How 1 Keyword and 25 hours Makes me $2-3K passive income per month

by qrp
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I'm not going to give away the keyword or my sites so please don't ask. This method (if you want to call it that) is to give you motivation.

I do keyword research by sorting through long lists of keywords and seeing exact searches per month for them. I sort out ones that are less than 50,000 searches per month. Now I have a good searched keyword list.

But...

I don't want to spend 24 hours a day doing SEO for a site so now I use Google to see how many results there are for each of the keywords. Anything with 5 million or more results i discard because I dont want to struggle in the SEO game.

Now...

I have a nice list of highly searched keywords that have low competition.

This was the hard part. Most people will ask how I got my keyword list. I will share my strategy...
- Get a list of every word in the dictionary. Use Excel. Combine words into 2 or 3 keyword phrases.
- Scrape articles. Take each word in an article and look it up as its own keyword. Take every 2 and every 3 words in a row and look them up as a keyword phrase.

If you have some cash you can get someone to create a simple app for you to automate this. It is well worth it as it saves you a ton of time.

Ok, so beginning of this year I stumbled onto a very nice find, 350,000 EXACT searches per month and 200,000 results in Google. This is easy money goldmine. CPC is crap, only $0.05 per click, but if you have volume than you will have cash in your pocket soon.

I created a site and had it ranked on first page of Google within a week. I created 4 more sites and had them ranked on first page of Google within a month. Now I own first page of Google. All on different IPs, all on a slightly different focus of the keyword, and all using same Adsense code. My sites are simple wordpress based sites (each has a different theme), with 10 unique articles per site. Took about 5 hours per site to set up and write articles. I only use one adsense box, a 250x250 text box above each article and on homepage above homepage article.

Now, this keyword generates me $2-3k per month in passive Adsense revenue. I have not touched anything on the sites since the first month I set them up. This is not the norm, I am normally happy to set one keyword up to drive $100-150 per month.

Point of post is to share a little strategy but more importantly to help motivate you because with good keyword research you can literally write your own checks. And when you make money, don't blow it on partying and girls, reinvest it to automate the work you are doing and diversify. When you are at the mid $XX,XXX range per month, then you can start spending some on wasteful activities.

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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I don't want to spend 24 hours a day doing SEO for a site so now I use Google to see how many results there are for each of the keywords. Anything with 5 million or more results i discard because I dont want to struggle in the SEO game.
    That has nothing to do with ranking a page.

    Why would you care who has a page sitting on page #97 in the SERPs?

    The #1 guy is your competition, regardless If 1 or 500 trillion results are returned.

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    Here is why those millions of pages mean nothing as far as seo goes.

    This search returns 12.3 million results, yet not a single web page is targeting the search phrase (zero keyword competition):

    pork chops taste like chicken when it's raining

    Google will most times return SERP results regardless If competition exist or doesn't exist, unless you put the search phrase in quotes. The average searcher doesn't use quotes..
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      That has nothing to do with ranking a page.

      Why would you care who has a page sitting on page #97 in the SERPs?

      The #1 guy is your competition, regardless If 1 or 500 trillion results are returned.
      I agree at first blush with your comment, but then I think about it and realize I very much disagree.

      Because if there is a high volume of competition today that means that tomorrow could come along new sites into the competition that are heavy hitters. With a low volume of competition today it is not a keyword that you would anticipate heavy hitters going after in the future. If you are only thinking about who is on page 1 today you are being shortsighted, you need to consider if people will want to be on page 1 for that keyword tomorrow.

      Think about it this way, do you want to enter a foot race against 500 people or against 50 people? Because next year those races may then have 1,000 people and 52 people. And year after that it may have 1,700 people and 54 people.

      So whoever is ranked #1 today most likely won't be ranked #1 next year because there is always someone else out there working 24/7 to become #1.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by qrp View Post

        I agree at first blush with your comment, but then I think about it and realize I very much disagree.

        Because if there is a high volume of competition today that means that tomorrow could come along new sites into the competition that are heavy hitters. With a low volume of competition today it is not a keyword that you would anticipate heavy hitters going after in the future. If you are only thinking about who is on page 1 today you are being shortsighted, you need to consider if people will want to be on page 1 for that keyword tomorrow.

        Think about it this way, do you want to enter a foot race against 500 people or against 50 people? Because next year those races may then have 1,000 people and 52 people. And year after that it may have 1,700 people and 54 people.

        So whoever is ranked #1 today most likely won't be ranked #1 next year because there is always someone else out there working 24/7 to become #1.

        You are completely wrong in this. The number of listings has NOTHING to do with the level of competition. "Purple eared elephants" returns over 7 million listings. Must be a ****load of money in there, right? Wrong!

        Your competition is page one. You have 10 sites you are competing with. Really the top 3 are what matters.

        You need to stop reading silly WSO's that tell you otherwise.
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        • Profile picture of the author qrp
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          You are completely wrong in this. The number of listings has NOTHING to do with the level of competition. "Purple eared elephants" returns over 7 million listings. Must be a ****load of money in there, right? Wrong!

          Your competition is page one. You have 10 sites you are competing with. Really the top 3 are what matters.

          You need to stop reading silly WSO's that tell you otherwise.
          I think you are wrong. Try step 1 first. Find 50k+ exact searches. Then show me the weak competition. I don't read WSO's. I've been making six figures consistently for 3 years doing this strategy. And I'm trying to share it with people who need some guidance... yet for some reason I'm here battling people who obviously are not as well versed.

          If anyone has an intelligent question I will try to answer it. As to foolish comments I'm not responding to them anymore.
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          • Profile picture of the author Spiderbug
            Originally Posted by qrp View Post

            I think you are wrong. Try step 1 first. Find 50k+ exact searches. Then show me the weak competition. I don't read WSO's. I've been making six figures consistently for 3 years doing this strategy. And I'm trying to share it with people who need some guidance... yet for some reason I'm here battling people who obviously are not as well versed.

            If anyone has an intelligent question I will try to answer it. As to foolish comments I'm not responding to them anymore.
            Well, thanks for the insight, I am a newbie - but would love to be mentored by you to achieve a fraction of your income!...Making that kind of money on this method makes you someone to be regonised in my eyes...Power to you...if you ever feel like proving some of this...I am available and will share - no problem... Cheers! remember to enjoy some of that financial freedom!
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      This search returns 12.3 million results, yet not a single web page is targeting the search phrase (zero exact keyword competition):

      pork chops taste like chicken when it's raining

      Google will most times return SERP results regardless If competition exist or doesn't exist, unless you put the search phrase in quotes. The average searcher doesn't use quotes..
      This is not valid example. It would have been sorted out in step 1 when i check exact searches.

      Show me a keyword phrase with 50,000 exact searches per month where you have 12.3 million results and the competition is super light as in your example? High exact searches will always produce quality results unless you find the golden nugget. Instead of searching for a 10 pound nugget which I may never find, I eliminate the 5 million or more result keywords and go after the 1 pound nuggets because they add up to 10 pounds eventually and I can have them today.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by qrp View Post

        This is not valid example. It would have been sorted out in step 1 when i check exact searches.

        Show me a keyword phrase with 50,000 exact searches per month where you have 12.3 million results and the competition is super light as in your example? High exact searches will always produce quality results unless you find the golden nugget. Instead of searching for a 10 pound nugget which I may never find, I eliminate the 5 million or more result keywords and go after the 1 pound nuggets because they add up to 10 pounds eventually and I can have them today.
        It's 100% valid!

        My point is those SERP result numbers are totally useless & have nothing to do with seo (any real seo knows this already).

        I just showed you 12.3 million reasons why those SERP numbers are bogus. If that's not proof, no other search will help.
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    • Profile picture of the author nickhumph
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      That has nothing to do with ranking a page.

      Why would you care who has a page sitting on page #97 in the SERPs?

      The #1 guy is your competition, regardless If 1 or 500 trillion results are returned.

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      Here is why those millions of pages mean nothing as far as seo goes.

      This search returns 12.3 million results, yet not a single web page is targeting the search phrase (zero keyword competition):

      pork chops taste like chicken when it's raining

      Google will most times return SERP results regardless If competition exist or doesn't exist, unless you put the search phrase in quotes. The average searcher doesn't use quotes..

      so how do you check for competition then? What's the best way, just looking at the top 10 and beating them with more backlinking, article writing, etc then they're doing?
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      • Profile picture of the author outwest
        Originally Posted by nickhumph View Post

        so how do you check for competition then? What's the best way, just looking at the top 10 and beating them with more backlinking, article writing, etc then they're doing?
        yup.........backlinks to page to top 10 competing sites would be a good start
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    • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      That has nothing to do with ranking a page.

      Why would you care who has a page sitting on page #97 in the SERPs?

      The #1 guy is your competition, regardless If 1 or 500 trillion results are returned.
      I was going to say the exact same thing. However, kudos to the OP for having success.

      Just a reminder to people are fairly new to keyword research, SEO, etc, don't worry about overall competition. See if you can beat the top 3 competition. If so, get to work.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Awesome keyword you came up with, makes me hungry.

      You're, indeed, right.

      I usually illustrate like this:

      Would you fight 2 people who happen to be Bruce Lee level martial artists or
      would you rather take on 5,000,000 3-month old babies? (Note: no babies are ever harmed in my illustrations).

      I have yet to come across someone who'd pick the Bruce Lee type adversaries. Even though there's only 2 of 'em. So, why do people not see it when it's SEO?

      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      That has nothing to do with ranking a page.

      Why would you care who has a page sitting on page #97 in the SERPs?

      The #1 guy is your competition, regardless If 1 or 500 trillion results are returned.

      [edit]
      Here is why those millions of pages mean nothing as far as seo goes.

      This search returns 12.3 million results, yet not a single web page is targeting the search phrase (zero keyword competition):

      pork chops taste like chicken when it's raining

      Google will most times return SERP results regardless If competition exist or doesn't exist, unless you put the search phrase in quotes. The average searcher doesn't use quotes..
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    • Profile picture of the author solado
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      That has nothing to do with ranking a page.

      Why would you care who has a page sitting on page #97 in the SERPs?

      The #1 guy is your competition, regardless If 1 or 500 trillion results are returned.

      [edit]
      Here is why those millions of pages mean nothing as far as seo goes.

      This search returns 12.3 million results, yet not a single web page is targeting the search phrase (zero keyword competition):

      pork chops taste like chicken when it's raining

      Google will most times return SERP results regardless If competition exist or doesn't exist, unless you put the search phrase in quotes. The average searcher doesn't use quotes..
      You lie, warrior forums is now rank 1# for that keyword
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  • Profile picture of the author lovboa
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    How is your ctr using only that small text ad above the content?
    Good? bad?

    Is there a reason you only use that small unit alone and not others, and not multiple ad units?
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by lovboa View Post

      How is your ctr using only that small text ad above the content?
      Good? bad?

      Is there a reason you only use that small unit alone and not others, and not multiple ad units?
      20% CTR on average.

      I actually believe people are more likely to click on an ad if you only have one Adsense spot versus if you have 3 spots. When you have 3 spots it looks like ads. When you have 1 spot, to me, it seems to blend in better with the site, look more naturally, look more non-ad-spammy.


      And I am not ranked #1 in Google. I have #2, 3, 5, and then two more spots that are always shifting between 6-10. I won't ever get to #1 because the #1 spot has so many natural backlinks I won't be able to top it, but that doesn't mean I still can't cash in. And I know due to low competition that I don't have to worry about people in future coming in and attempting to knock me down from my spots.
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      • Profile picture of the author lovboa
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        Originally Posted by qrp View Post

        20% CTR on average.

        I actually believe people are more likely to click on an ad if you only have one Adsense spot versus if you have 3 spots. When you have 3 spots it looks like ads. When you have 1 spot, to me, it seems to blend in better with the site, look more naturally, look more non-ad-spammy.
        Wow ~20% is really great.
        I'd love to take a look at your site or at least your site layout
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
    Regardless of whether or not your competition analysis is right or wrong - what matters is that you are making bank. Your methods are working for you and that's what counts!

    Congratulations! I find your methods of keyword research really interesting (definitely something to look into for me).

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Eleva8 View Post

      Regardless of whether or not your competition analysis is right or wrong - what matters is that you are making bank. Your methods are working for you and that's what counts!

      Congratulations! I find your methods of keyword research really interesting (definitely something to look into for me).

      Thanks!
      Nothing wrong with that. The point that is being missed is that there is probably a ton of money being left on the table in keywords that are extremely viable but being eliminated using a metric that tells you nothing.
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      • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        Nothing wrong with that. The point that is being missed is that there is probably a ton of money being left on the table in keywords that are extremely viable but being eliminated using a metric that tells you nothing.
        What stuck out for me in the OP is the approach to keyword research... I already have a few ideas floating around in my head based on that approach.

        The OP obviously has a large list of keywords that fits his criteria and even though I don't analyze comp. the way he does I'm not going to argue with his methods as they have proven effective for him.
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  • Profile picture of the author rknuppel
    Thanks for the post. Wow, very motivating honestly. I have some keywords in mind as well that I may try to dominate the top 10 for Good luck to me I guess... Keep up the good work.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Like Mike said, If you based you research on SERP result numbers chances are high your overlooking good keywords that possibly have little competition.

    Those SERP result numbers are an illusion, they serve no purpose for seo.
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    If only my google adsense account wasn't banned, damn!! I missed those days where you can easily earn through adsense as an additional income.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Hart
    Think about it this way, do you want to enter a foot race against 500 people or against 50 people? Because next year those races may then have 1,000 people and 52 people. And year after that it may have 1,700 people and 54 people.
    That makes no sense what so ever??

    So whoever is ranked #1 today most likely won't be ranked #1 next year because there is always someone else out there working 24/7 to become #1.
    That's the same if there are 30mil competing pages today or just 20.

    Do you think the keyword "ipod" was competitive before Oct 2001?? Who knows what tomorrow brings, concern yourself with today.

    Bottom line........ number of competing sites DOES NOT MATTER, its just above the fold comp you need to consider.

    what matters is that you are making bank. Your methods are working for you and that's what counts!
    Really? With the info he's giving out? allegedly making bank

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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Think about it this way, do you want to enter a foot race against 500 people or against 50 people?

      Originally Posted by Andy Hart View Post

      That makes no sense what so ever??
      That's the same if there are 30mil competing pages today or just 20.
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      You are absolutely right. If that made sense, then everyone would
      want in on the 8 man race for the 200M in the Olympics. After
      all, only 8 runners right? Must be a snap. Bring on Bolt! I'm ready!

      Thing is, only a handful of runners have a chance at winning the
      Boston Marathon, with tons of entrants, and the Olympics with
      a much, much smaller field. Total entries is of no consequence.

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        Think about it this way, do you want to enter a foot race against 500 people or against 50 people?



        You are absolutely right. If that made sense, then everyone would
        want in on the 8 man race for the 200M in the Olympics. After
        all, only 8 runners right? Must be a snap. Bring on Bolt! I'm ready!

        Thing is, only a handful of runners have a chance at winning the
        Boston Marathon, with tons of entrants, and the Olympics with
        a much, much smaller field. Total entries is of no consequence.

        Paul
        I can hook you up with some shoes that will make you run faster.

        Let me know, I'll send you my Amazon affiliate link, lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Like Mike said, If you based you research on SERP result numbers chances are high your overlooking good keywords that possibly have little competition.

      Those SERP result numbers are an illusion, they serve no purpose for seo.
      Not going to argue this point. If you would rather compete against 25 million sites instead of competing against 2 million sites for a high volumed searched phrase go ahead. I am talking based on my first hand experience which works well for me.


      Originally Posted by lovboa View Post

      Wow ~20% is really great.
      I'd love to take a look at your site or at least your site layout
      I already told you exact placement and ad type.

      Originally Posted by Andy Hart View Post

      That makes no sense what so ever??



      That's the same if there are 30mil competing pages today or just 20.

      Do you think the keyword "ipod" was competitive before Oct 2001?? Who knows what tomorrow brings, concern yourself with today.

      Bottom line........ number of competing sites DOES NOT MATTER, its just above the fold comp you need to consider.



      Really? With the info he's giving out? allegedly making bank

      Take Care
      Concerning yourself with "today" wont bring sustainable passive income so i will concern myself with tomorrow and keep accumulating my passive income.

      Yes, i allegedly do well, i am really here to promote the link in my signature and then hype my soon to come ebook that i'll sell. {sarcasm}
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    Do purple eared elephants eat pork chops that taste like chicken when it's raining?
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    I agree number of competiting pages makes no difference

    however
    by hook or crook

    if what the op is saying as far as how much time he took to make the site
    and how much he makes per month is true

    he is laughing all the way to the bank
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  • Profile picture of the author patrich
    I will stay out of the argument about the keyword research portion of this, because, I am the "If it works for you, then do it" type of person. Everyone has their own theories and processes of how to choose a keyword so it is pointless to argue.

    What has me interested though, is that you claim to have ranked for a 350,000 exact match, search term inside of a week and then went on to ranking several other sites for the same term within a month.

    Having gone after search terms with this type of traffic in the past, it is no easy task. Generally speaking, the more traffic a search term has, the more competition you have trying to get their piece of the pie, which tends to make them more difficult to rank for, at least in my previous experience.

    Would love to hear what types of "methods" you were using to rank these sites in such a short time frame.
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    I guess that we have to take your word for it.....as far as the income you say you're making monthly with .....what...one keyword?

    I'm guessing that you got extremely lucky on picking this keyword and are getting a ton of traffic..like $100 per day it looks like....with adsense revenue. If it is only 1 keyword then that is incredible.

    Below that comment you say that $100 a month is the norm with one keyword....which sounds more believable. And those are the results that I'm used to experiencing.

    But hey congrats bro....maybe you should create a product and sell it as WSO.

    I've purchased similar WSO on adsense techniques and they are similar in that they teach you how to build small sniper sites with low competition and then have unique articles on them with only a few links....but the main element is having a bunch of sites. On diff C class blocks (ips) and all generating small monthly income each...but when you add them all up it's worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Ya the only thing that gets me is the OP is saying he dominates the first page of google for a 350k per month KW

    doesnt sound plausible

    However I have found 20k a month kws that have ZERO competition I mean like 5 backlinks on the pages for spots 1,2,3 so I guess its possible but

    lot of difference between 20k a month and 350k a month words
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by patrich View Post

      I will stay out of the argument about the keyword research portion of this, because, I am the "If it works for you, then do it" type of person. Everyone has their own theories and processes of how to choose a keyword so it is pointless to argue.

      What has me interested though, is that you claim to have ranked for a 350,000 exact match, search term inside of a week and then went on to ranking several other sites for the same term within a month.

      Having gone after search terms with this type of traffic in the past, it is no easy task. Generally speaking, the more traffic a search term has, the more competition you have trying to get their piece of the pie, which tends to make them more difficult to rank for, at least in my previous experience.

      Would love to hear what types of "methods" you were using to rank these sites in such a short time frame.
      1. Proper onsite seo focused on main keyword, the usual, page title, h1 h2 tags, keyword velocity, intersite page linking, etc
      2. Unique articles, not spun, hand written by me
      3. Backlinks - good mix - blog comment, forum, article submission, profile, all to money site, and then a round 2 submission pointing to my first set of backlinks (link juice pushing)
      4. Facebook likes

      Nothing fancy, nothing in depth...

      You can get on first page of google sometimes in 2 or 3 days with good building and weak competition in google.
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  • Profile picture of the author london710
    very inspiring. can i ask which themes do you use to get a 20% ctr? and which link colours of ads?
    im struggling to get more than 5-10% ctr with ctrtheme and clickbump themes. Do you think your high ctr is because of the niche, is it a product niche?

    cheers,
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      Think about it this way, do you want to enter a foot race against 500 people or against 50 people?



      You are absolutely right. If that made sense, then everyone would
      want in on the 8 man race for the 200M in the Olympics. After
      all, only 8 runners right? Must be a snap. Bring on Bolt! I'm ready!

      Thing is, only a handful of runners have a chance at winning the
      Boston Marathon, with tons of entrants, and the Olympics with
      a much, much smaller field. Total entries is of no consequence.

      Paul
      All else being equal you would do better to compete against 8 than against 500... Unless you have more than 24 hours in a day and can assess the strength of all 508 people.

      How do you take a list of millions of keywords and shrink it down to a doable target list? I told u how. But have fun alalyzing the seo strength of each competitor for the millions of keywords, cuz by the time you are done i'll have sustainable passive income already hitting my direct deposit for many months.


      Originally Posted by london710 View Post

      very inspiring. can i ask which themes do you use to get a 20% ctr? and which link colours of ads?
      im struggling to get more than 5-10% ctr with ctrtheme and clickbump themes. Do you think your high ctr is because of the niche, is it a product niche?

      cheers,
      kas
      My ctr in this specific example relates to the niche.

      Let me give you a somewhat abstract tip... If someone lands on your site looking for something, but you don't give it to them (or you do not satisfy them) but there are links (adsense) which hopefully are enticing the person can:
      A. Return to google and search again
      Or
      B: click a link

      If you apply this theory you will never see 1% or 2% click through rate again.
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  • Profile picture of the author oscarmike
    interesting thread, i first thought that the "negative" comments were just made to bash on the TS but watching the thread develop into a very good debate, i realized that each have very valid arguments.
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  • Profile picture of the author BigNorm
    I like your approach to keyword research and have been doing something, or trying, something similar where I have a program where I can combine lists. I take action keywords and add them to a long list of dictionary words and just let them run. As of yet haven't quite mastered it but time and perseverance and taking a couple of your tips I'll find an easier way to find valuable niches.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    yes but here is a question
    this all sounds great

    but
    what are the backlinks to page for the top 10 sites when you started this, (competition top 10)

    that will tell us how competitive the competition really was
    saying well this kw gets x 1000 searches per month exact, doesnt tell us much
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      yes but here is a question
      this all sounds great

      but
      what are the backlinks to page for the top 10 sites when you started this, (competition top 10)

      that will tell us how competitive the competition really was
      saying well this kw gets x 1000 searches per month exact, doesnt tell us much
      You dont get it, with large keyword lists you need to whittle them down somehow. I choose to do it by the number of exact searches and then whittle down again by the number of results in google.

      Tell me how long using the seo competition analyzer of market samuri would It take to use on 50,000 keywords. Probably months.
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      • Profile picture of the author outwest
        Originally Posted by qrp View Post

        You dont get it, with large keyword lists you need to whittle them down somehow. I choose to do it by the number of exact searches and then whittle down again by the number of results in google.

        Tell me how long using the seo competition analyzer of market samuri would It take to use on 50,000 keywords. Probably months.
        so even today you dont know your competitions backlinks?
        on that kw? or those few kws you are ranking on you said you OWN the top 10 on google so that must be for just one kw?
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        • Profile picture of the author qrp
          Originally Posted by outwest View Post

          so even today you dont know your competitions backlinks?
          on that kw? or those few kws you are ranking on you said you OWN the top 10 on google so that must be for just one kw?
          Read my prior posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlphaWarrior
    While I agree that your main competition are the top 10 in serps, I also see a lot of value in looking at the total competition shown on G. I look at it as a short cut method.

    The more competition the more likely that the top 10 will be highly seo'ed. The less competition, more likely that the top 10 will not have spent much time on seo, at least not much time for that particular keyword.

    Rather than take time to over analyze, qrp can quickly determine whether or a keyword is worth pursuing.
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior View Post

      While I agree that your main competition are the top 10 in serps, I also see a lot of value in looking at the total competition shown on G. I look at it as a short cut method.

      The more competition the more likely that the top 10 will be highly seo'ed. The less competition, more likely that the top 10 will not have spent much time on seo, at least not much time for that particular keyword.

      Rather than take time to over analyze, qrp can quickly determine whether or a keyword is worth pursuing.
      Thanks, at least one person gets it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
        Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior View Post

        While I agree that your main competition are the top 10 in serps, I also see a lot of value in looking at the total competition shown on G. I look at it as a short cut method.

        The more competition the more likely that the top 10 will be highly seo'ed. The less competition, more likely that the top 10 will not have spent much time on seo, at least not much time for that particular keyword.

        Rather than take time to over analyze, qrp can quickly determine whether or a keyword is worth pursuing.
        Originally Posted by qrp View Post

        Thanks, at least one person gets it.
        It makes some sense by that logic, although what the others said about leaving money on the table still stands true.

        Even if you whittle your list down this way, you should be doing an analysis of the top 10 results, on and off-page or else you're going to run into a bunch of KW/competition you're not ready to compete with.
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    How many times has the same point been repeated over and over in this thread?
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    • Profile picture of the author Loloy Diango
      Hi qrp,

      I appreciate your intention to be of help to fellow marketers by sharing your method of hunting profitable, easy-to-rank niche keywords.

      And so your share wouldn't be wasted, I want to give your method a try. However, before proceeding, can you please clarify the following:


      Originally Posted by qrp View Post

      I sort out ones that are less than 50,000 searches per month.
      Do you choose keywords with up to a maximum of 50,000 exact monthly searches, or are those the ones you discard?



      Originally Posted by qrp View Post

      Get a list of every word in the dictionary... Combine words into 2 or 3 keyword phrases.
      Which words in the dictionary? If these should be words related to the keywords you have gathered according to the above initial step, that could be a hell of a lot of keywords!

      Which words to combine? Those from the initial keyword list and those from the dictionary? Or those from the dictionary alone or the keyword list alone?

      Or are you saying you do keyword research INSIDE the dictionary?



      Originally Posted by qrp View Post

      Scrape articles. Take each word in an article and look it up as its own keyword. Take every 2 and every 3 words in a row and look them up as a keyword phrase.
      Is this another way to do keyword research your way? Should I look for articles about my target niche, then scrape them and pry keywords out of them?



      Originally Posted by qrp View Post

      ... I only use one adsense box, a 250x250 text box above each article and on homepage above homepage article.
      Does your Adsense 250x250 text box push down your content or does content wrap around it?



      Originally Posted by qrp View Post

      And when you make money, don't blow it on partying and girls, reinvest it to automate the work you are doing and diversify...
      Now, this is something I really like and agree with. This should be the right attitude every internet marketer should have.


      I hope you could shed more light on the above issues. Just would like to be cleared on something I want to do before doing it.

      Thanks ahead!
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Hart
    Unless you have more than 24 hours in a day and can assess the strength of all 508 people.
    That's my point, you don't analyze the 508 people in the race, you just look at the top 3 (SERPS RESULTS) the other 505 don't matter, the strongest rise to the top so that's who you concentrate on.

    Your analogy doesn't make sense, the 508 people you are talking about are all obviously in the race but when you look at serp results just because a site is listed doesn't mean they are "in the race", it doesn't mean they are actively targeting that keyword, hence not willingly in the race.

    Most of the sites you see in the Serps haven't entered themselves into the "serp race" Google has done that for them, but its clear to see they aren't targeting that keyword so they don't qualify as competition.

    Everyone has their own way and if its working for you then good job, keep doing your thing.

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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    I still say this analysis is completely flawed
    I can find a kw with only 10k competiting sites that has horrible competition on top 10

    competing sites tells you nothing
    Its still walking into a gunfight with a blindfold on
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by iva View Post

      Can you elaborate on your method of getting backlinks. Do you outsource it or do it yourself.
      I outsource any manual stuff I can. But when linking directly to my money site, if you outsource that part make sure it is to someone you have used and trusted, nothing worse than building spammy looking backlinks to your money site cuz if google analyzes your backlinks you'll get deindexed.

      Originally Posted by Loloy Diango View Post

      Hi qrp,

      I appreciate your intention to be of help to fellow marketers by sharing your method of hunting profitable, easy-to-rank niche keywords.

      And so your share wouldn’t be wasted, I want to give your method a try. However, before proceeding, can you please clarify the following:




      Do you choose keywords with up to a maximum of 50,000 exact monthly searches, or are those the ones you discard?


      I only go after keywords with 50k or more exact searches per month.


      Which words in the dictionary? If these should be words related to the keywords you have gathered according to the above initial step, that could be a hell of a lot of keywords!

      All the dictionary words. Yes, it is a hell of a lot of words, and when you start to combine words it becomes that much more. Which is why you need a method when looking at such a large quantity of keywords to narrow it down.

      Which words to combine? Those from the initial keyword list and those from the dictionary? Or those from the dictionary alone or the keyword list alone?

      I combine everything. I like using dictionary and articles because a lot of times there are things people say in articles (i.e. slang or abbreviations) which are not in the dictionary but are popular.

      Or are you saying you do keyword research INSIDE the dictionary?





      Is this another way to do keyword research your way? Should I look for articles about my target niche, then scrape them and pry keywords out of them?

      You could do that. If you're only looking at one niche you can use Google keyword tool, you could use Scrapebox and their keyword tool, or niche shark or market samuri, etc... My method is much broader then one niche.



      Does your Adsense 250x250 text box push down your content or does content wrap around it?

      It pushes down content. Have your ad be the first thing that people read, not your article. I understand there's been news lately that says Google is going to start looking at how much ad space above the fold you have and factor that into its rankings, but i dont think one 250x250 box above the fold would be considered poor.



      Now, this is something I really like and agree with. This should be the right attitude every internet marketer should have.


      I hope you could shed more light on the above issues. Just would like to be cleared on something I want to do before doing it.

      Thanks ahead!
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      I still say this analysis is completely flawed
      I can find a kw with only 10k competiting sites that has horrible competition on top 10

      competing sites tells you nothing
      Its still walking into a gunfight with a blindfold on
      Show me a keyword with 50k or more EXACT searches AND 10k competing sites and I will show you a literal paycheck. You keep talking about competing sites, that is 2nd step! First step is 50k or more exact searches. I dont care about purple elephants and pork because nobody is searching for that. Jeez, some of you guys are really dense. If you don't like my method fine, feel free to exit the thread. I was trying to help some people get started with a method that works FOR ME. If you want to put in your two cents repeatedly go and start your own thread and help people with your own methods.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by qrp View Post

        Show me a keyword with 50k or more EXACT searches AND 10k competing sites and I will show you a literal paycheck.

        I'll make this one easy.

        Based on what your saying, your competition for car insurance quotes is only 773 competing pages (way below the 10k you asked for).

        Never mind the fact that these domains have ranked pages on the #1 SERP page. Should be an easy keyword right?

        progressive.com
        nationwide.com
        statefarm.com
        allstate.com
        thegeneral.com
        esurance.com
        That's a real keyword (car insurance quotes), forget the elephant & pork example. Should be an easy keyword with only 773 competing pages in the SERPs with 60.5k exact search per month average.

        My point here is your telling noobs that they should look at a number in the SERPs that means nothing as far as seo, instead of checking first page SERP competition which is the real competition, not some guy on page 77 in the SERPs.




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        • Profile picture of the author paulgl
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post


          That's a real keyword (car insurance quotes), forget the elephant & pork example. Should be an easy keyword with only 773 competing pages in the SERPs with 60.5k exact search per month average.
          It's called debunking parlor tricks. I always had a disdain for
          SEO parlor tricks, when they have no relation to the real
          search world.

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          • Profile picture of the author rahul2020
            Actually this strategy works..but it takes time. I am also ranking on 4,5,6,7 for little less then 50k exact with cpc 28 cents. i get 5-15k traffic from one keyword..ctr is not good. I made me $120 highest.

            Also, once i strarted ranking for 250 exact for crap keyword on 20 position. Wow but now i lost that keyword. But yes things are possible.

            So, i replicated and created tons of blogspot. But i am too lazy. Even i make $400+ per month and i am doing good on amazon. But this thing works.
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        • Profile picture of the author qrp
          Car insurance quotes has 61.4 MILLION results in serps. So not sure what u r talking about


          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          I'll make this one easy.

          Based on what your saying, your competition for car insurance quotes is only 773 competing pages (way below the 10k you asked for).

          Never mind the fact that these domains have ranked pages on the #1 SERP page. Should be an easy keyword right?



          That's a real keyword (car insurance quotes), forget the elephant & pork example. Should be an easy keyword with only 773 competing pages in the SERPs with 60.5k exact search per month average.

          My point here is your telling noobs that they should look at a number in the SERPs that means nothing as far as seo, instead of checking first page SERP competition which is the real competition, not some guy on page 77 in the SERPs.




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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by qrp View Post

            Car insurance quotes has 61.4 MILLION results in serps. So not sure what u r talking about
            Go to the last page (see the screenshot) & you will see 773 pages in the SERPs.

            Why on earth would you consider pages in the supplemental SERPs competition? If Google says those pages are junk, what's the point in including them in your own research?

            I've shown you twice that SERP result number is totally bogus for seo. I'm done trying to explain.

            Good luck,
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            • Profile picture of the author AlphaWarrior
              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              Go to the last page (see the screenshot) & you will see 773 pages in the SERPs.

              Why on earth would you consider pages in the supplemental SERPs competition? If Google says those pages are junk, what's the point in including them in your own research?

              I've shown you twice that SERP result number is totally bogus for seo. I'm done trying to explain.

              Good luck,
              I believe that this method is about speed - quickly estimating the competition. It appears the qrp does "search" the keywords in quotations, but I don't think that he takes the time to go to the last page. Rather, he looks at the competition stated at the top of G. In this case "car insurance quotes" has a total of 19,400,000 competing sites. Since qrp discards anything over 5,000,000, he would have thrown out "car insurance quotes" and kept looking for suitable keywords.
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            • Profile picture of the author Marc_L
              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              Go to the last page (see the screenshot) & you will see 773 pages in the SERPs.

              Why on earth would you consider pages in the supplemental SERPs competition? If Google says those pages are junk, what's the point in including them in your own research?

              I've shown you twice that SERP result number is totally bogus for seo. I'm done trying to explain.

              Good luck,
              Are there only 654 pages with the term "google" in the non supplemental index?

              Fact of the matter is that any search you do using quotes, will give you under 1000 results if you go to the last page of the SERPS.
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              • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                Originally Posted by Marc_L View Post

                Are there only 654 pages with the term "google" in the non supplemental index?

                Fact of the matter is that any search you do using quotes, will give you under 1000 results if you go to the last page of the SERPS.
                Who used quotes?

                Even without quotes (still not sure why you said quotes) you'll never get more than 1,000 SERP results.

                Does it even matter If you have 1,001 SERP results?

                Who cares what the competition is on page 100 of the SERPs, lol.

                No real seo cares about SERP result numbers.
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                • Profile picture of the author Marc_L
                  Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                  Who used quotes?

                  Even without quotes (still not sure why you said quotes) you'll never get more than 1,000 SERP results.

                  Does it even matter If you have 1,001 SERP results?

                  Who cares what the competition is on page 100 of the SERPs, lol.

                  No real seo cares about SERP result numbers.
                  I assumed you did, my bad.

                  I think that the serp result number has some value if you combine it with other factors.

                  Let's say we found a keyword that has a low search result number and with a high search volume. Chances are that the keyword would be something to look more closely at. If the exact keyword isn't on a lot of pages then there may not be a lot of anchor text links with the exact keyword either which means there may be lower competition. This only works if you use quotes to find the search results. Probably why I assumed you were using quotes.

                  If you are going through a ton of keywords this is a pretty effective sifter.

                  Obviously there are exceptions but that doesn't mean it doesn't have any usefulness.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rick B
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Based on what your saying, your competition for car insurance quotes is only 773 competing pages (way below the 10k you asked for).
          When I click on that link I get 18,400,000 (and then a second time I got 268,000,000) results not 773.

          But I think you guys both have your points.

          It makes sense that a keyword phrase will TEND to be easier to rank for if there is a favorable ratio of searchers versus competitors but you still have to consider how strong the pages are that are ranking in the top positions in order to be reasonably sure that you can rank in the top 3 or 4 with a reasonable amount of work.
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          • Profile picture of the author Andy Hart
            Originally Posted by Rick B View Post

            When I click on that link I get 18,400,000 (and then a second time I got 268,000,000) results not 773.

            But I think you guys both have your points.

            It makes sense that a keyword phrase will TEND to be easier to rank for if there is a favorable ratio of searchers versus competitors but you still have to consider how strong the pages are that are ranking in the top positions in order to be reasonably sure that you can rank in the top 3 or 4 with a reasonable amount of work.
            NO!

            There are 773 actual results that Google deemed worthy to show for that keyword.

            Trying clicking next page and find the result for #774, you can't because the rest are in the "supplement index".

            Google has put the rest of the websites into the supplement index as they feel they are not worthy to be in the main index, which means they are not your competition, the 773 is the real competitor number.

            This has been shown many times over by many people, the number of resulting pages you see is only really looked at by beginners as that is whats taught in the countless ebooks and videos.

            The number of competing pages is still irrelevant, there could be 61 mill or 773, makes zero difference, whats matters is how strong are the above the fold websites.

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  • Profile picture of the author GoGetta
    I have to agree with the guys in here referring to analyzing competition with just the "competing sites" look.

    The top 10 is the competition. Top 3 for decent traffic!

    Competing sites means nothing. You could be trying to rank for "Dentist New York", and by analysing via competing sites only, you could have pulled up results from blogs about parents taking there son or daughter to a dentist in New York.

    And they are certainly not trying to rank for that keyword term!

    Local example granted, but you get the picture! : )

    By just analyzing competing sites, I would be willing to bet you have let a few keywords go that could have been super easy to rank for!

    GoGetta
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  • Profile picture of the author agmantz
    Originally Posted by qrp View Post

    I'm not going to give away the keyword or my sites so please don't ask. This method (if you want to call it that) is to give you motivation...

    ~ Q
    Wow, Now I'm motivated

    Thanks for Sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    This method looks cool...real cool i mean...i believe that this keyword is a real gem!!Good luck buddy~
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  • Profile picture of the author rightattitude
    When doing your KW research and looking for 50K+ exact searches per month, are you looking at Global or Local?

    Also, when using your method to find KWs to build a site, how often does it yield a profit vs. being a dud?

    Typically, when building backlinks directly to your money site, how many backlinks do you set out to build?

    JT
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  • Profile picture of the author sasai
    Great job!!!

    No point to argue, you guys want to make money. And he did it, simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    nobody searches with quotations marks

    thus that search method for determining competition is invalid
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by rightattitude View Post

      When doing your KW research and looking for 50K+ exact searches per month, are you looking at Global or Local?

      Also, when using your method to find KWs to build a site, how often does it yield a profit vs. being a dud?

      Typically, when building backlinks directly to your money site, how many backlinks do you set out to build?

      JT
      Local.

      1 in 5 is a winner on average. For the other ones, if they can make the domain renewal fee i keep them, if not i try to sell them for a few bucks or let them expire.
      This is good for me because i only invest about 5 hours per site in beginning.

      1000 to start. But i do not ping them, i let them get indexed naturally.


      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      nobody searches with quotations marks

      thus that search method for determining competition is invalid
      Yes, using quotes is no good.
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    • Profile picture of the author AlphaWarrior
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      nobody searches with quotations marks

      thus that search method for determining competition is invalid
      Maybe. What's interesting is that when I searched for "car insurance quotes" (with quotations) at the top of the page, I found 19,400,000 competing sites, and on the last page, I found 845 competing sites. When I searched for car insurance quotes (without quotations), I found 51,400,000 competing sites, and on the last page I found 775 competing sites. I expected the 845 and 775 to be reversed.

      Whatever, qrp would have tossed out car insurance quotes either way.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
    I've been doing Adsense for years and years and have no dog in this fight, but I must question the OP on the income claims. This has nothing to do with the validity of his method here, but is just pure math. Here's what I mean:

    Let's do some math people.

    Number of searches: 350,000
    Organic search gets 70%, paid 30%
    350,000 x .7 = 245,000
    Top spot gets 42% of this traffic, so there's 58% left:
    245,000 x .58 = 142,100 searches/month
    Now you get 20% CTR so that would be a maximum
    of 142,100 x .2 = 28,420 clicks maximum.

    So, if you had every single spot on the first page except the first spot, you would have a theoretical maximum monthly payout of 28,420 x .05 = $1,421. Google shares around 65% of this so your take would be $1,421 x .65 or $923.65. Now admitting that you don't have ALL the first page slots, that would make the number at least 12% or so lower so I would say around the $830 mark.

    So, in short, based SOLELY on the numbers you provided, $2-3K is not achievable. But, my hat's still off to you because we're still talking about almost a thousand dollars for a SINGLE keyword. That's impressive!

    Newbies: Please take note that finding a keyword phrase that is even close in performance to the OP's keyword phrase is going to be almost impossible to find.

    In short, thanks for the share and the inspiration. I prefer methods that are simple and easy to break down into doable steps with repeatable results. When you have repeatable results, you have a proven system. With a proven system, you have a successful business and that's what this is.

    Just my $0.02.
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    • Profile picture of the author outwest
      Originally Posted by IMSince2003 View Post

      I've been doing Adsense for years and years and have no dog in this fight, but I must question the OP on the income claims. This has nothing to do with the validity of his method here, but is just pure math. Here's what I mean:

      Let's do some math people.

      Number of searches: 350,000
      Organic search gets 70%, paid 30%
      350,000 x .7 = 245,000
      Top spot gets 42% of this traffic, so there's 58% left:
      245,000 x .58 = 142,100 searches/month
      Now you get 20% CTR so that would be a maximum
      of 142,100 x .2 = 28,420 clicks maximum.

      So, if you had every single spot on the first page except the first spot, you would have a theoretical maximum monthly payout of 28,420 x .05 = $1,421. Google shares around 65% of this so your take would be $1,421 x .65 or $923.65. Now admitting that you don't have ALL the first page slots, that would make the number at least 12% or so lower so I would say around the $830 mark.

      So, in short, based SOLELY on the numbers you provided, $2-3K is not achievable. But, my hat's still off to you because we're still talking about almost a thousand dollars for a SINGLE keyword. That's impressive!

      Newbies: Please take note that finding a keyword phrase that is even close in performance to the OP's keyword phrase is going to be almost impossible to find.

      In short, thanks for the share and the inspiration. I prefer methods that are simple and easy to break down into doable steps with repeatable results. When you have repeatable results, you have a proven system. With a proven system, you have a successful business and that's what this is.

      Just my $0.02.
      Your numbers are incorrect
      If they had every spot on the first page, or almost
      they would be getting WAY MORE Than the 42% number you only included that number which is just the number for the TOP spot, , basically if they owned all the spots on the first page they would be getting like 99 percent of the traffic or clicks...........all your numbers keep talking only about the 42% for the first spot
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      • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
        Originally Posted by outwest View Post

        Your numbers are incorrect
        If they had every spot on the first page, or almost
        they would be getting WAY MORE Than the 42% number you only included that number which is just the number for the TOP spot, , basically if they owned all the spots on the first page they would be getting like 99 percent of the traffic or clicks...........all your numbers keep talking only about the 42% for the first spot
        Please read my post more carefully. I said that the #1 spot gets 42% of the organic search volume. So, in the OP, he says that he has several spots on the first page, but NOT the first spot, so 100% - 42% = 58% maximum. My math is NOT wrong.
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        • Profile picture of the author AlphaWarrior
          Originally Posted by IMSince2003 View Post

          Please read my post more carefully. I said that the #1 spot gets 42% of the organic search volume. So, in the OP, he says that he has several spots on the first page, but NOT the first spot, so 100% - 42% = 58% maximum. My math is NOT wrong.
          The 100% - 42% = 58% is assuming that each and every searcher clicks on only one listing per search. I don't recall the estimated numbers for each position on page one, but the total is more than 100% because searchers will click on multiple sites returned in serps.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    You said this
    "So, if you had every single spot on the first page except the first spot ou would have a theoretical maximum monthly payout of 28,420 x .05 = $1,421"

    Here is why you are wrong

    You also said
    350,000 x .7 = 245,000
    Top spot gets 42% of this traffic, so there's 58% left:
    245,000 x .58 = 142,100 searches/month
    Now you get 20% CTR so that would be a maximum
    of 142,100 x .2 = 28,420 clicks maximum

    In that calculation you are using the 42% to compute the 28,420
    But wait
    in my top pasted quote you said
    "if you had every single spot on the first page except the first spot"

    If you had every single spot on the first page you would get 99 percent of the traffic not 42%
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    • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      You said this
      "So, if you had every single spot on the first page except the first spot ou would have a theoretical maximum monthly payout of 28,420 x .05 = $1,421"

      Here is why you are wrong

      You also said
      350,000 x .7 = 245,000
      Top spot gets 42% of this traffic, so there's 58% left:
      245,000 x .58 = 142,100 searches/month
      Now you get 20% CTR so that would be a maximum
      of 142,100 x .2 = 28,420 clicks maximum

      In that calculation you are using the 42% to compute the 28,420
      But wait
      in my top pasted quote you said
      "if you had every single spot on the first page except the first spot"

      If you had every single spot on the first page you would get 99 percent of the traffic not 42%
      OK, I'm going to try to clarify one more time. The top spot on page 1 of the search engine results gets 42% of the clicks. 100% - 42% = 58% for all other 9 spots on the page. So, since he can only get 58% of the clicks if he dominates all the other spots the calculation is 245,000 x .58 = 142,100 searches/month. So, the math is sound. I hope this clears it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author rahul2020
    My 1000 emd maked $80 per month. So, i hate doing mathematics before any results.
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      Originally Posted by rahul2020 View Post

      My 1000 emd maked $80 per month. So, i hate doing mathematics before any results.
      That would be the ultimate FAIL!

      One thousand EMDs & your pulling in only $80 per month, that's got to be the lowest ROI in IM history!
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  • Profile picture of the author xnice
    This a great share, and we should forget about million results or thousand results, this does not mean anything until we have money on our account. So op share a good tip, and I think that after we find the good keyword, we need to check how many back links on the 1st, 2nd spot have.
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  • Profile picture of the author sadek
    This is not so easy bro.
    Can you elaborate on your method of getting backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrislangley
    Nice tip, the key ofcourse is finding that elusive keyword that doesn't have too much competition
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  • Profile picture of the author jacksite
    It's great. It's too hard for lazy people like me to play with google
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    qrp,

    Are these going to be keyword phrases with commercial intent and keyword phrases in which there are advertisers actively bidding on these keyword phrases?

    Or will the ads that appear for the keyword phrases that you target going to display irrelevant ads that will be enticing for visitors to click?

    I apologize if that may seem like a silly question but I just want to be certain about the types of keyword phrases that you go after using this method of acquiring keyword phrases.
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by IMSince2003 View Post

      Please read my post more carefully. I said that the #1 spot gets 42% of the organic search volume. So, in the OP, he says that he has several spots on the first page, but NOT the first spot, so 100% - 42% = 58% maximum. My math is NOT wrong.
      What you are forgetting is that when you rank a site, you usually rank for other words on your site also. So if my main keyword is Widget, I will also get traffic from like phrases that can be found on my homepage, within my articles, used as anchor text for my backlinks, etc... so I may be getting traffic and earning from keywords like Blue Widget, New Widget, Round Widget, Cheap Widget, etc... For this site in this example I am focused only on this one keyword, but this is not the only keyword driving traffic to my site.

      One of my larger sites (not the one is this example) has had organic search engine traffic over the past year driven from over 28,000 keywords (according to Google Analytics). I'm only focused on the SEO for maybe 15 of those.

      Originally Posted by sadek View Post

      This is not so easy bro.
      Can you elaborate on your method of getting backlinks.
      I'm not an SEO expert but backlinks method are pretty straightforward and I think I mentioned earlier - article marketing, blog comments, profile backlinks, etc... Nothing cutting edge that I'm doing.

      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      qrp,

      Are these going to be keyword phrases with commercial intent and keyword phrases in which there are advertisers actively bidding on these keyword phrases?

      Or will the ads that appear for the keyword phrases that you target going to display irrelevant ads that will be enticing for visitors to click?

      I apologize if that may seem like a silly question but I just want to be certain about the types of keyword phrases that you go after using this method of acquiring keyword phrases.
      I got your PMs but cannot answer because it said I do not have 50 posts so if you have any other questions just ask in the thread.

      I do not discriminate against any niche. As long as the keyword meets my criteria I will give it a shot. Of course, action keywords can have a higher CTR than non-action keywords (i.e. "find cheap hosting" vs "are bananas healthy"). But I will give anything I find that fits the criteria a go, and then after a month or two you track how it is going and you invest more into the higher performing keyword sites you have. So some sites I will not touch any further after I initially create them, other sites I will add content weekly or monthly depending on how much they are pulling in for me.


      And if you are doing well with a keyword, you are leaving money on the table by not creating more sites to grab more of the first page spots in Google. Even if you rank #1 in Google, try to create another site and grab the #2 spot as well. Once you get some analytical information from your first site it is easy to spot if you should be building a second, third, fourth site attacking the same keyword.
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      • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
        Originally Posted by qrp View Post

        I got your PMs but cannot answer because it said I do not have 50 posts so if you have any other questions just ask in the thread.

        I do not discriminate against any niche. As long as the keyword meets my criteria I will give it a shot. Of course, action keywords can have a higher CTR than non-action keywords (i.e. "find cheap hosting" vs "are bananas healthy"). But I will give anything I find that fits the criteria a go, and then after a month or two you track how it is going and you invest more into the higher performing keyword sites you have. So some sites I will not touch any further after I initially create them, other sites I will add content weekly or monthly depending on how much they are pulling in for me.


        And if you are doing well with a keyword, you are leaving money on the table by not creating more sites to grab more of the first page spots in Google. Even if you rank #1 in Google, try to create another site and grab the #2 spot as well. Once you get some analytical information from your first site it is easy to spot if you should be building a second, third, fourth site attacking the same keyword.
        Thanks qrp for your response. Still confused about whether the keyword phrases you target have to have commercial intent or not, or are you saying that you don't care if it doesn't?

        Also, do you take into consideration whether keyword phrases have a decent number of advertisers?

        For example, the following keyword phrases fit your criteria (last time I checked) but they don't seem to have any advertisers:

        1. baby games - 74K searches and about 2 million results

        2. paycheck calculator - 110K searches and 2.25 million results roughly

        3. medium length hair styles - 60K searches and 2.5 million results

        4. crossword puzzle maker - 90K searches and 873K results

        All of the above keyword phrases fit your criteria but none of them really have advertisers nor any real commercial intent. Moreover, when I checked the top 10 the competition was a little competitive but not extremely.
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  • Profile picture of the author qrp
    1. baby games - has over 2 billion results - avoid
    3. medium length hair styles - has 5.2 million results - avoid (medium length hairstyles has 2.5 million results but the search volume for this is much less)

    2 and 4 fit the criteria. now if you had a list of 100 keywords that fit the criteria and you only have time to build 5 sites, you would narrow it down further. for me, if i needed to narrow it down further i'd like at CPC, # of Results in SERPS, and Exact Searches, with a little bit of my gut thrown into it.

    Both 2 and 4 have 110k exact searches per month. 2 has 2.3 million results and a $2.18 CPC, 4 has 880k results and a 0.37 CPC.

    While neither may have commercial intent, there still could be relevant and enticing ads (for paycheck calculator I could picture someone advertising on this phrase for something like 'how to increase your paycheck' 'work online and get larger paychecks' etc... for the crossword puzzle there could be ads about 'playing games online').

    Will either of these two result in a home run? Probably not. Can either of these possibly pull $50-150 per month, Yes. And these two topics I think would do much better financially with CPA instead of Adsense. For the paycheck calculator i would put a bizz opp offer or a clickbank product offer on there which could pay anywhere from $20-100 depending on which one you promote, and for the crossword puzzle i'd put a cpa offer for a Games Toolbar or something along those lines that pays $1.5-$2.5 per conversion. I know I'm getting off the adsense track here but there is no set definitive formula that will work in every instance. Once you begin to get experience you will be able to fine tune what you are doing to maximize your revenue and make sure you are not leaving money on the table.
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  • Profile picture of the author ukcarl
    Cool story, it just shows that having a plan and taking action pays off.

    Have you tried improving revenue with a premium adsensetheme like CTR theme????
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    And are you getting the CPC from Google Keyword Tool or the Contextual Targeting Tool (for Adsense)?
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  • Profile picture of the author StoneWilson
    This is the second time I saw people talking about this strategy, focus on one niche is really that benficial? I would try.
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  • Profile picture of the author eezymoney
    Your post is quite encouraging, but there is no detail to implement it.

    What I mean is, where do you get a list of all the words in a dictionary and how would you combine them, then find their exact search volumes without getting your IP banned by google for automated search queries.

    Perhaps, you should write a short article and sell it as a wso?
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by ukcarl View Post

      Cool story, it just shows that having a plan and taking action pays off.

      Have you tried improving revenue with a premium adsensetheme like CTR theme????
      No, I am happy with my CTR. I make my own manual tweaks to themes.

      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      And are you getting the CPC from Google Keyword Tool or the Contextual Targeting Tool (for Adsense)?
      Google Keyword Tool. I know is not exact, but should be directionally informative.

      Originally Posted by eezymoney View Post

      Your post is quite encouraging, but there is no detail to implement it.

      What I mean is, where do you get a list of all the words in a dictionary and how would you combine them, then find their exact search volumes without getting your IP banned by google for automated search queries.

      Perhaps, you should write a short article and sell it as a wso?
      Not interested in selling anything as I don't have time for customer service and hand holding.

      You can get dictionary words online using Google to find lists. You can also hire someone to build a scraper to scrape sites and then remove duplicate words that are found.

      There are many ways to combine lists of words. In Excel you can create a macro. If you know php you can create a scrip. Or you can hire someone to create one of these for you.

      I have 50 private proxies that I rent and use.
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  • Profile picture of the author BarryWheeler
    Does anyone else hear the BS meter ringing?
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by BarryWheeler View Post

      Does anyone else hear the BS meter ringing?
      It's comments like this that take people who share their knowledge and make them question next time if they want to share.


      Where do I hear a BS meter? It's actually on your blog Barry:

      "Normally installation and setup of your custom blog would cost you $500."

      - barrywheeler.ca/custom-blog-for-free/

      Nowadays you can get a blog setup for $25 from a multitude of providers. But you keep trying to take advantage of those noobs Barry by selling them on this "$500 value" "custom blog".

      And if it is a "custom blog" why are you installing the same 9 plugins for everyone, and they have to pick 1 of 6 themes. Kinda defeats the purpose of the word "Custom", huh?

      See Barry, while you are "helping" people for your $100 hostgator commission I'm actually helping people without the hidden agenda.
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      • Profile picture of the author mrizos
        Originally Posted by qrp View Post

        It's comments like this that take people who share their knowledge and make them question next time if they want to share.


        Where do I hear a BS meter? It's actually on your blog Barry:

        "Normally installation and setup of your custom blog would cost you $500."

        - barrywheeler.ca/custom-blog-for-free/

        Nowadays you can get a blog setup for $25 from a multitude of providers. But you keep trying to take advantage of those noobs Barry by selling them on this "$500 value" "custom blog".

        And if it is a "custom blog" why are you installing the same 9 plugins for everyone, and they have to pick 1 of 6 themes. Kinda defeats the purpose of the word "Custom", huh?

        See Barry, while you are "helping" people for your $100 hostgator commission I'm actually helping people without the hidden agenda.
        Oh snap! Actually the only reason I started reading your post was because you had NO SIGNATURE (I mean a signature that's selling/offering something)

        Whenever I see no signature I read. If there's a signature on an OP that's offering "advice" I stop reading.

        I can attest to this method working...I stumbled upon it by accident (with products).

        Anyway, thanks for offering your method to the WF without pushing a BS product, service, newsletter, etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author yamaha racer
    So jelaouse wish I could do this I can't create a website
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc_L
    qrp,

    Your keyword research seems to be too thourogh considering you are looking for keywords with 50k in monthly searches. Can't you find these keywords using more modest methods?
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    • Profile picture of the author qrp
      Originally Posted by Marc_L View Post

      qrp,

      Your keyword research seems to be too thourogh considering you are looking for keywords with 50k in monthly searches. Can't you find these keywords using more modest methods?
      The best keywords (in my experience) are the ones which you wouldn't think people search for. And they aren't always easy to find so you need to be thorough because the majority of people are not thorough but rather they are lazy and looking to do whatever is easier. Slang or strange phrases or non-words do very well because a lot of the time nobody is trying to rank for them.

      Here's an example (I don't go after this term as it doesn't have enough searches but it is for illustrative purposes):

      Brangelina (the term for brad pitt/angelina jolie)

      This used to be a hotter term a few years back, but even today it gets 15k exact global searches a month. Only 1.3M results in Google. And on the first page is the UrbanDictionary.com site. Anytime I see a dictionary site on the first page for a keyword I know the competition is very weak.
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      • Profile picture of the author Marc_L
        Originally Posted by qrp View Post

        The best keywords (in my experience) are the ones which you wouldn't think people search for. And they aren't always easy to find so you need to be thorough because the majority of people are not thorough but rather they are lazy and looking to do whatever is easier. Slang or strange phrases or non-words do very well because a lot of the time nobody is trying to rank for them.

        Here's an example (I don't go after this term as it doesn't have enough searches but it is for illustrative purposes):

        Brangelina (the term for brad pitt/angelina jolie)

        This used to be a hotter term a few years back, but even today it gets 15k exact global searches a month. Only 1.3M results in Google. And on the first page is the UrbanDictionary.com site. Anytime I see a dictionary site on the first page for a keyword I know the competition is very weak.
        Thanks for that.

        However would your process uncover "brangelina"?
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  • Profile picture of the author Textech
    Try using Dave Guidon's Keyword Optimizer Pro. It's free at the moment. Or atleast watch his video on You Tube.

    Textech.
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  • Profile picture of the author sunray
    If I understood it right, one such keyword is yoga poses: 60,500 searches, and 4,720,000 results. Would it be a good keyword to use?
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