SEOPresser still the best for onpage op?

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I am considering buying SEOpresser. Is this still the best wordpress plugin for web optmization?
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  • Profile picture of the author trevord92
    Personally I find the Yoast SEO plugin works well.

    It doesn't automatically bold (etc) keywords but that's easy enough to do and you get a bit more control.

    It's also free although they do say they appreciate a donation.
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  • Profile picture of the author boosters
    Well i am using Easy WP SEO plugin which helps me a lot in on site optimization. You can find on this forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author lniskasaari
      Originally Posted by boosters View Post

      Well i am using Easy WP SEO plugin which helps me a lot in on site optimization. You can find on this forum.
      Using Easy wp seo too.

      I tried seopressor but it gave me lots of errors...guess it didn`t work with my theme. Easy wp seo has been awesome but also remember you should make your blog look as natural and user-friendly as you can.

      I also tried yoast but when I checked my site for errors, there was some trouble with title and h1 tags and some other stuff was missing too. I decided to switch back to all in one seo pack + Easy wp seo and I`m quite happy with them.

      -Lauri-
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  • Originally Posted by eva dora View Post

    Hi,

    I am considering buying SEOpresser. Is this still the best wordpress plugin for web optmization?
    Yea I bought SEO Pressor about a year ago after trying out the $7 trial, and I still use it for all my webpages.

    Works really well and gets the job done.
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    • Profile picture of the author cssitkt
      Yoast Wordpress SEO plugin (free) and Easy WP SEO plugin gives me everything i need
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  • Profile picture of the author cheapstuff
    Save your money. It really is not going to provide any substantial benefit to your blog. I believe utilizing a one off theme is more important because themes created for many different setups often have code bloat from all the options.
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  • Profile picture of the author ninal
    IMHO, SEOpressor is too expensive. I have it but hardly use it nowadays. You may want to consider alternatives given the price. I think you're better off getting a premium theme for the price.

    You can also try an alternative to seopressor which costs much less: ClickBump SEO! Warrior Special Offer Available Now! | Scott Blanchard's ClickBump Engine Haven't tried it though, but would be good to check out. There are free alternatives too I believe.

    Just research first, I believe there's also a similar thread around here somewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    What's sad is people spend money on these plugins & expect to rank a page in the SERPs.

    Just a quick glance & most of these plugins have a keyword density score, that's a HUGE fail!
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    • Profile picture of the author einsmite
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      What's sad is people spend money on these plugins & expect to rank a page in the SERPs.
      They have their uses, but they're tools and like any tool, can't do the job on their own.

      SEOPressor has been left behind by other plugins, Easy WP SEO in particular.

      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Just a quick glance & most of these plugins have a keyword density score, that's a HUGE fail!
      Why is indicating keyword density a fail?
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by einsmite View Post

        They have their uses, but they're tools and like any tool, can't do the job on their own.
        What uses?

        Most of the things in these plugins are basic Wordpress options that are directly on the WP-Post page, that is already in your face when posting the WP-Post.






        Originally Posted by einsmite View Post

        Why is indicating keyword density a fail?
        Because the keyword density of a page has nothing to do with SEO in 2012.

        Keyword density is keyword stuffing, that might have worked in 2001, today it's useless as far as SEO & just makes the page look like crap.

        Would you stuff a keyword on a 700 word article 14 times (2% density)?
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    • Profile picture of the author cssitkt
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      What's sad is people spend money on these plugins & expect to rank a page in the SERPs.

      Just a quick glance & most of these plugins have a keyword density score, that's a HUGE fail!
      Of course an SEO plugin alone isn't enough to rank but after I installed Easy WP SEO Plugin and tweeked my content the ranking for the main keyword went from position 7 to 5 over night.

      If you're concerned about keyword stuffing / density Easy WP Plugin allows you to change the setting related to this.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by cssitkt View Post

        Of course an SEO plugin alone isn't enough to rank but after I installed Easy WP SEO Plugin and tweeked my content the ranking for the main keyword went from position 7 to 5 over night.

        If you're concerned about keyword stuffing / density Easy WP Plugin allows you to change the setting related to this.
        Exactly, you tweaked your page to rank better, the plugin didn't do anything. After building a single site, you'll be SEOing the pages in your sleep (without a plugin).

        Thanks, but I don't need a plugin to tell me how many times a keyword is on my page.
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        • Profile picture of the author cssitkt
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Exactly, you tweaked your page to rank better, the plugin didn't do anything. After building a single site, you'll be SEOing the pages in your sleep (without a plugin).

          Thanks, but I don't need a plugin to tell me how many times a keyword is on my page.
          You're right,

          the plugin doesn't do any SEO on it's own but I still find it helpful to remind me to do it and with Yoasts SEO plugin being free there is nothing to be lost by installing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ninal
    Indicating keyword density is not a 'huge fail'. I find it useful simply because it's a way of alerting me that I may be going overboard with my keywords unconsciously.

    Unless someone can prove that on-page seo is completely irrelevant for ranking pages, these plugins will still be of some use to most people especially those who need to be reminded of simple on-page checklists.

    Like everything else in IM, these are tools to aid users who need a bit of help. Some can do without paid keyword tools while others rely heavily on them, the same goes with on-page seo plugins. It doesn't really help if you blast these tools with comments that serves as no aid to users who feel like they need them.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by ninal View Post

      Indicating keyword density is not a 'huge fail'. I find it useful simply because it's a way of alerting me that I may be going overboard with my keywords unconsciously.

      Unless someone can prove that on-page seo is completely irrelevant for ranking pages, these plugins will still be of some use to most people especially those who need to be reminded of simple on-page checklists.

      Like everything else in IM, these are tools to aid users who need a bit of help. Some can do without paid keyword tools while others rely heavily on them, the same goes with on-page seo plugins. It doesn't really help if you blast these tools with comments that serves as no aid to users who feel like they need them.
      Actually it is a fail, If you don't believe me have a look around these forums & people asking the same question for what their keyword density should be. If they are asking that question, then they've fallen for the hype & seriously believe keyword density is part of SEO (which it isn't).

      All the plugins in this thread that include keyword density are catering to the people that don't know any better.

      Trust me, I'll be the first to say that on-page SEO is important, see my older post. I just hate to see people get caught up in a sales pitch that promotes something like keyword density. Like I said before, the rest of those things that the above plugins are checking is right in front of you while your publishing a post, all you have to do is look at the page.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      What always gets lost in this keyword density nonsense, is
      that people are writing for a search engine. Bad idea.
      In fact, very, very bad idea.

      Keyword density is a crock. Google most times guesses your
      "keyword" as something entirely different. So while you are
      counting insurance, google counts some other word you
      used 100 times. Now what? I have only thought of keyword
      density when EZA introduced new rules. I got around that
      by claiming my keyword was one thing, but really used something
      else. Guess that's when I realized EZA was a crock as well.

      You can rank for a "keyword" with 0% density, as well as
      100% density. So what? Exactly.

      Keyword stuffing has little to do with keyword density. People
      think a large (who knows what that is) percentage is
      keyword stuffing. It's not.

      People who are "experts" at getting targeted ads from adsense know
      this already. They toss out keyword density, and concentrate on
      keywords in two(or 3) places. Why do you think people get lousy ads?
      Because they are concentrating on some magical density, forgetting
      that the googlebot (and adsense bot) look for clues. Not keywords
      in an article. Why? Because keywords in an article can be very
      hard to determine. We use many words multiple times.

      The adsensebot is used hand in hand with the regular googlebot.
      In fact, the adsensebot most likely crawls your page more. The
      google index will use the one most recent.

      I won't even get started on multiple meanings of words...which
      adds even more heart break to the mix of keyword stuffers....er
      density freaks.

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author jimnastics
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post


        People who are "experts" at getting targeted ads from adsense know
        this already. They toss out keyword density, and concentrate on
        keywords in two(or 3) places. Why do you think people get lousy ads?
        Because they are concentrating on some magical density, forgetting
        that the googlebot (and adsense bot) look for clues. Not keywords
        in an article. Why? Because keywords in an article can be very
        hard to determine. We use many words multiple times.


        Paul
        Can anyone elaborate a bit more on that? I fear I have fallen for the keyword density hype, which always features in every SEO "beginners" guide you read. Is the right way to try and focus on LSI, rather than main keywords?
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        • Profile picture of the author MartinK8
          I use SEO Pressor and I like it, but I purchased it long time ago when there weren't so many other options available. Now I would probably go for one of the free or cheaper alternatives that do pretty much the same thing, like yoast and easy wp seo.
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        • Profile picture of the author retsek
          Originally Posted by jimnastics View Post

          Can anyone elaborate a bit more on that? I fear I have fallen for the keyword density hype, which always features in every SEO "beginners" guide you read. Is the right way to try and focus on LSI, rather than main keywords?
          Nothing more to elaborate really. Just ensure the Titles are descriptive (and include your keyword or a variation), and just write for the reader in mind. If sticking in a keyword makes a sentence looks retarded, don't do it.
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by jimnastics View Post

          Can anyone elaborate a bit more on that? I fear I have fallen for the keyword density hype, which always features in every SEO "beginners" guide you read. Is the right way to try and focus on LSI, rather than main keywords?
          You need to focus on main keywords, but you need to do that in a logical way.

          Google is well beyond keyword stuffing, which is what people are doing when they harp on about the correct keyword density per text page. There is no correct keyword density when it comes to SEO, it's a load of BS that people have used as a selling technique for whatever it is that their selling, in this case it happens to be a WP plugin.

          Your main keyword should be in a few key spots on your page.

          Example, of a few key locations for your root keyword (keyword once per item):
          • Page Title
          • <h1> tag
          • First sentence of your article

          Page Title - The page title is a given, considering most times the page title will also be your SERP title.

          <h1> tag - The <h1> tag is also a given since it's your main heading tag.

          First sentence of your article - The first sentence is dependent on a few things & varies on each site. If your running short snippets of text on the category page, that keyword will be shown. Last, Google will not always use a Meta-description tag (IMO you don't need a Meta-Description tag), they'll sometimes grab a more relevant snippet of text someplace on the page based on the search query.

          Just because you want to rank for car insurance doesn't mean your traffic lands on your page via a Google search for the exact search phrase car insurance. Your traffic might have searched for best auto insurer in Chicago. Notice the keywords auto insurer, instead of your intended keywords car insurance.

          You can point Google in the right direction with your intended keywords (car insurance), but when you throw tough competition into the mix, additional themed keyword patterns related to the original keyword on your page can be very powerful in the SERPs.

          In the end, you need both your original keyword & additional themed keywords, just use the original keyword in moderation in key spots on your page.

          Also know that supporting pages of your keywords are a great asset to have. Supporting pages give your traffic more info. on the subject, & also with proper internal linking give you a competitive advantage in the SERPs by setting your site up to rank multiple pages per single keyword/phrase & tells Google your an authority on the subject/keyword.

          Now don't get me wrong on supporting pages, it's not about pumping out large quantities of pages, it's about keyword themes & internal linking. Link only when links make sense.
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      • Profile picture of the author mraffiliate
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        What always gets lost in this keyword density nonsense, is
        that people are writing for a search engine. Bad idea.
        In fact, very, very bad idea.

        Keyword density is a crock. Google most times guesses your
        "keyword" as something entirely different. So while you are
        counting insurance, google counts some other word you
        used 100 times. Now what? I have only thought of keyword
        density when EZA introduced new rules. I got around that
        by claiming my keyword was one thing, but really used something
        else. Guess that's when I realized EZA was a crock as well.

        You can rank for a "keyword" with 0% density, as well as
        100% density. So what? Exactly.

        Keyword stuffing has little to do with keyword density. People
        think a large (who knows what that is) percentage is
        keyword stuffing. It's not.

        People who are "experts" at getting targeted ads from adsense know
        this already. They toss out keyword density, and concentrate on
        keywords in two(or 3) places. Why do you think people get lousy ads?
        Because they are concentrating on some magical density, forgetting
        that the googlebot (and adsense bot) look for clues. Not keywords
        in an article. Why? Because keywords in an article can be very
        hard to determine. We use many words multiple times.

        The adsensebot is used hand in hand with the regular googlebot.
        In fact, the adsensebot most likely crawls your page more. The
        google index will use the one most recent.

        I won't even get started on multiple meanings of words...which
        adds even more heart break to the mix of keyword stuffers....er
        density freaks.

        Paul
        I agree with you on this. I have sites that are on the 1st page of Google and the keyword may be listed once and in most cases zero times on the particular page. Google usually ranks me for keyword combinations that I haven't even thought of.

        I use a server side analytics program and between 50-80% of my traffic comes from keywords that Google says has "-" traffic.

        If you want to put a keyword in the title, description tags, and your domain that's fine but like Paul said, what if you have a keyword density of 8% for the word "maybe" or "the" what keeps Google from ranking for that keyword instead?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by clickbump View Post

      For example, just because I know how to edit html, I'd rather use the WYSIWYG editor, simply because its much simpler to do and saves me time. If you've ever tried to mark up a nested unordered list in html by hand, you'll know what I mean, tedious at best, but you certainly can do it if you want.
      No comparison though. You are trying to compare it to something technical as in learning a markup language. On page SEO is simply about content on your page. Not talking about any one plugin because frankly I don't even know yours or care to since I know plugins don't make the SEO but my major beef with the hyped up ones is that they usually end up doing two things

      A) hyping some near worthless/weak metric - like telling people if they bold or underline thier keywords it will cause their site to rank #1
      b) convincing people that their SEO is just about done by installing the software and setting it up.

      As for needing a reminder to do SEO on your site - really? You are not reminded by the idea you want to rank your site to do what helps it rank?

      Finally there have been numerous reports that SEOpressor slows down your site to the point where it may actually hurt you in the speed algo Google uses.

      In the end if you need a reminder to SEO your site then print out a list and tape it over your work spot. Cost like a penny for paper and ink.
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  • Profile picture of the author melahi
    My vote is for Easy WP SEO and I believe if you want to get one copy free you probably still can if you need it for one site by getting a refund and you can keep the one.
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    Screw plugins... download/install the free version of website auditor at link-assistant.com. Its a bit more in-depth than these plugins but it'll definitely help you. Check out the video midway down the page.

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  • Profile picture of the author ninal
    Yukon, nobody is claiming that seopressor and other similar plugins will do the seo for you while you sleep. Have you even used seopressor? It's a simple checklist of things you have accomplished or missed in terms of on-page seo.

    The assumption that the plugin caters to people who do not know any better is rather poor and condescending. SeoPressor helped me a ton in familiarizing myself with on-page seo. Now I hardly use it since I know the checklist by heart. Yes the plugin may not be for 'gurus' like yourself, but there are others who lack years of experience who can still find these plugins useful.

    Besides, there are free alternatives and it's not just about keyword density so why are you focusing so much on that specific feature?

    cssitkt tweaked the page based on the plugin's recommendations, isn't that the whole objective of the plugin? If you personally don't need the plugin, don't assume that everyone else will find them useless.
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  • Profile picture of the author FaBiz
    My vote goes to Easy WP SEO as it makes your On Page SEO work extremely easy.
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  • Profile picture of the author rangga_ryuuzaki
    personally I choose clickbumpSEO. It works so well on my sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    Seriously you do not need a paid plugin for this.

    Use Yoast's Wordpress SEO. The only thing it doesn't do is automatically bold your keywords. In any event that is something you want to do yourself in strategic locations.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Cook
    I have used Clickbump SEO and think that it helps with the On Page SEO work, but truthfully if you just learn what it is doing you can do it yourself for free. Except for the LSI piece that Clickbump SEO does, although I am not convinced it is as powerful as it claims to be.

    Bill
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  • Profile picture of the author James Hussey
    Eva -

    I own Clickbump SEO and SEO Pressor, love 'em both but I'd recommend Clickbump's since it gives LSI terms (hard to find otherwise).

    And Easy WP SEO I think is sold here as a WSO - not sure if it's still live or not, but it looked great (better than both IMHO).
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  • Profile picture of the author cool25
    i choose easy wp seo because it has lsi feature and readeable detected,the features that seo processor has not.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        Thanks for the spam...
        Hey everybody, please don't quote the spammers. Especially don't give them additional exposure by quoting their links.

        Also, quite a few of these spammers lately are including hidden cookies in their posts. If you quote them, you're also perpetuating their cookies.

        Just report them and otherwise ignore them. If they actually cared what you thought, they wouldn't be spamming in the first place.
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by Ken Strong View Post

          Hey everybody, please don't quote the spammers. Especially don't give them additional exposure by quoting their links.

          Also, quite a few of these spammers lately are including hidden cookies in their posts. If you quote them, you're also perpetuating their cookies.

          Just report them and otherwise ignore them. If they actually cared what you thought, they wouldn't be spamming in the first place.
          I did quote the guys link in my last comment but I changed his URL too www.corndog.com (LOL), I left the anchor-text the same.

          I did report him, but I get what your saying.

          Thanks for taking care of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author satrap
    I just dont get whats the big deal about plugins like SEOPresser. I mean, for a beginner, yeah, but if you have been around for a while, you should already knwo those simple and basic seo rules and should be applying it to each and every post you publish.

    I watched the demo of it a while back and I just thouight it is a complet waste of money for most people. I certainly do every one of those things it suggests, automatically every time I write a new post.

    I mean, I guess, it is a good minder to have, but I wouldn't pay for it.
    But then again, I remember when I was beginning, those "basic" seo rules were so unfamiliar to me that I guess I could use a tool like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author anarki450
    I got both and im currently using easy wp seo, it has much more features than seopressor
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    The WP SEO plugin is better honestly. There are at least 2 or 3 WSO plugins that are better than SEOPressor if you have a look around.
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