Trying to Build a High PR network

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Guys I am trying to start building my own personal high PR network. So far I have become a member of dropday.com and have been attempting to purchase expired domains at godaddy auctions. However, I am finding many of these domains are going for astronomical prices. There was a PR6 that went for almost $400 which is really stiff.

Doing my research I use rankchecker to ensure pagerank is valid and have been using majesticseo to see that there are plenty of links to the main domain page. What prices should one expect to pay for these high PR domains i.e. PR 3 or higher?

Is there any other marketplace to obtain these high PR domains? I don't want to spend several thousand dollars building this out.

thanks in advance,
dadoc
#search engine optimization #build #high #network
  • Ebay might be worth looking at and usually has some for sale at reasonable prices.

    Are you hosting the domains on separate c class IP's?
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    • I haven't really started, but have found a couple of decent hosting platforms. I desire shared IP SEO hosting because the cost is so much less.

      I will check ebay out and see. Thanks for the tip.
  • If you don't know how to build PR quickly you shouldn't be in the PR Network business, these guys create PR out of dust, especially after PR goes down regularly due to backlinks sold.
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    • I am going to keep the outbound links at a minimum amount probably 30 to 40 or so. I have 2 very authoritative ecommerce sites I use to point to other sites to give them some PR but can't usually get them above PR 2.

      This is certainly a bold endeavour as I have dabbled with other high PR networks and have found that an incontext link on the homepage is quite strong at ranking for low to medium competitive keywords, but once that rolls off then the rankings drop a bit....
    • so how do you learn it without getting into it? :confused:

    • Yes, of course not, if this guy going forward as per any experts?
  • A solid PR6 for $400 is a very good price. PR domains have been going up since last Autumn. You shouldn't pay for PR though, what you want to pay for are:
    The number of PR links driving the domain.
    The chances of those links being deleted.
    You will need Ahrefs + Scrapebox to quickly check links or use SEO Spyglass if your willing to wait.
    Building a quality high PR network will cost you thousands though.

    Congrats and goodluck on your network!
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  • Try using freshdrop.com they seem to have better domains listed. Sometimes dropday just doesn't list any good domains...I don't know why.

    The lowest prices you can expect to pay for auction domains are around $59, so it's only worth it if you buy PR4+ domains.
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  • You need high PR and aged domains, a SEO hosting with unique class-C IPs, unique themes and a software like Article Marketing Robot that can automate your submissions to your network.
  • Making site PR4 is actually deadly easy if you know some good techniques. PM me if you are interested, I don't want to share it to public here.
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    • SinSimon: Very interested in how you accomplish this. Please PM me.
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    $400 for PR 6 domain is enough if it's 6-8 years old. Last month I bough and PR 5 domain for $380 but the age is 12 years old. Sometimes, price also depends on the age of domain.
  • A PR6 for $400 is not a bad price under the right circumstances. It could even be a steal. Depends entirely on what it comes with. You are going to end up losing your shirt if you only concentrate on PR when buying PR domains. Common conception is that that is the most important factor - It is not.

    far more important are the quantity, quality and positioning of the links. Further factors that affect price are how many interior pages have pagerank links coming to them. People have a way of only looking at the home page. Frankly some PR6s are downright STEALS at a $1,000 and more with those factors taken into consideration. You can do some SERIOUSLY profitable things with interior links as well.


    The day you see a PR8 selling for $400 and believe its a good buy is the day that you will lose $400 for a worthless domain.

    legitimate PR8s go for several thousands and rarely become available.
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  • Yes a PR 6 is a STEAL at $400 as long as the backlinks are there. I bought two PR 6s, both around $600 and one is now a 4 as it lost it's backlinks.

    Honestly. I wouldn't use GoDaddy to buy high PR domains as I believe a lot of people build up PR and then sell the domains on GoDaddy. Then they have those backlinks deleted and start on other domains.

    You should try a domain finding service called Register Compass. It will find legitimate high PR domains that are dropped and about to go in auction. Then you can do your homework on each one and see if it's one you want. You will have to create domain registrar accounts on enomcentral.com and Network Solutions. All auctions are handled through Namejet.com. And yes, they find high PR domains in GoDaddy also.
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    • Unfortunately that can happen with any service of marketplace. Thats why you must do your homework and know what you are looking for to determine good buys. Sorry to hear your lost on one . The other one is holding PR though it seems?
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  • what you need is :

    At least 2-3PR blogs
    Hosting each blog to unique IP address
    Different themes for each blog
    NO adsense or google analytics to each blog otherwise they can find your entire network with just one search!
  • Could one argue that for an existing network with several PR4-6's in place, the best investment is in very aged PR 2-3's that are much cheaper and less bid competitive?

    Not trying to steal your thread here man, but you are right. The prices are getting high, and it seems like making PR5's is much more efficient than buying them.

    Any experience/experiments on funneling PR juice with respect to aged domains? I came across a very old PR6 for sale and all of its backlinks were from PR4's and lower. It seemed to stand out.
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    • PR4s are probably the best now and I would say PR5s too. Pr 3 sometimes go for prices that would be comparable to good deals on PR4s. PR2s are good for training with but not alot of juice. Very aged really doesn't matter as much as the Pr and the links

      There are ways but I wouldn't say its efficient. Combine buying and making is the best and most efficient way of going .
  • Pay Mike a butt load of money and ask him to build you a network .....in the long run it would probably end up cheaper.
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    • Norm for you I will package it up as a $47, $97, $197 or $297 package or some other ending in 7 figure that warriors need to have ending a price or they won't buy.
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  • There's one big problem with these old PR domains. The PR is a result of aged links and an aged domain.

    The aged links are generally from a decent, edited page that passes PR. That's why it seems like buying older domains is a better idea.

    That said, the internet is changing. You can't really count on links from 2006 staying in place forever. Imagine, if you will, a new webmaster of an old site finds the domain the page links to now links to a 'blog' with lots of crappy posts.

    They take down the link.

    The PR falls to 0.

    Your investment has either been recovered, or you lost money.

    So always ask yourself how much you'd be willing to pay for the domain if it lost it's juice on the next PR update. Most of the time, $600 will be out of the question.
  • A PR6 $400 is a good price already because when the domain expires the PR usually goes down as time passes by. The longer it is parked then the domain will do down.
  • Hi,

    What about Blog Commenting? It can give you many High PR backlinks for free.

    There is a good tool available in WSO i.e. Backlinks Kicker, which can help you in getting your desired PR backlinks, It can also backlink to high authority blogs with .gov and .edu domains.

    Regards,
    Gunpal Jain
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    • No real comparison to your own network links. Most comments like what you are talking about are auto placed and deleted by mods, no followed or high OBLed.

      People actually think they get a PR5 link by placing a link on a PR5 page with 200-1,000 other links. By the time that link is divided up it may be pretty close to a PR 0 link.
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  • What do you mean by "private register"? Are you talking about registering domains with whois protection?

    Thanks a lot for clarifying!
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    • I have had good luck getting good dropped domains from NameJet. But when you do that your domain registrars are going to be either Network Solutions or enomCentral. And let me tell you, their domain renewal fees are in fact INSANE! $35 for each domain renewal. Thank god that's only 1 time a year!

      I do have most than a few domains with GoDaddy, but that's because I bought them in bulk from someone who was building a high PR network and then gave up. But I'm sure it helps to have a network with domains from different registrars. It hides the footprint as well.

      Yes I am. Private registering your High PR domains is the best thing you can do right after you buy them. Or else there's a high chance that you will lose the PR.
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  • There's lots of great info in this thread. I'm going to have to dig through it again to digest it all. Great tip about private registering high pr domains to keep the PR up.
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    • Here is my Two Penneth.

      Pagerank is not important for SERPS, not at all, but I agree it looks nice.
      PR3 or better and I am happy, but it is not important for SERPS position.

      Pagerank does allow you to sell Blogroll links and the sort, and get fairly reasonable money too, a PR3 blogroll link is an easy $5 / month.

      6 on a site, $30 / month = $1 /day.

      500 sites...

      Anyway, I can tell you from experience, it is content that counts the most, followed by the content on the sites that link to you, and that it turn link to them.

      Otherwise called relevance.

      I have so far built about 140 sites for a number of clients, each is interconnected to the others by Google Analytics and Webmaster Tools and many are monitized with Asense, all using the same code.

      So Google knows.. Without doubt that the sites are part of a network.

      Amazingly, only the sites with good content rank in search....

      All the sites are under 9 months old and some of them are on page 1 for some pretty good searches and given these are for SEO primarily that tells a story in itself.

      However, even the poor sites definately provide SEO benefits, it is easy to see as we are targeting different keywords from different "groups" of domains.

      So it depends on what you want, if you want to sell links then you really want Pagerank because it make the links easier to sell. But if you want SEO benefit from the network then go for content, the pagerank will come on its own.

      As for buying sites with Pagerank, I guess that's ok if you research the domain and it's the right price, but in my experience, pagerank can be built to PR3/4 pretty easily within 90 days for about $100, so why pay more for it.

      I would prefer a niche related, PR0 with 100 relevant backlinks than a PR5 that isn't related.

      I can build a niche related PR0 with 100 backlinks for $100 very quickly.

      I use xMarkpro for the backend management, it makes domain setup almost 1 click, automatically adds the cPanel Addon domain, installs Wordpress or your custom site, plugins, theme, even posts and pages.

      Couple of clicks.

      $100 would cover, domain, hosting, content and some carefully selected backlinks.

      Then just post on the site once a week, odd link here and there, relevant, (not forgetting you can anchor links from the rest of the network if they're relevant, and wait.

      If the content is any good, links will come for free.

      Don't know if that helps, I hope it does, but it really depends on what you want the network for.

      T
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  • Is it seriously that easy?! Something tells me it's not. I mean, according to your estimates, you would need 3000 people paying you $30 a month in order to make that $500 a day (6 links on a site times 500 sites). I would think that it would be very hard to be able to get 3000 people to pay $30 a month a on a consistent basis.

    However, I could totally be wrong and this could be a very realistic thing. Were you serious when you posted that, or were you pretty much poking fun at the "backlink selling" business model?

    Anyone else who is experienced on this can feel free to lend their input as well.

    Thanks a lot.
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    • Sounds like a nightmare unless you have automated software to handle all link adding, anchor text changes, transferring links from dead domains, cancelled subs.
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  • Hi Mike

    I think you are expert about building High PR network.
    So I look at you website but it show sold out. T_T

    I just started open the website for SEO service in my country.
    So I need to have my private network and it should powerful. So I need expert to help.

    PM your e-mail to me. I will send the details to you. Hope you are interesting to contact me.
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    • PM sent but if for any reason you have access issues with your Pm just click the contact link and the email address for the advanced training and automatic network is right there
  • Use some dropped domain lists and services. Can find some gems there.

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    Guys I am trying to start building my own personal high PR network. So far I have become a member of dropday.com and have been attempting to purchase expired domains at godaddy auctions. However, I am finding many of these domains are going for astronomical prices. There was a PR6 that went for almost $400 which is really stiff. Doing my research I use rankchecker to ensure pagerank is valid and have been using majesticseo to see that there are plenty of links to the main domain page. What prices should one expect to pay for these high PR domains i.e. PR 3 or higher?