New Nuke4Me Service Good?

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Hey guys...Just got an email from SENUKE Creator himself..about a NEW service coming out called Nuke4Me.

Anyone know any more details about this...I know its scheduled to launch on November 1st.

And it seems as though he has an army of experienced SENUKERS ready to take on clients..

I know the software isnt very easy to learn (Need patience)Don't know the cost yet...But wondering if anyone has used and seen value in SENUKE with the latest Google changes. Are profile links valuable anymore??

And lastly...Any Senuker's here participating in the Nuke4Me service?
#good #nuke4me #senuke #service
  • Profile picture of the author robcole
    Hi,

    I have been using Nuke4me since it first started and have had amazing results. It has helped my sites get front page rankings and if you are thinking about trying it then you really should give it a go. Unless you pick keywords that are very competitive then you will see results in a short space of time.

    The service doesnt use all of the available nukes, but even so, provides a service that is well worth the money.

    Cheers
    Rob
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    • Profile picture of the author Valli
      Hey Rob, what would be a reasonable price range for the service?

      I am very sceptical because they are shrouding their prices in mystery and produce a sense of urgency by saying that there will only be 400 open spots.

      This is common in IM, but i wonder what you would be ready to pay, since you know the service?!

      Greetings
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    I don't know about the "Nuke4Me" service, but SeNuke X 2 is AMAZING!

    If the people setting up the campaigns on this Nuke4Me service have even half of a brain, then your results should be good.

    Really easy stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author abbadox
      Here is the pricing info:

      1 url and 3 keywords = $197 for one month of daily senuke work

      3 url's and 10 keywords = $297 for one month of daily senuke work

      You can also order a 3 month pack for $741 that includes 3 url's and 10 keywords.

      They really do not say what exactly is included in the service but it kinda sounds like the old senuke detonator service.

      They claim to limit the total membership to 400 and the service just launched tonight so anyone that tries it out please post a review.
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      • Profile picture of the author spirituscorpus
        Originally Posted by abbadox View Post

        Here is the pricing info:

        1 url and 3 keywords = $197 for one month of daily senuke work

        3 url's and 10 keywords = $297 for one month of daily senuke work

        You can also order a 3 month pack for $741 that includes 3 url's and 10 keywords.

        They really do not say what exactly is included in the service but it kinda sounds like the old senuke detonator service.

        They claim to limit the total membership to 400 and the service just launched tonight so anyone that tries it out please post a review.
        Jeez those prices are much higher than I thought they'd be !!!

        I assumed this would supposed to be a kind of SE Nuke Lite version and coupled with the promo telling us it will be "very affordable" these prices have blown me away.
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  • Profile picture of the author abbadox
    So I watched the video and then I noticed the testimonials section and it shows six websites that have been testing out the service and all of them are bragging about how great the service worked so I decided to do a quick check and see how well the sites are doing:

    I have no way of knowing for sure what keywords the owners are targeting but I assumed for testing purposes that they would make use of the title tag for one of the keywords so that is what I checked for, I also dropped any portion of the title tag that was just the persons name or site name and the results were very interesting:


    url, keyword phrase, ranking position

    rylanclayne.com, Road To Success, not in the first 3 pages

    vitavee.com/forums, How to Make Money Online Forums, not in the first 3 pages

    robselaney.com, internet marketing blog, not in the first 3 pages

    themysteriousmarketer.com, internet marketing strategies, not in the first 3 pages

    youproblog.com, How To Make Money Online, on the second page

    corinzander.com, internet marketing, not in the first 3 pages
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Prince
      I am trying it out...

      1 of my sites I am doing additional linking as well, but two of them I am going to test ONLY nuke4me. Well see how it goes!
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    • Profile picture of the author CorinZander
      Originally Posted by abbadox View Post

      corinzander.com, internet marketing, not in the first 3 pages
      Hi abbadox,

      I've never targeted the term internet marketing. That term would be a waste of time (much too competitive) and wouldn't do me very much good anyway.

      Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author manuksh
      Originally Posted by abbadox View Post

      So I watched the video and then I noticed the testimonials section and it shows six websites that have been testing out the service and all of them are bragging about how great the service worked so I decided to do a quick check and see how well the sites are doing:

      I have no way of knowing for sure what keywords the owners are targeting but I assumed for testing purposes that they would make use of the title tag for one of the keywords so that is what I checked for, I also dropped any portion of the title tag that was just the persons name or site name and the results were very interesting:


      url, keyword phrase, ranking position

      rylanclayne.com, Road To Success, not in the first 3 pages

      vitavee.com/forums, How to Make Money Online Forums, not in the first 3 pages

      robselaney.com, internet marketing blog, not in the first 3 pages

      themysteriousmarketer.com, internet marketing strategies, not in the first 3 pages

      youproblog.com, How To Make Money Online, on the second page

      corinzander.com, internet marketing, not in the first 3 pages
      LOL that`s the funniest thing I have EVER read.
      Good call bro !
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      • Profile picture of the author dsutton
        I am tempted to go for the Platinum package, but would rather try it out before I commit. wonder if I can change my gold sub to platinum later if I choose to stick around. Anyone know?
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        • Profile picture of the author dsutton
          Just ordered Gold package for $297, and I see in my membership area an area where I can update my subscription. So I guess the answer is yes, I can change it when/if I'm ready.

          Originally Posted by dsutton View Post

          I am tempted to go for the Platinum package, but would rather try it out before I commit. wonder if I can change my gold sub to platinum later if I choose to stick around. Anyone know?
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  • Profile picture of the author Osahon Urubusi
    Only place I found detailed description of what the service provides:

    NUKE4ME Review | The Best Nuking Service Period

    That's not my affiliate link, just ignore the first line pitch and read the review.

    I really couldn't tell from the nuke4me site itself exactly what was on offer, but this spelt it out clearly.
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    • Profile picture of the author PhilJensen
      Hey Guys

      I just signed up for the gold package and I'm waiting on my confirmation email so I can add my links and keywords.

      I've created a post to track my experience with the service in real time here:
      Senuke Nuke4me Review | My Online Success Diary

      I'll also try and post my review of the product here as well.

      Cheers

      Phi;
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Price
    It's sold out. Does anyone know when this will open again?

    Or is there anyone who has bought a membership but wants to cancel?
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    • Profile picture of the author sitywyde
      WOW!..I can't believe they sold out already...not even 24 hrs..I guess there was a ton of demand..After looking at the prices, I was literally BLOWN AWAY!...Way to expensive! Cheapest-->$197 for 1 URL...3 keywords... Wow... No way in Hell I would pay that.

      For all you that missed out...Don't worry, I would imagine they open it back up shortly again(for a limited time)..its just what marketers do

      Don't be discouraged that you missed the Best thing since sliced bread... Mass posting to all these sites like Senuke does ISN'T that effective anymore.

      Tell you what... Send me a private message, and I'll look into your keyword, and see if i can get YOUR site Ranked on page 1 of Google for that keyword (ill make it a side project).. More then likely I can get your site there, and Ill even give you a deal $50 per keyword k...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Price
    It wasn't even 24 hours.

    It launched at 2am UK time, and by the time I woke up at 8am UK time, it was sold out. Many UK subscribers never even got a shot.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      I am amazed that there were that many people that paid these ridiculous prices.

      Forget about whether or not you think SEnuke X works. You can find people that would do this for far cheaper than that. Just look at Fiverr.

      Too many people attracted to what they think is going to be a quick fix.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rock Solid Links
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        I am amazed that there were that many people that paid these ridiculous prices.

        Forget about whether or not you think SEnuke X works. You can find people that would do this for far cheaper than that. Just look at Fiverr.

        Too many people attracted to what they think is going to be a quick fix.
        I'm with you Mike. I am absolutely SHOCKED that people are willing to pay that much for someone to run 1 URL & 3 keywords through Senuke. I wouldn't wast my time with Fiverr, but these are seriously gouging prices. Unreal.

        Senuke is powerful and can be very effective if used properly. There are safe ways to nuke, which will build powerful backlinks from authority pages that get more powerful over time. There are unsafe ways to nuke, which create tens-of-thousands of garbage links that will either get deleted or offer very little value to your moneysite. A lot of Fiverr folks and outsource nuking go the second route.

        If you're interested in nuking, you also need to consider your site. Is it optimized and ready to take advantage of your new backlinks? Many nuke services gloss over this. In my opinion; shooting someone $200, a URL, and 3 backlinks is not a very well thought out approach.

        Good backlink building requires proper link velocity and variance. Both of which can be accomplished through Senuke, but man... you don't have to pay a fortune for someone to do it for you. Think about this: you could buy a Senuke license at $147 month, hire a few experienced VAs from Odesk for cheap, and nuke all the URLs and keywords you want. Just a thought!
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        I am amazed that there were that many people that paid these ridiculous prices. ........Too many people attracted to what they think is going to be a quick fix.

        Its like a spell though mike. If some guy came in here saying he will SEO three URLs for $741 the locals would cry foul. If you offered real High PR domain links they would say rip off. If BMR said they were raising their prices to 197 they 'd say too much - but blow a little hype connect it to a push a button software and Voila!

        like a rabbit out of a hat you have said the Magic word. $200 for a ton load of PR zero and N/A links and its just got to be worth it. I'm in! I'm in !!!
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        • Profile picture of the author crimfo
          Well, at least they know they have an issue, they have just published a newsletter in the members area:

          Nuke4Me - A thank you and an apology

          Thank you for coming on board with us at Nuke4Me.

          We had an amazing response to this service. So amazing in fact that we sold out in 6 hours! Yes that's right, 400 spots taken up in 6 hours.

          We have tons of people hounding us at the help desk wanting to get in. We've unfortunately had to say no to all of them.

          The 400 of you who did manage to signup, you guys are our first priority and we won't accept any more members until we make sure that you guys are getting top notch service first.

          But there is some bad news...

          Due to the onslaught of so many new customers and the stress of the high workload that came with it over the past couple of days, some of our staff members weren't able to handle it.

          As a result we had a few people quit on us unexpectedly.

          No worries though. This is a normal part of business and we are working as hard as possible to replace them quickly and catch up on overdue work.

          So if you didn't receive your daily reports from us (80% of you did, but 20% didn't) you can rest assured that everything will come back to normal middle of next week.

          Once we have the system stabilized, you will receive daily reports like clockwork and watch your search engine rankings take off.

          Looking forward to making you a lot of money and keeping you a subscriber for many years.

          To your success,
          Areeb & Mo & the rest of the Nuke4Me Team
          11/04/2011
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          • Profile picture of the author vstar650
            I am not impressed at all, the articles being posted have absolutely ZERO relevance to my target keywords and are very poorly spun… in my opinion they are the same kind of crap that the Panda update wiped out


            I mean seriously… They stuff a keyword such as “best acne cure” in an article about the “Use of RSS Feeds”…. Pleeeaaassse


            Anyway, I’ve paid for 1 month and I’m locked in as they do not offer refunds…. unless I see some good results (and I have a Strong feeling that I WON’T)… I’ll be cancelling my subscription


            For those wondering when they can get in.... I would say there will be close to 400 spots opening at the end of the month as people cancel their subscriptions
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            • Profile picture of the author vstar650
              If anyone using Nuke4Me is interested in seeing what my custom packages offer so they can compare results I would be happy to offer them a free package (case study). Offer is open to the first 3 Warriors that contact me.
              Is this still open, 'de love to take you up on it

              I have a new website that has been stuck on page 2 of Google for a couple of weeks (Moderately competitive keyword) and It would be interesting to see if your service can give it the extra boost that it needs

              Please PM me if your offer is still open
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              • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
                Originally Posted by vstar650 View Post

                Is this still open, 'de love to take you up on it

                I have a new website that has been stuck on page 2 of Google for a couple of weeks (Moderately competitive keyword) and It would be interesting to see if your service can give it the extra boost that it needs

                Please PM me if your offer is still open
                PM sent
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                • Profile picture of the author vstar650
                  Originally Posted by JamieSEO View Post

                  PM sent
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                  • Profile picture of the author sitywyde
                    WOW...A lots been happening here since I've started this thread...a lot of opinions and such...

                    I would like to hear from you as well...on another one of my threads...

                    Its all about Comments and commenting...and does Google even care?

                    Join the conversation..I'm eager to listen--> CLICK HERE
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                  • I tried to get the service but doors were closed already.
                    However i got a much more affordable SENUKE service that does exact as Nuke4me does. It builds links DAILY to your site, and you can try it for just $4, then is $47, $87, or $147 montly according to plan ( much cheaper than the official nuke for me!!) My site has rocket to page 1 in a month. Is someone interested the site is called nuke4me.org It was a good alternative for me, i dont have time to do the nukes myself, and for this low price is really a no-brainer.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Schwanson
                      Hey guys! This is my first post at WF but I have been reading for quite a while. I have also purchased a few WSO's in the last few months, so far all have been good.

                      I have been a member of nuke4me since opening day. I have never used the Senuke software and was leary about joining but sometimes you just have to jump in with both feet.

                      My experience with their customer service has been a bit shakey. I had the same issues at first, duplicate reports, wrong links, missing reports, no response to emails...

                      About two weeks ago the reports started coming in every single morning and they look okay. I had one day where they sent me the wrong report, I filed a support ticket, they resolved it that day. They seem to have the reporting / support issues under control (finally).

                      Here is what I have been getting: 1 report a day that includes 15-30 social nukes, 15-30 bookmarks, and 1 rss aggregate feed.
                      Most of the links are still active but not indexed. The articles are pretty well spun with my links jammed in. Pretty off topic articles, at least they read pretty well.

                      Finally, here are my results after 30 days:
                      I am targetting about 15 kw's for a single site. Mid - low competition. I have been sending all links to the home page with snippets from the pages targetting the keyword phrases on it.
                      2 keywords - #2 in Google - #1 Yahoo & Bing
                      5 keywords - #3-10 in google - #2-5 Yahoo and Bing
                      5 keywords - #10-20 in google - #4-20 Yahoo and Bing
                      3 keywords - #21-50 in google - n/a Yahoo and Bing.

                      Not too bad imo. I have decided to let my membership go another month and see what happens.

                      I should mention that I change up my kw's every 2-3 days in Nuke4me. I have also directed the system at a new website as of today. I'll post any results I get.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Schwanson
                        A turn for the worse......

                        They deducted my monthly $197 yesterday via Plimus.
                        Today I did not receive a report and my account is listed as not active.
                        My service ticket was answered 10 hours later advising me to pay them again directly via Paypal.

                        At this point I would have to say that these guys still have not got it together. I'll post updates as they occur.
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      • Profile picture of the author dotgirish
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        I am amazed that there were that many people that paid these ridiculous prices.

        Forget about whether or not you think SEnuke X works. You can find people that would do this for far cheaper than that. Just look at Fiverr.

        Too many people attracted to what they think is going to be a quick fix.

        Yes look at fiverr
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  • Profile picture of the author rudi
    If you trust your money site to fiverr then you would be crazy. I have found Easynuke.com is an excellent service. It provides everything that nuke4me does however they also use private blog networks and Xrumer. Thus providing more for your money
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by rudi View Post

      If you trust your money site to fiverr then you would be crazy. I have found Easynuke.com is an excellent service. It provides everything that nuke4me does however they also use private blog networks and Xrumer. Thus providing more for your money
      I would argue that if you trust your money site to SEnuke, you would be crazy.

      I'm just saying for those that are crazy, there are cheaper alternatives.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Price
    Has anyone used EasyNuke here? Any good?
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    Might be cheaper to buy a car for that price and go around to local businesses and sell them directly
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

      Might be cheaper to buy a car for that price and go around to local businesses and sell them directly
      Definitely an early favorite for post of the month.
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    Push and pray push and pray....

    *gets prepared for 1,000 posts claiming Nuke4Me has got them banned*
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      Push and pray push and pray....
      Probably about as effective as the old pull and pray....
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  • Profile picture of the author abbadox
    I've never targeted the term internet marketing. That term would be a waste of time (much too competitive) and wouldn't do me very much good anyway.
    Why would you waste your title tag on a keyword phrase you do not want to rank for?.
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    • Profile picture of the author CorinZander
      Originally Posted by abbadox View Post

      Why would you waste your title tag on a keyword phrase you do not want to rank for?.
      Hi,

      It isn't wasted. It's an internet marketing site for sure, but I'm not trying to rank for that term. It's there for relevancy to Google. It tells Google that the overall theme of the site is relevant to IM. When I create backlinks for other IM keywords, I am not only trying to optimize that post to that term, but the site as a whole too.

      I have created backlinks for the term internet marketing, yes, but not to try to rank for it. Just as I've created backlinks with the term affiliate marketing and several hundred other IM related terms.

      If I were going to try to rank for the term internet marketing, it would take thousands and thousands of backlinks (which I could do ) but also a heck of a lot of time. But I don't want to rank for that term. I would rather rank for much more profitable keywords.

      Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
    Considering that I began offering SENukeX services months ago, I was somewhat concerned (and curious) when I got the email about Nuke4Me.

    In August I was forced to stop offering video submissions because of issues with the SENukeX module/server. I spent September/October testing out other methods instead, since overall their video submission results were... less than wonderful... and only just got my new packages up that combine SENukeX/Manual Submission/Semi-Automated Software Tools.

    Given the price tag attached to their new services, I definitely expected big things, but looking at exactly what they include I thought it was overpriced. You get a few articles, but no press releases and no videos - coincidentally the 2 modules I've seen the lowest success rates with through SENukeX.

    The two greatest strengths of SENukeX are fast/easy account creation and interlinking of different modules (eg. Submit an article and bookmark it).

    If anyone using Nuke4Me is interested in seeing what my custom packages offer so they can compare results I would be happy to offer them a free package (case study). Offer is open to the first 3 Warriors that contact me.
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    • Profile picture of the author crimfo
      Hello Guys,

      I guess I was one of the lucky few that managed to get an account before they were all taken up.

      Impressions so far have not been great to be honest. I signed up on the 1st and the first report was given on the 3rd. The report is very light and some of the links in it don't actually link to anything valid for example this is a link that is in my report from today (There were similar issues in the report from yesterday):

      Sod it, as I'm new, I need to have 15 posts before I can submit the URL's, I'll put some spaces in and see if that works (Take out all the spaced to see the real URL)

      h tt p : / /ww w.nexopia. comht t p :/ /w w w. quech up.c om/blog/entry/view/id/396055

      Now, that is quite clearly not a valid URL, but even if I do fix it by removing the neopia URL from in front of the quechup URL, then even that article doesn't actually have the links that I am promoting.

      Also, text that has been submitted to some of the bookmarking site has spin syntax still in it. For example: see the text of the bookmark here:

      h tt p ://ww w.off icialbo okmark. com/stories/655851 /If_You _Are_Not_Making_Use_Of_RSS_Feeds___There_Is_No_Ti me_Like_Th e_Present_To_B.html

      JamieSEO: If your offer of a free comparison trial still stands, I may take you up on it .

      I'm fully aware that there will be bugs in any new product and there is a real reason why they limit the number of people joining to ensure that they can handle all the support for it. Therefore I'll keep playing with this for a few more days and post back as things progress, but my initial feelings is very expensive for a note quite finished product and I would have preferred a big discount if I was going to be considered a beta tester.
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        • Profile picture of the author crimfo
          Actually after reading the comments on the URL PhilJensen posted, it reminded me of a few more gripes I have with the product, they don't spin the articles very heavily at all and they are miles away from related to your domain (but I guess would be very hard to cover everyone's domain). For example If I take the first TWO sentences and randomly TWO full sentences from one of the article that has been submitted with my links, wrap them in quotes and google them, I tend to find well over a hundred other articles indexed that are as near as damn-it identical just with differing link text and links.
          I've not yet had any emails from them, despite the impression that I was going to get my reports emailed to me each day, that's not happened yet.

          Like I said earlier, this is early days, but so far, there doesn't seem to be any strategy behind the links that are being made. It seems to be, make some articles and bookmark them. Nothing "Cleaver" link link wheels or interesting layering / link networking. Like I say, will keep you all posted.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by abbadox View Post

            Here is the pricing info:

            1 url and 3 keywords = $197 for one month of daily senuke work

            3 url's and 10 keywords = $297 for one month of daily senuke work

            You can also order a 3 month pack for $741 that includes 3 url's and 10 keywords.
            All I can say is
            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

            I'm sorry the LOL was just too ordinary for this. This is the funniest thread I have read in a long time $741 for a bunch of PR 0s and PR N/As to 3 urls and $200 (- 3 bucks) for one lousy URL and there are actually some people in this thread wondering when they can get in on it rather than thanking God they missed it.

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! This just confirms it for me . You are all under a spell of Pure unadulterated hype. Snap out of it. Think!!

            Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

            Might be cheaper to buy a car for that price and go around to local businesses and sell them directly
            Reality post of the month.
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          • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
            Originally Posted by crimfo View Post

            Actually after reading the comments on the URL PhilJensen posted, it reminded me of a few more gripes I have with the product, they don't spin the articles very heavily at all and they are miles away from related to your domain (but I guess would be very hard to cover everyone's domain). For example If I take the first TWO sentences and randomly TWO full sentences from one of the article that has been submitted with my links, wrap them in quotes and google them, I tend to find well over a hundred other articles indexed that are as near as damn-it identical just with differing link text and links.
            I've not yet had any emails from them, despite the impression that I was going to get my reports emailed to me each day, that's not happened yet.

            Like I said earlier, this is early days, but so far, there doesn't seem to be any strategy behind the links that are being made. It seems to be, make some articles and bookmark them. Nothing "Cleaver" link link wheels or interesting layering / link networking. Like I say, will keep you all posted.
            I just read through the review on the URL Phil posted and am pretty disgusted. For our unique articles we write them from scratch, keyword optimize them for the client and only EVER use that content for that one clients campaign. If they can't source decent writers with the huge fees they are charging then they must be insane!

            If they are just going to use shared crap then they may as well just grab PLR... and they are obviously ignoring the fact that for any med-high competition keywords Panda G will be pissed when it gets all the duplicate content

            In my experience - SENukeX alone no longer cuts it. Their press release module was never all that successful, and their video submission module was nothing but headaches and didn't even cover the major players (eg YouTube).
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            • Profile picture of the author PhilJensen
              Originally Posted by JamieSEO View Post


              In my experience - SENukeX alone no longer cuts it. Their press release module was never all that successful, and their video submission module was nothing but headaches and didn't even cover the major players (eg YouTube).
              Tempting....I think I'll give it a try.

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              • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
                Originally Posted by PhilJensen View Post

                Tempting....I think I'll give it a try.

                Phil
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      • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
        Originally Posted by crimfo View Post

        Hello Guys,

        I guess I was one of the lucky few that managed to get an account before they were all taken up.

        Impressions so far have not been great to be honest. I signed up on the 1st and the first report was given on the 3rd. The report is very light and some of the links in it don't actually link to anything valid for example this is a link that is in my report from today (There were similar issues in the report from yesterday):

        Sod it, as I'm new, I need to have 15 posts before I can submit the URL's, I'll put some spaces in and see if that works (Take out all the spaced to see the real URL)

        h tt p : / /ww w.nexopia. comht t p :/ /w w w. quech up.c om/blog/entry/view/id/396055

        Now, that is quite clearly not a valid URL, but even if I do fix it by removing the neopia URL from in front of the quechup URL, then even that article doesn't actually have the links that I am promoting.

        Also, text that has been submitted to some of the bookmarking site has spin syntax still in it. For example: see the text of the bookmark here:

        h tt p ://ww w.off icialbo okmark. com/stories/655851 /If_You _Are_Not_Making_Use_Of_RSS_Feeds___There_Is_No_Ti me_Like_Th e_Present_To_B.html

        JamieSEO: If your offer of a free comparison trial still stands, I may take you up on it .

        I'm fully aware that there will be bugs in any new product and there is a real reason why they limit the number of people joining to ensure that they can handle all the support for it. Therefore I'll keep playing with this for a few more days and post back as things progress, but my initial feelings is very expensive for a note quite finished product and I would have preferred a big discount if I was going to be considered a beta tester.
        I think what bugs me is that this is NOT a new product, and if they have spoken to any of the dozens of others that already provide these services on the Warrior Forum, or if they have been using the software for more than 3 months then they would be well aware of the issues they will face.

        To be fair - a good SEO program needs to constantly be adjusted to keep up with what is going on with Google and other sites (eg. YouTube crack down on commercial videos, Panda, etc), however charging top dollar really does imply that they are certain to deliver top results...

        I agree with what you are saying about paying that kind of money just to be treated as virtually a beta tester.

        Many of the clients that have been using my services are well aware that beta testing is something that they should either get free or at-cost. For new packages I am thinking of offering I approach clients with that kind of site and offer them either a free month of promotion, or content-cost-only.

        Out of the packages I test, only about half have strong enough results for me to then offer the package to the public, but the client is still happy since they either get their promotion for free or for peanuts.

        Yes - I still have a spot available for you to get in on the case study (for free).

        The package I will run against your Nuke4Me campaign is the Moderate SEO Pack which I have designed for low-moderate competition keywords. We will write the unique articles for you, all you need to provide me is your URL and keyword/s. Considering that even at full price (without Warrior discount) I only charge $45 for this package it is one hell of a price gap which is why I am so keen on doing case studies to see if the Nuke4Me service is really delivering results that are worth the $197 min that they charge.

        PM me your url and keyword/s and I'll get things started. My campaigns run for 14-25 days. Please make sure that the url you provide is one that you do not intend to do other off-page promotion for during the month so you can see clear results

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        • Profile picture of the author crimfo
          Originally Posted by JamieSEO View Post

          I think what bugs me is that this is NOT a new product, and if they have spoken to any of the dozens of others that already provide these services on the Warrior Forum, or if they have been using the software for more than 3 months then they would be well aware of the issues they will face.

          To be fair - a good SEO program needs to constantly be adjusted to keep up with what is going on with Google and other sites (eg. YouTube crack down on commercial videos, Panda, etc), however charging top dollar really does imply that they are certain to deliver top results...

          I agree with what you are saying about paying that kind of money just to be treated as virtually a beta tester.

          Many of the clients that have been using my services are well aware that beta testing is something that they should either get free or at-cost. For new packages I am thinking of offering I approach clients with that kind of site and offer them either a free month of promotion, or content-cost-only.

          Out of the packages I test, only about half have strong enough results for me to then offer the package to the public, but the client is still happy since they either get their promotion for free or for peanuts.

          Yes - I still have a spot available for you to get in on the case study (for free).

          The package I will run against your Nuke4Me campaign is the Moderate SEO Pack which I have designed for low-moderate competition keywords. We will write the unique articles for you, all you need to provide me is your URL and keyword/s. Considering that even at full price (without Warrior discount) I only charge $45 for this package it is one hell of a price gap which is why I am so keen on doing case studies to see if the Nuke4Me service is really delivering results that are worth the $197 min that they charge.

          PM me your url and keyword/s and I'll get things started. My campaigns run for 14-25 days. Please make sure that the url you provide is one that you do not intend to do other off-page promotion for during the month so you can see clear results

          Would love to take you up on this kind offer, however I can not PM you (need 50 forum posts to be able to PM), can you contact me at david [at] crimson folly [dot] com and I'll do a comparison of your offer against the Nuke4Me package I've spent a small fortune on .

          Cheers,

          Dave.
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          • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
            Originally Posted by crimfo View Post

            Would love to take you up on this kind offer, however I can not PM you (need 50 forum posts to be able to PM), can you contact me at david [at] crimson folly [dot] com and I'll do a comparison of your offer against the Nuke4Me package I've spent a small fortune on .

            Cheers,

            Dave.
            Hi Dave

            All of the spots in the case study are now taken

            You are still welcome to sign up for the usual packages through http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ml#post4989302 - the Warrior Special is still on, but will be ending later this week
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    • Profile picture of the author karlos7007
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      If anyone using Nuke4Me[/U] is interested in seeing what my custom packages offer so they can compare results I would be happy to offer them a free package (case study). Offer is open to the first 3 Warriors that contact me.
      Jamie, I am interested, can you pm me?

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      • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
        Originally Posted by karlos7007 View Post

        Jamie, I am interested, can you pm me?

        K
        Sorry Karlos - that offer was from last year.
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    From what I understand, a few people who learned how to use senukx in an advanced way, teamed up to train vas to offer "guaranteed 1st page" results.

    You won't find any arguments about price from me, but no one has addressed the proposed strategy in their sales letter.

    Let's assume they are being honest, do you even know the techniques they have described?

    From my understanding, it was clear that the price was marked up high and the service was sold to people who were too lazy to learn to use it properly and didn't mind paying the price.

    I'm seeing success on my own so I passed on this.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

      From what I understand, a few people who learned how to use senukx in an advanced way, teamed up to train vas to offer "guaranteed 1st page" results.

      I don't really think there is an "advanced way" to use SEnuke to be honest. It submits to such a limited number of sites and has a lot of interlinking restrictions (you can't directly backlink to the article module, for example), there are only so many ways you can use it.

      There might be a few tweaks here and there related to content creation, anchor text, not spamming sites with links so that they stay active, etc.

      I agree with the rest of your post though.

      The price is ridiculous and is geared at roping in people too lazy to put in any effort or time into ranking their sites. At the prices they are charging, you can find much better quality link building services out there.

      Areeb is good at marketing. I will give him that. He has managed to sell a product that is inferior to other products like it on the market to thousands of users, and now for those too lazy to learn how to use it, you can pay even more to have that same inferior product used for you. And people jumped all over it.
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      • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        I don't really think there is an "advanced way" to use SEnuke to be honest. It submits to such a limited number of sites ...
        You can customize the forum list (one of the 'advanced' uses).

        But I do agree that the default sites they submit to are somewhat lacking for some modules.

        I can not describe how annoyed I was when I saw that the major video sites were not even listed.

        2 great strengths of the software:
        - good for account creation
        - good for social bookmarking

        Somehow I think there are cheaper alternatives for those... :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by JamieSEO View Post

          You can customize the forum list (one of the 'advanced' uses).

          Somehow I think there are cheaper alternatives for those... :rolleyes:
          Ok, you can add forums, but we all know that forum profile links are about the lowest of the low you can get as far as link quality.

          And yes, much cheaper alternatives...

          BMD, Magic Submitter, SEO Link Robot, AMR, and if all you want to do is build linkwheels with Web 2.0 sites, Link Wheel Bandit is the best thing on the market right now, and about $100/month cheaper than SEnuke.
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          • Profile picture of the author wings2341
            @ Jamie

            I would be interested in your offer to study the differences between nuke4me and your campaigns. I can't pm becuase I don't post here much, but my email is kevin@travelerslanding.com if you want to contact me regarding your case study.

            Thanks,

            Kevin
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            • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
              Originally Posted by wings2341 View Post

              @ Jamie

              I would be interested in your offer to study the differences between nuke4me and your campaigns. I can't pm becuase I don't post here much, but my email is kevin@travelerslanding.com if you want to contact me regarding your case study.

              Thanks,

              Kevin
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              Case study is now full!
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      • Profile picture of the author boxoun
        Some people have problems with opinions from people who don't use tools they bash.
        One of the advanced strategy proposed is to build up long term properties.

        Whether they actually do it is a different question.

        This thread is asking about the service but yet people are bashing the tool.

        Whether you like the tool or not, this thread is about the service.

        I know its a lost cause to keep people on topic but sometimes I can't help myself.

        I'm familiar with a few advanced strategies. Whether they work post latest panda is yet to be seen. Point is, just cause you think there aren't advanced strategies doesn't mean there arent any.

        I agree, areeb is good at marketing. He's also good at coding. How can you think he's good at marketing but also be so critical of this service. Imo, if this service fails, it will cast an even greater doubt that his tool works. So if we were to believe that he is a good marketer, we would have to assume he ran tests on the service and not jeopardize the revenue of senukex.

        Execution is a different story. As of now, seems like nuke4me is a fail.



        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        I don't really think there is an "advanced way" to use SEnuke to be honest. It submits to such a limited number of sites and has a lot of interlinking restrictions (you can't directly backlink to the article module, for example), there are only so many ways you can use it.

        There might be a few tweaks here and there related to content creation, anchor text, not spamming sites with links so that they stay active, etc.

        I agree with the rest of your post though.

        The price is ridiculous and is geared at roping in people too lazy to put in any effort or time into ranking their sites. At the prices they are charging, you can find much better quality link building services out there.

        Areeb is good at marketing. I will give him that. He has managed to sell a product that is inferior to other products like it on the market to thousands of users, and now for those too lazy to learn how to use it, you can pay even more to have that same inferior product used for you. And people jumped all over it.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

          Some people have problems with opinions from people who don't use tools they bash.

          boxoun,

          To be fair, I don't bash tools without trying them. I think as an SEO, it is my job to try out most of these tools and truly test them to see what they can do. I subscribed to SEnuke X for 4 months. In fact, I got in when it was $127/month, not $147.

          I tested it pretty extensively (probably about 50-60 campaigns at least).

          I stick by my original point. It is a pretty limited tool (especially for the price), and with so few sites to submit to, there are really only so many ways you can use it. Maybe our difference in opinion is just what some people would refer to as "advanced strategies".

          I really don't feel that there are advanced ways to use it because of the limitations involved in its linking pattern. For example, the inability to backlink articles. I should say the inability to backlink them easily. You could wait for them to get approved, go find all the URLs yourself, and then backlink from there. That kind of defeats the whole set it and forget it enticement of SEnuke X that gets most people to try it out in the first place.

          So based on that, there are only so many things you can do with it. You can't come up with any innovative strategies, which is what I think of when I think of "advanced strategies".

          Forget about if you think the strategy behind SEnuke X works or not. My problem with it is that it is extremely overpriced compared to other tools on the market.

          Magic Submitter, for example, does everything Nuke does and more, at less than half the price.

          If you want to build tons of linkwheels, Link Wheel Bandit is 1000 times better than SEnuke X and you can find it for about $50/month. LWB will even self heals sites. If a site gets taken down, it will automatically create a new one to take its place and adjust all the links. For the price of SEnuke X, it should have that capability.


          As for the Nuke4Me Service, we are in agreement there. It has been a giant fail so far. Funny thing, nowhere in that apology posted did I see any mention of how they were going to make it up to their customers. The customers are paying (overpaying actually) for something they are not receiving. There should be some type of atonement. A partial refund, a free month, free days to make up the lost days, something...
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by boxoun View Post


          I know its a lost cause to keep people on topic but sometimes I can't help myself.

          Yes of course. You were keeping people on topic when you posted about my signature as well right? :rolleyes: - but you are right. You're not a mod. If a service is being talked about in a thread you will just have to live with people making observations about it and any software that the service uses. Welcome to WF thats how it works.



          I'm familiar with a few advanced strategies. Whether they work post latest panda is yet to be seen. Point is, just cause you think there aren't advanced strategies doesn't mean there arent any.
          How you arrange your N/A Pr ZERO links is up to you. Just because you think they are advanced doesn't make them so either. I could show you some advanced strategies using Magic submitter with REAL authority links not just PR zeros and N/As and that service would cost far less.
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    • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
      Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

      From what I understand, a few people who learned how to use senukx in an advanced way, teamed up to train vas to offer "guaranteed 1st page" results.

      You won't find any arguments about price from me, but no one has addressed the proposed strategy in their sales letter.

      Let's assume they are being honest, do you even know the techniques they have described?
      You are right - most users of SENukeX don't understand the basics of SEO, let alone advanced ways to use the software to get the best results.

      I used to manage two outsourcing businesses. The big problem with the Nuke4Me service is that they seem to either be unaware of (or ignoring) some of the well known issues with using VA's/Freelancers/Outsourcing Staff...
      - They can just vanish off the internet and not deliver
      - It is insanely difficult to get workers that provide consistent good quality and deliver on time
      - If the training is too complicated they bail
      - You have to train a new person every time one takes off

      Running a service where you have to outsource the work can be a total nightmare for both the person running the service and the client.

      I have my doubts about the effectiveness of the techniques they talk about, but who knows - maybe they will get great results and I will have to eat my words :rolleyes:

      A few people have gotten on board now for a case study of Nuke4Me vs SENuke-Services.com - will be very interesting after a month to see how things measure up
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  • Profile picture of the author donnyh
    Guys,

    I just had to chime in here because the comparisons between Nuke4Me and Jamie's service (or any of the others mentioned) are not fair at all.

    Jamie,

    The difference between what you offer and what Nuke4Me offers is the fact that you do the submission once and they do it every day (excluding weekends) for the whole month. So they are actually charging under $10/submission while you are charging $30+ per submission.

    I do agree that the issues with the unrelated articles should be fixed though. And I'm certain they'll get that fixed, the quality control is probably a bit low right now due to the pressure of 400 new clients, but things should go back to high quality like they always are with these guys.

    But to call this a "rip-off" is just too much if you take into account the fact that this is "daily promotion". Sure the comparison to fiverr is legitimate, but c'mon, that's fiverr. Do you really trust that site for long term promotion?
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    • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
      Originally Posted by donnyh View Post

      Guys,

      I just had to chime in here because the comparisons between Nuke4Me and Jamie's service (or any of the others mentioned) are not fair at all.

      Jamie,

      The difference between what you offer and what Nuke4Me offers is the fact that you do the submission once and they do it every day (excluding weekends) for the whole month. So they are actually charging under $10/submission while you are charging $30+ per submission.
      I do not just run one submission. Instead it is multiple submissions per day spread over a period of a month and follows a more realistic pattern (eg. it would not look natural to get 200 bookmarks on an article you just posted an hour ago).

      But as I've stated above in this thread, I am curious to know what kind of results you get from each service - that is the point of the case study that I am running with a few volunteers. The results will be published on the Warrior Forum in mid-December to show movements in Google Rankings.

      In my view, this case study is worth me doing regardless of the outcome. The campaigns I am testing are Nuke4Me Silver Package against SENuke-Services Moderate SEO Pack. The case study uses three independent volunteers from the Warrior Forum that are in no way affiliated with SENuke-Services.com.

      My point is that the package from SENuke-Services is 85% cheaper per month than Nuke4Me's lowest monthly package. Cost wise, that means really I am going to be happy even if my services achieve a quarter of Nuke4Me's results, because it would still be more cost effective
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by donnyh View Post

      And I'm certain they'll get that fixed, the quality control is probably a bit low right now due to the pressure of 400 new clients, but things should go back to high quality like they always are with these guys.
      If they weren't prepared to handle 400 clients, they should have limited it to fewer when they opened the doors. Especially at the BS prices they are charging.

      Originally Posted by donnyh View Post

      Sure the comparison to fiverr is legitimate, but c'mon, that's fiverr. Do you really trust that site for long term promotion?
      Based on what people are posting with the junky, unrelated articles being used, yeah, I would trust someone at fiverr more than this service.
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  • Profile picture of the author realmaverick
    In my experience, it's a pile of crap. Actually, the software is smart. Evidently a lot of time and thought has gone in to it.

    Maybe in some niches, it might have some value? But for me, it was useless.

    PR0 links = zero link juice = no benefit.

    So would I pay somebody to Nuke for me? Nuke a chance in hell!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris X
    Didn't use the service myself but a friend told me it's great. And they have very reasonable prices as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mo_Taqi
      Dear Nuke4Me Members,

      This is Mo and I personally apologize for this issue.
      We never thought that spots will fill out so quickly.. We had this problem because few of our employees quit without any notice and we couldn't fulfill the high demand on time.

      As few of you know, We have been running this Daily Nuking service for almost 18 months now and we have always provided best on-time service to all our members and I promise you will get nothing but BEST SEO service from Nuke4Me team.. We just ask for few days time

      I assure you everything will come back to normal middle of next week and once our service starts running smoothly we will add more modules and give more value than anybody else..

      I also want to say something about the promotion articles we are using.. Like I said we have been running SEO service from last 18 months & since then we are using Ultra Spinnable Articles service (Run by Vita Vee) and we never had duplicate content or unrelated content issue with Google and many testimonials is the proof of that.. These articles are manually written by American writers and from my experience my members never ever had issue with these articles and I have never got dup content complain.. For the member who are still in doubt and don't want to use these articles, in few days you will be able to give us your own spin ready articles in members area..

      So please friends give us some time and we assure you that you will NOT find service like this anywhere else..


      To Your Success,
      Mo Taqi
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      • Profile picture of the author vstar650
        Originally Posted by Mo_Taqi View Post

        Dear Nuke4Me Members,

        This is Mo and I personally apologize for this issue.
        We never thought that spots will fill out so quickly.. We had this problem because few of our employees quit without any notice and we couldn't fulfill the high demand on time.

        As few of you know, We have been running this Daily Nuking service for almost 18 months now and we have always provided best on-time service to all our members and I promise you will get nothing but BEST SEO service from Nuke4Me team.. We just ask for few days time

        I assure you everything will come back to normal middle of next week and once our service starts running smoothly we will add more modules and give more value than anybody else..

        I also want to say something about the promotion articles we are using.. Like I said we have been running SEO service from last 18 months & since then we are using Ultra Spinnable Articles service (Run by Vita Vee) and we never had duplicate content or unrelated content issue with Google and many testimonials is the proof of that.. These articles are manually written by American writers and from my experience my members never ever had issue with these articles and I have never got dup content complain.. For the member who are still in doubt and don't want to use these articles, in few days you will be able to give us your own spin ready articles in members area..

        So please friends give us some time and we assure you that you will NOT find service like this anywhere else..


        To Your Success,
        Mo Taqi
        So admittedly you are behind the ball... I assume you will offer compensation for this as any reputable business should... After all, we're not getting what we paid for (admittedly BY YOU)
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        • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
          Originally Posted by vstar650 View Post

          So admittedly you are behind the ball... I assume you will offer compensation for this as any reputable business should... After all, we're not getting what we paid for (admittedly BY YOU)
          I wouldn't hold your breath on that. When the SENukeX software went through some major issues and their server kept going down, along with issues with their video submission module, they did not offer a damn thing. Considering that was for a $147 per month subscription, somehow I don't think they'll be offering any compensation on Nuke4Me either
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          • Profile picture of the author areebb
            Hey guys.

            Areeb here.

            Just sent this email out to everyone. Posting it here in case you didn't receive it.

            Hey guys,

            Once again, we sincerely apologize for the rocky start. Wish we had better
            prepared for it, but you live and learn right

            So for 20% of people, we missed 3 days of work: Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

            Our team doesn't normally work weekends, but to make up for the missed 3 days,
            they will be working weekends for the next couple of weeks to finish
            the overdue promotion.

            We don't want you guys to feel that you're not getting your money's worth,
            and we will go above and beyond expectation to satisfy our users.

            Starting today everyone should get their daily reports without fail

            Another small issue:

            Some people are unable to contact our help desk.

            Our server seems to be having difficulty sending the help desk emails to
            certain users (only about 5 users we know of, but could be more).

            As an alternative, we can now also be contacted on
            jack@nuke4me.com which will communicate via gmail's mail servers instead.

            We highly recommend that if you don't get emails from us, to switch the email
            account in your profile to perhaps a gmail, yahoo or hotmail account so
            you can be kept up-to-date with our broadcast emails.

            That's all for now.

            Looking forward to impressing you with the results!

            To your success,

            Areeb, Mo & the rest of the Nuke4Me Team
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      • Profile picture of the author vstar650
        Originally Posted by Mo_Taqi View Post

        Dear Nuke4Me Members,

        This is Mo and I personally apologize for this issue.
        We never thought that spots will fill out so quickly.. We had this problem because few of our employees quit without any notice and we couldn't fulfill the high demand on time.

        As few of you know, We have been running this Daily Nuking service for almost 18 months now and we have always provided best on-time service to all our members and I promise you will get nothing but BEST SEO service from Nuke4Me team.. We just ask for few days time

        I assure you everything will come back to normal middle of next week and once our service starts running smoothly we will add more modules and give more value than anybody else..

        I also want to say something about the promotion articles we are using.. Like I said we have been running SEO service from last 18 months & since then we are using Ultra Spinnable Articles service (Run by Vita Vee) and we never had duplicate content or unrelated content issue with Google and many testimonials is the proof of that.. These articles are manually written by American writers and from my experience my members never ever had issue with these articles and I have never got dup content complain.. For the member who are still in doubt and don't want to use these articles, in few days you will be able to give us your own spin ready articles in members area..

        So please friends give us some time and we assure you that you will NOT find service like this anywhere else..


        To Your Success,
        Mo Taqi
        My biggest gripe is that the articles have absolutely NO relevance to my target keywords....


        And now you want us to supply our own articles.... come on!


        For a $197.00 per month you'de think that you would supply unique/relevant articles to each campaign and not expect us to supply them.... after all, the whole reason that I signed up was so that I could spend my time on other aspects of my business and you would do all the work, just as your sales letter says.


        P.S
        NO report Yesterday....again!
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  • Profile picture of the author abbadox
    Nuke4Me - A thank you and an apology

    Thank you for coming on board with us at Nuke4Me.

    We had an amazing response to this service. So amazing in fact that we sold out in 6 hours! Yes that's right, 400 spots taken up in 6 hours.

    We have tons of people hounding us at the help desk wanting to get in. We've unfortunately had to say no to all of them.

    The 400 of you who did manage to signup, you guys are our first priority and we won't accept any more members until we make sure that you guys are getting top notch service first.

    But there is some bad news...

    Due to the onslaught of so many new customers and the stress of the high workload that came with it over the past couple of days, some of our staff members weren't able to handle it.

    As a result we had a few people quit on us unexpectedly.

    No worries though. This is a normal part of business and we are working as hard as possible to replace them quickly and catch up on overdue work.

    So if you didn't receive your daily reports from us (80% of you did, but 20% didn't) you can rest assured that everything will come back to normal middle of next week.

    Once we have the system stabilized, you will receive daily reports like clockwork and watch your search engine rankings take off.

    Looking forward to making you a lot of money and keeping you a subscriber for many years.

    To your success,
    Areeb & Mo & the rest of the Nuke4Me Team
    11/04/2011
    Is this going to turn out just like Senuke Detonator, the main issue I have is they tried this before and it blew up in their face and they go ahead and run it again and act surprised by the response. You said from the start that the max membership would be 400 so why did you not have a system in place to handle 400. I hope I am wrong but my gut tells me this is going to end in a disaster like senuke detonator.

    In closing I will offer the same advice as last time, do not focus on replacing the lost customers, focus on getting the service to work and then the customers will come for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Courtney Lee
    It boggles my mind why people would even consider this unless they are seriously not making money and just cant grasp the concepts. Why risk your $$$ site, especially with the increase of PANDA updates Google has done recently.
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  • Profile picture of the author JonathanR
    I signed up for nuke4me.com. I had used SE Nuke in the past myself to get amazing results. Now I simply don't have the time. I received the emails leading up to the launch and decided to give it a try as I thought the people behind SE Nuke would be the right people for the job.

    So far I haver been very disappointed. I provided the URL's and keywords right away. A week later there are no reports. My emails and support tickets go unanswered.

    After reading the posts here from nuke4me.com I feel a little better. It sounds like there are growing pains. But I also feel a little weary. I was okay paying a premium for their service because I wanted absolute professionals. If they weren't set up to handle 400 customers, then they shouldn't have sold 400 subscriptions. Also, the comments here regarding useless content being used rather than original articles is pretty discouraging.

    I haven't given up on them yet. Let's see what happens in the next couple of weeks. However, if it doesn't work out with them, can anyone recommend reliable providers of SE Nuke outsourcing services? What do you think of easynuke.com?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by JonathanR View Post

      if it doesn't work out with them, can anyone recommend reliable providers of SE Nuke outsourcing services? What do you think of easynuke.com?
      Lets get this straight. there is this fantastic software that gives you only PR n/A links but its one claim to fame is that it is set and forget with total automation and scheduling but you can't just set it and forget it but need a provider to run the set and forget software for you on a manual basis that you are willing to pay a hundred dollars a month and up for.



      And none of you loyal SenukeX believers see anything in the least bit strange or contradictory here?
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      • Profile picture of the author boxoun
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Lets get this straight. there is this fantastic software that gives you only PR n/A links but its one claim to fame is that it is set and forget with total automation and scheduling but you can't just set it and forget it but need a provider to run the set and forget software for you on a manual basis that you are willing to pay a hundred dollars a month and up for.



        And none of you loyal SenukeX believers see anything in the least bit strange or contradictory here?
        Destroy Google? Really? Sounds like you're familiar with hype. How much do you charge to destroy Google?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

          Destroy Google? Really? Sounds like you're familiar with hype. How much do you charge to destroy Google?
          Boxoun thanks again for highlighting my signature quoting a post that had nothing to do with it. You are like my own advertising agency . But no I teach others to do it instead of charging them a monthly fee of $147 a month. Thanks for asking
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          • Profile picture of the author boxoun
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            Boxoun thanks again for highlighting my signature quoting a post that had nothing to do with it. You are like my own advertising agency . But no I teach others to do it instead of charging them a monthly fee of $147 a month. Thanks for asking
            No problem Mike. I'm not against helping others make money. I'm sure its a good product.

            It was a simple jab at ya that I thought was obvious. You highlighted senukex hype marketing strategies and I was just saying that youve done the same.
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      • Profile picture of the author pwtmike
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Lets get this straight. there is this fantastic software that gives you only PR n/A links but its one claim to fame is that it is set and forget with total automation and scheduling but you can't just set it and forget it but need a provider to run the set and forget software for you on a manual basis that you are willing to pay a hundred dollars a month and up for.



        And none of you loyal SenukeX believers see anything in the least bit strange or contradictory here?
        SENuke comes with a learning curve. It has its quirks and you can omit submitting to low PR sites which is nice...
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by PWTMike View Post

          I come from a display ad server background and have been exposed to some pretty complicated campaign management techniques. I can say for sure the SENuke comes with a learning curve. It has its quirks and you can set it to omit submitting to PR0 sites.
          Wow thats some real distortion of the kind of links SEnukeX gives. When did Forum profiles get to have PR Mike? Bookmark sites too? Most article directory sites are not much better. This whole learning curve thing is just a side step of the very clear reality that SenukeX gives junk links. You are all kidding yourselves and the people that you sell to.
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    • Profile picture of the author dotgirish
      As a nuke4me users, I have a question, Even though there are many great services here in WSO itself , why do you prefer to get in to nuke4me. There are many great services which even offer google page 1 and they have tons of reviews.

      Just checking to know from a user perspective.

      Originally Posted by JonathanR View Post

      I signed up for nuke4me.com. I had used SE Nuke in the past myself to get amazing results. Now I simply don't have the time. I received the emails leading up to the launch and decided to give it a try as I thought the people behind SE Nuke would be the right people for the job.

      So far I haver been very disappointed. I provided the URL's and keywords right away. A week later there are no reports. My emails and support tickets go unanswered.

      After reading the posts here from nuke4me.com I feel a little better. It sounds like there are growing pains. But I also feel a little weary. I was okay paying a premium for their service because I wanted absolute professionals. If they weren't set up to handle 400 customers, then they shouldn't have sold 400 subscriptions. Also, the comments here regarding useless content being used rather than original articles is pretty discouraging.

      I haven't given up on them yet. Let's see what happens in the next couple of weeks. However, if it doesn't work out with them, can anyone recommend reliable providers of SE Nuke outsourcing services? What do you think of easynuke.com?
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  • Profile picture of the author Seth Bias
    For those who missed out on the nuking don't sweat it. I currently offer SENUKE X services.. just pm me or skype me.


    But that is pretty crazy they sold out in 24 hours @ 400 spots.. That is lots of $$$$ for SENUKE X creator lol
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  • Profile picture of the author billurell
    Bitterly disappointed. as of the 8th day, 2 support requests NO communication at all. No identifiable action taken except taking my money. Let's see a service advertised as selling out quickly, does so and they cannot handle it? Servers can't send out emails? Come onnnnnnn......
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  • Profile picture of the author JonathanR
    I received my first report today. It is for 24 URL's. The text that they have submitted is completely nonsensical and has absolutely nothing to do with my keywords or URLs. For example one of my keywords is for XXXX Villas. Instead of writing about islands and homes and things related to villas, they submitted a very, very spun article on organic gardening.

    Is this what I should expect from the service? I was under the impression that they would be submitting original articles that made sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by JonathanR View Post

      Villas. Instead of writing about islands and homes and things related to villas, they submitted a very, very spun article on organic gardening. .
      Yeah that has little to do with being shorthanded thats just a failure in methodology.
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      • Profile picture of the author PhilJensen
        Damn, another horror story via comment:

        Senuke Nuke4me Review | My Online Success Diary

        I'm starting to feel for all those that have been having negative experiences with the product and I'm feeling generous.

        Let's do a giveaway.......

        I'll be giving away 2 of Jamie's "Moderate SEO Packages"

        To enter leave a comment with your experience (good or bad) with Nuke4Me on our comment page here:

        Senuke Nuke4me Review | My Online Success Diary

        At 4pm tomorrow PST I'll choose the winners randomly. Please don't forget to include your email address in the comment header (not in the comment itself).

        Cheers

        Phil
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        • Profile picture of the author PhilJensen
          Looks like I didn't receive any comments from Nuke4me users on the comment page (other than Jack posting Mo's comments).

          Maybe I can hold the contest in some other form.

          Any suggestions from the group?

          Phil

          Originally Posted by PhilJensen View Post

          Damn, another horror story via comment:

          Senuke Nuke4me Review | My Online Success Diary

          I'm starting to feel for all those that have been having negative experiences with the product and I'm feeling generous.

          Let's do a giveaway.......

          I'll be giving away 2 of Jamie's "Moderate SEO Packages"

          To enter leave a comment with your experience (good or bad) with Nuke4Me on our comment page here:

          Senuke Nuke4me Review | My Online Success Diary

          At 4pm tomorrow PST I'll choose the winners randomly. Please don't forget to include your email address in the comment header (not in the comment itself).

          Cheers

          Phil
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  • Profile picture of the author zoomsixx
    They charge way too much. I'm actually getting a team together right now to start a real and reliable nuke service that will get it done right. Most of these services are complete garbage and have no real understanding of SEO. Look out.
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    • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
      Hey Guys

      Just posting an update here regarding the case study of Nuke4Me Silver Package vs SENuke Services Moderate SEO Package.

      I ended up taking on 4 Warriors across various niches, some with strong sites and existing rankings, some with weak sites and non-existent rankings.

      All participants have received their confirmations and the campaigns are now running.

      CASE STUDY DETAILS
      Purpose: To measure the performance of SENuke-Services Moderate SEO Pack against Nuke4Me's Silver Package
      Assessment: Movement in the Google Rankings after one month
      Timing: Campaigns running from November to December 2011
      Results: Results of the case study will be published on both SENuke-Services.com and the Warrior Forum in mid-December 2011 along with feedback from participants


      Please Note
      The point of this case study is for people to judge for themselves if a service has value. The two packages being compared use only articles as content. Results may be that both services are great, one is better value, or participants may decide that both suck! :p
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    • Profile picture of the author vstar650
      JUST GOT MY 2nd REPORT TODAY (since NOV 1st)…… I am promoting the key word “Genital Warts” (This is not the real key word of course) and they are stuffing my keywords into an article about "Lawn mowers"

      For example: the article reads something like this…. If you want the best lawn mower on the market, then you need to purchase the “GENITAL WARTS” Model 2000, it is the best on the market.

      WTF.... these guys are an absolute JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      P.S.

      The sad thing about it is.... I don't think these guys really give a sh*t... I'm sure this launch has made them $150,000 - $200,000 or more

      It's a matter of "TAKE the Money and Run".... however, screwing people over like this will come back to bite them in the ASS!!!!

      Last product /service I'll ever buy from them!!!!!!~

      TOTAL FU**ING RIP OFF!

      I've asked for a refund.... NO reply.... just as I would expect from a low life service such as this


      STAY FAR AWAY.... STAY FAR, FAR AWAY!!!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by vstar650 View Post


        For example: the article reads something like this.... If you want the best lawn mower on the market, then you need to purchase the "GENITAL WARTS" Model 2000, it is the best on the market.

        WTF.... these guys are an absolute JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        You need to calm down. its perfectly clear to the rest of us that the Genital warts Model 2000 is an outstanding lawn mower with deep cutting blades . it has to be with a name like that. The SenukeX guys have gone above and beyond delivering branding and a unique niche no one else would have thought of.
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        • Profile picture of the author PartainSr
          Hello, just wanted to pass on a post Areeb made in the senuke forum:

          Alright guys here's the deal.

          In retrospect, I realize the advertising might have been a little misleading.

          At the time of writing the sales copy we didn't realize that so many people would think that they were getting 3x the number of promotions with the gold and platinum subscriptions. For just an extra $100/month more, there's no way we can afford to do 3 times the number of subscriptions for the gold members. We thought people would automatically realize that fact but we were wrong.

          Before I go further... let me assure those who stay that you WILL see results. We know what we're doing and the strategies work. Sure the articles are not always on topic but it has been proven time and time again that unrelated articles work just as great for SEO as related articles.

          We do have 6 categories of topics to choose from (you will be able to choose which category you'd like your articles in in the members area starting tomorrow). These are 6 broad topics and chances are one of these should loosely fit your particular niche.

          So if you want to see results, you will see results. But if you want things done exactly your way, we're sorry we just can't live up to everyone's expectations. I realize there are a lot of expert nukers who ordered the service and want everything done the way they'd like it, but those kind of people were not our target market at all. For the kind of prices we charge (less than $10/day) there is no way we can get custom articles written for each member (a good spun article on topic just for you would cost at least $10/day). Right now we're using articles that cost over $200 each to create and we get 6 new ones daily. These are EXTREMELY well-spun. Thousands of variations, so the duplicate content is not an issue. They work. Mo has been using them for over 18 months and people are seeing great results.

          Add to that the fact that we employ a team of over 25 staff members and the costs add up pretty quick.

          If you do the math, you're getting a pretty good deal. Even if you could do the same thing we're doing in an hour yourself, the fact that you're paying under $10/day, don't you think your time is worth more than that? Add to that the fact that if you did this yourself you'd have to pay the fees of the SEnuke software which is $147/month, along with captcha costs.

          If your time is not worth at least that much, then you're not the target market for this kind of service. The service is aimed at those who already are making money through their websites and can afford to invest in a service that will save them time and energy.

          Having said all that, I understand the frustrations. If you've known me for any length of time, you know I'm not an unfair guy and that's not how we run our business. And I have already admitted that in retrospect I do realize the advertising might have been a little misleading.

          So despite the few days of promotion we've done for all members, those who feel they're not getting their money's worth, just email jack(at)nuke4me.com or contact us via the Help Desk and we'll give you 100% of the money back. I know we advertised a no-refund policy but we'll make exceptions for those who felt mislead.

          We do make a loss with this because of all the employees we have to pay and the promotions we've already done, but we'll take the hit. What's fair is fair.
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  • Profile picture of the author JonathanR
    I received a reply back about the unrelated content that was similar to what Areeb says above. Whether or not related content is needed or not, I'm not sure. I always thought it was, but maybe I was wrong. They insist that it is not necessary. (i'd be interested to hear the opinions here)

    On the second point I made to them - the links that they had entered did not go to my website!, they apologized and promised to fix it. (Instead of going to mywebsite.com, the links were going to: squidoo.com/mywebsite.com for example) So someone made an error.

    I was expecting it to all be a bit more smooth than this. I don't however think that these guys would risk their reputation for $100,000 to $200,000. Maybe they just took on too much at once. I'm willing to hold out and see what happens over the next few weeks anyway. I did go ahead and turn over the job for one of the URLs to easynuke.com because they were quick to get back to me, use related content (which I personally think can only help anyway), and cost less than nuke4me.com.

    At the end of the day it all comes down to results. Time will tell.
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    • Profile picture of the author vstar650
      Originally Posted by JonathanR View Post

      I received a reply back about the unrelated content that was similar to what Areeb says above. Whether or not related content is needed or not, I'm not sure. I always thought it was, but maybe I was wrong. They insist that it is not necessary. (i'd be interested to hear the opinions here)

      On the second point I made to them - the links that they had entered did not go to my website!, they apologized and promised to fix it. (Instead of going to mywebsite.com, the links were going to: squidoo.com/mywebsite.com for example) So someone made an error.

      I was expecting it to all be a bit more smooth than this. I don't however think that these guys would risk their reputation for $100,000 to $200,000. Maybe they just took on too much at once. I'm willing to hold out and see what happens over the next few weeks anyway. I did go ahead and turn over the job for one of the URLs to easynuke.com because they were quick to get back to me, use related content (which I personally think can only help anyway), and cost less than nuke4me.com.

      At the end of the day it all comes down to results. Time will tell.
      I've been SEOing for many years now.... and from all my tests and studies as well as all the information surrounding the Google Panda Update..... RELEVENCE plays a MASSIVE roll.... don't let anyone (especially those selling a service such as Nuke4me) tell you otherwise.

      Sure, a link of any kind will never hurt your ranking.... but I can guarantee you that if you have a link from Microsoft.com pointing to your website about "acne cures" and you have a link from Proactiv.com pointing to the same website... I guarantee that the link from Proactive.com will pass on 100x's more link juice.... it's all about relevence folks.... no if's, what's or but's about it
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  • Profile picture of the author PartainSr
    For those worried about link building with nonrelevant content, this is a must see. It's a video by Vita Vee... Let's Talk About Link Building...
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by PartainSr View Post

      For those worried about link building with nonrelevant content, this is a must see. It's a video by Vita Vee... Let's Talk About Link Building...
      Vita Vee is right about algos but wrong about Google. Google utilizes manual reviewers as well and if they have reason to review a site and its links as humans they CAN tell when a site 's content is not related. Plus this is spun content we are talking about.

      No one knows how Google is evaluating content after the last Panda updates. So if you are in a serp where no one cares then fine but go up in the serps against professional SEOs they will spot the spammy links and reviewers whether through audits or reports can out the links easily if they are as wildly unrelated as reported. Further its far from a given that Google does nto use LSI in regard to contextual links. I am not sayin they do but its just not an open and shut case that there is no effect whatsoever.

      Vita has some strange ideas though. Claiming that professional SEOs don't value HIGH PR links is just way off.
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      • Profile picture of the author PartainSr
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Claiming that professional SEOs don't value HIGH PR links is just way off.
        I don't think that is what he was claiming.

        First he pointed out that he built daily backlinks for a few months ONLY on sites that seomoz claims were high authority and with page rank zero. These sites would presumably be the best sites to get backlinks from. After this test, he found that it didn't help his site at all! One would think that if you followed their advice to get backlinks from these sites, your site would benefit greatly.

        Secondly, he didn't say that SEO's do not value the high PR sites. He said that getting backlinks from high PR sites is "definitely more helpful than what seo professionals want to make you believe."

        He said that he "trusts page rank more than any other metric" including more that seomoz's metric for authority sites.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by PartainSr View Post

          Secondly, he didn't say that SEO's do not value the high PR sites. He said that getting backlinks from high PR sites is "definitely more helpful than what professional seo professionals want to make you believe."

          He said that he "trusts page rank more than any other metric" including more that seomoz's metric for authority sites.
          Thats my point. I don't know any SEO that downplays the helpfulness of getting backlinks from High PR pages. Some may also buy into some of Seomoz's other metrics too but his claims are off and waaaay off when he implies that they may even be working for google.

          and if you wonder why I object I (and my customers) would like to think I am a professional SEO and that is not a true characterization of our profession (but it is a popular IM make money online SEO selling tactic).
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          • Profile picture of the author PartainSr
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            I am a professional SEO
            It's great that you agree with Vita about the importance of page rank then.

            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            and that is not a true characterization of our profession (but it is a popular IM make money online SEO selling tactic).
            I can't tell if you're suggesting that Vita is using this as a make money online tactic, but if you were, it would be very obvious you do not know him.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
              Originally Posted by PartainSr View Post

              It's great that you agree with Vita about the importance of page rank then. I can't tell if you're suggesting that Vita is using this as a make money online tactic, but if you were, it would be very obvious you do not know him.
              I think its pretty obvious that most people that write stuff like that don't know the person they are acting like a fan of either. Its rare that forum members actually meet so most of the time its pointless to talk about knowing a marketer. I have never been into the whole IM Guru groupee thing. Don't want to be one and don't want to have any of my own.

              Affiliate or something? I don't get why you are running down the whole Vita Vee side track in this thread. If you haven't noticed the thread is not about him.

              If you must know I haven't liked any of his products. Whats an obvious fact is that he took an unjustified swipe at SEOs without knowing what he was talking about. I am happy for him that Vita at least agrees with me and other SEOs on that subject. but for someone who claims to believe in PR links he rather inconsistently is pushing a weak over priced piece of software in SenukeX that delivers no high Pr links.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by PartainSr View Post

      For those worried about link building with nonrelevant content, this is a must see. It's a video by Vita Vee... Let's Talk About Link Building...
      Two things. First of all, I don't think anyone would suggest that a link from nonrelevant content would hurt a website's ranking. In fact, I think most people would agree that it is still a link that will help boost rankings to some degree.

      I think when it comes to this service though, for the ridiculous prices people are being charged, they are expecting something a little more than an article about teddy bears linking to their website about diamond sapphire necklaces.

      Second, if I'm not mistaken, didn't I see somewhere that Vita's ultra spinnable article service is being incorporated into Nuke4Me? So his opinion on the topic is fundamentally biased. I could be wrong and it might be some other article ****ting, I mean spinning, service.
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  • Profile picture of the author armon
    Wow I just created a thread in the main forums about my review of nuke4me service. Within minutes, someone deleted my thread!


    I simply mentioned that the articles they use for link building are non relevant and there are tons of copies of each n every article on the internet.


    Way to go Warrior admins/mods!!
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  • Profile picture of the author PartainSr
    Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

    I think when it comes to this service though, for the ridiculous prices people are being charged, they are expecting something a little more than an article about teddy bears linking to their website about diamond sapphire necklaces.
    I know this will shock many people on this thread, but I don't think this service has ridiculous prices. To provide everyone with specific unique spun content every day would be cost prohibitive. The service not only has the potential to get you great rankings that can pay for itself, but it will also allow you to spend you time on other aspects of your marketing (the goal of any seo service).

    Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

    Second, if I'm not mistaken, didn't I see somewhere that Vita's ultra spinnable article service is being incorporated into Nuke4Me? So his opinion on the topic is fundamentally biased. I could be wrong and it might be some other article ****ting, I mean spinning, service.
    Fair point, yes, they are using his articles. But Vita has been saying this for a long time.


    Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

    I think its pretty obvious that most people that write stuff like that don't know the person they are acting like a fan of either. Its rare that forum members actually meet so most of the time its pointless.
    I know Vita very well and have for over two years.

    Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

    Affiliate or something? I don't get why you are running down the whole Vita Vee side track in this thread. If you haven't noticed the thread is not about him.
    Another couple of fair points. Yes, I am an affiliate. But that doesn't remove the fact that I know his products and methods work.

    You're right, we got on Vita because of the video. But I would be glad to have the thread get back on topic

    Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

    If you must know I haven't liked any of his products. Whats an obvious fact is that he took an unjustified swipe at SEOs without knowing what he was talking about. I am happy for him that Vita at least agrees with me and other SEOs on that subject. but for someone who claims to believe in PR links he rather inconsistently is pushing a weak over priced piece of software in SenukeX that delivers no high Pr links.
    Vita does know what he's talking about when it comes to seo. As for senuke, it's fine if you don't believe in it's effectiveness. We will continue to use it with great results.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by PartainSr View Post

      I know this will shock many people on this thread, but I don't think this service has ridiculous prices.
      You know what, you are right. It does not have ridiculous prices. It has EXTREMELY ridiculous prices.

      When you consider that what they are doing takes very little actual work, the prices are pretty outrageous. It takes just a few minutes to setup a campaign in SEnuke X. You can easily copy that campaign over and over again and just add new accounts. So to Nuke something everyday, takes very little effort.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rock Solid Links
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        You know what, you are right. It does not have ridiculous prices. It has EXTREMELY ridiculous prices.

        When you consider that what they are doing takes very little actual work, the prices are pretty outrageous. It takes just a few minutes to setup a campaign in SEnuke X. You can easily copy that campaign over and over again and just add new accounts. So to Nuke something everyday, takes very little effort.
        ^ This. Couldn't agree more. I'm still flabbergasted that so many people were willing to pay $190 for one campaign.
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        • Profile picture of the author boxoun
          Originally Posted by samson_is_furry View Post

          ^ This. Couldn't agree more. I'm still flabbergasted that so many people were willing to pay $190 for one campaign.
          Why? People pay 10$ for a cup of coffee. You are obviously not the target market.

          Some can argue it was too cheap considering it sold out so fast.

          Cost = what market is willing to pay for.

          I'm not supporting the service I'm just saying its probably priced just right.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rock Solid Links
            Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

            Why? People pay 10$ for a cup of coffee. You are obviously not the target market.

            Some can argue it was too cheap considering it sold out so fast.

            Cost = what market is willing to pay for.

            I'm not supporting the service I'm just saying its probably priced just right.
            I'm not criticizing the price of the service. Just stating that I am amazed so many people were rushing the doors to drop $190 on a simple nuke service. My initial disbelief has only grown with the flood of complaints from nuke4me users.

            Who is selling a $10 cup of coffee? It had better be good!
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

            Why? People pay 10$ for a cup of coffee.
            I'll spend $10 on a good beer. Coffee? Forget it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

            Cost = what market is willing to pay for.

            I'm not supporting the service I'm just saying its probably priced just right.
            yeah right Box. thats why people are so happy with the service and saying what a great value they are getting for it. LOL. Your logic is flawed as usual. A box of popcorn is not worth $9.00 at the theater . They get to sell thousands of those because they create an environment for it that snookers people into paying that and stops people from bringing in their own. At least there the movie is the main attraction so people let it slide.

            SenukeX and SenukeX services follow the same IM snake oil that there is some Magic in the software or as the service sellers like to try - some magic in the expertise of using it. You can arrange lego blocks anyway you want you won't build a feasible house with them. Every success of Senuke X that people point to is not success for the tool - its an expression of the successfulness of keyword research and finding long tail weak serps.

            147 X 4- 6 months will give ANYONE better resources that what SenukeX delivers. Buying links, trading links, or even using existing networks out there. This is a hypnotize the masses product and service sold on marketing hype and a classic emperor with no clothes story for IM. Plain and simple.
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            • Profile picture of the author egweimai
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              yeah right Box. thats why people are so happy with the service and saying what a great value they are getting for it. LOL. Your logic is flawed as usual. A box of popcorn is not worth $9.00 at the theater . They get to sell thousands of those because they create an environment for it that snookers people into paying that and stops people from bringing in their own. At least there the movie is the main attraction so people let it slide.

              SenukeX and SenukeX services follow the same IM snake oil that there is some Magic in the software or as the service sellers like to try - some magic in the expertise of using it. You can arrange lego blocks anyway you want you won't build a feasible house with them. Every success of Senuke X that people point to is not success for the tool - its an expression of the successfulness of keyword research and finding long tail weak serps.

              147 X 4- 6 months will give ANYONE better resources that what SenukeX delivers. Buying links, trading links, or even using existing networks out there. This is a hypnotize the masses product and service sold on marketing hype and a classic emperor with no clothes story for IM. Plain and simple.

              what do you suggest? where do you build links from? I feel that I have been throwing money at these people (senuke) and not getting anythign back.... i even tried nuke4me and ended up cancelling and getting my money back - as even I could see that there was nothing to be gained from this service....
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              • Profile picture of the author boxoun
                Originally Posted by egweimai View Post

                what do you suggest? where do you build links from? I feel that I have been throwing money at these people (senuke) and not getting anythign back.... i even tried nuke4me and ended up cancelling and getting my money back - as even I could see that there was nothing to be gained from this service....
                He has biased views. Look at his Sig. I'm considering buying it but a few cheaper courses has come out as late. I'll make a decision soon.

                I'm not sure why he's always on attack mode tho. Likes to argue.

                You win mike. I give up. Senukex is garbage.
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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                  Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

                  He has biased views. Look at his Sig.
                  Box not everyone slants their views to a service. Some people actually find methods they believe in and that work and create services based on that. in my case its known by almost everybody that what I have in my sig comes as a result of a thread and requests from people based on it

                  http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...s-help-me.html

                  so the bias coming from my offering fails miserable since that proves it was the other way around. My opinion preceded anything I sell or sold.

                  Some people do like yourself have their own biases based on their approaches and hopes of easy or instant rankings. However although I appreciate your highlighting my sig I'm on record suggesting Magic submitter over SenukeX - don't sell that and suggest BMR and homepage backlink services over nuke services...also not a BMR affiliate.

                  Facts are some e prices sell on hype. People buy on perceived ability to rank and some products are hyped enough to imply value based on an assumed result - smoke and mirrors. So the market setting value argument is skewed.
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            • Profile picture of the author boxoun
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              yeah right Box. thats why people are so happy with the service and saying what a great value they are getting for it. LOL. Your logic is flawed as usual. A box of popcorn is not worth $9.00 at the theater . They get to sell thousands of those because they create an environment for it that snookers people into paying that and stops people from bringing in their own. At least there the movie is the main attraction so people let it slide.

              SenukeX and SenukeX services follow the same IM snake oil that there is some Magic in the software or as the service sellers like to try - some magic in the expertise of using it. You can arrange lego blocks anyway you want you won't build a feasible house with them. Every success of Senuke X that people point to is not success for the tool - its an expression of the successfulness of keyword research and finding long tail weak serps.

              147 X 4- 6 months will give ANYONE better resources that what SenukeX delivers. Buying links, trading links, or even using existing networks out there. This is a hypnotize the masses product and service sold on marketing hype and a classic emperor with no clothes story for IM. Plain and simple.

              It's not my logic. It's basic supply demand. When people find out it sucks then the price drops. I might be quoting wrong theory but I think you understand.

              I'm not arguing value of service or links. I'm starting to lean your way on that. I'm debating current price and since it sold easily for the price, that means it was priced right.

              If it was long term business then we can debate whether it was good decision. If it was it and run for profits that's also a different story. Since we don't have that information, we can only debate on current pricing.

              Again, I'm not debating value just pricing.

              I understand you think it should probably be sold for $10/month.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by PartainSr View Post

      I know this will shock many people on this thread, but I don't think this service has ridiculous prices.
      It should shock no one that an affiliate is in this thread justifying the high prices for a service, posting videos backing up the content strategies from persons who are financially connected to the strategy without disclosing that they are connected with this service and vouching for the SEO knowledge of those behind the service they are affiliates for.

      Happens unfortunately in IM all the time.
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      • Profile picture of the author PartainSr
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        It should shock no one that an affiliate is in this thread justifying the high prices for a service, posting videos backing up the content strategies from persons who are financially connected to the strategy without disclosing that they are connected with this service and vouching for the SEO knowledge of those behind the service they are affiliates for.

        Happens unfortunately in IM all the time.
        Your point would be much better made if I were saying all these things and then following it with an affiliate link. But if anyone were to be swayed by my arguments here and want to have any products or services as result, I would receive no compensation whatsoever. My affiliate links are about as far removed from this forum as I normally am.

        And anyway, I'm an affiliate for Vita who's products we haven't really discussed here. Our little spat has centered mostly on his video about non-relevant content and the rest of his philosophy related to the video.

        But I'm not an affiliate nuke4me. It doesn't even have an affiliate program. But I will be one if and when it gets one.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Doesn't really matter PartainSR. People who have a financial interest in a product tend to be biased toward it so the point is made just fine.
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          • Profile picture of the author PartainSr
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            Doesn't really matter PartainSR. People who have a financial interest in a product tend to be biased toward it so the point is made just fine.
            Hi Mike, (my name is Jack by the way)

            Yes, it matters greatly for an affiliate. The affiliate has almost no financial interest in a product outside of the commissions he receives.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
              Originally Posted by PartainSr View Post

              Hi Mike, (my name is Jack by the way)

              Yes, it matters greatly for an affiliate. The affiliate has almost financial interest in a product outside of the commissions he receives.
              Yo Jack. spin ti anyway you want. fact are what they are. Its perfectly natural and a human tendency to be biased toward a product that you haveve financial ties to with affiliate link or without
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  • Profile picture of the author seoelements
    Like any job the skill is not so much the tools being used but the person opperating them. No craftsman uses just one tool but a selection. And he always uses quality material to work with.

    SENuke X is just one tool and no one should ever put all their eggs in one basket.

    We have found that it does have a place in our tool box but you must distance yourself from the hype and think logically.

    Google has given us all enough warnings with regards to the quality of not only the content we place on the site but also what we distribute. Yes you may see a blip in serps but i can guarantee that if you are relying just on this tool they will soon be reduced when the next Panda filter is run.

    My main concern with their service was that no emphasis was placed on quality checking of the actual website being promoted. This lead me to feel that it was just a money generation service rather than an seo service and aimed at those who believed the hype rather than the substance of what was being provided.
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    • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
      Originally Posted by seoelements View Post

      Like any job the skill is not so much the tools being used but the person opperating them. No craftsman uses just one tool but a selection. And he always uses quality material to work with.

      SENuke X is just one tool and no one should ever put all their eggs in one basket.

      We have found that it does have a place in our tool box but you must distance yourself from the hype and think logically.

      Google has given us all enough warnings with regards to the quality of not only the content we place on the site but also what we distribute. Yes you may see a blip in serps but i can guarantee that if you are relying just on this tool they will soon be reduced when the next Panda filter is run.

      My main concern with their service was that no emphasis was placed on quality checking of the actual website being promoted. This lead me to feel that it was just a money generation service rather than an seo service and aimed at those who believed the hype rather than the substance of what was being provided.
      I agree - there is no magical single software program that handles everything, and regardless of loopholes, systems, etc, Google always has one goal in mind which is to present relevant, good quality content to the searcher.

      Anything that does not meet those two factors (relevant/good quality) may work for a short time, but will end up getting zapped by Google eventually.

      Regarding SENukeX:
      No it does not do everything - they have now completely removed the Video Submission module (but not reduced the price at ALL)

      Regarding Nuke4Me:
      I run an SEO promotion service and so can not provide an unbiased opinion... but my clients can and do!

      Pricing is always difficult to balance, but I think the issue is not really the price, but rather lack of value for money.

      They are providing articles that have absolutely no relevance to the topic.

      Given that for less money than they charge per month you could get unique articles + press releases + videos + all of the other submissions/backlinking, I think that users have a right to be disappointed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Juvv2096
    Thats not good Schwanson mate.

    I personally have senukex and I have found that it DOES take a bit to get good at it and learn how to get the most out of the tools. Having said that, I feel that the results from Senukex aren't that flash.

    Too many people have it and use the default lists. Everyone is spamming the bejesus out of those sites and turns the back links to garbage.

    The only thing I have had use for it nowadays is the social bookmarking service to help get pages and backlinks indexed fast.

    I feel that there are much better ways to get higher quality back links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    I personally use Senukex and several tools. Still I choose Senukex as the best SEO tool. But this service is not as expected. They hired VA's and did most of campaigns. I saw many complains which buyers didn't get correct report. So you better to stick with your own tools. Test some methods and do it yourself.
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    Profile links have gone down without a doubt, but there are those who stil swear by them
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    • Profile picture of the author vstar650
      Originally Posted by chrislangley View Post

      Profile links have gone down without a doubt, but there are those who stil swear by them
      No offence intended, but the only people I know who still swear by them are those who sell them
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael_Le
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    check this out.......

    SEONuking - New Submission Service..!
    scroll down and read the testimonials then read the ones on NUKE4ME.COM..........
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  • Profile picture of the author HannahNg
    Hi all,
    that is so great to read your comments and ideas about Nuke4Me. I provide this service so I hope I can help you a little bit in this aspect.
    - The advantages of Nuke4Me
    + Save time and money: Get #1 ranking in short time, do not need to invest so much money
    + The result is specific and can be proven, quick ranker and update the latest SENuke Strategies that Google Loves
    + No need experience in SEO, let provider make it for you

    - Packages: 2 basic packages:
    + Gold Package: US$ 197/month for 1 URL and 3 Keywords, promoting in 1 month
    + Premium Package: US$ 497/3 months for 1 URL and 3 keywords, promoting in 3 months

    If you need to know any information about this service, you are free to contact with me.

    I am quite sure you will be satisfied with this service. It is a good choice for all SEOer
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      How does this?

      Originally Posted by HannahNg View Post

      + Save time and money: Get #1 ranking in short time, do not need to invest so much money
      EQUAL THIS?
      + Gold Package: US$ 197/month for 1 URL and 3 Keywords, promoting in 1 month
      + Premium Package: US$ 497/3 months for 1 URL and 3 keywords, promoting in 3 months
      Good night man I can Do/get top three placement for $497 and $197 a month for one url when all you can give me is a bunch of crappy N/A and zero links?

      the latest SENuke Strategies that Google Loves
      :rolleyes: So now Google LOVES Senuke strategies of blasting with article directories, forum spam and bookmarks? Do tell. When did Matt Cutts announce this nuke algo change? ROFL

      + No need experience in SEO
      Now thats the one part you told the truth and nothing but
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    Some other options to waste your $297/month on:
    • 10 custom articles to distribute as guest posts.
    • or 100,000 impressions in CPM advertising.
    • or 1000 clicks in CPC advertising.
    • or 8 x PR3 domains to build your own network.
    • or 3 x PR4.
    • or membership to 5 private blog/high pr networks.
    • or 1 month access to a VA who has access to SENuke, AMR, BMR and numerous other private networks.
    • or 30 days of creating irrelevance.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

      .[*]or 8 x PR3 domains to build your own network.[*]or 3 x PR4.
      Come on Troy. Shhhhhhh. IF too many people catch on to how better to spend their money SEO will get hard again.
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  • Profile picture of the author RoyChan
    This is a good service, which however, I only subscribed for 2 months. You need to really know what you want before subscription.
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  • Profile picture of the author giseo
    Anyone had any good results with this service?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by giseo View Post

      Anyone had any good results with this service?
      Page 3 of this thread with mostly bad reviews? Well at least your hopeful.
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      • Profile picture of the author HannahNg
        Hi all,
        Sorry for confused information. Some people must have thought that we are Nuke4Me.com but we are not. We are just a SEO company who provides this SEO service.
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    • Profile picture of the author BlackMetal
      Originally Posted by giseo View Post

      Anyone had any good results with this service?
      No. I would have got better value setting the money on fire.

      If it got decent results price would not matter, but it is the worst performing service/link building action I have ever tested for SEO.
      It is also the most expensive.
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      • Profile picture of the author sitywyde
        I agree...they just opened up again...and i cant beleive people would pay that kind of money for that service, which in comparison to what im launching soon... Ridiculously better!

        and...the monthly bill will knock your socks of... Look for the Buzzzzzzzz coming soon
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        • Profile picture of the author pasey
          Like many others here I bought in to the hype about this service in the build up to their initial launch. I have used SENuke multiple times before and have gotten great results from it, however I just don't have the time to focus on SEO anymore so decided to give nuke4me a go.

          The main reason I signed up was that they touted professional users of SENuke and 100% unique and targeted articles. This turned out to be a major deception.

          For the first week and a half of my subscription I did not receive one report as apparently their professional SENuke staff got overwhelmed with the amount of signups and walked off the job. At least that is what nuke4me told you. Should this be my problem? Hell no.

          When I queried them about getting a refund for the first week I got quickly denied saying they will have been caught up by the end of the week. So at $200 a month I just threw away $100 of that because they took too many subscriptions and they didnt see a problem with that.

          Then when the reports did finally start coming in, I was very dissapointed to see that they blasted my Jewellery related website over EXTREMELY poorly spun articles relating to 'making money online'. This goes against what SENuke teaches in their training video's. The creators of SENuke have always preached that you must use related articles for the tool to be effective.

          Also we all know SENuke has the capability to submit to 100's of article directories, bookmark sites, forums and rss feeds during a single campaign, so I was expecting to see at least 100 submits a day. Instead the report only showed 15 to 20 submits, half of which did not exist when you clicked through to view the page. To top things off when I viewed the pages that did work that my link supposedly existed on my links were no where to be seen. They were apparently falsifying the reports hoping no one actually bothered to check each page they reportedly posted a link to.

          Lastly when I cancelled my re-occurring payment for this service, they cancelled my service immeadiatly despite having already paid for the month. I would have complained louder about this but I thought it was a good thing as I wanted them to stop linking my site to unrelated spam articles.

          To summarise, STAY AWAY FROM THIS OVER PRICED, MISLEADING RUBBISH SERVICE, take that $200 and pay someone on oDesk to do the job for you instead.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketMonsterz
    I've been using Nuke4me since it started and I'm in love with their service! My 3 keywords are very competitive but yet and still we have shot up in Google ranks very quickly. I say in about another month or two we'll be on the first page for each keyword.

    The content they create for my company is right on point with my niche and they answer service and support emails very quickly. Usually within the same day.

    As long as they keep up the good work I'll be a loyal customer.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
    "take that $200 and pay someone on oDesk to do the job for you instead"

    Unfortunately you need to go through a lot of writers and backlinkers in order to find ones that consistently provide high quality and deliver on time

    They ARE there - but the only way to find them is through trial and error.

    Sadly I believe that Nuke4Me takes advantage of the fact that many of their target market know very little about SEO.

    1 - Number of backlinks created does not mean s*%#. A handful of high quality backlinks will out perform 100's of low quality links in a heartbeat.

    2 - You will never receive a completely accurate Article Submission URL report. The best article directories, many video sites and other high quality sites will manually approve content that has been submitted, which means that there is no live link at the time of submission that can be listed. The submission may be rejected, may be quickly approved, or may take weeks to get approved.

    3 - Diversity among your backlinks goes a long way toward getting a great ranking. Relying on just a small number of sources (eg only article directories and forum backlinks) will not perform as well as if you also mix it up with Twitter, social networks, etc.

    3 - QUALITY IS KING While you can try and exploit weaknesses in Google to get quick rankings, they will not last. Many of the sites that rapidly rise in rankings but have poor quality content tend to fall just as quickly. For the best long term results both your website content, along with content you are using for promotion (eg articles) should be unique, keyword optimized and on topic.

    Google is NOT looking for crappy matches. If the article has nothing to do with the keyword/anchor text being used then it will eventually get penalized. It may take a while for that to happen, but Google's aim is ALWAYS to try and get the best matches for the searcher.

    Good quality takes time. "Instant" or "quick" often means 'crap quality'.

    4 - Since Google's Panda update, making sure that your website is staying "fresh" is a big factor in ranking well. You should be adding new content each month, if not then you need to be putting a heap more time and money into off-page campaigns. The testing I've done showed I had to do about 5 times more off-page SEO if a site was not being regularly updated.

    My advice to anyone is to shop around and take note of:
    - The ranking results you get (always measure monthly)
    - The quality of the content created
    - Quality of customer service
    - Whether or not they are willing to answer concerns BEFORE you spend any money

    The single biggest priority for me personally is to provide great value for money to all of my clients. I don’t do hype.

    The majority of our orders are from repeat customers, and so the priority for me, and for my employees is to always provide clients with a high quality, great value for money experience.

    If you want to try it out you can visit the Warrior Forum Ad here

    Alternately, if you are looking for a different service, make sure they are happy to answer your questions so you can see they know what they are doing.

    Also check out feedback that people have left about the service you decide to use.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Man, what an idiots at this forum, trying to defend SenukeX cause it has somewhat of a learning curve. A learning curve really??? Can't you people read English or something? I used a cracked version of senuke and soon after I throwed it away but the learning curve was 0, it states very clearly what you have to do with tons of those yellow question marks to assist you.

      So don't come up with excuses that Senukex is good but that people just don't understand how to use the software. The software is a piece of garbage and paying $200/month for NukeMe services is just ridiculous.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by JamieSEO View Post

      "take that $200 and pay someone on oDesk to do the job for you instead"

      Unfortunately you need to go through a lot of writers and backlinkers in order to find ones that consistently provide high quality and deliver on time
      I like your posts but this is not true Jamie. To be succesfull with outsourcers you need to lay out a plan of action of what they "exactly" have to do. The quality of the work that they provide depends for the full 100% on the instructions that you give them.

      When I outsource a job on oDesk or GetAFreelancer I provide them a list with url's where to post and I also provide them with pre-spun articles in case thats necessary. Next I ask them to do 5 links from each list that I provide (I provide mostly like 8 lists of different sources for backlinks) and after that I manually check them and if certain things went wrong I get them on Skype to explain them and re-check the work afterwards. Once this process is done I have a hell of a good outsourcer to work for me and it costs me less then 30minutes of my time.

      I do agree with the "deliver the work on time" though, some move walls and others are damn slow. For article writing its pretty easy, I only hire writers from the US/Canada/UK, with a little search you can easily find cheap writers from these countries.

      For other projects I use writers from the phillipines for dirt cheap and have a native english writer proofread and edit them.

      A little trick that I use for content that doesnt have to be perfect is to chat with your cheap writers and explain them you gonna pay them even less if they want to keep working for you cause you need a proofreader to edit them, which costs extra money. My articles for a certain sites had bad grammar in every single sentence, after this 10 minute chat the next day the articles only had grammar issue's once in each paragraph and I was fine with that. You just need to know how to handle these people. A simple online grammar tool does wonders for their content.
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      • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        I like your posts but this is not true Jamie. To be succesfull with outsourcers you need to lay out a plan of action of what they "exactly" have to do. The quality of the work that they provide depends for the full 100% on the instructions that you give them.

        When I outsource a job on oDesk or GetAFreelancer I provide them a list with url's where to post and I also provide them with pre-spun articles in case thats necessary.

        I do agree with the "deliver the work on time" though, some move walls and others are damn slow. For article writing its pretty easy, I only hire writers from the US/Canada/UK, with a little search you can easily find cheap writers from these countries.
        The plan of action and clear direction definitely helps, but there are some people that are a lost cause

        Regardless of providing templates, clear instructions, answering questions, etc, unfortunately you will get some freelancers that just don't get it. I do not mean language issues - in fact the biggest problems I have had tend to be with US workers where English is their first language.

        Reliability is to me just as important as quality. It's great to have a good quality article, but if I need it within 5 days and they take a month to deliver then it's of no use to me :p

        I'm happy with the team of writers, video creators and backlinkers I have now, but it did take time to get the best
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Yeah I think I missed the word "consistently" in your post

          Btw just curious how much you pay your writers, I never want to pay more then $3/article cause I'm a cheap ass and its possible, for now, till I really have a massive amount of work to outsource, then it might become a big problem
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          • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Yeah I think I missed the word "consistently" in your post

            Btw just curious how much you pay your writers, I never want to pay more then $3/article cause I'm a cheap ass and its possible, for now, till I really have a massive amount of work to outsource, then it might become a big problem
            I always pay at least $5 per article (400-500 words). For standard writers I tend to pay $5, but where I am looking for an article to be written faster than usual or have a more controversial topic I pay $10.

            Where I am needing extremely high quality I pay between $20 and $40. Usually in that price range I expect the writer to have strong copywriting experience and am using that content for the purpose of it having a very high conversion rate.

            Under $5 the quality is rarely at a standard I am happy with.

            On average a good price range is $5 to $10 per article. For a $5 article I usually set the Title myself (often half the time spent on an article anyway).
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  • Profile picture of the author davido1
    Good info here. Thank you everyone! Jamie, your sites are down. Are you still providing any of those services?
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    • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
      Originally Posted by davido1 View Post

      Good info here. Thank you everyone! Jamie, your sites are down. Are you still providing any of those services?
      Hey Davido

      Current services are listed at http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...n-service.html

      Since last month I have reduced the number of clients I take on and so now only advertise on the Warrior Forum
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