfect. I just don't want to hand code all these sites from scratch.

      As far as the article distribution, it is up to you. I just make sure the same content is not on identical sites as much as possible. If I have 10 articles on one site, I do not put the same 10 articles on another site. Unless you have a very large network, there is going to be some overlap. I just don't want the same outgoing backlinks and same anchor text on each site. I have my sites divided into clusters to help organize this.
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  • Does anyone have a how-to guide condensed into a PDF document as I'd like try this out for myself... It looks like a very profitable business model.

    James
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    • James,

      I did a quick search of Google to see what was available and found this how to set up a blog network - Google Search

      I have not checked out any of them yet, but it looks promising. I am interested in this too.
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    • Whats aspect? Are you talking about setting up .info sites, getting aged domains populating content?
  • Yup someone should make a wso on this from a-z. I know I would pay quite a bit for it!
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  • We will continue building out our little network of blogs, but I think we need to spend a bit more time clarifying our strategy in more detail.

    This thread does give quite a lot of valuable information which is very useful.

    I still need to overcome my own reservations which are slowing me down from fully going for it in a big way. I guess we will start smallish and see how it goes.

    I still have these nagging questions:

    1) How many pages of content should each blog/site have?

    2) Should we continually post fresh content to the site? (Say every few days or so.)

    3) Is it really worth building out your own network of sites in terms of the cost and time involved?

    This may sound like a daft question, but is there enough benefit compared to just building out hundred or even thousands of mini web 2.0 sites?

    4) What's the difference between posting articles on your own little network and getting a link back, versus just mass submitting articles using AMR and getting links back that way?

    Can you clarify some of the pros? Cons seem to be mainly time & money.

    5) If none of these blogs/sites in your own network link to each other, (just to some money sites), how do you generated juice for each blog in the network?

    6) Some of my sites already have many thousands of links to them, would 50 to 100 extra links from my own blog network make enough difference for it to be worthwhile setting up the blog network?



    Basically, I am trying to get enough confidence up to justify spending so much money, time and effort on creating our own blog network. I have partners that I would prefer to be fully on board with this idea. I know there are no certainties, but just seeking a few likely positives if all goes well.

    Can the experts assist even further?

    Thanks,

    Sam
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    • At the level of a hundred or so like some people are going to do based on horrible advice? Nada You would be better of submitting to article, blogs , press release sites etc. Remember not even Matt's system works with a hundred or two .infos for the results it gets (not top three most of the time) so I think you are beginning to see the real issue

      and I think by the questions you are asking its becoming clearer to you that the .info na just flat out won't work at all for small network. You are better off picking up some High PR links . You will see immediate effects from those in your serps, they will allow you to ofset costs and you can leverage them to exchange links.

      I like the questions you are asking , You are thinking for yourself not following guru worship. Thats fine for other facets of IM in SEO its best to think for yourself and weigh all the issues.

      Trust your instincts. You are right the N/A approach is nonsense for building out a small network for yourself and despite the rah rah from people who don't know a thing about SEO it is the LEAST flexible. You can't rent space on a small network of N/As to offset your costs. no one will care to link exchanges with you and each individual domain is weak and can only be effective (and only in weak serps) if you are prepared to go into it the hundreds if not thousands of domains.

      Best advice acquire a few authority domains and see the results and move forward with that.
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    • I think I can answer this one - because those sites in the AMR directory are totally burned out, Google probably recognises them as link farms as many many sites have the same set of sites in their backlink profile, or there could be some factor related to Panda. Either way, your own little network is going to be a lot more exclusive than all those heavily spammed article directories (though they still have their place).

      Anyway, awesome thread, I am learning a lot, thanks people for sharing (it's not like we will be competing with you guys any time soon )
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  • I just want to step in here and thank Matt for all of the advice and tips that he's given.

    He's been doing it for months, in bits and pieces, but for him to take the time to answer questions regarding how his bread and butter is set up and allowing folks to learn from it is simply amazing.

    Even with all of the opposition that he's had in this thread alone, he's still willing to share his experience and, that, folks, is invaluable.

    Take what he's sharing with you as a guide. You may not like some of what he does or how he does it, but this whole model is open to diversification and you can modify it to suit your needs and the needs of your customers.

    Just get started trying it out. I'm sure you'll be glad that you did.

    Thanks, Matt!
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    • I have to agree, he has taken a lot of crap here, right or wrong and has been very helpful. Regardless if you agree with his methods. That is really what this place is suppose to be about.
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    • and with that I'd like to thank the other two Mikes particularly Mike grant recently. You took a lot of abuse and garbage in this thread from people who really don't know SEO just for letting people know what is well established in the industry and has been tested and verified in multiple tests with observable not hidden data. You made valuable inputs that one side has consistently tried to characterize as not useful and you did it with no pointing at your services.

      Thats truly remarkable because the temptation sometime is just to let things go and go on your merry way but you have been involved not only in this thread but are regulars in the SEO section that consistently share your expertise without pointing to your service. Pms I have received along with many posts in this thread indicate that been appreciated.

      Its extremely important in SEo that we go off hard data and open test results not the kind of rah rah people use in JVs and such. SEO is a different beast. So thanks for helping to bring that.
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  • Also what to thanks everybody who shared info in this thread . I think this on of the most valueable thread of this year. Daily reading this thread. I gave my new insides and information to think about . Thanks and please keep going !!
  • Points taken - my feeling about article directories is partially subjective - this issue for me essentially boils down to the question of "is AMR still effective for ranking?". Remember when AMR appeared, the results were sometimes literally startling - huge boosts, at least initially. This effect appears not to be so pronounced any more, at least from my experiments, so what is your take, then, on the reasons behind that? Somehow these links seem to have been devalued, but I can't quite put my finger on why or how.

    Interesting, those two articles on (relatively low-quality) article sites - they have been heavily backlinked, one of them by Angela Edwards, the other seemingly by a bunch of those "domain info"-type sites. Certainly backlinking my AMR articles is an important part of my strategy these days, and that seems to vindicate it...
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    • Very true. It isn't like it used to be and yes I do think Google has it in for certain article directories. Thing is though theres no universal footprint for an article directory. There are all kinds of platforms. So if Google does target them it has to look for content patterns - sites with lots of links, whatever Google chooses to identify bad content with, multiple subjects etc.

      and when you think about it for awhile you realize that would also tend to target blog networks with multiple links and spun content!

      Only Google could give you the exact reason but quantity of links as you suggested, algo tweaks that identified the spamminess of the site (how many good sites really cover jock itch, how to get any woman you want , make 50,000 in a week and then link out to a high ratio of one page sales ads?)


      of course any weak page needs to have some life injected in it. thats why you build a PR network. Why build a network you have to backlink just to get it indexed?
  • @oranges or someone who can help me related on this post


    actually I'm doing this process and I have 50 auth sites! And 20 money site.. So can you help me with my one question?



    And all the post june 24 -2011 to old post is a copy paste from other articles (but tried to change some words coz its only 5-8 sentences) and actually I don't want to do it now. Some improved the rankings of my money site and some delisted.

    So here's my question should I delete all the old post that I copy? Or should remain it and start now creating unique post? I'm just worried if I deleted it will surely have a bad effect to the money sites and to this auth site?
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    • Not a problem! Keep them as they are at the moment and pile on with fresh content. Deleted pages will show 404 not found pages, or can be 301 redirected. I won't worry too much about the old posts or pages. If you're too much worried or concerned about them, then get them re-written, or else leave them and move on with new posts.
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    • Hey jayweb,

      Take down the domain when you can. you are exposing a good chunk of your network to anyone who crosschecks that site with others and uses a backlink checker across a few of them. Ask orange to remove it from his quote too (better safe than sorry).

      P.S. To anyone who wanted to contact me. I have a major project that will probably keep me away for a couple days. MY PM is almost full so if you get a bounce then you can try again in a few days when I have time to clean it out. thanks
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  • Are the articles spun before being distrobuted? I'm sure that AMR could handle that nicely. Question is, is it really necessary?

    Also, I've heard of people using a small number of .info sites (about 30) on ONE IP and still getting decent results.
  • I'd like to thank MrDack for creating this thread because that really got me started and im already up with 30 blogs network and still counting on to reach 250 solid blogs with unique content, IP diversity and solid backlinks by the end of this year.

    Special thanks to Matt and Mike Anthony for sharing their knowledge and experience with us.
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    • Thanks orange. Lost in my first post I made was that any page link will help with diversity and link popularity. I and others objected to the claim that you should only use .info N/As and forget about authority links entirely as if they don't work :rolleyes:.

      Mixing is fine and great so your approach to buildup sites with links will eventually payoff as you build authority with backlinking you are doing. The only thing I would recommend is that you find a way to monetize your network either through the serps it gives your money site or if you have some PR in them renting the space here and there to cover costs.

      Starting over again every year just to avoid renewal fees is a totally losing proposition. Unless all your network exists for is to provide cheap services. you end up skipping all permanent backlinking techniques every year and losing out equity for yourself and whatever sites you service.

      Where? the angela page and the squido page both have backlinks with PR



      Backlinks: What they are and how to get them - Advertising

      Backlinks - Get the Highest Quality Backlinks Here!


      run em through spyglass


      I see PR 1s,2s,3s in the profile of their backlinks. Not a single one has just .info N/a backlinks
  • @ Mike Anthony - I was never interested in having a network of .info or PR 0/NA sites. I believe in quality over quantity when it comes to feeding your sites with links to gain rankings. Its Matt's businesses model and may be it works for him and his users. However, everybody hv their rights to put their opinions and stand for what works for them, so no issues with that.

    Thanks again for your inputs and help, Much appreciated!
  • That's pretty much all the time I have to share regarding the topic. I look forward to competing with the quality blog network owners in the marketplace. Sooner or later we may have some competition from one of them.

    Rock on Warriors.
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    • Cheers Matt, thanks again for your time, much appreciated by all.
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    • How about instead of being so passive-aggressive with your underhanded comments, you use your network to go head-to-head with mine?

      I'd love to destroy your comments about how a PR N/A link is as powerful as a high PR link, just for the fun of it.
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  • What are people doing for content creation?

    I know that Matt is spinning but what about you other guys, are you using unique content or just spinning articles and throwing them out to your network'

    Does the content have to be related to the domain?

    Thanks for all the contributions, despite all the back and forth I think there is some great info in this thread of those looking at starting their own network....
  • You know, there is much talk of Matt's services only getting to the bottom of page 1. I've used his services often for more competitive, higher volume terms and the final rankings tend to go all over the place. I've had as many Top 5 rankings as I have 6-10. In my opinion, using that argument is quite weak.

    Also, anyone who uses Matt's services for low volume keywords is wasting their money. I try to use his services only for 10k or higher exact match searches, though some niche's require 5k or higher. The point is, you get what you pay for. I'll take a 6-7th position on a 22,200 exact match keyword, especially since it would have taken me much longer and more cash to rank them using my normal SEO tactics.

    I also think that Google will eventually render networks like Matt's ineffective, because I do think they care - but they are also behind the eight ball. Eventually....Google will figure it out. However, we live in the here and now and as much as some of you may hate how Matt has built his network....IT WORKS.

    The constant back and forth about it is so beyond pointless its mind numbing. Save it for when Google figures out how to destroy low quality networks, then you can rail about how "you told everyone so". Any idiot with a brain for SEO knows that there is risk involved, but clients only care about results - and if it works now, that is truly all that matters.

    I prefer high quality content and links, but I also need quick results sometimes. Quality does beat quantity - over a long expensive time period. I think I'm done rambling on...It is what it is.
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    • And what reason might that be? We did it because it made our backlinking look much more natural instead of backlinking to a single keyword on all our blasts.

      Thanks for yet another smart ass remark. It seems those are the only type you seem to make.

      I cannot help it if you know nothing about LSI keywords. Besides we let our clients choose all 5 keywords. You're telling me there isn't 5 tough keywords for every niche?

      Me as well. Too many Warriors throw stink on what we do because they cannot duplicate the results we do.

      Google will never stop us. They'll cancel out the juice from profile links first. Xrumer still creates huge amounts of juice via profile links. Look how long profile links have been rolling out.

      If Google quits recognizing spun articles we'll start sending out unique content. The way we'll do it will be simple though. We'll have one of our staff members write a 400 word unique article on one of our sites. When it gets indexed we'll then mass submit that same article to every site on our network. Including wpmu's as well as every article directory we can get our hands on.

      If they stop accepting duplicate content then we'll be looking strong with our spun content system. If both duplicate content and spun articles go out we'll switch over to using very well spun articles instead of autospinning everything.

      If they quit accepting Wordpress links we'll switch all our blogs over to different article directory platforms.

      If they deindexed our blogs we'll have 5000 new ones up with new hosts, domains and c class IP's within 5 days.

      We're not a bunch of dumb hicks who only have one way of sending out links. We tried over 175 different methods and ended up with the system we have now mainly because it worked and was the easiest to scale.

      Thanks for sounding in about our service by the way. Most of the arguments against our service are from people who literally have no idea how we can make our service work month after month after month.
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    • Well at least you admit it in the end SO I am going to put it to you gently.

      What do you know about building a network? If you had built one it would not cost you more to rank or take more time (takes the same time to place links whether its an N/A or a PR5 page) and you as a onemanSEO would not be using a second person's network if you had your own. Fair?

      Then what makes you think that Matt's way of building a network is better to the many regular SEOs here who have and who rank their terms in positions 1-3 (or does 1-3 not "WORK" for you?) Because they don't offer a $99 special to place in the first page with mostly no traffic to speak of positions and only guaranteed for what? 30 days?

      Sorry but what You and Matt try to sell here is that if we have a different business model that does not offer WSos and get testimonials here that we dont know SEO and what works. That you can claim who is better by business model only?

      Baaaaalooney.

      Here educate yourselves.

      SEO Software. Simplified. | SEOmoz

      click around here too

      Search Engine Roundtable ::: The Pulse Of The Search Marketing Community

      Search Engine Marketing (SEM), Paid Search Advertising (PPC) & Search Engine Optimization (SEO) - Search Engine Watch (#SEW)

      Stop being hypnotized by WSO hype and read up on the countless top notched SEOs that do not offer anything in the WSO section and learn before you rant to people about what works and what doesn't or against those who have actually offered something on the subject of this thread.

      Finally stop fibbing on us. No one claimed you couldn't get top rankings. we said it depended on the serp and competition but at the end of the day what you can't change is that first page is all Matt promises and only for a limited time and only if you choose five different terms so he has five shots at getting one on the first page (LSI nonsense not withstanding).

      Want to pretend its another kind of offer then fine - Tell matt to guarantee 1-3 . He won't because he can't............. and stay in business for long. Now excuse me as I go back to work since I HAVE to deliver top three (and most of the time top two) to my customers regardless of their competition. Matt might do better than you but that does not mean he does better than all of us.
  • So I am going to try this again. I asked this question earlier in the thread but never got an answer.

    When you post to your private network, do you spin the articles, or do you write an original article for each blog.

    The time it would take to write an original article for each blog, makes me think that you must spin them. I can't imagine posting the same article to each blog.

    Please advise. I know Matt is not going to answer as he doesn't like me, but if someone else can chime in I would be very grateful.
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    • If you apologize now I will not hold your last comment against you. I already answered your question on #228 of this thread. It seems I was the only one to answer you. Yet I'm the one you said wouldn't answer you. And you wonder why you and I do not get along?
    • This has been answered at least twice.
  • Well Matt, I do apologize. I must have missed your response. I appreciate you letting me know.

    I didn't expect to get an answer from you due to the interaction we had in your WSO. Hopefully that is over now and forgotten. I didn't mean to piss you off.

    Thank you.
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    • I took you off my ignore list months ago. Our interactions were personal in nature and had nothing to do with my services. So we're cool.
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  • Initially this started off as a great thread but it's quickly turning into a pissing contest. The sad thing about it is that those doing the pissing are the ones we can learn the most off....

    Surely there is more than one way to skin a cat when it comes to SEO and just because a method works for you without question does not mean that anybody else that isn't doing the same as you is wrong.....

    I've followed Matts WSO for a long time and have been very tempted to jump on in simply because of the amount of testimonials he has, it's not just a couple of testimonials it's a whole damn lot so I believe he is doing something right and he is walking the walk....

    I know the two Mikes also have their own networks and also know what they are talking about SEO and network wise.

    You guys who are arguing are the ones I want to learn off so I can start building my own personal network for my sites. I personally would love if instead of giving each other uppercuts you could just provide some solid information on how you go about building your networks, hell I'd even pay for that kind of information if it means I can avoid making mistakes.

    I know Matt has pretty much said how he sets up his network but how about the rest of you guys?.......let's get the thread back on topic before it gets locked!
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    • Terry I'm sorry I can't take you seriously. At this point you are going to pretend like Matt is the only one that has talked about how they build their network.

      sheesh
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  • There is SEOHosting.com (Hostgator company) that I began using to set my my own blog network. They provide you with C Class IP addresses at a very attractive price.

    I started there and gave up - started to use Matt Laclear's service instead.

    Good luck.
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  • Exactly how important is private registration for these blog networks?

    If I have domains that currently are not private, could these work to get started?
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    • Don't waste your time.
    • Best thing to do is try it for yourself. But if you get all your domains at once from Godaddy they will waive the fee for private registration for each domain. So it's free for the first year at least.
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    • How about transfering these domains another registrar, then adding privacy, or simply adding privacy at this point?

      These domains have not been used to date.

      Thank you
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  • I have to say, I have found this thread very educational. Even the too-ing and fro-ing has thrown out some valuable data.

    I have a couple of domains that I'd love you to run the competition with :-)

    I just haven't gotten around to developing those domains.

    I could offer one of you the dot net, the other the dot org for example.

    It would be a two word domain that gets about 10,000 exact searches a month.

    I would give $1000 for the one that got in the top three and stayed in say the top 6 for 2 months.

    Just thinking out loud so to speak....

    I may even strongly consider this if anyone was interested.

    Sam
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    • They turned down the challenge.
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  • MrDack,

    I gave up reading after page 3 or 4 but if you ar elooking ot grab aged domains to create your own network then I recommend using a service such as domainface.com to search for the domains. You want to look on services other than GoDaddy if you want to find the real quality ones. Learn how the auctions work on Snapnames and Namejet as there are bargains to be had. Godaddy is best for PR3 and lower but everything else is usually cheaper on Namejet and Snapnames.

    You will need to find a way to streamline the 'due dilligence'. Find a tool to do the backlink analysis in bulk. You want to make sure the backlinks are still live and also still a high pr. If a site being sold loses its high PR backlinks then the domain will drop PR eventually. Scrapebox is a very good tool for bulk PR and backlink checker...use it and Excel macros to find only the best domains.

    Be preapred for some of your purchases to become duds - but keep them in your network and keep working them back to their form glory.

    I do run a budget service and they give my clients great results. There is no reason it won't do the same for you.
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    • I can vouch for Fraggler's service. I've used it. Great service. Great price. Love it.
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  • There are tons of free blog pages with high PR.

    If you want to build your own high pr blog network you can start building blogs on these different pages. This will make it easier to build page rank as the blogs on these pages often are interlinked.

    Make sure you invest your time into building quality content on all these sites, build links to these and make connections (followers). You also need to do your due dilligence to make sure the blog pages do not quit after a few years.

    Maybe 50 % aged domains that you own, and 50 % on blogs on different websites (blogger, posterous etc.)
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    • It is disappointing such a great thread is being wasted pissing on each other.
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  • Let me clear up some false assumptions here.

    A higher PR is always preferable but it's much more time and cost consuming to build this type of network. If you can get similar results with less effort and at a more cost effective price point then we do that. We then pass that savings on to our clients who are in the vast majority of cases, extremely happy.

    Our clients get the results they want to keywords they want and at a price point they like.
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    • Yeah, what he said.

      The reason everyone is so heated is because all our systems work very well for us. SEO isn't brain surgery. It's about getting links from other sites connecting to your site.

      So let's quit strutting around like we're a bunch of rocket scientists.
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  • Okay, so now that we all agree that a high PR network is much more effective for getting #1 rankings in competitive SERPs, and the PR 0 .info model is efficient for offering "page one rankings" to the masses in low competition SERPs, while making the most profit for yourself... on to other things.

    Troy mentioned Snapnames, and I do use them. Anyone have any other methods for finding high PR domains? I tried Register Compass in the past, but found it kind of slow and buggy. Maybe it has improved since then.

    Any other good products or methods being used to acquire high PR domains rather than build them?
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    • I guess I don't agree with this characterization. I know the keywords we rank for and that other Mike has no idea. Just because he saw a few that were low comp doesn't mean that he has the complete picture.
  • Mike, the issue that you have no idea about which you talk is our overall clients keyword level of competitiveness. What you saw may or may not have been our sites OR what you saw was such a low sample of our clients keywords that it is statistically irrelevant. Do you have any idea how many keywords we work with? Do you have more than anecdotal evidence? Both of these questions are answered, no. This is why your assessment is nothing more than talking out of your rear end.

    You also have no idea what keywords we succussfully bring to the first page. These are just facts and you are making broad generalizations in an effort, I'm not sure really. I'd like you to support your bald assertions, that's it until you do you nobody should take your charges seriously.
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    • Marc thinking that other people do what is common to you in psychology is known as projection and nothing shows that tendency than saying you would only buy PR n/As one day because of testing and two days later claiming the completely opposite . Like it or not I have seen your network . It hardly matters that you can't figure out how linking to the same sites from multiple domains makes it easy to see huge swaths of such networks. Want a lesson on how to use a backlink checker? I can post one to help you out.

      We all know that Warriors has a high concentration of people who do MFAs, affiliate pages and a lot (no not all) long tail stuff. Its no secret, so a high degree of customers here are some weak stuff but you want to pretend like you and your .info got no authority PR net is better than everyone else because you charge $99 and cater to a generally less demanding crowd. My lowest paying client pays $1,000 a month (and only because of special circumstances). Want to claim that you could sell your services for that kind of cash ( I mean up front price not the old bait and switch) and get as many customers here. go ahead. You'll show you know about as much about understanding a low pay market as you've proven you know about SEO. Oh and yo tell Matt I'll teach him about LSI too if he needs it. You don't need five keywords to do LSI like he implied. More bunk.

      So sorry. I can back up anything I say in the serps? Can you? No. Otherwise you would nave done so by now. You don't want to show a truly top competitive term ranking number one with only .info N/As because you CAN'T - PERIOD it will turn out to be nowhere near as competitive as you claim and you know it.

      NO real seo cares what you take seriously. Not now especially. You were caught red handed with your own quotes from Matt misleading people that you had tested and proven that PR networks were so weak in your testing you would only buy .info N/as.

      tell me again where you are talking from now?
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  • Oh and one other thing. Quit with the fake calculations and the fake bravado numbers if you cant keep your story straight. One post it would take you till the end of the year to build out from 3,000 - 10,000 next minute you are claiming that you can setup 5,000 new ones in five days. I mean you obviously have a few clients that will believe any garbage you tell them but think of the kids. I mean what are they going to think when they see two grown ups (I'm assuming) that can't add or keep their numbers straight?

    thats the beauty of your system. A whole lot of .info zeros are easy to see and differentiate which by the way is why you wouldn't last a day doing SEO for established companies. You'd get your network reported in no time.


    Wasn't asking you to. never have. You could (but of course we know you can't) show a truly competitive serp ranking with N/A and zero links that isn't your own. links I saw were out there to be seen. You are on the net . links are not confidential laddie. I really do need to give you that backlink checker class.

    don't even try to breath accusations about dishonesty in a thread where you put out totally bogus tests . made totally bogus statements and then did a back pedal to High PR domains you were putting down all thread long because you figured on reflection there was a buck in it for you. I could make all kinds of charges of dishonesty on that. You don't hold any moral authority given the facts .
  • Maintaining a highest quality blog network is really important especially now... and its a hack lot difficult work to do..
  • This has degenerated into a whole lot of nastiness and no new useful info. Y'all're worse than the copywriting crowd.

    Say good night, Gracie.
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