I make a full time adsense income without ranking keywords

by nest28
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Basically I build large sites using blogger custom domains. I don't use any kind of adsense ctr theme or any other commonly used templates. Here is a example of a template i might usefree blogger templates.

I place one adsense block in the sidebar which is only shown on the homepage, the rest will be inside the content to the left. I used to make blog posts that were the exact match as the keyword I wanted to rank, for example if I wanted to rank for registered nurse, than the title of the post would be registered nurse. Now I look for niches that have potential to become large sites, so I stick to medical careers. The medical field pays well, normally I will see 2,3 and 4 dollar clicks. Each site only gets between 80 and 125 visitors a day yet they all make 100.00 to 150.00 a month.

I only backlink the homepage using article marketing ,social bookmarks, forum profiles etc. I don't even try to rank these sites for any keyword, all my traffic come from long tail searches. I use google analytics to see how people got to my site than I use those search terms as post titles. For example , Do I have to be good at math to become a registered nurse, can I become a registered nurse with a g.e.d. , how do I become a registered nurse if I already have a degree in health science


The only thing I do to make a site is search for a medical career, research what kind of degrees and training is required , think of a bunch of questions I can write about and that's it. Each site is 75 to 100 pages.


Edit: 6/4/13

Never use the type of links described above ( article marketing ,social bookmarks, forum profiles etc) they will most defiantly harm your site.
#adsense #full #income #keywords #make #ranking #time
  • Profile picture of the author bcruan
    If this is true, why the hell would you tell everyone??
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Why not, It wont effect me. Besides most people are to lazy to make 10 sites that are a hundred pages each. Also if thats the case why does anyone tell how they make money online. I share this info to help other imer's.
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      • Profile picture of the author yesi
        Hey,

        First I want to thank you for such an inspiring thread. Do you have an example of one of your blog?

        Brgds,
        Yesi
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    • Profile picture of the author metafever
      Originally Posted by bcruan View Post

      If this is true, why the hell would you tell everyone??
      He didn't give up any secrets . . .
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  • Profile picture of the author Legit SEO
    I'm really digging that travel theme. And congrats on your success, I just couldn't imagine writing 100 articles. I'm guessing you outsource most of that work?
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  • Profile picture of the author MonthofMay
    What is the advantage of using a blogger custom domain?
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  • Profile picture of the author bcruan
    There is a big difference between saying how you make money online and telling people one of th exact niches you are going after. Fair enough for sharing but you will be suprised what some people will do for $150 a month!
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    I think the title is a little misleading, you say you're not ranking keywords but you builded links so you did rank keywords indirectly. The juice from your homepage flows through your internal anchor txt's and thus ranks them.
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    • Profile picture of the author RyanLB
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      I think the title is a little misleading, you say you're not ranking keywords but you builded links so you did rank keywords indirectly. The juice from your homepage flows through your internal anchor txt's and thus ranks them.
      This. Just because your not actively targeting keywords doesn't mean that your not ranking for some. I would say, if anything, you are leaving money on the table by taking this approach.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by talkmeow View Post

        I'm really digging that travel theme. And congrats on your success, I just couldn't imagine writing 100 articles. I'm guessing you outsource most of that work?
        yes I use the content authority
        Originally Posted by meihualam View Post

        What is the advantage of using a blogger custom domain?
        none that I know of
        Originally Posted by bcruan View Post

        There is a big difference between saying how you make money online and telling people one of th exact niches you are going after. Fair enough for sharing but you will be suprised what some people will do for $150 a month!
        registered nurse was just example
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        I think the title is a little misleading, you say you're not ranking keywords but you builded links so you did rank keywords indirectly. The juice from your homepage flows through your internal anchor txt's and thus ranks them.
        I suppose that is true, but I just meant that I don't go after keywords with nice amount of local searches, instead I rely on long tail traffic alone

        Originally Posted by RyanLB View Post

        This. Just because your not actively targeting keywords doesn't mean that your not ranking for some. I would say, if anything, you are leaving money on the table by taking this approach.
        This may be true but most of this niches are far to competitive for my taste , it takes to much to rank and maintain your rankings, with this method I do very little backlinking
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          I suppose that is true, but I just meant that I don't go after keywords with nice amount of local searches, instead I rely on long tail traffic alone
          Ah okay, you are certainly doing something good when you make a fulltime income out of it

          A question though, can you use these blogger templates just like wordpress templates on your own hosting or can you only use them when registering an account so that it's some kind of a layout or something? I'm really a total noob on that front.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Ah okay, you are certainly doing something good when you make a fulltime income out of it

            A question though, can you use these blogger templates just like wordpress templates on your own hosting or can you only use them when registering an account so that it's some kind of a layout or something? I'm really a total noob on that front.
            The templates from premium blogger templates are actually wordpress clones that are made for blogspot, I believe they can be used on your own hosting, but I wouldn't know never paid hosting.
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              The templates from premium blogger templates are actually wordpress clones that are made for blogspot, I believe they can be used on your own hosting, but I wouldn't know never paid hosting.
              Yeah that one in that link looks exactly like the theme that I use on one of my sites so was really like, lol what is that.

              The thing I'm a little scared of with free hosting is what happens if they ever quit. Now I don't see Google quitting that fast but they did quit with something else not so long ago (don't remember exactly what it was).
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              • Profile picture of the author nest28
                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                Yeah that one in that link looks exactly like the theme that I use on one of my sites so was really like, lol what is that.

                The thing I'm a little scared of with free hosting is what happens if they ever quit. Now I don't see Google quitting that fast but they did quit with something else not so long ago (don't remember exactly what it was).
                lol, there is a way to migrate blogspot blogs to wordpress, so if google ever decides to change anything thats what I will do.
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                • Profile picture of the author NicheDad
                  Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                  lol, there is a way to migrate blogspot blogs to wordpress, so if google ever decides to change anything thats what I will do.
                  If I were you I'd be using that method now to back up my blogs.
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        • Profile picture of the author RyanLB
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          This may be true but most of this niches are far to competitive for my taste , it takes to much to rank and maintain your rankings, with this method I do very little backlinking
          I see. Well if you want to avoid backlinking then I think the strategy is ok. But you shouldnt be so scared of higher comptition keywords.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by RyanLB View Post

            I see. Well if you want to avoid backlinking then I think the strategy is ok. But you shouldnt be so scared of higher comptition keywords.
            Google seems to be cracking down on backlinking, so how do you propose I rank these high competition keywords without getting a notice of unnatural links message. If this was couple years ago maybe I would go after these type of keywords but I rather not have to go to war with every imer on first page for my keyword. One of my sites is about ultrasound technicians and the first page results for the term change every single day, nobody stays in the top 3 for more than a couple days, and I've seen some sites totally disappear.Correction I've seen a lot of sites disappear.

            Any suggestions as to how I can rank for these keywords without creating hundreds of spam links would be appreciated.
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            • Profile picture of the author dakar
              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              I haven't used adwords in 2 years so idk, plus using adwords in medical field would be expensive.
              Thanks. I was thinking about adwords because it might be a valuable tool in discovering additional longtail keywords as well. But you're right, I would assume the CPC is over $5 in medical fields.

              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              Google seems to be cracking down on backlinking, so how do you propose I rank these high competition keywords without getting a notice of unnatural links message. If this was couple years ago maybe I would go after these type of keywords but I rather not have to go to war with every imer on first page for my keyword. One of my sites is about ultrasound technicians and the first page results for the term change every single day, nobody stays in the top 3 for more than a couple days, and I've seen some sites totally disappear.Correction I've seen a lot of sites disappear.

              Any suggestions as to how I can rank for these keywords without creating hundreds of spam links would be appreciated.
              This isn't a suggestion, as I am not an expert in backlinking, but I would to remind you to think of the other thread about micro niche sites (how i went from $0 to $2000...). According to the thread owner, using UAW is a legit way of backlinking because all they do is submit your articles to directories that are seeking this info. UAW doesn't own the directories.
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              • Profile picture of the author nest28
                Originally Posted by dakar View Post

                Thanks. I was thinking about adwords because it might be a valuable tool in discovering additional longtail keywords as well. But you're right, I would assume the CPC is over $5 in medical fields.



                This isn't a suggestion, as I am not an expert in backlinking, but I would to remind you to think of the other thread about micro niche sites (how i went from $0 to $2000...). According to the thread owner, using UAW is a legit way of backlinking because all they do is submit your articles to directories that are seeking this info. UAW doesn't own the directories.
                I don't think UAW alone or combined with other commonly used links will get me to the number spot for a high competition keyword. UAW is probably best use on micro niche site with low competition. I am actually in middle of making 15 new micro niche sites as well, maybe I will use UAW on those.

                Thank you very much for the suggestion
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                • Profile picture of the author dakar
                  Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                  I don't think UAW alone or combined with other commonly used links will get me to the number spot for a high competition keyword. UAW is probably best use on micro niche site with low competition. I am actually in middle of making 15 new micro niche sites as well, maybe I will use UAW on those.

                  Thank you very much for the suggestion
                  Not a problem
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                • Profile picture of the author Instantfruit
                  Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                  I don't think UAW alone or combined with other commonly used links will get me to the number spot for a high competition keyword. UAW is probably best use on micro niche site with low competition. I am actually in middle of making 15 new micro niche sites as well, maybe I will use UAW on those.

                  Thank you very much for the suggestion
                  Be carefull, I just had a niche site de-indexed due to too much UAW content. Google even kindly emailed me to explain it was my ****e content that caused the issue.

                  I've removed it all, but the site is still invisible.


                  EDIT: actually, just realised your thinking of punting your content via UAW, not using its content - which was what I was reffering too.
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          • Profile picture of the author steveshills
            Nest i just wanna say well done, i got a little confused as i thought you were using blogger blogs without a paid for domain, the reason your method works is that your not building sites based on keyword selection as such, your hitting the bullseye by ranking phases such as HOW TO BE A FULL TIME NURSE.

            I also think that google's not looking at your types of site's because you've built them far past the 4 pages that most other mfa sites have, and i'm not going to judge you because you've come here and shared your info for free, lisa at inline seo doe's the same, all in all well done.

            People come on here and shoot others down, the guys not selling some crap wso, just like when others say that autoblogs dont work, everything works once your willing to build it right, and everyones scared of the panda, adsense and affiliate marketing is no longer a safe business, its just like any other offline business and these are the risk we run when working for ourselves.

            Its time people on the warrior forum stop knocking others that are willing to share, after all the guys not ripping you off with a crap paid product is he.
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      • Profile picture of the author jwmann2
        Originally Posted by RyanLB View Post

        This. Just because your not actively targeting keywords doesn't mean that your not ranking for some. I would say, if anything, you are leaving money on the table by taking this approach.
        Well said. Ranking for keywords is free traffic via Google. By not targeting keywords, you're basically saying you're ok with only making $150 per month when you could potentially make $1500 per month with proper keyword targeting.
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  • Profile picture of the author bigcat1967
    Interesting. I'm creating a mega-site and am using KWs that ppl are using to get to my site...
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    • Profile picture of the author The Expert
      What is the purpose in using blogger? Isn't it true that anything blogger can do Wordpress can do better? It would seem that the only major benefit would be saving on hosting fees.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by bigcat1967 View Post

        Interesting. I'm creating a mega-site and am using KWs that ppl are using to get to my site...
        can't go wrong, even if your rankings drop you will still make money from those articles based on google analytics info

        Originally Posted by gtk29 View Post

        I had never thought of creating pages based on longtail search queries like this. I used small keywords in the title though. Your post has made me think into a new possibility of choosing titles. Thanks
        you welcome

        Originally Posted by The Expert View Post

        What is the purpose in using blogger? Isn't it true that anything blogger can do Wordpress can do better? It would seem that the only major benefit would be saving on hosting fees.
        Blogger just so happens to be the first blogging plate form I ever used, never used wordpress
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        • Profile picture of the author cashtree
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          can't go wrong, even if your rankings drop you will still make money from those articles based on google analytics info


          you welcome



          Blogger just so happens to be the first blogging plate form I ever used, never used wordpress
          wordpress is amazing, and incredibly easy you should consider it, it's of course free as well. My question is do you submit each article to social bookmark sites, or what? Also you write 75+ articles per site then just them sit or what? Or do you have to keep writing?
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

            wordpress is amazing, and incredibly easy you should consider it, it's of course free as well. My question is do you submit each article to social bookmark sites, or what? Also you write 75+ articles per site then just them sit or what? Or do you have to keep writing?
            I only backlink to the home page, the rest of the pages get indexed naturally. I kept meaning to try wordpress but never got around to it, I'm like a old man stuck in his ways afraid of change lol.

            Edit: Now that I think about it these posts get indexed in minutes, if the site is a couple months old.
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            • Profile picture of the author OnlineMkter
              haven't you tried affiliate products as well? May be earning better that adsence, as I have read a lot here where adsence earnings are low comparable, but of course it depends on the niche!
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            • Profile picture of the author cashtree
              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              I only backlink to the home page, the rest of the pages get indexed naturally. I kept meaning to try wordpress but never got around to it, I'm like a old man stuck in his ways afraid of change lol.

              Edit: Now that I think about it these posts get indexed in minutes, if the site is a couple months old.
              Wordpress has free plugins/widgets for just about everything, including SEO, and tons of free templates on their site to choose from that you can also legally remove backlink signature from. Google also seems to love word press too. If you need any help let me know, I can get you going.
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              • Profile picture of the author nest28
                Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

                Wordpress has free plugins/widgets for just about everything, including SEO, and tons of free templates on their site to choose from that you can also legally remove backlink signature from. Google also seems to love word press too. If you need any help let me know, I can get you going.
                Thank you , I'm so behind the time I just did meta tags for 20 article by hand earlier today, plz don't laugh
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                • Profile picture of the author John Wood
                  Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                  Thank you , I'm so behind the time I just did meta tags for 20 article by hand earlier today, plz don't laugh
                  Nothing wrong with been old school
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            • Profile picture of the author successproducts
              Stick to what works best for you. Too many thoughts ideas spoil it all. I thank you for your post first of all. if you ever consider to let my software to help you write quality articles yes I do mean quality ... use my software ...

              My software uses PLR which most of us have -- gathering some kind of dirts somewhere in our hard drive, and yest to use it to rewrite by putting them together by keywords. The idea is of super spun is. Super spun is the method to write one sentence in 10 different ways, 10 paragraphs in 10 different ways and let the power of permutations take over.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Originally Posted by The Expert View Post

        What is the purpose in using blogger? Isn't it true that anything blogger can do Wordpress can do better? It would seem that the only major benefit would be saving on hosting fees.
        Why would you think that? Don't you read this forum? People come
        here to fix something on wordpress...

        Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
        EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
        do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
        anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
        for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
        less. They own the blogging niche.

        Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
        they do the opposite of what MS does.

        With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
        ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
        in the top 5.

        The revelation from this thread should be why would
        people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
        is a goldmine....

        Paul
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Why would you think that? Don't you read this forum? People come
          here to fix something on wordpress...

          Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
          EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
          do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
          anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
          for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
          less. They own the blogging niche.

          Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
          they do the opposite of what MS does.

          With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
          ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
          in the top 5.

          The revelation from this thread should be why would
          people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
          is a goldmine....

          Paul
          I totally agree
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        • Profile picture of the author Hydraman
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Why would you think that? Don't you read this forum? People come
          here to fix something on wordpress...

          Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
          EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
          do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
          anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
          for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
          less. They own the blogging niche.

          Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
          they do the opposite of what MS does.

          With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
          ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
          in the top 5.

          The revelation from this thread should be why would
          people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
          is a goldmine....

          Paul
          Very interesting!
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        • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Why would you think that? Don't you read this forum? People come
          here to fix something on wordpress...

          Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
          EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
          do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
          anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
          for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
          less. They own the blogging niche.

          Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
          they do the opposite of what MS does.

          With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
          ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
          in the top 5.

          The revelation from this thread should be why would
          people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
          is a goldmine....

          Paul
          because you are subject to their rules, (read Google) and they could shut your site down with a snap of a finger.

          When you register your own domain, acquire hosting, and install WordPress on it, then that's YOUR virtual real estate, not Google's. You now have an investment, that you can turn around and sell later on if you wish, for huge sums of money.


          Don't ever rely on third-parties for your business. I'm sorry, but it's not very smart.

          To the OP, I hope you are backing up your sites somehow (export function?)

          do it now, before they decide to shut you down for some perceived violation.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by Karen Blundell View Post

            because you are subject to their rules, (read Google) and they could shut your site down with a snap of a finger.

            When you register your own domain, acquire hosting, and install WordPress on it, then that's YOUR virtual real estate, not Google's. You now have an investment, that you can turn around and sell later on if you wish, for huge sums of money.


            Don't ever rely on third-parties for your business. I'm sorry, but it's not very smart.

            To the OP, I hope you are backing up your sites somehow (export function?)

            do it now, before they decide to shut you down for some perceived violation.
            All of my blogs are backed up using export blog feature. I figure if anything happen I could import my blogs to wordpress and 301 redirect my old site to the new wordpress sites, in the event that google closes my blogger account.

            I'll probably make this new site on wordpress.
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            • Profile picture of the author mosthost
              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              All of my blogs are backed up using export blog feature. I figure if anything happen I could import my blogs to wordpress and 301 redirect my old site to the new wordpress sites, in the event that google closes my blogger account.

              I'll probably make this new site on wordpress.
              I don't see any great danger in using Blogspot for the reason you suggested.

              BTW, Wordpress.com also has free blogs that you can use before deciding if you want to commit to additional hosting.

              You should also consider website builders for websites where you don't plan on updating forever. They're easy to learn to use for anyone and very search engine friendly.
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        • Profile picture of the author rvillanu4
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Why would you think that? Don't you read this forum? People come
          here to fix something on wordpress...

          Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
          EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
          do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
          anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
          for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
          less. They own the blogging niche.

          Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
          they do the opposite of what MS does.

          With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
          ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
          in the top 5.

          The revelation from this thread should be why would
          people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
          is a goldmine....

          Paul
          Sorry for responding to this old posts. I created a blog under wordpress.com and was disappointed. Blogger, in my opinion is better. I'm sort of a newbie so when I was trying to place Adsense code into wordpress, it wouldn't let me (maybe I need plugins - don't know) so I am back to using Blogger.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rockerpreneur
          Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
          EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
          do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
          anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
          for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
          less. They own the blogging niche.

          Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
          they do the opposite of what MS does.

          With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
          ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
          in the top 5.

          The revelation from this thread should be why would
          people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
          is a goldmine....

          Paul[/QUOTE]

          Thank you for this post!
          Now I'm thinking about using Wordpress ONLY to build a site that I'm prepare to sell (because this is what they want). But change to using Blogger for a site that I keep for myself Now I need to learn more about Blogger.
          Thank you also for nest28 for sharing your success.
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        • Profile picture of the author AndreAyton
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Why would you think that? Don't you read this forum? People come
          here to fix something on wordpress...

          Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
          EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
          do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
          anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
          for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
          less. They own the blogging niche.

          Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
          they do the opposite of what MS does.

          With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
          ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
          in the top 5.

          The revelation from this thread should be why would
          people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
          is a goldmine....

          Paul
          Exactly what i was thinking
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  • Profile picture of the author gtk29
    I had never thought of creating pages based on longtail search queries like this. I used small keywords in the title though. Your post has made me think into a new possibility of choosing titles. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author ishuvonet
    Well thanks for sharing your method as a few successful people in adsense hardly like to share their secret sauce.As far your method concern I like it.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by OnlineMkter View Post

      haven't you tried affiliate products as well? May be earning better that adsence, as I have read a lot here where adsence earnings are low comparable, but of course it depends on the niche!
      There are a million ways to make money online and I have chosen mine. Some niches pay only a few cents , so its best to stick with high paying ones. If I had my way all my sites would be about dragon ball z my fav cartoon btw.



      Originally Posted by ishuvonet View Post

      Well thanks for sharing your method as a few successful people in adsense hardly like to share their secret sauce.As far your method concern I like it.
      Its enough room for everybody, and with this method I don't have to worry about somebody coming along and knocking me out of the number one spot because I wasn't there to begin with. Glad you like
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  • Profile picture of the author febbelli
    great thread, lots of useful info here! how many exact searches / month would you say the long tails keywords you target get?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by febbelli View Post

      great thread, lots of useful info here! how many exact searches / month would you say the long tails keywords you target get?
      well at first I rank the site using all of the easiest keywords I can find, normally these keywords will be between 200 and 600 searches a month. Once the site starts getting visitors I check analytics and see what people type in to get to my site , after that I use those search terms as title and articles. The beauty of that is your actually making a site that google will love because it's for people. I simply answer my visitors questions.
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        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        well at first I rank the site using all of the easiest keywords I can find, normally these keywords will be between 200 and 600 searches a month. Once the site starts getting visitors I check analytics and see what people type in to get to my site , after that I use those search terms as title and articles. The beauty of that is your actually making a site that google will love because it's for people. I simply answer my visitors questions.

        I usually stay out of these types of threads because they often turn into pissing matches, but, I wanted to say that I think it is sad that several of the people above have given you such a hard time about the method that you posted.

        I earn thousands of dollars a month from adsense and have first hand experience with doing exactly what you have laid out here, and it does work. Not only that, but it works very well. You have highlighted a method that anyone can get started with, requires very little experience or start-up money and can get you turning a profit very quickly.

        While I tend to chase a lot of higher competition search terms, even to this day I write articles based on longtail search terms that people are using to find the my websites naturally. If people aren't chasing those longtails that are referring them traffic, they are missing out on a lot of opportunities to increase their earnings.

        Anyways, thank you for taking the time to share this information with others. Especially at a time when so many people are in panic about seo, etc. If nothing else, hopefully it will get a few people looking at new ways to increase their traffic and their adsense earnings.

        P.S.

        I recommend Clicky Analytics for tracking visitors and getting a good analysis of the longtail terms that people are using to find their sites:

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  • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
    So initially how many posts do you put on your site and which keywords do you use for these posts to start seeing those long tails to make new posts on?

    Is it your homepage the page that ranks for those super lon tail kws and then you make a post using that keyword so then that internal page and homepage both rank for that term?

    If I'm missing something here can you elaborate on how you set up your sites?
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    • Profile picture of the author Spectresoft
      Very interesting! Would you mind telling us what your average post length is, in words?

      Awesome thread btw and congratulations.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

      So initially how many posts do you put on your site and which keywords do you use for these posts to start seeing those long tails to make new posts on?

      Is it your homepage the page that ranks for those super lon tail kws and then you make a post using that keyword so then that internal page and homepage both rank for that term?

      If I'm missing something here can you elaborate on how you set up your sites?
      I start each site with 20 pages not including contact,privacy and about us page. Most people will start there site off with keywords that have a local search count of 1000 or higher but I have found the higher the local search the higher the competition will be. So I go after a bunch of keywords that have 290, 380,560 you know the ones you filter out in micro niche finder because the search count is to low. They are really is to get traffic, it only takes my site 20 visitors a day to start making money.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by Spectresoft View Post

        Very interesting! Would you mind telling us what your average post length is, in words?

        Awesome thread btw and congratulations.
        thank you, 400 words sometimes 500

        Originally Posted by patrich View Post

        I usually stay out of these types of threads because they often turn into pissing matches, but, I wanted to say that I think it is sad that several of the people above have given you such a hard time about the method that you posted.

        I earn thousands of dollars a month from adsense and have first hand experience with doing exactly what you have laid out here, and it does work. Not only that, but it works very well. You have highlighted a method that anyone can get started with, requires very little experience or start-up money and can get you turning a profit very quickly.

        While I tend to chase a lot of higher competition search terms, even to this day I write articles based on longtail search terms that people are using to find the my websites naturally. If people aren't chasing those longtails that are referring them traffic, they are missing out on a lot of opportunities to increase their earnings.

        Anyways, thank you for taking the time to share this information with others. Especially at a time when so many people are in panic about seo, etc. If nothing else, hopefully it will get a few people looking at new ways to increase their traffic and their adsense earnings.

        P.S.

        I recommend Clicky Analytics for tracking visitors and getting a good analysis of the longtail terms that people are using to find their sites:

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      • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I start each site with 20 pages not including contact,privacy and about us page. Most people will start there site off with keywords that have a local search count of 1000 or higher but I have found the higher the local search the higher the competition will be. So I go after a bunch of keywords that have 290, 380,560 you know the ones you filter out in micro niche finder because the search count is to low. They are really is to get traffic, it only takes my site 20 visitors a day to start making money.
        Thanks for that info and continued success. I did have a few more questions if you don't mind.

        So from these first 20 low hanging fruit keywords do you take 1 and use that as the exact match domain name?

        Do you pick at random one of these kws to get a domain or you use the one with highest search volume from the first 20?

        Also once your site is up with these 20 posts the traffic you initially get is that coming from the homepage mostly or do you get some of these internal pages ranking on first page for these long tail keywords?

        Do you have like just a static homepage with 1 post that matches the domain keyword anf have links on there to all your internal pages or do you have like 10-15 posts all on the homepage and just backlink the homepage url with a mix of anchor text of your keywords?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by imwantob View Post

          WOW !!! Great thread - thank you so much for sharing your experience with us. As soon as I finish this post I'm going to look into a Blogger acct.
          Your welcome good luck

          Originally Posted by carlhenson View Post

          That is good. You didn't intentionally rank for specific keywords but instead you ranked for it.
          It actually all happen by accident , I was just trying to follow x-factors authority site model and found that these large sites can make money without even ranking on first page

          Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

          Thanks for that info and continued success. I did have a few more questions if you don't mind.

          So from these first 20 low hanging fruit keywords do you take 1 and use that as the exact match domain name?

          Do you pick at random one of these kws to get a domain or you use the one with highest search volume from the first 20?

          Also once your site is up with these 20 posts the traffic you initially get is that coming from the homepage mostly or do you get some of these internal pages ranking on first page for these long tail keywords?

          Do you have like just a static homepage with 1 post that matches the domain keyword anf have links on there to all your internal pages or do you have like 10-15 posts all on the homepage and just backlink the homepage url with a mix of anchor text of your keywords?
          Sometimes I will pick the keyword with the highest search while other times I will make it a vague domain name, like so you want to be a nurse.com or nursing information.com. My home pages normally has 5 to 7 posts. Most of my traffic lands on inner pages not the home page.

          Feel free to ask all the questions you want, I may have a few myself lol I am also here to learn.
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          • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            Your welcome good luck


            It actually all happen by accident , I was just trying to follow x-factors authority site model and found that these large sites can make money without even ranking on first page



            Sometimes I will pick the keyword with the highest search while other times I will make it a vague domain name, like so you want to be a nurse.com or nursing information.com. My home pages normally has 5 to 7 posts. Most of my traffic lands on inner pages not the home page.

            Feel free to ask all the questions you want, I may have a few myself lol I am also here to learn.
            When doing your backlinking do you just build backlinks to the homepage or the internal pages as well?

            Do you just use the a mix of the 20 or so keywords that you have posts on as far as anchor texts for your backlinks?

            Also do you bother with checking the competition at all say in MNF (if keywords have SOC of under 50) even when exact match search volumes are like 200-300/month or it doesn't matter with your method?
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by Innovator3 View Post

              That's quite a number of pages. When you're building these sites, where do you get the content from?

              Also, how do you determine which keywords or google adsense ads will pay the most? I have a number of adsense ads on some of my pages and they'll pay anywhere between $.10 to $1 per click. How can I increase the dollar amount or improve my adsense income?
              I used to check spyfu or micro niche finder to see how much a keyword pays but now all I do is stay in high paying niches, I don't even check anymore.
              I get my articles from The Content Authority .

              Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

              When doing your backlinking do you just build backlinks to the homepage or the internal pages as well?

              Do you just use the a mix of the 20 or so keywords that you have posts on as far as anchor texts for your backlinks?

              Also do you bother with checking the competition at all say in MNF (if keywords have SOC of under 50) even when exact match search volumes are like 200-300/month or it doesn't matter with your method?
              I usually backlink to the homepage but sometimes to the inner pages as well. Yes I use the 20 keywords as anchor text plus variations of those words.
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              • Profile picture of the author Innovator3
                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                I used to check spyfu or micro niche finder to see how much a keyword pays but now all I do is stay in high paying niches, I don't even check anymore.
                I get my articles from The Content Authority .
                Thanks for the quick response and the info. When you say "all I do is stay in high paying niches," how do you find out which ones those are?
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              • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

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                I usually backlink to the homepage but sometimes to the inner pages as well. Yes I use the 20 keywords as anchor text plus variations of those words.
                What about keyword competition? Do you focus on that for these first 20 keywords or not necessary since search volume is low?

                Also I assume you are working with "exact" match search volume and not broad or phrase correct?
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                  Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

                  What about keyword competition? Do you focus on that for these first 20 keywords or not necessary since search volume is low?

                  Also I assume you are working with "exact" match search volume and not broad or phrase correct?
                  There's really no competition for the first 20 keyword because of the low local search, and yes this is based on exact match
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      Originally Posted by jeffduhon View Post

      Congrats on the success.
      Thanx, there were many times I was about to quit and few times I did.
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  • Profile picture of the author imwantob
    WOW !!! Great thread - thank you so much for sharing your experience with us. As soon as I finish this post I'm going to look into a Blogger acct.
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  • Profile picture of the author carlhenson
    That is good. You didn't intentionally rank for specific keywords but instead you ranked for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Innovator3
    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

    The only thing I do to make a site is search for a medical career, research what kind of degrees and training is required , think of a bunch of questions I can write about and that's it. Each site is 75 to 100 pages.

    That's quite a number of pages. When you're building these sites, where do you get the content from?

    Also, how do you determine which keywords or google adsense ads will pay the most? I have a number of adsense ads on some of my pages and they'll pay anywhere between $.10 to $1 per click. How can I increase the dollar amount or improve my adsense income?
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Also it does not take a hundred pages to make money I make around 30 dollars a month with site that have 25 to 40 ages but once I build them out they make more.
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    • Profile picture of the author kiwiviktor81
      So is $1 per page per month a pretty acurrate metric for you? Thanks for this info, I have a health site doing that and I figure it could be an earner if I went from its current 30 pages to 100+.
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  • Profile picture of the author Innovator3
    Interesting list you got there. This may seem redundant for me to ask, but that you typed out... how did you find out those are high paying niches? Are you doing research using Google's keyword tool, or another software, website, etc to find out which keywords and niches are the high paying ones?
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    That list essentially useless now but yeah how do youfind these high paying, low competition?
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  • Profile picture of the author StoneWilson
    For me the main problem is where can I find 10 beneficial niches and 100+ quality articles to post on them. And how long will it take to get 100+ visitors for each blog? Because according to personal experience, for those niches which got high click price, longtail keywords are also very competitive.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

      That list essentially useless now but yeah how do youfind these high paying, low competition?
      the keywords in the list will lead you to other keywords if you put them in micro niche finder or any keyword tool.

      Originally Posted by StoneWilson View Post

      For me the main problem is where can I find 10 beneficial niches and 100+ quality articles to post on them. And how long will it take to get 100+ visitors for each blog? Because according to personal experience, for those niches which got high click price, longtail keywords are also very competitive.
      The long tail traffic you will get wont be listed in any keyword tool so there wont be competition , I will copy and paste search terms from my own site to show you what I mean In the morning.
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  • Profile picture of the author DPM70
    Great post nest28. I'm interested in any system that targets the long tails and doesn't worry too much about chasing down specific keywords. Way too much time is wasted on ranking one or two phrases, in my opinion, when good content - and lots of it - will grow nice, sustainable traffic over time. You also don't risk the wrath of Google with over-zealous backlinking methods. Good job!
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by DPM70 View Post

      Great post nest28. I'm interested in any system that targets the long tails and doesn't worry too much about chasing down specific keywords. Way too much time is wasted on ranking one or two phrases, in my opinion, when good content - and lots of it - will grow nice, sustainable traffic over time. You also don't risk the wrath of Google with over-zealous backlinking methods. Good job!
      yes exactly, and if you get a manual review I don't think you will have anything to worry about with a 100 page site that does nothing but deliver information that your visitors are searching for.
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      Originally Posted by DPM70 View Post

      Great post nest28. I'm interested in any system that targets the long tails and doesn't worry too much about chasing down specific keywords. Way too much time is wasted on ranking one or two phrases, in my opinion, when good content - and lots of it - will grow nice, sustainable traffic over time. You also don't risk the wrath of Google with over-zealous backlinking methods. Good job!
      ^^^^ this.

      I am also thinking we should end this conversation now :-) ! But OP is right, most people are too lazy to write this much content, or can't because they don't have the necessary abilities or budget.
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        Originally Posted by markowe View Post

        ^^^^ this.

        I am also thinking we should end this conversation now :-) ! But OP is right, most people are too lazy to write this much content, or can't because they don't have the necessary abilities or budget.
        Then I guess content curation is a good option to take.
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    so how much cost you to have an websites with 100 pages?
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      I want to know this also.

      Originally Posted by unikbit View Post

      so how much cost you to have an websites with 100 pages?
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by unikbit View Post

        so how much cost you to have an websites with 100 pages?
        Most imer's wont like this price tag but 400, that is using the content authority , is you use fiverr or odesk I'm sure those costs can be cut in half. Also I don't pay all at once I add content little at a time say 20 pages a month.

        Originally Posted by FridaK View Post

        Very inspirational. How do you organize rubrics in your website? I mean, if you answer many useful questions, how do your visitors navigate through your page to find what they are looking for?
        I normally set up my sites as such ...

        career salary training schools questions about us contact privacy

        in that order, people normally only stay to read the answer to their first question, but time on site, for all my blogs is 2 min
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        • Profile picture of the author febbelli
          I really like this thread, and I've tried to rank really low comp long tail keywords in the past but found that the traffic just wasn't there. I just don't understand how you get the traffic ranking terms with such low search volume. Like you mentioned looking at your analytics acct to see what people are searching to to get to your site, and then you make a post on that. What I don't get is if these people get to your site already searching that term why make another post on it? sorry if this in confusing. If you could elaborate a little more on how you find these long tail terms or how many searches they get if any that would be great. Great post with lots of good information and tips, thanks !
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by febbelli View Post

            I really like this thread, and I've tried to rank really low comp long tail keywords in the past but found that the traffic just wasn't there. I just don't understand how you get the traffic ranking terms with such low search volume. Like you mentioned looking at your analytics acct to see what people are searching to to get to your site, and then you make a post on that. What I don't get is if these people get to your site already searching that term why make another post on it? sorry if this in confusing. If you could elaborate a little more on how you find these long tail terms or how many searches they get if any that would be great. Great post with lots of good information and tips, thanks !
            Ok here is a prime example of why I make a whole article on the subject, I had a article that mention having a g.e.d. but still being able to become a nurse. So there would be a few visitors who would get to my site by typing in can I become a nurse with a g.e.d. but once a made a article on the subject I started to receive more traffic. The difference in traffic is not much probably go from 2 visitors a day from that term to 12 . Now that I think about it even tho they land on inner pages most of my money comes from adsense placed in side bar on homepage. The rest comes from articles based on schools or salary.
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    Very inspirational. How do you organize rubrics in your website? I mean, if you answer many useful questions, how do your visitors navigate through your page to find what they are looking for?
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Here are some search terms from google analytics, I going replace my keyword with the word nurse


    how can i become a nurse with a bs in health science?
    how can i get my nurse
    how can technology change a nurse job?\
    how can you become an nurse after you are an nurse
    how do i become a nurse specialist in sf ca
    how do i find a nurse associates degree program accredited
    how do i find out if they did my nurse test correctly
    how do i get my nurse certificate ri
    how do technicians read reports
    how do nurse math
    how do nurses service people?
    how do nurses use algebra
    how do nurses work with waves?
    how do nurse differ from other imaging machines
    how do waves relate to nurse
    how do you becom a tech in a hospital
    how do you like your job as an nurse
    how do you use math as an nurse
    how does being a nurse relate to waves?
    how does diagnosis benefit technology?
    how does it take to become nurse

    As you can see people always ask how can they do this , how can they do that. Here
    are some more examples.


    do you need experience to be a nurser
    do you need math for being an nurse
    do you need math for nurse assistant
    do you need math to be a nurse
    do you need to be good at maths to be a marketing manager
    do you need to be licensed to be an nurse
    do you need to go to college to become a nurse
    do you need to know a lot of math to become an nurse?
    do you study math to be a nurse
    do yu have to do math being a nurse tech

    Looking at these terms I'm guessing it would be a good idea to make a article -Do I have to be good at math to become a nurse, your post title should be as close to the terms as possible and the article should answer this question.





    high school classes for nurse
    high school classes needed for a nurse
    high school classes needed for becoming a nurse
    high school classes required for nurse
    high school classes to take for nurse
    high school classes to take if becoming nurse
    high school courses needed to be an nurse
    high school courses needed to be nurse
    high school courses to become a nurse
    high school degree want to study nursing in nyc
    high school subjects needed for nursing



    hospital job for nurse in center city
    hospital technician training slary
    hospital nurse jobs
    hospitals that train technicians
    hospitals that will train you to be a great nurse

    None of these terms can be found in any keyword tool but these searches do exist and if you make articles based on these long tail searches you will get visitors to these articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author thatkeywordguy
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      Here are some search terms from google analytics, I going replace my keyword with the word nurse

      how can i become a nurse with a bs in health science?
      how can i get my nurse
      how can technology change a nurse job?
      how can you become an nurse after you are an nurse
      how do i become a nurse specialist in sf ca
      how do i find a nurse associates degree program accredited
      how do i find out if they did my nurse test correctly
      how do i get my nurse certificate ri
      how do technicians read reports
      how do nurse math
      how do nurses service people?
      how do nurses use algebra
      how do nurses work with waves?
      how do nurse differ from other imaging machines
      how do waves relate to nurse
      how do you becom a tech in a hospital
      how do you like your job as an nurse
      how do you use math as an nurse
      how does being a nurse relate to waves?
      how does diagnosis benefit technology?
      how does it take to become nurse
      do you need experience to be a nurser
      do you need math for being an nurse
      do you need math for nurse assistant
      do you need math to be a nurse
      do you need to be good at maths to be a marketing manager
      do you need to be licensed to be an nurse
      do you need to go to college to become a nurse
      do you need to know a lot of math to become an nurse?
      do you study math to be a nurse
      do yu have to do math being a nurse tech
      high school classes for nurse
      high school classes needed for a nurse
      high school classes needed for becoming a nurse
      high school classes required for nurse
      high school classes to take for nurse
      high school classes to take if becoming nurse
      high school courses needed to be an nurse
      high school courses needed to be nurse
      high school courses to become a nurse
      high school degree want to study nursing in nyc
      high school subjects needed for nursing
      hospital job for nurse in center city
      hospital technician training slary
      hospital nurse jobs
      hospitals that train technicians
      hospitals that will train you to be a great nurse

      None of these terms can be found in any keyword tool but these searches do exist and if you make articles based on these long tail searches you will get visitors to these articles.
      ok cool

      so above are some examples from the previous page of the thread.

      You mentioned that these can't be found in a keyword tool but I think mine can find some of them.

      you'd just have to type in words like this into the tool:

      how * nurse
      how * nursing
      do * a nurse
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        Originally Posted by thatkeywordguy View Post

        ok cool

        so above are some examples from the previous page of the thread.

        You mentioned that these can't be found in a keyword tool but I think mine can find some of them.

        you'd just have to type in words like this into the tool:

        how * nurse
        how * nursing
        do * a nurse
        1.keyword tool
        2.ask.com
        3.yahoo answers
        4.google analytics

        After using all of the above tools everyone should be able to find long tail keywords or questions centered around your niche.
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          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          1.keyword tool
          2.ask.com
          3.yahoo answers
          4.google analytics

          After using all of the above tools everyone should be able to find long tail keywords or questions centered around your niche.
          Thanks Ernest. Great list. I have another question about your sample site (thepsychiatricnursepractitioner)

          1) Why did you decide to use the same H1 tag throughout the site?
          Why would you not make the H1 tag the same as the title tag on each question/page.

          2) Would the results be any different if you used the H1 tag as the title?

          Thanks
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by dakar View Post

            Thanks Ernest. Great list. I have another question about your sample site (thepsychiatricnursepractitioner)

            1) Why did you decide to use the same H1 tag throughout the site?
            Why would you not make the H1 tag the same as the title tag on each question/page.

            2) Would the results be any different if you used the H1 tag as the title?

            Thanks
            I'm not done with seo or appearance of the site, in fact I'm waiting till warriors stop visiting to change the template build site out and add adsense. I didn't care about this site at first that's why I used in it as a example but now I kinda like it lol.
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            • Profile picture of the author dakar
              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              I'm not done with seo or appearance of the site, in fact I'm waiting till warriors stop visiting to change the template build site out and add adsense. I didn't care about this site at first that's why I used in it as a example but now I kinda like it lol.
              i see. thanks. so when you eventually customize it the way you want, would you always have the H1 tag be the title of the page?
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  • Profile picture of the author cmorrow
    @NETST28 Thanks for the post and being open

    How long does it usually take to rank for the really long tail keywords low competition I have a few i want to target that per google adwords they bring in 10,000 vistors a month per long tail keyword.

    If your launching one of these niche blog sites for seo whats some action steps to take
    backlinks for home page
    articles
    xml site map ??

    Thanks again
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  • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
    When you first launch a site do you have all 20 posts up or do you have maybe half up and then drip feed the rest over the first month and then another 20 over the next month and so on?
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  • Profile picture of the author DarrenHaynes
    Great to read this thread, and how you are answering everyone's questions. It is a solid plan you got going. I make a full time living from adsense, but have always gone straight for ranking the 10,000 to 20,000 juicy keywords and then picking off the long tails in my analytics. I have one site that makes about 5k a month like this. However, I do get tired of the backlinking battles, and what to try some different methods, and yours looks great.

    I would never have considered using blogger before, but I am going to build a site or 2 based on what you are describing here.

    I have understood what you are saying here, but I have one question :-)

    What quality level article do you buy from the content authority?

    Oh, and did you outsource the lot, or write any your self? Personally I will be doing both, but am curious as to what you do.

    Also, do you add pics and / or vids to your posts or you stick with plain writing?
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    hey very cool. Yeah it's crazy how you read posts like this on the forum and you get all these users chime in on trying to talk a little smack and basically bash you for trying to give free info on getting decent adsense income.

    If those same people that complain about a method that works...would actually go out and spend time actually creating a site that made money...instead of denying it works..well then I think we would have a lot more happy IMers.

    BTW, this method works very well and will continue to work well simply because you're giving the user what they ask for...and google will reward you with that. No secret really.
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  • Profile picture of the author dminorfmajor
    Thanks for sharing man. It's the little things like using super long-tail keywords you find from analytics as post titles that most everyone wouldn't think of. Bravo sir.
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  • Profile picture of the author 9ball
    good thread,

    yes we can rank for many keywords, even without SEO. My friend know nothing about seo, he is blogging for fun and receive a lot of traffic. I ask him to put G analytics in his blog to track where are the visitors come from. Guess what? 80% is organic traffic from google without knowing & practicing seo
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  • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
    Any recommendations of a WP theme that is similar, clean, and easy to use like this one:

    TravelPro Blogger Template | Premium Blogger Templates|Blogspot Themes Live Demo From Premium Blogger Templates|Blogspot Themes

    Or can we install this on our own domain that has WP installed already?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by cmorrow View Post

      @NETST28 Thanks for the post and being open

      How long does it usually take to rank for the really long tail keywords low competition I have a few i want to target that per google adwords they bring in 10,000 vistors a month per long tail keyword.

      If your launching one of these niche blog sites for seo whats some action steps to take
      backlinks for home page
      articles
      xml site map ??

      Thanks again

      I have seen articles get index in a matter of minutes and start to bringing traffic right away.

      Wordpress has plug ins for meta tags but i do mine manually for the homepage and each article. this will put the blog post title first and the name of the blog second. I submit a site map to web master tools, and after that I post the articles that I outsource as soon as they are ready.


      Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

      When you first launch a site do you have all 20 posts up or do you have maybe half up and then drip feed the rest over the first month and then another 20 over the next month and so on?
      no particular order as soon as the articles are ready I post them

      Originally Posted by DarrenHaynes View Post

      Great to read this thread, and how you are answering everyone's questions. It is a solid plan you got going. I make a full time living from adsense, but have always gone straight for ranking the 10,000 to 20,000 juicy keywords and then picking off the long tails in my analytics. I have one site that makes about 5k a month like this. However, I do get tired of the backlinking battles, and what to try some different methods, and yours looks great.

      I would never have considered using blogger before, but I am going to build a site or 2 based on what you are describing here.

      I have understood what you are saying here, but I have one question :-)

      What quality level article do you buy from the content authority?

      Oh, and did you outsource the lot, or write any your self? Personally I will be doing both, but am curious as to what you do.

      Also, do you add pics and / or vids to your posts or you stick with plain writing?
      Congrats on your success'

      I out source all content, grammar has always been weakness for me.
      I will post a article that I paid for so you can judge the quality.
      And as for those backlinking battles you mention, I grew tired of them. One minute your number 1 than the next your 10, not to mention spending 10 to 20 percent of your profit on outsourcing backlinks.
      no pics except in the slider or header, because I embed adsense inside the content, normally thats were pics would go. I put one youtube video related to the blog topic in the sidebar along with a poll asking visitors questions about the video like was this video helpful,
      Originally Posted by tylerjaysen View Post

      hey very cool. Yeah it's crazy how you read posts like this on the forum and you get all these users chime in on trying to talk a little smack and basically bash you for trying to give free info on getting decent adsense income.

      If those same people that complain about a method that works...would actually go out and spend time actually creating a site that made money...instead of denying it works..well then I think we would have a lot more happy IMers.

      BTW, this method works very well and will continue to work well simply because you're giving the user what they ask for...and google will reward you with that. No secret really.
      Thank you, and yea the very first reply was some guy saying hey if this works why the hell are you sharing, I felt angry at first but than i just was like hey maybe this will help people reach their dreams of steady online income.

      Originally Posted by dminorfmajor View Post

      Thanks for sharing man. It's the little things like using super long-tail keywords you find from analytics as post titles that most everyone wouldn't think of. Bravo sir.
      thank you

      Originally Posted by NicheDad View Post

      If I were you I'd be using that method now to back up my blogs.
      I looking into it now

      Originally Posted by 9ball View Post

      good thread,

      yes we can rank for many keywords, even without SEO. My friend know nothing about seo, he is blogging for fun and receive a lot of traffic. I ask him to put G analytics in his blog to track where are the visitors come from. Guess what? 80% is organic traffic from google without knowing & practicing seo
      same here almost all traffic is from google, I think this is good for keeping your adsense account in good standing.

      Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

      Any recommendations of a WP theme that is similar, clean, and easy to use like this one:

      TravelPro Blogger Template | Premium Blogger Templates|Blogspot Themes Live Demo From Premium Blogger Templates|Blogspot Themes

      Or can we install this on our own domain that has WP installed already?
      well those template are wordpress clones for blogger so I imagine there should be free wordpress templates for you to use that look exactly the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsced
    I did the exact same thing with a natural remedies website and get all my traffic from long tail keywords. On average 300 visitors find the site through keywords I never try to rank for. If you have 80 - 100 articles on a site that are all related in some way then you pretty much have all of the keywords people search for in your content.

    It's easy to create a website this way and the work is far less since you have to do very little backlinking. Another positive aspect of this approach is that when you do decide to go after a competitive search term related to the other posts, you do not have to do as much backlinking to that keyword as Google already recognizes that your website centered around that niche.

    If it's adsense you are focusing on then you could write half decent articles that take 30 minutes to write. You could write 3 posts every day (1 1/2 hours) and have 90 articles written by the end of the month.

    These sites are best suited for adsense and opt-ins and after a couple of months Google will be very aware that your website is constantly updated and every post you write will be indexed within 30 minutes.
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    • Profile picture of the author dakar
      Originally Posted by retsced View Post

      I did the exact same thing with a natural remedies website and get all my traffic from long tail keywords. On average 300 visitors find the site through keywords I never try to rank for. If you have 80 - 100 articles on a site that are all related in some way then you pretty much have all of the keywords people search for in your content.

      It's easy to create a website this way and the work is far less since you have to do very little backlinking. Another positive aspect of this approach is that when you do decide to go after a competitive search term related to the other posts, you do not have to do as much backlinking to that keyword as Google already recognizes that your website centered around that niche.

      If it's adsense you are focusing on then you could write half decent articles that take 30 minutes to write. You could write 3 posts every day (1 1/2 hours) and have 90 articles written by the end of the month.

      These sites are best suited for adsense and opt-ins and after a couple of months Google will be very aware that your website is constantly updated and every post you write will be indexed within 30 minutes.
      Correct me if I'm wrong,

      But if you are trying to write articles for a niche that you know nothing about, a 500 word article is surely going to take more time than 30 minutes to complete. Don't you need to do your research on the subject first? That alone could take a few hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author CesarWarrior
    so does your sites have over a 100 pages or is it over a 100 posts? do you place each post on a seperate page? Thanks for sharing BTW
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  • Profile picture of the author warriortrades
    Thanks for the information. I run a website where I offer a paid service to traders and investors. This info will come in handy as I try to generate traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Here is a sample of a article I had written by the content authority about my fav show the a-team. This was from my netflix affiliate days.



    The Rise And Fall Of The A-Team

    The A-team TV show, which made its debut on January 30th, 1983, was an immediate hit. It ran right after Super Bowl XVII, and because of this was viewed by more than 25% of the TV watching audience. The show was written by Frank Lupo, produced by Stephen Cannel and ran for five seasons on the NBC television network.

    The show was based around a four-man team of ex-Vietnam Veterans, who were on the run from the military for a crime they did not commit.The cast consisted primarily of George Peppard as John Smith, Mr. T as B.A. Baracus, Dirk Benedict as Templeton Peck and Dwight Schultz as Howling Mad Murdock. It quickly became evident that the program was in for a lucrative run.

    Aside from the team's constant objective of clearing their names, the show was without a long-term plot and was criticized by some as being overly violent and sexist. Neither of these arguments was without validity either, since a typical episode contained nearly fifty acts of violence and had only two permanent female roles. In fact, Melinda Culea”one of the show's two regular actresses”was fired in the second season after disagreements arose between her and the show's writers.

    The criticism, legitimate or not, did little if any damage to the program's fan base, and popular catch phrases from the show ended up on a wide variety of merchandise. Among these zingers, was George Peppard's, I love it when a plan comes together, which occurred in every episode and Mr. T's I aint gettin' on no plane! Not to mention Hannibal's on the jazz, another unforgettable B.A. Baracus one-liner.

    The program enjoyed 97 episodes and featured an array of notable guest stars. Among these were Boy George, Isaac Hayes, Rick James, Hulk Hogan and even legendary football quarterback Joe Nameth. Despite the show's initial success, people began tuning out in the fourth season. Efforts to revamp the series were made in the fifth season when the A-team were finally apprehended by the military police and forced into indenture. But this was to no avail, and for all intents and purposes, The A-team was finished, airing its last episode on March 8th, 1987.

    Nonetheless, The A-team had a long and successful run, lasting five years, five seasons and 97 episodes. One could only describe the A-team as iconic. the A-team TV show was adored by many, chastised by some and has earned its place in history as a pop-culture phenomenon.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cade21
      Thank you for this exceptional post. Very unselfish. I enjoy your desire to help and your unassuming manner. I'm sorry you had to put up with some asinine criticism.

      Good luck the rest of the way. I hope you make a million dollars.
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    that is a great strategy you have come up with
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Cade21 View Post

      Thank you for this exceptional post. Very unselfish. I enjoy your desire to help and your unassuming manner. I'm sorry you had to put up with some asinine criticism.

      Good luck the rest of the way. I hope you make a million dollars.
      Thank you

      Originally Posted by glock67 View Post

      that is a great strategy you have come up with
      Thanx I'm sure there are plenty of others doing it also
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  • Profile picture of the author lexionar
    I heard curating content with some long tail title can give more robust ranking even without any backlinking, anybody have any experience with this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Instantfruit
    Fantastic thread and great inspiration.

    I am still messing about with micro niche sites, but there is plenty here that i feel i could adopt to my biz model.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Instantfruit View Post

      Fantastic thread and great inspiration.

      I am still messing about with micro niche sites, but there is plenty here that i feel i could adopt to my biz model.

      Thanks
      I'm actually about to hop on the micro niche bandwagon myself, I was in the middle of searching for easy keywords when micro niche finder stop working.
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  • Profile picture of the author lazydaisy
    Hi Nest28, Thank you for sharing that information with us, It's an inspiration to know that with a little hard work someone could still make some money to pay bills or have a little extra income monthly.

    How long does it normally take you to rank, lets say with the 20 articles at the beginning and see some income?

    Thanks again
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  • Profile picture of the author Roma
    I love the travel theme. Well done to you!
    Thanks for sharing - people doing well is always great motivation.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Roma View Post

      I love the travel theme. Well done to you!
      Thanks for sharing - people doing well is always great motivation.
      That travel theme is not mine that template come like that ,feel free to browse premium blogger templates I like to keep all my templates blue and white.

      here is good theme for medical ,of course I will change the pics in the slider and navigation but its perfect for that niche, make the adsense the same color blue as the template
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    What content quality do you purchase from The Content Authority? Basic, great, excellent or expert?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by kiwiviktor81 View Post

      So is $1 per page per month a pretty acurrate metric for you? Thanks for this info, I have a health site doing that and I figure it could be an earner if I went from its current 30 pages to 100+.
      I believe this can be done with less content, I'm currently making a site with no intentional keywords meaning all articles will be questions and answers type . but I plan on making this site only fifty pages

      Originally Posted by lazydaisy View Post

      Hi Nest28, Thank you for sharing that information with us, It's an inspiration to know that with a little hard work someone could still make some money to pay bills or have a little extra income monthly.

      How long does it normally take you to rank, lets say with the 20 articles at the beginning and see some income?

      Thanks again
      anywhere from 3 weeks to 6 weeks, I have a site rite now that is 2 months old with 20 pages that just wont stop bouncing around for some reason, never had that happen I'm going to add 40 pages and see what happens

      Originally Posted by Roma View Post

      I love the travel theme. Well done to you!
      Thanks for sharing - people doing well is always great motivation.
      Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

      What content quality do you purchase from The Content Authority? Basic, great, excellent or expert?
      always basic my friend the cheaper the better lol, here are couple good writers that I trust

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  • Profile picture of the author Eldon
    This is an awesome thread. Thank you for posting it. As a complete Newbie and still trying to figure out what the heck a lot of this means, I need to go back through and study more closely. But I think I do see some potential here for a noob. I have yet to see any money on IM even though I know there is huge potential - just need to figure it out. Once again, thank you..
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      Originally Posted by afme View Post

      This is an awesome thread. Thank you for posting it. As a complete Newbie and still trying to figure out what the heck a lot of this means, I need to go back through and study more closely. But I think I do see some potential here for a noob. I have yet to see any money on IM even though I know there is huge potential - just need to figure it out. Once again, thank you..
      if you need help I have free time on my hands
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    Great job explaining your successful method. I have several Adsense sites & make a residual $300-400 per month with them. They are all micro niche sites inspired by XFactor. When I find the time & money, I definitely want to give your method a shot. I even have a stagnant site that would work well with this method. A very high paying niche - $7+ CPC.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

      Great job explaining your successful method. I have several Adsense sites & make a residual $300-400 per month with them. They are all micro niche sites inspired by XFactor. When I find the time & money, I definitely want to give your method a shot. I even have a stagnant site that would work well with this method. A very high paying niche - $7+ CPC.
      The fact that you even get paid on a monthly basis from adsense means you are doing well. Please make some sacrifices and reinvest your profits back into the sites. I only had 310 a month from welfare to split between me and my son and I bought a domain name here and there and also content whenever I could and little by little my income increased to over 2, 000 a month.
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      • Profile picture of the author dakar
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        The fact that you even get paid on a monthly basis from adsense means you are doing well. Please make some sacrifices and reinvest your profits back into the sites. I only had 310 a month from welfare to split between me and my son and I bought a domain name here and there and also content whenever I could and little by little my income increased to over 2, 000 a month.
        First off, thanks for giving all of this information for free. I do believe your system works, as I also have an adsense site that makes quite a bit of money.
        The only problem I've encountered is that my adsense earnings fluctuate too much. On good months, I can make $7000. On another month it goes down to $1000. This is all from 1 site in 1 niche. But I'm sure its because the advertisement for these keywords goes up and down on adwords.

        My question for you :

        Since my monthly expenses are much more than $2000 a month, is your only focus now to come up with more and more sites? Is your goal to make more than $2000 a month? What's stopping you from making more than that? Do you see that as a possibility with this method?

        Thanks again
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by thatkeywordguy View Post

          Seems like a pretty classic straight-forward adsense-based approach - with an emphasis on Long Tails.

          Love it.

          Did you have any trouble with Panda though?
          I didn't eve know what panda was until people on warrior forum kept talking about it. The unnatural backlnks notice, people get banned from adsense, the big bmr thing was news to me. I never notice any of my sites take a hit from any update so far.

          Originally Posted by dakar View Post

          First off, thanks for giving all of this information for free. I do believe your system works, as I also have an adsense site that makes quite a bit of money.
          The only problem I've encountered is that my adsense earnings fluctuate too much. On good months, I can make $7000. On another month it goes down to $1000. This is all from 1 site in 1 niche. But I'm sure its because the advertisement for these keywords goes up and down on adwords.

          My question for you :

          Since my monthly expenses are much more than $2000 a month, is your only focus now to come up with more and more sites? Is your goal to make more than $2000 a month? What's stopping you from making more than that? Do you see that as a possibility with this method?

          Thanks again
          The only thing stopping me from making more money is me, I currently have 15 sites that all together make around 2,100 a month. I never wanted to have that many sites. If I make more sites I'm pretty sure I could double my income. The I went from 0 to 2000 a month thread has caught my eye and while I really don't like building small sites and doing more backlinking I will give that method a try.
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            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            I didn't eve know what panda was until people on warrior forum kept talking about it. The unnatural backlnks notice, people get banned from adsense, the big bmr thing was news to me. I never notice any of my sites take a hit from any update so far.



            The only thing stopping me from making more money is me, I currently have 15 sites that all together make around 2,100 a month. I never wanted to have that many sites. If I make more sites I'm pretty sure I could double my income. The I went from 0 to 2000 a month thread has caught my eye and while I really don't like building small sites and doing more backlinking I will give that method a try.

            Good explanation. I really like your method, and yours is the one that I think sparks my interest to spend serious time developing. The other thread that you mentioned is is very useful as well.
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            • Profile picture of the author strategia
              Originally Posted by dakar View Post

              Good explanation. I really like your method, and yours is the one that I think sparks my interest to spend serious time developing. The other thread that you mentioned is is very useful as well.
              Man, this is such a great thread and the kind of thing that lifts the heart. So different from all the hands in your pocket stuff that goes on around this forum. More power to the open and free exchange!

              I can't see what "the other thread" is... can you post it again please?
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              • Profile picture of the author nest28
                Originally Posted by Adevictus View Post

                So you plan on creating another site in the similar format?
                Yes, everything is done the same, I just wont be backlinking using spammy links. I' also paying closer attention to on site seo.

                Originally Posted by imlogic View Post

                anyone using adsense is crazy... especially on more than one site. You essentially give away your entire network and seo strategy.
                Tell that to all the guys out there making thousands of dollars from adsense. I also plan on using cpa offers as well.

                Originally Posted by aquarious44 View Post

                Varied and quality links are always the best way to go to minimize risk of penalty.
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                Yes, and I plan on getting just a few links from various sources, but not to many.
                Originally Posted by strategia View Post

                Man, this is such a great thread and the kind of thing that lifts the heart. So different from all the hands in your pocket stuff that goes on around this forum. More power to the open and free exchange!

                I can't see what "the other thread" is... can you post it again please?
                I guess he meant this thread.

                http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-part-2-a.html
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          Originally Posted by dakar View Post

          First off, thanks for giving all of this information for free.
          I'm sure somebody is in the process of turning this into an eBook as we speak. There will probably be a WSO for it on Monday.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by Tigrs84 View Post

            I'm sure somebody is in the process of turning this into an eBook as we speak. There will probably be a WSO for it on Monday.
            lol I wouldn't be surprised
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    What kinds of backlinking do you do to your main page?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

      What kinds of backlinking do you do to your main page?
      The usual suspects fiverr gigs ,article marking,forum profiles. It doesn't take much for these long tail articles to do well, if you put them in question form.

      I kept seeing "what high school classes to take if I want to become a nurse" so I made that the title of the post and since no one else had a article on the subject I easily became number 1 with no backlinks literally 2 mins after I posted it


      Edit; nurse is not my keyword it is just a example
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    Seems like a pretty classic straight-forward adsense-based approach - with an emphasis on Long Tails.

    Love it.

    Did you have any trouble with Panda though?
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    Thanks for your kind share
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Originally Posted by dakar View Post

    Good explanation. I really like your method, and yours is the one that I think sparks my interest to spend serious time developing. The other thread that you mentioned is is very useful as well.
    Actually I think using the method in the " i went from 0 to 2000 a month" should be phase 1, than phase 2 could be the long tail method.

    It is important to rank the site first, and start getting some kind of traffic after this is accomplished you can look at your google analytics so see how people found your site, than make articles out of that info.

    Remember not to make sites around products that will be outdated in a couple months or terms that you can't see potential for growth.


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    Thank you
    More to double your posts
    You welcome
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    Hi show an example of your site
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      Originally Posted by sadas View Post

      Hi show an example of your site
      I would love to but not sure thats a great idea.
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    One quick question. Do you put adsense ads in right away or wait until your site starts to get visitors? thanks
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      Originally Posted by UW View Post

      One quick question. Do you put adsense ads in right away or wait until your site starts to get visitors? thanks
      I wait until I start to see some sort of traffic.
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    ok thanks. How many visitors a day would make a site ready for adsense?
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      Originally Posted by UW View Post

      ok thanks. How many visitors a day would make a site ready for adsense?
      today a couple of my sites had less than 30 visitors but those sites made 1.94 and another I check made 3.45. All of my sites only receive 80 to 120 people a day but that's enough for them to make 100.00 or more a month.

      The lowest amount of visitors to make some kind of money in a niche that pays well should be around 20, if only one visitor clicks that might net you a couple dollars vs a low paying niche where you may only see a few cents.

      Edit: the 80 -120 ratio is only on week days, on the weekends my visitor ratio is more between 20 to 60 but I still do well.
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    ok i understand, thanks for the helpful info!
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    I am curious you have 15 sites, each site is 100 pages? and you outsource all the writing ? So each page is a post? or you make the posts into pages? How long did it take to make the 15 sites, Thank you
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      Originally Posted by UW View Post

      ok i understand, thanks for the helpful info!
      anytime

      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      I am curious you have 15 sites, each site is 100 pages? and you outsource all the writing ? So each page is a post? or you make the posts into pages? How long did it take to make the 15 sites, Thank you
      Yes each page is a post on blogger. Outsourced at the content authority. If you look at my writing on here I think it's safe to say I'm no writer lol. The first site is over a year old I had considered it a failure because I wanted to make a full time income from that one site. But than it hit me that hey this site makes money so in fact it is a success I than look for ways to duplicate my success that I had with my first site and that is how I came up with this long tail idea.

      Each site takes about 3 months to complete but they start to make money around the 5 week mark.
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    Hi Thanks for that
    If you say 400 per site is the cost, how much of that is the article writing? Thanks again, Congrats, I can write my own articles but not sure if I will
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      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      Hi Thanks for that
      If you say 400 per site is the cost, how much of that is the article writing? Thanks again, Congrats, I can write my own articles but not sure if I will
      You welcome, all of it goes to outsourcing articles. If I could write well this process would be much easier for me. Oh and 10 dollars for the domain name.
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        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        You welcome, all of it goes to outsourcing articles. If I could write well this process would be much easier for me. Oh and 10 dollars for the domain name.
        hmm ok i thought you used blogger.com or blogspot
        you buy your own domain and host it with them?
        confusing
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          Originally Posted by outwest View Post

          hmm ok i thought you used blogger.com or blogspot
          you buy your own domain and host it with them?
          confusing
          i use custom domain on blogger
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            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            i use custom domain on blogger
            in that case who is the host? They host it? on their nameservers?

            what does the domain url look like? blogger is not in the url?
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              Originally Posted by outwest View Post

              in that case who is the host? They host it? on their nameservers?

              what does the domain url look like? blogger is not in the url?
              i guess blogger host it free and a custom domain name would look like www.mysite.com
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                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                i guess blogger host it free and a custom domain name would look like www.mysite.com
                If blogger would quit, can you easily move the site with all the inner url's or will it be a lot of reconstructing in a manual way?
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                  Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                  If blogger would quit, can you easily move the site with all the inner url's or will it be a lot of reconstructing in a manual way?
                  i looked into it a while back but i forget
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        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        You welcome, all of it goes to outsourcing articles. If I could write well this process would be much easier for me. Oh and 10 dollars for the domain name.
        I dont understand....you say your doing this with blogger so why would you need a domain? :confused:

        I had no idea you could use a custom domain on blogger. Where do i find information about this?
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          Originally Posted by vare View Post

          Hi nest,

          really a great share.

          I have a question about your site structure.

          In this way how do you create your categories, and also do you build internal links between your articles, if you build, how many per post/article you recommend, and also any resource,image if you could recommend for this?

          Tnx
          I create the categories based on the niche, sometimes I will have tabs a and the tabs will have drop down boxes for sub categories.

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          Originally Posted by winrar View Post

          Hi nest,
          Have you considered to use yourdomain.blogger.com, rather than buying custom domains to save some money?
          I know maybe sub-domains are more difficult for ranking than top domains, I never tried so curious about the difference.
          I pay 390 for articles and only 10 for domain so I wouldn't be saving much.

          Originally Posted by lazydaisy View Post

          Hi Nest, When you build your site, when do you do the backlinks to the page or main domain, and what methods of backlinks do you use for each site?

          Thanks
          I wouldn't recommend my method of backlinking I do everything most imer's say never to do and have seen good results , such as sending a blast of profile links from fiverr gig to one of my main sites. The ranking for that site increased and so did the income.

          Originally Posted by Azmath View Post

          That's great !!! i also blog but never thought this kind of idea, that's really cool .
          thanx

          Originally Posted by comp123 View Post

          I dont understand....you say your doing this with blogger so why would you need a domain? :confused:

          I had no idea you could use a custom domain on blogger. Where do i find information about this?
          I don't need a custom domain name but it makes the site look more official , plus I like having my own domain name free of blogger at the end.

          info here http://support.google.com/blogger/bi...381&page=ts.cs
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    I use a similar strategy and it works very well.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    In that case, if they host the domain, I dont understand the reason, to do it on blogger

    I thought you were doing a kw.blogger.com site
    if you are doinga mydomain.com site
    why not just host it yourself ? I guess then you would have to use wordpress
    but I thought you were using blogger to get the benefit of the blogger name in the domain and the authority that comes with that

    I cant see any SERP benefit by using this custom domain and having blogger host it
    I guess the only benefit is ease of making the site on blogger? and not using wordpress?
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      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      In that case, if they host the domain, I dont understand the reason, to do it on blogger

      I thought you were doing a kw.blogger.com site
      if you are doinga mydomain.com site
      why not just host it yourself ? I guess then you would have to use wordpress
      but I thought you were using blogger to get the benefit of the blogger name in the domain and the authority that comes with that

      I cant see any SERP benefit by using this custom domain and having blogger host it
      I guess the only benefit is ease of making the site on blogger? and not using wordpress?
      I'm just use to blogger , this method can be done on any blogging plate form
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  • Profile picture of the author vare
    Hi nest,

    really a great share.

    I have a question about your site structure.

    In this way how do you create your categories, and also do you build internal links between your articles, if you build, how many per post/article you recommend, and also any resource,image if you could recommend for this?

    Tnx
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    Hi nest,
    Have you considered to use yourdomain.blogger.com, rather than buying custom domains to save some money?
    I know maybe sub-domains are more difficult for ranking than top domains, I never tried so curious about the difference.
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    Hi Nest, When you build your site, when do you do the backlinks to the page or main domain, and what methods of backlinks do you use for each site?

    Thanks
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    That's great !!! i also blog but never thought this kind of idea, that's really cool .
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    I would also like to know what you guys think of this idea http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ame-niche.html no one replied to this thread
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  • Profile picture of the author esmein
    I've found something intertesting while building a site similar to yours (different niche, monetized with Amazon instead of Adsense, has close to 100 unique, hand written articles that genuinely try and answer questions).

    There are long-tail expressions closely related to the theme of my site that I rank for multiple times on the front page. And I don't mean double listing, I mean the top 4 slots.

    Do you think it's a 'good problem' to have, or am focused on too small sub-sets of this niche and thus limit myself in how much traffic I can get on the long run?
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      Originally Posted by esmein View Post

      I've found something intertesting while building a site similar to yours (different niche, monetized with Amazon instead of Adsense, has close to 100 unique, hand written articles that genuinely try and answer questions).

      There are long-tail expressions closely related to the theme of my site that I rank for multiple times on the front page. And I don't mean double listing, I mean the top 4 slots.

      Do you think it's a 'good problem' to have, or am focused on too small sub-sets of this niche and thus limit myself in how much traffic I can get on the long run?
      Are you sure your not seeing personalized SERP results based on your browser history? If you don't clear your browser history/cache Google will show totally different false SERPs.

      Multiple SERP listings is way more powerful than a single SERP listings. I have several forum threads encouraging people to get more traffic from single keywords, I'm sure most don't listen.

      Anyways, nice work so long as those SERP results aren't personalized.
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        I'm fairly sure they aren't personalized. I'm logged out and looking at google.com. The top 4 are 3 different articles from my site + 1 tag page.

        When I'm in an incognito window and logged out, I have 2nd 3rd and 4th spots. Are there other steps I should take to make sure I'm not seeing a personalized SERP?
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          Originally Posted by esmein View Post

          I'm fairly sure they aren't personalized. I'm logged out and looking at google.com. The top 4 are 3 different articles from my site + 1 tag page.

          When I'm in an incognito window and logged out, I have 2nd 3rd and 4th spots. Are there other steps I should take to make sure I'm not seeing a personalized SERP?
          I use CCleaner (free) to clear out the browser, then do the search with Chrome Incognito.
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          • Profile picture of the author Milker
            OK - lets break this down a bit. (No offense Nest ... I was curious.)

            I make a full time adsense income without ranking keywords
            His site ranks on page 1 of Google for at least 9 high competition, high traffic terms ... several over 70K searches per month. He is within striking range of a number of really high volume keywords - page 3 for several over 200K. He is also ranking on page 2 of Google for a lot! of high volume keywords ... many over 100K searches. He does have tones of lower volume keywords that he ranks well for, but he is getting a fair amount of traffic from those high ranking keywords too. [EDIT - the search volume numbers here are all wrong - calculation mistake.]

            I don't even try to rank these sites for any keyword ...
            ... I don't go after keywords with nice amount of local searches, instead I rely on long tail traffic alone.
            The backlink anchor text shows that he is or was trying to rank for about 15 main keywords. The rest of the anchor text is quite varied with a lot of straight URL text. The search volume for some of his more heavily anchored keyword texts is 22K, 33K, another 33K, etc. So he is going to rank for some high volume keywords going by his anchor text.[EDIT - again, the search volume numbers are incorrect]

            ... with this method I do very little backlinking.
            I easily found over 1K backlinks ... the vast majority of them from mid last year and on. Most of the backlinks are the basic forum spam and comment spam and do look like Fiver Gigs. Also some sort of blog network thrown in for good measure. Brief warning for Nest here - that network has been deindexed and many (most) of your higher PR backlinks are gone. The sites are still there, but the owners have either moved or removed the content. Either way, those backlinks are gone.

            I only backlink to the home page
            Mostly true. I did find a few links to internal pages, but very few.

            yes exactly, and if you get a manual review I don't think you will have anything to worry about with a 100 page site that does nothing but deliver information that your visitors are searching for.
            Famous last words. An MFA site is just that - in fact 100 pages of 400 word articles is probably exactly the definition of MFA to Google. Remember, quality of content is very low on the list of what Google does when judging your site. That only comes after all the other automated checks are done. This sites footprint coupled with the backlink structure .... well, I think that one might worry at least a little bit.

            I didn't eve know what panda was until people on warrior forum kept talking about it. The unnatural backlnks notice, people get banned from adsense, the big bmr thing was news to me. I never notice any of my sites take a hit from any update so far.
            Looking at the site and the backlinks I wondered how this was possible. Then I discovered that many of his 'spamming' style of backlinks were created starting late last year and into about Feb of this year ... after the initial Panda outbreak. Before that he was doing primarily Article marketing which I'll bet was slow going. The site is clearly MFA and the backlinks are completely unnatural in every way possible. This is a recipe for a Panda slap ... soooooo many sites that looked exactly like this, both in their content and their backlinks have been either deindexed or worse yet, the Adsense account killed.

            Assessment of this method:

            This is the classic IM'er way of building a MFA site. It still works and probably always will. However, it is a high risk/high reward thing. If you can manage to stay under the radar you might do very well for a long time. If however, one of the Adsense advertisers puts in a complaint about your site - at the first sniff of a Google review - this site is gone. It's happened 1000's of times in the past year - MFA's are target number one for Google these days. If they find you, they will snuff you out!

            For anyone thinking of doing what Nest has done, here is what one might suggest:

            His basic method of finding a high paying niche and then building the initial site with longtail posts is good. Then adding content based on what people are searching for is also very good ... do that. Vary the length of the posts more. A whole site of 400 word posts is a footprint a mile wide. Many of the posts are virtually duplicates ... better to write one long post and incorporate the various longtail keywords into the longer post. That post then becomes more helpful to the reader and may generate more natural linking. Vary the type of posts. Do interviews. Comment on news in your niche. Tour a facility. Goto a school and have a meeting with a counselor. Post job requirements from headhunters. ... do anything to add value to the site. The basic SEO'd articles can still be there, but mix them up with other, more valuable types of content ... content that requires a bit of work.

            Finally - don't build links! Let them come naturally. If you are writing posts for the longtail traffic, you don't need backlinks. Here is what Nest wrote:

            I kept seeing "what high school classes to take if I want to become a nurse" so I made that the title of the post and since no one else had a article on the subject I easily became number 1 with no backlinks literally 2 mins after I posted it
            Use that method of gaining traffic and you don't need backlinks. Incorporate 8 or 10 of those types of longtail keywords into one long epic post and you'll get the traffic.

            Guys - Google is on the warpath - any whiff of link building or thin/dup content and they will kill your site. Don't give them a reason. This method works and can be very successful, but it is also risky. You HAVE to stay under the radar with this kind of site ... and sometimes that is hard to do. If you are in this for the long term, you really need to think hard about backlinks and whether you should build them or not.

            IMHO ... and opinions are like ..., everybody has one. lol.
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            • Profile picture of the author razorhound
              Originally Posted by Milker View Post

              OK - lets break this down a bit. (No offense Nest ... I was curious.)



              His site ranks on page 1 of Google for at least 9 high competition, high traffic terms ... several over 70K searches per month. He is within striking range of a number of really high volume keywords - page 3 for several over 200K. He is also ranking on page 2 of Google for a lot! of high volume keywords ... many over 100K searches. He does have tones of lower volume keywords that he ranks well for, but he is getting a fair amount of traffic from those high ranking keywords too.




              The backlink anchor text shows that he is or was trying to rank for about 15 main keywords. The rest of the anchor text is quite varied with a lot of straight URL text. The search volume for some of his more heavily anchored keyword texts is 22K, 33K, another 33K, etc. So he is going to rank for some high volume keywords going by his anchor text.



              I easily found over 1K backlinks ... the vast majority of them from mid last year and on. Most of the backlinks are the basic forum spam and comment spam and do look like Fiver Gigs. Also some sort of blog network thrown in for good measure. Brief warning for Nest here - that network has been deindexed and many (most) of your higher PR backlinks are gone. The sites are still there, but the owners have either moved or removed the content. Either way, those backlinks are gone.



              Mostly true. I did find a few links to internal pages, but very few.
              I have no idea which site are you talking about, did he even share his site with you?
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                Originally Posted by razorhound View Post

                I have no idea which site are you talking about, did he even share his site with you?
                you're right. I have no idea what site he is referring to.
                nest28 has never told us what site he's created.
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    Thank you for posting your experience, it was very helpful and informative. I have been thinking about starting with Adsense and you have given me some motivation. I also did not know you could register a domain with Blogger.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    As I pointed out the op saying this was all done on blogger is a bit misleading
    I think the fact he hosted his domain on blogger had NOTHING to do with the success of this method. Its all his kw choice, longtail mixing, number of pages on domain etc etc

    since he purchased his own domain and basically let blogger host it for him, and the domain reads like. www.hisdomain.com

    there is NO benefit to doing this on blogger
    hosting as opposed to locating www.hisdomain.com on his own host, and slapping wordpress on it

    Do not be confused with the "I did this with blogger": underlying theme in this thread

    i dont think blogger had anything to do with this success of this method
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      As I pointed out the op saying this was all done on blogger is a bit misleading
      I think the fact he hosted his domain on blogger had NOTHING to do with the success of this method. Its all his kw choice, longtail mixing, number of pages on domain etc etc

      since he purchased his own domain and basically let blogger host it for him, and the domain reads like. www.hisdomain.com

      there is NO benefit to doing this on blogger
      hosting as opposed to locating www.hisdomain.com on his own host, and slapping wordpress on it

      Do not be confused with the "I did this with blogger": underlying theme in this thread

      i dont think blogger had anything to do with this success of this method
      I've said many times that my sites being on blogger has no extra benefits. Blogspot is simply the first blogging platform I ever tried and I never stop using it. This method will work no matter if it's on blogger or wordpress.
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    where is the OP? No reply to the post #140? Then what that guy said must be true?
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  • Profile picture of the author Instantfruit
    @Nest - how many sites do you work on at any one time?

    Also, @Milker - interesting post, can you tell me what website you where looking at, as I dont think Nest has posted any domains he owns.

    Additionally, and with all due respect, you first post on this forum is this one?!?! That could be seen as odd.

    Either way, an interesting post that does not detract from what Nest is saying, in fact adds some caution to the approach to Google which is a good thing, but a little odd seeing as its (a) your first post, (b) does not share the domain

    Would be good to clear this up, as this is an interesting thread full of goodies!
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    • Profile picture of the author Milker
      Nest did not reveal his site - but it's not hard to figure out.

      I did make one mistake on my calculations ... my search volumes are all wrong - forgot to turn 'Global' to 'Exact' when checking the Adwords tool. Mia Culpa. That changes the numbers for his top 10 ranked search terms making them really a lot less in terms of competition.

      Does not change my thoughts about the site or how Google might view it though. I urge any beginners to be very careful with this type of site ... especially the backlinking. Nest himself said it best:

      I wouldn't recommend my method of backlinking I do everything most imer's say never to do and have seen good results , such as sending a blast of profile links from fiverr gig to one of my main sites. The ranking for that site increased and so did the income.
      I am just trying to bring another point of view to his information.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by Milker View Post

        OK - lets break this down a bit. (No offense Nest ... I was curious.)



        His site ranks on page 1 of Google for at least 9 high competition, high traffic terms ... several over 70K searches per month. He is within striking range of a number of really high volume keywords - page 3 for several over 200K. He is also ranking on page 2 of Google for a lot! of high volume keywords ... many over 100K searches. He does have tones of lower volume keywords that he ranks well for, but he is getting a fair amount of traffic from those high ranking keywords too. [EDIT - the search volume numbers here are all wrong - calculation mistake.]




        The backlink anchor text shows that he is or was trying to rank for about 15 main keywords. The rest of the anchor text is quite varied with a lot of straight URL text. The search volume for some of his more heavily anchored keyword texts is 22K, 33K, another 33K, etc. So he is going to rank for some high volume keywords going by his anchor text.[EDIT - again, the search volume numbers are incorrect]



        I easily found over 1K backlinks ... the vast majority of them from mid last year and on. Most of the backlinks are the basic forum spam and comment spam and do look like Fiver Gigs. Also some sort of blog network thrown in for good measure. Brief warning for Nest here - that network has been deindexed and many (most) of your higher PR backlinks are gone. The sites are still there, but the owners have either moved or removed the content. Either way, those backlinks are gone.



        Mostly true. I did find a few links to internal pages, but very few.



        Famous last words. An MFA site is just that - in fact 100 pages of 400 word articles is probably exactly the definition of MFA to Google. Remember, quality of content is very low on the list of what Google does when judging your site. That only comes after all the other automated checks are done. This sites footprint coupled with the backlink structure .... well, I think that one might worry at least a little bit.



        Looking at the site and the backlinks I wondered how this was possible. Then I discovered that many of his 'spamming' style of backlinks were created starting late last year and into about Feb of this year ... after the initial Panda outbreak. Before that he was doing primarily Article marketing which I'll bet was slow going. The site is clearly MFA and the backlinks are completely unnatural in every way possible. This is a recipe for a Panda slap ... soooooo many sites that looked exactly like this, both in their content and their backlinks have been either deindexed or worse yet, the Adsense account killed.

        Assessment of this method:

        This is the classic IM'er way of building a MFA site. It still works and probably always will. However, it is a high risk/high reward thing. If you can manage to stay under the radar you might do very well for a long time. If however, one of the Adsense advertisers puts in a complaint about your site - at the first sniff of a Google review - this site is gone. It's happened 1000's of times in the past year - MFA's are target number one for Google these days. If they find you, they will snuff you out!

        For anyone thinking of doing what Nest has done, here is what one might suggest:

        His basic method of finding a high paying niche and then building the initial site with longtail posts is good. Then adding content based on what people are searching for is also very good ... do that. Vary the length of the posts more. A whole site of 400 word posts is a footprint a mile wide. Many of the posts are virtually duplicates ... better to write one long post and incorporate the various longtail keywords into the longer post. That post then becomes more helpful to the reader and may generate more natural linking. Vary the type of posts. Do interviews. Comment on news in your niche. Tour a facility. Goto a school and have a meeting with a counselor. Post job requirements from headhunters. ... do anything to add value to the site. The basic SEO'd articles can still be there, but mix them up with other, more valuable types of content ... content that requires a bit of work.

        Finally - don't build links! Let them come naturally. If you are writing posts for the longtail traffic, you don't need backlinks. Here is what Nest wrote:



        Use that method of gaining traffic and you don't need backlinks. Incorporate 8 or 10 of those types of longtail keywords into one long epic post and you'll get the traffic.

        Guys - Google is on the warpath - any whiff of link building or thin/dup content and they will kill your site. Don't give them a reason. This method works and can be very successful, but it is also risky. You HAVE to stay under the radar with this kind of site ... and sometimes that is hard to do. If you are in this for the long term, you really need to think hard about backlinks and whether you should build them or not.

        IMHO ... and opinions are like ..., everybody has one. lol.
        I have no idea what you are talking about lol. How can these be mfa type sites when all I do is answer questions provided by my visitors? I provide value to the internet by doing so. The reason I make post 400 words is because that's all it takes to answer a question like "what classes should I take in high school if I want to become a nurse".

        Remember the title of the post is what ranks the article not a snippet from the middle or end, that is why I don't make long 800 word articles, I rank using post title and focus on answering that one question same as yahoo answers, they rank just by having a question for a title and they don't even provide a whole article as the solution just a answer which is normally a short paragraph. I see no danger in making a site that provides information, and lots of it.

        Also I don't have articles that are closely related such has "how to become a nurse" "how to become a register nurse" or "nurse salary" "nurse salary 2012" I see no point in doing so.

        And how come all of your search or competition for this so called site is constantly wrong?

        Originally Posted by razorhound View Post

        I have no idea which site are you talking about, did he even share his site with you?
        I don't know what this guy is talking about because I have not shared any of my sites.
        Originally Posted by dakar View Post

        you're right. I have no idea what site he is referring to.
        nest28 has never told us what site he's created.
        Originally Posted by tycoon828 View Post

        where is the OP? No reply to the post #140? Then what that guy said must be true?
        Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear, heard that on justice league cartoon lol wise words tho.

        Originally Posted by Instantfruit View Post

        @Nest - how many sites do you work on at any one time?

        Also, @Milker - interesting post, can you tell me what website you where looking at, as I dont think Nest has posted any domains he owns.

        Additionally, and with all due respect, you first post on this forum is this one?!?! That could be seen as odd.

        Either way, an interesting post that does not detract from what Nest is saying, in fact adds some caution to the approach to Google which is a good thing, but a little odd seeing as its (a) your first post, (b) does not share the domain

        Would be good to clear this up, as this is an interesting thread full of goodies!
        I work on one site at a time. I agree it is strange this is his first post, seo experts like yukon has seen this thread among others and no one said these sites should be looked at as mfa type sites or that you should use caution, he even says not to build backlinks.

        Originally Posted by Milker View Post

        Nest did not reveal his site - but it's not hard to figure out.

        I did make one mistake on my calculations ... my search volumes are all wrong - forgot to turn 'Global' to 'Exact' when checking the Adwords tool. Mia Culpa. That changes the numbers for his top 10 ranked search terms making them really a lot less in terms of competition.

        Does not change my thoughts about the site or how Google might view it though. I urge any beginners to be very careful with this type of site ... especially the backlinking. Nest himself said it best:



        I am just trying to bring another point of view to his information.
        I said I wouldn't recommend blasting a site with spam, but build a small amount of quality links a little at a time is highly recommended.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    I will put my money will my mouth is by revealing one of my sites. Please understand that this particular site is totally different than my other 15 sites. It is only 2 months old and I had planned on building it in reverse by going after exact match keywords and than long tail keywords , something I normally don't do. I haven't put adsense on this site because it hasn't gotten any visitors and has been bouncing around for some time now. It also occurred to me that I shouldn't have made this site because it doesn't get enough local exact searches to provide a income off of long tail phrases alone.

    All of my other sites are centered around keywords that get 20,000 plus local searches a month, which means plenty of questions for me to answer vs 2400 for my main keyword on this site and a 1000 for my secondary keyword, you will notice plenty of other keywords like neonatal nurse which I had no intentions on ranking for just made the article because it is related to my main keyword.

    I'm sure you guys may have questions and some may judge my site and have negative things to say and that's alright, but remember this I was willing share my methods of a successful adsense method with you and on top of that done something that I can't remember ever seeing and that is revealing a site I own.

    enjoy the psychiatric nurse practitioner

    Also I'm not done with this site's appearance or on site seo, have nice day


    Edit: here is a example of my ad placement adsense block 2 Also please understand that for this example you will see 2 ads side by side example block 1 which is the adsense on homepage will not show on my actual sites I have it set up so that block one only shows on the homepage so that when you click on a article block one disappears and only in content block 2 will be seen.
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    this milker guy is a strange one. He has only 2 posts and has a Join Date of Apr 2012. In other words the id was created to reply in this thread.

    anyway there is no doubt that this is a proven strategy and was used very successfully by ehow.com before they got slapped by Google for low quality content.
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    • Profile picture of the author dakar
      nest28:

      Do you think your site would get approved and not suspended for driving PPC traffic via adwords?
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        Originally Posted by dakar View Post

        nest28:

        Do you think your site would get approved and not suspended for driving PPC traffic via adwords?
        I haven't used adwords in 2 years so idk, plus using adwords in medical field would be expensive.
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        • Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          I haven't used adwords in 2 years so idk, plus using adwords in medical field would be expensive.
          So after reading your posts and all the replies, I was just curious how long is it taking you to earn anything using your method of starting with very low search terms? I do like your idea of using the search terms used to find your site to create more pages with.

          As far as using medical niches like nursing, I am surprised you are really doing good, even more so, that you are using blogger as opposed to your own domain and host, I assume you are using a free blogger domain. The niche is so highlu competitive...I looked into it but did not want to wait for years to see results. So how long before you see results after getting your site up? Do you start with 5 or so articles and submit the rest on a steady basis or are you submitting all 30+ articles at once and letting them sit?
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            Originally Posted by Fernando1954 View Post

            How do you get that ad block in your post top left with the text wrapped round it on blogger
            lol it took a lot of searching around to find out how to do that, and also how to make adsense show on the homepage and not any other page. I will see if I can find that info for you.

            Originally Posted by nichearticlewriter View Post

            If you want to use the google keyword tool you can always use the advanced options and features options. You would simply the options from the drop down menus..
            -Local monthly searches..1000 or whatever you want to start with
            -Competition: Low to Medium
            Approximate CPC: $1.00 or again whatever you want to start with

            Or you can get a paid version product. I use LongTailPro by Spencer Haws
            Originally Posted by nichearticlewriter View Post

            So after reading your posts and all the replies, I was just curious how long is it taking you to earn anything using your method of starting with very low search terms? I do like your idea of using the search terms used to find your site to create more pages with.

            As far as using medical niches like nursing, I am surprised you are really doing good, even more so, that you are using blogger as opposed to your own domain and host, I assume you are using a free blogger domain. The niche is so highlu competitive...I looked into it but did not want to wait for years to see results. So how long before you see results after getting your site up? Do you start with 5 or so articles and submit the rest on a steady basis or are you submitting all 30+ articles at once and letting them sit?
            I use micro niche finder and I double check keywords and competition using traffic travis
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            • -traffic travis..I actually cannot use this..I have a Mac and for some reason their stuff doesnt work on my computer...but you still didnt really answer all my questions above
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    How do you get that ad block in your post top left with the text wrapped round it on blogger
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  • Profile picture of the author greatar4
    Each site only gets between 80 and 125 visitors a day yet they all make 100.00 to 150.00 a month.
    Well, if you get that kind of traffic in a daily basis and as you stated in your post that The medical field pays well, normally I will see 2, 3 and 4 dollar clicks. Why you only make like 100.00 to 150.00 a month? I think because the traffic are not really targeted traffic, or you may experience a high bounce rate.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by nichearticlewriter View Post

      So after reading your posts and all the replies, I was just curious how long is it taking you to earn anything using your method of starting with very low search terms? I do like your idea of using the search terms used to find your site to create more pages with.

      As far as using medical niches like nursing, I am surprised you are really doing good, even more so, that you are using blogger as opposed to your own domain and host, I assume you are using a free blogger domain. The niche is so highlu competitive...I looked into it but did not want to wait for years to see results. So how long before you see results after getting your site up? Do you start with 5 or so articles and submit the rest on a steady basis or are you submitting all 30+ articles at once and letting them sit?
      Nursing was just a example not m real niche. Although there are different kinds of nurses and not all of them have high competition. I use custom domain names on blogger. The sites start to earn income about 4 to 6 weeks and they reach there peak by the time I have reach 100 pages.

      Originally Posted by nichearticlewriter View Post

      -traffic travis..I actually cannot use this..I have a Mac and for some reason their stuff doesnt work on my computer...but you still didnt really answer all my questions above
      Sorry sometimes I will be replying to comments and while doing so you may have left a new one that I missed.
      Originally Posted by greatar4 View Post

      Well, if you get that kind of traffic in a daily basis and as you stated in your post that The medical field pays well, normally I will see 2, 3 and 4 dollar clicks. Why you only make like 100.00 to 150.00 a month? I think because the traffic are not really targeted traffic, or you may experience a high bounce rate.
      If I were to go after the main keywords that the site is about it would take much longer to see results, plus I'm not into the whole backlinking like crazy thing. Getting to the top of google for high competition keywords is not easy especially now. It takes a lot of time and money to achieve number 1 rankings and also to maintain them.
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      • Profile picture of the author dakar
        nest28:

        im curious: how many sites/attempts did it take for success? In other words, how many times did you fail before you realized that your technique had growth potential. Or were you lucky the first time?
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          Originally Posted by dakar View Post

          nest28:

          im curious: how many sites/attempts did it take for success? In other words, how many times did you fail before you realized that your technique had growth potential. Or were you lucky the first time?
          My first site was the template for the rest, I basically looked at everything that made me money from that site and applied it to the rest. The only site that I have been having a problem with is the nurse site that I allowed everyone to see. Probably because I tried to build it in reverse instead on my normal way.


          I would recommend going after a niche that has huge exact local search, and plenty of sub categories.
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          • Profile picture of the author dakar
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            My first site was the template for the rest, I basically looked at everything that made me money from that site and applied it to the rest. The only site that I have been having a problem with is the nurse site that I allowed everyone to see. Probably because I tried to build it in reverse instead on my normal way.


            I would recommend going after a niche that has huge exact local search, and plenty of sub categories.
            Thanks. That's what I'll try to do!
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          • Profile picture of the author jjhf
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            My first site was the template for the rest, I basically looked at everything that made me money from that site and applied it to the rest. The only site that I have been having a problem with is the nurse site that I allowed everyone to see. Probably because I tried to build it in reverse instead on my normal way.


            I would recommend going after a niche that has huge exact local search, and plenty of sub categories.
            Just to clarify. You start off by finding a category like Race Car Driver. that has 100000 exact local searches (numbers completely made up).

            From there you drill down and find 20 Key word phrases 100-1000 exact local searches with low competition and have 20 pieces of content written with those key words as titles. Example: Race Car Driver Salary, How to be a race car driver, Race Car Driving Schools, Race Car Driver Degrees, Race Car Driver requirements etc...... all the way to 20 of these

            You then submit to webmaster tools, directories, and throw some fiverr links at the main page and sit back and watch for a few weeks. After those few weeks you see that people who searched for "What's the quickest way to be a race car driver?" landed on your site so you hire out to the content authority an article titles "What's the quickest way to be a race car driver?"

            You then repeat the last step until you get around 75-100 pages.

            Thanks in advance.
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by jjhf View Post

              Just to clarify. You start off by finding a category like Race Car Driver. that has 100000 exact local searches (numbers completely made up).

              From there you drill down and find 20 Key word phrases 100-1000 exact local searches with low competition and have 20 pieces of content written with those key words as titles. Example: Race Car Driver Salary, How to be a race car driver, Race Car Driving Schools, Race Car Driver Degrees, Race Car Driver requirements etc...... all the way to 20 of these

              You then submit to webmaster tools, directories, and throw some fiverr links at the main page and sit back and watch for a few weeks. After those few weeks you see that people who searched for "What's the quickest way to be a race car driver?" landed on your site so you hire out to the content authority an article titles "What's the quickest way to be a race car driver?"

              You then repeat the last step until you get around 75-100 pages.

              Thanks in advance.
              Yes although I wont be backlinking to my sites in the future. But you hit the nail on the head exactly. If your not making good money already i see it in your future.
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  • Profile picture of the author UW
    I just want to say thanks for sharing your story it has really inspired me to start a new project. thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeUK
    Interesting thread. Long tail traffic is completely natural and how most major authority sites get the bulk of their traffic (at least that's my understanding) so to build your site around that, aiming to pull in long tail traffic through multiple articles as opposed to getting mad caught up trying to rank the homepage for example for a few specific keywords makes sense - but both would be nice in an ideal world though!
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  • Profile picture of the author williamsam
    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

    Basically I build large sites using blogger custom domains. I don't use any kind of adsense ctr theme or any other commonly used templates. Here is a example of a template i might usefree blogger templates.

    I place one adsense block in the sidebar which is only shown on the homepage, the rest will be inside the content to the left. I used to make blog posts that were the exact match as the keyword I wanted to rank, for example if I wanted to rank for registered nurse, than the title of the post would be registered nurse. Now I look for niches that have potential to become large sites, so I stick to medical careers. The medical field pays well, normally I will see 2,3 and 4 dollar clicks. Each site only gets between 80 and 125 visitors a day yet they all make 100.00 to 150.00 a month.

    I only backlink the homepage using article marketing ,social bookmarks, forum profiles etc. I don't even try to rank these sites for any keyword, all my traffic come from long tail searches. I use google analytics to see how people got to my site than I use those search terms as post titles. For example , Do I have to be good at math to become a registered nurse, can I become a registered nurse with a g.e.d. , how do I become a registered nurse if I already have a degree in health science


    The only thing I do to make a site is search for a medical career, research what kind of degrees and training is required , think of a bunch of questions I can write about and that's it. Each site is 75 to 100 pages.
    Then it's party time dude go and celebrate
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    why you using blogger custom domain any benefit of this?
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  • Profile picture of the author slix
    He already said twice, he likes the blogger and that's why he use it - it could be done with WP, Joomla or any other platform.

    Thanks for sharing this, I know a guy who has never done any SEO to his site, but he is posting quality articles 1-2 times / week and he is doing very well.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
    Excellent post!!! I have been thinking about this type of strategy for a long time but never thought it would produce. I have wasted so much money and time on backlinks and now I'm sick about them. I'm DONE with backlinks...no more for me. I'm sticking with the old cliche..."Content is King".

    I started a new blog based on some lucrative keywords. I will post new articles as often as I can of about 400 - 500 words...outsourcing of course. Content Authority is great. I bought an article yesterday and it was very good. See what happens when I get to 100 posts.

    I think all of my other blogs (10 -12) that I built backlinks to are dead. Unnatural backlinks syndrome.

    I have an old blog on millionaires that gets 500 - 600 visitors per day. It has 100 articles and some crappy links from 6 years ago. It continues to get 500 visitors per day even though I have done nothing for 6 years. It does not rank well for any keywords that I know of...just longtails.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
    I really think SEO is coming to an end. Google will put an end to it as fast as it can. SEO Backlinks are now headed to an early grave. Google wants the money people are paying SEO companies for ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author renegadetmj
    Hi nest28, congratulations on finding a winning formula that you are able to make work and scale up.
    Out of interest, what level of article do you order from TCA? Basic, Great or Excellent?
    Do they require anything from you other than the topic/question you are wanting to cover in the article?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by renegadetmj View Post

      Hi nest28, congratulations on finding a winning formula that you are able to make work and scale up.
      Out of interest, what level of article do you order from TCA? Basic, Great or Excellent?
      Do they require anything from you other than the topic/question you are wanting to cover in the article?
      I order basic. I have even shown a article that I ordered some where in this thread. I have learned to be specific as possible. I used to say I need a basic article on nurses, but now I say I need a article on nurses please include salary, best schools to attend,exams and anything else related to the subject.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikengo
    Hi, thanks for sharing your method. One thing I don't see people mentioning about using blogger as your host is that it is never down? Also, it loads fast so Google got to love that.

    Anyway, I have a couples of questions for you nest28 if you don't mind.

    1) does your "main keyword" rank anywhere on Google?
    2) once the site is build out with 75-100 pages, do you still continue to add articles on a regular basis or you just move on to the next site?
    3) if there a minimum number of people landing on your site for a specific keyword before you start writing an article on that subject?

    Thanks,
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by mikengo View Post

      Hi, thanks for sharing your method. One thing I don't see people mentioning about using blogger as your host is that it is never down? Also, it loads fast so Google got to love that.

      Anyway, I have a couples of questions for you nest28 if you don't mind.

      1) does your "main keyword" rank anywhere on Google?
      2) once the site is build out with 75-100 pages, do you still continue to add articles on a regular basis or you just move on to the next site?
      3) if there a minimum number of people landing on your site for a specific keyword before you start writing an article on that subject?

      Thanks,
      Mike
      1. sometimes I may rank on first or second page for a keyword but without trying.
      2. I move on
      3.I used google analytics for my information in the past but starting this morning I use yahoo answers for ideas. Just put a keyword in and see all the questions that come up, any keyword with at least 2500 results in yahoo answers should be able to make money on long tail traffic alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikengo
    Thanks for the reply. Have you tried iwriter instead of TCA? It's $3 for 500 words. Quality may not be as good as TCA but you can save some money that way?
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    Sorry for my ignorance but what is TCA? I'm looking to outsource my writting
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      Originally Posted by mikengo View Post

      Thanks for the reply. Have you tried iwriter instead of TCA? It's $3 for 500 words. Quality may not be as good as TCA but you can save some money that way?
      I never heard of it but thanks I'll give it a try.
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      Sorry for my ignorance but what is TCA? I'm looking to outsource my writting
      the content authority
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    I wanted to congratulate you on a nice layout and strategy that works for you and for showing that you can make money with adsense if you go about it strategically. Your post actually has inspired me to try to take action on an Adsense type site of my own. Right now, I make a couple bucks a day off of both my merchant sites, but they're not designed in a way that was meant for the sites to primarily be Adsense sites. Still the extra 50 - 100 bucks a month is a nice little extra, but I'd of course like to take this to the next level and make that 50 - 100 a week if possible or more.

    I don't know that I could partake in the medical profession given that I don't know anything about it other than trying to do the research to write. It probably wouldn't interest me anyhow even though I don't mind writing myself but I'd have to find a niche that would be worthwhile for me to write about. Unfortunately, hip hop doesn't have much of a conversion in terms of adsense revenue. Seems the major niches are always weight loss, medical field, internet marketing, lawyers, and insurance to name a few that come to mind.

    Thank you though for a major post! I've always wondered if I created a blog around a certain subject, and just created posts that would be long tail keywords, or even using my searched keywords as I debated on doing and see that you did, if i would eventually build a decent amount of traffic. Thank you for showing me that something like that is indeed possible. I wouldn't worry much on backlinks other than building my own manually here and there, but it's good to know that something like this is possible! Great work Nest! And thanks for sharing!
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

      I wanted to congratulate you on a nice layout and strategy that works for you and for showing that you can make money with adsense if you go about it strategically. Your post actually has inspired me to try to take action on an Adsense type site of my own. Right now, I make a couple bucks a day off of both my merchant sites, but they're not designed in a way that was meant for the sites to primarily be Adsense sites. Still the extra 50 - 100 bucks a month is a nice little extra, but I'd of course like to take this to the next level and make that 50 - 100 a week if possible or more.

      I don't know that I could partake in the medical profession given that I don't know anything about it other than trying to do the research to write. It probably wouldn't interest me anyhow even though I don't mind writing myself but I'd have to find a niche that would be worthwhile for me to write about. Unfortunately, hip hop doesn't have much of a conversion in terms of adsense revenue. Seems the major niches are always weight loss, medical field, internet marketing, lawyers, and insurance to name a few that come to mind.

      Thank you though for a major post! I've always wondered if I created a blog around a certain subject, and just created posts that would be long tail keywords, or even using my searched keywords as I debated on doing and see that you did, if i would eventually build a decent amount of traffic. Thank you for showing me that something like that is indeed possible. I wouldn't worry much on backlinks other than building my own manually here and there, but it's good to know that something like this is possible! Great work Nest! And thanks for sharing!
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  • Profile picture of the author gbarrows31
    So I'm a BIG WP Fan, but one of the replies may have turned me on to blogspot. Question: When I use WP I buy a domain; install WP on that domain; pick a template; install on my hosting account and I'm off and running.. Would this be the same process for blogspot?

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      Originally Posted by gbarrows31 View Post

      So I'm a BIG WP Fan, but one of the replies may have turned me on to blogspot. Question: When I use WP I buy a domain; install WP on that domain; pick a template; install on my hosting account and I'm off and running.. Would this be the same process for blogspot?

      Thanks
      With blogspot simply buy a custom domain and that it
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianMaxwell1978
    If you have Adsense on your website or blog I hope you're not promoting a product or service because you're creating competition for yourself and once those people leave they'll never come back. Most experienced marketers that are making mid-high 5 figures or better will tell you that there is very little reward in Adsense. You know that it takes a lot to get someone to your website, blog, or affiliate page and now that they are finally there you've put yourself in competition with someone else on your home turf. And the crazy part about it is that you did it on purpose!

    Google loves you because you are providing their users with quality relevant content and there paying you pennies while advertisors are paying them millions for your hard earned traffic that you let slip away. Stop walking over the dollars to pickup the dimes. I tell my team to never give visitors a way to leave your page...especially not for another persons site. If they leave hopefully they signed up for something free or they're ordering. So if you're promoting a product I'd ask myself is Google paying you enough tp put your product potentially on the back burner in favor of someone else's. They will get the sale and you'll make $0.15! If you're not promoting a product I'd say Adsense makes sense if it's to make enough money to pay for hosting, something like that is cool. Just don't hurt yourself.

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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by BrianMaxwell1978 View Post

      If you have Adsense on your website or blog I hope you're not promoting a product or service because you're creating competition for yourself and once those people leave they'll never come back. Most experienced marketers that are making mid-high 5 figures or better will tell you that there is very little reward in Adsense. You know that it takes a lot to get someone to your website, blog, or affiliate page and now that they are finally there you've put yourself in competition with someone else on your home turf. And the crazy part about it is that you did it on purpose!

      Google loves you because you are providing their users with quality relevant content and there paying you pennies while advertisors are paying them millions for your hard earned traffic that you let slip away. Stop walking over the dollars to pickup the dimes. I tell my team to never give visitors a way to leave your page...especially not for another persons site. If they leave hopefully they signed up for something free or they're ordering. So if you're promoting a product I'd ask myself is Google paying you enough tp put your product potentially on the back burner in favor of someone else's. They will get the sale and you'll make $0.15! If you're not promoting a product I'd say Adsense makes sense if it's to make enough money to pay for hosting, something like that is cool. Just don't hurt yourself.

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      No products just adsense, also no hosting fees with blogger. Thank you for your advice I learn something new everyday and I always look for better ways to make money. I have a couple methods of making money that I am experimenting with at the moment if I can stay off the warrior forum for a sec .
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  • Profile picture of the author rashmisinha
    there will be different kinds way to earn money but I think your time is good, & your idea has clicked,
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  • Profile picture of the author domainarama
    nest and others using blogspot:

    If you want backlinks without doing any work go to Layout then add a gadget (HTML/Javascript or text). The gadget should invite people to comment.

    To make that invitation more inviting tell people their comment will be dofollow. Now, in their natural state comments on blogspot blogs are nofollow. To make them dofollow you have to go into the code for the template. About 2/3 of the way down the code is the term "rel=nofollow" Once you delete rel=nofollow the comments are dofollow. There are instructions at hxxp://followlist(.)com(/)blog/category(/)dofollow-blog-info - this is NOT an affiliate link

    On my blogspot blogs I get less than a comment a day, but they are genuine comments so the backlinks help.

    There are other legit blogspot "tricks." For instance you can get rid of the ugly navbar at the top of blogspot blogs and you can add a snippet of code so when people click on a link on the page their click opens a new tab. That way the entire site remains open on their browser so they do not forget your site.

    nest28: Does the 28 in your name mean 28th Street? I grew up on 30th Street.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by domainarama View Post

      nest and others using blogspot:

      If you want backlinks without doing any work go to Layout then add a gadget (HTML/Javascript or text). The gadget should invite people to comment.

      To make that invitation more inviting tell people their comment will be dofollow. Now, in their natural state comments on blogspot blogs are nofollow. To make them dofollow you have to go into the code for the template. About 2/3 of the way down the code is the term "rel=nofollow" Once you delete rel=nofollow the comments are dofollow. There are instructions at hxxp://followlist(.)com(/)blog/category(/)dofollow-blog-info - this is NOT an affiliate link

      On my blogspot blogs I get less than a comment a day, but they are genuine comments so the backlinks help.

      There are other legit blogspot "tricks." For instance you can get rid of the ugly navbar at the top of blogspot blogs and you can add a snippet of code so when people click on a link on the page their click opens a new tab. That way the entire site remains open on their browser so they do not forget your site.

      nest28: Does the 28 in your name mean 28th Street? I grew up on 30th Street.
      Now that's what i'm talking about a very informative post. Ha Ha no my name is Ernest and I was 28 at the time that I signed up to warrior forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author PriceMaster
    Great idea! This holds true for most kinds of websites.

    Even those ranking their keywords should always try to grab the visitors attention by introducing interesting topics with long-tail keyword titles.
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  • Profile picture of the author thatkeywordguy
    What is the average size of long tail keyword you go for.

    e.g. is there a cutoff?

    e.g. sometimes people recommend not going under 5 words -- in the keyword phrase
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by thatkeywordguy View Post

      What is the average size of long tail keyword you go for.

      e.g. is there a cutoff?

      e.g. sometimes people recommend not going under 5 words -- in the keyword phrase
      The longer the better I go after very long phrases, basically sentences.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Idk if I'll ever finish that site it was hit with unnatural backlinks message today.
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    • Profile picture of the author dakar
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      Idk if I'll ever finish that site it was hit with unnatural backlinks message today.
      What backlinking methods did you use? Did you end up trying UAW?
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
    If you are doing that well, I would definitely throw in some extra SEO for some other keywords if I were you. Just test it out on a new website and see what kind of benefit you can have.

    The medical area does pay well in clicks. But there are tons of others; insurance, justice, etc..
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by StevenJones View Post

      If you are doing that well, I would definitely throw in some extra SEO for some other keywords if I were you. Just test it out on a new website and see what kind of benefit you can have.

      The medical area does pay well in clicks. But there are tons of others; insurance, justice, etc..
      I defiantly have to change my game plan. Testing new methods to see what works will be a time consuming effort that will most certainly have a negative impact on my income. As they say time is money.
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      • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I defiantly have to change my game plan. Testing new methods to see what works will be a time consuming effort that will most certainly have a negative impact on my income. As they say time is money.
        Well, we all need to go back to the drawing board once in a while. Take my software for example. It will be never finished, Google will keep updating and we need to find new ways and update our software with it. Not to mention adding new features and so on.

        The same goes for taking a whole new business approach. Innovation is important, but sometimes innovation lays in just changing one tiny simple thing, one simple tweak if you will. So don't consider to change your whole 'game'.

        So my advice would be (if you want any); start small and start tweaking those little things. And do consider SEO mate.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by dakar View Post

          What backlinking methods did you use? Did you end up trying UAW?
          No UAW, profile links,social bookmarks,article directories, few bmr posts, matt laclear's service,web 2.0 etc

          Originally Posted by StevenJones View Post

          Well, we all need to go back to the drawing board once in a while. Take my software for example. It will be never finished, Google will keep updating and we need to find new ways and update our software with it. Not to mention adding new features and so on.

          The same goes for taking a whole new business approach. Innovation is important, but sometimes innovation lays in just changing one tiny simple thing, one simple tweak if you will. So don't consider to change your whole 'game'.

          So my advice would be (if you want any); start small and start tweaking those little things. And do consider SEO mate.
          Advice is always welcome and appreciated by me, I just started 7 new sites none have any backlinks so I'l start with these. The first thing I'll do is build less links with higher value, and vary my anchor text more.
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  • Profile picture of the author BigNorm
    Anything remotely related to paid for backlinks I would recommend staying away from. Bookmarks, posting to article directories, web 2.0 etc don't fall within this category as their posts/links put on free websites. I basically keep a wide berth from anything where I have to purchase a link from. If it says it's private and yet available to be purchases then chances are it's not private. The only exception to this rule are services which are extremely limited to the amount of people they let in compared to the amount of blogs they host.
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  • Profile picture of the author mahacool
    You are doing the right thing. Blogger and wordpress are the ones to use. Simple and quick. You can also combine adsense with affiliate marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author tycoon828
    Hi nest28

    This is really a great thread. I already hit the thanks button but still want to say thanks to you here.

    I will start to try this method as soon as possible.

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by tycoon828 View Post

      Hi nest28

      This is really a great thread. I already hit the thanks button but still want to say thanks to you here.

      I will start to try this method as soon as possible.

      Cheers
      You are welcome my friend, just watch what kind of backlinks you use to your sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author SMSWriter
    Man, thank you for spilling your guts! I have a similar idea and it's nice to see that someone is realizing success with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlphaWarrior
    When I first read this thread, I thought that it was a great idea. Find long tail keywords/keyphrases and let them do the work. Little, if any, backlinking. Content was king.

    But when I read another thread by the op titled "All sites hit with the unnatural backlinks penalty , rankings are dropping fast", I really question a lot of this thread.

    There really seems to be a lot of backlinking that is responsible for the ranking. If not the backlinking, why would the sites drop in rankings? After all, the long tail keywords/keyphrases were suppose to be independent of and not affected by backlinking.

    Also, I understood that the sites had the standard home, about, privacy, etc. and then a hundred articles. But, per the other thread, each site also has videos, forums, contact me, etc. In other words, there were other factors that would help with rankings other than simply one hundred long tail articles.

    I am not saying that this thread is bad advice or that anything is wrong with the info given, but I am saying that there is a whole lot more to the op's original success as evidenced by his sites dropping in rankings as he explains in the other thread. Just beware.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior View Post

      When I first read this thread, I thought that it was a great idea. Find long tail keywords/keyphrases and let them do the work. Little, if any, backlinking. Content was king.

      But when I read another thread by the op titled "All sites hit with the unnatural backlinks penalty , rankings are dropping fast", I really question a lot of this thread.

      There really seems to be a lot of backlinking that is responsible for the ranking. If not the backlinking, why would the sites drop in rankings? After all, the long tail keywords/keyphrases were suppose to be independent of and not affected by backlinking.

      Also, I understood that the sites had the standard home, about, privacy, etc. and then a hundred articles. But, per the other thread, each site also has videos, forums, contact me, etc. In other words, there were other factors that would help with rankings other than simply one hundred long tail articles.

      I am not saying that this thread is bad advice or that anything is wrong with the info given, but I am saying that there is a whole lot more to the op's original success as evidenced by his sites dropping in rankings as he explains in the other thread. Just beware.
      I tried to share as much as possible with people , even showing one of my newest sites as a example. My others sites only receive a little over a hundred links a month and some months no links at all. I would consider that to be little to no backlinking compared to trying to rank for a competitive keyword and making a thousand or so backlinks a month. The method works, there have been plenty of warriors who have stated that they are doing something similar on their sites with great success.

      I only made the other thread as a warning and also to receive advice. I am not a seo expert. I could have kept the info to my self especially after just making a thread proclaiming my success.
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      • Profile picture of the author dezz26
        I had a question about your posting, do you set all your articles to be posted in the same day or do you drip feed them over time.
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  • Profile picture of the author brchap
    Ernest, you are one of a kind, my friend. I admire you for taking the time (and money) to do the work necessary to rise above the welfare system. You have set yourself apart from the Average Joe by skipping the pity party and taking real action. Then, on top of that, you go out of your way to share your process with the rest of the WF for free. You have even shared one of your sites, which I never would have advised anyone to do.

    I happen to be making a bit of coin myself from a similar process, and I know that it works. Sometimes, going for keywords that are "under the radar" (low search volume) can be pretty lucrative.

    Don't pay attention to the haters. They are still arguing with their own self-limiting belief systems, their fear of failure and their fear of success. So, don't take it personally. You rock.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by dezz26 View Post

      I had a question about your posting, do you set all your articles to be posted in the same day or do you drip feed them over time.
      As soon as the articles are done I post them. I guess it would seem random to google because it's normally 4 article here 9 articles there and so on.

      Originally Posted by brchap View Post

      Ernest, you are one of a kind, my friend. I admire you for taking the time (and money) to do the work necessary to rise above the welfare system. You have set yourself apart from the Average Joe by skipping the pity party and taking real action. Then, on top of that, you go out of your way to share your process with the rest of the WF for free. You have even shared one of your sites, which I never would have advised anyone to do.

      I happen to be making a bit of coin myself from a similar process, and I know that it works. Sometimes, going for keywords that are "under the radar" (low search volume) can be pretty lucrative.

      Don't pay attention to the haters. They are still arguing with their own self-limiting belief systems, their fear of failure and their fear of success. So, don't take it personally. You rock.
      Thank you very much sir, honestly thats one of the nicest things anyone has ever said about me . It's sad that people would rather hate or say that this method doesn't work without even trying it but if I say go make a 3 page site and rank for easy keyword with couple thousand searches a month they'll get started on that rite away. :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
        You turned me on to blogger. I never like it much before and still don't like their basic themes. But it seems if you know what you're doing, blogger can work great. I love some of the themes you're using. I'm building a few sites now. I'm going to try creating free ebooks with my links embedded in the text and upload them to document sharing sites. I've already just started this. I think I'm going to use this as my main backlinking strategy until I understand what's going on. Does that strategy seem good to you?
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonB
    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

    I only backlink the homepage using article marketing ,social bookmarks, forum profiles etc.
    When doing the above, do you outsource to others, do you use any particular software or software's? Do you manually submit articles, SPIN them?

    Where, how or who does this for you?

    Thanks
    JB
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by JasonB View Post

      When doing the above, do you outsource to others, do you use any particular software or software's? Do you manually submit articles, SPIN them?

      Where, how or who does this for you?

      Thanks
      JB
      I used various seo tools to accomplish my backlinking methods in addition to outsourcing to fiverr gigs and some services found here on the forum.

      All my sites have been hit with the unnatural backlinks notice so I don't use those backlinking methods anymore. My new sites seem to rank for long tail keywords just fine without any backlinks.


      Seo tools

      article marketing robot
      seo link rebot
      senuke
      auto backlink bomb
      auto blog commenter
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      • Profile picture of the author .
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post


        Seo tools

        article marketing robot
        seo link rebot
        senuke
        auto backlink bomb
        auto blog commenter
        there you go here is a genius.. building a full time income with "auto" software.
        Welcome to 2012 buddy, let see how much money you can make with the nice combo of autocraplinks ---> automated ---> adsense

        building mini niche sites to make tiny pennies here and there is the way to failure.
        why?
        FOOOOOOOTPRINT
        what footprint?
        your adsense codeeeee....

        amazes me how many people still think

        If I make 1 site per day and that site makes $1 per day...
        OMG OMG
        in 2 years I'm making $900 per day
        Yep... keep dreaming baby.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by rankinghero View Post

          there you go here is a genius.. building a full time income with "auto" software.
          Welcome to 2012 buddy, let see how much money you can make with the nice combo of autocraplinks ---> automated ---> adsense

          building mini niche sites to make tiny pennies here and there is the way to failure.
          why?
          FOOOOOOOTPRINT
          what footprint?
          your adsense codeeeee....

          amazes me how many people still think

          If I make 1 site per day and that site makes $1 per day...
          OMG OMG
          in 2 years I'm making $900 per day
          Yep... keep dreaming baby.
          If you even bothered to read the entire thread you would know that I don't use these tools anymore. I simply listed tools I used in the past.

          Also my patience is wearing thin with wf members such as yourself, who like to take cheap shots, imply that I'm stupid etc.


          Did you not read this part "All my sites have been hit with the unnatural backlinks notice so I don't use those backlinking methods anymore. My new sites seem to rank for long tail keywords just fine without any backlinks" .

          As a matter of fact I really don't know wth your talking about. I gave advice on how to make large authority sites with great content not small mfa site that you can make in a day.

          I don't even know why I'm explaining myself.
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        • Profile picture of the author mosthost
          Originally Posted by rankinghero View Post

          there you go here is a genius.. building a full time income with "auto" software.
          Welcome to 2012 buddy, let see how much money you can make with the nice combo of autocraplinks ---> automated ---> adsense

          building mini niche sites to make tiny pennies here and there is the way to failure.
          why?
          FOOOOOOOTPRINT
          what footprint?
          your adsense codeeeee....

          amazes me how many people still think

          If I make 1 site per day and that site makes $1 per day...
          OMG OMG
          in 2 years I'm making $900 per day
          Yep... keep dreaming baby.
          Next time, read the thread.
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          • Profile picture of the author GregMarketer
            Nest28,

            Thanks a lot, man, your latest threads are great! I'm starting a site along the guidelines you mention and I'll let you guys know how I'm doing. I fully believe this will work and I'm very grateful for your generous advice. Thanks so much
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by GregMarketer View Post

              Nest28,

              Thanks a lot, man, your latest threads are great! I'm starting a site along the guidelines you mention and I'll let you guys know how I'm doing. I fully believe this will work and I'm very grateful for your generous advice. Thanks so much
              I'm happy that my threads helped you , and good luck, if you need any help just ask.
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Nest28,

    I appreciate your threads and your posts...

    This rankinghero guy just made himself look a little silly because it's pretty obvious that he didn't bother to read this thread and took 1 comment you made out of context...

    Plus your sites are doing better than $1 a day I'm sure...

    And it's funny how these guys like to criticize but then when you ask them a question about a solution or a better way they usually don't have much to say...
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Nest28,

      I appreciate your threads and your posts...

      This rankinghero guy just made himself look a little silly because it's pretty obvious that he didn't bother to read this thread and took 1 comment you made out of context...

      Plus your sites are doing better than $1 a day I'm sure...

      And it's funny how these guys like to criticize but then when you ask them a question about a solution or a better way they usually don't have much to say...
      Thank you I really needed to hear that, I almost let my anger get the best of me. I'm really trying to remain the nice guy everybody knows me as but some people on this forum is making it hard.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by junne View Post

      Thanks for sharing your success story.

      I have a small question regarding pay per click price. How to know which niche pays more, like you are working in a medical field and you know you get paid for 2,3 or 5 per click.

      Like if i am comparing 2 niches insurance and loans how do i know which pays more?
      thanks in advance.
      You could always check adwords or any keyword tool. Both insurance and loans pay well I wouldn't even check.
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    nest28 you are one of the best out here.

    Keep it up man.
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    Did the most recent Google update affect your sites at all?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

      Did the most recent Google update affect your sites at all?
      None of my sites are affected by google's update.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    Awesome stuff man, way to contribute to this forum!
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  • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
    hello ernest,

    i just want to say thank you for your great share
    i have joined this forum almost 1 year (maybe more) with no username. but after reading your post i decide to create username just to say thank you.

    i'll try to follow your guide (and i did). if you don't mind i have a newbie question.

    the recent panda update, is it impact to your site/earning?

    how your backlinking strategy after this crazy panda update?


    thank you very much
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by ceilbleu View Post

      hello ernest,

      i just want to say thank you for your great share
      i have joined this forum almost 1 year (maybe more) with no username. but after reading your post i decide to create username just to say thank you.

      i'll try to follow your guide (and i did). if you don't mind i have a newbie question.

      the recent panda update, is it impact to your site/earning?

      how your backlinking strategy after this crazy panda update?


      thank you very much
      I feel honored you went through the trouble of creating a user name just to say thanks.

      Now to answer your questions, I no longer backlink to my sites. As far as my income goes most of my new sites are incomplete by my standards so I haven't placed adsense on them yet.

      I've had the idea to build a very large site for a while now but was scared of losing money if the site was unsuccessful but recently I've put these fears aside.

      My new site will be at least 500 pages, based on 5 medical careers.

      No exact match domains instead I plan on using a unique name,logo,vids the whole 9 yards.

      In this era of marketing I think it is best to set yourself apart from the rest. Whatever you see everybody else doing, do the opposite, they go left , you go right.

      Everybody followed each other right down the drain, build quality sites and don't backlink to them and you will have nothing to fear from google.


      Edit: I've been getting messages from people that have used my methods on their existing blogs/websites and all say it work. I'm happy that some of you actually took time out to try something new.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Wow great stuff man. Thanks for all the tips. Do you mind if I message you some time? I failed miserably with blogger, and hopefully I can get better at it.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Wow great stuff man. Thanks for all the tips. Do you mind if I message you some time? I failed miserably with blogger, and hopefully I can get better at it.
      Sure message me anytime.
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  • Profile picture of the author samc37
    Hello nest,

    When building your 500 page website, are you going to be using the same strategy you've been, using the long tail keywords that are in the form of questions as the titles for your articles?

    Also, that's pretty amazing that none of your sites got affected by the penguin update, congrats

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
    so, is it mean that we can ignore the competition on our niche, because we used "q&a long tail keyword" that in fact there is no data on any keyword tools.

    for example, u will not find "how many hours do ultrasound technicians work in hospital" on any keyword tool
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  • Profile picture of the author sackboy127
    I think it would be a good idea to start some real SEO as well, if your sites are doing this well with so little effort on the SEO part, I think you could easily triple your visitors within a few months. Just my 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    Great to know that such a strategy can work well. Thanks for telling us the details


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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
    Hey Nest28,

    I have to admire your commitment. Most people give up with writing articles, especially 100. I can see this method working but can't see many people sticking to the discipline of writing around 100 articles for one blog.

    If you get an average of $150 per site, that is truly wonderful and when you times that by 50 = $7500. It proves that if your determined, anything in life is achievable.

    Thanks for sharing
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by samc37 View Post

      Hello nest,

      When building your 500 page website, are you going to be using the same strategy you've been, using the long tail keywords that are in the form of questions as the titles for your articles?

      Also, that's pretty amazing that none of your sites got affected by the penguin update, congrats

      Thanks
      Actually I plan on mixing it up a bit, 35%long tail,35% questions,30% natural articles that deal with the main topic.

      For example recently I had a article written on "how to become a nurse<-not my keyword btw, and while I was reading this article the writer mentioned 2 certificates that are need to become a nurse. So now I want him to write another article explaining what this certificates are why nurses need them.


      Originally Posted by ceilbleu View Post

      so, is it mean that we can ignore the competition on our niche, because we used "q&a long tail keyword" that in fact there is no data on any keyword tools.

      for example, u will not find "how many hours do ultrasound technicians work in hospital" on any keyword tool
      I like this phrase "q&a long tail" can I steal that lol. No as a matter of fact if you were to check for that phrase my threads have become my competition, but normally you only have to deal with yahoo answers as far as competition goes.

      Originally Posted by sackboy127 View Post

      I think it would be a good idea to start some real SEO as well, if your sites are doing this well with so little effort on the SEO part, I think you could easily triple your visitors within a few months. Just my 2 cents.
      The ultrasound site is just a example, my real sites have meta tags, internal linking, etc.
      Originally Posted by Chris- View Post

      Great to know that such a strategy can work well. Thanks for telling us the details


      Chris
      You welcome
      Originally Posted by Ross Petal View Post

      Hey Nest28,

      I have to admire your commitment. Most people give up with writing articles, especially 100. I can see this method working but can't see many people sticking to the discipline of writing around 100 articles for one blog.

      If you get an average of $150 per site, that is truly wonderful and when you times that by 50 = $7500. It proves that if your determined, anything in life is achievable.

      Thanks for sharing
      If I had to write these article I probably wouldn't get far, I use the profits from my sites that do make money to make other sites. I couldn't write a article to save my life, especially one related to the medical field.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    nest28 thank you very much for your great effort to help other people and patiently answer their questions. I want to start a project like this one, but at this moment I don't really have money for a custom domain on blogger, so I was thinking to start with a common blogger domain, do you think it is possible to rank with it? I think it is, because I know for a blogger site without custom domain which is ranked #1-#2 on google for over 2 years now, for over 8.000 exact local searches pm, very stable position. I think google now most care about quality of content, and not about what is the domain name. What others think about it?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      nest28 thank you very much for your great effort to help other people and patiently answer their questions. I want to start a project like this one, but at this moment I don't really have money for a custom domain on blogger, so I was thinking to start with a common blogger domain, do you think it is possible to rank with it? I think it is, because I know for a blogger site without custom domain which is ranked #1-#2 on google for over 2 years now, for over 8.000 exact local searches pm, very stable position. I think google now most care about quality of content, and not about what is the domain name. What others think about it?
      It's defiantly possible to rank a blogspot blog without using a custom domain, in my experience in takes more to get it rank or indexed though. Basically you have to banklink to achieve the same results that a custom domain gets easily without effort.
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    • Profile picture of the author domainarama
      I have many custom and non-custom blogspot domains. There might be a difference. But I'm not sure it's huge difference. In my experience the content of the domain is more important than whether or not it is custom/non-custom.

      A year ago I started a couple dozen domains within a week of each other. Some took a long time (and lots and lots of posts) before they got a significant number of visitors. One -- a blogspot job -- got lots of visitors from the first week. What's interesting is that it got lots of visitors even though it violated Blogger rules (it was a 'make money' domain -- I have since migrated the domain to WP). That experience taught me that content is king, not mathematical formulas about SEO etc.

      IF YOU HAVE BLOGSPOT DOMAINS make sure to back them up once in a while. If you have lots of original content you probably don't have to worry. But you never know about what Google will do, so backing up is a safety precaution.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    It will maybe be even more easier with new google update. After all, it's never late to switch to custom domain, even if you already have many posts. I think I will try it and if I find it too hard I can then switch to custom domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author jefkas
    Good post. I've taken the long tail keyword route for years.. and have made thousands in adsense $$. I never backlink or do any off page seo of any kind. If you build enough long tail keyword sites, you'll make money... and Google algo updates never affect my money. This system is actually far more difficult than mine but I have no doubt it works... based on how my own sites perform.
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    • Profile picture of the author mootonandy
      Nice idea. Seems like the way to go nowadays.
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  • Profile picture of the author TamilYoung
    Thanks for the share! If you don't mind can you share us how many sites you have and what is your average earning per month on a single site? How much time you spend on maintaining the site?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by TamilYoung View Post

      Thanks for the share! If you don't mind can you share us how many sites you have and what is your average earning per month on a single site? How much time you spend on maintaining the site?
      I use to have 15 sites, income ranged from 130.00 to 170.00 per site. Very little maintenance was involved, just sent a couple links a month and that's about it.

      Now I have 7 sites, that are on hold to make way for a new site that I'm working on, I hope to achieve a much higher income with this one site.
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      • Profile picture of the author inter123
        It is all a question of profit, that is the bottom line.

        What is the (cost of 100+ articles) plus (SEO work) plus (other costs e.g. hosting). If I understood right, the sites got hammered by Google in the recent debacle and are (almost) redundant?

        Given all that, did you manage to make a handsome profit for the time you put in?

        As for starting new sites, there is nothing to say the same thing might not happen again. Google does not give a **** about anyone but itself, someone can follow all the guidelines and still end up in the garbage 6 months down the line.

        Not trying to be a hater, just being realistic. Probabaly best to get in, make as much money as possible quickly and get out. Businesses based on search engine ranking is very fickle.