Why bother with Adsense when you could be making more and Faster without them?

ya sorry i noticed that I am reading it now thanks

I agree, assets can be acquired faster with more money. Offering a service is a great way to generate some capital but if you just keep offering your service you're not collecting assets. The guy who accumulates assets and is smart about it will make more money. That's just the way the world works. Its the owners of things who get richest not the people working for those people.

Lol, this is an SEO service guys myth. I have many sites that require no maintenance that have generated the same amount of income for years now . Besides that, we're not talking about ZERO maintenance, we are talking about LESS maintenance so we can leverage our energy and time.


Surely you jest?



I never said they didn't take work. (I like your list though good points in there..."thinking about your business" lol)

I said over time you COULD make more money from less work.

Also, here's a definition of "Asset" for you:

"Assets are economic resources. Anything tangible or intangible that is capable of being owned or controlled to produce value and that is held to have positive economic value is considered an asset. Simply stated, assets represent ownership of value that can be converted into cash (although cash itself is also considered an asset)"

MFA's seem to fit the definition just fine.

Its not a misguided hope to make money with MFA's, there are plenty of people experiencing success.

I wonder if the cheques I and many other publishers collect every month are a myth too!?

To me, that is a very fair assessment. There are in fact a lot of people that have no business providing seo services. I have seen, on this board and others, people post a question that says something like "I just got my first seo client, how do I build links to get them to rank?". lol that is a scam if I've ever seen one. It gives the industry a bad name, but it also allows good seo providers the opportunity to charge more for the services that they provide I would assume.

Its difficult for me to comment too much on how managing seo clients works, because I have never done it and really know very little about it.

Well how about just being an SEO that doesn't screw over anybody? Meanwhile people and their adsense content junk mess up a lot of people. I see them in the health niche all the while with crappy articles with bad medical related advice that people that don't know better will believe because its ranked by Google. I got to shake my head that adsense affects no one else when MFAs junk up so many search results with garbage even in searches where people are looking for potentially life saving advice or desperately important financial direction.

Bnet what we will never agree on is that there is ANY venture that is easy to make money in. You completely are distorting my position to suit yours. I assume that ANY business that makes good money will require hard work. I'm not advocating that people that sit back on their rear end and never learn anything go ahead and enter SEO. I fully accept what you and others have said about people offering SEO services that are a complete joke and should not be offering anything. My rep around here is to give people a full head on analysis (my detractors call it something farless flattering and are probably right) when they come with some weak SEO knowledge and claim they are the best SEO on the planet.

But you know what my answer to that is? Its part of the IM culture that I hate and MFA proponents are also directly responsible. Whats the SEO alternative of

" Next month You can Make $20,000 a month while sitting on your coach watching TV"

Its the MFA lazy I don't have to do nothing but buy a domain and put adsense code on a site and I will retire.

See I am not convinced that everyone that fails at MFA or even IM are mindless dolts that can't make anything work. Many of them have day jobs that require thought and work. Its just that many of their minds turn to mush when they read the testimonials from the guys selling kits that because its the internet they can make cash with the push of a button.

You act like its something in their DNA or all of their low IQs where I think if we didn't have these rubbish get rich lazy approaches people WOULD wise up. How do I know I am right? Because I have seen people who were into MFAs and crappy SEO wise up over the years and now run their business extremely sensible - With hardwork.

Bottom line - "make money easy with MFAS", "do nothing but link spam blast sites to the top" and "get rich overnight" are all the same mentality and adsense proponents very often own that.

If you don't own hardwork as the key to success you have nothing to be indignant about . Whether you do SEO, adsense or any kind of IM you ARE the problem.

Try reading the OP again. You might see that it was addressing people who have or would WORK long at adsense not sitting on their thumbs.

Well, I use wordpress for all of my sites, not because I think there are any favoritism or anything from google, just because I find it to be a solid cms which is reliable and easy to use. I also like to support community based projects, which WP is.

So with that being said, my sites generally use a static page as the homepage. But, they are not "just an article". I usually have a 1500+ word article on the HP, but I structure it with tables, graphs, images etc. So, when the page is done my site looks more like what you would expect to see on a corporate site or a community resource type of site and so on.

First impressions mean a lot and I want my visitors first impression to be that my site is a serious resource for those interested in this particular niche.

A lot of guys say that they like to keep their MFA sites plain because they get more clicks. But, I have found that if you present yourself as a respectable company or resource then you get even more clicks, because people "trust" you. They don't feel threatened by the ads or are not concerned about them possibly being junk, because such a quality website would surely link to reputable sources.

Think about how a site gets traffic to make the money and tell me the difference? There isn't any.

I can accept that you misspoke because you did if you go back and read what you wrote. it IS representing its something you can repeat easily over and over again and no mention at all about luck

You represented that it was all simple with an easily repeated process over and over with multiple terms. I didn't take it out of context.

Most of my content is written by me. I learn the industry before I build the site. I do my research and get to know how things work, what things are required and so forth. That way I can offer advice and information that provides people with the answers that they are looking for. I have been listed as a third party resource by many government agencies for various sites. I also receive hundreds of emails a day from people thanking me for the help and services that I offer.

You don't have to be an expert, you just have to find the answers to what people are looking for and make them accessible. People are surprisingly easy to please, if you make the effort to do so.

Another common tactic that I use is to communicate with people that are in the industry, educate them on search engines work, the value of backlinks and then encourage them to write content for my site in exchange for these benefits.

Basically, yes you are over thinking it. And over thinking will do nothing but send you into a downward spiral at some point. Over thinking leads to stress and procrastination.

Don't worry about what might happen when you get there. Worry about getting there and then use the feedback that you receive to make adjustments so that people are happy with what you offer.

Using your niche, medical, how many medical/healthcare sites do you think are actually written by doctors? Very few. In fact most of the content is written by people like you or me. You can't offer medical advice, but you can offer alternative solutions and information.

Did you know that most government work is not copyrighted? Any work created by government employees is entered directly into the public domain. The exception being work that was created by an outside contractor. Which means that sites like the CDC and Health.gov, etc., can all be used as tools for you to find the information you need to provide adequate information to your site visitors.

Actually, in the second paragraph there I was making a generalization about that particular business model, not pointed at you directly. So, my apologies if you took it that way. I don't pretend to know what anyone earns from their sites as it really isn't any of my business.

However, while you may be an exception, it is more common to find people chasing the small pieces of pie earning very little if anything at all. Much of the information out there today recommends that people chase these 1000/month search terms etc., and typically that advice does nothing but set them up for failure down the road.