Testing 50 Adsense Sites in 30 days

by Mosa
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My partner and I are planning to build 50 niche sites in the next 30 days. It's going to be quite the challenge but we are ready for it. This is the exact current strategy. If there is enough interest we will be updating and posting our results.

1. KEYWORD RESEARCH

After initially trying out Market Samurai, we found that it was just too slow for our liking. So we are primarily testing Long Tail Pro. The filters for our keyword are as follows:

At least 1200 Exact Match Searches in Google Keyword Tool
At least $1.00 CPC
Exact Match Domain used if available, if not then we’ll add a Prefix or Suffix (such as “pro” or “hq”) to the keyword when buying a domain
Low Competition on the Google Top Ten :
- Less than half are optimized for keyword in the title
- Low PR on at least 2 of the top ten sites
- Low amount of SEMoz/Juice links

Notice that we do NOT include “phrase match” competition as a limiting factor in choosing a keyword. Case studies from multiple marketers show that “phrase match” competition is irrelevant. Simply put: If the competition on the first page of Google is weak, then we will go for it.

Even though we are NOT including “Phrase Match” competition as a limiting factor, we will be keeping track of this data. Our end results will include the statistics as to whether lower “phrase match” competition ranked higher.

2. ON PAGE SEO

We are building all sites on WordPress. The following themes will be tested: Prosense, Bluesense, and CTR. Each site will have at least 5 pages of unique content of 500+ words. We are testing a keyword density of 2-3% on 25 sites and a keyword density of 1-2% on the other 25 sites this month. We are using several plugins to assist us such as SEOPressor, All In One SEO, Cbnet Ping Optimizer, and Google Xml Sitemaps.

3. BACKLINKING

For our backlinking strategy, we will first use SocialADR to social bookmark 20 of our sites. Another 20 sites will receive social bookmarks from either Bookmarking Demon or Only Wire (we are still debating on this). 10 sites will NOT receive any social bookmarking.

March 22, 2012 UPDATE: Build My Rank is no longer being used. Google has been cracking down on these Private Network Blogs and BMRs network has been largely deindexed. We are now splitting the backlinking strategy of our first 50 sites among several different methods. More info on this to come in future blog updates. You can now influence our strategy. Visit here to vote on what backlinking method you'd like us to test

We may also run an SENuke campaign on a small set of sites (although this may be overkill).

AND THAT’S IT!

That’s the general overview of what we will be doing for this project in the next few months. Let us know what you think? Any input would be highly appreciated. If anyone has any suggestions we're also open to testing them out.
#adsense #days #sites
  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    I think that's a fine strategy.

    I would hold off about 2 or 3 weeks before doing anything after sending out the social bookmarks. That way the sites get a chance to settle and you know which ones you need to concentrate on more.

    Interested to know your total investment and how much and how fast you expect a return.
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  • Profile picture of the author pwtmike
    Do you plan on having more than 5 pages of content per site? Are you worried about being able to successfully rank and promote "thin" content sites? 50 at 5 pages each is 250 pages of content... how long do you think it will take you to produce that? Couple things to think about, but it sounds like a good challenge.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Kenny
      You really could do with increasing the content on each of the sites. I would have at least 10 pages otherwise they are extremely thin. Look forward to seeing the updates. A word of warning though. The mod's usually shut down these type of case study threads.. It maybe worth setting up a blog to update the progress.. I hope you've got a mini outsourcing team... This will get hectic!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chambers
      Originally Posted by pwtmike View Post

      Do you plan on having more than 5 pages of content per site? Are you worried about being able to successfully rank and promote "thin" content sites? 50 at 5 pages each is 250 pages of content... how long do you think it will take you to produce that? Couple things to think about, but it sounds like a good challenge.
      I build around 30 Adsense sites a month and they all rank well with 1 page of unique content, he'll be fine with 5 pages
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      • Profile picture of the author retsek
        Originally Posted by Chambers View Post

        I build around 30 Adsense sites a month and they all rank well with 1 page of unique content, he'll be fine with 5 pages
        They rank well for now. I can't imagine the thought a human reviewer would have to see 30+ websites, all with just one page of content targeting just 1-2 keywords.

        While it's within your right to publish your websites the way you want, it's perfectly within Google's rights to say they don't want things like that in their index.
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        • Profile picture of the author Chambers
          Originally Posted by retsek View Post

          They rank well for now. I can't imagine the thought a human reviewer would have to see 30+ websites, all with just one page of content targeting just 1-2 keywords.

          While it's within your right to publish your websites the way you want, it's perfectly within Google's rights to say they don't want things like that in their index.
          Yes it sure is. Minimal work/time/costs and maximize profit via flippa bud
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        • Profile picture of the author Chambers
          Originally Posted by retsek View Post

          They rank well for now. I can't imagine the thought a human reviewer would have to see 30+ websites, all with just one page of content targeting just 1-2 keywords.

          While it's within your right to publish your websites the way you want, it's perfectly within Google's rights to say they don't want things like that in their index.
          oh and it's not just 30 it's around 300 in total
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          • Profile picture of the author outwest
            Originally Posted by Chambers View Post

            oh and it's not just 30 it's around 300 in total
            How much does each site cost you in content and backlinking?
            Do you then flip them or just keep them?
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        • Profile picture of the author Cantbedone!
          I really like this test case because 50 sites is diverse enough to cover a lot of new territory and really uncover some unexpected gems.

          I am sincerely hoping that you guys have the fortitude to see it through to the end and show some real results. I have seen so many case studies on WF and it seems that they just fade out and disappear long before the original goals are met or any useful conclusions can be drawn.

          People seem to get distracted by other new projects or they don't see the results soon enough and simply give up.

          Stick with it guys. Even if it doesn't produce what you expect, a project like this will give you very valuable experience concerning what works and what doesn't with the adsense niche site model.

          Best of luck. I will be following your progress with interest since this is very close to what I do.
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  • Profile picture of the author ukcarl
    Sounds good, are you outsourcing a lot of the content?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    The blog which will contain updates is in my sig.

    As far as the site being "thin" we're actually not too worried about it. The keywords are all very low competition. The inspiration for the method listed above comes from the warrior forum and from a few Internet Marketers like Spencer Haws, Trent Dyrsmid, and the guys from AdsenseFlippers. So a big shout out goes to these guys for inspiring us to build these sites.

    Also we are outsourcing all content creation and BMR posts. Trevor and I also have one additional VA. Our projected cost to build 50 sites this month is $2700.

    Overall we feel that the method above is pretty solid. If anyone wants to try it out along with us (maybe on a much smaller scale) we'd love to hear about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author DeskCoder
      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      The blog which will contain updates is in my sig.

      As far as the site being "thin" we're actually not too worried about it. The keywords are all very low competition. The inspiration for the method listed above comes from the warrior forum and from a few Internet Marketers like Spencer Haws, Trent Dyrsmid, and the guys from AdsenseFlippers. So a big shout out goes to these guys for inspiring us to build these sites.

      Also we are outsourcing all content creation and BMR posts. Trevor and I also have one additional VA. Our projected cost to build 50 sites this month is $2700.

      Overall we feel that the method above is pretty solid. If anyone wants to try it out along with us (maybe on a much smaller scale) we'd love to hear about it.
      If you are outsourcing Content Creation and BMR posts, what are you guys doing yourselves? Just curious as I would like to do something similar with a buddy of mine ... maybe not 50 sites in 30 days, but we will probably start with 15 sites in 30 days.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mosa
        Originally Posted by DeskCoder View Post

        If you are outsourcing Content Creation and BMR posts, what are you guys doing yourselves? Just curious as I would like to do something similar with a buddy of mine ... maybe not 50 sites in 30 days, but we will probably start with 15 sites in 30 days.
        We are pretty much doing most of the keyword research, building the sites, approving articles, and organizing the workers and the timing of everything. If you wanted to do 15 sites in 30 days, you could probably do pretty much everything on your own - it would actually still be a lot of work if you don't plan on outsourcing any of it. If you want to outsource content and and backlinking - 3 odesk workers should do the trick
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        • Profile picture of the author AskJon
          Looking forward for the results Mosa! Keep us updated and wish you a lot of success!

          Did a quick read of your blog and I'd like to add a few helpful comment here though, hope you don't mind

          First, you calculated your revenue using a formula similar to websites created * 30$/month revenue. My only concern about this is that since you're only beginning, you should probably lower these expectation, especially if you're just starting out you'll probably have to adapt either your kw research, link building strategy, etc. so just wanted to make sure you were probably a little too much optimistic, but it's great that you guys are taking action and setting goals so keep building and you'll get rewarded sooner or later

          Second, it's great that you're split testing your on-page seo, but from my experience keyword density isn't that important and 2-3% certainly is a lot, at least to me :p I usually aim for 1%, but like I said it's great that you split test that so let us know what happens Also, it seems like you'll be using All In One SEO, which is probably fine, but my vote goes for Yoast SEO, so just wanted to let you guys know so you can check it out Finally, even though I don't use SEO Pressor personally, some members of my community and friends have experienced a longer load time after installing the plugin, so make sure to check that out. My advice would be to remove that plugin after creating the site and posting the articles, but it's up to you, just test it and report what happens

          Hope that helps, really interested in the results you'll get!!
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          • Profile picture of the author theverysmartguy
            Originally Posted by AskJon View Post

            First, you calculated your revenue using a formula similar to websites created * 30$/month revenue. My only concern about this is that since you're only beginning, you should probably lower these expectation, especially if you're just starting out you'll probably have to adapt either your kw research, link building strategy, etc. so just wanted to make sure you were probably a little too much optimistic, but it's great that you guys are taking action and setting goals so keep building and you'll get rewarded sooner or later
            $30/month/site is not really all that much, even when just starting out. If the keyword research is done properly, and they are getting the traffic, they will easily get to the $30/month/site mark.

            Plus, when you look at another part of their site, it shows that they don't expect any income for the first 3 months. It shows income slowly coming in after 3 months and then building from there.

            They are also going to be reinvesting a lot of their first few months income back into the business, and then explode the production of sites.

            Their plan of action looks a bit like the one that I use. I just vary my site production depending on what I can focus on for the month, and what type of sites I am creating.

            I think you guys are going to do pretty good. I have already book marked your site and will look forward to any updates you have.

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        • Profile picture of the author jord2n
          Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

          We are pretty much doing most of the keyword research, building the sites, approving articles, and organizing the workers and the timing of everything. If you wanted to do 15 sites in 30 days, you could probably do pretty much everything on your own - it would actually still be a lot of work if you don't plan on outsourcing any of it. If you want to outsource content and and backlinking - 3 odesk workers should do the trick
          I agree, in September I built 50 sites in 30 days all by myself, only outsourcing content. I did not work on backlinking at all on any of these sites only systematically building them out.

          It took me two sessions to pick the keywords out and purchase the domains. When you find a niche you can suddenly find five to ten good keyword domains. The rest of the time was installing wordpress, and setting up the theme, plugins, and required 3 pages for adsense (about, contact, privacy policy).

          I have just over a 100 domains now and was getting ready to begin backlinking when BMR put new subscriptions on hold. Any ideas on an alternative that allows for contextual blog networks only accepting unique content? I am leaning towards linkvana.
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          • Profile picture of the author markowe
            Originally Posted by jord2n View Post

            I agree, in September I built 50 sites in 30 days all by myself, only outsourcing content. I did not work on backlinking at all on any of these sites only systematically building them out.

            It took me two sessions to pick the keywords out and purchase the domains. When you find a niche you can suddenly find five to ten good keyword domains. The rest of the time was installing wordpress, and setting up the theme, plugins, and required 3 pages for adsense (about, contact, privacy policy).

            I have just over a 100 domains now and was getting ready to begin backlinking when BMR put new subscriptions on hold. Any ideas on an alternative that allows for contextual blog networks only accepting unique content? I am leaning towards linkvana.
            I would be interested to hear what your current results are with zero backlinks! I am pretty sure the days of ranking an MNS within a month with almost no SEO are pretty much gone, but would love to be proven wrong.
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          • Profile picture of the author WhosGotMoves
            Originally Posted by jord2n View Post

            I agree, in September I built 50 sites in 30 days all by myself, only outsourcing content. I did not work on backlinking at all on any of these sites only systematically building them out.

            It took me two sessions to pick the keywords out and purchase the domains. When you find a niche you can suddenly find five to ten good keyword domains. The rest of the time was installing wordpress, and setting up the theme, plugins, and required 3 pages for adsense (about, contact, privacy policy).

            I have just over a 100 domains now and was getting ready to begin backlinking when BMR put new subscriptions on hold. Any ideas on an alternative that allows for contextual blog networks only accepting unique content? I am leaning towards linkvana.
            You can try a combination of the sites mentioned in this list that aniie posted a couple weeks ago. As far as I've seen it's one of the most comprehensive on this site. I bookmarked it since I recently cancelled my BMR account right before they blocked new memberships.

            http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-networks.html
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    • Profile picture of the author pwtmike
      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      As far as the site being "thin" we're actually not too worried about it. The keywords are all very low competition.

      Also we are outsourcing all content creation and BMR posts. Trevor and I also have one additional VA. Our projected cost to build 50 sites this month is $2700.
      Sounds like you will do well if you are sourcing original content. Make sure its good! If you need any help with backlink building feel free to message me maybe I can help reduce some of your linkbuilding costs. cheers to you and good luck with sourcing all that content.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mosa
        Originally Posted by pwtmike View Post

        Sounds like you will do well if you are sourcing original content. Make sure its good! If you need any help with backlink building feel free to message me maybe I can help reduce some of your linkbuilding costs. cheers to you and good luck with sourcing all that content.
        Yes original and quality content is very important for building high ranking niche sites. What kind of backlinking do you do? Maybe i'll be interested in split testing it on some of our sites.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

          Yes original and quality content is very important for building high ranking niche sites. What kind of backlinking do you do? Maybe i'll be interested in split testing it on some of our sites.
          He is doing SenukeX lol, his prices aren't very interesting as well, you're better off with Fiverr.

          I agree with the Adsenseflipper guys, $30/site is way too optimistic.

          A simple math:

          1200 exact searches $1 cpc
          add another 1200 exact searches for your longtails
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          Total 2400 exact searches.

          Assuming you rank #1 for all your keywords (which is very unrealistic) you would get around 30% of 2400 searches = 720 unique visitors a month, now say your CTR is 8%, that would come down to 57 clicks * $0.60 adsense share 60% = $34,20/month

          Now divide this by factor 3 to get a more realistic prognoses and you earn $11.50/site/month. Which is the same average that AdsenseFlippers guys achieve.

          Since you are using the same kind of linkbuilding, only bookmarks and a dozen or less BMR posts for each site you shouldn't expect to achieve better results on average.
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          • Profile picture of the author theverysmartguy
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Assuming you rank #1 for all your keywords (which is very unrealistic) you would get around 30% of 2400 searches = 720 unique visitors a month, now say your CTR is 8%, that would come down to 57 clicks * $0.60 adsense share 60% = $34,20/month
            Just an FYI: Adsense pays out 68% not 60%

            And the average first place in Google CTR is closer to 40 - 45%

            Are his projections way out of whack? No. If he has a $2 CPC keyword and he gets only 1 click a day, or 30 clicks a month that will give him $40.80/month.

            At a 8% CTR ( like you mentioned ) he would only need 13 visitors a day. Or roughly 390 visitors a month. At the PROPER 40% CTR for first place that is only approximately 1000 searches a month for that keyword.

            Now, if he takes that into account when choosing his keywords on volume and CPC, then he should be fine.

            I know he will do just fine.

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  • Profile picture of the author ktotheb
    Good luck! Looking forward to learning from your findings.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cade21
      Mosa,
      It sounds like a great strategy. I hope you two do well and make a $1,000,000 dollars. Good luck. It will be good to read about your experiences and the adjustments you make along the way. I sense you guys will think things through.
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  • Profile picture of the author jt47000
    Sounds great! Just bookmarked your blog and looking forward to following ya. 1 quick question tho: who are you using for your article creation?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mosa
      Originally Posted by AskJon View Post

      ... it's great that you're split testing your on-page seo, but from my experience keyword density isn't that important and 2-3% certainly is a lot, at least to me :p I usually aim for 1%, but like I said it's great that you split test that so let us know what happens Also, it seems like you'll be using All In One SEO, which is probably fine, but my vote goes for Yoast SEO, so just wanted to let you guys know so you can check it out Finally, even though I don't use SEO Pressor personally, some members of my community and friends have experienced a longer load time after installing the plugin, so make sure to check that out. My advice would be to remove that plugin after creating the site and posting the articles, but it's up to you, just test it and report what happens

      Hope that helps, really interested in the results you'll get!!
      Jon, Thanks for all that great input. You're right, our projection could be high, but I see nothing wrong with being optimistic As far as the keyword density, we could test closer to 1%, but we've also seen many sites do well with 2-3% as well - that's why we've included it in our tests. I'll definitely check out Yoast SEO. And we will look into removing SEO Pressor after we're done with it - Thanks for the advice!

      Originally Posted by jord2n View Post

      ...I have just over a 100 domains now and was getting ready to begin backlinking when BMR put new subscriptions on hold. Any ideas on an alternative that allows for contextual blog networks only accepting unique content? I am leaning towards linkvana.
      Honestly we can't recommend anything else at the moment. From our research BMR seemed to beat out the competition on many case studies. With that said, even BMR is simply based on case studies that we've come across. We're just here to find out if all those case studies can prove useful to us. Yes our methods are risky, and yes we could lose money, but we're prepared to do so. We've researched for 2 months straight on multiple forums and multiple blogs. Our goal is to run real tests and get real results - Good or Bad - with all our research though, we're confident that we'll come out on top.

      Originally Posted by jt47000 View Post

      Sounds great! Just bookmarked your blog and looking forward to following ya. 1 quick question tho: who are you using for your article creation?
      Thanks for the support! We are currently using odesk writers. If you do a good enough job post and have a good interview process set up, you'll find some decent writers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lascruces
    Great information .........Thanks for sharing the outstanding updates and resources with us ....These type of updates are very helpful for increasing our knowledge ..........
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  • Profile picture of the author uoftenwinny
    Wish you good luck.
    This is a nice strategy.
    Learn from it, thanks for the share.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimnastics
    This sounds great! Exactly the kind of thing I'd like to try one day.

    Any reason why you're not using Fiverr for article outsourcing? Not happy with the quality on there?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mosa
      Originally Posted by jimnastics View Post

      This sounds great! Exactly the kind of thing I'd like to try one day.

      Any reason why you're not using Fiverr for article outsourcing? Not happy with the quality on there?
      Fiverr might be a decent choice as well and we may actually test them, but I do foresee a problem. When I want articles done, I ask for quite a few specifics. I don't just ask for 500 words, I ask for specific LSI keywords to be used and I asked for articles to be written in specific ways. My experiences with fiverr people is that they don't want to spend anymore time with you than they need to. On odesk, you can get a good worker who doesn't mind following specific directions or rewriting an article if need be.
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      • Profile picture of the author jimnastics
        Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

        Fiverr might be a decent choice as well and we may actually test them, but I do foresee a problem. When I want articles done, I ask for quite a few specifics. I don't just ask for 500 words, I ask for specific LSI keywords to be used and I asked for articles to be written in specific ways. My experiences with fiverr people is that they don't want to spend anymore time with you than they need to. On odesk, you can get a good worker who doesn't mind following specific directions or rewriting an article if need be.
        Agreed, I guess you get what you pay for. How much do you expect to have to pay per article on odesk?
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        • Profile picture of the author theverysmartguy
          Originally Posted by jimnastics View Post

          Agreed, I guess you get what you pay for. How much do you expect to have to pay per article on odesk?
          Odesk is usually charged hourly; so it all depends on who they hire, how much they charge per hour. and how fast they can produce.

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      • Profile picture of the author keithneal
        Sounds good I'll be following this, pretty much the same thing I'm doing (trying to add 20 more this month to my collection). Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Hoffman
    Looks good, best of luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author JeremiahSay
    wow.. I like your style.. Personally I wouldn't never go for 50 sites at once (for whatever reasons), the most I'll do all at once would be a maximum of 10 only.. its Pea compared to your 50..

    THINK BIG - Donald Trump.. that's why I really like your idea.. perhaps 1 day I should try doing it too..

    What's your main target? Adsense, CPA, or affiliate offer?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mosa
      Originally Posted by theverysmartguy View Post

      $30/month/site is not really all that much, even when just starting out. If the keyword research is done properly, and they are getting the traffic, they will easily get to the $30/month/site mark.

      Plus, when you look at another part of their site, it shows that they don't expect any income for the first 3 months. It shows income slowly coming in after 3 months and then building from there.

      They are also going to be reinvesting a lot of their first few months income back into the business, and then explode the production of sites.

      Their plan of action looks a bit like the one that I use. I just vary my site production depending on what I can focus on for the month, and what type of sites I am creating.

      I think you guys are going to do pretty good. I have already book marked your site and will look forward to any updates you have.

      -- Jeff
      Thanks Jeff. It's great to hear that you've actually checked out our site We do expect our sites to do well and we are highly optimistic. Like I said earlier, our whole process is based on case studies - even the projected income.

      Originally Posted by JeremiahSay View Post

      wow.. I like your style.. Personally I wouldn't never go for 50 sites at once (for whatever reasons), the most I'll do all at once would be a maximum of 10 only.. its Pea compared to your 50..

      THINK BIG - Donald Trump.. that's why I really like your idea.. perhaps 1 day I should try doing it too..

      What's your main target? Adsense, CPA, or affiliate offer?
      We had the option of trying it slow, but I knew it would take us twice the time to learn and gain experience. We decided to just dive in the deep end and split test a few methods. We would either score big or pay an expensive ticket for experience. Also, since we're testing several sites per split test, it's a lot less likely that our results will be due to a fluke.


      Originally Posted by jimnastics View Post

      Agreed, I guess you get what you pay for. How much do you expect to have to pay per article on odesk?
      If you look hard enough and put out a good job application, you can find pretty good writers for very cheap on odesk. Currently we have a few writers writing for under $3 per 500 word article.
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    Hey Mosa...looking forward to following your journey! It's a little scary you're using investment $$ to get started, but you seem like you have a pretty good plan together. I would say that $30/month per site might be aggressive compared to our experiences...I probably would have gone with less in my investment proposal just to be safe...but it's definitely not unreasonable!

    Now...if it works out and is doing well...will you try to expand out the sites to get them earning more? That's the stage and the question we're at right now...will be testing through it over the next few months, heh.

    Best of luck to you!!
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  • Profile picture of the author AfteraDream
    Good luck guys! Awesome to see you got investment to scale it and that can be really powerful. I think you will be doing great in 9 months... I currently got like 5 sites only but am making about $5 a day from them already even though not all rank in top 10. If you get 50 a month done.. wow.. scary good potential!
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  • Profile picture of the author maeldk
    Great and honest post of which I can learn alot from. Thank you. I look forward reading more about your progress.

    I have 20 sites on the way myself, but Im lacking a bit on the SEO part for all my sites. Im using Fiverr gigs atm, but there must be a more smart and realiable way.
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    As long as you already have the content created for all 50 sites you can probably do 2 sites an hour if you use wordpress and then create a master blog and clone everthing like plugins, themes, then all the time taking would be uploading articles, adding adsense etc.

    good luck and keep us posted

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    • Profile picture of the author Mosa
      Originally Posted by TryBPO View Post

      Hey Mosa...looking forward to following your journey! It's a little scary you're using investment $$ to get started, but you seem like you have a pretty good plan together. I would say that $30/month per site might be aggressive compared to our experiences...I probably would have gone with less in my investment proposal just to be safe...but it's definitely not unreasonable!

      Now...if it works out and is doing well...will you try to expand out the sites to get them earning more? That's the stage and the question we're at right now...will be testing through it over the next few months, heh.

      Best of luck to you!!
      Wow, it's great to be followed by people we currently follow You guys at AdsenseFlippers are one of our BIGGEST inspirations! We've read through your blog, subscribed, and everything!

      If everything ends up working well, we will definitely expand out the sites. Actually we've already stumbled upon a keyword that could potentially be made into a huge authority site. We're saving that for later though since our plate is filling very quickly. If it doesn't do well then we'll flip the sites and hopefully at least break even and learn a lot from it.

      Originally Posted by ecoverbee20 View Post

      As long as you already have the content created for all 50 sites you can probably do 2 sites an hour if you use wordpress and then create a master blog and clone everthing like plugins, themes, then all the time taking would be uploading articles, adding adsense etc.

      good luck and keep us posted

      Thanks
      andy
      Keyword research is actually what takes up a lot of time for us. Also we spend a bit of time reading and approving articles, social bookmarking, and managing the team. We haven't yet tried using a master blog to clone everything, although I am curious to try that out. Right now it takes me about 2 minutes to install all plugins and a theme per site. Do you think cloning will still save me time? If it does, then i'm all for it!
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    sound fantastic, great strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarlboroMonkey
    Good luck! I hope you have plans to have other income streams. That's a lot of work down the drain if Google feels like banning your Adsense account on a whim like they're notorious for.
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  • Profile picture of the author dminorfmajor
    I'm looking forward to this man. Should make for a great test run and hopefully an awesome financial investment as well. Good luck

    Also, if you do start updating us here at the WF, I'd suggest you make a blog to update us on it opposed to updating in your posts or initial post. A Fiverr-Only ranking thread was taken down about 6 months ago because he was constantly updating via the thread and doing that here on WF is apparently prohibited so, just a heads up. Again, good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mosa
      Originally Posted by dminorfmajor View Post

      I'm looking forward to this man. Should make for a great test run and hopefully an awesome financial investment as well. Good luck

      Also, if you do start updating us here at the WF, I'd suggest you make a blog to update us on it opposed to updating in your posts or initial post. A Fiverr-Only ranking thread was taken down about 6 months ago because he was constantly updating via the thread and doing that here on WF is apparently prohibited so, just a heads up. Again, good luck.
      We actually do have a blog, I listed it in my signature. While I would like to update people here, I'll likely do most of the updates on the blog.

      So this thread can be more of a learning space.

      If anyone has any questions about what we've researched so far, feel free to ask. We're ready to give back to the community and help anyone that wants to skip a few steps and learn from our experiences - all free knowledge here
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  • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
    Any ideas on an alternative that allows for contextual blog networks only accepting unique content? I am leaning towards linkvana
    Unique articles didnt save them and it wont save any of the others - its not the article content per se - its the links and frequency of posts and stuff therein.
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  • Profile picture of the author Furyx2
    So how long does it normally take to get a site ranked up on the top of Google?
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  • Profile picture of the author vickss
    Great plan. i also tried(blogger blogs not websites) it but as i did not have adsense account(got banned) i was frustrated for a while but after some time i realized that same thing can be done through chitika ads.i visited ezine articles and saw many articles where chitika had good advertisements(you can see chitika ads on ezine articles near footer). it did not take me a lot of time to search targeted keywords for my blogs. as i have my own content creation team it did not cost me so much money. i made 13 blogger blogs but my income p.m is just $100 to 120. Also blogger blogs are easy to rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Do you have an estimate of the cost for each site, for domain, content, backlinking?
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  • Profile picture of the author forumposts
    I am also planning to have Micro Niche sites for my Adsense account, but I am not web master so I need to take others help.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by forumposts View Post

      I am also planning to have Micro Niche sites for my Adsense account, but I am not web master so I need to take others help.
      Get familiar with Wordpress and you are a webmaster too
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  • Profile picture of the author BuyBestNiche
    Looking forward to see results and numbers after this 'challange'
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  • Profile picture of the author speedbird
    That is definitely a very good plan to build 50 niche-specific sites. The biggest challenge apart from creating unique and relevant content will be to build links to the 50 sites. My suggestion is that you consider outsourcing some of the link building work on Elance and/or on oDesk.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mosa
      Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves View Post

      You can try a combination of the sites mentioned in this list that aniie posted a couple weeks ago. As far as I've seen it's one of the most comprehensive on this site. I bookmarked it since I recently cancelled my BMR account right before they blocked new memberships.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-networks.html
      Great Post! Will definitely look at this list and see if there is anything worth grabbing for our tests.

      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      Do you have an estimate of the cost for each site, for domain, content, backlinking?
      Each site is costing roughly $50-$60 to build - This includes all tools and outsourcing.

      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      He is doing SenukeX lol, his prices aren't very interesting as well, you're better off with Fiverr.

      I agree with the Adsenseflipper guys, $30/site is way too optimistic.

      A simple math:

      1200 exact searches $1 cpc
      add another 1200 exact searches for your longtails
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      Total 2400 exact searches.

      Assuming you rank #1 for all your keywords (which is very unrealistic) you would get around 30% of 2400 searches = 720 unique visitors a month, now say your CTR is 8%, that would come down to 57 clicks * $0.60 adsense share 60% = $34,20/month

      Now divide this by factor 3 to get a more realistic prognoses and you earn $11.50/site/month. Which is the same average that AdsenseFlippers guys achieve.

      Since you are using the same kind of linkbuilding, only bookmarks and a dozen or less BMR posts for each site you shouldn't expect to achieve better results on average.


      We probably are a bit optimistic...but we wouldn't be disappointed either if we only hit $11.50/site/month.

      But keep in mind that the 1200 Exact match searches that we mentioned was a Minimum. We have 16 sites up so far and our exact search volume average is 8605 (We found some potential Monsters!). Also the $1.00 CPC we set is a minimum - Our average right now is $2.81.

      Also, Our linkbuilding strategy is actually a bit different. We plan on drip feeding around 40 BMR links per site as well as split testing other backlinking strategies to see if they give extra boosts.
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      • Profile picture of the author outwest
        Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

        Great Post! Will definitely look at this list and see if there is anything worth grabbing for our tests.



        Each site is costing roughly $50-$60 to build - This includes all tools and outsourcing.





        We probably are a bit optimistic...but we wouldn't be disappointed either if we only hit $11.50/site/month.

        But keep in mind that the 1200 Exact match searches that we mentioned was a Minimum. We have 16 sites up so far and our exact search volume average is 8605 (We found some potential Monsters!). Also the $1.00 CPC we set is a minimum - Our average right now is $2.81.

        Also, Our linkbuilding strategy is actually a bit different. We plan on drip feeding around 40 BMR links per site as well as split testing other backlinking strategies to see if they give extra boosts.
        you are only doing BMR for backlinks?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mosa
          Originally Posted by outwest View Post

          you are only doing BMR for backlinks?
          At the moment, BMR is the backbone of the backlinks. We will be testing other backlinks on some of the sites, but we also want to test how some sites do with BMR alone.
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          • Profile picture of the author outwest
            Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

            At the moment, BMR is the backbone of the backlinks. We will be testing other backlinks on some of the sites, but we also want to test how some sites do with BMR alone.
            You are not concerned about BMR given the rash of negative feedback about them lately? especially sites which got kicked 10 pages that relied mostly on BMR or ALN for their links?

            varied backlink profile is the best
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            • Profile picture of the author Mosa
              Originally Posted by outwest View Post

              You are not concerned about BMR given the rash of negative feedback about them lately? especially sites which got kicked 10 pages that relied mostly on BMR or ALN for their links?

              varied backlink profile is the best
              I've heard about this, but i've also still heard more people say it works just fine. If our split test of "BMR only" sites take a hit from it, we'll simply pump other types of backlinks into them and shift towards building future sites using different strategies. Also if anything like this ever happens, I'll make sure to let all the readers of our blog know asap.
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            • Profile picture of the author Furyx2
              Originally Posted by outwest View Post

              You are not concerned about BMR given the rash of negative feedback about them lately? especially sites which got kicked 10 pages that relied mostly on BMR or ALN for their links?

              varied backlink profile is the best
              Whether BMR has taken a hit or not, it seems to still work better than 90% of the stuff out there from what I've read. I'm looking forward to seeing how this pans out.
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      • Profile picture of the author theking2
        Sounds like a good idea for a project. However if I were you I would go for higher Exact searches, increase the # of pages on each site and increase each article to 1,000 words. Since this would be more work I'd probably drop the # of sites down from 50 to 15 or 20.

        Just avoid interlinking or using similar phrasing on each site if you plan to write them all yourself. This will prevent Google from smacking your whole network

        Best of Luck
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        • Profile picture of the author Trehee
          That is definitely something that we will probably do more of later but for now we want to build something that has a lot of numbers to split test and also be something that we can start flipping within about 3-4 months. As far as our Exact Searches, 1200 has been said to be our minimum but to be honest most of the keywords we have been going with are more like 4000-8000+ on average. This project will be the catalyst for bigger sites and harder competition in the future. By the time we are done with these sites we should have a very good idea of what works and what doesn't which will enable us to take this to a new level.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

        We probably are a bit optimistic...but we wouldn't be disappointed either if we only hit $11.50/site/month.

        But keep in mind that the 1200 Exact match searches that we mentioned was a Minimum. We have 16 sites up so far and our exact search volume average is 8605 (We found some potential Monsters!). Also the $1.00 CPC we set is a minimum - Our average right now is $2.81.

        Also, Our linkbuilding strategy is actually a bit different. We plan on drip feeding around 40 BMR links per site as well as split testing other backlinking strategies to see if they give extra boosts.
        Those are bloody nice averages indeed and the cpc is nice as well. I know how tough it can be to find easy to rank keywords with plenty of searches and interesting cpc. Got a nice list here ready (300+ keywords) but now I have to take action as well but dont know where to start lol

        WIll be interesting to follow the progress.

        I would throw some web2.0 links in the mix as well, they aren't expensive, 50 web2.0's for $5 at Fiverr and they never disapointed me.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    These 50 sites are already made?
    Whats the current daily total of unique visitors to the sites?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mosa
      Originally Posted by Cantbedone! View Post

      I really like this test case because 50 sites is diverse enough to cover a lot of new territory and really uncover some unexpected gems.

      I am sincerely hoping that you guys have the fortitude to see it through to the end and show some real results. I have seen so many case studies on WF and it seems that they just fade out and disappear long before the original goals are met or any useful conclusions can be drawn.

      People seem to get distracted by other new projects or they don't see the results soon enough and simply give up.

      Stick with it guys. Even if it doesn't produce what you expect, a project like this will give you very valuable experience concerning what works and what doesn't with the adsense niche site model.

      Best of luck. I will be following your progress with interest since this is very close to what I do.

      Thanks for the support. We definitely plan on following through with the project! We're pretty heavily invested in it and if something doesn't turn out right, then we'll just adapt and test out methods until it finally works.
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    I am looking forward to watching the progress of the thread
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    • Profile picture of the author Mosa
      We've released a 7 day progress report. There are a couple of new things that we want to test for some of the remainder of the sites. One of the things that we will test is Spencer Haws' new theme for adsense. The other thing is SECockpit for keyword research. SECockpit is very expensive, but if it saves time then it's a winner in our book. Plus, so far it seems that it's very easy to outsource our first phase of keyword research using it. We'll let everyone know how it turns out.
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      • Profile picture of the author DeskCoder
        Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

        We've released a 7 day progress report. There are a couple of new things that we want to test for some of the remainder of the sites. One of the things that we will test is Spencer Haws' new theme for adsense. The other thing is SECockpit for keyword research. SECockpit is very expensive, but if it saves time then it's a winner in our book. Plus, so far it seems that it's very easy to outsource our first phase of keyword research using it. We'll let everyone know how it turns out.
        Any income yet? Saw you were ranking #5 with a site already. Also, what tool are you using to check your SERPs?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    No income yet, we have not yet installed adsense on our sites - Although the site at #5 is receiving almost 20 unique visitors per day.

    We're just using Rank Tracker to check SERPs - It's a free tool found here link-assistant.com/rank-tracker/
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    • Profile picture of the author phans
      good luck with the test! i am doin the same thing right now and hope my investments will be good
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    • Profile picture of the author theverysmartguy
      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      No income yet, we have not yet installed adsense on our sites - Although the site at #5 is receiving almost 20 unique visitors per day.

      We're just using Rank Tracker to check SERPs - It's a free tool found here link-assistant.com/rank-tracker/
      Is there a reason you didn't install adsense on that site yet? You could have easily made some income from that site if it is getting 20 visitors a day.

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      • Profile picture of the author tmccar
        Originally Posted by theverysmartguy View Post

        Is there a reason you didn't install adsense on that site yet? You could have easily made some income from that site if it is getting 20 visitors a day.

        -- Jeff
        Even with 200 visitors / day, there's no guarantee that there will be any adsense revenue. With 20? No way.
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          Originally Posted by tmccar View Post

          Even with 200 visitors / day, there's no guarantee that there will be any adsense revenue. With 20? No way.
          Uhhhhh, with a 5% ctr I haven't seen a single day that one of my sites with 200 pageviews a day didn't make any revenue. The lowest number of clicks I've seen is 5 clicks (with the above amount of pageviews).

          Guarantees no, but his site is older then 1 day
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          • Profile picture of the author Mosa
            Originally Posted by safexsolutions View Post

            yOUR pLANS is Good..I have test it a year ago with 30 Sites..and they still giving me 700$ monthly..and only 19 from them are Rankings..but it was a test for me to show my clients what our company do on yearly base..
            You have to make Backlinks Plan more Solid..as if you want to get ranks...Try split your test with Web 2.0 Links+ Profiles Links+ Bookmarks on 10 sites..and multi Level Pyramids on 10 sites...Link Wheels + Angela Paul's on 10 Sites..and see what you get..They way you are doing currently might not work in long run.. Try Odesk for Backlinks Worker too..

            Originally Posted by Laubster View Post

            Aside from minimal blog commenting and web 2.0/blog creations I am using this exact strategy, so I thought I'd give you a few pointers. Make sure you have your primary keyword in your URL; doesn't have to be exact match, but make sure to get it in there. Second, don't use BMR until the domain is at least one month old. All the sites I used it on that were not one month old got sandboxed. As for SocialAdr, the guys at Linkvanareviews.com have determined that it is not that effective, and are recommending Sanndy instead. Sanndy is way more expensive though, so I am sticking with SocialAdr for now. Don't spend much time on it though; social bookmarking gets your links noticed and indexed faster but does not help with link building and moving up in the rankings significantly. It may give a temporary boost but nothing lasting.

            Good luck w/everything!

            Thanks for the advice! Like you said, we're not going to be adding BMR until the site is at least a month old. We will definitely add more web 2.0 links to the future sites that we build. As for these first sites, we're going to stick with UAW, MAN, and BMR. These first 50 sites is more of a test than anything else - it just happens to be a big test. Our results should give us real reliable statistics versus other results we've seen where people only test a couple of sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author pluxus
    About BMR, i have a site that dropped down to page 4-5 for every keyword on the site (8-9 keywords). The site is 2 years old, no spam links, just good blog commets and BMR + some social links(about 150 manuell created). And no way the blog comments would harm my site. My comments are on high quality posts with low OBL.

    The only thing I can think of is BMR. I not gonna use it on my new sites, so If you just gonna use BMR for the sites I think you should reconsider that. What I read on this forum and now on my own site I believe something going on with BMR and I am scared that more of my sites gonna be hit because I used BMR to more sites i have.
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    This is a very effective strategy. One I personally use myself.
    I have over 100 sites which I am using this stratagy with all of which are earning for me on an auto scale.
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    • Profile picture of the author outwest
      Originally Posted by ExpertSEOServices View Post

      This is a very effective strategy. One I personally use myself.
      I have over 100 sites which I am using this stratagy with all of which are earning for me on an auto scale.
      Hi what is your cost per site to develop?
      what is your avg income per month per site?

      I think Adsense flippers is $50/site avg to develop
      $10/mon avg site income
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      • Profile picture of the author Trehee
        Originally Posted by theverysmartguy View Post

        Is there a reason you didn't install adsense on that site yet? You could have easily made some income from that site if it is getting 20 visitors a day.

        -- Jeff
        We probably would have but we think it is more important to let the site mature a little longer and put a little bit more content on it before we start slapping some adsense on. Definitely something to test as far as how soon is too soon!

        Originally Posted by pluxus View Post

        About BMR, i have a site that dropped down to page 4-5 for every keyword on the site (8-9 keywords). The site is 2 years old, no spam links, just good blog commets and BMR + some social links(about 150 manuell created). And no way the blog comments would harm my site. My comments are on high quality posts with low OBL.

        The only thing I can think of is BMR. I not gonna use it on my new sites, so If you just gonna use BMR for the sites I think you should reconsider that. What I read on this forum and now on my own site I believe something going on with BMR and I am scared that more of my sites gonna be hit because I used BMR to more sites i have.
        Well with the number of sites we are pumping out this month, we will definitely be able to tell whether or not BMR does what we are expecting. If not, then it will be a lesson learned and we will move on.

        Originally Posted by ExpertSEOServices View Post

        This is a very effective strategy. One I personally use myself.
        I have over 100 sites which I am using this stratagy with all of which are earning for me on an auto scale.
        Glad to hear it!

        Originally Posted by outwest View Post

        Hi what is your cost per site to develop?
        what is your avg income per month per site?

        I think Adsense flippers is $50/site avg to develop
        $10/mon avg site income
        Right now we are at about $50-$60/site and we are really focusing on optimizing our outsourcing to limit costs. The results for our sites will be posted on our blog as we get them.
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  • Profile picture of the author infoaddicts
    Best Wishes ..

    Investments looks to be on higher side...keep goin and keep us updated
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    Thank you for all of your input and support. We're making some changes to the backlink strategy and adding Unique Article Wizard and My Article Network into the mix. More details will be posted on the blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    I would say this project will probably be somewhat successful , but not as successful as one you would start 6 months from now when you REALLY know what you are doing based on mistakes you make and changes you then implement.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mosa
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      I would say this project will probably be somewhat successful , but not as successful as one you would start 6 months from now when you REALLY know what you are doing based on mistakes you make and changes you then implement.
      I completely agree. With the amount of sites that we're working on, we expect to filter through all the losers pretty quickly and 6 months from now we should definitely have a much better grasp on everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author safexsolutions
    yOUR pLANS is Good..I have test it a year ago with 30 Sites..and they still giving me 700$ monthly..and only 19 from them are Rankings..but it was a test for me to show my clients what our company do on yearly base..
    You have to make Backlinks Plan more Solid..as if you want to get ranks...Try split your test with Web 2.0 Links+ Profiles Links+ Bookmarks on 10 sites..and multi Level Pyramids on 10 sites...Link Wheels + Angela Paul's on 10 Sites..and see what you get..They way you are doing currently might not work in long run.. Try Odesk for Backlinks Worker too..
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  • Profile picture of the author Laubster
    Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

    My partner and I are planning to build 50 niche sites in the next 30 days. It's going to be quite the challenge but we are ready for it. This is the exact current strategy. If there is enough interest we will be updating and posting our results.

    1. KEYWORD RESEARCH

    After initially trying out Market Samurai, we found that it was just too slow for our liking. So we are primarily testing Long Tail Pro. The filters for our keyword are as follows:

    At least 1200 Exact Match Searches in Google Keyword Tool
    At least $1.00 CPC
    Exact Match Domain used if available, if not then we'll add a Prefix or Suffix (such as "pro" or "hq") to the keyword when buying a domain
    Low Competition on the Google Top Ten :
    - Less than half are optimized for keyword in the title
    - Low PR on at least 2 of the top ten sites
    - Low amount of SEMoz/Juice links

    Notice that we do NOT include "phrase match" competition as a limiting factor in choosing a keyword. Case studies from multiple marketers show that "phrase match" competition is irrelevant. Simply put: If the competition on the first page of Google is weak, then we will go for it.

    Even though we are NOT including "Phrase Match" competition as a limiting factor, we will be keeping track of this data. Our end results will include the statistics as to whether lower "phrase match" competition ranked higher.

    2. ON PAGE SEO

    We are building all sites on WordPress. The following themes will be tested: Prosense, Bluesense, and CTR. Each site will have at least 5 pages of unique content of 500+ words. We are testing a keyword density of 2-3% on 25 sites and a keyword density of 1-2% on the other 25 sites this month. We are using several plugins to assist us such as SEOPressor, All In One SEO, Cbnet Ping Optimizer, and Google Xml Sitemaps.

    3. BACKLINKING

    For our backlinking strategy, we will first use SocialADR to social bookmark 20 of our sites. Another 20 sites will receive social bookmarks from either Bookmarking Demon or Only Wire (we are still debating on this). 10 sites will NOT receive any social bookmarking.

    All sites will be receiving backlinks from Build My Rank (BMR). From our research on Warrior Forum and other marketing forums, these guys may be the strongest blog network out there. Some people claim to rank solely on BMR. Later on we will test other backlinks, but for now Build My Rank has our full attention.

    We may also run an SENuke campaign on a small set of sites (although this may be overkill).

    AND THAT'S IT!

    That's the general overview of what we will be doing for this project in the next few months. Let us know what you think? Any input would be highly appreciated. If anyone has any suggestions we're also open to testing them out.
    Aside from minimal blog commenting and web 2.0/blog creations I am using this exact strategy, so I thought I'd give you a few pointers. Make sure you have your primary keyword in your URL; doesn't have to be exact match, but make sure to get it in there. Second, don't use BMR until the domain is at least one month old. All the sites I used it on that were not one month old got sandboxed. As for SocialAdr, the guys at Linkvanareviews.com have determined that it is not that effective, and are recommending Sanndy instead. Sanndy is way more expensive though, so I am sticking with SocialAdr for now. Don't spend much time on it though; social bookmarking gets your links noticed and indexed faster but does not help with link building and moving up in the rankings significantly. It may give a temporary boost but nothing lasting.

    Good luck w/everything!
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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    I like your approach to setting up these sites. I am particulary interested in seeing how well the ones using SocialAdr work for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneySavingLisa
    Was curious to how the experiment is going? I know you planned on using BMR but what do you plan on using now that they're going out of business?
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  • Profile picture of the author mrgood
    Nice and great plan, I am planning to do something similar. Be sure to report us on your progress !
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  • Profile picture of the author tonis
    what are you planning to use now? when BMR is closed...
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  • Profile picture of the author pahsurf
    Thats an awful lot of sites

    do you outsource the work
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    • Profile picture of the author Trehee
      Originally Posted by MoneySavingLisa View Post

      Was curious to how the experiment is going? I know you planned on using BMR but what do you plan on using now that they're going out of business?
      Originally Posted by tonis View Post

      what are you planning to use now? when BMR is closed...
      It would have been nice to ride the coat tails of BMR when it was hot but unfortunately we missed that one. On the flip side, BMR went down just before we were ready to actually start implementing it so no harm there. We are actually looking at it as a good thing because it is forcing us to start split testing several different methods right away; something that we wanted to do in the future after we did 50 sites with our original method. For the first 16 sites that we put up, we are going to stick with the original social bookmarking, UAW and MAN. The rest of the 33 sites will be split into several methods that involve article directories, web 2.0 links, press releases, fiverr gigs, forum marketing, social bookmarking, and some mass article submissions. We have opened up another thread for anyone's input as to what combination/strategy you think we should test. This should be a fun and informative thread and hopefully people will be able to give some quality input. The thread title is Best MicroNiche Backlink Strategy?.

      Originally Posted by pahsurf View Post

      Thats an awful lot of sites

      do you outsource the work
      We definitely do! I can't imagine writing all the articles needed to facilitate 50 sites. We have gone through several writers and have narrowed it down to 3 quality writers (for now) as well as 2 VA's. Ideally we will want to have as much work as possible outsourced so that we can focus on research, management and blogging. If you pay a little more than the norm and interview/sample enough people you can find some quality people to work with you. Josh probably spent the better part of a week finding the people that we wanted to work with.

      Originally Posted by mrgood View Post

      Nice and great plan, I am planning to do something similar. Be sure to report us on your progress !
      Our progress won't be updated here on the forum but we will be updating weekly on our blog. I wish you all the best and hopefully our progress will help you with you sites. Let us know how it goes.
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  • Profile picture of the author keblack
    Hi, I have around 125 plus adsense sites and I can offer some ideas for you :

    1. Don't add adsense on the sites until after 30 days. Don't add any other ads on the sites, like clickbank, adbrite or affiliate offers.

    2. Build at least one page per week, 2 at the most. Each site should be around 15 pages.

    3. Add a social bookmarking plugin so that below each post people can click on Google + or digg etc to recommend your site.

    4. Open the comments, do not close them - just delete spam.

    5. Don't use paid links, like any blog network or similar, because Google is after anyone using paid links, especially now. Use press releases, add FAQ to each site or a free book - engage your audience - that is what Google wants.

    6. make sure each page is 750-1,000 words if possible.

    7. Build a Facebook fanpage, a twitter page and post some videos on your sites and at youtube - to get good links to your site.

    8. Don't put more than 2 ads on a page - the best is a 728x90 at the top of the page and a 336x280 in the center middle or bottom of page. The left side wrapped is often okay too. The Quick Adsense plugin will help.

    9. Have patience because it takes a while to build an adsense income and get high rankings.

    I could say more, but that should help for now I hope.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mosa
      Thanks for your input. We may look into your strategy for our future tests.
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    • Profile picture of the author powercazh
      Hello Keblack,
      Thanks for the input. This would be a great help. what is your recommended themes for these adsense sites? 1 column, 2 columns or 3 columns? what layout is best in your experience.
      Pls advise.
      thanks

      Originally Posted by keblack View Post

      Hi, I have around 125 plus adsense sites and I can offer some ideas for you :

      1. Don't add adsense on the sites until after 30 days. Don't add any other ads on the sites, like clickbank, adbrite or affiliate offers.

      2. Build at least one page per week, 2 at the most. Each site should be around 15 pages.

      3. Add a social bookmarking plugin so that below each post people can click on Google + or digg etc to recommend your site.

      4. Open the comments, do not close them - just delete spam.

      5. Don't use paid links, like any blog network or similar, because Google is after anyone using paid links, especially now. Use press releases, add FAQ to each site or a free book - engage your audience - that is what Google wants.

      6. make sure each page is 750-1,000 words if possible.

      7. Build a Facebook fanpage, a twitter page and post some videos on your sites and at youtube - to get good links to your site.

      8. Don't put more than 2 ads on a page - the best is a 728x90 at the top of the page and a 336x280 in the center middle or bottom of page. The left side wrapped is often okay too. The Quick Adsense plugin will help.

      9. Have patience because it takes a while to build an adsense income and get high rankings.

      I could say more, but that should help for now I hope.
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  • Social bookmarks actually count as backlinks?
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  • Profile picture of the author GeeWhiz1
    Of course bookmarks count as backlinks!

    Why are you relying on blog networks so much at the moment?

    Definitely subbed, interested to see your outcome, thanks for the study.
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  • Profile picture of the author keblack
    Good question. What theme works best for your particular choice of keywords and niche is not always a sure thing. But, I can tell you that I get the highest CTR for the iamwebweb sites that Isaiah built for me - his latest thread is at :

    http://www.warriorforum.com/complete...s-limited.html

    and, no, I am not an affiliate, however, I think he just sold the business, but you can email him and maybe find out more ...

    They have a plain theme and a Wu theme that looks very good and both have worked well for me, except for some reason, the original one is very simple in format and works best. Not sure what format they are using now, but I would trust them - they are good - if you order a site, just check google's first 3 pages or so for your main keyword, to make sure they didn't already create one with the same domain they selected (they give you a list of domain names to choose from, then you go and buy one or many) another extension ... dot net, dot org etc.

    I almost always use 2 columns, with the main content in col 1 and the right hand nav bar as col 2. Put 2 ads on a page - not 3. One at the top 728x90 and one in the middle or at the end of each post 336x280. The Quick Adsense plugin is the best for Isaiah's sites.

    Funny, but looking at Heat Maps, a person's eyes go across the top of a page first, then down the left side and from left to right at the end. That should tell you where to put ads, although I have tried a left hand nav bar and put 160x600 ads there and it did not work well - why you ask ? It is likely because people do not want ads in their face when they visit a site. Also, a 160x600 ad in the right hand nav bar does not work well either, at least for me.

    Then, there is Clickbump by Scott Blanchard - very good program that you buy that has many themes within it. More complex than the one above, but lots of good features.

    Lastly there is the CTR theme which can give you high CTR, but to be honest, it doesn't look that great and they don't support it any longer, not that you would need any support.

    There is also Thesis, but I have not tried it yet - heard good things about it though.

    There are free themes, but I do not use them because of the footer they often leave and because I have not found one that could provide a high CTR.

    Do, I have the adsense game figured out yet ? Not completely. But, my income increases every month, so that is good, and I am still learning. But, I do know some things for sure. For a future WSO.

    Hope that helps. Have a nice week.
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    • Profile picture of the author Isaiah
      Originally Posted by keblack View Post

      Good question. What theme works best for your particular choice of keywords and niche is not always a sure thing. But, I can tell you that I get the highest CTR for the iamwebweb sites that Isaiah built for me - his latest thread is at :

      http://www.warriorforum.com/complete...s-limited.html

      and, no, I am not an affiliate, however, I think he just sold the business, but you can email him and maybe find out more ...

      They have a plain theme and a Wu theme that looks very good and both have worked well for me, except for some reason, the original one is very simple in format and works best. Not sure what format they are using now, but I would trust them - they are good - if you order a site, just check google's first 3 pages or so for your main keyword, to make sure they didn't already create one with the same domain they selected (they give you a list of domain names to choose from, then you go and buy one or many) another extension ... dot net, dot org etc.

      I almost always use 2 columns, with the main content in col 1 and the right hand nav bar as col 2. Put 2 ads on a page - not 3. One at the top 728x90 and one in the middle or at the end of each post 336x280. The Quick Adsense plugin is the best for Isaiah's sites.

      Funny, but looking at Heat Maps, a person's eyes go across the top of a page first, then down the left side and from left to right at the end. That should tell you where to put ads, although I have tried a left hand nav bar and put 160x600 ads there and it did not work well - why you ask ? It is likely because people do not want ads in their face when they visit a site. Also, a 160x600 ad in the right hand nav bar does not work well either, at least for me.

      Then, there is Clickbump by Scott Blanchard - very good program that you buy that has many themes within it. More complex than the one above, but lots of good features.

      Lastly there is the CTR theme which can give you high CTR, but to be honest, it doesn't look that great and they don't support it any longer, not that you would need any support.

      There is also Thesis, but I have not tried it yet - heard good things about it though.

      There are free themes, but I do not use them because of the footer they often leave and because I have not found one that could provide a high CTR.

      Do, I have the adsense game figured out yet ? Not completely. But, my income increases every month, so that is good, and I am still learning. But, I do know some things for sure. For a future WSO.

      Hope that helps. Have a nice week.
      Im the new owner of minisite buzz which was iamweb. Were in reconstructure making sites more attractive and better all the way around
      starting a wso alot of work to run.
      Layle
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  • Profile picture of the author smithwhite
    Well if competition of your targeted niche/s is low, then, i guess you wouldn't need alot of backlinks, onpage seo and optimized content will do the job for you
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    • Originally Posted by smithwhite View Post

      Well if competition of your targeted niche/s is low, then, i guess you wouldn't need alot of backlinks, onpage seo and optimized content will do the job for you
      I agree. Many of my websites have ranked #1 in the search engines with virtually no backlinks. Some of my best ones received over 1,000 uniques per month.
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  • Profile picture of the author patch1308
    Hey, interested to get an update to know where you are at or do I need to search out your blog for updates?
    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    would love to see your update whenever you can!

    =-D

    -Omar
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