The end of all Rental Contextual backlink Networks? What would you do?

Really Has nothing to do with a class of people though- only to do with how the sites are setup. it will never affect all your competition because not everyone sets their sites up the same way or use rental networks. Losing link opportunities never makes it easier only harder to rank. You are just assuming that all your competitors would be doing the exact same thing. In most serps they are not.

Frankly this affects Imers more. People with more money to spend will not be affected at all. No algo can determine that a link was or was not bought and no lgo can look at a site with good and relevant content to the links on it and determine it is not a legitimate link. An algo can spot too many links and potentially too many different subjects though so thats why services that only make money by adding more and more are getting dinged.

Good for you. I don't have affiliates or I would sign you up. If you knew anything about WF you would know that most people ignore sigs unless someone like you brings them up. So thanks for the extra advertising

Fortunately or unfortunately I have nothing to do with what Terry Kyle said and thats what prompted this thread.

Despite mavs comments my sole answer to this is NOT your own networks. Most Imers are not of the mind to build their own. thats why I said the days of "cheap" networks may be over and I think thats what Terry Kyle is getting at as well. Like I just said in another thread IMers are going to have to deal with providers that build their networks differently with an eye toward lower OBL and quality control. SO they are going to have to charge more. Thats why i asked the question - What will you do? Its not just about building networks because many cannot or will not

This isn't about BMR not being worth the money. I've recommended them to people. What Terry's point is is that they cannot survive being deindexed by Google. They simply cannot buy new domains and set them up as fast as Google can deindex their investment. Has little to do with them working - THEY CLEARLY DO. Its about their survival not their effectiveness. Takes alot of money to buy aged domains with PR and setup these sites up. Its probably why BMR stopped taking new customers. IF they can limit their exposure they may be able to limit their risk and survive.

I can agree with that. What he said about OBL not mattering to me was always pretty bad advice. I don't mention him as an expert but as guy that used to run a fairly popular home page network. That said he has put out some good stuff in these forums in the past and I do have a certain amount of respect for him.

From what I saw of it it wasn't bad but look SEO courses will always get slapped by some because they assume everyone knows SEO. From what I see in these forums there are alot of people who would do well to take a course.

I'm sorry but I don't think you really know what is going on. I don't come from it from user angle and neither does Terry. We come at it from the SEO network builder angle and there is no scaremongering. its a FACT that many SEO networks have been deindexed. HPBS are not closing down service that made them serious cash just to "scaremonger". Sure some people are crying about their results etc but when you do an info search for your domain and it does not show up its not subjective. Its gone and so is your investment.

If you must know I brought this subject up because I felt I have to both in private and in public because people associate home page backlink networks with SEO networks in general. I already got emails from clients asking me what I think about it. SO I am talking about it here as well. Will I point out how networks youown yourself or are run by other can be set up in a way that doesn't get them deindexed? Yes.

I asked the question because HPBS may very well NOT be dead but there is no doubt that Google is after them. its not scaremongering to point out the evidence. The thing that people can do about those facts now is to choose not just the easiest networks that allow you to put up any junk but to pick networks that have quality policies that might survive (thats not a sig plug as I don't run any such rental services).

Theres always another side to the scaremongering and thats those who just don't want to hear facts as long as they are not be affected. People are crying about loss rankings and complain as you want about that they are entitled on a board that is for such discussion.

We could and he or she wouldn't say a word. Why would they put themselves at risk. In this case however none is needed. Multiple services are reporting loss of sites to deindexing. Its not just people complaining about their loss of position in the results.

Actually it seems that has in fact happened with a bunch of services but you have to realize when a service gets hit with massive deindexing of their sites they are not likely to announce it to their subscribers. They are more likely to quietly deal with it. Unless some of their subscribers start checking on the domains they wouldn't even know they are hit. A deindexed site can still show PR in the toolbar

So could BMR recently have just decided to close new users because they needed to upgrade etc? Sure but if the reason for the upgrades and having too many users for the sites they have was because a bunch were deindexed I wouldn't expect them to include that info. So you never know.