Subdomains and PPC, Will They Help Or Hurt?

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Hi Stupid Question here....

Would there be a problem in using a subdomain in your PPC ad to go with your keywords.

For instance, let' s that your offer and keywords were red tissue paper.

Can you do your own page (not a redirect or masking) as http://redtissuepaper.mycoolshortdomainname.com?

Would or might that cause a quality score problem?

Would it matter if you had some content on the root domain of mycoolshortdomainname.com?

But now let's say that you DID direct link to an offer or page and masked it with the subdomain; would that be a problem.

I guess I could just test and find out, but I am wondering if I am wasting my time by doing so.

Thanks,
Charles
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  • Profile picture of the author UMRK
    I don't think the subdomain would be a problem, but wouldn't you have to have mycoolshortdomainname.com in the description URL? Unless that domain name is relative to red tissue paper it may be short but not so cool.

    Don't know for sure about masking but it's my guess that it's a slappable offense.
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    • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
      Originally Posted by UMRK View Post

      I don't think the subdomain would be a problem, but wouldn't you have to have mycoolshortdomainname.com in the description URL? Unless that domain name is relative to red tissue paper it may be short but not so cool.

      Don't know for sure about masking but it's my guess that it's a slappable offense.
      That is the thing..the domain name would not be relevant, but the subdomain would be. It sounds like this is a no go, if my general domain would offend google.

      But if anyone else has thoughts, I would like to know.

      Charles
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      • Profile picture of the author UMRK
        Google wouldn't be offended. if your display URL and destination URL have the same .com name, it doesn't matter if the destination is a subdomain.

        I was trying to say that if your ad is about red tissue paper and your display URL says bigtrucks .com, that may not be a great ad. Google wont care, but you may as an advertiser that wants red tissue buyers.

        It shouldn't matter what the content is on the main domain. Your relevancy needs to be with the keywords, your ad, and your landing page.
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      • Profile picture of the author askloz
        The domain name only pays a small part of the QS rating.

        for as long as there is the phrase in the domain, then it's fine, including a subdomain..


        Originally Posted by Charles Harper View Post

        That is the thing..the domain name would not be relevant, but the subdomain would be. It sounds like this is a no go, if my general domain would offend google.

        But if anyone else has thoughts, I would like to know.

        Charles
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        • Profile picture of the author internetbill
          This really inst a stupid question the fact is that there are many PPC programs that wont allow you to use a subdomain. However a majority of PPC providers wouldn't have a problem with whatever url you use as long as they get paid.
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        • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
          Originally Posted by askloz View Post

          The domain name only pays a small part of the QS rating.

          for as long as there is the phrase in the domain, then it's fine, including a subdomain..
          askloz...are you saying that the domain name must be directly relevant? Or can you have the domain be sort of generic and have the subdomain be unique with keywords?

          Charles
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          • Profile picture of the author Neil Forry
            I am setting up a few new campaigns and was wondering the same. If you were to set up three campaigns with these destinations:

            CoolProduct.xyz.com
            xyz.com/CoolProduct
            CoolProduct.com

            Which would perform better? I plan to use either of the first two until I can prove the campaign to be successful, then move to the third option as it's the cheapest option

            What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author bimawarrior
    Hi Charles, I am currently working on ebay affiliate site that sells several product using subdomain.

    The main domain has nothing in it, and I manage to get ok to great keywords.

    I think google consider each subdomain as a different domain.

    Hope that help

    Hendra
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    • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
      Originally Posted by bimawarrior View Post

      Hi Charles, I am currently working on ebay affiliate site that sells several product using subdomain.

      The main domain has nothing in it, and I manage to get ok to great keywords.

      I think google consider each subdomain as a different domain.

      Hope that help

      Hendra
      So you think it might be okay to do an Adwords campaign let's say again for Red Tissue Paper, in with this domain...

      http://RedTissuePaper.genericdomain.com

      Of course, I would use generic domain in other instances with other subdomains, for other adwords campaigns. Sometimes, I would use the subdomain to mask a CPA offer. For instance:

      RedTissuePaper.genericdomain.com

      might mask a CPA offer for Red Tissue Paper. (direct linking)

      Then at the same time, I might do

      FreeNikonCamera.genericdomain.com

      That would be for another CPA Offer (direct linking)

      My question is whether Google would penalize me for doing that.

      My second question is whether Google would penalize for using those same domain names in an Adwords Campaign where I had my own landing pages.

      I will PM you just in case you would rather answer there.

      Charles
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  • Profile picture of the author theaffiliatemom
    Rather than subdomain (which looks "messy"), why not use a redirect. So that your link would be: www.genericdomain.com/redtissuepaper

    Looks less of an obvious affiliate tactic. (IMO)
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    Then you must be working with the wrong ppc networks. I've been involved with over 25 of the buggas and never had a problem with subdomains.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
    Y'all are the man...er men.

    Thanks,
    Charles
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