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High ranking mfa sites

by dvhantiques
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I had 5 micro niche sites made with 1000-3000 exact searches, emd. Three of them rank pretty high on the first page of google, pos 2, 3, and 4. The sites in pos 3 has gotten about 20 clicks this month. However, the sites in pos 2 and 4 haven't gotten any clicks. I thought that once the sites gained a good position, they would capture organic traffic, thus resulting in some clicks.

When I asked the person who created the sites, he said wait for the backlinks to take effect. Well these sites gained a good position before I had any backlinking done, so I'm not sure what he means by that statement. I had a web 2.0 link pyramid done and 700 article submissions done just so the sites would have some backlinks but as I said the three sites were ranking well before I had the backlinking done.

I'm just curious as to why the other 2 sites aren't getting any clicks. Even though they are in a good position, does it take some sites longer to get clicks? Do backlinks have anything to do with clicks? I always thought as I said before, once the sites ranked well the organic traffic and clicks would naturally come.

Just would like your thoughts and some clarification so I understand this better.

Thanks,
Deb
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  • Profile picture of the author Doug Pretorius
    I would much rather have those 700 articles on my site pulling in traffic from a couple thousand long tails, then it doesn't really matter what your rank is for any particular keyword.

    If you really are ranked 2, 3 and 4 and you're not getting traffic then either no one is searching for that term, or the snippet on google doesn't make people want to visit.
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    • Profile picture of the author dvhantiques
      Originally Posted by 33centsaday View Post

      I would much rather have those 700 articles on my site pulling in traffic from a couple thousand long tails, then it doesn't really matter what your rank is for any particular keyword.

      If you really are ranked 2, 3 and 4 and you're not getting traffic then either no one is searching for that term, or the snippet on google doesn't make people want to visit.
      The 700 article submission was a spun article. But I'm glad you mentioned long tail keywords. Since I will probably be adding more articles it sounds like it would be a good idea to add long tails. How do I learn about that?

      Thanks,
      Deb
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      • Profile picture of the author Doug Pretorius
        Originally Posted by dvhantiques View Post

        The 700 article submission was a spun article. But I'm glad you mentioned long tail keywords. Since I will probably be adding more articles it sounds like it would be a good idea to add long tails. How do I learn about that?
        You could do a search to learn more about targeting long tail keywords.
        But here's the way I approach it:

        Let's say you have a site about "armani suits", you can create pages targeting just about anything that includes that phrase. i.e. "knock-off armani suits", "genuine armani suits" etc. Your long tails can also be geo-specific like: "armani suits new york"

        I prefer targeting 'selling' keywords over 'info' keywords. A selling keyword would be something like: "buy cheap armani suits". While an info keyword would be something like: "101 things you can do with an armani suit besides wearing it".

        You can create pages targeting info keywords that point to pages with selling keywords though. That's helped me get my selling pages ranked really well for highly competitive keywords.

        If you've read my blog you'll know I'm a big believer in focusing on content and putting that content on your own site not on others (eg. article directories).
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  • Profile picture of the author 36burrows
    All website and niches will produce a different CTR, it's just the way it is.

    The reason is that you're attracting completely different people to each site.

    Some people will click on ads whenever they see them because either they're shopping for something and want to see each specific product, or aren't aware that they're clicking on ads and think it's part of the website.

    Some people know what ads are, and have become blind to them and ignore them.

    Some people have ad blockers and never even see your ads.

    This is why researching hot niches which are proving to be profitable with adsense is key to knowing which audiences are ad clickers.
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  • Profile picture of the author dvhantiques
    Thanks. You've been very helpful. I will research finding longtails and read your blog.
    Deb
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    One thing you can improve on is the content too..once you get the keywords...try to focus more on the content if you wish to rank higher on the search engine...
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    Some tips:

    1. Make sure the keyword phrase has EXACT match searches of over 1,000-3,000.
    2. Check with Scroogle Scraper to make sure you're not just seeing yourself ranked because you're logged into Google, your location, etc.
    3. Are the title and the meta descriptiong compelling? How do they compare to those around your site? Consider changing to entice people to click from the SERP to your site.
    4. Is there confusion with the keyword? For example...is it not only a particular garden tool, but also the name of a popular band? This can skew the search data and show higher searches for a term that's not really searched...
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    • Profile picture of the author dvhantiques
      Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

      Some tips:

      1. Make sure the keyword phrase has EXACT match searches of over 1,000-3,000.
      2. Check with Scroogle Scraper to make sure you're not just seeing yourself ranked because you're logged into Google, your location, etc.
      3. Are the title and the meta descriptiong compelling? How do they compare to those around your site? Consider changing to entice people to click from the SERP to your site.
      4. Is there confusion with the keyword? For example...is it not only a particular garden tool, but also the name of a popular band? This can skew the search data and show higher searches for a term that's not really searched...
      Yes, the sites are ranked in pos2 and pos4. I think it's because the exact searches are low for the keyword, one is 1000 and the other is 1300. But yet, this site was build by a warrior offering the services. I would've thought he'd know that maybe those searches were too low.

      Eventually, I may add long tails once I learn how to find them. Once I find them, do you add them as your anchor text when backlinking so you can rank for that keyword?

      Thanks,
      Deb
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  • Profile picture of the author Latsyrc
    I have a mom blog and do keyword research to write posts. Most of the keywords I aim for in my posts have a 1000 EXACT searches or more (not saying I'm getting those searches because not all of my posts rank on first page).
    Building ONE website around 1000 a month search phrase is low. You need to find more keywords. Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author dvhantiques
    Thanks.
    Deb
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  • Profile picture of the author dvhantiques
    Yes, next time I will make sure the search is at least 3000. I'm new at this, so I didn't know any better. I'm surprised the seller on wf sells them that low. Well, lesson learned.
    Thanks,
    Deb
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    Focusing on the longtails can definitely help to get you more traffic. We regularly target the 1-1.5K exact match searches and do fine. I'll add to what my partner added above:

    1. Some niches just have a poor CTR - We've had well-ranking sites in the entertainment industry and informational/artsy sites that were well ranked, got the traffic, but had a miserably low CTR. You can try to adjust ad placement, add longtails, etc. but in this scenario we've found it just best to move on, actually.

    2. Non-compelling title and description - How does your title/description compare to those around you on the SERP? Any reason it's poorly worded or boring, so that some would skip over your site and go to the next one down? You can test this by seeing if you're getting traffic, but just no clicks. If your CTR is fairly high, this is a likely reason...either that, or the keyword just doesn't get the searches the GKT said it would.

    3. Cyclical - Is your site an evergreen site or would people be more likely to click during certain times of the year than others. For example, heaters might not be doing too well right now, but will pick up in a few months. Search tools will show an average for the year, not each particular month. Also keep in mind that summer months tend to have less search volume overall, as people are more interested in fun in the sun.
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    • Profile picture of the author dvhantiques
      Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

      Focusing on the longtails can definitely help to get you more traffic. We regularly target the 1-1.5K exact match searches and do fine. I'll add to what my partner added above:

      1. Some niches just have a poor CTR - We've had well-ranking sites in the entertainment industry and informational/artsy sites that were well ranked, got the traffic, but had a miserably low CTR. You can try to adjust ad placement, add longtails, etc. but in this scenario we've found it just best to move on, actually.

      2. Non-compelling title and description - How does your title/description compare to those around you on the SERP? Any reason it's poorly worded or boring, so that some would skip over your site and go to the next one down? You can test this by seeing if you're getting traffic, but just no clicks. If your CTR is fairly high, this is a likely reason...either that, or the keyword just doesn't get the searches the GKT said it would.

      3. Cyclical - Is your site an evergreen site or would people be more likely to click during certain times of the year than others. For example, heaters might not be doing too well right now, but will pick up in a few months. Search tools will show an average for the year, not each particular month. Also keep in mind that summer months tend to have less search volume overall, as people are more interested in fun in the sun.
      Hi Joe,
      On #2. What shows up on the search is the url and the first sentence of the homepage article. Do you mean I should change that "snippet" that shows up. There's no title that appears.
      Thanks,
      Deb
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  • Profile picture of the author dvhantiques
    I think in order to change the title and description I've got to go into the settings on wordpress and change the info on the seo all in one pack title and description. Is that correct? Once I do that, are those the changes that will show up in the google search?
    Sorry to ask stupid questions, but I'm new at this.
    Thanks,
    Deb
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    Yes, changing the info in the AllInOne pack title and description will change the title and description for the site. Make sure to include keywords in the description but ALSO make it enticing for a reader to click from the SERP to your website.

    With AllInOne, you can create a title/description for EVERY page/post you put on the site and should apply to each page.
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  • Profile picture of the author webdesigndevelopment
    Backlinks doesn't have any impact on clicks. It effects ranking only. It is just a matter of different CTR. Probably you might have good attractive title and description for Pos. 3 site which attract the visitors to click. That why you have got 20 visitors. Try to edit your title and description of other 3 sites. Create interesting and subject related title and description and then see what happens.
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    I'm sure the ads that appear in your site is not relevant. check the ads with this

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    Find non relevant ads and remove them in your adsense admin in competitive ad filter.

    Hope it helps

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  • Profile picture of the author dvhantiques
    Thanks to everyone for your help. I really appreciate it.
    Deb
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