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Best way to get a high PR for free

by tahoecale
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i never can get more than a page rank of 2 i have my link on tons of blog comments and sig links on forums i really don't know what else to do?

can anyone please shoot me some ideas.
#free #high
  • Profile picture of the author KimboJim
    What is the PR of the forums and blogs? Also, are they DoFollow? If you are looking to increase your PR (which is overrated for SERPs, so I hope you are doing this to sell the website or some personal satisfaction), you need a lot of high PR DoFollow backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shane Roe
    The best way to get a high PR is by getting backlinks from high PR sites.

    It's best to keep a mixture of both do follow and no follow links to make it look a bit more natural to Google.

    You can easily find some high PR urls through Google by using SEO Quake (any other recommendations? Anyone?) and typing in the niche your trying to rank for.
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    • Profile picture of the author hassan001
      Originally Posted by Skid_Roe View Post

      The best way to get a high PR is by getting backlinks from high PR sites.

      It's best to keep a mixture of both do follow and no follow links to make it look a bit more natural to Google.

      You can easily find some high PR urls through Google by using SEO Quake (any other recommendations? Anyone?) and typing in the niche your trying to rank for.
      You can try senuke x for getting more link juice to your site and can also hire some blog commenter to comment on blogs that ones more than of PR 4-5 to get higher PR.....
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      • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shane Roe
        Originally Posted by hassan001 View Post

        You can try senuke x for getting more link juice to your site and can also hire some blog commenter to comment on blogs that ones more than of PR 4-5 to get higher PR.....
        I can't exactly say anything regarding Senuke X. Personally, I've never used it.

        But yea, essentially that's exactly what I said.. Comment on high PR sites...

        You have to take into account the number of links that are on the page though. The less links that are located on that page the higher PR juice you're site/page will get.
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  • Profile picture of the author isimrikasharma
    I believe your links are from the pages which are not relevant to the content of your site. Try to grab about a 1000-1500 links from article marketing using articles which are on the same topic as your site is.

    I know 1000-1500 seems t be a big number but believe me it is not going to be very difficult task. All you have to do is write 10 articles and submit them to about 100 article directories.

    Consider outsourcing.
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  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    To increase your PR you need backlinks of quality, not quantity.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marc_L
      Originally Posted by UMS View Post

      To increase your PR you need backlinks of quality, not quantity.
      You need PR links whether they are quality or not is another subject.
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    • Profile picture of the author Orient Holdings
      I have not got any PR backlinks i have done a google profile submitted to all the major directories and tried to get links from FB,squidoo,twitter etc and still non :-(
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  • Profile picture of the author johnwalker
    I just read your problem. I opened your website. Google not showing any links,it means that you have all no follow link for your site. Try to do only do-follow blogs. Google will give the quality links to your site. Automatically your site get page-Rank.Thank you..
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  • Profile picture of the author peter2412
    Google Page Rank(PR) is important to show your website or web page reputation according to Google Algorithm. You can increase your website page rank by creating good quality inbound links.
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  • Profile picture of the author tahoecale
    so just use google blog search and find blogs with good pr and not that many links on it.

    is that the easiest way?
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    • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shane Roe
      Originally Posted by tahoecale View Post

      so just use google blog search and find blogs with good pr and not that many links on it.

      is that the easiest way?

      That's one way. Alternatively you can install SEOQuake (or another plugin like it - Firefox) and do a google search using:


      Niche "leave a comment"


      Niche will be whatever your site is about.. Leave a comment will search for blogs/sites/pages that have the ability to leave comments on them.
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      • Profile picture of the author tahoecale
        Originally Posted by Skid_Roe View Post

        That's one way. Alternatively you can install SEOQuake (or another plugin like it - Firefox) and do a google search using:


        Niche "leave a comment"


        Niche will be whatever your site is about.. Leave a comment will search for blogs/sites/pages that have the ability to leave comments on them.


        Do you use the "" around the leave a comment or just google something like this

        baseball cards leave a comment
        Or like this?
        baseball cards "leave a comment"
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shane Roe
    Use the quotations.

    Example:

    "Weight Loss" "Leave a comment" ".edu/.gov/.com/.net/.org/.info"

    The first one will be your niche keyword, the second will be finding pages that allow you to leave comments and the third will be the domain extention you want to look for. Great for finding .edu and .gov links to comment on.
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  • Profile picture of the author bradudan
    I have lots of ideas of getting high page rank PAGES backllinks.

    1. See my WSo
    2. Find some blogs with high page rank on page and make a good comentary ..

    Ckeck here : for an small ex : osCommerce Blog &mdash; osCommerce and the BSD License

    Page rank 7 on page with my method . Check the notes link to see the backlinks.. So i have thousands of pr4-7 pages for you . )

    They are upthere .. Find 'em..
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    • Profile picture of the author SeoKnightsInc
      Originally Posted by bradudan View Post

      I have lots of ideas of getting high page rank PAGES backllinks.

      1. See my WSo
      2. Find some blogs with high page rank on page and make a good comentary ..

      Ckeck here : for an small ex : osCommerce Blog &mdash; osCommerce and the BSD License

      Page rank 7 on page with my method . Check the notes link to see the backlinks.. So i have thousands of pr4-7 pages for you . )

      They are upthere .. Find 'em..
      I think he was asking for free resource not for your WSO. Also you have thousands of blogs then tell me are they auto approve and do follow if not then there are thousand of list on internet for free which claims the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author benroger
    Please do focus on getting some quality backlinks, does not matter how much these are in quantity. Relevance is the key to success here.
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  • Profile picture of the author SamuelUherek
    Get some articles with relevant content from high PR domains. For example, search for relevant blogs in your niche ask them for a guest post. Then make the article unique, relevant to your website keywords and put the link in the articles. You can do the same with web 2.0. After that, blast the submitted articles with backlinks (choose those links wisely. not spam links) over time to get the PR of their URL higher. After that you should see some moving in PR on your money site. But only if you can make the PR of the other URLs higher. I guess this is the cheapest solution.
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  • Profile picture of the author zoomsixx
    Not to promote any product but I generally just scrape up a bunch of niche related blogs using Scrapebox. I then run it throughout the built in PR checker. There is also a blog analyzer that will let you know more about each site. Contextual back links are very important however so I must agree with SamuelUherek. Good strategy!
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  • Profile picture of the author niknik
    yes good advice SamuelUherek,
    find related blogs and request some guest posts.it can work really well
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  • Profile picture of the author Henri Lind
    do-follow blog commenting is the fastest way. easy way is ordering some service in this forum or hard way by doing it yourself. Some of my sites went from PR0 to PR5 with 1 update.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      A lot of stuff here. But let's get a reality check.

      And this will be a rare time I give away a secret, along
      with an explanation. This may get buried in the forum,
      so be it. A few may see it and benefit. Or at least have
      something to mull over.

      You want free PR? Free PR is out there. You get PR by
      a link, anywhere, that is not nofollow. All that matters is
      that google finds and counts the link. Make all the pages,
      blogs, sites, etc. that you can. There is a plethora of
      freebies, from squidoo to wordpress, and blogspot to
      ezinearticles.

      Any link counts in this genre, and notably internal linking.
      Yes, internal links are links.

      It is a myth that you need high PR links. This is where the
      explanation comes in. Let's say you are PR2. The logic
      here touted is that one would need PR3 and above to
      get to PR3. And if one was PR3, they would need PR4,
      and so on. Can you imagine a PR6 site needing to get
      PR7 links to move up? That would be a daunting task.

      And that would mean you need to be the only link
      on that PR7 page to get full benefit. That would be
      virtually impossible. So, logic would hold that since
      this would be impossible to always get higher, solo
      PR links, then it must be impossible to move up.
      Nothing could be further form the truth. A PR2 site
      could well move up to PR3 and above, based solely
      on PR0-PR2 links.

      PR is all about votes. And all links that count are votes.
      So any and all links counted will help you move up.

      Now granted, you created a page and the PR is n/a. But
      in a very short time the page should naturally move up
      to PR0, provided one does the most minimal things. Not
      hard.

      So go out and create your link empire using YOUR sites.

      How do you think wikipedia got to PR9? From only
      PR10 links? I'd like someone to find me just one PR10
      link that wikipedia has. I'd wager the only PR9 links they
      have are internal.

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author gvannorman
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        A lot of stuff here. But let's get a reality check.

        And this will be a rare time I give away a secret, along
        with an explanation. This may get buried in the forum,
        so be it. A few may see it and benefit. Or at least have
        something to mull over.

        You want free PR? Free PR is out there. You get PR by
        a link, anywhere, that is not nofollow. All that matters is
        that google finds and counts the link. Make all the pages,
        blogs, sites, etc. that you can. There is a plethora of
        freebies, from squidoo to wordpress, and blogspot to
        ezinearticles.

        Any link counts in this genre, and notably internal linking.
        Yes, internal links are links.

        It is a myth that you need high PR links. This is where the
        explanation comes in. Let's say you are PR2. The logic
        here touted is that one would need PR3 and above to
        get to PR3. And if one was PR3, they would need PR4,
        and so on. Can you imagine a PR6 site needing to get
        PR7 links to move up? That would be a daunting task.

        And that would mean you need to be the only link
        on that PR7 page to get full benefit. That would be
        virtually impossible. So, logic would hold that since
        this would be impossible to always get higher, solo
        PR links, then it must be impossible to move up.
        Nothing could be further form the truth. A PR2 site
        could well move up to PR3 and above, based solely
        on PR0-PR2 links.

        PR is all about votes. And all links that count are votes.
        So any and all links counted will help you move up.

        Now granted, you created a page and the PR is n/a. But
        in a very short time the page should naturally move up
        to PR0, provided one does the most minimal things. Not
        hard.

        So go out and create your link empire using YOUR sites.

        How do you think wikipedia got to PR9? From only
        PR10 links? I'd like someone to find me just one PR10
        link that wikipedia has.

        Paul
        This is a good point. I have been trying to get high PR links. I never really thought of it in this manner. I want to thank you for this.
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        • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
          That is good stuff. It took me a long time to figure out the value of every page on any of my sites. On each page I always link once to the home page in the body of the article as well as another relevant page on the site. Most of the time the links are distracting and I'm doing it for the internal linking alone. Because of this, I usually make the link close to the text color (I only want the link--the blue link is distracting in the article).

          I learned this from a friend who always had many links on each page. With every new blog he started he achieved a pr 3 or 4 from zero by the very next update.
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      • Profile picture of the author lagger
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        A lot of stuff here. But let's get a reality check.

        And this will be a rare time I give away a secret, along
        with an explanation. This may get buried in the forum,
        so be it. A few may see it and benefit. Or at least have
        something to mull over.

        You want free PR? Free PR is out there. You get PR by
        a link, anywhere, that is not nofollow. All that matters is
        that google finds and counts the link. Make all the pages,
        blogs, sites, etc. that you can. There is a plethora of
        freebies, from squidoo to wordpress, and blogspot to
        ezinearticles.

        Any link counts in this genre, and notably internal linking.
        Yes, internal links are links.

        It is a myth that you need high PR links. This is where the
        explanation comes in. Let's say you are PR2. The logic
        here touted is that one would need PR3 and above to
        get to PR3. And if one was PR3, they would need PR4,
        and so on. Can you imagine a PR6 site needing to get
        PR7 links to move up? That would be a daunting task.

        And that would mean you need to be the only link
        on that PR7 page to get full benefit. That would be
        virtually impossible. So, logic would hold that since
        this would be impossible to always get higher, solo
        PR links, then it must be impossible to move up.
        Nothing could be further form the truth. A PR2 site
        could well move up to PR3 and above, based solely
        on PR0-PR2 links.

        PR is all about votes. And all links that count are votes.
        So any and all links counted will help you move up.

        Now granted, you created a page and the PR is n/a. But
        in a very short time the page should naturally move up
        to PR0, provided one does the most minimal things. Not
        hard.

        So go out and create your link empire using YOUR sites.

        How do you think wikipedia got to PR9? From only
        PR10 links? I'd like someone to find me just one PR10
        link that wikipedia has. I'd wager the only PR9 links they
        have are internal.

        Paul
        This is all you need to know. Close thread topic is done..
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      • Profile picture of the author CreativeFlair
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        A lot of stuff here. But let's get a reality check.

        And this will be a rare time I give away a secret, along
        with an explanation. This may get buried in the forum,
        so be it. A few may see it and benefit. Or at least have
        something to mull over.

        You want free PR? Free PR is out there. You get PR by
        a link, anywhere, that is not nofollow. All that matters is
        that google finds and counts the link. Make all the pages,
        blogs, sites, etc. that you can. There is a plethora of
        freebies, from squidoo to wordpress, and blogspot to
        ezinearticles.

        Any link counts in this genre, and notably internal linking.
        Yes, internal links are links.

        It is a myth that you need high PR links. This is where the
        explanation comes in. Let's say you are PR2. The logic
        here touted is that one would need PR3 and above to
        get to PR3. And if one was PR3, they would need PR4,
        and so on. Can you imagine a PR6 site needing to get
        PR7 links to move up? That would be a daunting task.

        And that would mean you need to be the only link
        on that PR7 page to get full benefit. That would be
        virtually impossible. So, logic would hold that since
        this would be impossible to always get higher, solo
        PR links, then it must be impossible to move up.
        Nothing could be further form the truth. A PR2 site
        could well move up to PR3 and above, based solely
        on PR0-PR2 links.

        PR is all about votes. And all links that count are votes.
        So any and all links counted will help you move up.

        Now granted, you created a page and the PR is n/a. But
        in a very short time the page should naturally move up
        to PR0, provided one does the most minimal things. Not
        hard.

        So go out and create your link empire using YOUR sites.

        How do you think wikipedia got to PR9? From only
        PR10 links? I'd like someone to find me just one PR10
        link that wikipedia has. I'd wager the only PR9 links they
        have are internal.

        Paul
        It is often easier to get 1 good PR link than the hundreds/thousands of PR 1 and 2 links which would be the equivalent, particularly the higher up the chain you get. The more links you get, the more links you risk losing.
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  • Profile picture of the author App Developers
    Lost of great points! I have been trying to move up from a page rank 3 for a long time. I do have lots of great traffic so I decided not to worry about page rank as much. good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author danlew
    If you find it hard to get high PR links for your website, the best way to do it is outsourcing. I know this might cost you too much just to get high PR links, but this is really an effective way for you to get them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Theeban
    If you need high PR, you have to place your link on HIGH PR page which is very happy to offer you dofollow links and has only very few outbound links. Even, if that is related to your niche, that would be awesome. Not only to get high PR, but also to get improve in SERP, that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author extremejava
      Visit a website in your niche then search for that site on Alexa to get a list of backlinks.
      That will you places where your niche websites are getting backlinks from and you can follow them.

      No need to search google if you follow that.
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    I recommend guest blogging.
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  • Profile picture of the author eurekapsycrille
    How long you've been building links? Sometimes people are whining about their PR is not increasing but totally unaware of the PR updates that is occurring in Google.

    So, if you have just started, just build links until you get the PR you want for that particular page.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    Originally Posted by tahoecale View Post

    i never can get more than a page rank of 2 i have my link on tons of blog comments and sig links on forums i really don't know what else to do?

    can anyone please shoot me some ideas.
    You need to look at the PR of the post itself. When I comment manually, I very rarely comment on anything lower than PR2. Also, make sure the comments are dofollow.
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    • Profile picture of the author tahoecale
      Originally Posted by eurekapsycrille View Post

      How long you've been building links? Sometimes people are whining about their PR is not increasing but totally unaware of the PR updates that is occurring in Google.

      So, if you have just started, just build links until you get the PR you want for that particular page.

      I have been working on it for 4 months.



      Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

      You need to look at the PR of the post itself. When I comment manually, I very rarely comment on anything lower than PR2. Also, make sure the comments are dofollow.


      would posting on pr1 and pr0's hurt my pr? also how can you tell if it is a dofollow comment box?
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  • Profile picture of the author gsmbooster
    The best way to increase page rank of your site and that too for free are: Social bookmarking, Forum posting, Link wheel, Article submission, Blog commenting and Directory submission.
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  • Profile picture of the author tahoecale
    Does anyone have a list of free blogs with high pr just like wordpress?
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    • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shane Roe
      Originally Posted by tahoecale View Post

      Does anyone have a list of free blogs with high pr just like wordpress?
      I had one, I'll try to remember where I put it.

      Just so you know though.. Because the blog site has a high page rank doesn't mean YOUR blog will. A page rank is just that... A ranking of an individual page. You're not going to get any juice from a PR9 Wordpress.com site - not unless they give you a do-follow link on their homepage (which they won't).

      It's great for building link pyramids though
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      • Profile picture of the author tahoecale
        Originally Posted by Skid_Roe View Post

        I had one, I'll try to remember where I put it.

        Just so you know though.. Because the blog site has a high page rank doesn't mean YOUR blog will. A page rank is just that... A ranking of an individual page. You're not going to get any juice from a PR9 Wordpress.com site - not unless they give you a do-follow link on their homepage (which they won't).

        It's great for building link pyramids though

        So how do you get a high pr if blog commenting or making a wordpress site dont work... what else is there to do?
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shane Roe
    You will get a higher ranking by doing that.

    What I'm saying though is that PAGES have a PR - not sites.

    The homepage can be a PR9 but that doesn't mean any posts you comment on will be a PR9, it could be PR2, PR5 or have no PR at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author tahoecale
      Originally Posted by Skid_Roe View Post

      You will get a higher ranking by doing that.

      What I'm saying though is that PAGES have a PR - not sites.

      The homepage can be a PR9 but that doesn't mean any posts you comment on will be a PR9, it could be PR2, PR5 or have no PR at all.

      Ok so just check the page you leave a comment on to see its PR and is that how you get a good PR?
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      • Profile picture of the author ramanpradhan42
        There are so many best ways to get a high PR for free.
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      • Profile picture of the author Seolawyer
        Originally Posted by tahoecale View Post

        Ok so just check the page you leave a comment on to see its PR and is that how you get a good PR?

        I recommend to estimate in a complex a blog which make comments. The page can not have PR, but receive it later.

        And diluting of anchor sheet is very useful.

        The main thing, what the made comments blog was qualitative. At us it is called SFP - "a site for people", and not just for positions in TOP.
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  • Profile picture of the author Seolawyer
    Hi! I have come today on a forum the first time. Me theme PR interests.

    In my region PR it is not important for advancement. At us it is important TIC - a thematic index of citing.

    To receive PR3-4 at us it is possible having put only 5-10 external references.

    I recommend to exchange references with Russian sites.

    To whom the necessary free references from Russian sites with PR3-4 - write me to personal messages.
    I will be glad to the international friendship on interests.

    Forgive for my bad language Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author javageek
    social book marking,article submission plays a crucial role in backlink building.

    I checked your site, concept is good
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  • Profile picture of the author bappa06
    Please keep in mind that you are going to 1 PR. kindly ensure one thing that there may be 2 method. First is that simple SEM, you have to pay Google for 1st ranking. but this way is most costly. so on the other hand you have just effort Seo onpage and offpage. This will be very slow procedure but cost saving. you have to get most favorite back link for this off page seo.
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  • Profile picture of the author SammyBlackstar
    If you aren't investing money you will HAVE to at some point. Trying to do SEO on the cheap was the worst mistake. If I had decided to spend money on HIGH QUALITY HIGH PR Backlinks earlier I'd be making 3 times as much by now.
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  • Profile picture of the author nunugenius
    high pagerank backlink is great, but its hard to find out him, if you can making backlink from high pagerank page, so you easyly to ranked on google.

    just open the thread because there is no prefix [ASK], I think you'll share the way to find high pagerank backlink . ... huff
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  • Profile picture of the author serveideas
    Off Page SEO strategy like DIR,Articles,Blogs,Forums & social networking is the best way to improve your PR free.
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    • Profile picture of the author tahoecale
      Originally Posted by serveideas View Post

      Off Page SEO strategy like DIR,Articles,Blogs,Forums & social networking is the best way to improve your PR free.

      does it matter if the forum/blog is not in your niche?
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      Google wrote:
      PageRank Technology:
      PageRank reflects our view of the importance of web pages by considering more than 500 million variables and 2 billion terms. Pages that we believe are important pages receive a higher PageRank and are more likely to appear at the top of the search results. PageRank also considers the importance of each page that casts a vote, as votes from some pages are considered to have greater value, thus giving the linked page greater value. We have always taken a pragmatic approach to help improve search quality and create useful products, and our technology uses the collective intelligence of the web to determine a page's importance.
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  • Profile picture of the author rain21
    I tihnk guest posting on high PR blogs is the best way to gain you high PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author Price98
    You can try quality back links on high ranking do-follow site to increase your web page rank. So you should try do-follow forum posting, do-follow blog commenting, article submission, do-follow bookmarking etc. Thanks and all the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke Rafferty
    It is best to try and get link diversity from higher pr pages then your own and then try and get lots of back links running to your high pr back links
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  • Profile picture of the author yougpeter
    Really you need write ton of article in the article sites with page rank more 6.
    Also you need to check you product related sites with high page rank.Its important your niche sites.Most of times you can comment intelligent comment. This is start.
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    • Profile picture of the author Orient Holdings
      I have used social monkee with no effect.....i still have no pr backlinks.
      anyone got any ideas of the easiest pr backlink to get ???
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  • Profile picture of the author roadies9
    add some orginal content in ur website and then see the results
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  • Profile picture of the author tahoecale
    would it be good to get a backlink from a site that has nothing to do with your niche.. but the forum or blog has a good pr? this will most likely not get you any traffic because the people in the forum want nothing to do with your site, but its a backlink from a high pr forum.. and you will see results in google ranking.. True Or False?
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    • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shane Roe
      Originally Posted by tahoecale View Post

      would it be good to get a backlink from a site that has nothing to do with your niche.. but the forum or blog has a good pr? this will most likely not get you any traffic because the people in the forum want nothing to do with your site, but its a backlink from a high pr forum.. and you will see results in google ranking.. True Or False?
      In my testing, I've found it's better to leave backlinks on relevant niches. Although, you would still get juice from the non related ones.

      Basically.. Focus on your niche backlinks but if you stumble across one that is just to good to pass up, then leave your link.
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  • Profile picture of the author prian
    link diversity, here is a link to 90 link building ideas, I happen to bookmark one similar thread on WF but its already goner

    90 Weird & Interesting Link Building Ideas | SEO Blog - Quantum SEO Labs
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  • Profile picture of the author BettyCharlotte
    Have each page linking to several other pages on your site (crosslinking). That should be especially helpful for balancing the page ranking across different pages of your site, and of course it should help your visitors to find related content on your site.
    Try to include a few outbound links to high quality sites in every document. That indicates a quality connection between your document and others sites that Google already considers to be quality sites. When linking to those sites, try to include the important keywords in those links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monika Verma
    hi dear,
    I want to say you one thing,getting high PR is not a cup of tea, You have do so many efforts to get high PR and for this you have to gain quality back links, follow on page seo strategies, create quality content for your site and in recent smo activities are also playing very important role for this.
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  • Profile picture of the author strategic seo services
    Build dofollow backlinks on sites that have a high PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author jtrunner33
    If you are truly only interested in increasing the PR to your page then get links from pages that have higher PR than yours. If you can do it you can get one PR 8 link with minimal OBL's and your page probably will be PR 5 at the next update. However, this is very volatile and I would not recommend this. Get hundreds of PR 0 links and build up from there.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Yes but even on "high PR" blogs
    go search find a PR 5 blog, great,
    then try and comment, the comment pages are "unranked" NO PR
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    Quickest way to up your page rank that I never see talked about here is PPC.

    This is what I can tell you with no experience in this.
    My competitors all have a rank of 1-2 (none higher than 2) and some of them have thousands upon thousands of backlinks.

    My strongest competitor has 15,000 backlinks. I have like 67 I think.
    However, my site is ranked 3 and his is 2.

    The reason is (imo) he doesn't do any PPC. Just seo. I focused on just PPC for a while (paying someone outside the company) and I think just getting tons of traffic alone w/out backlinks can up your page rank.

    Still however, the competitor with backlinks beats me in google searches. Although his site is ranked less. Go figure.
    I'm not saying SEO isn't important but I think a combination of PPC/SEO is ultimately the best & fastest way to rank a site. When I look at my competitors it seems they either have tons of ads up, or no ads and tons of backlinks. But very few of them have a balanced integration of both SEO/PPC which is what I'm aiming for.

    I think how things are situated now, having no backlinks but a better rank, once I do SEO our site should hopefully obliterate our competitors.

    Likely not, but doesn't hurt to dream. We somehow beat them all in page rank with no SEO, so I can't imagine what adding SEO will do for our business.
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      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      I think a combination of PPC/SEO is ultimately the best & fastest way to rank a site.
      You are the first person whom i ever meet says that PPC is also necessary for ranking and PPC will increase your Page Rank !!! when we have to waste our money to feed Google for ads then whats the use of SEO ?
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Every time I find high PR blogs to comment on, the comment pages have PR
    "unranked"
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  • Profile picture of the author cheehowan
    Try university student union sites
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  • Profile picture of the author glock67
    get backlinks from sites with a higher pageranks than yours
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  • Profile picture of the author maxrezn
    Post #35 pretty much put the nail in the coffin...
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  • Profile picture of the author reyhan
    There is no shortcut. only try to provide valuable link.
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  • Profile picture of the author Avy Smith
    Originally Posted by tahoecale View Post

    i never can get more than a page rank of 2 i have my link on tons of blog comments and sig links on forums i really don't know what else to do?

    can anyone please shoot me some ideas.
    It depends upon the nature of the backlinks that you are getting. Probably hundreds good would have done better than thousands of bogus backlinks. It depends upon the pr of the source as well the backlinks you are getting from.

    For instance, if your social bookmarking choices are else than Reddit, Slashdot, SU, Dropjack and Digg etc you will get lowest possible traffic rate per post; if your web 2.0 posts are not posted on Weebly, Squidoo, Live Journal and Posterous etc you will not get quality backlinks as well and if your chosen article directories are else than the those that really can help your business's marketing plan then you may see further drop down.

    Make a good plan and work on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author pontiffjane1
    Originally Posted by tahoecale View Post

    i never can get more than a page rank of 2 i have my link on tons of blog comments and sig links on forums i really don't know what else to do?

    can anyone please shoot me some ideas.
    You should try back linking for page ranking. try backlinksindexer for best result.
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  • Profile picture of the author tahoecale
    so do i just go to any forum... something that has nothing to do with my niche? and get a sig link? or does it have to be in a post?
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Shane Roe
    Your backlinks need to come from relevant sites, and yes, they can be in signature links.

    If you add me on Skype I'll help ya out.

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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    My little contribution:

    To attain a high page rank, your site needs to have several pages with unique content.

    Do not just build links to your home page but also to your inner pages.

    You need no follow and do follows links.

    Build back links to other sites like articles directories, web 2.0 linking to your site. As this sites moves high in PR it will also help your site to be an authority site as well as increase your PR too.

    Here is a PDF http://pagerank7.xtrememind.com/howtogetpagerank7.pdf, it was written in 2006 but there is still a lot you can learn from there.
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    Remember one of the first suggestions?!? One thousand backlinks can help you reach PR2.
    ONE PR6 backlink could help you reach PR5 (of course if it has only 1 or 2 OBL)

    Quality is the key to success here
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  • Profile picture of the author GyuMan82
    Create really good content that people want to link to.

    Also guest posting works well.
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  • Profile picture of the author freshspacecoffee
    I set my google adwords cpc at 40 cents. Does anyone think I'll get anything from my campaign or am I really lowballing the cpc? I'm trying to get my new blog off the ground.

    Chris
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