Google starts de-indexing many blog networks!

I'm just about to finish a trial with BMR. Do you think it's worth signing up, or has its moment passed?

Which networks are you seeing get deindexed GeorgR? I have seen one private network go down, but not any others.

Ho hum...we have just as many page one rankings coming in as we always have. We have seen no evidence whatsoever in our own business backing up the assertions being made by OP.

Yo george you need to give us a bit more than that

A few links might help but yes as constructed many blog networks are destined to be deindexed at some point especially with spun gibberish content and multiple links and content on the same page. Blog network owners know how easy it is to happen so they try and hide their networks but when you are renting or selling out space in mass to whoever gives you a few dollars its pretty easy to find and then trace a network.

this is one (of many reasons) you really don't see blog networks of that kind playing a bit part in many really competitive serps. They are constructed in ways that make them easy to spot and if they ever do help a site rank and knock another really great money making site out of first place the competitors can report it and deep six a good block of the network.

Absolute bull as far as I'm concerned.

It takes more proof than "It's all over certain forums"

You think that the blog-network which charges $100 per month or more will openly announce when half its blogs get deindexed? Especially since no-one knows what blogs are actually in such a network.

I don't have all the wisdom at this point, but according to SOME people "on forums" Google already "nuked" 3 such high PR blog networks this month.

PRELIMINARY FINDINGS, this is from reading around as well as talking to someone who operates such a blog network:

1) on-site factors MIGHT play a role (as i said above, there are indications).....
2) posting frequency + wild variety of subjects on such blogs
3) KNOWN IPs of so called "SEO HOSTERS" <---

So called "private blog networks" naturally might be in highest danger especially if they use hosts where google knows and tracks their IP.

Don't call what i say "BS", i am just repeating what i read.

Testing other networks i am in might not be too easy, it would require to keep track/record all the trackbacks and then make a list what blogs are in the network, collect a number of them (like 100s) and then test them in scrapebox whether the blogs are still indexed.

It is LIKELY that natural blog-networks (all with diverse IPs) are better off..which would include networks like ALN, articleranks, seolv, BMR (i think?)....but if Google goes after the suspicious on-site factors then also such networks would not be safe!

One is a thread on BHW and i am sure i am not allowed to link to other webmaster forums, especially not some where they talk about BH stuff

The thread is about someone having to shut his service since his network was deindexed, with one person replying "its already the 3rd network THIS MONTH". There is not much more information. It's very recent.

The other information is from direct talks with someone who operates a network and my own testing of blogs IN THIS PARTICULAR network. Needless to say i am unable to name the network - however i know that the owner is working on fixing this problem.

I think this is the key line right here - shoddy sites are getting deindexed. This is nothing new really, is it?

I'm still waiting for someone to name even just one of these blog networks and besides, these networks that are getting taken out of Google's index are probably crappy spun garbage that shouts put to Google "hey I'm a load of crap, I'm not relevant to your search engine, please remove me".

I'm glad this is happening, it sorts the noobs from the professionals in the blog network world.

Yes of course there are ways to find out..its SCARILY easy.

I already pointed out the above on-site criteria which are suspicious, then of course things like "seo hosting" IPs, same nameservers etc...this is all obvious.

But besides those things that....yes there are ways to directly find out which blogs are in networks.

The fact that a number of people reporting THIS MONTH that some networks got deindexed leads me to believe that they (Google) are actively going against those networks.

Mike to be honest i think you think Google is much more clever than it actually is. Yes, it's smart and its algorithms are great, but they're not perfect and it certainly isn't going to be able to figure out a website based on a single page i'm almost certain of that - there's simply too much to consider for it to be able to draw a conclusion on such little information.

Interesting thread. I think it tends to support the idea that bounce rate is becoming more a feature of the algo. You can try to game the system (all backlink methods - including private blog networks) and might get away with it as long as longer term stats show that visitors from diverse IPs are staying on your site. As a few have commented - that particular site has not YET been penalised for the drop in indexed backlinks. Actually, has anyone yet confimed the deindexing of that blog network or seen a noticeable drop in counted backlinks due to this in any tool?

Guys, I cannot speak for other networks, but the sites we've had deindexed over the last year have more to do with dns/hosting issues then the fact that Google has sniffed us out so to speak. There's no common pattern and it's happened with older sites with hundreds of posts and new sites with dozens of posts. Our first site was deindexed 14-15 mos ago, so if Google had truly "found" our network they would've deindexed the whole thing way before now!

As a % of our total network we're talking about maybe 3% of sites that have been deindexed spread out over a period of 12 months. So not much, and I consider it a cost of doing business. When it happens we disable the site, keep adding new domains, and move on. In many cases moving the site to new hosting, and building some links has resulted in the site being reindexed after a period of weeks. Other sites are more stubborn.

What I've done with a sampling of these sites is create a unique Google Webmaster Tools accounts, and each time the errors that I see are related to timeout errors, dns lookups, etc.. No messages or anything that would lead one to believe that they have been deindexed for poor content or any other reason.

The problem with a network like this is folks are always trying to post comments, scrape content, etc. So over the last few months, we've been constantly tweaking things. Removing unneeded scripts such as the comment poster, and tightening our firewall policies. Ultimately our goal is to make sure the sites are available for the search engine bots first. Otherwise if we've got some spammer scraping a selection of our sites over 100s of connections when the googlebot is trying to download a page it's going to be slow to load, if at all, and we all know that Google will only try to load a page so many times before it either moves on or deindexes the site.

Any how just thought I'd share my two cents for what it's worth.

Firstly,

Google admitted they are Penalizing sites, either automatically or manually: Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: Reconsideration requests get more transparent

Now I want to see the usual ignorants say again: "there aren't Google penalties". Know what? Your credibility is now ZERO.

Secondly, these blog networks can and will be nuked - but there are NOW other methods to kick G in the butt. People just have to be creative about it. The rat race is not over - and Google is always running in circles. Wanna bet profiles/comments/on page or socialmedia will be back full power soon?

Mark this post and check in 2 months.

Thirdly: I don't wish any harm to anyone in here BUT some people in this forum REALLY should get "penalized" or "filtered" or whatever by Google, so they can shut their loud talking mouth for good. I am dead tired of ignorants and sales pitchers.

You know who you are.

Fernando

I have yet to see anyone post proof that an entire network was deindexed
I have seen people say, well I checked my backlinks with so and so network and 5 blogs were deindexed (or domains)

big deal. Thats nothing
Where is the proof that entire networks have been deindexed? name the network>?

I was thinking of buying Digi Article Blaster. This does not sound good.

Thoughts?

I can't speak for others but I had a PR4 site in the ALN network and it got totally deindexed by google and PR4 became PR n/a. Doing "site:" and "info:" searches did not bring any results.

The site had a lot of bad content on it posted by other users. The articles barely made sense and they were largely duplicate content which could be found on many other sites.

Furthermore, a few days ago when I was checking the backinks of one of my competitors I saw that many of them came from a blog network (I don't know which one). Although the links were still showing in yahoo link explorer, all of the sites had PR n/a and searches "site:" and "info:" did not bring any results.

The only similarity between all the networks that got deindexed is they all run on spun content.

Networks that only accept unique content should be safe, for now.

Don't lump up BMR with the other crappy networks please.

It was only a matter of time before this happened.

Though the networks are effective, they should only be one aspect of your SEO campaign.

Too many people rely too heavily on these networks that.

I've noticed many of my BMR links drop dramatically lately. This explains it. Is anyone else with BMR experiencing the same thing?

Oh here's a note from Brandon Baker who was one of the first networks to get hit:

Someone posted this: "Interesting, what do you mean by one bad apple? Just curious what happened to the site which caused your network to get hit. I am not a current customer but am just curious about the types of risks that could happen in other networks. Thanks."

Brandon's reply: "Not sure exactly which link it was, but either Google themselves signed up for a bunch of HPBLs or someone reported all my sites by signing up themselves and tracking their links. I'm positive de-indexation was NOT algorithmic because I had tons of sites with the exact same structure that were left fine."

Just thought I'd share

Read only half of thread but I know for sure at least 2 sectors of seolinkmonster got wiped out. That was all that could be tested due to the nature of their subscription model. The only thing I can say is none of the links were indexed after month trial.

Read only half of thread but I know for sure at least 2 sectors of seolinkmonster got wiped out. That was all that could be tested due to the nature of their subscription model. The only thing I can say is none of the links were indexed after month trial.