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Hey All - hope you are well?
Recently I have been reading about how to get your backlinks indexed etc.
Some say it is wise to allow Google to pick them up naturally, then others disagree.......... and say that you must have your backlinks pinged etc, so I am a little confused!
Can anyone advise me on this and point me in the right direction to services or techniques on how to do this.
Regards and thanks,
Luke
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  • Hey Luke, I think just leave them to get found naturally... if they are posted on decent PR sites that are crawled often they'll get picked up quick enough
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    • I totally agreed with Prowler........... leave it .......so that Google indexed in natural way.......
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  • The best thing is - pay attention to your google webmaster tools and see which sites the links appear on.

    I have posted links in directories, and 4 years later the links still have not been indexed by google. The sites were not search engine friendly, or google did not link the types of links in the directory.

    Search engines find things, that is what they do. Let the search engines find your links.
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  • I Got Way to get backlinks indexed - When You build backlinks save the url in notepad and than open new acount in gmail , go to your personal acount and make new letter - in the letter put the url of the backlinks and send the letter to the new email that you opened,
    Go to your new gmail and open the new mail.
    how the backlinks will index ?
    Google write the mails of every gmail acount so if you will put your backlinks google will read them and than indexed them - in one day you backlinks will be indexed

    * Preferably up to 100 links
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    • You sure that works?...
    • I tried this a long time ago and its just a myth that doesn't work at all
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    • did you test this? are you absolutely certain this works?
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  • Hey there, are you trying to make a backlink for your website? It's true that making auto backlinking is no longer good since google is penalizing those ways for now. You can still however manually make backlinks. There are many ways you can do here. You write articles and submit them to article directories and add backlinks going to your site. You can also find some blogs related to your niche and add a link going to your site. Lastly you can bookmark your links through social networks like facebook and twitter. Just do it naturally and surely your site will be indexed.
  • The best way is backlinking your backlinks, increasing the chance that your links are found -make something like a simple 2 tier link pyramid which i described here.

    The key is to have a smaller number of links and backlink to them with a higher number of links, like 10 backlinks on web2.0 etc site...and then use 100 or more other links and link back to them to significantly increase chances that the links are indexed.

    In addition, it also looks natural. I dont "force index" links..simply increase number of links.
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  • I agree with going the natural route... this is always best as the search engines will find your links fairly quickly anyway. Regarding pinging, you should use this strategy to alert the search engines that your page has been updated.
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  • If you have no hurry, leave them for natural indexing. If you want 'impact', go for pinging them. Its simple. Further, pinging makes sure that the Google indexing all the backlinks you have. thanks, Luke.
  • Checkout backlinksenergizer.com

    You can easily find some videos on YouTube if you'd like to see a demo of how it works.
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    • Now that is a tool i have been meaning to try for some time just trying to find a couple of reviews first to see if its remotely legit
  • thanks all for getting back with good advice. it seems that the natural route is best so that what I am going to do. the process of linking to your backlinks makes logical sense so will try that (thx GeorgeR). thanks again, regards Luke
  • try to submit your links in some social bookmarking websites
  • Hi Luke,

    I think there are too many noise and confusing suggestion around, allow me to explain more in details...

    Yes, one or few backlinks that had links from the home page would be very easy for Google to find and index them; but what if you have a lot of backlinks that buried deep under pages without direct links from the home page?

    There are many free link crawling tools, and pinging them is one way to notify Google to come and crawl them.

    Here are 2 of the most popular RSS based link crawling service, both had free account available:

    1. Nuclear Link Crawler
    2. Linklicious

    Just sign up an account, upload your backlinks and the system will help you notify Google to crawl and index your backlinks.

    If you want better index rate, try Nuclear Link Indexer or BacklinksIndexer, both charge higher for indexing your backlinks because they build backlinks to your backlink!

    or if you prefer to build your own network, try:

    1. Backlink Index Express
    2. Backlink Energizer

    Just use any kind of tools to get them at least crawl, I don't really believe in "natural indexing", that's too slow and out of control, especially when you have 10,000 backlinks to index!

    More information about crawling vs indexing : http://www.seospeedsight.com/seoforu...ct-my-ranking/

    Kok Choon
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  • Use some free pinging tool to index your backlinks.
  • To get your backlinks indexed you need to do nothing actually. The good way to have fast indexing is to have a good number of high PR and regularly visited sites link to you. As they are important they will be crawled regularly. If they have your link then chances are highly likely that your link will be crawled along with all the rest.
  • Search Engines have own algo. to indexed website. So leave them to get found naturally. Moreover you can perform bookmarking of your backlinks on 4-5 site that'll help...
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    • I haven't heard anyone giving the ping-bookmark-rss method on this post, so here goes:

      Creating backlinks to your backlinks works as a lever, and carries a harder punch to get your liks noticed and pass link juice to your site. It is true that all your links do not have to be indexed to pass the juice, but the more links to your links, the stronger ther lever. So first get all your links and ping them. Then, you want make bookmarks with separate accounts to all of them, and since you can create several links in each bookmark account this shouldn't be a problem; you can use BMD to help you with this. Then get all of those bookmarks and make an rss feed of them; rssrobot is a cheap solution or go to the site links2rss. Then, ping those rss feeds and you should be good to go.

      I use Scrapebox to check a mass list of indexed vs. non-indexed. Another cool trick if you have a subscribtion to senuke, sick or magic submitter is you can setup these tasks to work on auto, just remember to spread the submissions over days(I use 10 days) so it doesn't look like a huge wave of links coming in. Patience is the key.

    • Thats quite a bit of work just for link indexing - how do you do that if your making 1000's of links per day?

      Gotta get some automation mate.
  • Question for the pros...

    I have a large product review site and I don't naturally generate backlinks to my individual review posts (except for guys who steal my RSS feed for their autoblogs).

    I have about 31 different anchor texts I'm using for backlinking to the index page.

    How important is it to build links to your individual content pages while you are aggressively building backlinks to your index page?
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    • It's all about looking natural to the search engines so only having backlinks to your index page is either looks like an extreme oddity or unnatural. So yes, always backlink your inner pages. I usually link my inner pages first and then concentrate my efforts on my index page.
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    • I have a large list of quality blog URL's that I've had success with that get indexed naturally. I gathered them through trial and error using Scrapebox. Outside of blog comments I usually just buy them. Whatever speed you decide to add backlinks just always remember to keep it steady for at least three months before reducing. You never want a single blast and then do nothing. Again, that does not look natural.
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    • Yukon, with that method you can only pick one internal page to promote at a time if I understand you correctly. Once you move on to the next page you have to change your internal link to the next page also. Unless you keep the original internal link but in that case you'll end up with every internal page linking with every internal page which is what I do from the outset. Please clarify thanks.
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    • BTW, I just installed the Similar Posts plugin... seems to do a good job of interlinking posts with similar posts for me.
    • Thanks Yukon, I will try out your method. I have a site with 30 pages and I have geared it so five pages will rank (one main page and five supporting x 5 = 30 pages). I admit I do have all five main pages linked to each other. According to your strategy I will remove all other internal links of the five supporting and just link to the main page.

      If that's correct (I know it's 5 and not 9 pages as you suggest) then I will begin the implementation.

      Great advice Yukon, I hope it works!
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    • I usually backlink my main page and inner pages both. The inner pages are usually targeted to specific keywords that are more longtail and the main page is usually targeted toward the bigger keywords.
    • Yukons method works great,been doing it on my ecommerce site for last 4 weeks been getting triple serp places on same page.

      I make the catagory page the main page keyword rich title then the product page links to the cat page and to another related product page in that catagory.

      The best thing is sales are taking off having those extra listing appearing in serps
    • When you look at the top 10 results for some competitive keywords... there are only about 30 - 50% of the total backlinks that point to the index page. You rarely see top sites in a competitive niche with most or ALL of the links pointing to the root.

      I would say.. spread the links around a bit and build some links to your inner pages. Maybe choose some of your most important ones and focus on them.
    • Interesting. So yu don't recommend linking every page from every page. That means no recent posts in the sidebar, right? And whata bout categories? Do you have a static page as home page or latest posts?

      Great discussion here
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    • Hi Yukon,

      I have a question to ask about using tight internal linking for local keyword phrases.

      I'm trying to rank for 30+ keyword phrases in a city, some of which are kind of redundant/repetitive but they are keyword phrases I want to rank for nonetheless.

      I would like to rank for ALL the following local keyword phrases but I'm not certain what kind of content I should write for each page and which page should be the main page and which pages the supporting pages since some of them are repetitive; and I've already grouped them together:

      auto wreckers in (city)
      auto wrecker (city)
      (city) auto wreckers
      (city) auto wreckers
      auto wreckers (city)
      auto wrecker (city)
      (city) auto wrecker

      auto recyclers (city)
      auto recyclers (city)
      car recycling (city)
      (city) auto recyclers
      scrap car (city)
      auto recycling (city)

      (city) auto salvage
      (city) automobile salvage
      auto salvage (city)
      auto salvage (city)
      salvage auto (city)
      car salvage (city)

      buy junk cars (city)
      junk a car (city)
      we buy cars (city)
      junk car buyers (city)
      junk auto buyers (city)

      cash for clunkers (city)
      (city) cash for clunkers

      cash for cars (city, state spelled out)
      cash for car (city)
      cash for car (city)

      junk car removal (city, state)
      junk car removal (city, state spelled)

      sell junk car (city)
      sell my car (city)
      sell car (city)
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    • And Yukon,

      This was asked earlier but I was hoping to get clarification and more specifics...

      If you have a WP site with a widget(s), i.e., side bars that list pages, posts, blogroll, etc....should you not have that so that the main focus is on the internal linking or will the internal linking still work despite the other links being there?

      Or should you have a 1-column that doesn't have widgets/side bars with links so that the attention is on the internal linking being done to boost certain pages?

      I apologize for not understanding the explanation before...just hoping to get clarification.
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    • I hired a couple people on oDesk to do back link building ("white hat" whatever that means) and they worked tirelessly for at least 2 months and I never saw the SLIGHTEST trend increase in traffic... I was quite disappointed and I've completely lost faith in "link building".

      Was I just not patient enough? Are there certain techniques that work better than others?

      Thanks!
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    • Hi Yukon. PM sent .
    • I have started using Angela's backlinks. It takes time to build each link every month.

      I can outsource the work but is it possible to automate the process so that less time is spent every month. Thanks.
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    • very important dont cut corners
    • It's ridiculously important.

      Most overlooked aspect of SEO I believe, especially from linkbuilders perspective.

      Each "page" has its own ability to rank and/or be ranked. Sure, a nice high PR homepage helps, but you MUST backlink your internal pages as well.

      So much "money/rankings" is left on the table by so many people because they overlook backlinking their internal pages.

      My recommendation is as follows:

      30% of links to the homepage
      70% to internal pages
      No more than 3-5 keywords targeted PER page, that includes the homepage
      Don't get ONLY anchor text links, you MUST get links that have absolute URL, image links, etc.

      That's a good start. Pay close attention to your rankings. Then fine tune your backlink strategy based on pages that saw the most increase in ranking. That means if they are on page 1, or page 2, then begin to focus on those keywords/pages.
  • What I observed in many years internet marketing is that some links make signifficantly higher effect than others.

    Backlinks that push your site to first page and first place in Google are:
    - on page with similar topic
    - on domain of high PR and backlinks
    - not too deep in the site

    Of course many weak links make some sort of impact but if you want to rank for competitive terms do it manually (or outsource it) so you know WHERE you have WHAT link set. Stories for children about 100,000s of backlinks from PR9 domain just doesn't deliver strong results.

    Of course, there are allways exceptions. Like the site in attachment that has 99% of forum profiles

    But I do not recommend rely on this.
  • Its a complete procedure you need to make the back link where crawler oftenly visited and original work is done. Like Press releases and content farms.
  • Leave them to be found naturally. Or you can use bookmarking sites like digg, reddit, and others to make i faster. But don't ping, there is no need for that.
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    • Are you sure the comments got approved? or you can also look at your Google account to check if it shows any links from third party sites or not.
  • Just do it naturally and your site will be indexed.
  • @FraserC

    Haha you are definitely a collector. Thanks for the link, I checked it out and it works wonders. Cheers!
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    Hey All - hope you are well? Recently I have been reading about how to get your backlinks indexed etc. Some say it is wise to allow Google to pick them up naturally, then others disagree.......... and say that you must have your backlinks pinged etc, so I am a little confused!