Which Linkbuilding technique is working now after Panda update?

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Hi Friends,

I came to know that article marketing is dead and would like to know which is going to work for building backlinks?

Thanks and Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    The name of the game seems now to be contextual links. What Google calls editorial link.
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  • Profile picture of the author murrad
    Mike..can you please explain them a bit ? I tried to get but ended up vain.
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    • Profile picture of the author packerfan
      Contextual links are links that are in context. Think "natural". For example, on your blog you might say, "hey I found this awesome website" and have awesome website linked to a cool site.
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        Meant to say in content, not context.
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  • Profile picture of the author samual james
    Article marketing is still alive, you can get links through it but every time you need to take a new article and if you want to get more benefit then you need to create link wheel. Contextual llinks only helps you in getting good serp
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  • hey,
    I also checked article marketing is still working after the google panda update.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    Article marketing is still working well. But you need to get them indexed well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clint Faber
    The Pandas in Town and He's Not Cute and Cuddly

    I particularly enjoy that they released that panda update as it puts the hurt on some of the techniques which are being exploited and dirtying up the web. Although many of the techniques which were working in the past are still currently working they simply are not as effective as others are now.

    For example contextual links which are embedded within a article of a particular site will be counted higher now compared to sidebar links. So as long as you're distributing content with your links embedded in focusing around distribution of high quality material/information/articles you should be seeing higher rankings and more traffic thanks to panda bear.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Conner
    Panda is here to punish the copy cat. After panda update it is necessary to submit a fresh, unique and quality content every time. After panda updates my sites are ranked.
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  • All types work as long as you aren't spamming.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    -High PR Blog networks
    -Guest Posts and Links on Niche Related Sites
    -Relevant Blog Comments
    -Buying out related domains
    -High PR Directories - DMOZ, Yahoo, etc. Yes they still work and are worth it.
    -Building out properties on Web2 sites (Wordpress.com, squidoo, hubpages, blogspot etc) and then blasting them with lower quality links like forum profiles, scrapebox, etc.
    -A few High PR Permanent Homepage/Links.
    -Article Directories and Mass distribution services, so you get more diversity in the IP addresses linking to you.

    That's what it takes for me to rank for very tough keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author Phoenixfk
    Article marketing does quite well especially if you can get good distribution for your content. The more content you have, the better your serps. The panda has to eat!
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  • Profile picture of the author TheTruth2011
    If you can index very very well, then it's still a go. But only if you can index this well.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMdude123
    in my opinion all the link building techniques still work. it just that with the panda update google is putting more seo weight into on-page SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Majin
    I'm doing linkpush and it works well atm
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
      Some of the lower quality links like profiles and articles do still work, but only for keywords with really low competition. For everything else, anything with high Page Rank works, i.e. contextual homepage backlinks, blogroll links, blog comments w/ low OBLs, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author dburk
    Originally Posted by sureshtechendeavour View Post

    I came to know that article marketing is dead and would like to know which is going to work for building backlinks?,
    Hi sureshtechendeavour,

    I think you have been mislead.

    The Panda series of updates targeted poor quality content, not article marketing. Unless you are using poor quality content for your articles, you will still have success with article marketing.

    Conversely, if you are using poor quality content for any type of backlinks, you will be negatively effected by the Panda updates. It wasn't restricted to any particular types of backlinks, it effects all backlinks from pages with poor quality content.
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  • Profile picture of the author DarrenHaynes
    If article marketing was dead, my sites would be also, but they are alive and kicking, and breexed through Panda and are still making me a good living. Panda was way more about onsite content as far as I can tell...
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    Originally Posted by sureshtechendeavour View Post

    Hi Friends,

    I came to know that article marketing is dead and would like to know which is going to work for building backlinks?

    Thanks and Regards,
    After the panda update , one can find the more results that contains the video and content from the social media as well. And with the social media blog, video , social bookmarking , article on social network be more helpful for you to get the more results. But the thing is to provide the quality and meaningful content and also the unique description in the submission.
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  • Profile picture of the author Antivirus
    Articles marketing is not dead. Its working really good for me. But make sure you submit the unique content. However you can use some of the high pr web2.0 properties and make the in content link but unique content is required here as well. But yes sure You can spin the content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Theeban
    No, I do not agree with you. Article marketing is still rocking. For me, usually, I notice that improvement of SERP after few days of article submitted. I do submit single articles to around 15-20 article directories as well as publish those on my blogs too. That really worked. It is not dead. I can say that, it is one of the best method, ever rocking link building strategy to get improvement in Google SERP.
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  • Profile picture of the author whitehat2
    Anything you can do with article marketing.. But the only thing is that content should be unique.. Even if u used 50-100 article submissions it should be unique..
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  • Profile picture of the author vksheilds
    If you want say that Google panda is against of article marketing then I am not agreeing with you. Google is just to punish duplicate content. Still if you had back links from ezine, e how and wiki articles. Just need to fill the requirement of the site and enjoy article marketing through fresh and best sites
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
    It seems like SENUkeX, AMR, and blog networks still works great post Panda updates.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by John Conner View Post

      Panda is here to punish the copy cat. After panda update it is necessary to submit a fresh, unique and quality content every time. After panda updates my sites are ranked.
      I think it is a myth... I don't think unique content is necessary at all.

      Originally Posted by TheTruth2011 View Post

      If you can index very very well, then it's still a go. But only if you can index this well.
      If it gets indexed, then it gets indexed. Is there a difference between indexing and indexing well?

      Originally Posted by dburk View Post

      Hi sureshtechendeavour,

      I think you have been mislead.

      The Panda series of updates targeted poor quality content, not article marketing. Unless you are using poor quality content for your articles, you will still have success with article marketing.

      Conversely, if you are using poor quality content for any type of backlinks, you will be negatively effected by the Panda updates. It wasn't restricted to any particular types of backlinks, it effects all backlinks from pages with poor quality content.
      I still don't believe this. I don't believe poor quality content is an issue at all. Google said it was aimed to punish content without much relevance, and that is true in the case if that relevance is judged by the same metrics of the algorithm. Backlinks to backlinks seem to work well. I have a few article directories that are 100% duplicated and they do great for me.

      An article with 100 words can be higher quality than an article with 1,000 words. I know the algo is complex, but I don't think it can determine how well some content is written.
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  • Profile picture of the author kengperapol
    Quality blog comments and contextual links from high PR sites are working great for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoMonster1
    Article Marketing is still alive and powerfully alive. If you want to make the best outcome of it then do with quality and unique content and index it well. Try not to submit one article to various places.
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  • Profile picture of the author gomzydecor
    I read on few seo chat forums that Blog commenting is a good technique to create back links. Guest Blogging is even a good method for mutual benefit of both Bloggers. Other best way is to submit link in high PR directories.
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    • Profile picture of the author khan123
      off course Article marketing is working properly after Google panda update but you need to write unique content which will to improve website ranking in search engine as well as many other services are working properly after Google panda such as directory submission,Social bookmarking,forum posting.
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  • Profile picture of the author AravGupta
    Originally Posted by sureshtechendeavour View Post

    Hi Friends,

    I came to know that article marketing is dead and would like to know which is going to work for building backlinks?

    Thanks and Regards,
    Article marketing is not dead nor it will die in future. After Panda update, everyone is trying different techniques to keep going with article marketing. I was to submit one article in five directories before panda update and now I am submitting one article in one directory and after approval, I am bookmarking it in some good bookmarking sites. This is helping a lot in improving my keyword rankings and as well as helping me to get some exposure for my submitted articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author diyakapoor
    Create one way back links from theme based PR sites. This technique is still helpful
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  • Profile picture of the author pons_saravanan
    For me, Blog comments and forum posting are working effectively. I am using other methods to just to diversify.
    But blog comments and forum posting should be done properly, If spammed your link will disappear in seconds.
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  • Profile picture of the author cyrilchua
    This thread is gold. Keep the discussion going man. Would a nested sopun article be counted as unique articles by google?
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by cyrilchua View Post

      This thread is gold. Keep the discussion going man. Would a nested sopun article be counted as unique articles by google?
      Hi cyrilchua,

      You might as well be asking "how long is a piece of string?"

      Whether or not an article would be considered unique by Google depends upon a number of facts not in evidence.

      How well spun is it? Is it rewritten at the sentence level, if so, how many times is it rewritten? What is the percentage of uniquely written content verses how many spun versions have been published?

      Once you answer some of those questions you will be closer to an answer for your own question.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bofu2U
    Just keep your on-page on point and almost any link building will work.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Snyder
      Originally Posted by Bofu2U View Post

      Just keep your on-page on point and almost any link building will work.
      This.

      Link Diversity is key. Social is also playing an important role. Get that Facebook page beefed up and get some tweets/shares to your important pages and new posts.

      My best advice would be to analyze your competitors. Find out where their good links are from and snag as many as possible. You can find some great high pr blog commenting opportunities and identify quality directories.

      For local businesses, push your clients to pay for a BBB online listings. These are good quality links, usually PR2+, and have a positive impact on Google Places. One of my clients has ~15 PR 2/3 links from BBB alone.

      Most of my experience is in the local markets, but content is extremely important. I've seen a clear correlation between indexed content and rankings. Panda cracked down on crappy duplicate content. For example, 50 pages with the exact same content except for the name of the city is not kosher post-panda. Re-write that first paragraph a few times, spin it up, and you'll be fine.
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      • Profile picture of the author MarketingAce
        Originally Posted by Jeff Snyder View Post

        This.

        Link Diversity is key. Social is also playing an important role. Get that Facebook page beefed up and get some tweets/shares to your important pages and new posts.

        My best advice would be to analyze your competitors. Find out where their good links are from and snag as many as possible. You can find some great high pr blog commenting opportunities and identify quality directories.

        For local businesses, push your clients to pay for a BBB online listings. These are good quality links, usually PR2+, and have a positive impact on Google Places. One of my clients has ~15 PR 2/3 links from BBB alone.

        Most of my experience is in the local markets, but content is extremely important. I've seen a clear correlation between indexed content and rankings. Panda cracked down on crappy duplicate content. For example, 50 pages with the exact same content except for the name of the city is not kosher post-panda. Re-write that first paragraph a few times, spin it up, and you'll be fine.

        Hey I just started to wonder how (and I should have thought about this a while back) can we check our competitors backlinks? I know that yahoo explorer provided all that info, but does Majestic offer it now? Where's the best place to find it? I would like to know where they are getting their link juice too. Any help? Thanks.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeff Snyder
          Originally Posted by MarketingAce View Post

          Hey I just started to wonder how (and I should have thought about this a while back) can we check our competitors backlinks? I know that yahoo explorer provided all that info, but does Majestic offer it now? Where's the best place to find it? I would like to know where they are getting their link juice too. Any help? Thanks.
          Like others have said - Majestic SEO is good. I use Market Samuari to quickly analyze competitors and breakdown their PR links, # of anchor text links, etc... Market Samurai gets their link data from Majestic, however you get data for free through Market Samurai you would otherwise have to pay for from Majestic.

          SEOMoz has some good tools that I'm just starting to play with. I find Market Samurai more efficient though.

          My results with SEO Spyglass have been pretty poor since Yahoo Site Explorer went down. Anyone else had a similar experience? I haven't updated in a while...are they pulling links from Majestic now or something?
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Originally Posted by sureshtechendeavour View Post

    Hi Friends,

    I came to know that article marketing is dead and would like to know which is going to work for building backlinks?

    Thanks and Regards,
    Article marketing has always been dead for back links, you need to make them useful by sending them links.

    Here is a link i found useful after the panda - The Ultimate Post-Panda Link Building Strategy and Mindmap
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  • Profile picture of the author t0mmy
    the same technique that has always worked and will always work, the most natural looking one in the world: lots of DIVERSE links, links comings from several places and a steady stream of them at that, you cant go wrong panda or no panda....
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    • Profile picture of the author MarketingAce
      Originally Posted by Mike Hutton View Post

      the same technique that has always worked and will always work, the most natural looking one in the world: lots of DIVERSE links, links comings from several places and a steady stream of them at that, you cant go wrong panda or no panda....
      Mike, do you happen to know the answer to my question? I would like to know where's is the most reliable place to find the competitors backlinks. Would appreciate your help.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Sweeney
        Originally Posted by MarketingAce View Post

        Mike, do you happen to know the answer to my question? I would like to know where's is the most reliable place to find the competitors backlinks. Would appreciate your help.
        Majestic SEO is good, but I like SEO Spyglass the best. It pulls backlinks from a variety of sources, and there's a free version available to get you started.
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      • Profile picture of the author t0mmy
        Originally Posted by MarketingAce View Post

        Mike, do you happen to know the answer to my question? I would like to know where's is the most reliable place to find the competitors backlinks. Would appreciate your help.
        Chris pretty much summed up what i would have said mate, Majestic SEO and SEO Spyglass are the best 2 tools to analyze a competitors backlinks, they still leave some stuff to be desired but are as solid as there is on the market at the moment....
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  • Profile picture of the author Rojish Roy
    Blog commenting and social bookmarking works well for me. Guest postings are also playing a good role. Article marketing still works, but you have to be careful while choosing article directories. After the Panda update the thing that become most important is the "quality" of the content on your website.
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  • Profile picture of the author delboy2010
    A good mixture of social network, blog posts, high pr contextuals, wiki's etc, basically a good variety, constantly built is what always works for me and continues to work for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author wordsofmagic
      I don't believe article marketing is dead, just need to provide a much higher quality of article and need to be index well. I find social media is great for linkbuilding for example facebook and twitter. Contextual linking with thematic blogs does deliver powerful search engine rankings too.

      Also you tube is useful, if you can get a dedicated channel you synidicate your content across the net using a service like tube mogul.
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  • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
    I think what's becoming clear is that it's a case of same old same old, but better please...

    Articles still work of course, especially when people read or use them, but I'm finding that building my own high quality backlinks (PR3+, edu, do follow, contextual and where possible, country specific) works really well, although it is time consuming.

    That said, a mix of 30-50 high PR, .edu and if poss a .gov or two, contextual links, with as many as possible being DF seem to work over and over again for me.

    I recently hit paydirt with a UK based site, where I tried to exclusively use UK based sites for my backlinks. Of course, it's impossible to say it made a difference, but my seasonal site stood its own against Amazon and a few big names, rankings wise.

    I suspect Google will try and refine the weight of backlinks more over time, and that hopefully quality will triumph over quantity.
    That said I always begin link building campaigns for my own sites with a good blast of SENuke then refine it from there, which I suspect is what many warriors do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Crank
    With last updates it looks like every person in seo should turn into copywriter somehow. Unique content is valued as never before.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrislangley
    I think article marketing is still good if you pick good article directories
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Albas
    I also think that Guest Posting Will help alot...
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  • Profile picture of the author webworm
    After panda update social marketing is given a high priority.
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  • Profile picture of the author christiehemme
    High PR Blog networks
    Guest Posts and Links on Niche Related Sites
    Relevant Blog Comments
    Article marketing

    These are the most valuable technique to get result quickly.
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    • Profile picture of the author PeckhamPirate
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  • Profile picture of the author Kris79
    Short answer: the key is backlinks profile that looks more natural.

    A little bit longer answer:
    I agree that contextual links are the best but there is something even more important:
    having backlinks from different kinds of backlinks from different sources.
    the simplest strategy could look like this:
    1. Submit articles to some good blog network
    2. Create some backlinks from blog commenting from different types of pages, both with high and low PR
    3. Use some social signals
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  • Profile picture of the author kartikgee
    I agree too. Article Marketing is alive and kicking. If there is focus on quality link building, you need not worry much about Panda updates. Spam, random link blasting etc are not long term solutions to get your site ranked. So if you have a good money site, build quality links in a steady manner and you will surely rank higher!
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  • Profile picture of the author madison_avenue
    I only submit articles to 20 top article directories and I do it manually. Blasting 100's of directories using software; Is that still worthwhile? If it is I'll do it.
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