Link Authority Versus Build My Rank - Any Thoughts?

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Hi Guys,

I am currently with BMR and the results have been good so far.

What I'm wondering is...

How good is Link Authority by comparison?

I'd love to be able to ditch my monthly subscription and just buy a few high PR domains like I did for ALN.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

Cheers,

Kenneth
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  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    The main potential issue with Link Authority (and all other blog networks that allow people to add their site in) is that Link Authority have no real control over the sites.

    They can be deleted at any stage.

    On the plus side, as Link Authority is new, it means your articles should stay on the home page for longer.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenneth L
      Originally Posted by whitehalls View Post

      What's the URL for Link Authority, it doesn't come up in Google
      Here's the link:

      High Quality One Way Backlinks Service - LinkAuthority.com

      - Kenneth
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    • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
      Originally Posted by UMS View Post

      The main potential issue with Link Authority (and all other blog networks that allow people to add their site in) is that Link Authority have no real control over the sites.

      They can be deleted at any stage.

      On the plus side, as Link Authority is new, it means your articles should stay on the home page for longer.
      I think we have a lot more control then other networks as we

      1) We only accept sites that provide editor access therefore we have a little more flexibility
      2) Our moderation for sites is quite tough and we reject a whole bunch daily not only when they do not meet our requirements but also if we think they are the type of user who would just delete things.
      3) If we see any users deleting posts we will just delete every single one of their published posts - Its very easy for us to do with editor rights

      Yes you will always get the odd character deciding to remove posts or not paying for hosting or not renewing their domains - But this is a natural part of link building whether you are using a network or not.

      We do also mention in our FAQ if a post has been deleted you can just wait for Google to deindex that post and then resubmit it to us again.

      On top of this currently only 40% of the network is user contributions the rest is ours - We are aiming for a 50/50 hybrid network
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      • Profile picture of the author Ashera
        Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac View Post

        I think we have a lot more control then other networks as we

        1) We only accept sites that provide editor access therefore we have a little more flexibility
        2) Our moderation for sites is quite tough and we reject a whole bunch daily not only when they do not meet our requirements but also if we think they are the type of user who would just delete things.
        3) If we see any users deleting posts we will just delete every single one of their published posts - Its very easy for us to do with editor rights

        Yes you will always get the odd character deciding to remove posts or not paying for hosting or not renewing their domains - But this is a natural part of link building whether you are using a network or not.

        We do also mention in our FAQ if a post has been deleted you can just wait for Google to deindex that post and then resubmit it to us again.

        On top of this currently only 40% of the network is user contributions the rest is ours - We are aiming for a 50/50 hybrid network
        I love LinkAuthority, I've seen good results in the SERPS, and you guys are quick with moderation and strict on posts- it's obvious that you care about the quality of the network when you make me correct minor formatting errors that I don't even notice. I've even had some original articles rejected because they are too "salespitchy." You guys have my +1.
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      • Profile picture of the author AskJon
        Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac View Post

        I think we have a lot more control then other networks as we

        1) We only accept sites that provide editor access therefore we have a little more flexibility
        2) Our moderation for sites is quite tough and we reject a whole bunch daily not only when they do not meet our requirements but also if we think they are the type of user who would just delete things.
        3) If we see any users deleting posts we will just delete every single one of their published posts - Its very easy for us to do with editor rights

        Yes you will always get the odd character deciding to remove posts or not paying for hosting or not renewing their domains - But this is a natural part of link building whether you are using a network or not.

        We do also mention in our FAQ if a post has been deleted you can just wait for Google to deindex that post and then resubmit it to us again.

        On top of this currently only 40% of the network is user contributions the rest is ours - We are aiming for a 50/50 hybrid network
        Great answer! I'm not using LA atm but From what I can see it might be a good choice slightly better than ALN and if they care that much about quality I'm almost sold! BMR still stay the best quality so I wouldn't switch 100% but definitely try LA on a few sites or use it to complement your BMR backlinks!
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        • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
          Originally Posted by AskJon View Post

          Great answer! I'm not using LA atm but From what I can see it might be a good choice slightly better than ALN and if they care that much about quality I'm almost sold! BMR still stay the best quality so I wouldn't switch 100% but definitely try LA on a few sites or use it to complement your BMR backlinks!
          Thanks man ye I don't think giving up BMR is a good thing - using both BMR and LA work great together
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          • Profile picture of the author neil_patmore
            What's stopping your article ranks blog owners adding their same sites to the link authority network Musa? Wouldn't this be counterproductive to what you're trying to achieve with Link Authority? Afterall this might mean the AR footprints will be detectable on the Link Authority network?
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            • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
              Originally Posted by neil_patmore View Post

              What's stopping your article ranks blog owners adding their same sites to the link authority network Musa? Wouldn't this be counterproductive to what you're trying to achieve with Link Authority? Afterall this might mean the AR footprints will be detectable on the Link Authority network?
              We moderate all sites added and any sites with spun or duplicate content get rejected.

              So articleranks users cannot add the same site to LA as it will just get rejected
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              • Profile picture of the author sandra98
                Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac View Post

                We moderate all sites added and any sites with spun or duplicate content get rejected.

                So articleranks users cannot add the same site to LA as it will just get rejected
                Musa - how would you track this? Someone can submit a blog with good content and it gets accepted. After a month, the blog owner starts accepting poorly spun content from elsewhere. How do you detect that?

                If you wait for Google to do its job and lower the sites PR or even deindex the site so they will be out of your network, that seems too long. Meantime, all those links built to those sites would be wasted.

                Plus who knows what the impact is to have backlinks coming from "bad" sites.

                I've read some of your posts in this forum and they are very good. All these Google updates and endless upcoming ones worries me. Thanks.
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                • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
                  Originally Posted by sandra98 View Post

                  Musa - how would you track this? Someone can submit a blog with good content and it gets accepted. After a month, the blog owner starts accepting poorly spun content from elsewhere. How do you detect that?

                  If you wait for Google to do its job and lower the sites PR or even deindex the site so they will be out of your network, that seems too long. Meantime, all those links built to those sites would be wasted.

                  Plus who knows what the impact is to have backlinks coming from "bad" sites.

                  I've read some of your posts in this forum and they are very good. All these Google updates and endless upcoming ones worries me. Thanks.
                  There are a few ways we stop this from being abused

                  1) A high percentage of users would not do it anyway as they know our terms and know the consequences
                  2) We daily click and check published URLs to make sure people are not doing it - These spot checks seem to be working well so far
                  3) We also have very good rates of users spotting things so that contribution is always recommended
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                  • Profile picture of the author sandra98
                    Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac View Post

                    There are a few ways we stop this from being abused

                    1) A high percentage of users would not do it anyway as they know our terms and know the consequences
                    2) We daily click and check published URLs to make sure people are not doing it - These spot checks seem to be working well so far
                    3) We also have very good rates of users spotting things so that contribution is always recommended
                    Thank you, please keep your high standards.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                      Musa as an often critic of how networks are setup I wanted to say that I like a lot of the things you are doing with yours in trying to achieve quality. Won't ever be perfect but good for you.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
                        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                        Musa as an often critic of how networks are setup I wanted to say that I like a lot of the things you are doing with yours in trying to achieve quality. Won't ever be perfect but good for you.
                        Thanks man
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              • Profile picture of the author neil_patmore
                Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac View Post

                We moderate all sites added and any sites with spun or duplicate content get rejected.

                So articleranks users cannot add the same site to LA as it will just get rejected
                How long have you been doing this for? I added all of my AR sites with no problem a few weeks back. I deleted them when you didn't accept my Vitavee spun articles as this wasn't a viable option for my business plan.

                But before I deleted them You even posted a few articles to my sites.
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                • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
                  Originally Posted by neil_patmore View Post

                  How long have you been doing this for? I added all of my AR sites with no problem a few weeks back. I deleted them when you didn't accept my Vitavee spun articles as this wasn't a viable option for my business plan.

                  But before I deleted them You even posted a few articles to my sites.
                  There is no way we would accept a site with spun content unless

                  This could of happened in the first 1-2 weeks when we launched as we never had any site moderation in place and people were abusing it. E.G As you mentioned yourself

                  We implemented site moderation and cleaned up any sites that were added which were like this and have had site moderation in place for a couple of months now :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by AskJon View Post

          Great answer! I'm not using LA atm but From what I can see it might be a good choice slightly better than ALN and if they care that much about quality I'm almost sold! BMR still stay the best quality so I wouldn't switch 100% but definitely try LA on a few sites or use it to complement your BMR backlinks!
          Jon, LinkAuthority is a completely different ball game than ALN. Unique vs Spun/Posts staying on home page longer/Quality content only
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    • Profile picture of the author rosesmark
      Originally Posted by whitehalls View Post

      What's the URL for Link Authority, it doesn't come up in Google
      Authority' for a website is gained by a webpage through quality incoming links. This is for instance expressed in the PageRank given by Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author neil_patmore
    This could of happened in the first 1-2 weeks when we launched as we never had any site moderation in place and people were abusing it. E.G As you mentioned yourself
    Yes it was in the first 1-2 weeks. But how many of these sites still exist I wonder?
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    • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
      Originally Posted by neil_patmore View Post

      Yes it was in the first 1-2 weeks. But how many of these sites still exist I wonder?
      None of them exist.. The whole network was put into moderation when we implemented site moderation

      So each one was moderated
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  • Profile picture of the author neil_patmore
    I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
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    • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
      Originally Posted by neil_patmore View Post

      I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
      No problem :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author tchandler50
    does anyone know when BMR is supposed to allow new subscriptions again?
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  • Profile picture of the author jtooder
    Anyones guess but subscriptions will be dropping fast give they no longer do homepage links.

    Hope that means new subscriptions will open. If so, I am in.

    JT
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      They're doing the home page links again. That whole fiasco lasted 2 hours.
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      • Profile picture of the author orebian
        BMR still works fine. However, they have gotten quite strict lately. Has anyone seen results using LinkAuthority?
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  • Profile picture of the author Berkinb
    Seems that this question is obsolete for the moment as sadly all posts in BMR seem to have disappeared from the face of the Earth (or from Google's index, which is pretty much the same thing).
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    BMR is done, so LA wins by default.

    I wouldn't invest my time into any such public network though. Since Google are clearly taking manual action against networks, there's no way for them to hide. I know some people who lost 100/200 site networks overnight (were selling them openly). That's not an algorithm.
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    I think the 100% deindexing rate puts BMR at a disadvantage now.

    It might be safer to 'make your website better' these days LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
    One more vote for Link Authority! I moved over to LA 3 months ago and glad I made that decision, plus I will be saving over $500/year (compared to BMR) as I plugged 6 domains with PR into the system!
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  • Profile picture of the author orebian
    How good is Link Authority? Anyone here experienced +ve results? Please share.
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  • Profile picture of the author ThatAblaze
    Link Authority is a pain in the..

    It's a constant game of cat and mouse with the moderators. In order to get approved around there you have to track all your submissions based on time of day and day of week. Submit them at the wrong time and you hit the dreaded "too promotional" mods that just reject everything.

    I know it sounds ridiculous, but I've shown some rejected posts to college professors and they can't see any problem with them. Every post on LA is like pulling teeth.
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    • Profile picture of the author cavacuchi
      Originally Posted by ThatAblaze View Post

      Link Authority is a pain in the..

      It's a constant game of cat and mouse with the moderators. In order to get approved around there you have to track all your submissions based on time of day and day of week. Submit them at the wrong time and you hit the dreaded "too promotional" mods that just reject everything.

      I know it sounds ridiculous, but I've shown some rejected posts to college professors and they can't see any problem with them. Every post on LA is like pulling teeth.
      I couldn't agree more.

      The article moderation is so extreme that Link Authority is not a scalable solution.

      I did a little experiment and submitted some high level articles (college worthy material) and they were rejected.

      You also have to consider the cost of using the network. 50 submissions/day will run you $400 per month.

      At that level of expense you could simply build your own network.

      To make matters worse, they'll simply delete your article if they feel you haven't revised it enough upon re-submission. I've had this happen to me multiple times.

      Just not worth it.
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      • Profile picture of the author ThatAblaze
        The practice of randomly deleting articles is the worst part. If I'm going to spend 20 minutes on each article hunting down every little error in the hopes that maybe this one will get through, and then I'm told something vague like "does not read well" I want to at least retrieve a copy of the article I have been sweating over so I can post it on my own blog or something.

        The moderators treat their user base like sheep that need a taste of the whip three times a day or they'll get out of line. If they actually cared one bit about users they would allow a dialog. I find that half the time when a post is rejected it is because the moderator couldn't understand the terms I was using.

        Their own staff couldn't pass their moderation if they weren't given a free pass. I keep seeing badly written posts all over their network when the college style posts I write keep getting rejected. Responses to support tickets are never well written. Where do all those crap posts come from? I'm wagering they are from their "trusted" staff.

        I keep getting the feeling that LA is one big practical joke on its users.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by ThatAblaze View Post

      Link Authority is a pain in the..

      It's a constant game of cat and mouse with the moderators. In order to get approved around there you have to track all your submissions based on time of day and day of week. Submit them at the wrong time and you hit the dreaded "too promotional" mods that just reject everything.

      I know it sounds ridiculous, but I've shown some rejected posts to college professors and they can't see any problem with them. Every post on LA is like pulling teeth.
      So true, I've literally copy pasted snippets from some of my old university essays only to have them rejected because they "did not make sense."

      Perhaps they need some college educated moderators on the team.
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      • Originally Posted by anteck View Post

        Musa it is clear your moderators don't understand complex or colloquial usage of the english language. I've had to 'dumb down' certain phrases so my posts actually get through.

        IMHO you're moderators are being way to over the top.

        Deleting my post that i've taken 10 minutes to write because your moderators can't understand the phrasing isn't an acceptable option.

        It would seem your moderators don't actually use english as their first language. Would this assumption be correct?
        Hi - I'm replying to this as I head up LA's moderation team. Firstly let me assure you that every moderator on the team speaks English as their first language (the majority are UK/US based) and rejection is primarily based on 'readability' and not the choice of words you put into articles.

        BUT we will admit to having checked through some rejected articles and there were some issues - a certain moderator was rejecting when they shouldn't have and that moderator has now left the team - as of today!

        My advice to getting your articles approved is to ensure it makes sense and is generally error-free (minor errors are not a big deal)

        If you have an example of an article that was rejected I'd be happy to point out the exact reasoning behind it and hopefully will enable you to get your future articles approved

        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        So true, I've literally copy pasted snippets from some of my old university essays only to have them rejected because they "did not make sense."

        Perhaps they need some college educated moderators on the team.
        And - as above - if you'd like me to review any articles then just let me know and I'll try to explain further for you
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by Original Content Services View Post

          Hi - I'm replying to this as I head up LA's moderation team. Firstly let me assure you that every moderator on the team speaks English as their first language (the majority are UK/US based) and rejection is primarily based on 'readability' and not the choice of words you put into articles.

          BUT we will admit to having checked through some rejected articles and there were some issues - a certain moderator was rejecting when they shouldn't have and that moderator has now left the team - as of today!

          My advice to getting your articles approved is to ensure it makes sense and is generally error-free (minor errors are not a big deal)

          If you have an example of an article that was rejected I'd be happy to point out the exact reasoning behind it and hopefully will enable you to get your future articles approved



          And - as above - if you'd like me to review any articles then just let me know and I'll try to explain further for you
          All the ones that were rejected were deleted from your system after being rejected twice - even though they made perfect sense and would have been published in any scholarly journal.

          I have just "dumbed down" my articles now as another poster said.
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          • Profile picture of the author Technologize
            I just had two articles rejected for the following phrases:

            "Under the wife's thumb" - colloquial usage, over 4000 exact match results in google.

            "First off the Bat" - over 1 million exact match results in google.

            It's ridiculous. If they keep doing this i'll leave. Not worth the hassle.

            & they admit bad moderators, yet the keep the policy that if things are rejected twice, they'll delete them. I'd recommend everyone SAVE their content locally, because LA don't care what happens to it.
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            • Originally Posted by anteck View Post

              I just had two articles rejected for the following phrases:

              "Under the wife's thumb" - colloquial usage, over 4000 exact match results in google.

              "First off the Bat" - over 1 million exact match results in google.

              It's ridiculous. If they keep doing this i'll leave. Not worth the hassle.

              & they admit bad moderators, yet the keep the policy that if things are rejected twice, they'll delete them. I'd recommend everyone SAVE their content locally, because LA don't care what happens to it.
              I am not even going to go into detail as to what you threatened us to do with users published posts. But I'm sure they would be very unhappy with you and want us to kick you out.

              Yes, when you post your above examples they make sense, but we declined the whole sentence as it does not read well, the context it was used in was bad.

              You are just picking bits out of the sentence to make us look daft

              We are not going to change our policies because we are doing nothing wrong, we are trying to create a network with real value and quality and if being a little strict on moderation helps that then so be it. In this case the rejections were justified.
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              • Profile picture of the author Technologize
                For the record, i stated i would take my sites off the network, and delete the posts, because LA is such a pain in the a..e to use that i would move onto something else. They took this as a threat and harped on about how they want a 'trusted network', and how my 'threats' arn't the type of attitude they want from people. I stated it wasn't a threat, as anyone would simply move on from frustration.

                That wasn't the best way to demonstrate how annoyed i am at continually having to adjust my posts, with uncertainty as to exactly what they want. In respect to the few posts that have appeared on my submitted site, i'll leave them.

                But it's clear the moderators are not getting what we are trying to explain to them. They'll reject anything that isn't written like... a magazine? I'm still not sure what they're after. I don't see a problem with what i wrote, yet they do. I contacted support, and they just don't budge. I tried to explain that this kind of moderation only hurts their network, and creates distrust, but they don't get it.



                Take heed people. These guys are difficult, and they don't make it clear exactly what they want. I give up trying to explain it to them, and i'm tired of wasting time trying to appeal whatever literally taste they are after.
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                • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
                  Originally Posted by anteck View Post

                  Take heed people. These guys are difficult, and they don't make it clear exactly what they want. I give up trying to explain it to them, and i'm tired of wasting time trying to appeal whatever literally taste they are after.
                  It is not "literally taste" but "literary taste". Rejected! Please correct the word usage.. lol
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                  • Profile picture of the author Technologize
                    Originally Posted by IM Ash View Post

                    It is not "literally taste" but "literary taste". Rejected! Please correct the word usage.. lol
                    Oh Dear!

                    "Literary Taste". Please approve my comment now, please!
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  • Profile picture of the author neil_patmore
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    LA is a very good network and i would love to use it more, but it's a given that many foolish sheep will go over to link authority now that BMR is gone.

    And LA will see the same faith as BMR within days/weeks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
      Originally Posted by cavacuchi View Post

      I couldn't agree more.

      The article moderation is so extreme that Link Authority is not a scalable solution.

      I did a little experiment and submitted some high level articles (college worthy material) and they were rejected.

      You also have to consider the cost of using the network. 50 submissions/day will run you $400 per month.

      At that level of expense you could simply build your own network.

      To make matters worse, they'll simply delete your article if they feel you haven't revised it enough upon re-submission. I've had this happen to me multiple times.

      Just not worth it.
      If you think you can build a strong network for $400 per month then be my guest.. Also please share so we all know

      It doesn't matter if content is "intellectually" college degree - We care about the use of the English language

      You could write about quantum mechanics, but if it was written using poor grammar it would be rejected

      Originally Posted by ThatAblaze View Post

      The practice of randomly deleting articles is the worst part. If I'm going to spend 20 minutes on each article hunting down every little error in the hopes that maybe this one will get through, and then I'm told something vague like "does not read well" I want to at least retrieve a copy of the article I have been sweating over so I can post it on my own blog or something.

      The moderators treat their user base like sheep that need a taste of the whip three times a day or they'll get out of line. If they actually cared one bit about users they would allow a dialog. I find that half the time when a post is rejected it is because the moderator couldn't understand the terms I was using.

      Their own staff couldn't pass their moderation if they weren't given a free pass. I keep seeing badly written posts all over their network when the college style posts I write keep getting rejected. Responses to support tickets are never well written. Where do all those crap posts come from? I'm wagering they are from their "trusted" staff.

      I keep getting the feeling that LA is one big practical joke on its users.
      For both of you we do not randomly delete articles, we have a 2 reject rule - If you are still submitting it to us with errors after 2 rejections then it will get deleted. We are not going to spend all day moderating the same content

      2 rejections is way more then enough - Even if we made a mistake on the first rejection then I highly doubt we would do it again a second or third time around.

      I highly doubt we treat users like sheep, yes we have rules which must be obey. If we do not enforce them who will?
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      • Profile picture of the author ThatAblaze
        Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac View Post

        If you think you can build a strong network for $400 per month then be my guest.. Also please share so we all know

        It doesn't matter if content is "intellectually" college degree - We care about the use of the English language

        You could write about quantum mechanics, but if it was written using poor grammar it would be rejected



        For both of you we do not randomly delete articles, we have a 2 reject rule - If you are still submitting it to us with errors after 2 rejections then it will get deleted. We are not going to spend all day moderating the same content

        2 rejections is way more then enough - Even if we made a mistake on the first rejection then I highly doubt we would do it again a second or third time around.

        I highly doubt we treat users like sheep, yes we have rules which must be obey. If we do not enforce them who will?
        too promotional. also does not read well in places. please revise your ENTIRE post.
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  • Profile picture of the author des1slav
    LA is a good network, but they have a few bugs. Sometimes your posts will be posted on same site twice.
    Also the directories are the same in each website, that leaves a huge footprint for google to trace.
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    • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
      Originally Posted by des1slav View Post

      LA is a good network, but they have a few bugs. Sometimes your posts will be posted on same site twice.
      Also the directories are the same in each website, that leaves a huge footprint for google to trace.
      Please PM an example of same site twice.. As this was fixed like 5 weeks ago and dupe posts were deleted
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      • Profile picture of the author des1slav
        Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac View Post

        Please PM an example of same site twice.. As this was fixed like 5 weeks ago and dupe posts were deleted
        My regards about this fix. I didn't know about this upgrade.
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  • Profile picture of the author leewii
    i have registered with LA! my problem is what the hell is a Quota

    how is works?

    and

    how to buy?

    if i want to post 10 blogs how much is it?
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  • Profile picture of the author BMNSky
    Hi Musa! With BMR closing down, what are the odds of link authority doing the same thing? The reason I ask is because a big client of mine is a client of yours in LA, and everyone on the web is on a doomsday mood.
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    • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
      Originally Posted by BMNSky View Post

      Hi Musa! With BMR closing down, what are the odds of link authority doing the same thing? The reason I ask is because a big client of mine is a client of yours in LA, and everyone on the web is on a doomsday mood.
      I can't really answer that as no one is 100% sure what is causing the deindexing, we think we know what has caused it on other networks and implemented procedures to reduce it

      But I can't tell you what will happen in future otherwise I would be a billionaire :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author yoshi74
    HI Musa

    I would sure say that posting on the WF with all that has happened to BMR is sure going to put the network in the spotlight for a manual a review that will put paid to it. :-(
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    • Profile picture of the author Technologize
      Musa it is clear your moderators don't understand complex or colloquial usage of the english language. I've had to 'dumb down' certain phrases so my posts actually get through.

      IMHO you're moderators are being way to over the top.

      Deleting my post that i've taken 10 minutes to write because your moderators can't understand the phrasing isn't an acceptable option.

      It would seem your moderators don't actually use english as their first language. Would this assumption be correct?
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  • Profile picture of the author Scrape
    I still prefer ALN. Its kinda new so I have few doubts to the quality of links I 'm getting
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  • I had the same problem. Their WSO thread was closed after the owner, Musa_Ayck (or however you spell it), literally tryed to tell me that "anyone who has a site on the network knows that we only publish about 1 post per day, per site,"

    that is right after I posted a screenshot of my domain with 75 posts made in 8 days. So it is more like 9.375 posts per day, and they were posted in batch of 5 at a time (which means that only two stayed on the homepage until the next batch was posted).

    I really don't even want to start with their crap team of moderators.

    Yes, I did accuse the woman running "Original Content Services," of immoral activity, because she is the head moderator, and also the recommended service (featured on linkauthority when you go to post your content). That is potential for moral hazard, and the fact that everywhere I look 9 out of 10 people say that they have gotten literally NOWHERE with getting their articles published, until they started buying from her.
    ^So you can be the judge there.


    There have been tons of problems with content being rejected because it is "too promotional," So I thought I would show you guys a few exerts from my site that were approved, and you tell me if these are not promotional...


    1) "When people ask me if they should buy (link)Laptops Under 300(/link) dollars, I immediately tell them that it is definitely a good idea."

    2) "If you would really like to lose weight but don’t know where to start, then you should look at the information related to the (link)best diet pills that work.(/link)"

    3) "Once you have bought your vehicle from the (link)Long Island volkswagen(/link) car dealer, "


    Each of those were the FIRST SENTENCE in from the posts that I pulled.


    I think it is imperative that I share my experience with my fellow warriors, because this "linkauthority," was a waste of my time, caused me many headaches, and certainly not worth jeopardizing my PR 3 site for.


    Cheers everyone, have a good day.
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    • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
      Originally Posted by Backtrack Linkback View Post

      I had the same problem. Their WSO thread was closed after the owner, Musa_Ayck (or however you spell it), literally tryed to tell me that "anyone who has a site on the network knows that we only publish about 1 post per day, per site,"

      that is right after I posted a screenshot of my domain with 75 posts made in 8 days. So it is more like 9.375 posts per day, and they were posted in batch of 5 at a time (which means that only two stayed on the homepage until the next batch was posted).

      I really don't even want to start with their crap team of moderators.

      Yes, I did accuse the woman running "Original Content Services," of immoral activity, because she is the head moderator, and also the recommended service (featured on linkauthority when you go to post your content). That is potential for moral hazard, and the fact that everywhere I look 9 out of 10 people say that they have gotten literally NOWHERE with getting their articles published, until they started buying from her.
      ^So you can be the judge there.


      There have been tons of problems with content being rejected because it is "too promotional," So I thought I would show you guys a few exerts from my site that were approved, and you tell me if these are not promotional...


      1) "When people ask me if they should buy (link)Laptops Under 300(/link) dollars, I immediately tell them that it is definitely a good idea."

      2) "If you would really like to lose weight but don't know where to start, then you should look at the information related to the (link)best diet pills that work.(/link)"

      3) "Once you have bought your vehicle from the (link)Long Island volkswagen(/link) car dealer, "


      Each of those were the FIRST SENTENCE in from the posts that I pulled.


      I think it is imperative that I share my experience with my fellow warriors, because this "linkauthority," was a waste of my time, caused me many headaches, and certainly not worth jeopardizing my PR 3 site for.


      Cheers everyone, have a good day.
      The WSO was closed as we requested it to be closed as it was turning into a support thread and our support team work via tickets

      Also please do not post lies about we post so many articles per day on a site when we barely post 1.

      You are clearly here to try and bad mouth us in any way you can and are looking for even the smallest thing, so you can scale it up and use it against us.

      We already told you, your site was broken and you needed to fix it - See ticket below please

      I also find it odd that you offer SEO services to clients but do not have a clue about the smallest of fixes on your own site.

      This is the last reply I am doing in this thread - Below is evidence that we specifically told you and advised you to fix your site. You decided not too and are now blaming us as a network again.

      In the end this applies to everyone in here complaining (2 or 3 users), this is our network, we have spent our money and time not only coding the site but also acquiring sites for the network and we will make the rules, if you are not happy with the rules then we do not force you to use us. If you want to throw money in the bin be my guest, but we will not be doing that.

      The rules are there for a reason and its for the safety of the network, yes some rules maybe a little strict at the moment - But we are not going to take any risks when it comes down to it especially now with all the happenings.

      Regarding the comment above about us not caring about our customers, we very much care about our customers, but the network safety will always come before pleasing customers. All ALN did was please its customers and not try to protect its network, now look whats happened!

      Don't be sour when we reject your articles (its not personal) - Take the criticism and give us what we want, you have come to use us so you can't just make up rules on what suits you best.

      I will not be responding here any more (As I 100% know some of you awkward guys are going to just try and find something else, we are never going to please you), if you need any support please do not hesitate to us via the ticket system

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  • Profile picture of the author ThatAblaze
    I have come to understand that they say "too promotional" and mean "too many keywords" which confused me to no end for a long time since I paid no attention to keywords at all and got a bunch of random rejections.. until I just gave up entirely.

    They obviously don't care about customers or even think of them as customers. Every week they send out an email with new policies that either make it harder to write articles, or reduce the privileges of its members. They treat people like sheep with their carrot and stick approach, except the "carrot" just keeps getting smaller.

    It's like an abusive relationship, "if you leave us we'll delete all your articles." Well that might be a more effective threat if I was able to write very many articles in the first place.

    It's a lot like working for a bad boss, except that I'm not getting a pay check.

    Their last email was almost funny: "Here's the bad news: we're lowering your benefits yet again. Here's the good news: Some things are staying the same." There was no good news. There never is.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lyanna
      Originally Posted by ThatAblaze View Post

      It's like an abusive relationship, "if you leave us we'll delete all your articles."
      Eh? Is it true your posts will get deleted if you leave? I didn't know that. Is this true even if you don't add sites and just buy quota?
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      • Profile picture of the author JDCopper
        I have had problems with moderators rejecting original posts (I wrote them myself) that have no hits of any kind in Copyscape or elsewhere as being "duplicate content."

        After trying twice to rework some of those posts, I finally got a note that said there was already something like that on the network. In other words, it wasn't duplicate from me, it wasn't duplicate across Google or Copyscape, but someone else wrote something similar.

        The worst part is this only happens on the posts I put effort into. Every crap little garbage post I cranked out in five minutes gets accepted. As I look across the posts that I receive on my blog I see that small, barely 200 word crap is apparently the preferred type of article. For whatever it is worth, I did only get on post per day on my blog.

        I'm happy to write new stuff, but I won't rewrite and scrap well written, quality stuff just because someone else wrote something on the same topic.

        Just a note to the mods, duplicate means duplicate, not alike, not similar, not on the same topic. I could even see it if I kept writing on the same topic, but that isn't what is happening.

        I might give it another try once I've built up a garbage folder of junk paragraphs that I can pretend are articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author adriel97
    I haven't tried LA, but I've had success with BMR in the past. Although it looks as if that success will be short lived.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOAffordable
    I can see their side....things must be difficult with the influx of content coming from BMR. Handling it all can't be easy.

    That being said, the entire moderation of LA is a complete and utter joke right now. I get the "too promotional" thing on about 10% or more of my posts. My only issue is that for the main niche I am promoting, it is IMPOSSIBLE to write without mentioning a company name. Think about restaurants for a second as an example even though that's not my niche. If I write an article on Bobby Flay saying he is one of the best cook's in the world and my site sells a salad spinner.....is that really too promotional? I made myself laugh by writing terrible nasty posts about a few people and had each and every one of them accepted on the first submission, but say something nice and you've got a battle on your hands!

    My other main problem is that articles are often rejected for the same reason multiple times, even after the offending sentence or missed period etc has been fixed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ezra Anderson
    Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents here.

    Personally, I think LA is doing a great job at trying to keep their network alive, especially after Google's mass deindexings. Yes, they are pretty strict on the moderation of their articles, but I think that's better than the networks that let anyone post junk articles all over the network.

    Also, I have a website in their network right now, and it only gets 1 post posted on it a day (sometimes less than that). So they really are telling the truth when they say most websites in LA only get 1 post a day. And that really helps keep the networks OBL low.

    And best of all, my site continues to rise in the SERPs.
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    • Profile picture of the author moti101
      Originally Posted by ezzypro View Post

      Also, I have a website in their network right now, and it only gets 1 post posted on it a day (sometimes less than that). So they really are telling the truth when they say most websites in LA only get 1 post a day. And that really helps keep the networks OBL low.
      VERY good to know. Thanks for clarifying
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  • Profile picture of the author Dex88
    Hi guys, I have read almost all the post here, and I have to agree with regards to how strict Linkauthority is as compared to BMR. In all honesty, I too made a lot of adjustments with my writing style so that my articles get accepted in their system.

    Although making your articles neutral so that they won't be too promotional for Linkauthority requires a lot of effort, this type of restriction that they have implemented may work for everyone's advantage. This way, they can ensure that your posts and their websites will not be easily de-indexed by Google... (or at least we can hope).

    While nothing is for certain as to whether or not their rules will indeed help their websites stay afloat, at the very least they try to their best to accept articles that they think Google will approve of.

    Anyway, if you do need help when it comes to articles for Linkauthority, please do check-out my services and leave me a message. Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by Dex88 View Post

      While nothing is for certain as to whether or not their rules will indeed help their websites stay afloat, at the very least they try to their best to accept articles that they think Google will approve of.

      Anyway, if you do need help when it comes to articles for Linkauthority, please do check-out my services and leave me a message. Thanks!
      That's the same thing BMR thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author tonic1987
    I have been writing LA posts for a client for a few weeks now and I am finding the moderation process extremely frustrating.

    I have access to over 600 posts that have been written by myself and some other writers. Based on those posts, this is what you need to do in order to get an article accepted:
    1. Never write a sentence that is longer than 8 words.
    2. Use simple words only. For example, always write 'use', never 'utilize'.
    3. Do not under any circumstances try to link sentences together so that your article reads well.
    4. Do not include any information of real value in your posts.
    5. Constantly repeat yourself.
    6. Try to mix up the tenses at every given opportunity.
    7. Always write in first, second and third person.
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    • Profile picture of the author jordyhill
      Originally Posted by tonic1987 View Post

      I have been writing LA posts for a client for a few weeks now and I am finding the moderation process extremely frustrating.

      I have access to over 600 posts that have been written by myself and some other writers. Based on those posts, this is what you need to do in order to get an article accepted:
      1. Never write a sentence that is longer than 8 words.
      2. Use simple words only. For example, always write 'use', never 'utilize'.
      3. Do not under any circumstances try to link sentences together so that your article reads well.
      4. Do not include any information of real value in your posts.
      5. Constantly repeat yourself.
      6. Try to mix up the tenses at every given opportunity.
      7. Always write in first, second and third person.
      LOL @ ya Tonic1987

      Reading through this thread has not exactly filled me confidence with this network. I welcome a strict approach to content, but its all got a bit silly, really.
      Over zealous mods drunk on power or what?
      If I sign up, and risk a PR2 in the network, I'll follow your advice Tonic
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      • Profile picture of the author heavysm
        My first few submissions needed editing but it really isn't that hard once you get the hang of it.

        Make sure your sentences are simple, nothing too complex or abstract. Never get ranty with your posts. They like paragraphs a lot since it reads well, so never try to publish huge chunks.

        You have to use a lot of synonyms when you write since you might have to rewrite on the same topic several times for multiple posts. I had no problem with "utilize" and "use".

        Just as a note about using your own domains. Don't give them fresh pr domains with zero backlinks. I have tested two fresh zero backlink domains and both were stripped of PR within the first week.

        All the rest of my domains have 500+ backlinks and they seem fine 1 month+ in the system.
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  • Profile picture of the author digitalfirstaid
    I was getting so many articles rejected I bought their 'turnkey' solution.
    The articles were pretty far from turnkey, the titles were not in the format they accept with capital letters at the beginning of each word.
    Worse than that the articles were rubbish, they read very poorly and made absolutely no sense, reading them was like cracking the enigma code at times.

    I began to submit them to the network; Rejected every one of them!
    I complained that the articles they had supplied me with were being rejected, their solution? To make me a 'trusted' member thereby bypassing the moderators and allowing the rubbish articles to be published!

    Eventually they supplied rewrites but I would never buy them again, even after being rewritten they would read very badly and had to be heavily edited to make sense.

    I do check the sites a number of articles are placed on and the quality is getting pretty poor, some of them look like those Indian link farms with lorem ipsum content and literally dozens of links with no text on the page. Obvious PR manipulation as well as one of them was a pr 5!
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    • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
      Originally Posted by digitalfirstaid View Post

      I was getting so many articles rejected I bought their 'turnkey' solution.
      The articles were pretty far from turnkey, the titles were not in the format they accept with capital letters at the beginning of each word.
      Worse than that the articles were rubbish, they read very poorly and made absolutely no sense, reading them was like cracking the enigma code at times.

      I began to submit them to the network; Rejected every one of them!
      I complained that the articles they had supplied me with were being rejected, their solution? To make me a 'trusted' member thereby bypassing the moderators and allowing the rubbish articles to be published!

      Eventually they supplied rewrites but I would never buy them again, even after being rewritten they would read very badly and had to be heavily edited to make sense.

      I do check the sites a number of articles are placed on and the quality is getting pretty poor, some of them look like those Indian link farms with lorem ipsum content and literally dozens of links with no text on the page. Obvious PR manipulation as well as one of them was a pr 5!
      Please PM me the sites you have seen with Lorem ipsum - we manually moderate each sites and no site should be in the network with default data as that is one of our main rejection reasons

      There is no PR manipulation all the PR is valid so please don't chuck accusations like that around as we auto check for fake PR

      Regarding the content we would only add you to the trust list if we deem the content acceptable - which we obviously did not hence the rewrites we did for you. Also I don't know when you ordered but the content was done by a third party provider since then we now use our own team.

      To try to deflate our network like this is a childish, since we are the only network that survived deindexing, penguin and panda so we must be doing something right.

      Blog networks are not the highest quality links out there, if you want that then you need to do guest blogging and spend real time finding real links on real sites - but well kept networks still work well and have their place and increase rankings superbly when used correctly
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      • Profile picture of the author digitalfirstaid
        Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac View Post

        Please PM me the sites you have seen with Lorem ipsum - we manually moderate each sites and no site should be in the network with default data as that is one of our main rejection reasons

        There is no PR manipulation all the PR is valid so please don't chuck accusations like that around as we auto check for fake PR

        Regarding the content we would only add you to the trust list if we deem the content acceptable - which we obviously did not hence the rewrites we did for you. Also I don't know when you ordered but the content was done by a third party provider since then we now use our own team.

        To try to deflate our network like this is a childish, since we are the only network that survived deindexing, penguin and panda so we must be doing something right.

        Blog networks are not the highest quality links out there, if you want that then you need to do guest blogging and spend real time finding real links on real sites - but well kept networks still work well and have their place and increase rankings superbly when used correctly
        The first rule of reputation management is to say nothing and take a deep breath, something you obviously don't do.
        You have been advised by other members on this site to 'drop it' because of your responses to various posts and to move on but you do prefer to throw your toys out of the pram and react.
        It may come as a surprise to you but some people do value free speech, obviously in your fascist world people are not allowed that basic human right.
        Megalomania, narcissistic, call it what you will you do exhibit that trait.

        Link authority's solution to my post was to block my account, which still had credit by the way and present this message:
        You can't login, because your user was blocked. Reason: You should contact us to rectify any issues you believe you may have faced first instead of posting negative things online, we look after our network very well and dont appreciate you spreading false accusations that PR is manipulated etc
        Fact Link Authority's own 'turnkey' writing solution, which I paid for, was rejected by their own moderators.

        Fact Even after 'rewrites' the articles would still be rejected and had to be edited by me so they would be accepted.

        Fact I was made a trusted member to circumvent the moderation and allow their rejected articles to be published.

        Fact Some of the sites did have Lorum Ipsum content on the home page; moderators miss that one?

        Fact A site with Lorum ipsum content on the home page was a PR5; now tell me that a site with 'default data' as you call it can achieve a PR5 if it was not manipulated?

        Fact I don't get paid to moderate for you so don't ask me to help you retrospectively clean up your network.

        Fact Your moderators are difficult at times, I once had an article rejected for using the words "one could be forgiven" Obviously your moderators are unfamiliar with the use of the word 'one' when used as a indefinite, impersonal pronoun.
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        • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
          Originally Posted by digitalfirstaid View Post

          The first rule of reputation management is to say nothing and take a deep breath, something you obviously don't do.
          You have been advised by other members on this site to 'drop it' because of your responses to various posts and to move on but you do prefer to throw your toys out of the pram and react.
          It may come as a surprise to you but some people do value free speech, obviously in your fascist world people are not allowed that basic human right.
          Megalomania, narcissistic, call it what you will you do exhibit that trait.

          Link authority's solution to my post was to block my account, which still had credit by the way and present this message:


          Fact Link Authority's own 'turnkey' writing solution, which I paid for, was rejected by their own moderators.

          Fact Even after 'rewrites' the articles would still be rejected and had to be edited by me so they would be accepted.

          Fact I was made a trusted member to circumvent the moderation and allow their rejected articles to be published.

          Fact Some of the sites did have Lorum Ipsum content on the home page; moderators miss that one?

          Fact A site with Lorum ipsum content on the home page was a PR5; now tell me that a site with 'default data' as you call it can achieve a PR5 if it was not manipulated?

          Fact I don't get paid to moderate for you so don't ask me to help you retrospectively clean up your network.

          Fact Your moderators are difficult at times, I once had an article rejected for using the words "one could be forgiven" Obviously your moderators are unfamiliar with the use of the word 'one' when used as a indefinite, impersonal pronoun.
          Oh sorry my bad, thats where I have been going wrong all this time I should really listen to someone with 4 posts and not stick up for our network

          Have your free speech just as I am having mine back

          I am not even going to bother replying to your "fact" statements individually, just because you put "fact" in bold it does not make things any more true, you basically stabbed yourself in the foot - If we added you to the trust list how would your articles still be rejected - You clearly do not even understand how PR works (Funny seen as though you run an SEO business) or how people get hold of domains with PR and due to the fact I never received a PM from you with the URL I also call this crap.

          Your account was blocked because you could put our network at risk, I mean up until we blocked it you were still submitting content (Very odd for someone who hates using our network) - We are free to block and take action on anyone we deem a risk to the network and who does not work for the good of the overall community.
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  • Profile picture of the author KingRoyal
    Dear everyone, as a regular and decent spender with link authority I wanted to say what I have experienced thus far with their services.

    1: Price - The price module of LA is quite nice, hence you can choose exactly how much you pay. I scale my account up and down all the time per my own budget.

    2: Moderation - I've only had one issue with moderation, however, it was resolved and everyone moved forward happy as can be. The moderators can be tough sometimes though, however if you owned a quality network would you not enforce heavy rules to make sure the content was quality enough to be posted? So when your typing or speaking your articles I recommend that you never try to spin content or so forth, because you won't get approved

    3: Results - One month of working an an individual website and im already close to page one getting me 21K hits P/M. Ive gotten several PR 6 backlinks, PR5 backlinks, lots of 4's, many 3's and so on. The network works, simply put.

    Thanks link authority for giving me the link boost I need. Don't really see me ever leaving haha
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by KingMighty View Post

      3: Results - One month of working an an individual website and im already close to page one getting me 21K hits P/M. Ive gotten several PR 6 backlinks, PR5 backlinks, lots of 4's, many 3's and so on. The network works, simply put.
      Give it time. Any new backlinks are going to push you 'close to page one' after a month. What happens in the next month or so is what matters.
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      • Profile picture of the author KingRoyal
        Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

        Give it time. Any new backlinks are going to push you 'close to page one' after a month. What happens in the next month or so is what matters.
        Its been a month and a half now, im rocking 12K hits a day loool. Yeah man, LA is good, just be sure to keep your services mixed up
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        • Profile picture of the author Musa_Aykac
          Originally Posted by KingMighty View Post

          Its been a month and a half now, im rocking 12K hits a day loool. Yeah man, LA is good, just be sure to keep your services mixed up
          Nice man, glad to see your site is going strong
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