Is SEOPressor Still Useful After Google Annouce They Will Penalize on Over Optimization?

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Are tools like SEOPressor no longer useful anymore (and may even hurt your site) after Google announce that they will penalize sites that over optimize their SEO. What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author The A
    well, SEOpressor or typical plugins are little to none useful from the begining. I mean, seriously, why you pay for a plugin that can only help you with OPSEO. manyy free alternatives of such plugins out there and they work as good. take wordpress seo by yoast. it's got a checklist too to help you ensure that you've done everything
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    • Profile picture of the author SeoKnightsInc
      Originally Posted by The A View Post

      well, SEOpressor or typical plugins are little to none useful from the begining. I mean, seriously, why you pay for a plugin that can only help you with OPSEO.
      Had you ever used SEOPressor ? if not than you dont have the right to criticize it as you dont know at all the power of it. I had many fantastic results using it. For many long tail k/w and as well as the k/w i am targeting i had even 2-4 listing on the first page for a k/w due to that plugin.


      dont know why people say so big things without any experience. :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author retsek
        Originally Posted by pbbiet View Post

        Had you ever used SEOPressor ? if not than you dont have the right to criticize it as you dont know at all the power of it. I had many fantastic results using it. For many long tail k/w and as well as the k/w i am targeting i had even 2-4 listing on the first page for a k/w due to that plugin.


        dont know why people say so big things without any experience. :rolleyes:
        I used it to see what all the fuss was about and I'd say if you follow its recommendations, your "optimized" pages will probably be penalized in the coming update.

        It's not completely useless. But there's free plugins that do a better job. The on-page recommendations from Yoast's Wordpress SEO for example, are safe from any over-optimisation - in my opinion.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by retsek View Post

          I used it to see what all the fuss was about and I'd say if you follow its recommendations, your "optimized" pages will probably be penalized in the coming update.

          It's not completely useless. But there's free plugins that do a better job. The on-page recommendations from Yoast's Wordpress SEO for example, are safe from any over-optimisation - in my opinion.
          Yesterday I had a potential client contacting me who used the Yoast plugin, not sure if it was the plugin or his own ignorance as his page was fully stuffed with keywords and he didn't like it when I said something about it, he ranked at #7 for a somewhat competitive keyword after all.

          Eventually he wasn't interested in my service cause he was afraid it would hurt his site (like the keyword stuffing wouldn't do so already) and then asked me if this 7000 wiki backlinks from someone else was a good service :rolleyes:

          Sorry just had to share this one
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Yesterday I had a potential client contacting me who used the Yoast plugin, not sure if it was the plugin or his own ignorance as his page was fully stuffed with keywords and he didn't like it when I said something about it, he ranked at #7 for a somewhat competitive keyword after all.

            Eventually he wasn't interested in my service cause he was afraid it would hurt his site (like the keyword stuffing wouldn't do so already) and then asked me if this 7000 wiki backlinks from someone else was a good service :rolleyes:

            Sorry just had to share this one
            Trust me you don't want to deal with guys like that, more headache than what it's worth.

            I'm not trying to be mean, but most times when you see someone stuck on things like keyword stuffing, they are probably brainwashed on the subject from so many sales pitch & affiliate praise of the product.

            The best you can do is give them solid advice & move on.
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              Trust me you don't want to deal with guys like that, more headache than what it's worth.

              I'm not trying to be mean, but most times when you see someone stuck on things like keyword stuffing, they are probably brainwashed on the subject from so many sales pitch & affiliate praise of the product.

              The best you can do is give them solid advice & move on.
              Thats what I did indeed, and afterwards I removed him from Skype, if they know everything better then why ask for advice in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    It was complete nonsense to begin with. Write engaging content, that's all you need. I have never looked at any keyword %'s and I have absolutely no problems ranking for my target keywords.

    All the other on-page factors can easily be configured using any WP SEO plugin.
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    • Profile picture of the author SeoKnightsInc
      Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

      It was complete nonsense to begin with. Write engaging content, that's all you need.
      That plugin helps you not to stuff k/w in your content while writing your content. It helps in keeping you safe from SE penalty due to careless writing.


      Regarding overoptimization issue of Google i too had listen that audio of Matt Cutts and in that he had just said that he will penalized site which are k/w stuffing of doing such things that are not in rule of Google. Those plugin dont let you to break the rules of Google.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by pbbiet View Post

        That plugin helps you not to stuff k/w in your content while writing your content. It helps in keeping you safe from SE penalty due to careless writing.


        Regarding overoptimization issue of Google i too had listen that audio of Matt Cutts and in that he had just said that he will penalized site which are k/w stuffing of doing such things that are not in rule of Google. Those plugin dont let you to break the rules of Google.
        Are you kidding me? Not stuffing keyword in your content? What I remember is that it suggested to bold/italic/underline the keyword, put it in h1,h2 and h3 tags, achieve a keyword density of a few %, and you dare to call that "No keyword stuffing"?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          Are you kidding me? Not stuffing keyword in your content? What I remember is that it suggested to bold/italic/underline the keyword, put it in h1,h2 and h3 tags, achieve a keyword density of a few %, and you dare to call that "No keyword stuffing"?
          ^^ exactly. He did market it well though - look at all the people here who fell for it. Excellent.

          Again - just write good content.
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        • Profile picture of the author SeoKnightsInc
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          Are you kidding me? Not stuffing keyword in your content? What I remember is that it suggested to bold/italic/underline the keyword, put it in h1,h2 and h3 tags, achieve a keyword density of a few %, and you dare to call that "No keyword stuffing"?
          Well thanks for your new definition of k/w stuffing.

          BUT I dont need your definition i was just telling my own results by using it.

          If putting your k/w in h1 tag and underling or making it bold is k/w stuffing than i think you should learn more about k/w stuffing before arguing.

          And related to percentage of k/w in the content it is set to 2-3% which is quite low i think. Using k/w 2-3 times in 100 words is not k/w stuffing at all.
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by pbbiet View Post

            Well thanks for your new definition of k/w stuffing.

            BUT I dont need your definition i was just telling my own results by using it.

            If putting your k/w in h1 tag and underling or making it bold is k/w stuffing than i think you should learn more about k/w stuffing before arguing.

            And related to percentage of k/w in the content it is set to 2-3% which is quite low i think. Using k/w 2-3 times in 100 words is not k/w stuffing at all.
            Yeah mentioning a kw 2-3 times in 100 words is only 10-15 times in a 500 word post :rolleyes:

            You still think that's not kw stuffing?
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          • Profile picture of the author Hossain
            Originally Posted by pbbiet View Post

            Well thanks for your new definition of k/w stuffing.

            BUT I dont need your definition i was just telling my own results by using it.

            If putting your k/w in h1 tag and underling or making it bold is k/w stuffing than i think you should learn more about k/w stuffing before arguing.

            And related to percentage of k/w in the content it is set to 2-3% which is quite low i think. Using k/w 2-3 times in 100 words is not k/w stuffing at all.

            Brother I myself didn't see any benefit of bolding keywords. 2-3% keyword density is awful density if word count is high. Both of these are myths and exactly matching to the definition of Keyword Stuffing. I have tested many times before telling you here. I hope you would trust me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kris79
    I see no point in using paid plugins for On-Page SEO.
    You can use SEO plugin from Yoast, which is the best one.

    Secondly we do not know what that statement from Google about "over optimization" really mean and how it will be determine. Just put good quality content and do not do any black hat and crappy BLs.
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  • Profile picture of the author SomedayMaybe
    I've never used it, but I would have thought if it was a paid plugin it would have to adapt to the new needs of the market, if they can be established, or risk becoming redundant. I assume the mechanics of the plugin would remain the same, and it would just need the limits tweaking. A question addressed to the developer would probably be of more use than one addressed to the forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    I've never used it. Never had to because I have superb offsite SEO working for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author nrupen
    I have used SEOPressor and I can surely say that it was of no use to me. I don't use it anymore because every thing works absolutely fine even without this plug-in
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  • Profile picture of the author Hossain
    Originally Posted by fated82 View Post

    Are tools like SEOPressor no longer useful anymore (and may even hurt your site) after Google announce that they will penalize sites that over optimize their SEO. What do you think?
    SEOPressor is not something that is over optimizing a page. In fact these types of tools are developed to make sure a page is getting well onpage optimization.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanLB
    From what I have seen, none of my sites that had a lot of onsite optimization have been penalized that heavily. Most of my penalties have come from over optimizing anchor texts, using too many of one type of backlink or pointing too many links at the home page and not enough at inner pages.
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    • Profile picture of the author The A
      you don't need such plugin to prevent you from stuffing keyword to your content. just use your common sense, if your articles sound very much repetitive then it mean you've stuffed your keywords. so again, i think such plugin is not essential
      Originally Posted by pbbiet View Post

      That plugin helps you not to stuff k/w in your content while writing your content. It helps in keeping you safe from SE penalty due to careless writing.
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  • Profile picture of the author radivoj
    Hey don't worry much about SEOPressor and ON page regarding new Over Optimization penalty for new Google Algorithm they mostly mean on OF page penalty and they will start to cracking down sites that use link building service to climb the ranking and white-hat link building you do it will consider spam by Google and you will get penalized for "unnatural links"...Google has penalized over 800K sites for "unnatural links"...
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  • Still seems to be doing the trick for me ok.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Tan
    Like always, when Matt releases something, it creates panic and speculation.

    SEOPressor is supporting more than 15 million wordpress pages/posts right now. We are using it on our 2,000+ sites. We have not seen any adverse observations.

    SEOPressor does very important and fundamental on-page SEO. That's all. It's the crucial and basic ones that will help you the most in your SEO. We do not go overboard doing crazy things.

    I have always believed in running the show together with Google and not going against them. SEOPressor is heading the same direction. Every time Google updates their algorithm, we get thank-you emails from some of the users saying their sites actually improve in ranking, and some of the previously-ranking sites (with crap content) has dropped. We are happy for them.

    Go for genuine SEO. Do on-page, content baiting, watch your visitors behavior and improve your overall site's performance. That's all you need to do. Forget Fiverr, forget spamming backlinks, forget other crazy manipulations. Do the REAL SEO.

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    • Profile picture of the author bitriot
      Here is the thing about SEO Pressor type plugins... right now they seem to help with optimization - but ultimately you need to understand that this style of optimization flies in the face of LSI content. The long term content strategy should not be to pack a page with the same keyword - it should be to pack the page with synonyms for that keyword.

      Adding a specific keyword to a H1, title and maybe once or twice in the body content should be more than enough.
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    • Profile picture of the author SeoKnightsInc
      Originally Posted by Daniel Tan View Post

      Like always, when Matt releases something, it creates panic and speculation.

      SEOPressor is supporting more than 15 million wordpress pages/posts right now. We are using it on our 2,000+ sites. We have not seen any adverse observations.

      SEOPressor does very important and fundamental on-page SEO. That's all. It's the crucial and basic ones that will help you the most in your SEO. We do not go overboard doing crazy things.

      I have always believed in running the show together with Google and not going against them. SEOPressor is heading the same direction. Every time Google updates their algorithm, we get thank-you emails from some of the users saying their sites actually improve in ranking, and some of the previously-ranking sites (with crap content) has dropped. We are happy for them.

      Go for genuine SEO. Do on-page, content baiting, watch your visitors behavior and improve your overall site's performance. That's all you need to do. Forget Fiverr, forget spamming backlinks, forget other crazy manipulations. Do the REAL SEO.

      Daniel
      But for some warriors here it is K/W stuffing

      LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by pbbiet View Post

        But for some warriors here it is K/W stuffing

        LOL



        It is keyword stuffing.

        Both density & stuffing are counting words on a page.

        It's defiantly not SEO.
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        • Profile picture of the author SeoKnightsInc
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          It is keyword stuffing.

          Both density & stuffing are counting words on a page.

          It's defiantly not SEO.
          Yukon i dont learn SEO or anything from other, i do my own experiments and if its work than it is good and right now it is working fantastic for me.

          One more thing I AM NOT ADVERTISING SEO PRESSOR OR WP EASY SEO here AT ALL.

          I am just sharing my own experience with those plugins. I dont care if it is over optimization or under optimization. GOOGLE has never told you what is over optimization.

          I dont follow the rules of so called GURUS here as no one knows what algo google follows.
          There are No pre-defined rules in SEO we work and find the best methods which works and these methods are not defined in Google or anywhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    I still don't get it. What's wrong with simply writing good content? Write naturally and use all the fancy stuff where/when you see fit. W.T.F?
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  • Profile picture of the author Julia Baby
    I don't know why people always hear of Google, Mat Cutts & everybody. Why don't they stay away from it and concentrate on their own work. Google want you to confuse, why don't you confuse Google like me and get TOP rankings every time.
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  • Profile picture of the author uoftenwinny
    Is it no good for keyword?
    Our site drop straight away.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hansons
    As SEOprocessor helps in avoiding keyword stuffing so it works for the purpose, for the demand of today, we must need such plugin.
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