BuildMyRank going out of Business!

by MMOYW
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All there sites were de-indexed. Sad story. What now?
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanman
    Well, google has made it absolutely clear about how they feel about paid methods to get links and go up the rankings. This was bound to happen sooner or later.
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    • Profile picture of the author robingg14
      I haven't been at this business very long but I am already pretty jaded... and I think it's because of all the fakery and attempts to get undeserved rankings and sales via artificial means. I've sure had my eyes opened, and would never take anything on the internet at face-value ever again. I say kudos to Google for trying to weed out all this crap. I for one am going back to why I started IM in the first place... to make an honest living providing info, products and services that people want and are not pressured into buying by slick copywriting and trickery. I am so tired... been burned so many times... just want to work hard and make some money... especially with regard to the big debt I have incurred trying to get this right. I can't seem to make any money even though I'm no dummy (I have a PhD). You'd think I'd put my education to use elsewhere but I just love this business, or at least my vision of it. If anyone out there wants a protege/rags-to-riches project I'm it. I have no money though so you'd have to do it as a hobby or challenge to yourself lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author Technologize
        Saw this coming a long time ago!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
    just because a site is de-indexed, doesn't mean a company is going out of business.

    If you have inside information, though, do share. If not, please don't spread mis-information.

    Your post should have said:
    "If a site is de-indexed, does it mean it's out of business?"

    because you don't know, for sure, do you?

    they may be de-indexed on Google, but killing it on Facebook, or Twitter, or Bing, or any number of ways....
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell

        thank you for that. What I meant by my post is that the yes, the website for that part of their business is closing, and that is slightly different from "they are going out of business". Bad choice of words in my opinion, because iIt's almost like there's a stigma attached to that statement.

        One would say I am arguing semantics, but, rumours tend to fly around this forum, and I don't want to see half-truths or just gossip being posted here. Facts sometimes get twisted which is never good.

        Unfortunately, Google's latest changes affected a lot of websites. I think it's not very wise counting on just Google to bring organic traffic to one's site or to "rank", which I feel has pretty much become meaningless.
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        • Profile picture of the author JHelm
          So I'm a just a newfag but have a question. My first site went from page 11 to #3 on first page within a week of using 10 free trial BMR links --amongst other methods- for a relatively low-competition nich. Today I was spanked back to page 33 (far past where I ever was before BMR). I have two other sites I just started doing SEO on but they are hosted as add-on domains so I believe they're under the same IP as my first site. Does google penalize the IP adress or just the URL. Are my add-ons going to start off way in the negative because the parent domain got b*tch-slapped backwards?
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    • Profile picture of the author MMOYW
      Yes, they said it on their site. They are going to offer pro-rated refunds. They seem to be very professional about this, but yes - they are going out of business.
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
        Originally Posted by MMOYW View Post

        Yes, they said it on their site. They are going to offer pro-rated refunds. They seem to be very professional about this, but yes - they are going out of business.
        the website might be closing, but the company behind the website isn't going out of business. They are just going to do something else. The fact that they are offering refunds speaks volumes.


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  • Profile picture of the author MMOYW
    Originally Posted by JimmyAffiliateMarketing View Post

    yeah i got my site de-indexed as well... sad since i was making around 120$ a day -.-
    Sorry to hear that Jimmy. Did you site that used them go out of business, or a site that ran posts?

    What do you plan on doing now?
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Kudos to them for going out of business and not trying to milk it along by lying to everyone and saying only "some" sites got de-indexed etc…

    Gotta have a lot of respect for that because I'm sure they put a lot of work into that network and it's gotta be a big financial hit.

    Lee

    P.S. Most all networks of this sort will be soon to follow, Google is gunning for them.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      Kudos to them for going out of business and not trying to milk it along by lying to everyone and saying only "some" sites got de-indexed etc
      Thats what Linkvana did about a year ago :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author tylamro
    So there are no trusted alternatives to the ones that have closed?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alston
      Originally Posted by tylamro View Post

      So there are no trusted alternatives to the ones that have closed?
      • Trusted probably means big.
      • Big means that Google will notice them.
      • Google noticing them means that Google will open their own account.
      • Google opening an account means that they will discover all their sites.
      • Google discovering all their sites means that they will deindex the sites.
      • Deindexing the sites makes the service useless.
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  • Profile picture of the author powerstrike
    only way to build good and quality backlinks is to build your own private blog network with different class c address so you will be in total control of your rankings
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    • Profile picture of the author Feydakin
      Originally Posted by powerstrike View Post

      only way to build good and quality backlinks is to build your own private blog network with different class c address so you will be in total control of your rankings
      And just how is this ANY different that what got BMR deindexed in the eyes of Google?
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      • Profile picture of the author cashcow
        Originally Posted by Feydakin View Post

        And just how is this ANY different that what got BMR deindexed in the eyes of Google?
        The difference with your own private network would be that it would have a better chance of flying "under the radar" of Google. That's if you kept it to yourself and didn't rent out links on it.

        Heck, they might not even mind you having your own private network for your own links, especially if it was filled with high quality content.
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    • only way to build good and quality backlinks is to build your own private blog network with different class c address so you will be in total control of your rankings

      People keep saying that, but isn't that just as much work (or more) as building web properties with great content to begin with?

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      • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
        Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

        only way to build good and quality backlinks is to build your own private blog network with different class c address so you will be in total control of your rankings

        People keep saying that, but isn't that just as much work (or more) as building web properties with great content to begin with?

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        Fluff is right - for the time and money why not just focus on creating and distributing quality content.
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      • Profile picture of the author mrjosco
        Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

        only way to build good and quality backlinks is to build your own private blog network with different class c address so you will be in total control of your rankings

        People keep saying that, but isn't that just as much work (or more) as building web properties with great content to begin with?

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        I believe in the "content is king" mantra. I want to build quality websites that are useful. I want to make money off of those sites too - but I don't want to be a spammer.

        but how do you build natural links without some manipulation? If people can't find your site to link to it, then you can't get natural links with good quality. I can have the best site in the world, but if it is ranking 1002nd in the rankings it will never grow.

        Even guest blogging is 'scamming' the system. It is the same as BMR - it is forcing a relationship that produces a backlink for the purpose of traffic and Search Engine Ranking improvement.

        BMR was a great way to start the process. I posted nearly 200 links to my main site with BMR. Thankfully, my visitors liked what they saw and in just a few months I have over 500 natural, non BMR backlinks pointing to my content - but those would of never happened if BMR hadn't got me seen in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alston
    BMR was part of my overall strategy. Fortunately it wasn't a big percentage.

    This just may be the kick in the butt I needed to get my affiliate program started.
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  • Profile picture of the author purpleraven
    I have been using BMR on some of my sites. I saw great SERP improvement over a quick amount of time. About a week ago my sites started from dropping #1 and #2 positions quickly, looks like I understand why now. Currently, the sites are still ranked on the first page, I am glad I diversified.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mister Rex
    It looks like link building is going to take on a whole different direction next month.

    I have never seen google and website owners prepare for an algo update this far in advance. If they do hit link schemes in this update, then good for them. But, many good guys will be taken out by accident, just like with Panda.
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    • Profile picture of the author jerry310
      I saw this coming a mile away. It was bound to happen with the popularity of these networks. Two thumbs up though to BMR the way they handled it. Hopefully most people who relied on these networks diversified to dampen the blow so to speak.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    I heard about that. It was bound to happen, Google has had them in their cross hairs for a while now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Harlan
      Hey it's kind of obvious that Google is moving away from the ranking algorithm to the content algorithm.

      Unfortunately, all those offers for instant links and all the WSO's for links and all the offers for SE Nuke and EVO etc.

      They are all recognizable to Google and they are all going down.

      For your own sakes - stay away from these offers before Google de-indexes your sites for unapproved link techniques.
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      • Profile picture of the author boxoun
        Opposite. If they were moving away from links they would devalue links not deindex sites.

        Originally Posted by Harlan View Post

        Hey it's kind of obvious that Google is moving away from the ranking algorithm to the content algorithm.

        Unfortunately, all those offers for instant links and all the WSO's for links and all the offers for SE Nuke and EVO etc.

        They are all recognizable to Google and they are all going down.

        For your own sakes - stay away from these offers before Google de-indexes your sites for unapproved link techniques.
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        • Profile picture of the author Harlan
          Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

          Opposite. If they were moving away from links they would devalue links not deindex sites.
          They de-indexed the spam sites. That removed all the link juice.

          Google is realizing the linking game is up. The system is cracked and leaking.
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          • Profile picture of the author boxoun
            We are both guessing and I believe my guess is better. Their system is built on backlinks. They would need to do a make over to start devaluing links.

            Originally Posted by Harlan View Post

            They de-indexed the spam sites. That removed all the link juice.

            Google is realizing the linking game is up. The system is cracked and leaking.
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  • Profile picture of the author WriterTonya88
    My apologies if this is posted in the wrong area...
    Was a writer on BMR for over a year with over 20,000 articles, had no idea they were shutting down (should have done my research before wondering why all the assignments were gone).. does anyone know another site I can be a writer for? I'll be doing research on this forum in the meantime, was just hoping to get feedback.
    Thank you!
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    • Profile picture of the author LeeLee
      Originally Posted by WriterTonya88 View Post

      My apologies if this is posted in the wrong area...
      Was a writer on BMR for over a year with over 20,000 articles, had no idea they were shutting down (should have done my research before wondering why all the assignments were gone).. does anyone know another site I can be a writer for? I'll be doing research on this forum in the meantime, was just hoping to get feedback.
      Thank you!
      Hard to say not knowing your skill level or price.

      You could check out iwriter for a quick fix. You can read all about it on this forum.
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      • Profile picture of the author WriterTonya88
        Originally Posted by LeeLee View Post

        Hard to say not knowing your skill level or price.

        You could check out iwriter for a quick fix. You can read all about it on this forum.
        Thanks, I was actually on that site when I saw this! Well, out of the 16,000+ I did for them, I never had a rejection. I was doing around 100 articles per day since I'm fast with typing. Hopefully this site has something good available.
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        • Profile picture of the author grumpyb
          [QUOTE=WriterTonya88;5866776]Thanks, I was actually on that site when I saw this! Well, out of the 16,000+ I did for them, I never had a rejection. I was doing around 100 articles per day since I'm fast with typing.

          I am interested to know how much you were paid for each 150 word article ?
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          • Profile picture of the author WriterTonya88
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            Originally Posted by WriterTonya88 View Post

            Thanks, I was actually on that site when I saw this! Well, out of the 16,000+ I did for them, I never had a rejection. I was doing around 100 articles per day since I'm fast with typing.

            I am interested to know how much you were paid for each 150 word article ?
            $1/article
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        • Profile picture of the author Andy Hart
          Originally Posted by WriterTonya88 View Post

          BMR for over a year with over 20,000 articles,
          Originally Posted by WriterTonya88 View Post

          Well, out of the 16,000+ I did for them,
          WOW! you lost 4,000 posts in the space of 25 mins??
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          • Profile picture of the author WriterTonya88
            Originally Posted by Andy Hart View Post

            WOW! you lost 4,000 posts in the space of 25 mins??
            haha, sorry! My bad.. I was writing for them on Mturk.com before I was invited to work directly on their website. Did a lot of work on Mturk but they kept taking down my account because they thought I was a bot (articles were submitted too quickly, but were approved)
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        • Profile picture of the author LeeLee
          Originally Posted by WriterTonya88 View Post

          Thanks, I was actually on that site when I saw this! Well, out of the 16,000+ I did for them, I never had a rejection. I was doing around 100 articles per day since I'm fast with typing. Hopefully this site has something good available.
          Girrrrllll? If you can write that fast, you should write a report to sell telling other people how to write that fast.

          As for iwriter, there is no bar to entry but you have to produce some favorable stuff to move up money wise.

          I'm not a huge fan because the pay is low but they pay weekly and if you are in a bind, basically all you have to do is show up and grab some assignments.

          Tip - Check out the requestor's rating. If they reject a lot, don't deal with them at first because you want to get good ratings to make more money.
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          • Profile picture of the author ashloren
            Originally Posted by LeeLee View Post

            Girrrrllll? If you can write that fast, you should write a report to sell telling other people how to write that fast.

            As for iwriter, there is no bar to entry but you have to produce some favorable stuff to move up money wise.

            I'm not a huge fan because the pay is low but they pay weekly and if you are in a bind, basically all you have to do is show up and grab some assignments.

            Tip - Check out the requestor's rating. If they reject a lot, don't deal with them at first because you want to get good ratings to make more money.
            Just thought I'd mention that Zerys pays out every two weeks via Paypal, in case you were wondering. I forgot to mention that. I haven't heard anything positive about iwriter so far, except for the fact that they seem to accept just about ANYONE (regardless of skill level). Not sure I'd consider that much of a benefit.

            I checked out iWriter briefly back when I first heard of it (someone was saying less than positive things about it, now that I think back on it) and I didn't bother with it. There are better sites, in my opinion. Zerys is great, I was lucky enough to be both a writer and customer support agent via live chat for a while back when it started. You can definitely trust the people behind that site, they are legit and fair with writers.
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    • Profile picture of the author ashloren
      Originally Posted by WriterTonya88 View Post

      My apologies if this is posted in the wrong area...
      Was a writer on BMR for over a year with over 20,000 articles, had no idea they were shutting down (should have done my research before wondering why all the assignments were gone).. does anyone know another site I can be a writer for? I'll be doing research on this forum in the meantime, was just hoping to get feedback.
      Thank you!
      Tonya, I recommend checking out Zerys.com if you'd like to make money writing. Depending on what level of skill you are awarded, you can snag some pretty high-paying jobs on there if you pay attention to the email notifications they send you when new gigs are posted. You can also work out client-specific rates for long-term projects if you end up clicking with one of the clients (most of the customers are marketing agencies who need content on an ongoing basis).
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      • Profile picture of the author WriterTonya88
        Originally Posted by ashloren View Post

        Tonya, I recommend checking out Zerys.com if you'd like to make money writing. Depending on what level of skill you are awarded, you can snag some pretty high-paying jobs on there if you pay attention to the email notifications they send you when new gigs are posted. You can also work out client-specific rates for long-term projects if you end up clicking with one of the clients (most of the customers are marketing agencies who need content on an ongoing basis).
        Going to check it out now, thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author jasono
    SEO on a new arc next month =) sites getting de-indexed, anchor texts less value, etc. So sad.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Want traffic? Buy Adwords.

    Google business tactics 101, especially since they don't care anymore about what "webmasters" think, say or do. They just want MONEY - and if you haven't got any to give them, you're out of business.

    So, rephrasing line above:

    Want traffic? Forget Google and invest in Facebook.
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  • Profile picture of the author orpaz191
    That is why link diversity is so important. never depend solely on one type of backlinks
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  • Profile picture of the author ashloren
    Here is the way I see things...

    Google has it out for these types of schemes for VERY good reasons. Even though there will always be some people using the systems in ways better than others, the truth is that it's really not worth the overall price for Google. Because a lot of it simply clogs the internet up with crappy, half-ass content that dilutes the value of information shared across the entire web until it's a watery bunch of useless ****.

    Then what happens? We go to Google and ask for fruit juice when we punch in a search, and what we end up getting is a melted goddamn popsicle instead. Yuck. Not what we were looking for. There's some juice in there somewhere, but now it's so damn hard to find that Google is no longer very useful, is it?

    I know that we all want to be on that first page. But be realistic. There are only ten results shown on the first page (typically, if you're using the old standard search instead of the annoying non-stop scrolling version). That's only ten slots for whatever the hell it is that we're hoping/trying to rank for. Granted, there are tons of different keywords (thankfully), but still...it's like anything else that we are competing for...except for with search, we're kind of up against the rest of the web (fierce competition, obviously). How often are we really worth showing up on the first page?

    I think we can all agree that there are tons of great sites within each niche out there, but if we were attending the Oscars for internet marketers, would we expect to beat out EVERY other great site that we're up against?? Probably not. It just wouldn't be realistic. Just because you don't win the grammy or the golden globe does not mean that you have to be less successful than whoever comes in first, right?

    I know they say that the majority of people don't look past the first page or two of search results, but that seems hard for me to believe since I almost ALWAYS do. All that matters is connecting with those people who are serious about finding whatever it is you have to offer, and you can build your own success from there.

    Trying to game the search engines is really no different than cheating. The only reason it has worked in the past is because the process is automated, unlike an award show in which a panel of judges evaluates each act and the best takes first place.

    I agree with the others in this thread who have pointed out the amount of effort it takes to create great content is surely no more than the effort put into gaming the system.

    Just my two cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author NikNak
    Many of you knew BMR. He was a playful school-going 2-year-old. And then yesterday, he was smacked down by the Lord-ah! God bitch-slapped him right down to the fiery depths of hell-ah! – Pastor Fat Ass


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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by NikNak View Post

      Many of you knew BMR. He was a playful school-going 2-year-old. And then yesterday, he was smacked down by the Lord-ah! God bitch-slapped him right down to the fiery depths of hell-ah! - Pastor Fat Ass


      Sooner or later he's gonna cut you down!
      When the Google wants you, they gonna get ya. Moral of the story.

      And as for the people who keep insisting BMR was 'quality'...just tell us one thing....

      Can you read? Because you sure couldn't write! J/K.
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      • Profile picture of the author jerry310
        Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

        When the Google wants you, they gonna get ya. Moral of the story.

        And as for the people who keep insisting BMR was 'quality'...just tell us one thing....

        Can you read? Because you sure couldn't write! J/K.
        LOL have to agree
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

        And as for the people who keep insisting BMR was 'quality'...just tell us one thing....

        Can you read? Because you sure couldn't write! J/K.
        ROFL...... Most you are on a roll man. but it may not be the time for such jokes
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  • Profile picture of the author Cecil Dee
    How many people, gurus, etc have you guys heard that swore by BMR and how their quality was so high, etc, etc. My general thought about BMR was that perhaps their quality was a bit too high. I tried them out some time ago with their 10 free links and it was very difficult at the time to get them to approve just one of my posts. Moral of the story is Quality, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. The Big G. They're obviously making a statement here. Powerstrike may hold a more "fuller proof" solution but until then there's always one of my favorites, ALN (which also experienced about 20% de-indexing recently), Article Ranks, Greg D with his ABC was pretty good but they've removed the article submissions in their new 3.0 version which in my opinion was really what gave the network the most horsepower, nevertheless when I used it, it worked pretty well. Traffic Kaboom is also pretty good.

    I believe that as smart as Google is, we (IMers) as a whole will always have the edge, hence be a bit smarter than the Big G.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Cecil Dee View Post

      but until then there's always one of my favorites, ALN (which also experienced about 20% de-indexing recently),
      You are kidding right? You need to do a little reading up. Google's Matt Cutts tweeted specifically about a thread where they are concerned. That network has a bullseye on their back and I would not go near them with a ten foot pole.
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      • Profile picture of the author Cecil Dee
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        You are kidding right? You need to do a little reading up. Google's Matt Cutts tweeted specifically about a thread where they are concerned. That network has a bullseye on their back and I would not go near them with a ten foot pole.

        If google can knockout a top rated guru blog network (Brad Callen) and what many consider the best blog network on the web (BMR) w/in a week (or 2 not 100% sure) they most certainly would have wiped out ALN (just my two cents, could be totally wrong) completely, No? 20% gone still leaves over 15K high PR blogs which is still insanely alot. I used to easily rank websites when ALN had just over 500 blogs in their network. Time will tell, I don't work for Google and that department and unless you do we'll wait and see but for now ALN is still working well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sayed
    I was wondering why many of my posts has gone from top of SERPs to second or third pages earlier this week. I understand the reason now!!!
    I'm not sure but is this the end of SEO era?
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    • Profile picture of the author NikNak
      Originally Posted by Sayed View Post

      I'm not sure but is this the end of SEO era?
      Not just yet, but you could view it as another nail in its coffin, long term Google is only going to get smarter and the amount of people who are able to game it and manipulate it’s rankings in ways it does not approve is only going to get fewer and fewer, it’s no secret the lord has little love for the SEO, as already mentioned I think God would prefer people to buy their traffic and long term the house/god always wins.

      In the long term big business is rarely the little guys friend. Like many sectors of our globalised economy the long term trend of the little guys getting chased out by the big boys is constantly spreading. Perhaps all you can do is either pool your resources into fewer projects, i.e. develop less smaller sites and more larger authority sites or diversify or something, but perhaps I am just a rambling cynic.
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      • Profile picture of the author LiamP
        BMR said in their goodbye post " In our wildest dreams, there's no way we could have imagined this happening."
        They sure lack imagination that case. One of the most if not the most high profile (as in discussed on IM forums) link network in IM. Making them a target Google HAD to aim at.
        Their network had a massive and easily identifiable footprint
        - Overwhelming majority of posts 150-200 words with one link
        - Authority sites (Wikipedia, major news sites) never linked to
        - Sites not themed at all.
        - Sites updated constantly but never referencing recent news
        - No images or videos on the sites
        If you deindexed all sites with the above criteria, how many genuinely useful sites will get lost?

        This day has been coming for quite a while.
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        • Profile picture of the author StewieG
          Originally Posted by LiamP View Post

          BMR said in their goodbye post " In our wildest dreams, there's no way we could have imagined this happening."
          They sure lack imagination that case. One of the most if not the most high profile (as in discussed on IM forums) link network in IM. Making them a target Google HAD to aim at.
          Their network had a massive and easily identifiable footprint
          - Overwhelming majority of posts 150-200 words with one link
          - Authority sites (Wikipedia, major news sites) never linked to
          - Sites not themed at all.
          - Sites updated constantly but never referencing recent news
          - No images or videos on the sites
          If you deindexed all sites with the above criteria, how many genuinely useful sites will get lost?

          This day has been coming for quite a while.
          This is part of the equation but I think everyone is forgetting who Big G really is.
          Different c-class ip's and private registration wont even save you these days,
          Sites need to be registered under dozens if not hundreds of alias's..

          If you look down the rabbit hole far enough you'll find certain 3 letter agencies G is involved with..

          They can find out anything about anyone these days..
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  • Profile picture of the author neil_patmore
    I'm not sure but is this the end of SEO era?
    I think we need a reality check here. BMR might have made it easier for people to rank sites. But the demise of BMR certainly isn't the end of SEO! How do you think people ranked sites two yrs ago before BMR launched??
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by neil_patmore View Post

      I think we need a reality check here. BMR might have made it easier for people to rank sites. But the demise of BMR certainly isn't the end of SEO! How do you think people ranked sites two yrs ago before BMR launched??
      For many people - Senuke and angela backlinks but that changed on them too so of course they think SEO is dead. If you are of the opinion that buying some services will make you rank you are getting ready to jump off a high building.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dmreed4311
    BMR has offered to remove all links in thier network to your sites. If you have not been nailed yet by google I wonder if removing them might save your butt!
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  • Profile picture of the author TeamBringIt
    I'm on 2 blog networks as well and gonna dump them if they don't show positive results...
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
    This is the danger of any links network, a shame because I did like BMR and had nearly 1200 live posts !They were a lot stricter with content than other sites which no doubt resulted in many page one rankings which ironically may have been the downfall when google started looking closer at the network and any potential footprints.

    I posted a recent review of BMR which is now pointless at Build My Rank Review and Alternatives | kevinmcnally.org

    Interesting point about sites with links coming from BMR sites potentially being deindexed, pretty easy for competitors to buy links at all the network sites and point them to your site if it was that easy.
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