HighPRSociety.com is closing to new members

12 years ago

Yep. Figures this day would come where Google catches up to the PR blog networks. Something new will spring up in their place if they don't bounce back.

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retsek

12 years ago

BMR seems to be at least partially hit.

I have a few sites that rely on them solely for links, they all took a drive of between 5 to 50 positions for keywords that were targeted.

However, the vast majority of my sites have varied sources of backlinks including BMR. They've all remained at the their exact same positions or increased.

In particular, the ones where I have done Yahoo Directory, DMOZ and PRWeb have seen the biggest increases.

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outwest

12 years ago

Originally Posted by retsek

BMR seems to be at least partially hit.

I have a few sites that rely on them solely for links, they all took a drive of between 5 to 50 positions for keywords that were targeted.

However, the vast majority of my sites have varied sources of backlinks including BMR. They've all remained at the their exact same positions or increased.

In particular, the ones where I have done Yahoo Directory, DMOZ and PRWeb have seen the biggest increases.

yahoo and DMOZ dont you have to pay for those?

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MaverickUK

12 years ago

Everything is circumstantial and people can't seem to see past this, because they're so jaded by these scare tactics that they put 1 and 1 together and get 9. I have websites, ones that i don't particularly care about, that rely solely on BMR and NONE of them have been hit.

I also have sites that rely on both BMR and other forms of backlinks that have not been hit either. The only drop i've seen recently was one of my websites ranking for a local term - which was due to the update Google introduced relating to local orientated websites.

tbh i hope you all carry on worrying about these blog networks, it means more value for me at the end of the day. Yes, the time may come when they're all redundant, but there will be similar services in their place that are niche specific and tighter regulations.

Retsek, please provide some form of proof that ALL of your sites that rely on them got hit. I'm willing to bet some money that you're overreacting to a degree at least.

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GGpaul

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

Everything is circumstantial and people can't seem to see past this, because they're so jaded by these scare tactics that they put 1 and 1 together and get 9. I have websites, ones that i don't particularly care about, that rely solely on BMR and NONE of them have been hit.

I also have sites that rely on both BMR and other forms of backlinks that have not been hit either. The only drop i've seen recently was one of my websites ranking for a local term - which was due to the update Google introduced relating to local orientated websites.

tbh i hope you all carry on worrying about these blog networks, it means more value for me at the end of the day. Yes, the time may come when they're all redundant, but there will be similar services in their place that are niche specific and tighter regulations.

Retsek, please provide some form of proof that ALL of your sites that rely on them got hit. I'm willing to bet some money that you're overreacting to a degree at least.

Thank you thank you thank you THANK YOU.

One of my keywords for my site SOLEY on BMR is now ranked 1. I just hit it YESTERDAY that was rank 2 for a couple days and was rank 6 for weeks.

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retsek

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

Retsek, please provide some form of proof that ALL of your sites that rely on them got hit. I'm willing to bet some money that you're overreacting to a degree at least.

Why don't you provide some form of proof that none of your sites were affected. :rolleyes:

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boxoun

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MaverickUK

Everything is circumstantial and people can't seem to see past this, because they're so jaded by these scare tactics that they put 1 and 1 together and get 9. I have websites, ones that i don't particularly care about, that rely solely on BMR and NONE of them have been hit.

I also have sites that rely on both BMR and other forms of backlinks that have not been hit either. The only drop i've seen recently was one of my websites ranking for a local term - which was due to the update Google introduced relating to local orientated websites.

tbh i hope you all carry on worrying about these blog networks, it means more value for me at the end of the day. Yes, the time may come when they're all redundant, but there will be similar services in their place that are niche specific and tighter regulations.

Retsek, please provide some form of proof that ALL of your sites that rely on them got hit. I'm willing to bet some money that you're overreacting to a degree at least.

You are neglecting the fact that google may have missed you site. You act like that is not a logical option that could be happening but you act like you have the strategies set in stone. All you did was get lucky to not get hit. Get off your high horse.

I have sites that are still number 1 using all "spammy tactices" but that does not mean spammy tactics are not vulnerable to get spanked. I simply got lucky and if that is not the answer, there is not enough evidence to stick my chest out and pretend I know what I'm doing in a game that changes daily.

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mosthost

12 years ago

Originally Posted by boxoun

You are neglecting the fact that google may have missed you site. You act like that is not a logical option that could be happening but you act like you have the strategies set in stone. All you did was get lucky to not get hit. Get off your high horse.

I have sites that are still number 1 using all "spammy tactices" but that does not mean spammy tactics are not vulnerable to get spanked. I simply got lucky and if that is not the answer, there is not enough evidence to stick my chest out and pretend I know what I'm doing in a game that changes daily.

This is very true. It's so common for 'webmasters' to bash others when in reality, their time will dawn soon enough.

Even so-called white hat tactics are not immune to penalties. The game has changed and the tactics need to evolve to keep up. That said, bashing someone else for a mistake is bad form.

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CombatMode

12 years ago

Its only because most of the blog networks use badly spun content and contain all single page blogs with that default wordpress first post not deleted. Its easy for google to follow footprints.

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mrmatt

12 years ago

Does anyone know which networks have been shut down or got G smacked?

I've seen other members mentioning this is happening but no one says which ones they are.

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mrmatt

12 years ago

Does anyone know which networks have been hit?

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JSProjects

12 years ago

A lot of them are temporarily closing while they figure out what to do about the recent Google changes.

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Mark Hoffman

12 years ago

Yikes better join while you still can

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discuss4u

12 years ago

I also got the email from highprsociety. Hope that the blogs of it will not be affected.

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MikaJanah

12 years ago

OH NO! This ain't good. Big G is getting greedy..

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MikaJanah

12 years ago

OH No! This ain't good. Big G is getting greedy this time.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

People,people,people. Easy attacking each other. the reality is that you can both be right. It is VERY rare for Google to take down an entire large network in one shot. So is it possible that some sites get hit and some people see a drop and some not?

ITS NOT ONLY POSSIBLE ITS LIKELY - Its the nature of how networks get deindexed.

So bottom line if you think sites for the service you have been using may have been hit then watch it. If you haven't then by all means chug a lug onward.

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retsek

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

People,people,people. Easy attacking each other. the reality is that you can both be right. It is VERY rare for Google to take down an entire large network in one shot. So is it possible that some sites get hit and some people see a drop and some not?

ITS NOT ONLY POSSIBLE ITS LIKELY - Its the nature of how networks get deindexed.

So bottom line if you think sites for the service you have been using may have been hit then watch it. If you haven't then by all means chug a lug onward.

exactly what any normal person would conclude from my first post, but Maverick seems to have a stick up his ass. That or he can't read and comprehend.

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MaverickUK 12 years ago

Originally Posted by retsek

exactly what any normal person would conclude from my first post, but Maverick seems to have a stick up his ass. That or he can't read and comprehend.

U mad bro? Your sites are the ones that are getting owned, not mine.

You didn't seem to comprehend the point I was trying to make, at NO POINT did I say that these networks aren't getting sites deindexed, I know for a matter of a fact that some of the top networks are getting sites deindexed - but you know what, this has been the case for years. Nothing new here.

Blog networks aren't going to be entirely deindexed, only the crappy ones that offer nothing to the web and leave obvious and rediculous footprints. There is a small chance that your sites were affected because they, their backlinking methods and content suck - though there is a small chance it's because services like BMR are getting owned by Google - I know which I'm more likely to believe.

Pay specific attention to the part where I say services LIKE BMR, not the crappy ones like ALN.

Truth is, a LOT of people are blaming the dance, sandbox, penalties or other random fluctuations on these blog networks. There is so much speculation that it's unreal - speculation is needed in order to keep Google on their toes, but people making conclusions based on unfounded rumours or evidence is becoming obsured.
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- Mike Anthony 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MaverickUK
  
  U mad bro? Your sites are the ones that are getting owned, not mine.
  
  That kind of taunting has no useful purpose. Frankly there are people who blame techniques and companies and then there are those who are in denial about things. No one who is involved in building or operating networks is saying what you are saying - that there is nothing new here. Yes sites have been deindexed in the past but that by no means equates to this is just old news. February DOES seem to indicate some new offensive by Google.
  
  Is it likely with all the domains getting deindexed that two widely known networks closes their door to new members with no connection to the wide spread reports of deindexing in the last few weeks?
  
  Whenever these discussions break out there is always some people like chicken little saying the end is near and the sky is falling and then there are those who play ostrich and stick their heads in the sand. None is better than the other. MY goodness you still have people out there that in that vein swear forum and profile link blasting is just fine and dandy and nothing much has changed - just get more links!
  
  So lets quit the taunting and acting like because this person or that is not affected the other has no point and shouldn't be believed. This is a fluid situation but there is little doubt that some services have found themselves deindexed so there no telling what is what at this point.
  
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boxoun

12 years ago

From my newbie understanding, blog networks are setup in a way where they are sectioned out. Some accounts may be tied to certain sectors. Even if that is not the case, for people to act all snobby because they didn't get touched is a joke. Give me a break. Get over yourself. Let's have discussion about data and how to move forward with best practices. Nobody cares if you are ranked #1 unless you want to share specific strategies on how and why you got there. Saying you solely used bmr means nothing to me.

With thay said...I heard seolinkmonster got killed pretty bad. Killed as in all the links they acquired from beta testing are no longer indexed. Zero, zip, nada.

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GGpaul

12 years ago

Okay on February 19th I did a track record of my sites

Today February 29th I did another track record. Same order (you can see the beginning of the letter)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...7/22292012.jpg

Notice the difference after 10 days?
Some of the keywords were pushed back into the higher rankings and that's because I wasn't pushing those keywords at all the past week. And then you see some keywords that weren't even ranked, are now ranked, and the one that was ranked 6 is now ranked 1.
Also - this is strictly STRICTLY STRICTLY using BMR.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...pboi37/BMR.jpg

BMR is still working for me =).

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nik0 Banned 12 years ago

It starts to become a hype that when your site is losing rankings that we blame the private blog networks automatically. The networks still work very well for me and none of my sites dropped. That highPRsociety closed for new members is only a good thing, especially for me as a service provider where high PR society plays a large role, though I've added 4 other networks to my services to vary it up.
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RayW

12 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Okay on February 19th I did a track record of my sites

Today February 29th I did another track record. Same order (you can see the beginning of the letter)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...7/22292012.jpg

Notice the difference after 10 days?
Some of the keywords were pushed back into the higher rankings and that's because I wasn't pushing those keywords at all the past week. And then you see some keywords that weren't even ranked, are now ranked, and the one that was ranked 6 is now ranked 1.
Also - this is strictly STRICTLY STRICTLY using BMR.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...pboi37/BMR.jpg

BMR is still working for me =).

Do you vary the anchor text of the links? If so, how much/how often?

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RayW

12 years ago

Wouldn't it be better to just buy a few high PR domains, host them different class C IPs and use them to provide linkjuice to your sites instead of relying on another blog network? Or can Google see through that as well?

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Traffic Master

Banned 12 years ago

Man, thats a big shame.

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GGpaul

12 years ago

Yes I do. 70 percent actual keyword 30 percent variation. I post 4-6 a day. Some days I don't post at all. Usually on the weekends are the days I queue up a lot of posts.

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RayW

12 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Yes I do. 70 percent actual keyword 30 percent variation. I post 4-6 a day. Some days I don't post at all. Usually on the weekends are the days I queue up a lot of posts.

Do you also link to deeper pages or just the homepage?

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GGpaul 12 years ago

Originally Posted by RayW

Do you also link to deeper pages or just the homepage?

Sorry for the late response I was at Disneyland, what a massacre. Leap year special. Anyways, I link everything except for the about , contact, and privacy .
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GGpaul

12 years ago

I have about 10 or so pages with different topics as you can see from the rank tracker (I didn't include all keywords). Those were all from the same site.

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GGpaul

12 years ago

Wait - do a lot of you who do BMR or any type of private network only backlink the homepage?!

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outwest

12 years ago

I think 70% anchor text to the kw is good, however
In the future google might see that as spamming

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GGpaul

12 years ago

Originally Posted by outwest

I think 70% anchor text to the kw is good, however
In the future google might see that as spamming

So what would you suggest? 60 40? 50/50? Or whenever I post 8-10 a day that they all be different?

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RayW

12 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

So what would you suggest? 60 40? 50/50? Or whenever I post 8-10 a day that they all be different?

No I think 60-70% is ideal.

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Wait - do a lot of you who do BMR or any type of private network only backlink the homepage?!

Well, I do, but one of my sites got sandboxed so I guess I should start linking inner pages too. Approximately what % of your posts link to inner pages?

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GGpaul

12 years ago

Originally Posted by RayW

No I think 60-70% is ideal.

Well, I do, but one of my sites got sandboxed so I guess I should start linking inner pages too. Approximately what % of your posts link to inner pages?

I actually spread it out almost evenly. Maybe a bit more on a particular keyword that's close to ranking on the first page/rank 1.

My main keyword is way in the back but it's inner pages are ranking lol.

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RayW 12 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

My main keyword is way in the back but it's inner pages are ranking lol.

What's the level of competition of keyword? # of results with quotes? allintitle:"main keyword" results?
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AfteraDream

12 years ago

There is difference between network closing and closing for new members... why people start panicking and running around like chicken without heads... calm down.

It may not be your Blog networks fault. There are too many moving parts in SEO!

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HKSEO Extropy

12 years ago

Originally Posted by AfteraDream

There is difference between network closing and closing for new members... why people start panicking and running around like chicken without heads... calm down.

It may not be your Blog networks fault. There are too many moving parts in SEO!

Exactly.

We're just closing HPS to protect the current members. Several networks have gotten nuked and it doesn't do anyone any good if it happens to us. Should the landscape change we may open it back up, but there are no plans for that at this point.

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landry08

12 years ago

HighSociety is a great service and they are doing it right by protecting their customers and the network. Rankjumpers has also taken good steps to protect their network and is very picky who they let join. not sure what is going on with bmr and how they plan to recover??

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nik0

Banned 12 years ago

At first I was a bit skeptical about closing and not providing link reports anymore, now after some thought and explanations I see it as a huge privilege to be part of the network and will it only benefit me hugely in the near future.

My seo services also contain links from high PR society and it's nice to be able to offer my clients something exclusive.

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HKSEO Rotzee

12 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

At first I was a bit skeptical about closing and not providing link reports anymore, now after some thought and explanations I see it as a huge privilege to be part of the network and will it only benefit me hugely in the near future.

My seo services also contain links from high PR society and it's nice to be able to offer my clients something exclusive.

Yes, a few people were a little shocked at first, but most have come to realize it is for the best. Everybody else has been wanting it like this from the beginning so a lot of people are actually really happy about it.

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HKSEO Rotzee

12 years ago

Originally Posted by landry08

HighSociety is a great service and they are doing it right by protecting their customers and the network. Rankjumpers has also taken good steps to protect their network and is very picky who they let join. not sure what is going on with bmr and how they plan to recover??

Thanks brother, we appreciate the support! It sounds like BMR was planning to close their doors already and it just happened to happen at the same time as some de indexing of their sites happened (De-indexing they were expecting and prepared for according to them)

So I don't think there is anything they need to recover from, just some bad luck on timing.

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TopBackBuilder

12 years ago

It's obviously a looming threat, but I wouldn't hold my breath on this one.

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HKSEO Rotzee

12 years ago

We don't know exactly who, we know something is going on. I personally, spoke a little too soon on a particular PR network I thought got smacked. I wan't even talking trash about them I just mentioned what I thought was common knowledge and then after talking with the owner, it appears to be a really bad coincidence.

I know its happening, but we can only speak for ourselves...so far we haven't got hit and we are closing our doors to new customers and taking the necessary steps to protect our current customers while we all figure this out.

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GGpaul

12 years ago

8,300,000.

This keyword was number 2 back in August for like a couple of days. It was on page 1 for a long time toggling from rank 5-7. And then it was flagged from the algo that happened late January/early February. Now it's on page 4.

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JGalves

12 years ago

This is about high pr society right? Are they going to be impacted? I have a few money site backlinks from them.

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HKSEO Rotzee 12 years ago

Originally Posted by JGalves

This is about high pr society right? Are they going to be impacted? I have a few money site backlinks from them.

We have not been impacted and we have added extra security to our network to keep it safe and secure.
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jxuereb

12 years ago

HKSEO Rotzee,

I have been subscribed to High PR Society for a few months. However my credit card expired recently and in view of this I am no longer being re-billed.

I tried to change the credit card details in the "Edit Billing Info & Subscription" page, however both the "Pay With PayPal" option and the "Pay With Credit Card" option are disabled. I did contact your support about this but they have been unable to help.

If possible I would like to change my subscription to pay with PayPal.

Please advise.

Thanks,

James.

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HKSEO Rotzee

12 years ago

Originally Posted by jxuereb

HKSEO Rotzee,

I have been subscribed to High PR Society for a few months. However my credit card expired recently and in view of this I am no longer being re-billed.

I tried to change the credit card details in the "Edit Billing Info & Subscription" page, however both the "Pay With PayPal" option and the "Pay With Credit Card" option are disabled. I did contact your support about this but they have been unable to help.

If possible I would like to change my subscription to pay with PayPal.

Please advise.

Thanks,

James.

First, we have a forum for HKSEO customers here where you can get help, share ideas and tips on using HKESO Tools

HKSEO Forums

Second, I would need your ticket number so I can get all the info and see whats going back and forth. PM me the info and I will look into it, thanks

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jxuereb

12 years ago

Originally Posted by HKSEO Rotzee

First, we have a forum for HKSEO customers here where you can get help, share ideas and tips on using HKESO Tools

HKSEO Forums

Second, I would need your ticket number so I can get all the info and see whats going back and forth. PM me the info and I will look into it, thanks

PM with requested information sent.

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HKSEO Rotzee 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jxuereb

PM with requested information sent.

Thanks, I responded
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