Article Spinning Confusion!

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I am having a difficult time understanding why to spin articles. Here is my question, I have a few entertainment blogs, I am not selling anything but I frequently write articles for them. Is it ok to send the article to article directories (after they are indexed from my site) or do I need to spin unique articles for the directories themselves?

Also what would we be the best tactic for linking back to the original article if this is the way to go.

Thanks so much for any help!
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  • Profile picture of the author virtualprincipal
    In my vast internet experience, spinning seems to be a waste of time. I have tested article marketing with and without spinning and have seen little or no difference....
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  • Profile picture of the author goosefrabah
    Ahh split 50/50 that's what seems to be what I have been reading. I am just unsure how the article directory's like it. Will they accepted my unique written article if it's already on my site? Thanks for all of your help so far!
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    A lot of directories require original content only.

    Spinning can be ineffective if the spin is not that detailed and they are blasted all at once (the search engines aren't that stupid).

    But I have found that if you spin an article very deeply and schedule a long term submission task across all directories using AMR or similar it can produce better results.

    Just link the resource box to the original article on your blog.

    If you are linking the same content to eachother Google may discount the quality of the link though.
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    • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
      Originally Posted by dadamson View Post

      A lot of directories require original content only.
      Not true. For instance, I post every one of my articles on my blog, then a handful to EZA in hopes of syndication. The point of article directories is for people to go there and syndicate articles, therefor they have no need to require original content.

      If you do decide to spin, please edit the article really well! If you feel like you need more than one version of an article, I find a manual rewrite works really well and your readers will be much happier.
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  • Profile picture of the author CapitalB
    In the past, I've done this with EZA. I used to be able to submit my previously posted blog posts. However, after Panda I've had to rewrite and resubmit unique and quality blog posts.
    Spinning or re-writing is probably the least frustrating.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    The best way to "spin" articles is to sit down and manually re-write them.

    Works a treat every time
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  • Profile picture of the author jahangir87
    Yeah even after spinning I had to make many changes to make the spelling/grammar correct that took me time thats equal to writing an article.So spinning is not a good option specially after Panda it has lost its importance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by goosefrabah View Post

    I am having a difficult time understanding why to spin articles.
    No reason I've ever heard of, though some other people (with "information" from very different sources from mine) apparently envisage some. :confused:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...necessary.html

    Originally Posted by goosefrabah View Post

    Is it ok to send the article to article directories (after they are indexed from my site)
    Yes; perfectly ok.

    It's what almost all the successful professional article marketers here (who use directories at all) do.

    Article directories don't require previously unpublished content.

    Originally Posted by goosefrabah View Post

    Also what would we be the best tactic for linking back to the original article if this is the way to go.
    Don't link back to another copy of the same article - that would be a way to lose most of your traffic!

    There's no point in using article directories for their own traffic or their own backlinks. That's not their purpose, and it's an unproductive attempted use of them. As explained in this post.

    Using article directories for backlinks is a fallacy, as explained here. And here.

    If they interest you, these few recent threads are worth a read-through, to appreciate the current position with article marketing (actually including "how to use article directories").

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-articles.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-articles.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-articles.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...explained.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-question.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ifference.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...mith-myob.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...e-wonders.html
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  • Profile picture of the author Akogo
    Instead of spinning articles for the directories, why don't you write new and unique articles for them? You can link back to your original articles in the resource box in these newly written articles. People usually spin articles and post them on freebie sites for backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Akogo View Post

      Instead of spinning articles for the directories, why don't you write new and unique articles for them?
      Because they don't require "new and unique" ones?

      Because if I had "new and unique" ones I'd obviously want to publish them on my own site first and have them indexed there before submitting them to any article directories at all, as any sensible article marketer would?

      Originally Posted by Akogo View Post

      You can link back to your original articles in the resource box in these newly written articles.
      You mean it seriously? You'd link back from one article to another, in the resource box? Not to your landing-page?
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveDolan
    I do spin articles, but not just for article directories. In fact I pretty much now only use EZA, Buzzle and GO Articles as these give me the best chance of syndication and do send some traffic my way.

    I use the spun content to post to Web 2.0 sites that carry more weight in their links (tho not as much as they used to) and as content for posting comments to relevant on topic blogs - again for the back links.
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    • Profile picture of the author JimmyR
      Originally Posted by SteveDolan View Post

      I do spin articles, but not just for article directories. In fact I pretty much now only use EZA, Buzzle and GO Articles as these give me the best chance of syndication and do send some traffic my way.

      I use the spun content to post to Web 2.0 sites that carry more weight in their links (tho not as much as they used to) and as content for posting comments to relevant on topic blogs - again for the back links.
      Steve's got the right idea. Whether you spin for directories or not is up to you. People will argue polar opposites on this forever.

      For things like blog networks and web 2.0, you can get a lot more juice with one article spun and resubmitted to a bunch of them. Web 2.0 can be pretty damn strict though (especially hubpages) so you need some heavy spin to get past their filters. This only applies to the big ones though - hubpages, infobarrel, associated content, somewhat squidoo
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  • Profile picture of the author bostoncitymass
    This is how I understand it, but at the end of the day no one truly knows how Big G works. If you have a post on your main site that is already indexed, write a unique article about that post or subject. Link back to the original post. I don't spin anymore personally, but again some will say to do it some will not.

    Now the big fear is duplicate content is the whole "Panda thing". The way I understand it, is that if Google determines that there is duplicate content they won't show the duplicate content in the SERPS. But, that doesn't mean you aren't getting the backlink from the duplicate content. It's just not showing, which pending on your situation doesn't matter because you want your main post to show up anyways, the article in the directory is there just for the backlink. So it is important not to backlink to a post until the main post is indexed, so the article doesn't show up as the "main post".

    Is this true? Again, who really knows for sure, unless you are an engineer for Google, but that is just what I have read and understand it.

    Can spinning help? I don't know about help in the sense that you have a better chance of ranking over someone that isn't spinning, but I would guess it can't hurt. I personally haven't noticed a difference now that I don't spin anymore, but I just don't have the time or patience to spin good readable articles to be honest.

    Again, just my opinion, I could be totally wrong, but like I said, at the end of the day, no one TRULY knows how Google works, we can only do our best to try to figure it out and work from there.
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    • Profile picture of the author goosefrabah
      What a group of refreshing replies and understanding. I was very stuck until I posted this. I am very happy with the census that spinning is really not needed when submitting your articles, although using them on some web 2.0 properties is a pretty good idea. I just didn't know if spinning, which was taking forever was even worth it, now with everyone's knowledge it seems to be better to write another quality article or two then spin the same one 100 different ways.

      Alexa at first I saw many posts of yours on here about articles and was not getting your point. The more I read it the more I understood that we both have the same understanding. Write good content for syndication not for the getting the link from the directory itself.
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  • Profile picture of the author floydjr32
    I don't spin my articles but I use Ezinearticle website to write good articles and if I want readers to visit my blog or squeeze page, I add it on the resource box.
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  • Profile picture of the author plongmire
    Originally Posted by goosefrabah View Post

    I am having a difficult time understanding why to spin articles. Here is my question, I have a few entertainment blogs, I am not selling anything but I frequently write articles for them. Is it ok to send the article to article directories (after they are indexed from my site) or do I need to spin unique articles for the directories themselves?
    yes you can...they do not require you to rewrite it. But it all has to be posted under the same name, so when they check it, you need to make sure you submit all those articles under the same name.

    I actually wrote this article in the warrior articles but will post here as well...it has more to do with why you should focus on ezines beyond the backlink...


    Be Sure To Watch The Video...it has more info than the article below.

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    You can use popular article sites like ezine to create concise, well-written articles for your business. You will increase the amount of outside links to your site and give yourself better standing in your field. Make sure the article is relevant, has your bio info and is filled with useful keywords.

    Ezines are one of the best publishing platforms to use for an article marketing campaign. Remember to check the requirements ezines put on their articles, though. These requirements can change frequently. Review an ezine's terms of service before you send it your first article, and go back to check it for changes regularly if you continue sending it material.

    After you have posted your article to your blog, then you can start submitting the same article to different directories. What you want to make sure of is that when you post these articles that do so under the same name.

    This article should be totally unique, high-quality, and optimized for your keyword.

    Be sure to write a compelling author's resource box that contains two backlinks to your site, one pointed to your main domain, and one to the original article.

    Submit the same article to EzineArticles.com. Once your article is published there, you will have your own author's RSS feed. Each article that is approved on Ezine will ping your author's feed.

    But where it gets really cool is when you find the Ezines with large distribution and you build relationships with them. That way every new article you write gets syndicated to a ton of people. Outside of the directories that most people turn too...

    Other places to post to...



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  • Profile picture of the author clr06160
    Google hates spinning and so do the users. It's not a good long-term solution. Unique content that is written so well nobody can easily spin it is best.
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  • Profile picture of the author tlrix
    If article is indexed on your site first then you can submit to other article directories afterwords.... but in case of eZineArticles you need to submit to them first or they will not approve your article...
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  • Profile picture of the author sydants
    Hi Goose,

    Didn't know how else to get onto you regarding adding you on skype so I thought I might try my luck and post in your thread to see if you've subscribed too it.

    Cheers, Sydants.
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