Still worth it to purchase Market Samurai

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I've seen a lot of negative feedback over the past few months about MS.

Right now I use nothing but Google Keyword Tool + SEO Quake, and it's just taking too long to analyze the top 10. I used MS for the 12 day trial and it was a lot faster, and I didn't really see the problems everyone else was having, but I'm so new I probably wouldn't recognize a problem.

So, my question is, is MS still top dawg as far as bang for your buck? Or should I invest in something else or are other free tools now available?

I read a lot of good things about SECockpit, but man $77/mo is way out of my league.

Thanks guys!
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  • hey @onepace,

    I use the same tools as you and it only takes me a few minutes to analyze the top 10 (actually, I only ever look at the top 3 and maybe a few others if they're affiliates as well).

    What's your procedure for checking the competition? Maybe I can help you speed things up a bit. :-)

    Vic
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    • vtotheyouknow -

      I can't tell you how much I appreciate the offer. I'm just getting started and every little bit of info helps.

      Here's my Keyword Research procedure:

      1. I've been more into informational keywords, as I don't quite understand how to find good product keywords (everyone I search is taken it seems). So, I typically type random keywords into Google Keyword Tool (exact match, local) about things I know about, because I'm doing all the writing, no money to outsource.

      2. I usually search the first page of the results until I find a few keywords I want to analyze further. My criteria is upward trends, or solid trends, > 750 searches, and CPC >$1, though I don't pay a whole lot of attention to CPC. Oh, and I make sure the adword comp is above 50%, so I know I'll have some relevant ads.

      3. Here's where I struggle. When I bought my first domain, I did so by typing the keywords in the trial version of market samurai. I did an SEO comp and filtered by DA, BLP, PR,Keyword Relevance. I'd look for at least a few PR 0-2, at least a few with < 30 BLP, and then I'd make sure they weren't really old domains. If I saw all "N" for no in keyword relevance I'd get super happy.

      Once MS ran out of free trial I installed SEO Quake, so I'd type the keyword into Google, turn quake on and look at the same criteria with quake. PRoblem was sometimes Quake wouldn't work and I'd get an "error" instead of numbers by PR, Y! Links, etc. So, now I don't know what to do to analyze competition, mainly been looking at on page SEO and making sure htere aren't a lot of authority sites in top 10, though I like to focus top 5.

      4. I'd check for domain availability next. From what everyone says, I'd look for EMD .com, .net, .org only. If it wasn't available I'd start all over.

      That's really about it.

      I've bought a few domains so far, but I'm not very pleased with my decisions, esepcially without a tool like MS.

      Thoughts?
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  • Before buying MS you can really try the software. I had decided to purchase it but then it was too slow for me in pulling the results.Besides you come across lots of important factors when you do keyword research manually... like position of authority sites in first 1p places etc.
  • This could help you in your decision to purchase.. There are a lot more benefits to MS besides analyzing SEO competition (Which i feel it is the best for)

    Noble Samurai - Dojo
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    • An alternative might be to use the free version of Traffic Travis to get a quick snapshot of the competition. Then use SEO SpyGlass to look more deeply at the backlink profile of the top 3.

      I was a big advocate of Market Samurai. It has become too slow and unreliable in my opinion. It has probably been a month since I last opened it.
  • Traffic travis free version stops giving backlinks for weeks at a time, its giving backlinks now?
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    • @ Patrich

      Thanks for the response, quick question if you got a minute.

      How does my keyword research method look?

      I think I'm going to look into LTP, that's the one Spencer made right?
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  • There are many product for keyword research so u can it...
  • I have dropped MS from my arsenal, unfortunately. There are plenty of free tools that will do most of what it does, and a lot faster.

    The Google KW tool is MUCH faster than MS and provides the important information anyway. And the free version of Traffic Travis has a top 10 analysis tool.
  • Banned
    MS are not working as it used to be..so I will not suggest buying it there are other good tools you can purchase.
  • To look up keywords? google adwords tool is faster

    to look up top 10 competition on google? show me a faster tool that is free? SEOQuake does not work, is not compatible with firefox 5.01
    you have to download an old version of firefox

    SeoQuake does not show onpage SEO for the top 10 (Kw in title, url, header, desc) you must do that by hand,

    SEO top 10 on MS? is NOT SLOW
    kws searching is slow, yes

    top 10 competition , especially if you uncheck backlinks domain, IC, and about 3 others you dont need

    (all you need is domain age, PR, backlinks to page (BP) and then the onpage SEO factors

    that takes me a maximum of 30 seconds for each kw

    And No I dont waste time spitting out kw analysis with the google CPC garbage, thats what takes forever

    just use it to analyze google top 10
  • I haven't yet used any software to analyze the market competition and create strategy for the website. I have gone through some of the point discussed about market samurai. That's great as domain age, backlink and all these stuff matters the most when you are to select any particular keyword for ranking.
  • When analyzing top 10, go to google and google market samurai SEO analysis, it shows you how MS does it

    Free programs that can do this?>
    Only SEOquake
    however that only pulls up backlinks, PR, domain age etc

    SEO quake does not pull up Onpage SEO analysis, which is EXTREMELY important
    ?

    You want to open each top 10 site in google, look at the VIEW SOURCE and see if the description has the kws in it? the url? the title? the header?
    How long is that going to take you for 10 sites? a long time

    I can do this with MS for one kw , get the top 10 spread so I can view it AT A GLANCE
    in about 30 seconds, (for one kw)
    I see all the top 10 sites at a glance, the onpage SEO,
    Y Y Y Y, or N N Y N , whatever for each of the top 10 sites

    this takes 30 seconds
    IMO to do this myself? by hand? for one kw? for FREE
    would take 20 minutes, since SEOquake does NOT do this

    You guys who still think you can do all this for free
    be my guest,
    you must not be analyzing many kws
    because if you were
    you would never waste that much time trying to do it by hand

    some tools are worth it
    MS is worth is just for the Onpage SEO analysis

    and btw SEO analysis by Market samurai , it takes a max of 30 seconds
    ,
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    • I hope Market Samurai is paying you to be their personal Warrior Forum evangelist! :p

      By the time that lumbering hulk of software loads (and updates) you could already be done analyzing the top 3 listings with FREE tools, which are the only competitors that matter anyhow.

      It's usually not even necessary to check for h1, h2, h3 tags. If you see that the first 3 listings are missing the keyword in the title or URL or description and aren't a top level domain, you're money.

      Market Samurai's going the way of the samurai my friend. >_<

      Now if SECockpit would only get about 80% cheaper...
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  • It is not practical to use MS if you can use some free tools anyway. Google Keyword Tool is good to use.
  • If you guys are so cheap you want to use only free tools, great but if you dont want to invest any money into your business, you are handicapping yourself

    do you try to write all your content yourself, ? you try to get free domains? at some point you have to start spending money
  • Outwest... I agree with you Market Samurai still has uses for SEO and Back-link finding. It would really be nice if they got the Keyword Research Tool working. I have stopped using this part of MS and it is either unreliable or too slow.
  • thing i dont like about the kw tool is
    it pulls up basically a broad search then you can refine that down i guess, or maybe i dont use the settings correctly
  • Look into Keyword Sniper Pro 2.0
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    • I second this. Keyword Sniper Pro 2.0 is well worth it.
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  • wow this is an old thread
  • To be honest... I paid for market samurai, but now I rarely use it at all.
  • I still use it a lot I just with the PR and anchor text analyzer still worked, but since YSE took a dump, it stopped working
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    Still worth it to purchase Market Samurai

    I've seen a lot of negative feedback over the past few months about MS. Right now I use nothing but Google Keyword Tool + SEO Quake, and it's just taking too long to analyze the top 10. I used MS for the 12 day trial and it was a lot faster, and I didn't really see the problems everyone else was having, but I'm so new I probably wouldn't recognize a problem.