Private High PR Blog Networks...

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I've noticed a lot of talk about High PR Blog Networks. I understand their value and how they can give you good quality backlinks that are in-content which is great.

When I did a search in WF, I ran across a few and they look pretty good. Has anyone had any success with a particular service here on WF that they'd recommend?

With so many choices and the secretive nature of these networks it's hard to tell the real quality networks from the scam/wannabees.

Any thought?
#search engine optimization #blog #high #networks #private
  • How do you find them secretive? BMR is very popular and some services give reports. you have to realize they take a little money to build and Google tends not to like bought links so service providers can't come out and tell someone who isn't even a customer yet where their PR network domains are. It goes with the territory nothing devious. As with most things think Rep.
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    • I think you misunderstood what I meant. I've heard BMR is a great service and I know a lot of people in the forum use it to great success.

      By secretive I meant that most networks don't give reports and don't share sites. I understand that they do this to protect the integrity of their network and keep their sites from being blacklisted by Google. This is why I was wondering which Warrior Forum services offering a network, people have experienced success with.

      I didn't mean it in a negative connotation.
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  • I am thinking of using a network and would like to see what opinions you get.
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  • BuildMyRanks is one that I know of for sure. I think Linkvana is the same principle. Both of those i've heard to be pretty effective. I'm more concerned with the ones that are from Warrior here on the forum.
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  • I vote for Article Marketing Automation, they helped me ranked for many competitive keywords that most high PR sites can't rank.
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    • That is ridiculous. If a bunch of crappy links can do it, then high PR sites can too.
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  • If you decide to use one or the other I would appreciate it if you reported back and let us know. I have debated on the same for a while but have not tried. I just don't trust most of it! good luck and let us know!
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    • You and Anthony are really my favorite.

      Both of you accusing me of selling low quality links, where is the proof? When I post on a thread in the forum or post any useful information, you just start shooting without really know what I'm talking about, that's just personal and not very professional.

      Look at my signature, I only sell 2 things now - Indexing & crawling and Guarantee service. Do you know what is guarantee service? Meaning if my customer don't rank on page 1, I don't get the money!

      My challenge still stand - if you think your so call quality network is so good, until it can outrank every network on the market, your ego ... I don't know how to put this.

      However, if you do agree that every high PR network had it limit, and those established blog network are much powerful because they have more sites, more resources, then I make my point. If you disagree, don't just talk, show me your power, outrank me in the competition.

      If you are not going to proof me your network is more powerful, please keep that network to yourself and stop accusing me selling low quality backlinks and calling me "ridiculous".

      P.S. Mike Anthony will probably go out and find my old service and call it proof.
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  • It might / might not be justify to build a blog network; Anyway, I would prefer to use established blog network service, the only time when I build a private network is either I want to run a service or I have plan to build expand my affiliate sites.
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  • ummmmmmmm..... Quality can be beaten by Quantity.... However I would love to use quality backlinks as they are safe, plenty of to use and take minimum time to rank.
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    • Yes, but they are too strict to be useful to me, and if I have to pay for each unique article just to get a link - it is stupid.

      Spun articles work as well as backlink, I think BMR and Linkvana is overdoing this, unique article will only bring the cost up.

      Please define quality.

      When I say quality vs quantity, I mean high PR vs low PR, both are safe in this case.

      However, when I say quality link, that might means a lot of stuff, such as:

      1. Backlinks with 3 OBL or less
      2. Backlinks with unique spin content
      3. Backlinks with anchor text surrounded by unique / spin content

      The only time when backlink is consider bad for me - a lot of links from this domain to all kinds of low quality links (links that doesn't meet the above 3 conditions), that might cause a problem when Google deindex the site.

      Trust me, I have done this many times, and I know the details about this.

      I agree. This is one way to go for having your own network; although you can rank for many competitive keywords because of limited number of sites, but you still be able to rank for handful of long tail keywords, that's where the real money is.

      As your budget grow with your income, you can expand the network and rank for more keywords, and slowly eliminates the limitation by increasing the number of sites.

      There is another way - you join an established network, eliminates the limitation of small resources, leverage the huge amount of sites from those networks and start ranking for higher competition keywords.

      I don't rely on my own network to rank keywords for my client, or I won't be able to get a lot of clients fast enough because of the limitation of my own private network, instead, I pay a relative small fees to start ranking competitive keywords.

      It doesn't matter which route to go, they will make you money.
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  • Mike, I'm not sure why you keep attacking me while I try to put you in my ignore list. I don't mind if your accusation is true, but WHO KNOW MY OWN BUSINESS MORE THAN ME?

    How many times we throw away a site / page without updating it? I miss the old day when you are reasonable, do you remember what you said about me?



    Are we still friend or should I keep doing this to defend my name?
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    • KK people can say anything. Both Payment processes are live and you are participating in threads where you are selling this. Then you make the ridiculous statement that profile links are just as good as High Pr Blog links. totally ridiculous.

      I am not attacking you . I am however attacking what you are trying to push because many newbies don't know much better and your are preying on their misunderstanding of links.

      Yes there was a time long ago when you were open to learning and made strides to keep up with the changing landscape on google but then you left WF for the most part for a black hattters community and now that they have closed down you are back pushing the same kind of thing s that used to work and no longer do. KK people are getting penalties for some of the things you are suggesting and others just saw their sites tank because of them at the last panda update. I know. I have seen them and a few high pr backlinks brought back a few people that I helped.

      Grow my man. Its not all about the mass way to do things or what makes the most money selling. Its about what really works. Not claiming something that doesn't actually does. Show it in the serps. Everything changes with time and Profile links are now the spammiest weakest links that you can find. You and Marc have so much to learn about SEO and things like PR networks but instead of doing so you go off on your half baked ideas and in the process just mislead a whole pile of people.
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  • Kok I trust you and I do believe Friedman, Anthony and Yukon everyone know the fact very well too.

    Sure 100 PR4 to PR6 backlinks can be easily beaten by 10K PR1 backlinks. But Friedman was quite correct too. He said if stack of crappy backlinks can do the trickery then some quality backlinks(low OBL, relevant, unique content and dofollow) can do it more easily.

    I see you all are just attacking each other for just ego problem! But its a settled issue and no need to debate.
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    • Where? Show it in the serps. Who has 10k PR1s without developing higher PR naturally? What? theres a cap on PR now? Take even a second to think about it. This is not about ego this is about real world and facts. Only an idiot to SEO would build a network with 10,000 sites and not have higher than PR1s and 2s in the process.

      Google is sitting there with millions of serps. If these things are true we don't need long drawn out tests. WE CAN GO TO GOOGLE RIGHT NOW AND LOOK. I've said it often and no one will take it up that argues this - Where is the serp where a site with a ton of high quality High PR links are being beat out by just quantity going after the same anchor text? Long tail sure. Anything can happen there . really competitive stuff? Don't see it anywhere.

      I know two services that push this nonsense and they are both represented in this thread but anytime you ask them to show a single case in the serps they run away.
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  • This is not "Backlink Hydra" age anymore. Forum profile backlinks will hurt moneypage if we use plenty of them. I have noticed these backlinks actually make a webpage insane and webpages start rolling like a "roller coaster" in SERPs. So when I am talking about low quality backlinks I am not talking about "Forum Profile backlinks".

    I would use forum profile backlinks to my t1 and t2 backlinks for just link juice. Eh I purchased xrumer long ago and I dont want to stop using this expensive tool until I see there is no way to use this one. hmmmm I have a 20 years old Honda Cub and I use this one when I go to Grocery!
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  • The moment a new "Blog Network" thread comes up, All the Mikes start running here n' there like headless chickens. LOL, Cool off people! Seriously!
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    • and wherever the Mikes are you can count the seconds for the link spam defenders to show up with some inane remark
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  • I understand the argument on both sides of the coin. High pr blogs generate a lot of juice. So do low pr blogs when bundled in sufficient quantity.

    Low PR blogs get the job done. So use it as a base for your campaigns. Then start linking to your high pr blogs on top of it.

    If "A" works. If "B" also works. Why in the hell would anyone argue against either? Who cares if "A" or "B " is stronger. Does it really matter? They have both been proven to work.

    The obvious solution is be to combine the two together. Use the low pr blogs for bulk and the high pr ones as the protein.

    If link juice was powered by BS or EGO there would be more than enough juice coming from this thread to rank all our sites collectively for the next ten years.
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    • actually shocking to both of us - agreed. These arguments usually break out when one party comes on saying that quantity trumps quality but that was not you in this thread. Now me I would start with the quality because once you have it its then easy to spread it abroad and help out your low pages. Every time I add up what people end up paying for services and software that can never pay them back beyond ranking and compare it to having a few domains with some Pr to work with it always works out long term better out of pocket.

      Has nothing to do with building networks or me teaching people how to build networks. Forget networks. Owning a couple high quality sites to link from opens up all kinds of link building opportunities.
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  • I'm proud to say that I have started building my own personal blog network. I have 15 blogs aged from 3 months to 12 years. The PR ranges from PR0 to PR4. I have them all hosted on different IPs using 4 different hosting companies.

    I use Magic Submitter to post content to them, however, I only need a few articles posted on them since I want to keep the OBLs low. I have removed all footer/theme/software credits in the footer to help keep all unnecessary OBLs off the network.

    I using Magic Submitter (and outsource to fiverr.com) to build backlinks to each blog to make sure they stay healthy.

    Also, I should mention when I buy used domains, I stay away from .info and other low quality domains. I feel that Google will soon see that .infos are the majority being spammed, and discount them more than .coms. Also for resale value (if I ever decide to sale my network, .coms will hold more value).

    Jm2c

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    I'd also like to mention that kkchoon WSO guaranteed first page ranking may be worth a try. You only pay if he succeeds, and if he doesn't you get a crap load of free backlinks. It's only $67 bucks for crying out loud. That's one of the best deals on WF imo.
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    • MS is great for that because you can set up your blogs as their own service and then use the diagrammer to do whatever you want. Good choice.

      Don't know what you are referring to here since the WSO I see clearly requires payment plus KK has his own theory on competition (in quote search results theory) that is and the price ratchets up significantly from $67. Wish you the best with hat but plenty people don't consider it a deal anymore to have a pile of forum links aimed at their money site.
    • Thanks for your kind words.

      Although I can't say for sure, but I think it is very hard for Google to ignore .info domains and slap them all, it will still be valuable for many years, I won't mind keeping them if the price is right.

      May I ask how many sites you have in the network and how much money and time you've spend to build it?

      About the IP diversity, do you put all domains on different IP or share it like a ratio of 5:1 or 10:1?
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  • BMR is a good first choice, and in the meantime try to find other networks, or even build your own network.
  • Not really worried about having your respect. I'm sure I will manage to somehow get by without it. I never made a personal attack. I jumped in when you said this...

    Which seemed to imply that you were saying that high PR sites do not have the same ranking power of low PR sites or sites with no PR at all. I'm sure almost everyone on here would find that statement silly, just as I did. Now if that was not what you meant by your statement, then I apologize for misunderstanding whatever point you were trying to make. If that is what you meant though, then yeah, I do think that is ridiculous. Which is what I said.

    And as for the accusation of selling low quality or crappy links... Call them whatever you want. To me, forum profile links are the lowest form of links you can find. And although you have denied it, it has been pointed out by Yukon and Mike Anthony that you are still maintaining active sales pages for those types of links.

    I personally feel they are awful links. If you feel otherwise, that is fine. That is your opinion. It is not a personal attack though for me to point out that I feel those kinds of links are garbage. It is simply my view of those links.

    And like I said before...

    And I was right.

    If others want to debate the value of low or no PR versus high PR backlinks, that is fine. However, when you give your opinion of the difference between them it is coming from a biased position. Your wallet is directly affected by it. If people believe that these types of links are useless, you lose potential customers. I am not selling any particular type of link packages here or elsewhere. I have no dog in the fight. I could care less what people believe, and to be honest, I would prefer that people believe neither one of us. I would rather see IM'ers test things out for themselves and come to their own conclusions about what works well and what does not work well.

    Instead, far too often, people are just looking for a quick and easy path to success.
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    • Never said that low PR link had the same or even higher power than high PR link, read the rest of my post.

      Are you sure? How many profile links you have been creating? If you never use it before, how do you know?

      If you did use it, did you try my method: Is Profile Link Still Working?

      I have many page 1 ranking using profile link in the pass, and I still think they are capable of doing so, but like I said, they don't last for long now.
  • We should come to a final resolution on this and move on to something much more worthy of our time.

    Why don't we end the debate and instead create one massive collaboration for an SEO service wso offering? We all throw our own brand of link juice into it and we all take a cut of sales.

    Can you imagine the link juice we would generate if we did that?

    This debate is boring and played out to the max.

    OP...I appreciate the kudos. But why start a new thread on the topic when we have been over this a million times already?

    You pimping links? Or do you get warm fuzzies from digging up bones?
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    • After having read most of this thread (and one or two others) I can't help but see that kkchoon and Mike Anthony need to put this debate to rest. Here is what I get from it all:

      both kkchoon and Mike Anthony believe in private blog networks for backlinks and therefore ranking in the SERPs.

      The difference is that kkchoon believes that many lower PR links from a network will outrank fewer higher PR links from a network. Mike Anthony believes the opposite.

      Fair enough, difference of opinion.

      Next, kkchoon does not believe building your own network is always the best idea for everyone, whereas Mike Anthony thinks building your own network makes the most sense financially, and long term.

      Again, simple difference of opinion.

      I think both kkchoon, and Mike Anthony agree that profile links hold little to no value. Only problem here is that kkchoon seems to be selling these links somewhere, which bothers Mike Anthony because it can be misleading, and hurtful to newbs in the business. Apparently kkchoon doesn't seem to be actively promoting this package, and claims to have no current customers for it. This seems pretty harmless to me, but maybe kkchoon should consider removing the offers altogether.

      So, can't we all agree that both low PR blog networks, and high PR blog networks are useful? It may be that building your own network is indeed a very wise choice for cost effectiveness, and future use, but I'm sure there are times when simply buying, or renting links on a network makes sense.

      Anyway, this is what I get from a long thread (or two), so if anyone has any other angles on it, feel free to say something, otherwise, I hope there will be fewer of this type of thread for a while (although I do find them captivating!).
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    • If you're serious, hit me up. I could probably throw about 200+ high PR domains your way for it.
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  • Not selling profile links anymore, that page still rank strong for some keywords in link building, I don't want to waste the ranking, will replace that when I find the alternative link building service to provide.

    Again, is a number game, everyone agrees but diverted the attention to debate. Who had the most link juice in total wins, and AMA is one powerful network in general which almost allows me to dominate any kind of high competition keywords.
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    • Just curious...I could be wrong, but if that page is still ranking well like you say, I'd be willing to bet it's still converting some of the visitors into customers. When they submit the order form, do you just send them a refund and explain that your not selling the links anymore?
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  • Personally, i think if you don't care about quality, the cheapest way is to find a fiverr gig to blast out spun articles to their private blog networks. I've done that in the past with success.
  • I never thought my simple question would start such a wild tangential debate. I think I'm starting out with bmr and will probably try out a warrior forum service after that and see where it takes me.

    Thanks everyone for the input!
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  • LOL, you gotta love this forum. Pure 100% entertainment!
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  • Unfortunately these networks have to be private to prevent their techniques being mad mainstream, because they could easily be penalised by a search engine algorithm if their techniques are known
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  • And exhale! Good debate guys, I've only ever used BMR and it's always delivered, anyone know of other similiar high quality blog networks that are similarly priced?
  • PR2 can be better than a PR4. Depends on the OBLs.

    That's why I like having my own private blog network is because I can control the OBLs. If you pay for the spam networks, the OBLs are ridiculous.

    Here's a good guide - Source
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    • Nice chart, but it doesn't show the trustrank factor here...

      Some website only rank well when they received high PR links because they don't have enough trustrank, but when they do...

      All PR links are equal, no one is better than another, it is the number of links that add up to a level that overrank the other, so if we received enough link juice, we can outrank any other keywords on top position.

      Of course unless Google implemented more new filters, (like trustrank kind of thing) then we have to beat those before we can rank for those keywords.
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  • Merry Christmas Mike!
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    • Hey to you and yours too man! Debates on WF stay on WF. Tell Matt Mike wishes him and the family a merry Christmas too. He'll get a hoot out of it.
  • I'm coming out of my foxhole to ask a newbee question.

    Where do you start in building your own private blog network with high PR? Is there a service I can purchase, because my main keyword "franchise" and my target prospect someone with a 200K net worth minimum, 100K liquid doesn't fall into the IM niches I read and see on this forum?
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    • Despite disagreement with Mike Anthony, he does have a course about this. You may start with learning how to purchase expired domain, how to setup blogs and transfer those expired domains to your new hosting.

      Plus, you need SEO Hosting as well...

      Easier way to start your backlink campaign is to join an Established Blog Network Service like AMA or BMR.
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  • Hey Mike Anthony,

    Why won't you just leave it alone? The easiest way to proof yourself is not by a bunch of theories, get into action and I salute you.

    1. If I'm selling bunch of low PR profile links, how can I guaranteed my customer's ranking? I can use profile links as a mix of links, or anything else as you've quoted in my sales page, why still argue about something that I'm not doing?

    2. If you really are that good, build a network that can outrank my challenge, or go buy one from Mike Grant, he is selling it - Like you said, these are not that expensive to build.

    3. If the powerful high PR private network is expansive to build, why bother argue with me when I said it is not that cost effective to build one when you can't fully leverage it? I would use the established blog network service instead.

    If you are so protective with your network until you need me to put 10K into escrow to start the challenge, you just proved my point #3.

    If you keep debating this and avoid my challenge, I'll let the Warriors to judge this, I don't have a conclusion for you...

    BTW, wish You and the Warriors a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

    Kok Choon
  • Merry Christmas backlinkers! Take time out to enjoy the day!
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  • Let's settle this issue once and for all with an arm wrestling competition. Winner of the tourney gets to have the last word on this topic. Agreed?
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  • I bought a private blog network blast on fiverr.com last week, submitting to like 5,000 private blogs on different IPs.

    I'm already seeing a ton of backlinks using spyglass. for $5 bucks, that's a good deal. I think Matt is charging like $50 for the same service.

    I wouldn't discourage anyone using them if they are cheap.
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  • Can't anyone just take kkchoon's challenge and make this thread a learning experience for everyone?
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    • A) its KK that has yet to meet the challenge. We have an agreement between us for him to rank top three for "backlinks".

      B) if you are referring to the challenge to put a private network against profile links - dream on. Its a nonsense challenge and he knows it.

      Why? PRofile links are just spamming other sites where he has no money invested. I would LOVE to do a case study on here putting a SEO network against profile links, SenukeX other networks etc. It would be the easiest case study ever - just one problem.

      I and others with private networks DO have money invested. Every single domain we use in the case study would be exposed for deindexing. Deindexing is when Google discovers domains and removes them permanently from their database. The domain becomes absolutely useless and the money and time to set up goes down the drain. Why would anyone do that just to settle an issue on a forum? Why would someone insist on a challenge that only one side will lose money on?

      Furthermore Mods here for the same good reason routinely delete threads that expose networks.

      On top of it all it wouldn't be a learning experience for everybody. As you can see in this thread most people already know what KK is pushing is garbage.
  • Mike is right on the money with this. When you set up your own blog network the last thing you want to do is expose your links to the world just to demonstrate your juice was stronger than xrumer links. There would be no upside to it whatsoever.
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    • Hey Matt, Mike makes everyone to believe I'm using XRumer blast, and again - I'm using establish blog network services, which is cheaper to join and much cost effective in most cases, won't you agree?

      Mike loves to debate with people about building own private network had the similar if not better link juice, I would say otherwise, so he keep attacking me and accusing me doing Profile link blast.

      To be frank, I don't know how many profile link sites still available out there, if you ask any XRumer guy to join the competition, I doubt he can make it on page 3 of "backlink" !

      Bottom line, if I don't have a lot of sites to rank, I will save the time and money just to join a network or services.
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  • Spammy links do work for keywords with no competition.

    But if you have just 10 good PR links in a low competition niche you will outrank every **** out there.

    You can take the short way or the long and exhausting way... It's your choice.
  • Bottom line, using private network not only need to protect the links, the ranking power is limited and never dare to response to a challenge.

    Like I said again and again, private network is great, but only if you have a lot of sites to rank, and they are expensive to build - like Mike admitted by avoiding my challenge. I'm still using AMA, Articleranks for the competition, he don't dare to proof himself because his network is so precious while I'm using an open network.

    He contradict all his believes -

    Private Network is cheap to build : While so protective until want me to put 10K in the escrow just to join the competition.

    I still think established network is the way to go unless you have many sites to rank or - you are providing a service.

    Join any network, and you can take on Mike Anthony anytime.
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    • Boring.

      Just lies lies and more lies. If theres anything people know and either hate or love I ALWAYS respond . We agreed on a challenge for "backlinks". You rank top three with your own site and I'll pay you to if you hit top three. I made it very clear and others agree that it makes no sense for me to expose my network. I certainly won't do it to show I am better than an alleged SEO that only uses other peoples service and not any of his own resources, who claims search results in quote is a measure of competition for a phrase, that profile backlinks if they stick are just as good as High PR blog links and who states that OBL does not matter (what a comedy of obvious SEO errors?).

      After that anyone with half a brain already knows whose the more knowledgeable SEO. My point? Theres just no upside whatsoever to exposing even a single domain to prove what needs no more proof. You shot yourself in the foot so often theres no question who understands SEO more.


      More lies. You are stacking them up. I admitted nothing of the sort I've stated several times in this thread why no one will expose any size network to be deindexed.


      Silliness - think I really think you would pay that. It was merely a way of expressing to you that theres no way anyone would risk even a $100 bucks simply to take on your silly challenge regarding forum backlinks you were making in that thread.

      Well of course since OBL and your links sliding off any page with Pr do not matter. ROFL.
  • Question for those who know...

    there is a tech domain for sale on Godaddy that's a PR4 with over 5,500 backlinks. The auction closes in like an hour and it's up to $12 bucks.

    People are avoiding it because 90% of the backlinks are spam (mixed with some high quality) backlinks. The spam links are promoting keywords like "Viagra". Apparently someone is trying to get the site banned by google, or it was hacked or something...

    Would you also avoid a PR4 .com domain for cheap because of spam backlinks?
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    • For $17? No but I would have to be sure about the other links that they were legit
  • Hey Mike and Warriors,

    Since you and many here are worry about exposing your network, I do hope someone can point me some resources to expose someone's network.

    I know Majestic SEO had they own crawler, but even with that is not possible to find all the sites, may be just some of them.

    Anyone who know and share how to expose a network would great appreciated.

    Kok Choon

    P.S. Mike, you still contradict your believes.
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    • ROFL. So whats up KK? Ran into some problems in a serp where your services can't beat the site with the network? Why look up their network just blow them out of the water with the network services you use that beats any other networks out there?

      Given the claims in this thread thats just too funny.
    • Sorry for interrupting here ...
      I dont really know what blog networks are. (But i want to know) Are you guys talking about blogs that they update, i guess on hourly basis, and in each article got lots of anchor text back links to different websites.
      I use majestic seo, i was analyzing one of my competitor and found that he got links from these kind of blogs. They have a different section or category for that thing. For example

      http://sitename.com/articles/
      http://sitename.com/articlearchive/
      http://sitename.com/articledirectory/
      http://sitename.com/affiliatearticles/

      I want to know how to get backlinks from those blog networks?
      Which ones do you use?
      The guy is having 1719 back links from 588 referring domains.
      And most of them are ranging from PR1 to PR3.
  • Lol, yet another Mike Anthony knows everything thread.. Priceless!
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    • LOL. Yet another link spammer/low quality link seller I hate Mike Anthony post.

      Comes with the territory
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    • Jinx the back story on you is You are here because I wouldn't let it go uncontested when you blamed some poor guy in the senukeX got me penalized thread that it was his fault and only his fault. You claimed that senukeX holds no responsibility whatsoever despite including a template known to create problems with Google. You call my defense of the poor guy an attack because your couldn't hold your points up. I'll admit I didn't go easy but then you didn't either. you put it all on the OP and I defended him. Wear it like a badge of honor.

      Wow. if only they were words lived by. Thats incredibly ironic since we would never had ANY disagreement if you had not insisted on putting down the OP in that thread by implying it was all his fault for getting a penalty.

      Who else? I've had threads where there were ten guys coming at me for me critiquing link spam tools. Is this all you guys got?

      Incidentally any comments about the OP and the thread subject? lol
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    • Ya know, you people in this section are worse than the copywriters. If I have to start adding to my moderating time to come in here and watch for this personal crap, I'm not going to be mellow about it. I will start banning people wholesale.

      I don't very much care if you have WSOs running at the time. So consider that before you start taking shots at other members. Paying to advertise here does not make you exempt from the rules.

      And you new folks with nothing invested in the forum and no names attached will go all in one swell foop. I have very little tolerance for anonymous snipers in a conversation.

      Debate techniques all you want. That's the function of the forum. Skip the ongoing feuds.


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    • I disagree with this statement. PR does not just disappear because a domain changes hands. If the links remain, so does the PR. If the links disappear, so will the PR. A domain could change ownership 5 times a year. That will have no direct effect on the PR.

      Also, adding fresh content has nothing to do with PR.
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    • Ditto so now we are on track and my night has freed up.


      Wheres the serps with people just ranking top 3 on PR N/A web 2.0s? Imers have to be reduced to running down long tail with little traffic. Not real life.

      You are just making this up. I have bought many domains in the last 6 months and they do not lose PR like you claim. There are countless people who are actually active in buying domains that would find that extremely funny and they include service providers we have already talked about. When last did you actually buy a Domain with Pr?

      They are on record as stating this is not done plus their are legal and privacy issues for a regstrar to just bypass whois privacy for their own business interests that Google would be opening themselves up to.
  • I'm sorta concerned that Google is going to crack down on people buying aged domains for PR. They don't want the serps manipulated no matter how it's done. Do you think they won't do anything about it?
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    • Theres lots of thing that Google doesn't like and they will potentially do something about. Links on pages with lots of spun content, hundreds or thousands of low quality links pointing at sites, article direcories , bookmarking etc. theres not a thing that anyone of us is doing that might not be targeted by Google next.

      Right now thats not likely to be high quality PR pages. Right now the algo is going after low quality links from what I have seen. Plenty of people have got warnings for them and been slapped hard by Panda with them. Few High Pr links yeah even from bought domains have brought people back. So the writing is on the wall not for aged domains with Pr but the other lower caliber links
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    • You just don't understand the issues. Understandable because you didn't enter this thread to debate the issues in it. Whois information consists of IP, age, nameservers etc. It DOES NOT with privacy bought relate to ownership details. So yes Google and many other services utilize whois information but it is of no significance to domain buying because the issue there is who owns the domain. You are just pretending to know what google does and pretending to know whether Google will violate privacy issues with legal ramifications. Its classic conspiracy theory that is rebutted by the fact that if Google did do such things no SEO network on the planet would work (or the really big ones would go Puff in the night) in Google and they most certainly do.

      OF course it does. totally invalidates it . You have never bought a domain and you are claiming what happens when you buy one even claiming to know surely what does. Like I said you do not understand the issues. The second article talks about simple issues related to buying domains that all regular domain buyers understand and has nothing to do with Google being a registrar. I did read it. All of those things on the page would be immaterial if Google was going into private whois information. Changing content and putting the site up ASAP has nothing, zip to so with whois information.

      Thing is though I don't even get the point. Like I said theres no link building strategy that google might tag in the future. They may well change the algo entirely next year. SO what? we site around looking at each other until then? .

      Don't use BMR because it might go down In the future?
      Maybe we will all go social in a year so lets not build any links?

      Whats the point really?
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  • anyone have experience with creating major brand (wordpress, blogspot, etc..) web2.0 sites, adding unique LSI content with your anchor text to your money site embedded in the article, then throw about 50k low quality links at each 2.0 blog and just forget about the campaign? -- then repeat these steps all over again in a new campaign..

    In my mind, that seems like a no-brainer blog network method for those who can't afford to build their own.

    I personally have not tried it that elaborately though...
    Thoughts?
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    • I'm been using a blog network service for the last 3 months that helped a lot, but I'll probably cancel next month.

      The fiverr gig I mentioned in another post gave me a good start on my own. They created a linkwheel (open) with these 2.0 sites:

      wikispaces.com
      webs.com
      tripod.com
      weebly.com
      posterous.com
      jimdo.com
      livejournal.com
      multiply.com
      orbs.com
      yolasite.com
      onsugar.com
      blog.com

      I'm going to build on this by adding content for a couple of my other sites and also add a few more blogs to this list. Then I will start adding backlinks to these sites.
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  • If a bunch of crappy links can do it, then high PR sites can too.
  • BMR is a good first choice, and in the meantime try to find other networks, or even build your own network.
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