Build Your Very Own Adsense Empire - No Bull**** Guide!

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NOTE: Read this is you are struggling or new. You are going to make money if you follow the advice here. You may also decide that IM is not for you, because this is a load of hard work.

UPDATE: once your'e done with this post, read my quick niche research example here.

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I've been reading the forum for a while now, answering questions where I can. It seems like this place gets thousands of newbie visitors every single day, as the same threads are created daily.

I also recognize that most of you are never going to make it in IM. That's because you aren't treating this as a business, lack motivation, have no focus, want to get rick quick now, etc. That's fine.

Here's a tested strategy that I've been using to build up a side business which doesn't require a lot of babysitting.

Basically, what I do is create medium sized, high quality information websites and get the pages ranked #1 for multiple keywords. Then, once traffic starts to pick up, I add Adsense and start optimising. Keep some of the sites, sell (flip) the rest.

I'll structure this post into several key sections, but feel free to ask questions in the thread. This is just a quick overview.

1. Keyword research (selection)

I honestly have no idea which way is best, but I tend to follow these rules:
  • Pick keywords that get a minimum of 5000+ exact match local US searches for main keywords.
  • For inner pages I'll take anything that gets over 300+ exact match local US searches.
  • Must have high/medium Adwords competition (Google KWT) and a decent CPC $1+.

Okay so here goes the whole process...

1. Decide what will be the main keyword. Lets call it keyword1, it has high Adwords competition, CPC of $1+ and gets 6600 exact local US searches.

2. Put this keyword into Google KWT and pick 3-5 closely related keywords that make sense to use in the same article as sub-headings. This is important, because I always go for top quality.

So now we have 3-5 keywords with CPCs of $1+, medium/high Adwords competition and search counts of 300+ exact match US local. These keywords complement keyword1 well.

3. Now the task is to choose keywords for inner pages. Call these keyword2, keyword3, keyword4 and keyword5.

These should be around 700+ exact local US searches, at least medium Adwords CPC and -this is important- they must not be the same (or variations) of keywords used to build the homepage.

Think about it. You want your inner pages to complement the homepage nicely. To be like an extension of it. No need to repeat the same (homepage) info over and over again in the inner pages.

4. Once you have your inner page keywords ready, it's time to find 1-2 related sub-heading keywords for each of them. These can be anything related (must make sense in the article) with at least 300+ local US exact match searches.

2. Domain name selection

I know that EMDs (exact match domains) are still all the craze, but I honestly don't use them.
  • I use partial EMDs that make sense and can be branded.
  • Only .com

Most of my sites are bestkeyword1.com or topkeyword1.com or aboutkeyword1.com or keyword1advice.com or keyword1fast.com or keyword1quickly.com... you get the point.

Because I'm not obsessed with finding EMDs, I tend to go after much more lucrative keywords.

3. Website structure

1. Homepage. I go with at least 1500 words of quality content. Most of my sites have 2000 word homepages. This allows me to rank for multiple keywords.

Homepage structure:

[page title - main keyword]
[intro paragraph]
[contents table]
[sub-heading1 (remember keywords)]
[sub-heading2]
[sub-heading3]
...
[conclusion]
[either related posts area or a disclaimer if needed]

Now don't forget to format the whole thing properly. Put the main keyword in h1 tags and each sub-heading in h2 tags.

Content tables aren't necessary, but they do help. Especially if the page is long. Think about user experience.

Related posts at the end are not necessary either, it's all up to you and what you think would improve visitor experience.

I always have Facebook like and Google+ buttons at the top of the page, under article title. This is important to me, because most of the sites I have get regular likes (daily). That tells me that people love the sites. Great.

Inner-pages.

Pretty much the same as the homepage, but less content.
  • Articles 500 to 1200 words long (depends on the topic and how many sub-headings you have for each article).
  • Same structure. Don't forget to h1 and h2 relevant keywords/titles.
  • Don't forget Facebook like/Google+ buttons.
  • Related posts at the end if you feel they are needed. In most cases I have Google Ads there.

Important.

Format the articles well. Use related images/pictures throughout, place them inside the text nicely.

Some more structure stuff.

I only use WordPress. I like it, find it easy to use and all that. No other reason.

All of my sites have static homepages. Inner pages are set as "pages" as well. I don't use "posts" at first, but I do have a "page" called /blog or /articles for future use (if I want to expand the site and add a blog part).

Get rid of all the crap links. Credentials, meta stuff, bylines, all that crap goes. Clean and nice.

4. Rankings

Okay, there's a lot to talk about here and I can't cover it all. Just a quick summary.

Week One

Build the site, add homepage content and 2 inner pages. Set the other 3-4 pages to be posted weekly.

Blast the homepage with 1000+ social bookmarks using 4-5 anchor text titles (remember main keyword+sub-headings). I do this on days 3-5 or whatever...

Get someone to send 100+ Facebook likes and 20 or more Google+1s to your homepage. This is important to get the ball rolling. People are hesitant to "like" a site until they see others doing it. It really does make a massive difference.

Week Two

Purchase 5-10 high quality blog posts. Unique content, PR4+ blogs. Drip feed these over 3-5 days. I only use the main keyword, one URL per blog post and target the homepage only.

Week Three

Get 30+ high PR blog comments to the homepage. Use all of the homepage keywords.

I tend to blast all of the inner pages with 1000+ social bookmarks (200-300 bookmarks per page).

Order a press release. Use the homepage keyword (just one). You need to use a quality service for this, not just any $20 provider.

Week Four

Use ALN (authority link network) to post to 500 or so blogs rotating all of your inner page URLs and using random anchors (blog/article/here/post/my blog/this post/click here, etc).

Use ALN to send 500+ posts to your homepage using loads of anchors (all of your target ones along with click here, here, post, this blog, blog, site, read more, more, to learn more, etc).

ALN posting can easily be outsourced for around $100.

Note that this step is only needed in seriously competitive niches.

I use my own blog network to post 1 blog post a day with an anchor to the homepage. Rotate all homepage keywords and do this for 30-50 days.

Week Five

Note that this step is not compulsory, it all depends on your current rankings.

I like to strengthen my link portfolio and send a huge 3000+ social bookmarking blast to the homepage using 20 or so anchors (random phrases, very short keywords, etc).

Week Six

At this point I'm normally #1 for at least 2-3 homepage keywords. How you proceed from here is up to you. Tweak your pages, rank inner pages, add a blog and do some internal linking to the important pages, etc.

At this point adding a /blog and scheduling 50 or 100 articles to be posted to it over a few months can pay off big time. Only do it if you see that the site has lots of potential.

5. Monetization

I use Adsense. Only add it once the site starts getting 50+ search visitors daily.
  • Make sure that the ads complement the site structure/colours nicely.
  • I don't have ads at the very top.
  • Play around with different placements.
  • Sidebar ads never convert for me.

Some of my best earners are bottom of page ads. Either using a large rectangle (text only) at the end of each article or using two medium rectangles (image only and text only) side-by-side.

I tend to have two 486x60 (I think) text-only ads inside the content. You need to know where your visitors focus most of their attention and place them there.

6. Some extras

Don't obsess with tracking your rankings. I use serpfox.com and find them good for my needs. Cheap as well. Only check rankings once a day. Sometimes less often.

Never used Google Analytics myself, no reason why. I like getclicky. Get a paid (very cheap) version - it's amazing. Real time visitor statistics, etc. Simply amazing.

Aim for a bounce rate below or around 30% (search visitors).

You can try using clicktale.com to find where your visitors are focusing their attention. They have a free account which was enough for me when I got started.

My worst earners average $4-$4.50 daily with Adsense. These sites cost me around $400-$500 each to build and rank (depends on niche). Can go all the way up to $1000 if I see lots of potential - but those earn $10+ daily.

When you have rankings proof, proper visitor statistics and earnings history (at least 3 months of steady earnings) - you can easily flip the site for 15x monthly earnings. It also helps to wait until a PR update hits, because you'll normally get PR3 or so which helps the site look more established.

Sell some of the sites, keep the rest.

I'm pretty sure that I've forgotten to mention a lot of important stuff, but this is getting really long. I'll stop here - feel free to ask questions. I may take a while to answer, cause I only check here once a day.

Good luck.
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  • Wow nice article you have gone to a lot of effort there and certainly raise alot of valid points. If your going to start an adsense site following your method would be the way to go and its good to see that your posting realistic earnings rather that over exaggerated earnings
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by Web Design Sunshine Coast View Post

      Wow nice article you have gone to a lot of effort there and certainly raise alot of valid points. If your going to start an adsense site following your method would be the way to go and its good to see that your posting realistic earnings rather that over exaggerated earnings
      Thanks! Didn't take that long to write this up to be honest. Having actually done all of this many times over helps.

      The earnings are what they are, why exaggerate things. One can still make great money from a $4.5/day site (since most of these cost around $400 to build and rank). Keep it for 3-4 months and then sell for $1600 or so.

      Some of the sites make $8+/day just like that. Others only do $5/day no matter how hard you try to optimise. Keep the winners and sell off the losers (if you can call a $5/day site that).

      Another great thing is that if you sell top quality sites, after the first couple of deals, you aren't going to need any of that auction/flippa crap. I sell all of my sites to repeat buyers (also get lots of offers through contact forms on my sites, some of them from pretty big IM guru names).
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  • Profile picture of the author BigNorm
    Nice step by step site set up and promotion and that's not a lot of work when you consider the time it's taken for a lot of us to make consistent money. And that's the trick, consistent money, not sporadic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yeeee Ha
    Very good strategy.

    Thanks for sharing. It will certainly help anyone get started with making a decent income with adsense on the right foot.

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by BigNorm View Post

      Nice step by step site set up and promotion and that's not a lot of work when you consider the time it's taken for a lot of us to make consistent money. And that's the trick, consistent money, not sporadic.
      Yeah. I still make 90% of my income providing services, but this is a good way to transition from "hectic business" to earning a passive income.

      Starting out can be very slow, especially if you're new to all of this. Basic coding knowledge is vital, as well as a good understanding of all the terminology people in IM use every single day.

      Oh and common sense when dealing with service providers.

      Originally Posted by Tom Albas View Post

      Any one use this trick for SEO?
      What trick? There's no trick. This is exactly what works for me right now.

      Originally Posted by Yeeee Ha View Post

      Very good strategy.

      Thanks for sharing. It will certainly help anyone get started with making a decent income with adsense on the right foot.

      Cheers
      No problem.

      I know people who own loads of terribly looking Adsense sites that make $1 on a good day and average $20/month or less... They keep telling me that this stuff is hard and I keep saying no it's not - you're just doing it wrong. But they don't listen.
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      • Profile picture of the author Legit SEO
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

        Yeah. I still make 90% of my income providing services, but this is a good way to transition from "hectic business" to earning a passive income.
        I'm curious as to what type of services you provide? I'm doing the exact opposite of you, 90% of my income is coming from adsense
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    Okay something I completely forgot to include in the OP...

    When it comes to keyword selection, I tend to go with sort of "evergreen" niches: health related (but not very serious - think acne, snoring, healthy skin) and similar.

    The main reason for this is that I just can't force myself to sit there for hours and hours trying to put together keywords for a nice homepage and inner pages on the topic of "underbed shoe storage". I mean it's doable, but it isn't fun and I believe in offering my visitors value. People who are looking for products are looking to buy them.

    So yeah, while I don't necessarily go with topics that I "love" writing about, I definitely try to avoid every product related keyword out there.

    At the very least, if you go after product keywords, use Amazon (or another merchant) for monetization. That way your visitors get some kind of value out of the site. Otherwise it's just a crap site.
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    • Profile picture of the author mejohn
      Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

      Okay something I completely forgot to include in the OP...

      When it comes to keyword selection, I tend to go with sort of "evergreen" niches: health related (but not very serious - think acne, snoring, healthy skin) and similar.

      The main reason for this is that I just can't force myself to sit there for hours and hours trying to put together keywords for a nice homepage and inner pages on the topic of "underbed shoe storage". I mean it's doable, but it isn't fun and I believe in offering my visitors value. People who are looking for products are looking to buy them.

      So yeah, while I don't necessarily go with topics that I "love" writing about, I definitely try to avoid every product related keyword out there.

      At the very least, if you go after product keywords, use Amazon (or another merchant) for monetization. That way your visitors get some kind of value out of the site. Otherwise it's just a crap site.
      I hear what you are saying here. I tend to get better results, though, if I provide great content-filled pages based on products with the adsense at the top. The content is quality & builds Google rankings. The people who are googling the phrases are looking for products. I provide great content so that Google likes me & Adsense links to the products they are looking for @ the top of the page. That brings a much

      My average CTR for this style of site is 4.25%. One of my lower traffic sites averages 25% CTR. My lowest CTR is 1%.

      Honestly, though, I haven't really touched my Adsense sites for about a year now. I still earn residual of $200-300 per month. I'm just too busy with my main business to work on Adsense any more.

      Overall, I love what you are saying in this blog. Great job sharing your knowledge & helping people out. If I had built my sites with as much content as you suggest, I am sure my rankings would be much higher today & my residual income as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    The main reason for this is that I just can't force myself to sit there for hours and hours trying to put together keywords for a nice homepage and inner pages on the topic of "underbed shoe storage". I mean it's doable, but it isn't fun and I believe in offering my visitors value. People who are looking for products are looking to buy them.
    Well dang. How did you find out my biggest money making niche? (Kidding)

    Great post!
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  • Profile picture of the author Maraun
    Great post, thanks for the share. If a shameless plug is allowed, I have a little guide in my sig that helps anyone doing Adsense sites in choosing better, more profitable keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

      Well dang. How did you find out my biggest money making niche? (Kidding)

      Great post!
      Thanks. Yeah along with "box spring mattress" and "teen room wallpaper". Some funny keywords people build MFAs for, seriously.

      Originally Posted by Maraun View Post

      Great post, thanks for the share. If a shameless plug is allowed, I have a little guide in my sig that helps anyone doing Adsense sites in choosing better, more profitable keywords.
      No problem, I don't mind. Never ready any keyword guides myself, just kind of went with what I thought made sense to me at the time... and it seems to be working well.
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  • Profile picture of the author jRad
    Great post man! this has helped me a lot.

    I got one question though - I've been told be a few people that I should go after long tail keywords that are anywhere from 500-1000 global searches a month, cause these are usually untapped.

    If this is true, why do you say to go for keywords that have 5000 word searches?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by jRad View Post

      Great post man! this has helped me a lot.

      I got one question though - I've been told be a few people that I should go after long tail keywords that are anywhere from 500-1000 global searches a month, cause these are usually untapped.

      If this is true, why do you say to go for keywords that have 5000 word searches?
      I go after 5000+ search keywords, because keywords that are in high demand + rankings = traffic = money.

      Seriously though, you can always rank inner pages for 1000 exact search keywords.

      I put $400-$500 into a site and rank the homepage (usually) for up to 10 keywords ranging from 6000+ exact searches to 300+ searches and lord knows how many longtails.

      So yeah, I guess I do it because I know that I can rank them anyway. Same reason for not caring about EMDs - I prefer having all .com domains that I can brand if needed. Doesn't stop me from taking #1s for all of those keywords.

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      • Profile picture of the author jRad
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

        I go after 5000+ search keywords, because keywords that are in high demand + rankings = traffic = money.

        Seriously though, you can always rank inner pages for 1000 exact search keywords.

        I put $400-$500 into a site and rank the homepage (usually) for up to 10 keywords ranging from 6000+ exact searches to 300+ searches and lord knows how many longtails.

        So yeah, I guess I do it because I know that I can rank them anyway. Same reason for not caring about EMDs - I prefer having all .com domains that I can brand if needed. Doesn't stop me from taking #1s for all of those keywords.

        Thanks for the help man!

        When you grab these 5,000 globally searched keywords, are they usually phrases? (like, three keywords), or simply one or two keywords?

        For a newbie like me, I think it'd be best if I target a low competition, not very highly searched keyword, so I don't butcher my confidence in this field. That way when I see I'm #1 on Google in the future for this low competitive keyword, that isn't searched highly, it'll boost my confidence a bit.

        That's my view. If I start off with something like a 5,000 globally search KW, I'd be screwing myself in the end cause it's tough to rank those (or maybe it's not, I just don't know how to).
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    ^^ nah not really that hard to rank. Just do what I have outlined in the OP and you will rank.

    While getting to #1 for a low traffic keyword is easy, it's also pretty disheartening to find that your site only makes $15/month from "all that" traffic.

    Oh and the keywords get 5000+ exact local US searches.

    Forgot to add: keywords are normally phrases that can be easily expanded upon. For example... erm... "anxiety disorders" or "remedies for anxiety". Stuff like that.
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    • Profile picture of the author jRad
      Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

      ^^ nah not really that hard to rank. Just do what I have outlined in the OP and you will rank.

      While getting to #1 for a low traffic keyword is easy, it's also pretty disheartening to find that your site only makes $15/month from "all that" traffic.

      Oh and the keywords get 5000+ exact local US searches.

      Forgot to add: keywords are normally phrases that can be easily expanded upon. For example... erm... "anxiety disorders" or "remedies for anxiety". Stuff like that.
      D'oh! I thought you meant global searches..damn, haha!

      Thanks for the advice man! Just got one quick question left. This isn't my niche, but say I go to GKT and type in, 'skin tags'. Lets say I wanted to educate people on getting rid of skin tags, or treating them. So I type in 'skin tags', and it ends up being medium competition, has 5,400 global searches, and 4,400 local US searches.

      And say I wanted to have 'skin tags' in my domain. What would you suggest? Something like, 'howtogetridofskintags.com', 'learningaboutskintags.com', 'howtotreatskintags.com'... I'm just brainstorming, but how would you tackle it?
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  • Profile picture of the author patrich
    Excellent article and should be a great guide for those getting started or still trying to learn the ropes. I have been doing this for several years now and still picked up a few nice tips so it is definitely worth reading!

    One question for you, what are you using to send out your social bookmarks? BMD, a service or something else?

    Oh and on a side note, totally agree with you on the product keywords. Its pretty painful to sit and write a 1000+ words on red womens boots or something. I always try and stick with a more "generic" term as it makes the content creation much easier.
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  • Profile picture of the author shakil754
    This is a really great post for anyone who wants to start making money from adsense.

    I use s similar method and it works. Period

    Thanks for sharing
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  • Profile picture of the author dminorfmajor
    Great article man, thanks for the info.

    One of the best parts, imo, is capitalizing on using anchor texts OTHER than your may keywords. It's overlooked even by me far too often. This is the natural/organic look that Google goes nuts over.
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  • Profile picture of the author patrich
    Just thought of another question

    I use ALN quite a bit already, when submitting content I usually just take a plr article or something, auto-spin it in TBS and submit. Do you do something similar or are your writing "fresh" content? Do you auto spin, or do a manual spin?

    And, just out of curiosity, why do you choose to wait until the traffic starts flowing to place your adsense? I have tried both waiting until traffic picks up and placing the ads on the site as it is built, across numerous sites and have never found any difference. Seems to be no negative or positive impact either way. Is this just a personal preference or do you know something I don't? lol
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  • Profile picture of the author hammertorch
    I know some of the steps already, i will definitely add some new tips here... thanks for sharing this article,
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  • Profile picture of the author Fatality
    This is one of the best guides I have seen on WF so far. I love how you took us through what you do, especially in regards to what SEO practice you use for each week.
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  • Profile picture of the author scorpi
    Thank you for your very well built guide. If you don't mind could you give an example of your sites. It would be very good form newbies like me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Legit SEO
    Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post


    5. Monetization

    I use Adsense. Only add it once the site starts getting 50+ search visitors daily.
    • Make sure that the ads complement the site structure/colours nicely.
    • I don't have ads at the very top.
    • Play around with different placements.
    • Sidebar ads never convert for me. (same here!)

    Some of my best earners are bottom of page ads. Either using a large rectangle (text only) at the end of each article or using two medium rectangles (image only and text only) side-by-side.

    I tend to have two 486x60 (I think) text-only ads
    inside the content. You need to know where your visitors focus most of their attention and place them there.

    6. Some extras

    Never used Google Analytics myself, no reason why. I like getclicky. Get a paid (very cheap) version - it's amazing. Real time visitor statistics, etc. Simply amazing.

    This is one of the best posts I've seen on here. Thanks for sharing all of this EXTREMELY useful knowledge. I am using a similar strategy and have bolded a few parts I wanted to talk about..

    I've been using CTR theme and only averaging 2-3% CTR the past few days. I've noticed nobody ever clicks on the sidebar banner (160x600 text only) so I am going to try switching it out for a 468x60 in content text box. Thanks for that tip

    I'm also not a big fan of G Analytics myself so I will try out that getclicky you recommended. My only worry is if I want to sell a site eventually. Do you have any problems selling on flippa when you don't have Analytics running? I know that is one thing many people look for when buying, do the getclicky reports work just as well?
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  • Profile picture of the author Bambu
    Newbies, take note. This is pretty solid SEO advice in my opinion and can be used to rank most low to medium competition terms (with medium competition requiring a couple more cycles).

    This is the same advice you will find in many SEO WSOs being sold here. So save your cash, thank the op, and spend that money elsewhere.

    The only section I would add to is the keyword section. This is critical to success. Try and choose keywords with lots of advertisers targeting it. You can determine if lots of advertisers target a keyword by looking at the competition level in Google Keyword Tool. Shoot for keywords that have medium to high advertiser competition. You can also check if advertisers are targeting the keyword by simply doing a Google search in the country you are targeting. If you see lots of Adwords ads, odds are you have found a keyword that lots of advertisers are targeting.

    Your keyword should ideally have some buyer intent. If the majority of your visitors are looking for free entertainment, you won't get many clicks. Case in point, I have a video game website that gets about 5K visitors a day, but has a lousy CTR @ just 0.6%. I have a tech website with a 30% CTR. The only difference being buyer intent of the keywords.

    In addition to the above keyword advice, make sure that the first page of Google search results for the keyword isn't too competitive. Generally, if you see one or more 0 year old pages in the top ten, one or more PR1 pages in the top ten, and one or more pages with less than 300 low PR backlinks, then odds are you have found a good keyword. Also check for on page SEO factors in the top 10 (keyword in title, keyword in description, keyword in H1 tag, keyword in domain, etc)
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by patrich View Post

      One question for you, what are you using to send out your social bookmarks? BMD, a service or something else?
      I own a pretty big SEO agency, we use a variety of tools for this, not BMD though. There are numerous people offering big social bookmarking blasts with prices ranging anywhere from $20 to $40 for 1000 bookmarks. Well worth it.

      Originally Posted by dminorfmajor View Post

      One of the best parts, imo, is capitalizing on using anchor texts OTHER than your may keywords. It's overlooked even by me far too often. This is the natural/organic look that Google goes nuts over.
      Yeah, people talk about it, but few actually take the time to do it properly. Not that my way is the best or anything, but it works for me.

      This step is very important IMO.

      Originally Posted by jRad View Post

      Thanks for the advice man! Just got one quick question left. This isn't my niche, but say I go to GKT and type in, 'skin tags'. Lets say I wanted to educate people on getting rid of skin tags, or treating them. So I type in 'skin tags', and it ends up being medium competition, has 5,400 global searches, and 4,400 local US searches.

      And say I wanted to have 'skin tags' in my domain. What would you suggest? Something like, 'howtogetridofskintags.com', 'learningaboutskintags.com', 'howtotreatskintags.com'... I'm just brainstorming, but how would you tackle it?
      No problem.

      howtogetridofskintags.com and howtotreatskintags.com both look pretty damn perfect for this.

      It all depends on the "intent" of the user really. Say for a keyword like "healthy skin" I'd go with healthyskinguide.com or similar.

      For "get rid of acne" go with howtogetridofacne.com (obviously taken) or getridofacnefast.com or getridofacnequickly.com or waystogetridofacne.com etc... <- all taken, tough niche.

      Originally Posted by patrich View Post

      I use ALN quite a bit already, when submitting content I usually just take a plr article or something, auto-spin it in TBS and submit. Do you do something similar or are your writing "fresh" content? Do you auto spin, or do a manual spin?

      And, just out of curiosity, why do you choose to wait until the traffic starts flowing to place your adsense? I have tried both waiting until traffic picks up and placing the ads on the site as it is built, across numerous sites and have never found any difference. Seems to be no negative or positive impact either way. Is this just a personal preference or do you know something I don't? lol
      1. I've experimented with ALN a bit and there's really no difference whether you use auto spun content or quality manual spintax. I get a writer do an article for me and re-write each paragraph once or twice, then auto spin on top. It's ALN (read low quality, but it works at the moment).

      2. No reason. I know this sounds funny, but I often over think simple things like that. I don't want my Adsense code on sites that aren't ranking yet. Don't think it makes any difference in the long run.

      Originally Posted by Fatality View Post

      This is one of the best guides I have seen on WF so far. I love how you took us through what you do, especially in regards to what SEO practice you use for each week.
      Thanks! Now use it!

      Originally Posted by scorpi View Post

      Thank you for your very well built guide. If you don't mind could you give an example of your sites. It would be very good form newbies like me.
      Not keen on sharing my sites here, it's a public forum after all. Sorry.

      Originally Posted by talkmeow View Post

      I've been using CTR theme and only averaging 2-3% CTR the past few days. I've noticed nobody ever clicks on the sidebar banner (160x600 text only) so I am going to try switching it out for a 468x60 in content text box. Thanks for that tip.
      No problem. You have to experiment with different ad types though... 468x60 might not work as well for you as it does for me (different layouts, keywords, etc). Sidebars never convert, definitely use that ad inventory somewhere else.

      I'm also not a big fan of G Analytics myself so I will try out that getclicky you recommended. My only worry is if I want to sell a site eventually. Do you have any problems selling on flippa when you don't have Analytics running? I know that is one thing many people look for when buying, do the getclicky reports work just as well?
      Getclicky reports are the awesome sauce. Honestly. You get loads of data, all real time... Never had a problem with selling sites that use getclicky stats.

      Originally Posted by talkmeow View Post

      I'm curious as to what type of services you provide? I'm doing the exact opposite of you, 90% of my income is coming from adsense
      Mostly SEO at the moment.

      Originally Posted by Bambu View Post

      This is pretty solid SEO advice in my opinion and can be used to rank most low to medium competition terms (with medium competition requiring a couple more cycles).
      Not exactly true. You can rank for pretty much any keyword (apart from the likes of "lose weight" and "credit cards") with just one full iteration. I've so many keywords in #1s it's ridiculous. Most of them in difficult health related niches.

      The only section I would add to is the keyword section. This is critical to success. Try and choose keywords with lots of advertisers targeting it. You can determine if lots of advertisers target a keyword by looking at the competition level in Google Keyword Tool. Shoot for keywords that have medium to high advertiser competition. You can also check if advertisers are targeting the keyword by simply doing a Google search in the country you are targeting. If you see lots of Adwords ads, odds are you have found a keyword that lots of advertisers are targeting.
      Yeah that is why I say that your main keyword must have "high" Adwords competition (in the keyword tool) as well as a lot of searches. All of my main keywords are high competition and over 5400 exact match local searches.

      In addition to the above keyword advice, make sure that the first page of Google search results for the keyword isn't too competitive. Generally, if you see one or more 0 year old pages in the top ten, one or more PR1 pages in the top ten, and one or more pages with less than 300 low PR backlinks, then odds are you have found a good keyword. Also check for on page SEO factors in the top 10 (keyword in title, keyword in description, keyword in H1 tag, keyword in domain, etc)
      I wouldn't be too worried about competition. Honestly all of my sites outrank wikipedia (unless it's #1 for that term, but those are mostly browsing terms that I don't target anyways), mayoclinic, helpguide, webmd, about, etc...

      To me good keywords have these characteristics:

      1. High demand, lots of advertisers.
      2. High traffic.
      3. Can write about a lot.

      My advice would be to stop looking for magical keywords that are easy to rank for and just focus on building good websites (using keywords that will make you $$$). SEO is easy. It really is.
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      • Profile picture of the author lukedidit
        Wow - simply an epic post. The info in here would metaphorically wipe the floor on a lot of paid for WSO's on ranking.

        Very valuable for me, thank you very much.

        May I ask the following:

        The social bookmarking, you do this direct to your site? I set up some bookmarking last night using social monkee (only 25 links drip fed) and 2-3 buildmyrank P2-3 posts. Now my site has disappeared beyond the first 1000 pages. I am sure it will come back, but I was thinking perhaps I am being to harsh. However, if you are blasting 1000 SM bookmarks then I suppose my little link tasks were very minor.

        Do you find during the SEO phase of your steps Google pulls you right out and then brings you back in again?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
          Originally Posted by lukedidit View Post

          The social bookmarking, you do this direct to your site? I set up some bookmarking last night using social monkee (only 25 links drip fed) and 2-3 buildmyrank P2-3 posts. Now my site has disappeared beyond the first 1000 pages. I am sure it will come back, but I was thinking perhaps I am being to harsh. However, if you are blasting 1000 SM bookmarks then I suppose my little link tasks were very minor.
          Yep, I always blast direct to my sites.

          Do you find during the SEO phase of your steps Google pulls you right out and then brings you back in again?
          Yes. It's happened to me quite a few times, but the sites always come back stronger. Last time I had sites disappear from top 500 was last November, and they came back to page 2 about a month later. Both are ranking #1 at the moment (for multiple keywords).

          This doesn't happen all the time, about half of my sites never disappear and just go from n/a to page 2 and then top 3... ALL of my sites rank #1 eventually.
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          • Profile picture of the author Daniel Ya
            Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

            This doesn't happen all the time, about half of my sites never disappear and just go from n/a to page 2 and then top 3... ALL of my sites rank #1 eventually.
            Hi Bnetwork, please let us know in which week your sites normally go from n/a to page 2?

            Thanks!.
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      • Profile picture of the author agmantz
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

        To me good keywords have these characteristics:

        1. High demand, lots of advertisers.
        2. High traffic.
        3. Can write about a lot.

        My advise would be to stop looking for magical keywords that are easy to rank for and just focus on building good websites (using keywords that will make you $$$). SEO is easy. It really is.
        Thanks for Advice...
        I think I need to change my strategy...
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  • Profile picture of the author SerpSmasher
    Good post, I stay away from adsense as I don't think it's a good long term business, but this method looks like a winner
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by SerpSmasher View Post

      Good post, I stay away from adsense as I don't think it's a good long term business, but this method looks like a winner
      I know what you mean.

      This is one of the reasons for selling some of these sites. I'm not too worried as I use 2 separate Adsense accounts across my sites.

      To me this is a medium-term investment strategy. Definitely not my main source of income.
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  • Profile picture of the author littledan
    Fantastic infomation, and very detailed too. I still like Adsense even though many people are backing away from it these days stating that it is as not as good as it once was, maybe true? But I still like it anyway.

    One thing I have heard recently regarding ads in general, not just adsense. Google are starting to penalise sites that have ads above the fold. Not sure if that was mentioned in the post, apologies if I missed it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by littledan View Post

      One thing I have heard recently regarding ads in general, not just adsense. Google are starting to penalise sites that have ads above the fold. Not sure if that was mentioned in the post, apologies if I missed it.
      Yeah, that would be the latest algo change (probably not the latest any more, lulz).

      I don't really have many ads above the fold. They don't seem to convert in the niches that I'm in. Some of the sites have 480x60 Adsense text ad blocks in the second paragraph, but that's hardly "above the fold" really.

      No link units, no sidebar ads/link units, no large rectangles in top left corner... I don't use any of those. Tested - didn't work.
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  • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
    Care to show us a site you've flipped ?

    How many articles / content pieces go on?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

      Care to show us a site you've flipped ?
      Nope, sorry. Buyers wouldn't like it since they've become repeat buyers of my sites. Private sales are better: no flippa fees, direct transfer to bank, no uncertainty.

      How many articles / content pieces go on?
      Smaller sites have the homepage and 5-6 pages (excluding privacy, contact, etc). Bigger sites anywhere from 10-20 pages plus blog posts (20-100 posts, depends how much money they make).
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      • Profile picture of the author Ryan Sterling
        Thanks buddy for this fantastic report. I'm going to follow your exact step by step method.

        People do quickly forget that is is just like any business. Start off with a plan. Make wise investments and allow some time.

        Just a quick question, if you are trying to target a minimum 5000 exact searches with a CPC of say...$2.00. Would you recommend targeting 2500 exact searches with a CPC of $4.00?

        Would this be the same?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
          Originally Posted by Ryan Sterling View Post

          Just a quick question, if you are trying to target a minimum 5000 exact searches with a CPC of say...$2.00. Would you recommend targeting 2500 exact searches with a CPC of $4.00?

          Would this be the same?
          Nope, because (from my experience) high CPC reported by Google (those are for Adwords aren't they?) doesn't always mean that you will get higher value Adsense clicks. It's just an educated guess... I'd go with more traffic.

          If you can find one that's 5000 exact and $4 CPC - go for it.

          Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author TheBoyScout
    Thanks for all the good info. Nice breakdown of instructions.
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  • Profile picture of the author lifeisfun
    Thanks for the great post and I have a couple of questions.

    You said:
    "Get someone to send 100+ Facebook likes and 20 or more Google+1s to your homepage."


    On my homepage, I get about 1 google plus every week; i have a bit of a better rate on the inner pages. I thought of getting a google+ gig, but then i thought, wouldn't it be weird that i get one google+ a day and suddenly i got 10, 20, etc? I know some services drip them, but still I'm paranoid that it might have a bad impact. What are your thoughts on that?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by lifeisfun View Post

      Thanks for the great post and I have a couple of questions.

      You said:
      "Get someone to send 100+ Facebook likes and 20 or more Google+1s to your homepage."


      On my homepage, I get about 1 google plus every week; i have a bit of a better rate on the inner pages. I thought of getting a google+ gig, but then i thought, wouldn't it be weird that i get one google+ a day and suddenly i got 10, 20, etc? I know some services drip them, but still I'm paranoid that it might have a bad impact. What are your thoughts on that?
      Never had any problems. The idea is to make the site appear "liked" by a lot of people. Then your new visitors will be more likely to "like" or "+1" it as well.

      It's the same principle used in offline business - pay a group of people to hang outside your bar to make it look busy.

      I've sent hundreds of +1's to my sites without problems. But you really only need 20 or so - not going to be a problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author jRad
    hey man,

    okay I'm following your strategy. I have my website up and running, I just need to add content now (I'll be outsourcing the articles).

    the next part up is to write the homepage. now for that, i've written a sort of 'about me' page, with the 'my story' kind of feel integrated. however it's not the home page, per say - it's not the first page people go to when they visit my site.

    the first page people go to is where are my blogs are listed. visit viperchill's website to see what i'm talking about. I pretty much have the same layout (the home page is blogs, next page is 'new? start here' and that's where the 'about me' page is.

    so in regards to the homepage, would I treat my 'new? start here' page as my home page? as in, getting Facebook likes and google likes for that page?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by jRad View Post

      the first page people go to is where are my blogs are listed. visit viperchill's website to see what i'm talking about. I pretty much have the same layout (the home page is blogs, next page is 'new? start here' and that's where the 'about me' page is.

      so in regards to the homepage, would I treat my 'new? start here' page as my home page? as in, getting Facebook likes and google likes for that page?
      Hey,

      Yeah that's not exactly how I build my sites as I only use static home pages (not recent blog posts) and "pages" for my inner-pages.

      But that doesn't mean that your approach is wrong, either. Viper's (thanks for the link) blog uses the standard WP blog layout, which works great for most people.

      I would focus on the page which your visitors see first. The reason why I use static home pages is exactly that - they are static. I don't like having constantly changing content on the homepage.
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      • Profile picture of the author jRad
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

        Hey,

        Yeah that's not exactly how I build my sites as I only use static home pages (not recent blog posts) and "pages" for my inner-pages.

        But that doesn't mean that your approach is wrong, either. Viper's (thanks for the link) blog uses the standard WP blog layout, which works great for most people.

        I would focus on the page which your visitors see first. The reason why I use static home pages is exactly that - they are static. I don't like having constantly changing content on the homepage.
        Okay awesome, thanks a lot.

        I have about 15-20 keywords, branching off from my main keyword (I followed your keyword steps). Would I be writing articles about these keywords? I easily could, just wondering if it's wise.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
          Originally Posted by jRad View Post

          Okay awesome, thanks a lot.

          I have about 15-20 keywords, branching off from my main keyword (I followed your keyword steps). Would I be writing articles about these keywords? I easily could, just wondering if it's wise.
          Think about your visitors when crafting article titles and sub-headings. Have your keywords in a longer phrase if that makes the title more user friendly.

          If you followed my guide, you should have headings (keywords) along with sub-headings (sub-keywords) for each article (page). Use them to structure/write articles.

          To make the site more user friendly I'd avoid repeating the same info from one article to the next. Take this into account when choosing article headings/sub-headings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    Alright... if any of you guys have advice on how I could improve this system, please share. I'm especially interested in these:

    1. Keyword research for large websites (100+ pages).
    2. Website structure (especially the home page) of big sites (100 pages+).
    3. Internal linking strategies.
    4. How do you avoid talking about the same thing over and over again with large sites? I know there are hundreds of topics/keywords for every niche, but most can be put into 20 or 30 similar "categories". To me it makes sense to create big articles focused on categories, not just a single keyword.
    5. How do you add that "little extra" to info sites? Build a community, something "social", you know..? Got any ideas/suggestions?

    Those are the questions that keep me up at night.
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    • Profile picture of the author harvez16
      Hey BNetwork,

      I have a few things that I'm unsure about using your overall strategy.

      • How are you blasting your pages with 1000's of social bookmarks?
      • Where are you getting your facebook likes, google plus ones from?
      • "Purchase 5-10 high quality blog posts. Unique content, PR4+ blogs. Drip feed these over 3-5 days. I only use the main keyword, one URL per blog post and target the homepage only." Would this be something like BMR?
      • Get 30+ high PR blog comments to the homepage, how are you doing this?
      • Where is the best place to order a press release?
      I'm new to this so any help is appreciated thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author richrich123
      Hiya,

      This is one of the best posts I have read on here so far, thank you so much for taking your time to share your knowledge! I have spent a lot of time trying to improve my adsense success and clearly not had as much sucess as you have.

      I do have a few questions from your post but would also point out that I have been looking to hire someone to help me get a good working adsense example set up that I can use as a guide / template for futher sites in the future. If this is a job you may be interested in, I would love to discuss further with you.

      Purchase 5-10 high quality blog posts
      Get 30+ high PR blog comments to the homepage
      Can you recommend a person or service? I have been 'had' several times (even by people on here) who's deals have turned out to be poor / low quality, misleading etc etc.

      Use ALN - need high pr sites
      I have not heard of this before. It is easy to start buying lots of software, not really have the time to learn it and generally fail with it. You mention outsourcing to someone above. I have had a google and see a few people offering but again, it is hard to know who to trust. Any recommendations?

      Many thanks again

      Cheers
      Rich
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    • Profile picture of the author KeepItSimpleSilly
      Great tips, very down to earth, thanks again !
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    hey man this is a really cool post for sure on adsense. The only gripe that I have is the ROI on these sites. If you're dropping $500 on each site and then potentially selling them in the future and making like $1000 profit..?

    I would much rather take that $500 and use it to build a list from solo ads or market ppc to a direct linking CPA offer. You could easily quadruple your ROI with this strategy. Yeah it won't be bringing in the passive income but w adsense you're at the mercy of every big G algorithm update.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    ^ I do this, because I know how to do it.

    I've built countless sites for clients as well as done loads of SEO work, which makes it easy for me to put all of this together. On the other hand, I haven't got a clue about solo ads.

    The sites normally pay for themselves over the first 3 months, after which it's all profit. Easily sell them for 14x+ monthly revenue, because they look much better than pretty much any site available for sale (in this price range).

    There really isn't any upkeep needed once you reach #1's for multiple keywords, because you get linked to naturally from all kinds of places (especially social). Never had any problems with this or any algo updates so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author treezie
    Where do you usually purchase your blog posts from?
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  • Profile picture of the author chinastyle
    Hi everyone,

    I am new at this, however I have found what I think is a niche based upon exact keyword research via adwords. I also have been in this niche industry for 18 years and am therefore able to write 100's of articles without blinking an eye.

    My questions are,

    If I make my site using wordpress will it be better or worse than basic html for adsense?

    Am I better of writing my own ebook and selling that rather than soley relying on adsense to produce income?

    Regards
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  • Profile picture of the author Captain Dynamo
    Hey great post,

    IMO one thing you missed bnetwork is... competitor analysis!

    Search for your keywords, take a look at the Top 10 of your main keywords, Check:

    - their PR's
    - number of backlinks
    - quality of backlinks (i.e. PR of backlinks, .edu/.gov links)
    - Keyword/s in H1/title/domain
    - age of sites

    Its a cost/benefit analysis... i.e. how much link building effort & time will it take to get to No. 1 Vs how much can you make off the site.

    I've built 3 new EMD domains, now after 2 weeks they're ranking on page 1 for their main keyword (+$2 CPC, +1000 exact/local/monthly... one's $10 CPC which is sweet). But I certainly wouldn't be able to do this for high competition keywords.

    A lot of High CPC/High traffic keywords definately come with High competition... which I don't want to spend a year to get to No. 1... I wanna be making decent money early.

    Just sharing my views from my limited experience.

    So my questions is... what competitor analysis do you do and what level of competition would you be comfortable going after?
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  • Profile picture of the author danlew
    This is a very good strategy for those who are having Adsense accounts and getting serious to boost their earnings for good. But for those who are disabled by Adsense, you can still do this with CPA and affiliate marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by treezie View Post

      Where do you usually purchase your blog posts from?
      There are lots of providers I work with... Look around on various IM forums (not this one) and you'll find them. I don't want to give any direct recommendations since I'm already getting blamed for "having a hidden agenda", screw that.

      Originally Posted by slomo View Post

      That thread, man...

      I've worked with many writers over the last couple years and, naturally, have picked a couple providers that I work with regularly now.

      Originally Posted by chinastyle View Post

      My questions are,

      If I make my site using wordpress will it be better or worse than basic html for adsense?

      Am I better of writing my own ebook and selling that rather than soley relying on adsense to produce income?
      1. No difference, as long as you know what you're doing. I use WP because I'm used to it.

      2. Potentially, yes. Focus on building a good site and ranking it first, then experiment with monetisation.

      Originally Posted by Captain Dynamo View Post

      So my questions is... what competitor analysis do you do and what level of competition would you be comfortable going after?
      Agree that perhaps I should take more time to analyse competition, but I haven't had any problems with rankings so far. I don't know.

      Honestly, as long as the first page isn't all super authority sites, I'm good. By authority I do not mean webmd, helpguide, about, amazon, etc - those are easy to overtake.

      Just looked at one of the keywords that I've been #1 for some time now and the PR breakdown (page 1 - ranking pages, not home page PR) is:

      1. Me (PR0 - will be PR3/4 after PR update)
      2. PR5
      3. PR5
      4. PR4
      5. PR6
      6. PR3
      7. PR6
      8. PR4
      9. PR4
      ...

      Originally Posted by harvez16 View Post

      I have a few things that I'm unsure about using your overall strategy.
      • How are you blasting your pages with 1000's of social bookmarks?
      • Where are you getting your facebook likes, google plus ones from?
      • "Purchase 5-10 high quality blog posts. Unique content, PR4+ blogs. Drip feed these over 3-5 days. I only use the main keyword, one URL per blog post and target the homepage only." Would this be something like BMR?
      • Get 30+ high PR blog comments to the homepage, how are you doing this?
      • Where is the best place to order a press release?
      I'm new to this so any help is appreciated thanks.
      1. Just outsource this, google "social bookmarking blasts" or similar. The cost is roughly $20 to $40 per blast, depending on provider.
      2. I outsource this, there are lots of providers. Even Fiverr works for this kind of thing (at least for me).
      3. I don't use BMR, but I don't see why not. I generally buy these blog posts from private networks that have strong PR5/6 sites with strong backlink profiles (guide price $10 to $20 per blog post).
      4. Outsource this as well, though I used to do this manually myself. You can buy high quality lists for this stuff from specialised sellers.
      5. Google "press release monkey". Good prices and decent results.

      Originally Posted by danlew View Post

      This is a very good strategy for those who are having Adsense accounts and getting serious to boost their earnings for good. But for those who are disabled by Adsense, you can still do this with CPA and affiliate marketing.
      Yup. Just make sure to target niches/keywords that aren't just "informational" (recipes come to mind) or very weird - "underbed shoe storage".
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  • Profile picture of the author treezie
    There are lots of providers I work with... Look around on various IM forums (not this one) and you'll find them. I don't want to give any direct recommendations since I'm already getting blamed for "having a hidden agenda", screw that.
    Yeah people who aren't doing sh!t are always the naysayers. Thanks for posting the thread man it helps out a lot with my front page issues. And so what if you are using this thread to launch a future WSO (not saying you are), the thread is still useful as hell.
    And when you say buying blog posts, you mean having them blog about your site on their blog right?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by treezie View Post

      And when you say buying blog posts, you mean having them blog about your site on their blog right?
      Yeah. I normally supply them with a URL and keyword to be anchored and they write a unique post with a link back to my website. Depending on what provider you use for this the blog post stays on the home page anywhere from 7 to 40 days or more.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Ya
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

        Yeah. I normally supply them with a URL and keyword to be anchored and they write a unique post with a link back to my website. Depending on what provider you use for this the blog post stays on the home page anywhere from 7 to 40 days or more.
        Thanks for sharing this info with us, for free .

        Can you give us a clue on how to find these kind of providers?
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  • Profile picture of the author killer999
    Fantastic article and very detailed too.
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  • Profile picture of the author perfectlovehere
    Wow great guide it seems like! Looks like it took you a while to make. Thanks for posting it.
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  • Profile picture of the author rocking11
    Thanks for detailed explanation of your strategy. can you tell me which kind a press release you use? not $20 one that i agree but how much it can cost to writing+release total?

    -that said, do you keep in mind how many long tail keywords it can get before spending this much? b/c till i know, most ppl don't spend on press release for ranking 5K volume keyword.

    Regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by rocking11 View Post

      Thanks for detailed explanation of your strategy. can you tell me which kind a press release you use? not $20 one that i agree but how much it can cost to writing+release total?

      -that said, do you keep in mind how many long tail keywords it can get before spending this much? b/c till i know, most ppl don't spend on press release for ranking 5K volume keyword.
      1. I use "press release monkey" - Google them. Great service (holla!).

      2. Nope. These pages do rank for a lot of long tail keywords though. Normally 10-20 or so that bring in daily traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    Just sold another one of these sites for $1800. Total investment around $500 plus $1xx in fees (no flippa). Site started in October 2011, so 4 months old. Traffic - 7882 uniques from Google this month, so around 280/day. Earned $136 this month so far through Adsense, so I got just over 12x monthly for it.

    I take my words back though if I ever said that this is an easy way to make money. It's not easy, because you need to a) invest money and b) know what you're doing.

    I'm happy.
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    • Profile picture of the author treezie
      Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

      Just sold another one of these sites for $1800. Total investment around $500 plus $1xx in fees (no flippa). Site started in October 2011, so 4 months old. Traffic - 7882 uniques from Google this month, so around 280/day. Earned $136 this month so far through Adsense, so I got just over 12x monthly for it.

      I take my words back though if I ever said that this is an easy way to make money. It's not easy, because you need to a) invest money and b) know what you're doing.

      I'm happy.
      True that, it definitely takes money to make money. I mean you could do all this yourself but you are looking at a long road ahead. In the game of internet marketing, you just need to do enough to know what you're doing...then it is time to outsource and delegate. If not, you are bringing a knife to a gun fight.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Ya
    Me here again with another question

    What is the success rate you have with this model?, that is, for example, out of 10 sites you create, how many of them reach page 1 and are profitable for you?

    Thanks again!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by treezie View Post

      True that, it definitely takes money to make money. I mean you could do all this yourself but you are looking at a long road ahead. In the game of internet marketing, you just need to do enough to know what you're doing...then it is time to outsource and delegate. If not, you are bringing a knife to a gun fight.
      Exactly.

      Originally Posted by Daniel Ya View Post

      What is the success rate you have with this model?, that is, for example, out of 10 sites you create, how many of them reach page 1 and are profitable for you?
      Erm, 100%. At least so far. Though I do have a few new sites and a couple 2-3 month old sites hovering around positions 7-9. All are profitable, lowest earner this month is doing £2.92/day avg. (which is like $4.30/day).
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  • Profile picture of the author LAF Riot
    What a great post! I printed it out for reference (I'm building my first adsense site now under different criteria, but will use this guide for my next site).

    Do you offer your backlinking plan as a service?
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    • Profile picture of the author Intensity
      Thanks for sharing! This is the most useful post I have read by far!

      I am a newbie absorbing everything I can but really trying to find a structure that works for me in creating niche sites. Getting into IM and SEO I always came with the 'build a long term business" frame of mind. This has helped me build upon what I want to do in the long term.

      Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author vlada111
    Really usefull tutorial. But I don`t know why you say "only .com domains". I don`t agree with that. If you want EMD .com .net and .org will get the same results
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by LAF Riot View Post

      What a great post! I printed it out for reference (I'm building my first adsense site now under different criteria, but will use this guide for my next site).

      Do you offer your backlinking plan as a service?
      Let us know how it goes! Yes, we do SEO work, but that isn't the purpose of this thread (to sell my services).

      Originally Posted by Intensity View Post

      I am a newbie absorbing everything I can but really trying to find a structure that works for me in creating niche sites. Getting into IM and SEO I always came with the 'build a long term business" frame of mind. This has helped me build upon what I want to do in the long term.
      Yep, definitely build for the long term. Think about your visitors and not Adsense. Money will follow.

      Originally Posted by vlada111 View Post

      Really usefull tutorial. But I don`t know why you say "only .com domains". I don`t agree with that. If you want EMD .com .net and .org will get the same results
      Because, if you read the OP, I don't care about EMDs. I like to use .com's that can be turned into "mini brands".
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    Sold another site today. This time got a much better deal as well. Going to take a short break from selling since I only have a few top ranking websites left. Need to build more.

    I think that the key points in getting a good amount of money for a site are:

    1. Stable rankings for at least 3-4 months.
    2. Earnings history for 2-3 months plus at least a month of stable earnings right before the sale.
    3. Site design and content quality really matter. If a site looks awesome and makes money - it's going to sell for more than just a good money making site.

    So yeah, I got 15x monthly this time.

    Anyone else following this system or have any site structure suggestions? I started building 2 authority websites (health and finance niches). Structuring these slightly differently than explained in the OP - going to use categories as "mini hubs".

    Oh and sorry if you tried sending me a PM and didn't get a reply - apparently I need to pay to get a bigger inbox.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Ya
    Congratulations on the sale!

    I am seriously planning to follow your system, have some quick questions.

    1. What do you think about link velocity? that is, sending thousands of links to your new money site in less that 6 weeks may seem a little unnatural to the eyes of search engines, what do you think about it?

    2. Do you use free wordpress themes on your sites?

    3. Do you use a specific keyword tool other than Google's for keyword research?

    Thanks!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by Daniel Ya View Post

      Congratulations on the sale!
      Thanks!

      1. What do you think about link velocity? that is, sending thousands of links to your new money site in less that 6 weeks may seem a little unnatural to the eyes of search engines, what do you think about it?
      I think link velocity is the new...

      But seriously... I don't really care for all the SEO "science" that so many people here try to push. I think that building some type of new backlinks to a site on a regular basis definitely helps in the long run. Link velocity - meh.

      2. Do you use free wordpress themes on your sites?
      I use Thesis. I like it. Another great looking theme I considered buying is "lifestyle" from studiopress (here). But Thesis fits my needs better (I already have loads of custom code ready for Thesis).

      3. Do you use a specific keyword tool other than Google's for keyword research?
      Nah, just the good old Google Keyword Tool.
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      • Profile picture of the author treezie
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

        Thanks!



        I think link velocity is the new...

        But seriously... I don't really care for all the SEO "science" that so many people here try to push. I think that building some type of new backlinks to a site on a regular basis definitely helps in the long run. Link velocity - meh.



        I use Thesis. I like it. Another great looking theme I considered buying is "lifestyle" from studiopress (here). But Thesis fits my needs better (I already have loads of custom code ready for Thesis).



        Nah, just the good old Google Keyword Tool.
        Second for thesis. It will do everything you need and more. I have twelve sites live at this time...and they are all running Thesis. It is way versatile.
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  • Profile picture of the author harvez16
    Hey BNetwork,

    I was just wondering going over your strategy do you notice any major differences for the social bookmarking blasts? Or are you just doing it to get pages quickly indexed?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by harvez16 View Post

      Hey BNetwork,

      I was just wondering going over your strategy do you notice any major differences for the social bookmarking blasts? Or are you just doing it to get pages quickly indexed?
      Okay since I've been getting so many questions about social bookmarking - let me give you guys a quick overview.

      Keep in mind that I'm a SEO provider and I do have my own social bookmarking service - so take my advice with a grain of salt (lulz).

      Just to be clear: I'm not here to push my services and this thread wasn't started with that in mind. I'm not sure why social bookmarking is such a new thing here. For a pretty long time now, it has been the single most cost effective way to rank sites and make mad money. Literally.

      One of my older clients absolutely killed it with new EMDs and social bookmarking back in July of last year. He ranked about 80 EMDs in the top 3 within a month of building them and has since sold nearly all of them for crazy profits. Anyways. Things have changed.

      There are ways to "blast" social bookmarks to 1000-3000+ social websites in one go. It used to be super effective (almost felt like cheating) to rank sites this way. And cheap.

      The word quickly spread (not here apparently) and everyone started buying these blasts. Your typical EMD would hit #1 HOURS after a good blast. It was crazy. So many people used social bookmarking blasts that they've kind of lost effectiveness now (as with every SEO technique that goes mainstream).

      These days you can still push sites up from page 2 to page 1 or from n/a to page 2 with a single blast, but top 3 results are pretty rare now. We're talking good keywords here, not random **** long tails that get no traffic.

      My recommendation for social bookmarking at this time (I say this because the world of SEO moves fast):

      1. Don't use single URL blasts on new sites that have no other backlinks.
      2. Use single URL blasts on aged sites with diversified link profiles.
      3. Use multiple URL blasts to deep link your inner pages. Say you have 5 inner pages that you want to build links to - spread a 1000 SB blast across those pages.
      4. Use multiple URL blasts to mass index quality blog posts or web 2.0 properties. You can load up 30+ URLs with random anchors for pretty much guaranteed indexing (within hours).

      These big blasts are great, because:

      1. Google finds them fast. Sometimes I see movement minutes after a blast. There is no need to ping these blasts - it's just a myth.
      2. White hat. Sure, you get loads of links. But that's what social bookmarking sites are for, no? To bookmark your stories.
      3. Huge IP diversity. Links come from all kinds of different IP's. This is important.
      4. Can create massive anchor text diversity. I use anything from 2-3 anchors on aged pages to 30+ anchors when just boosting a new websites link profile (use click here, blog, post, red, read more, story, article, etc as anchors).
      5. A good way to deep link your inner pages. Many people give up trying to build backlinks to their pages and just focus on the homepage. Big mistake.
      6. Cheap. A blast will cost you anywhere from $20 to $40, depending on provider.

      A word of advice:

      1. Social bookmarks come with short descriptions (a couple sentences). Make sure to spin these by hand (so they read ok) to a very high degree for maximum impact.
      2. Do not submit these bookmarks to top bookmarking sites (digg, etc). Submit to those separately.
      3. When blasting, don't forget to spin tags and categories.

      Ok so that's that. Good luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author richrich123
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post


        My recommendation for social bookmarking at this time (I say this because the world of SEO moves fast):

        1. Don't use single URL blasts on new sites that have no other backlinks.
        2. Use single URL blasts on aged sites with diversified link profiles.
        3. Use multiple URL blasts to deep link your inner pages. Say you have 5 inner pages that you want to build links to - spread a 1000 SB blast across those pages.
        4. Use multiple URL blasts to mass index quality blog posts or web 2.0 properties. You can load up 30+ URLs with random anchors for pretty much guaranteed indexing (within hours).
        Hi, in your original guide .under week 1 you recommend blasting the homepage with a 1,000+ social bookmark blast using 4-5 keywords. In your comment here on point 1, you say don't do a blast to a single URL for new sites with no backlinks ???

        Am I missing something as that seems to contradict each other.

        Cheers
        Rich
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        • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
          Originally Posted by HKSEO Rotzee View Post

          Good job man. That was a very well thought out guide for newbies...wish I had this when I started off =D
          No problem!

          Originally Posted by OmarNegron View Post

          Hey bnetwork. Sent you over a PM. I am familiar with Adsense and niche websites and had a quick question hopefully you could answer.

          Thanks a bunch!

          -Omar
          I'll send you an answer later today. My PM box is full and I don't really read it to be honest.

          Originally Posted by richrich123 View Post

          Hi, in your original guide .under week 1 you recommend blasting the homepage with a 1,000+ social bookmark blast using 4-5 keywords. In your comment here on point 1, you say don't do a blast to a single URL for new sites with no backlinks ???

          Am I missing something as that seems to contradict each other.

          Cheers
          Rich
          As I said, strategies change. I started this thread with a view to encourage a good discussion and to make people think about these kind of websites from a more qualitative point of view.

          Blasting direct to one URL won't hurt, but it doesn't work as well as it used to. I mostly use social bookmarks to build links to many different pages, because that can be difficult to do using other techniques.

          I've not had any new sites penalized for blasting them with social bookmarks, but I stopped doing it myself lately (and started blasting multiple pages instead).

          I built seven new websites last week, as well as sold over half a dozen sites since starting this thread. I continue building and learning all the time and from time to time share my ideas/thoughts here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Ya
    Hi Bnetwork,

    I am really interested in your services, I know that you don't want this thread to turn into a promotional one, but, I really am interested. Please let me know how you can give a link on where to hire your services, if you don't mind of course

    Additionally, I have found some fiverr gigs offering bookmarking blasts, but, I don't know if they would work.

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Ya
    Thanks for the PM bnetwork!, can't reply direct to you because of my low posts count
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  • Profile picture of the author harvez16
    Thanks bnetwork,

    You learn something new everyday

    I didn't know how important social bookmarking was to your link building strategies.

    Could you also get in contact with me I am interested in your services

    Much appreciated
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    I may think about starting a sales thread in the "Warriors for Hire" section for this... This thread is here to discuss Adsense sites/flipping/structure/etc.

    I don't want it to be closed for self promotion.

    Please note that social bookmarking in only a part of the overall SEO plan. There's a lot more to it and the biggest push in the SERPs normally comes from a combination of other services - not the bookmarks.
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    • Profile picture of the author treezie
      Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

      I may think about starting a sales thread in the "Warriors for Hire" section for this... This thread is here to discuss Adsense sites/flipping/structure/etc.

      I don't want it to be closed for self promotion.

      Please note that social bookmarking in only a part of the overall SEO plan. There's a lot more to it and the biggest push in the SERPs normally comes from a combination of other services - not the bookmarks.
      If you do start a thread in the Warriors For Hire section, I will be sure to leave a review . Used BN's social bookmarking blast to take a site from the 20th page to the 5th page . It's only been a couple of days so trying to see if I can get anymore movement out of it without any additional backlinking. I do have about 15 backlinks to it before the blast. The site was pretty much out of the Top 1000 for three months until it reappeared one day.
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  • Profile picture of the author harvez16
    Pm me if you decide to open a thread in the special offers forum!

    Yes I have realised, that only doing one thing generally doesn't get the best results whic is fair enough because if you think of it logically a natural sites not going to only get links from one ip, one strategy etc. Thanks for the tips keep them coming
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  • Profile picture of the author winrar
    Your off-page SEO strategy looks great. I think the key is diversity.
    Regards on-page SEO, you provided a new thought of how to organize contents, which made me have deeper understanding of wordpress and inner link architecture. Awesome!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    Just sold another site... Now I'm really starting to run out of sites.

    I've decided not to do a sales thread in the Warriors For Hire section. The business is doing just fine, my main focus is slowly shifting to website building now.

    What many people seem to not be able to grasp is that most sites (on the internet) are not sold through flippa. If you build good sites and get noticed, buyers are going to come to you. Selling one good site on flippa can land you a long term buyer who will keep you busy for the next year or more. People will also contact you through your sites with offers to buy them.

    Also, please do not ask me to show you the sites I've sold. It won't happen.

    Now lets see how things work out with my authority websites. Started two last week following a silo structure I devised myself. I have to give credit to yukon. While my sites are structured differently from his, I must have read every single post he made in the last year or so looking for tips/advice on site structure. Thanks man!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    Ok quick update.

    Niche/keyword selection is HUGE.

    I just put Adsense on another website that gets the same amount of traffic as one of the sites I sold last week (around 250 uniques/day from Google), and it's already making 6x more than the other site. It literally made over $28 overnight. Lucky?

    I need to figure out why. Obviously ads are more targeted, but both keywords have "high" adwords competition and a bunch of ads in Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author internetmaster
    Hi

    Very good tutorial on adsense.

    Could you please elaborate on how to structure the website with static home page?

    Regards
    AJ
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  • This is a really good post for anyone who wants to start making money from adsense.

    I use s similar method and it works. Period.

    Thanks for sharing!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by richrich123 View Post

      I do have a few questions from your post but would also point out that I have been looking to hire someone to help me get a good working adsense example set up that I can use as a guide / template for futher sites in the future. If this is a job you may be interested in, I would love to discuss further with you.
      Sorry, but I barely have enough time to work on my current projects.

      Can you recommend a person or service? I have been 'had' several times (even by people on here) who's deals have turned out to be poor / low quality, misleading etc etc.
      Can't recommend anyone, sorry.
      I have not heard of this before. It is easy to start buying lots of software, not really have the time to learn it and generally fail with it. You mention outsourcing to someone above. I have had a google and see a few people offering but again, it is hard to know who to trust. Any recommendations?
      Try "rank blasters" for ALN blasts.

      Originally Posted by internetmaster View Post

      Could you please elaborate on how to structure the website with static home page?
      Just set it to use a static page for the home page and a blog/article page for posts in WP general settings. You have to create the home page as a normal WP page first and then change the settings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    Very nice work on the thread post bnetwork, I really like how you put the post together! I've been making a little bit of money with Adsense on my two sites so far, but they weren't MFAs, they are both merchant sites I created. I've been debating on trying to create MFAs for a bit of time now.

    This thread, along with what I keep hearing about Adsense100KBlueprint seems to really put into perspective that good money can be made with multiple sites and Adsense on each of them.

    Had a question or two with your expertise: If I were to design an MFA site, but wanted to create a page for an affiliate link on a product related to the site's content, would this create backlash and possibly ban Adsense? I hear mixed things about how you can't link affiliates directly from your site that has Adsense on it, and so on unless you make a site for affiliate promotion, and then make an MFA site and link to your site that promotes affiliates if you wanted to do this correctly.

    I'm not sure what is correct or not, and tried to look at the TOS, but nothing really referenced on there as to that kind of setup. Any thoughts or comments?

    Also, not to ask too much personal info from you but, what would you say is the rough timeframe estimate in terms of days or weeks that you could expect to see results climbing up regarding the MFA's? And what would you say was the most you made on a day, and in a month with one MFA?

    Thanks in advance and again, thanks for a great post!
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  • Profile picture of the author richrich123
    Purchase 5-10 high quality blog posts
    Do you worry much about building links from a similar niche? I often find it really difficult e.g if you had a site about handbags to find high PR sites just on handbags that you can then get a link from. I find I end up at a higher level blog category like general fashion.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

      Had a question or two with your expertise: If I were to design an MFA site, but wanted to create a page for an affiliate link on a product related to the site's content, would this create backlash and possibly ban Adsense? I hear mixed things about how you can't link affiliates directly from your site that has Adsense on it, and so on unless you make a site for affiliate promotion, and then make an MFA site and link to your site that promotes affiliates if you wanted to do this correctly.

      I'm not sure what is correct or not, and tried to look at the TOS, but nothing really referenced on there as to that kind of setup. Any thoughts or comments?
      Hmm. I have product review pages on my Adsense sites. No problems so far. Most of the time though, Adsense works better than Amazon or similar affiliate links. Don't quote me on this though.

      Also, not to ask too much personal info from you but, what would you say is the rough timeframe estimate in terms of days or weeks that you could expect to see results climbing up regarding the MFA's? And what would you say was the most you made on a day, and in a month with one MFA
      First I want to say that these sites aren't really "MFA". The content is top quality, well formatted, no in-your-face ads, great layout, very informative and user friendly sites. Not seen a single "MFA" site that looks anywhere near as good as my sites. Not joking.

      In a day... over $28 with one site (just yesterday). Normally my sites average $5 to $15/day each. This one site seems to be doing very well (around $30/day).

      Originally Posted by richrich123 View Post

      Do you worry much about building links from a similar niche? I often find it really difficult e.g if you had a site about handbags to find high PR sites just on handbags that you can then get a link from. I find I end up at a higher level blog category like general fashion.
      Nah. General topic blogs are fine, as long as all content on the blogs is unique and they aren't all hosted on one IP.

      Originally Posted by Laganda

      Really nice share. I will try your method.
      I like the mindset create and sell...
      Keep good sites. I'm thinking about keeping the sites that make over $20/day average. At least for a year or so.
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  • Profile picture of the author Laganda
    Really nice share. I will try your method.
    I like the mindset create and sell..
    thanks mate
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    Thanks a lot BNetwork for your reply. Sorry, I didn't mean as an actual "MFA" type site (that's made with little content and mainly for adsense). I just meant a site that was made with an adsense keyword in mind and monetized as such.

    Thanks for the heads up as well on the affiliates topic. I had debated on making some websites for reviews and plugging in the Clickbank URLs (via shortener) onto the website, but then thought that Adsense would not be happy with this, so I haven't done so yet. I won't quote you on it, but your comments have helped to ease a bit of my fears.

    Nice work too on the $28 dollar day! That's great to make off of one website (multiply that by 10 or 15 different sites, and that's a nice little chunk to make).

    As far as the hosting on one IP that I've noticed you mention, is there a limit to this amount that you know of? (I have 3 sites that I run, all have Adsense on them but weren't made specifically for Adsense). I wasn't sure if there was a limit per say (I've seen others make comments that they've had 25 or more websites on the same IP using Adsense and had no issues, and others that stated they feared this and therefore don't do it). How many sites do you have roughly per IP?

    Thanks again for the info, very very much appreciated!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

      Thanks a lot BNetwork for your reply. Sorry, I didn't mean as an actual "MFA" type site (that's made with little content and mainly for adsense). I just meant a site that was made with an adsense keyword in mind and monetized as such.
      Yeah no problem man!

      Nice work too on the $28 dollar day! That's great to make off of one website (multiply that by 10 or 15 different sites, and that's a nice little chunk to make).
      I do make a nice chunk of change every month from Adsense (even though I only keep a few sites on each account), but this one really surprised me. I'm going to try and find a few more sites like this and keep them. Winner, winner, lol.

      As far as the hosting on one IP that I've noticed you mention, is there a limit to this amount that you know of? (I have 3 sites that I run, all have Adsense on them but weren't made specifically for Adsense). I wasn't sure if there was a limit per say (I've seen others make comments that they've had 25 or more websites on the same IP using Adsense and had no issues, and others that stated they feared this and therefore don't do it). How many sites do you have roughly per IP?
      One site per hosting account. That's just a personal preference. Each site easily pays for itself so that isn't a problem for me.

      Those are shared hosting accounts, so, technically, lost of sites on the same IP. Only one of them owned by me though (per account/IP).

      To be completely honest, I don't really think about any limits as such... Or theories or anything like that. I just get new hosting accounts as I build and reuse accounts when I sell a site. That's about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author internetmaster
      Hi

      Thanks for sharing ideas and advice on adsense. and how well you are doing. it would be great if you share your website adresses so that people can really have examples in front. I am looking forward to it. you can PM if you dont want to share with everyone.
      AJ
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      • Profile picture of the author richrich123
        Originally Posted by internetmaster View Post

        Hi

        Thanks for sharing ideas and advice on adsense. and how well you are doing. it would be great if you share your website adresses so that people can really have examples in front. I am looking forward to it. you can PM if you dont want to share with everyone.
        AJ
        He has already said in several earlier posts he won't show the domain - I don't think anyone would be prepared to do that
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Good to see this thread still going strong. The method you describe, OP, was pretty much what I was doing until some of the later Panda updates undid a lot of my hard work.

    I am really becoming convinced that some key factors the big G is looking at these days have to do with layout, page design etc. (remember those human reviewers whose responses to different pages supposedly inform the Panda algos?)

    The reason I say that is the sites that got hit for me in comparison to those that are doing well and/or are authority sites I must admit have pretty crappy templates - real monochrome, not-far-from X-Factor, type of thing, even though I think content is above-average. I am increasingly convinced some of those typical hallmarks of thin/MFA sites are getting penalised these days, together with things like high bounce rate/short average time spent on page etc. It may even be really subtle things like the site not having a unique logo (think: brand) of some kind in the header, but just a picture or a textual headline, again, typical of MFA.

    These are all things I am going to test, but just wondering about your thoughts, OP, and how your sites measure up to the kind of factors I have just listed?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      These are all things I am going to test, but just wondering about your thoughts, OP, and how your sites measure up to the kind of factors I have just listed?
      Erm, well... My sites look really good. You'd be surprised if I showed you my templates, but I don't think that matters much tbh.

      Design: heavily modified Thesis theme. Custom headers, etc...

      Layout: clean, no unnecessary links or distractions. Very informative content, well researched. None or very few ads (perhaps a 480x60 after the first paragraph or so) above the fold.

      Pages come with content tables and other useful stuff.

      Bounce rates for search traffic (Google and Yahoo/Bing - average): 17%, 25% and 14% for my top ranking sites at the moment.

      Avg. time on site... let me look it up... 3m 2s, 4m 55s and 3m 46s.

      So yea. not your typical Adsense sites. Best performing ad units are bottom of the page ads.

      Haven't been hit by any Google updates or other stuff on any of the sites since I started building them. I'd very much welcome a manual review from Google, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

    Erm, well... My sites look really good. You'd be surprised if I showed you my templates, but I don't think that matters much tbh.

    Design: heavily modified Thesis theme. Custom headers, etc...

    Layout: clean, no unnecessary links or distractions. Very informative content, well researched. None or very few ads (perhaps a 480x60 after the first paragraph or so) above the fold.

    Pages come with content tables and other useful stuff.

    Bounce rates for search traffic (Google and Yahoo/Bing - average): 17%, 25% and 14% for my top ranking sites at the moment.

    Avg. time on site... let me look it up... 3m 2s, 4m 55s and 3m 46s.

    So yea. not your typical Adsense sites. Best performing ad units are bottom of the page ads.

    Haven't been hit by any Google updates or other stuff on any of the sites since I started building them. I'd very much welcome a manual review from Google, lol.
    Thanks for that run-down, that's VERY telling, to my mind. I am even more convinced now that these are the kinds of things G is looking at in terms of obvious MFA-type footprints.

    Looking at one site of mine that got semi-slapped, it's about 40-45% bounce (which I thought was pretty good for a micro-niche-type site) and around 50s av. time on page, which is not so good, but could be a lot worse too. But that's WAY out of the ballpark of your figures. This site is one of those with a very bland template and took a hard knock in the October Panda. I believe the only thing that saved it from complete doom was good content, written by me and constantly improved, with video, graphics, etc. etc. but the telltale hallmarks of its MFA origins are still there, just can't quite shake them

    There are still plenty of people who don't believe these are factors, and it's all just backlinks, backlinks, backlinks, but I am ranking other sites with zero SEO effort whatsoever, and I can't really put my finger on what Google must like about them, but it's got to be along those lines: brand identity, long TOPs and low bounce, repeat visits, social aspect, NATURAL language (not keyword-spammed or cliched MFA style) lots going on on-page, really good content...

    Now just to make my "former MFAs" look like that
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    Looks like as it's already known, Google loves content, content, content. I still trip out with some of these little sites that are made with auto-generated content that looks like a page with nothing but links that then links to Yahoo Answers type comments and such, and so on... no real content, only content pulled from other related sites and plugged in. Google will eventually get to those sites I'm sure and shut them down.

    Thanks for a great post Bnetwork, and for your reply to my questions as well. I've wanted to get into a site of content to build my Adsense revenue up a bit (currently, I roughly make $60 - $100 between two merchant sites I own). Goal would be to eventually get to where I'm making $25 a day at least in Adsense. Of course, I want to definitely comply with their policy, which was why I wasn't sure if it were okay to build multiple sites on my shared hosting account with HostGator for Adsense (I wouldn't be linking either site to each other as they would all be their own niche per say). Your post gives hope to those of us that sorta got into Adsense, but didn't really take it on full force yet. I've heard great things about Adsense 100k Blueprint... I may really consider getting it now based on this post alone.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

      If I had built my sites with as much content as you suggest, I am sure my rankings would be much higher today & my residual income as well.
      Aye, it takes time to get things going with Adsense. My advice for anyone starting out would be to focus on delivering good content to users. Monetize once the sites gain some traction, don't obsess with squeezing the most out of Adsense right away.

      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      There are still plenty of people who don't believe these are factors, and it's all just backlinks, backlinks, backlinks, but I am ranking other sites with zero SEO effort whatsoever, and I can't really put my finger on what Google must like about them, but it's got to be along those lines: brand identity, long TOPs and low bounce, repeat visits, social aspect, NATURAL language (not keyword-spammed or cliched MFA style) lots going on on-page, really good content...
      I always do SEO for my sites, however I believe that having very high quality sites actually helps with this. No slaps (very rare and always come back stronger), very stable rankings and really good movement in SERPs whenever I build backlinks.

      Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

      Your post gives hope to those of us that sorta got into Adsense, but didn't really take it on full force yet. I've heard great things about Adsense 100k Blueprint... I may really consider getting it now based on this post alone.
      Yeah, I don't think hosting/IPs and all that stuff really matters much. I do things the way I do things tho...

      I can't imagine focusing on Adsense full time when starting out. Takes too long to see results, and it's not always guaranteed income (none of my sites ever failed, but newcomers might struggle).

      Never read any Adsense blueprints, can't recommend any. I think it's best to just do work and ask questions along the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    So I'm noticing a lot of changes with Google lately. They seem to have become a lot more sensitive - especially when it comes to anchor text diversity and certain link types that used to work very well just a month ago.

    A large wiki blast just nuked one of my sites. Diversifying anchors and links to inner pages like crazy now, hopefully it comes back up. I'll report back here when that happens.

    Just a heads up - these wiki blasts worked very well for me some time ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author HAWTs
    Thanks for sharing
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  • Profile picture of the author anarki450
    this thread is full of gold to me as a newbie, learnt so much, thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author richrich123
    Purchase 5-10 high quality blog posts. Unique content, PR4+ blogs
    I have a place where I can get good quality blog posts containing my anchor text on high PR sites (PR 5/6) but most only have the post on the high PR index page for 24 hrs or so before it shifts to its own category or archive which will generally be PR0. Is this what you mean?

    The only way I can see to stay on the actual high PR index page of a blog is to buy a blog roll link and they are hard to find and cost a lot.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author danko6
    Hello tnh for this theath
    can you share how you generate keywords
    what exactly is the method
    next or how you ideas for keywords
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    • Profile picture of the author Spartan78
      Hi! Thank you for your sharing. I just want to tell you that i have a website in health niche that rank in 1 place on google for my main keyword. I have 27 posts and i only target one keyword per post. My posts are almost all in 1 and 2 page on google and I am doing only on page SEO ,and just a few manually back links from social bookmarking and directories(5-10 daily). Maybe you don't believe me but it happened to me to just write a 500-800 words post, and in maximum one week my post has come on the first page on google. I thinkn that on page SEO become very important. I make with Adsense between 5-12 euro daily.
      I use CTR theme(If you don't know it here is a site that use it : lifeguardcertification.info ) and I just want to ask you if is ok to make an authority 100+ post using this theme? I ask you this because is a simple theme(not very professional) and i am afraid to change it because i may lose my SERPS position.

      Thank you!
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      • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
        Originally Posted by internetmaster View Post

        Hi

        Thanks for sharing ideas and advice on adsense. and how well you are doing. it would be great if you share your website adresses so that people can really have examples in front. I am looking forward to it. you can PM if you dont want to share with everyone.
        AJ
        You're welcome.

        There is absolutely no way I'd ever share URLs to my money sites. This is just an informational thread, not a course, guide or w/e.

        Originally Posted by HAWTs View Post

        Thanks for sharing
        Originally Posted by anarki450 View Post

        this thread is full of gold to me as a newbie, learnt so much, thanks!
        Thanks for reading. Now go build some sites and make monies, woot!

        Originally Posted by richrich123 View Post

        I have a place where I can get good quality blog posts containing my anchor text on high PR sites (PR 5/6) but most only have the post on the high PR index page for 24 hrs or so before it shifts to its own category or archive which will generally be PR0. Is this what you mean?

        The only way I can see to stay on the actual high PR index page of a blog is to buy a blog roll link and they are hard to find and cost a lot.

        Cheers
        Rich
        Yup, I didn't mean permanent home page posts. Those can cost $50+ for PR3/4. However, I tend to buy from providers who guarantee 1-2 weeks on the home page and low obl. I checked some of the blog posts I bought before the last PR toolbar update, and they're all PR1/2/3/4 now (the actual post page).

        Good investment (IMO), if you buy from a quality provider.

        Originally Posted by danko6 View Post

        Hello tnh for this theath
        can you share how you generate keywords
        what exactly is the method
        next or how you ideas for keywords
        Erm, that would be a very long post, and I don't really have the time for it atm.

        What I do is simply look at problems people struggle with - lets say snoring, healthy diet, etc... and target those keywords. Yes, I actually go after keywords like "how to stop snoring" and "how to get rid of acne".

        Originally Posted by Spartan78 View Post

        Hi! Thank you for your sharing. I just want to tell you that i have a website in health niche that rank in 1 place on google for my main keyword. I have 27 posts and i only target one keyword per post. My posts are almost all in 1 and 2 page on google and I am doing only on page SEO ,and just a few manually back links from social bookmarking and directories(5-10 daily). Maybe you don't believe me but it happened to me to just write a 500-800 words post, and in maximum one week my post has come on the first page on google. I thinkn that on page SEO become very important. I make with Adsense between 5-12 euro daily.
        I use CTR theme(If you don't know it here is a site that use it : lifeguardcertification.info ) and I just want to ask you if is ok to make an authority 100+ post using this theme? I ask you this because is a simple theme(not very professional) and i am afraid to change it because i may lose my SERPS position.

        Thank you!
        Well done on the site.

        Not sure about CTR theme. I don't like it and wouldn't use it, but then that's just a personal opinion.

        And yeah I notice that some sites bring in very good money with little work, while others require a lot more effort. I have a couple sites now doing over $30/day average... Good thing is that even those sites that "flop" can be sold for good money. My worst deal I made around $900 profit after all expenses.

        There is incredible demand for good sites that generate passive income (passive is a relative term) right now. A good site easily fetches 16x monthly earnings in a private sale. But you need good sites for this.

        Lots of people don't believe that you can actually sell sites like that, but that's only because they've no idea what they're talking about.
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  • Profile picture of the author jacksonlin
    And adsense Empire is good, but nothing beats having your own brand and list.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by jacksonlin View Post

      And adsense Empire is good, but nothing beats having your own brand and list.
      I actually agree with this, but that's a completely different topic and a completely different business concept.
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      • Profile picture of the author Spartan78
        Thank you for your answer ! I want to change my CTR theme with Thesis but I am afraid that i will lose my SERPS in google. What do you think about this? Is possible to lose my 1 place position if I change my theme?
        Thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
          Originally Posted by Spartan78 View Post

          Thank you for your answer ! I want to change my CTR theme with Thesis but I am afraid that i will lose my SERPS in google. What do you think about this? Is possible to lose my 1 place position if I change my theme?
          Thanks!
          There's always a chance that you might lose rankings if you do this. I wouldn't change it to be honest. Keep it for a few months and flip it? That's the best option if you can't afford to lose the site/earnings.
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  • Profile picture of the author richrich123
    I would be grateful if you could consider this example below and clarify your guidance:

    I have chosen my primary theme of my domain based on "replacement windscreen wipers" . This is the basis of my site

    Having put this main keywords in adwords, the tool makes suggestions on related keywords and I pick these 3 sub headings as suitable "performance wiper blades", "budget wiper blades" and "premium wiper blades" - home page content sorted, excellent.

    3. Now the task is to choose keywords for inner pages. Call these keyword2, keyword3, keyword4 and keyword5. They must not be the same (or variations) of keywords used to build the homepage
    Could you please clarify re the sub pages part:

    They must not be the same (or variations) of keywords used to build the homepage
    Based on my earlier primary keyword for the index page "replacement windscreen wipers", adwords also shows "replacement car headlight bulbs" or “car bodywork polish” as related keywords.

    So as far as choosing the keyword and a few sub categories for the sub pages, in this example, is "replacement car headlight bulbs" the next suitable main keyword for the sub page or do you mean they should be further windscreen wiper related keywords, just not ones that have already been used on the index page.

    Thanks for all your help, I think these small points will help me to get my adsense sites just right and perform better.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author richrich123
    Yup, I didn't mean permanent home page posts. Those can cost $50+ for PR3/4. However, I tend to buy from providers who guarantee 1-2 weeks on the home page and low obl. I checked some of the blog posts I bought before the last PR toolbar update, and they're all PR1/2/3/4 now (the actual post page).

    Good investment (IMO), if you buy from a quality provider.
    Well that's a relief

    Did you do anything to get the actual pages PR to build on these blog posts? I guess I could do a few blasts on them as a buffer page but I suppose if the main domain has a natural PR of 6/7, the sub pages will build PR of their own accord?

    Cheers, great help as always
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by richrich123 View Post

      or do you mean they should be further windscreen wiper related keywords, just not ones that have already been used on the index page.
      This. That's what I do anyways. Your other example would be better suited for a larger site with a silo structure and possibly a "broader" domain name.

      Originally Posted by richrich123 View Post

      Did you do anything to get the actual pages PR to build on these blog posts? I guess I could do a few blasts on them as a buffer page but I suppose if the main domain has a natural PR of 6/7, the sub pages will build PR of their own accord?
      Nothing. PR just kinda trickles down to the inner pages, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author slomo
    Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post


    Week Four

    Use ALN (authority link network) to post to 500 or so blogs rotating all of your inner page URLs and using random anchors (blog/article/here/post/my blog/this post/click here, etc).

    Use ALN to send 500+ posts to your homepage using loads of anchors (all of your target ones along with click here, here, post, this blog, blog, site, read more, more, to learn more, etc).

    ALN posting can easily be outsourced for around $100.

    Note that this step is only needed in seriously competitive niches.

    I use my own blog network to post 1 blog post a day with an anchor to the homepage. Rotate all homepage keywords and do this for 30-50 days.
    Hello

    Do you link per article to 3 pages or just one link per article?
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  • Profile picture of the author hiok88
    Thanks for your great adsnese strategy !
    Where do you get your facebook likes, google plus ones from?
    Where do you get 5-10 high quality blog posts from?
    Can you tell me on how to find these kind of providers?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by slomo View Post

      Hello

      Do you link per article to 3 pages or just one link per article?
      Depends. If I'm using a service, they either use 3 links or 1 (if it's not a co-op). I normally go for just 1 link though. Had good results with both methods.

      Originally Posted by hiok88 View Post

      Thanks for your great adsnese strategy !
      Where do you get your facebook likes, google plus ones from?
      Where do you get 5-10 high quality blog posts from?
      Can you tell me on how to find these kind of providers?
      For facebook/google - look for providers on forums and ask for recommendations. I've used a guy called "netbiz" from a different forum with some success. Those are only to get the ball rolling really.

      Blog posts - many good providers, though not easy to find. I don't really want to recommend anyone here.

      Best way to find these providers in on IM forums that are not targeted towards complete newbies (like this one). I don't want to link out to any other forums/places from here, that might be against the rules.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marshall83
    Hi,

    I have read all the content from your post, and all I can say is tnx man. This is so clear and good post for everyone and it isn't matter are u just beginner or have some experience with micro niche adsense sites.

    I have one questions. Because u mention somewhere in this post that lately google has changed some of algorithms. I wanna know do u still start your SEO campaign with bookmark blasts. Is there anything that google has changed related to that. What is your experience. Is it ok to start with bookmark blast with page that isnt indexed in google yet and have only 4 posts.

    Let me know what do u think about this.

    U mention that u have some experience with wiki blasts - I'm not sure what that is and u didn't wrote anything about wiki blast as one of methods on the beginning of the this tread.
    Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    The sites cost you 400-500 to build and rank? Adsense flippers spends about 50 each, per their site stats. but then again theirs only avg I think 10/month
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    • Profile picture of the author severt
      Quality, well written SEO/LSI articles cost money.
      I've done a few sites myself, but the articles are the most expensive.
      You don't want them to be spun or whatever, you want unique well written articles with the SEO/LSI aspect in mind...

      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      The sites cost you 400-500 to build and rank? Adsense flippers spends about 50 each, per their site stats. but then again theirs only avg I think 10/month
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      • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
        Originally Posted by severt View Post

        Quality, well written SEO/LSI articles cost money.
        I've done a few sites myself, but the articles are the most expensive.
        You don't want them to be spun or whatever, you want unique well written articles with the SEO/LSI aspect in mind...
        We wouldn't have a problem spending $500 per site for sites that make, on average, $100/month. It's the same ratio we have going right now as Outwest pointed out.

        Our problem is we tried it and it didn't work. (On only 2 sites, admittedly...not a great test)
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        Definitely willing to give it a shot again in the future...we think we would like to diversify the types of sites we build a bit, if possible.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
          Woah, loads of questions! Sorry guys, I've been swamped with work - launching new sites, adding another 50 sites to our PR network and managing my SEO business.

          Oh a side note: one of the sites we sold after two months of stable $5/day earnings is averaging $18/day now without any changes (last couple weeks or something). Just goes to show - don't rush into selling, unless you really need money now. The buyer is, obviously, happy!

          Originally Posted by Marshall83 View Post

          I have one questions. Because u mention somewhere in this post that lately google has changed some of algorithms. I wanna know do u still start your SEO campaign with bookmark blasts. Is there anything that google has changed related to that. What is your experience. Is it ok to start with bookmark blast with page that isnt indexed in google yet and have only 4 posts.

          U mention that u have some experience with wiki blasts - I'm not sure what that is and u didn't wrote anything about wiki blast as one of methods on the beginning of the this tread.
          1. Social bookmarks still work for me, though not as good as 3-5 months ago. I don't think that indexed/not indexed makes any difference, but (just to be on the safe side) I'd wait until Google picks your site up.

          Since a couple weeks ago I've only been using SB's for anchor diversity (meaning submit with 20+ titles) and building links to inner pages. They are quite safe IMO. Better sites get bigger boosts, as always.

          2. Alright... wiki blasts - sent two of my sites back into penalty box (recovered after a month). Experimented with those blasts for a bit and won't be using them any longer. Get a few blog posts on a quality PR4/5/6 blog instead.

          Originally Posted by outwest View Post

          The sites cost you 400-500 to build and rank? Adsense flippers spends about 50 each, per their site stats. but then again theirs only avg I think 10/month
          I'm still working on the "system", but yeah - from $400 all the way up to $1000+. Depends on the niche. They do sell for $2000+ so there's good profit there. Plus I'm planning to keep the winners ($20 day+) and would rather keep 4-6 high quality sites long term than 40+ low quality ones.

          Originally Posted by severt View Post

          Quality, well written SEO/LSI articles cost money.
          I've done a few sites myself, but the articles are the most expensive.
          You don't want them to be spun or whatever, you want unique well written articles with the SEO/LSI aspect in mind...
          Aye, at the moment I'm paying $15 per 500 words. That's $0.03/word, for which I get highly researched content with links back to govt. sources even. The writer specializes in writing health content only, which helps the quality quite a bit.

          Originally Posted by Daniel Ya View Post

          Hi Bnetwork, please let us know in which week your sites normally go from n/a to page 2?
          The last batch of sites we built about a week ago are all on pages 2/3 now with just one PR6 link each. Going to do some bookmarking soon and then start dripping PR5+ blog posts (one per day for 30 days) then re-evaluate things. Testing a new strategy.

          Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

          We wouldn't have a problem spending $500 per site for sites that make, on average, $100/month. It's the same ratio we have going right now as Outwest pointed out.
          Exactly, it's all about the profit margins. I'm really impressed by your system to be honest. We have the capacity to build 50+ sites per month (5-8 pages each, under $50 per site spend), but I have no idea how to sell so many. Well done creating a marketplace for your sites.

          Our problem is we tried it and it didn't work. (On only 2 sites, admittedly...not a great test)
          Our AdSense Authority Site Failure | AdSense Flippers

          Definitely willing to give it a shot again in the future...we think we would like to diversify the types of sites we build a bit, if possible.
          Interesting. Not a single site-fail here (so far, phew). Let me know if you need any pointers, though as they say - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Daniel Ya
            Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

            The last batch of sites we built about a week ago are all on pages 2/3 now with just one PR6 link each. Going to do some bookmarking soon and then start dripping PR5+ blog posts (one per day for 30 days) then re-evaluate things. Testing a new strategy.
            Thanks for your answer Bnetwork!.

            I was asking because I am implementing your strategy on a brand new site, followed all your tips on creating the content and I am currently on week 3, initial bookmarking has been done, high quality blog posts have already been done too. Yesterday I hired someone to post 30+ high PR blog comments, this hasn't finished yet.

            Although I am on week 3, my site is nowhere in Google for my main keyword, site was already indexed before starting link building, already got a couple of visits from long tail keywords, but nothing from the keywords I chosen.

            Is this normal? being on week 3 and nowhere in Google?

            Thanks again!
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            • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
              Originally Posted by jeffreys View Post

              Using your backlinking strategy, will all the keywords rank to first page of google in time?
              The strategies change all the time. I've moved away from ALN blasts for the time being and am currently testing drip-feeding a huge number of high PR blog posts over a long time period.

              Yes, all sites rank for a whole lot of keywords.

              Originally Posted by jeffreys View Post

              Do you have anyone who does the backlinking like you did? I want to outsource my backlinking. Too tedious for me.
              Well, there are many providers. You have to do your homework and test a lot though. Everything worthwhile is going to be tedious, that's why I make money while many others don't.

              Originally Posted by Daniel Ya View Post

              Thanks for your answer Bnetwork!.

              I was asking because I am implementing your strategy on a brand new site, followed all your tips on creating the content and I am currently on week 3, initial bookmarking has been done, high quality blog posts have already been done too. Yesterday I hired someone to post 30+ high PR blog comments, this hasn't finished yet.

              Although I am on week 3, my site is nowhere in Google for my main keyword, site was already indexed before starting link building, already got a couple of visits from long tail keywords, but nothing from the keywords I chosen.

              Is this normal? being on week 3 and nowhere in Google?

              Thanks again!
              One really important factor in this is the actual site. Structure, etc play a huge role in this, but that's a 50+ page course alone, hence I don't even try...

              PM or email me your website, I'll have a look! This is not an invitation for everyone to start PMing me your sites - my inbox is full.
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        • Profile picture of the author MeysterR
          Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

          We wouldn't have a problem spending $500 per site for sites that make, on average, $100/month. It's the same ratio we have going right now as Outwest pointed out.

          Our problem is we tried it and it didn't work. (On only 2 sites, admittedly...not a great test)
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          Definitely willing to give it a shot again in the future...we think we would like to diversify the types of sites we build a bit, if possible.
          This kind of goes along with the sentiment a lot of people have about IM System products that promise the world in their sales lit., but you read through them and they're saying their "system" is paying 2 grand per site, once all paid promotion svc.'s are done, along with the quip, "Wouldn't you spend $2,000 on a site that'll make you $500 a month forever?! I certainly would!". The only problem is you pour everything into these sites and they just flop!
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          • Profile picture of the author cjseb
            WoW!!! Thanks for sharing this wonderful article
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            • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
              Originally Posted by brettb View Post

              Wow, there's some good stuff in this thread!

              I'm still baffled by why one of my sites gets so much more traffic than my other sites. It was the first one I built in a particular niche. Maybe that's why it's done so well. It's not really quality related - my first articles about red toasters were rubbish compared to what I write now.

              I think bounce rate has something to do with it - I have 25 sites and bounce rate is a pretty high indicator of quality and general Google love for a site. However, if your site is too good then people will stick around and not click on ads! Also some topics (e.g. tutorials) have a high bounce rate especially if they're like programming related (e.g. how to do X with a CSS).

              Also my tip is not to put all your eggs in the Wordpress basket. My best site is custom built. I went all in on Wordpress last year but I'm starting to think it was a mistake.

              FYI my good sites have a bounce rate of 65%, my bad sites around 80%.

              Oh god, this whole business is so complex I wonder why any newbies consider it at all!
              1. More keyword searches and/or higher rankings? That's about all there is to it.

              2. My bounce rates are always below 35% (mostly ~27% or so, with a few sites over 30%). Building good sites and making users stay on the site isn't bad - just aim for ad clicks at the bottom of the page instead.

              3. It gets better with practice.

              Originally Posted by MeysterR View Post

              This kind of goes along with the sentiment a lot of people have about IM System products that promise the world in their sales lit., but you read through them and they're saying their "system" is paying 2 grand per site, once all paid promotion svc.'s are done, along with the quip, "Wouldn't you spend $2,000 on a site that'll make you $500 a month forever?! I certainly would!". The only problem is you pour everything into these sites and they just flop!
              Not sure what systems you're talking about, but building a business isn't a new concept. Test what works for you and grow. Maybe it's the "chasing easy money" mentality that gets people buying products that promise the world? Come on now, we all know there's no such thing as easy money (that lasts).

              Originally Posted by cjseb View Post

              WoW!!! Thanks for sharing this wonderful article
              No problem!! Go do some work now!

              On a side note: it's great to see that some people have actually taken the plunge and decided to give work a shot! I hope you all succeed!
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffreys
    Using your backlinking strategy, will all the keywords rank to first page of google in time?
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    Do you have anyone who does the backlinking like you did? I want to outsource my backlinking. Too tedious for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    You say you only keep a few sites on each account

    what kind of account?
    Adsense account? You have more than 1 of those or
    you have more than 1 hosting account

    please clarify
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      You say you only keep a few sites on each account

      what kind of account?
      Adsense account? You have more than 1 of those or
      you have more than 1 hosting account

      please clarify
      Adsense. I'm paranoid when it comes to monetization, hence I use multiple Adsense accounts. All legit though, but I won't discuss this any further here.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    If I was still in the USA I might do the same or else I can just get other acct here
    but its more than a little bit of a pain in the butt getting business license here

    in my city in the USA? One piece of paper and 100 bucks in one day and you are good to go. Here? whew
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      If I was still in the USA I might do the same or else I can just get other acct here
      but its more than a little bit of a pain in the butt getting business license here

      in my city in the USA? One piece of paper and 100 bucks in one day and you are good to go. Here? whew
      It's not really that important (if at all) to have multiple accounts... I just sleep better at night knowing that not all of my sites are under the same account/name. Losing a $20/day site would suck, especially knowing that I could have sold it for $6000 or more... now imagine losing 3-4 such websites. Ouch.
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      • Profile picture of the author outwest
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

        It's not really that important 9if at all) to have multiple accounts... I just sleep better at night knowing that not all of my sites are under the same account/name. Losing a $20/day site would suck, especially knowing that I could have sold it for $6000 or more... now imagine losing 3-4 such websites. Ouch.
        Ya I cant say I blame you
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Wow, there's some good stuff in this thread!

    I'm still baffled by why one of my sites gets so much more traffic than my other sites. It was the first one I built in a particular niche. Maybe that's why it's done so well. It's not really quality related - my first articles about red toasters were rubbish compared to what I write now.

    I think bounce rate has something to do with it - I have 25 sites and bounce rate is a pretty high indicator of quality and general Google love for a site. However, if your site is too good then people will stick around and not click on ads! Also some topics (e.g. tutorials) have a high bounce rate especially if they're like programming related (e.g. how to do X with a CSS).

    Also my tip is not to put all your eggs in the Wordpress basket. My best site is custom built. I went all in on Wordpress last year but I'm starting to think it was a mistake.

    FYI my good sites have a bounce rate of 65%, my bad sites around 80%.

    Oh god, this whole business is so complex I wonder why any newbies consider it at all!
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  • Profile picture of the author azwanhd
    Thanks for this post. I really appreciate the time you take to reply most of the questions. Some of the questions and answers cleared a few doubts.

    For newbies, this is going to be a lot of work and a lot of understanding especially on the terms used. But this could be a jump start to a profitable income with adsense. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    VERY VERY good post. Thanks a bunch for sharing with all of us...

    No need to go out there and spend money on get rich quick adsense courses...it doesn't exist.

    All you pretty much gatta do is follow the main concepts in this great post.

    Thanks bro!

    -Omar
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  • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
    The strategies change all the time. I've moved away from ALN blasts for the time being and am currently testing drip-feeding a huge number of high PR blog posts over a long time period.
    Good call ... how do you define a Huge Number?

    Drip Feed? [ to me thats less than 500 a day ... lol ]

    Wonder if we might do a review copy for you of SE Supernet High PR blog posts - and add in some tier 2 web 2.0's
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  • Profile picture of the author AskJon
    Awesome thread mate, keep it up! Definitely a great guide for anyone starting!!
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    • Profile picture of the author djlest
      great thread
      great follow ups
      and love the way he thinks outside the box and isnt afraid to spend money
      he has faith in his system!
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    Thanks for the great guide on adsense.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

      Good call ... how do you define a Huge Number?

      Drip Feed? [ to me thats less than 500 a day ... lol ]

      Wonder if we might do a review copy for you of SE Supernet High PR blog posts - and add in some tier 2 web 2.0's
      In my case that's just one post per day... But these are on legit PR5/6 blogs with thousands of backlinks and hundreds of high PR pages. Seeing good boosts so far, but my site is new - that doesn't help.

      I wouldn't have time to review anything, though thanks for the offer! Just so busy right now, haven't had a day off in two weeks.

      Originally Posted by KeepItSimpleSilly View Post

      Great tips, very down to earth, thanks again !
      You're welcome!

      Originally Posted by OmarNegron View Post

      VERY VERY good post. Thanks a bunch for sharing with all of us...

      No need to go out there and spend money on get rich quick adsense courses...it doesn't exist.

      All you pretty much gatta do is follow the main concepts in this great post.

      Thanks bro!

      -Omar
      Don't forget to always test and learn new things! By that I don't mean choose random new areas to to research. Just... always learn from mistakes and aim to improve a small set of skills, whatever you do.

      Originally Posted by AskJon View Post

      Awesome thread mate, keep it up! Definitely a great guide for anyone starting!!
      Originally Posted by djlest View Post

      great thread
      great follow ups
      and love the way he thinks outside the box and isnt afraid to spend money
      he has faith in his system!
      Haha, yeah. To many people spending $500 on a website seems like a rip-off. I don't get that mentality. You can't build a business without some kind of investment (either a very considerable time and skill investment or a mix of money, time and skill).

      Originally Posted by douglasltc View Post

      Thanks for the great guide on adsense.
      No problem!
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  • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Rotzee
    Good job man. That was a very well thought out guide for newbies...wish I had this when I started off =D
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    Hey bnetwork. Sent you over a PM. I am familiar with Adsense and niche websites and had a quick question hopefully you could answer.

    Thanks a bunch!

    -Omar
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    Great article. This really works.
    If you implement these steps and use this guide there is really no way you can go wrong with adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author richrich123
    Hi,

    Using all the fantastic information on the thread, i am about to have a go at an adsence site based on this guide. There is just one area I am not clear on and would really, really, really appreciate a few mintues of your time to clarify. To try and make it clear, I have just picked a random keyword and used this as an example as it will probably be clearer.

    So I decide to make a site relating to back pain. I have a look at the high level keyword "back pain" and can see it has 74,000 exact matchs per month (and way too much competition) so I have a look at the suggested keywords based on 'back pain' and spot a potential good one:

    "low back pain" - High Competition - 8,100 exact match searches per month and £3.95 per click - looks ideal based on your guide. So lets say I buy a domain called lowbackpain.net.

    So I have a look at related keywords based on "low back pain" - as per your guide looking for 3-5 sub keywords with 300+ exact matches and medium to high ad words competition. Here is what I find:

    low back pain exercises: 2,400 / £3.00 / High
    low back pain treatment: 880 / 4.82 / High
    low back pain relief: 590 / 4.94 / High

    Perfect - So leaving it at just 3 sub keywords for now, that is the index page completed, main keyword and 3 sub keywords - Now is the bit that I get a bit stuck on. You suggest another 3-4 keywords, each one for a new page and each page having a couple more sub keywords.

    Now this is where I am struggling because further keywords relating to "low back pain" are now drying up (and this is what I am finding when I have looked at a lot of other keywords). I can't really see any more keywords that relate to "low back pain" and have 300+ exact searches and are suitable for a page heading that then have even further sub keywords.

    What happens is I end up with what is really a totally different keyword for the subsequent pages e.g "sciatica pain" - high competition, 5,400 exact matches and £1.98 and from this I can find a few sub keywords. While "sciatica pain" does relate to the main site topic of back pain, it is really a totally different keyword and I suspect taking me away from what you suggest.

    I would be really grateful if you have 5 mins to spare if you could maybe use the main keyword example of "low back pain" and just list a few keywords you would use on the main page and more importantly a sub page keyword and the couple of sub page keywords.

    Hopefully that will make it a lot clearer as I think I am going away from your method

    Cheers
    Rich
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by richrich123 View Post

      Hopefully that will make it a lot clearer as I think I am going away from your method
      Right, let me see...

      First I'd like to say that my "method" is only a rough guide at best. I wrote it without much analysis, basing it only on what I do daily, sort of casual...

      OK, a couple things:
      • Try to make article headings and sub-headings appear natural. Mix the keywords in nicely.
      • If something makes sense but doesn't meet the "requirements/guidelines", just go for it.
      With that in mind, lets create a quick outline for a website.

      Homepage (2000 words)

      Low Back Pain (title followed by a quick intro paragraph, very short)
      Back Pain (sub-heading; short paragraph or two; talk about back pain, how common it is and types - lower, upper, etc)
      Low Back Pain Symptoms and Types (sub-heading, can be split up into two parts; list symptoms and types in some organized fashion)
      Low Back Pain Treatment (sub-heading; quickly list methods to treat low back pain and possibly link out to inner pages for each method)
      Conclusion (really short paragraph)

      Page One (800-1200 words)

      Lower Back Pain Exercises (title - very briefly talk about why exercise is good for low back pain)
      Exercises for Low Back Pain (sub-heading; a list of exercises with instructions, possibly images)

      Page Two (800-1000 words)

      Lower Back Pain Causes (title - briefly mention that there are numerous causes)
      What Causes Lower Back Pain (sub-heading; this is where you expand on the intro paragraph)
      Lower Back Pain Causes in Men (sub-heading; pick a few from 2nd paragraph and list + one sentence summary for each)
      Lower Back Pain Causes in Women (sub-heading; pick a few from 2nd paragraph and list + one sentence summary for each)

      Page Three (500-600 words)

      Lower Back Pain During Pregnancy (title - this is a shorter article so no sub-headings)

      Page Four (700-1000 words)

      Chronic Lower Back Pain (title - briefly mention what chronic back pain is)
      Chronic Lower Back Pain Causes (sub-heading; list causes with explanations)
      Chronic Lower Back Pain Relief (sub-heading; talk about possible ways to relieve the pain, possibly link out to other pages)

      Page Five (600-1000 words)

      Stretches for Lower Back Pain (title - list a few exercises with instructions and images if possible)

      OK so there you go, a full site layout all good to go!

      Now note that while the majority of keywords used here do meet my criteria, some don't. That's ok, because we want the sites to make sense. This is very important to me.

      Another thing - the possibilities to expand the site are almost endless. For instance, you could add a page titled "Best Exercises for Lower Back Pain During Pregnancy" to complement current page four - "Lower Back Pain During Pregnancy".

      When a site picks up and starts making money, depending on it's potential, I start adding more articles. Once you've exhausted all possible "easy" topics, start writing articles like "Lower Back Exercises for Spring" and such (pick a few exercises one can do outside - jogging/walking/etc - and write up a magazine-like piece).

      Make it flow, make it user-friendly.

      I do this kind of analysis a lot (daily) and really put a lot of thought into each site. This is a very rough draft, but it should give you a better idea of how I do things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
    Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

    NOTE: Read this is you are struggling or new. You are going to make money if you follow the advice here. You may also decide that IM is not for you, because this is a load of hard work.

    UPDATE: once your'e done with this post, read my quick niche research example here.

    I've been reading the forum for a while now, answering questions where I can. It seems like this place gets thousands of newbie visitors every single day, as the same threads are created daily.

    I also recognize that most of you are never going to make it in IM. That's because you aren't treating this as a business, lack motivation, have no focus, want to get rick quick now, etc. That's fine.

    Here's a tested strategy that I've been using to build up a side business which doesn't require a lot of babysitting.

    Basically, what I do is create medium sized, high quality information websites and get the pages ranked #1 for multiple keywords. Then, once traffic starts to pick up, I add Adsense and start optimising. Keep some of the sites, sell (flip) the rest.

    I'll structure this post into several key sections, but feel free to ask questions in the thread. This is just a quick overview.

    1. Keyword research (selection)

    I honestly have no idea which way is best, but I tend to follow these rules:
    • Pick keywords that get a minimum of 5000+ exact match local US searches for main keywords.
    • For inner pages I'll take anything that gets over 300+ exact match local US searches.
    • Must have high/medium Adwords competition (Google KWT) and a decent CPC $1+.

    Okay so here goes the whole process...

    1. Decide what will be the main keyword. Lets call it keyword1, it has high Adwords competition, CPC of $1+ and gets 6600 exact local US searches.

    2. Put this keyword into Google KWT and pick 3-5 closely related keywords that make sense to use in the same article as sub-headings. This is important, because I always go for top quality.

    So now we have 3-5 keywords with CPCs of $1+, medium/high Adwords competition and search counts of 300+ exact match US local. These keywords complement keyword1 well.

    3. Now the task is to choose keywords for inner pages. Call these keyword2, keyword3, keyword4 and keyword5.

    These should be around 700+ exact local US searches, at least medium Adwords CPC and -this is important- they must not be the same (or variations) of keywords used to build the homepage.

    Think about it. You want your inner pages to complement the homepage nicely. To be like an extension of it. No need to repeat the same (homepage) info over and over again in the inner pages.

    4. Once you have your inner page keywords ready, it's time to find 1-2 related sub-heading keywords for each of them. These can be anything related (must make sense in the article) with at least 300+ local US exact match searches.

    2. Domain name selection

    I know that EMDs (exact match domains) are still all the craze, but I honestly don't use them.
    • I use partial EMDs that make sense and can be branded.
    • Only .com

    Most of my sites are bestkeyword1.com or topkeyword1.com or aboutkeyword1.com or keyword1advice.com or keyword1fast.com or keyword1quickly.com... you get the point.

    Because I'm not obsessed with finding EMDs, I tend to go after much more lucrative keywords.

    3. Website structure

    1. Homepage. I go with at least 1500 words of quality content. Most of my sites have 2000 word homepages. This allows me to rank for multiple keywords.

    Homepage structure:

    [page title - main keyword]
    [intro paragraph]
    [contents table]
    [sub-heading1 (remember keywords)]
    [sub-heading2]
    [sub-heading3]
    ...
    [conclusion]
    [either related posts area or a disclaimer if needed]

    Now don't forget to format the whole thing properly. Put the main keyword in h1 tags and each sub-heading in h2 tags.

    Content tables aren't necessary, but they do help. Especially if the page is long. Think about user experience.

    Related posts at the end are not necessary either, it's all up to you and what you think would improve visitor experience.

    I always have Facebook like and Google+ buttons at the top of the page, under article title. This is important to me, because most of the sites I have get regular likes (daily). That tells me that people love the sites. Great.

    Inner-pages.

    Pretty much the same as the homepage, but less content.
    • Articles 500 to 1200 words long (depends on the topic and how many sub-headings you have for each article).
    • Same structure. Don't forget to h1 and h2 relevant keywords/titles.
    • Don't forget Facebook like/Google+ buttons.
    • Related posts at the end if you feel they are needed. In most cases I have Google Ads there.

    Important.

    Format the articles well. Use related images/pictures throughout, place them inside the text nicely.

    Some more structure stuff.

    I only use WordPress. I like it, find it easy to use and all that. No other reason.

    All of my sites have static homepages. Inner pages are set as "pages" as well. I don't use "posts" at first, but I do have a "page" called /blog or /articles for future use (if I want to expand the site and add a blog part).

    Get rid of all the crap links. Credentials, meta stuff, bylines, all that crap goes. Clean and nice.

    4. Rankings

    Okay, there's a lot to talk about here and I can't cover it all. Just a quick summary.

    Week One

    Build the site, add homepage content and 2 inner pages. Set the other 3-4 pages to be posted weekly.

    Blast the homepage with 1000+ social bookmarks using 4-5 anchor text titles (remember main keyword+sub-headings). I do this on days 3-5 or whatever...

    Get someone to send 100+ Facebook likes and 20 or more Google+1s to your homepage. This is important to get the ball rolling. People are hesitant to "like" a site until they see others doing it. It really does make a massive difference.

    Week Two

    Purchase 5-10 high quality blog posts. Unique content, PR4+ blogs. Drip feed these over 3-5 days. I only use the main keyword, one URL per blog post and target the homepage only.

    Week Three

    Get 30+ high PR blog comments to the homepage. Use all of the homepage keywords.

    I tend to blast all of the inner pages with 1000+ social bookmarks (200-300 bookmarks per page).

    Order a press release. Use the homepage keyword (just one). You need to use a quality service for this, not just any $20 provider.

    Week Four

    Use ALN (authority link network) to post to 500 or so blogs rotating all of your inner page URLs and using random anchors (blog/article/here/post/my blog/this post/click here, etc).

    Use ALN to send 500+ posts to your homepage using loads of anchors (all of your target ones along with click here, here, post, this blog, blog, site, read more, more, to learn more, etc).

    ALN posting can easily be outsourced for around $100.

    Note that this step is only needed in seriously competitive niches.

    I use my own blog network to post 1 blog post a day with an anchor to the homepage. Rotate all homepage keywords and do this for 30-50 days.

    Week Five

    Note that this step is not compulsory, it all depends on your current rankings.

    I like to strengthen my link portfolio and send a huge 3000+ social bookmarking blast to the homepage using 20 or so anchors (random phrases, very short keywords, etc).

    Week Six

    At this point I'm normally #1 for at least 2-3 homepage keywords. How you proceed from here is up to you. Tweak your pages, rank inner pages, add a blog and do some internal linking to the important pages, etc.

    At this point adding a /blog and scheduling 50 or 100 articles to be posted to it over a few months can pay off big time. Only do it if you see that the site has lots of potential.

    5. Monetization

    I use Adsense. Only add it once the site starts getting 50+ search visitors daily.
    • Make sure that the ads complement the site structure/colours nicely.
    • I don't have ads at the very top.
    • Play around with different placements.
    • Sidebar ads never convert for me.

    Some of my best earners are bottom of page ads. Either using a large rectangle (text only) at the end of each article or using two medium rectangles (image only and text only) side-by-side.

    I tend to have two 486x60 (I think) text-only ads inside the content. You need to know where your visitors focus most of their attention and place them there.

    6. Some extras

    Don't obsess with tracking your rankings. I use serpfox.com and find them good for my needs. Cheap as well. Only check rankings once a day. Sometimes less often.

    Never used Google Analytics myself, no reason why. I like getclicky. Get a paid (very cheap) version - it's amazing. Real time visitor statistics, etc. Simply amazing.

    Aim for a bounce rate below or around 30% (search visitors).

    You can try using clicktale.com to find where your visitors are focusing their attention. They have a free account which was enough for me when I got started.

    My worst earners average $4-$4.50 daily with Adsense. These sites cost me around $400-$500 each to build and rank (depends on niche). Can go all the way up to $1000 if I see lots of potential - but those earn $10+ daily.

    When you have rankings proof, proper visitor statistics and earnings history (at least 3 months of steady earnings) - you can easily flip the site for 15x monthly earnings. It also helps to wait until a PR update hits, because you'll normally get PR3 or so which helps the site look more established.

    Sell some of the sites, keep the rest.

    I'm pretty sure that I've forgotten to mention a lot of important stuff, but this is getting really long. I'll stop here - feel free to ask questions. I may take a while to answer, cause I only check here once a day.

    Good luck.

    "Now don't forget to format the whole thing properly. Put the main keyword in h1 tags and each sub-heading in h2 tags."

    How do you place the H1 tag on your pages using word press ?...since the title is at the top of the page and is a h2 tag..it kind of turns into a cluster at the top when you add your h1 tag with your keyword...any tips ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

      "Now don't forget to format the whole thing properly. Put the main keyword in h1 tags and each sub-heading in h2 tags."

      How do you place the H1 tag on your pages using word press ?...since the title is at the top of the page and is a h2 tag..it kind of turns into a cluster at the top when you add your h1 tag with your keyword...any tips ?
      Woah, that's a huge quote, lol!

      Either edit the theme files or use theme settings (depends on your theme really). I do a lot of coding, but newbies or less experienced people might struggle. Don't over think this though, it won't break your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
    I'm using word press..that is all I use..so do you have a fix for this ?..It just looks stupid having the title and the h1 tag at the top right under the other
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  • Profile picture of the author t3ch
    excellent post, simple to folow too.

    Can you explain how you structure your page?
    You said that you make all article in pages rite, so do you categories them?
    Can you explain how you structure both page and post?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author richrich123
    One last question (hopefully) you suggested press release monkey, they have a lot op options from $15 - $149. Which one do you find works for you?
    Ta
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

      so do you have a fix for this?
      Nope, you'll have to figure it out yourself I'm afraid.

      Originally Posted by t3ch View Post

      Can you explain how you structure your page?
      You said that you make all article in pages rite, so do you categories them?
      Can you explain how you structure both page and post?
      Sure. I only use pages for these sites, that's correct. No categories (I don't think you can assign pages to categories anyway).

      I don't really use posts on these sites. As for pages, what do you mean by structure? There's a write up a few replies up^^ with an example article/subject layout.

      Originally Posted by richrich123 View Post

      One last question (hopefully) you suggested press release monkey, they have a lot op options from $15 - $149. Which one do you find works for you?
      Ta
      I use the $149 version, but there's a discount floating around for certain forum members (google "press release monkey discount" and look for forum threads). The price with a discount is $99 for a full PR.

      Be careful though, I just had a newish site sent to the sandbox after a PR. It'll come back stronger in a month or two, but just a quick warning - these things happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author t3ch
    thanks for the answer.

    regarding how you organised keyword for your homepage and inner pages article, let me said it again of what i understood of it and tell me if i'm wrong:

    Homepage:
    small kitchen table (main keyword)
    small white kitchen table (sub heading)
    small kitchen table with chair (sub heading)

    Inner page 1
    big kitchen table (main keyword)
    big roiunded kitchen table (sub heading)
    best big kitchen table (sub heading)

    Inner page 2
    black kitchen table (main keyword)
    black kitchen table reviews (sub heading)

    Is that correct?
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    I know this question is a bit all over the map but

    with your present knowledge and methods

    how long would it take you to build up a 100/day adsense income (if you started from lets say today,) at zero Adsense income , and what would that cost you in development costs?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      How much time would you say you spent on these sites for a total of how many sites?
      It's almost impossible to tell... I don't know.

      I'm continuing to build these sites into a large health site network. The plan is to have at least 30 websites by end of summer. Some sites now average $18/day, while others are still at around $4-6/day.

      I noticed a huge increase in Adsense earnings after 3+ months of solid #1 rankings. That could be due to advertisers targeting the sites more often, I don't know.

      I've also noticed a massive increase in hostility from other webmasters. It's getting ridiculous, I must have filed at least 3 DMCA complaints last week for copying my content (word for word) - probably trying to get my sites penalized. This is happening with sites that get 300+ visitors/day in competitive health sub-niches. Really frustrating.

      I'm also well on my way to building a large blog network to back up my sites. The network is focused around health topics only and is completely private. So far we have 55 sites in the network and the goal is to reach 80+ sites by start of summer.

      As you can see, I'm going all out with this. I'm moving to Malta at the end of May and then leaving for a long trip around the world after that. I'm planning to downsize my outsourcing business a lot (already am) and mostly focus on Adsense income and selling websites. Wish me luck, I need it.


      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      I know this question is a bit all over the map but

      with your present knowledge and methods

      how long would it take you to build up a 100/day adsense income (if you started from lets say today,) at zero Adsense income , and what would that cost you in development costs?
      I answered before you edited the post, ouch.

      Ok so... this is almost impossible to answer tbh. Tell you what - ask me in a couple of months and I'll give you the answer. I'm building new sites right now, lets see where we're at in a couple months time. My guess: 8-10 websites, three months and $3000-4000 in costs.
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  • Profile picture of the author t3ch
    Are you using H2 only as subheading? if so there will be many H2?
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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    I do appreciate your excellent post.

    One question - You mentioned that you have facebook like and google+ on your site. Do you use a specific plugin for that? Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author mikengo
    OP, are you still using ALN for ranking?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    I don't use ALN any more - the whole guide is pretty much outdated now (at least the SEO part). I've changed my strategy to a more long-term focused approach where I don't need to fear Google algorithm changes.

    Don't have enough time to update this right now, sorry about that guys! I've been meaning to start a blog and write more about this sort of thing, but business life is kicking my ass every single day. Lots to learn, lots to do, not enough time.
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