I make a full time adsense income without ranking keywords

by nest28
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Basically I build large sites using blogger custom domains. I don't use any kind of adsense ctr theme or any other commonly used templates. Here is a example of a template i might usefree blogger templates.

I place one adsense block in the sidebar which is only shown on the homepage, the rest will be inside the content to the left. I used to make blog posts that were the exact match as the keyword I wanted to rank, for example if I wanted to rank for registered nurse, than the title of the post would be registered nurse. Now I look for niches that have potential to become large sites, so I stick to medical careers. The medical field pays well, normally I will see 2,3 and 4 dollar clicks. Each site only gets between 80 and 125 visitors a day yet they all make 100.00 to 150.00 a month.

I only backlink the homepage using article marketing ,social bookmarks, forum profiles etc. I don't even try to rank these sites for any keyword, all my traffic come from long tail searches. I use google analytics to see how people got to my site than I use those search terms as post titles. For example , Do I have to be good at math to become a registered nurse, can I become a registered nurse with a g.e.d. , how do I become a registered nurse if I already have a degree in health science


The only thing I do to make a site is search for a medical career, research what kind of degrees and training is required , think of a bunch of questions I can write about and that's it. Each site is 75 to 100 pages.


Edit: 6/4/13

Never use the type of links described above ( article marketing ,social bookmarks, forum profiles etc) they will most defiantly harm your site.
#adsense #full #income #keywords #make #ranking #time
  • Profile picture of the author bcruan
    If this is true, why the hell would you tell everyone??
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Why not, It wont effect me. Besides most people are to lazy to make 10 sites that are a hundred pages each. Also if thats the case why does anyone tell how they make money online. I share this info to help other imer's.
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      • Profile picture of the author yesi
        Hey,

        First I want to thank you for such an inspiring thread. Do you have an example of one of your blog?

        Brgds,
        Yesi
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    • Profile picture of the author metafever
      Originally Posted by bcruan View Post

      If this is true, why the hell would you tell everyone??
      He didn't give up any secrets . . .
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  • Profile picture of the author Legit SEO
    I'm really digging that travel theme. And congrats on your success, I just couldn't imagine writing 100 articles. I'm guessing you outsource most of that work?
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  • Profile picture of the author MonthofMay
    What is the advantage of using a blogger custom domain?
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  • Profile picture of the author bcruan
    There is a big difference between saying how you make money online and telling people one of th exact niches you are going after. Fair enough for sharing but you will be suprised what some people will do for $150 a month!
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    I think the title is a little misleading, you say you're not ranking keywords but you builded links so you did rank keywords indirectly. The juice from your homepage flows through your internal anchor txt's and thus ranks them.
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    • Profile picture of the author RyanLB
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      I think the title is a little misleading, you say you're not ranking keywords but you builded links so you did rank keywords indirectly. The juice from your homepage flows through your internal anchor txt's and thus ranks them.
      This. Just because your not actively targeting keywords doesn't mean that your not ranking for some. I would say, if anything, you are leaving money on the table by taking this approach.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by talkmeow View Post

        I'm really digging that travel theme. And congrats on your success, I just couldn't imagine writing 100 articles. I'm guessing you outsource most of that work?
        yes I use the content authority
        Originally Posted by meihualam View Post

        What is the advantage of using a blogger custom domain?
        none that I know of
        Originally Posted by bcruan View Post

        There is a big difference between saying how you make money online and telling people one of th exact niches you are going after. Fair enough for sharing but you will be suprised what some people will do for $150 a month!
        registered nurse was just example
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        I think the title is a little misleading, you say you're not ranking keywords but you builded links so you did rank keywords indirectly. The juice from your homepage flows through your internal anchor txt's and thus ranks them.
        I suppose that is true, but I just meant that I don't go after keywords with nice amount of local searches, instead I rely on long tail traffic alone

        Originally Posted by RyanLB View Post

        This. Just because your not actively targeting keywords doesn't mean that your not ranking for some. I would say, if anything, you are leaving money on the table by taking this approach.
        This may be true but most of this niches are far to competitive for my taste , it takes to much to rank and maintain your rankings, with this method I do very little backlinking
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          I suppose that is true, but I just meant that I don't go after keywords with nice amount of local searches, instead I rely on long tail traffic alone
          Ah okay, you are certainly doing something good when you make a fulltime income out of it

          A question though, can you use these blogger templates just like wordpress templates on your own hosting or can you only use them when registering an account so that it's some kind of a layout or something? I'm really a total noob on that front.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Ah okay, you are certainly doing something good when you make a fulltime income out of it

            A question though, can you use these blogger templates just like wordpress templates on your own hosting or can you only use them when registering an account so that it's some kind of a layout or something? I'm really a total noob on that front.
            The templates from premium blogger templates are actually wordpress clones that are made for blogspot, I believe they can be used on your own hosting, but I wouldn't know never paid hosting.
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              The templates from premium blogger templates are actually wordpress clones that are made for blogspot, I believe they can be used on your own hosting, but I wouldn't know never paid hosting.
              Yeah that one in that link looks exactly like the theme that I use on one of my sites so was really like, lol what is that.

              The thing I'm a little scared of with free hosting is what happens if they ever quit. Now I don't see Google quitting that fast but they did quit with something else not so long ago (don't remember exactly what it was).
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              • Profile picture of the author nest28
                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                Yeah that one in that link looks exactly like the theme that I use on one of my sites so was really like, lol what is that.

                The thing I'm a little scared of with free hosting is what happens if they ever quit. Now I don't see Google quitting that fast but they did quit with something else not so long ago (don't remember exactly what it was).
                lol, there is a way to migrate blogspot blogs to wordpress, so if google ever decides to change anything thats what I will do.
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                • Profile picture of the author NicheDad
                  Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                  lol, there is a way to migrate blogspot blogs to wordpress, so if google ever decides to change anything thats what I will do.
                  If I were you I'd be using that method now to back up my blogs.
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        • Profile picture of the author RyanLB
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          This may be true but most of this niches are far to competitive for my taste , it takes to much to rank and maintain your rankings, with this method I do very little backlinking
          I see. Well if you want to avoid backlinking then I think the strategy is ok. But you shouldnt be so scared of higher comptition keywords.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by RyanLB View Post

            I see. Well if you want to avoid backlinking then I think the strategy is ok. But you shouldnt be so scared of higher comptition keywords.
            Google seems to be cracking down on backlinking, so how do you propose I rank these high competition keywords without getting a notice of unnatural links message. If this was couple years ago maybe I would go after these type of keywords but I rather not have to go to war with every imer on first page for my keyword. One of my sites is about ultrasound technicians and the first page results for the term change every single day, nobody stays in the top 3 for more than a couple days, and I've seen some sites totally disappear.Correction I've seen a lot of sites disappear.

            Any suggestions as to how I can rank for these keywords without creating hundreds of spam links would be appreciated.
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            • Profile picture of the author dakar
              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              I haven't used adwords in 2 years so idk, plus using adwords in medical field would be expensive.
              Thanks. I was thinking about adwords because it might be a valuable tool in discovering additional longtail keywords as well. But you're right, I would assume the CPC is over $5 in medical fields.

              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              Google seems to be cracking down on backlinking, so how do you propose I rank these high competition keywords without getting a notice of unnatural links message. If this was couple years ago maybe I would go after these type of keywords but I rather not have to go to war with every imer on first page for my keyword. One of my sites is about ultrasound technicians and the first page results for the term change every single day, nobody stays in the top 3 for more than a couple days, and I've seen some sites totally disappear.Correction I've seen a lot of sites disappear.

              Any suggestions as to how I can rank for these keywords without creating hundreds of spam links would be appreciated.
              This isn't a suggestion, as I am not an expert in backlinking, but I would to remind you to think of the other thread about micro niche sites (how i went from $0 to $2000...). According to the thread owner, using UAW is a legit way of backlinking because all they do is submit your articles to directories that are seeking this info. UAW doesn't own the directories.
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              • Profile picture of the author nest28
                Originally Posted by dakar View Post

                Thanks. I was thinking about adwords because it might be a valuable tool in discovering additional longtail keywords as well. But you're right, I would assume the CPC is over $5 in medical fields.



                This isn't a suggestion, as I am not an expert in backlinking, but I would to remind you to think of the other thread about micro niche sites (how i went from $0 to $2000...). According to the thread owner, using UAW is a legit way of backlinking because all they do is submit your articles to directories that are seeking this info. UAW doesn't own the directories.
                I don't think UAW alone or combined with other commonly used links will get me to the number spot for a high competition keyword. UAW is probably best use on micro niche site with low competition. I am actually in middle of making 15 new micro niche sites as well, maybe I will use UAW on those.

                Thank you very much for the suggestion
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                • Profile picture of the author dakar
                  Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                  I don't think UAW alone or combined with other commonly used links will get me to the number spot for a high competition keyword. UAW is probably best use on micro niche site with low competition. I am actually in middle of making 15 new micro niche sites as well, maybe I will use UAW on those.

                  Thank you very much for the suggestion
                  Not a problem
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                • Profile picture of the author Instantfruit
                  Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                  I don't think UAW alone or combined with other commonly used links will get me to the number spot for a high competition keyword. UAW is probably best use on micro niche site with low competition. I am actually in middle of making 15 new micro niche sites as well, maybe I will use UAW on those.

                  Thank you very much for the suggestion
                  Be carefull, I just had a niche site de-indexed due to too much UAW content. Google even kindly emailed me to explain it was my ****e content that caused the issue.

                  I've removed it all, but the site is still invisible.


                  EDIT: actually, just realised your thinking of punting your content via UAW, not using its content - which was what I was reffering too.
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          • Profile picture of the author steveshills
            Nest i just wanna say well done, i got a little confused as i thought you were using blogger blogs without a paid for domain, the reason your method works is that your not building sites based on keyword selection as such, your hitting the bullseye by ranking phases such as HOW TO BE A FULL TIME NURSE.

            I also think that google's not looking at your types of site's because you've built them far past the 4 pages that most other mfa sites have, and i'm not going to judge you because you've come here and shared your info for free, lisa at inline seo doe's the same, all in all well done.

            People come on here and shoot others down, the guys not selling some crap wso, just like when others say that autoblogs dont work, everything works once your willing to build it right, and everyones scared of the panda, adsense and affiliate marketing is no longer a safe business, its just like any other offline business and these are the risk we run when working for ourselves.

            Its time people on the warrior forum stop knocking others that are willing to share, after all the guys not ripping you off with a crap paid product is he.
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      • Profile picture of the author jwmann2
        Originally Posted by RyanLB View Post

        This. Just because your not actively targeting keywords doesn't mean that your not ranking for some. I would say, if anything, you are leaving money on the table by taking this approach.
        Well said. Ranking for keywords is free traffic via Google. By not targeting keywords, you're basically saying you're ok with only making $150 per month when you could potentially make $1500 per month with proper keyword targeting.
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  • Profile picture of the author bigcat1967
    Interesting. I'm creating a mega-site and am using KWs that ppl are using to get to my site...
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    • Profile picture of the author The Expert
      What is the purpose in using blogger? Isn't it true that anything blogger can do Wordpress can do better? It would seem that the only major benefit would be saving on hosting fees.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by bigcat1967 View Post

        Interesting. I'm creating a mega-site and am using KWs that ppl are using to get to my site...
        can't go wrong, even if your rankings drop you will still make money from those articles based on google analytics info

        Originally Posted by gtk29 View Post

        I had never thought of creating pages based on longtail search queries like this. I used small keywords in the title though. Your post has made me think into a new possibility of choosing titles. Thanks
        you welcome

        Originally Posted by The Expert View Post

        What is the purpose in using blogger? Isn't it true that anything blogger can do Wordpress can do better? It would seem that the only major benefit would be saving on hosting fees.
        Blogger just so happens to be the first blogging plate form I ever used, never used wordpress
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        • Profile picture of the author cashtree
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          can't go wrong, even if your rankings drop you will still make money from those articles based on google analytics info


          you welcome



          Blogger just so happens to be the first blogging plate form I ever used, never used wordpress
          wordpress is amazing, and incredibly easy you should consider it, it's of course free as well. My question is do you submit each article to social bookmark sites, or what? Also you write 75+ articles per site then just them sit or what? Or do you have to keep writing?
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

            wordpress is amazing, and incredibly easy you should consider it, it's of course free as well. My question is do you submit each article to social bookmark sites, or what? Also you write 75+ articles per site then just them sit or what? Or do you have to keep writing?
            I only backlink to the home page, the rest of the pages get indexed naturally. I kept meaning to try wordpress but never got around to it, I'm like a old man stuck in his ways afraid of change lol.

            Edit: Now that I think about it these posts get indexed in minutes, if the site is a couple months old.
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            • Profile picture of the author OnlineMkter
              haven't you tried affiliate products as well? May be earning better that adsence, as I have read a lot here where adsence earnings are low comparable, but of course it depends on the niche!
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            • Profile picture of the author cashtree
              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              I only backlink to the home page, the rest of the pages get indexed naturally. I kept meaning to try wordpress but never got around to it, I'm like a old man stuck in his ways afraid of change lol.

              Edit: Now that I think about it these posts get indexed in minutes, if the site is a couple months old.
              Wordpress has free plugins/widgets for just about everything, including SEO, and tons of free templates on their site to choose from that you can also legally remove backlink signature from. Google also seems to love word press too. If you need any help let me know, I can get you going.
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              • Profile picture of the author nest28
                Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

                Wordpress has free plugins/widgets for just about everything, including SEO, and tons of free templates on their site to choose from that you can also legally remove backlink signature from. Google also seems to love word press too. If you need any help let me know, I can get you going.
                Thank you , I'm so behind the time I just did meta tags for 20 article by hand earlier today, plz don't laugh
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                • Profile picture of the author John Wood
                  Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                  Thank you , I'm so behind the time I just did meta tags for 20 article by hand earlier today, plz don't laugh
                  Nothing wrong with been old school
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            • Profile picture of the author successproducts
              Stick to what works best for you. Too many thoughts ideas spoil it all. I thank you for your post first of all. if you ever consider to let my software to help you write quality articles yes I do mean quality ... use my software ...

              My software uses PLR which most of us have -- gathering some kind of dirts somewhere in our hard drive, and yest to use it to rewrite by putting them together by keywords. The idea is of super spun is. Super spun is the method to write one sentence in 10 different ways, 10 paragraphs in 10 different ways and let the power of permutations take over.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Originally Posted by The Expert View Post

        What is the purpose in using blogger? Isn't it true that anything blogger can do Wordpress can do better? It would seem that the only major benefit would be saving on hosting fees.
        Why would you think that? Don't you read this forum? People come
        here to fix something on wordpress...

        Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
        EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
        do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
        anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
        for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
        less. They own the blogging niche.

        Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
        they do the opposite of what MS does.

        With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
        ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
        in the top 5.

        The revelation from this thread should be why would
        people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
        is a goldmine....

        Paul
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Why would you think that? Don't you read this forum? People come
          here to fix something on wordpress...

          Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
          EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
          do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
          anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
          for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
          less. They own the blogging niche.

          Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
          they do the opposite of what MS does.

          With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
          ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
          in the top 5.

          The revelation from this thread should be why would
          people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
          is a goldmine....

          Paul
          I totally agree
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        • Profile picture of the author Hydraman
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Why would you think that? Don't you read this forum? People come
          here to fix something on wordpress...

          Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
          EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
          do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
          anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
          for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
          less. They own the blogging niche.

          Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
          they do the opposite of what MS does.

          With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
          ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
          in the top 5.

          The revelation from this thread should be why would
          people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
          is a goldmine....

          Paul
          Very interesting!
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        • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Why would you think that? Don't you read this forum? People come
          here to fix something on wordpress...

          Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
          EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
          do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
          anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
          for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
          less. They own the blogging niche.

          Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
          they do the opposite of what MS does.

          With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
          ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
          in the top 5.

          The revelation from this thread should be why would
          people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
          is a goldmine....

          Paul
          because you are subject to their rules, (read Google) and they could shut your site down with a snap of a finger.

          When you register your own domain, acquire hosting, and install WordPress on it, then that's YOUR virtual real estate, not Google's. You now have an investment, that you can turn around and sell later on if you wish, for huge sums of money.


          Don't ever rely on third-parties for your business. I'm sorry, but it's not very smart.

          To the OP, I hope you are backing up your sites somehow (export function?)

          do it now, before they decide to shut you down for some perceived violation.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by Karen Blundell View Post

            because you are subject to their rules, (read Google) and they could shut your site down with a snap of a finger.

            When you register your own domain, acquire hosting, and install WordPress on it, then that's YOUR virtual real estate, not Google's. You now have an investment, that you can turn around and sell later on if you wish, for huge sums of money.


            Don't ever rely on third-parties for your business. I'm sorry, but it's not very smart.

            To the OP, I hope you are backing up your sites somehow (export function?)

            do it now, before they decide to shut you down for some perceived violation.
            All of my blogs are backed up using export blog feature. I figure if anything happen I could import my blogs to wordpress and 301 redirect my old site to the new wordpress sites, in the event that google closes my blogger account.

            I'll probably make this new site on wordpress.
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            • Profile picture of the author mosthost
              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              All of my blogs are backed up using export blog feature. I figure if anything happen I could import my blogs to wordpress and 301 redirect my old site to the new wordpress sites, in the event that google closes my blogger account.

              I'll probably make this new site on wordpress.
              I don't see any great danger in using Blogspot for the reason you suggested.

              BTW, Wordpress.com also has free blogs that you can use before deciding if you want to commit to additional hosting.

              You should also consider website builders for websites where you don't plan on updating forever. They're easy to learn to use for anyone and very search engine friendly.
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        • Profile picture of the author rvillanu4
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Why would you think that? Don't you read this forum? People come
          here to fix something on wordpress...

          Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
          EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
          do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
          anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
          for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
          less. They own the blogging niche.

          Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
          they do the opposite of what MS does.

          With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
          ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
          in the top 5.

          The revelation from this thread should be why would
          people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
          is a goldmine....

          Paul
          Sorry for responding to this old posts. I created a blog under wordpress.com and was disappointed. Blogger, in my opinion is better. I'm sort of a newbie so when I was trying to place Adsense code into wordpress, it wouldn't let me (maybe I need plugins - don't know) so I am back to using Blogger.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rockerpreneur
          Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
          EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
          do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
          anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
          for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
          less. They own the blogging niche.

          Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
          they do the opposite of what MS does.

          With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
          ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
          in the top 5.

          The revelation from this thread should be why would
          people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
          is a goldmine....

          Paul[/QUOTE]

          Thank you for this post!
          Now I'm thinking about using Wordpress ONLY to build a site that I'm prepare to sell (because this is what they want). But change to using Blogger for a site that I keep for myself Now I need to learn more about Blogger.
          Thank you also for nest28 for sharing your success.
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        • Profile picture of the author AndreAyton
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Why would you think that? Don't you read this forum? People come
          here to fix something on wordpress...

          Blogspot needs no fixing. It comes SEO'd right out of the box
          EXACTLY the way google wishes all sites were. Nothing to
          do. You can put adsense, javascript, your ads, links, etc.
          anywhere you wish with the touch of a mouse. No need
          for any nonsense plugins. Google would want nothing
          less. They own the blogging niche.

          Funny how when google buys something, like say blogger,
          they do the opposite of what MS does.

          With blogger, youtube, and google, they own 3 of the top
          ten most visited websites. On many lists, these are all
          in the top 5.

          The revelation from this thread should be why would
          people not harness the power of blogspot? Man it
          is a goldmine....

          Paul
          Exactly what i was thinking
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  • Profile picture of the author gtk29
    I had never thought of creating pages based on longtail search queries like this. I used small keywords in the title though. Your post has made me think into a new possibility of choosing titles. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author ishuvonet
    Well thanks for sharing your method as a few successful people in adsense hardly like to share their secret sauce.As far your method concern I like it.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by OnlineMkter View Post

      haven't you tried affiliate products as well? May be earning better that adsence, as I have read a lot here where adsence earnings are low comparable, but of course it depends on the niche!
      There are a million ways to make money online and I have chosen mine. Some niches pay only a few cents , so its best to stick with high paying ones. If I had my way all my sites would be about dragon ball z my fav cartoon btw.



      Originally Posted by ishuvonet View Post

      Well thanks for sharing your method as a few successful people in adsense hardly like to share their secret sauce.As far your method concern I like it.
      Its enough room for everybody, and with this method I don't have to worry about somebody coming along and knocking me out of the number one spot because I wasn't there to begin with. Glad you like
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  • Profile picture of the author febbelli
    great thread, lots of useful info here! how many exact searches / month would you say the long tails keywords you target get?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by febbelli View Post

      great thread, lots of useful info here! how many exact searches / month would you say the long tails keywords you target get?
      well at first I rank the site using all of the easiest keywords I can find, normally these keywords will be between 200 and 600 searches a month. Once the site starts getting visitors I check analytics and see what people type in to get to my site , after that I use those search terms as title and articles. The beauty of that is your actually making a site that google will love because it's for people. I simply answer my visitors questions.
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      • Profile picture of the author patrich
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        well at first I rank the site using all of the easiest keywords I can find, normally these keywords will be between 200 and 600 searches a month. Once the site starts getting visitors I check analytics and see what people type in to get to my site , after that I use those search terms as title and articles. The beauty of that is your actually making a site that google will love because it's for people. I simply answer my visitors questions.

        I usually stay out of these types of threads because they often turn into pissing matches, but, I wanted to say that I think it is sad that several of the people above have given you such a hard time about the method that you posted.

        I earn thousands of dollars a month from adsense and have first hand experience with doing exactly what you have laid out here, and it does work. Not only that, but it works very well. You have highlighted a method that anyone can get started with, requires very little experience or start-up money and can get you turning a profit very quickly.

        While I tend to chase a lot of higher competition search terms, even to this day I write articles based on longtail search terms that people are using to find the my websites naturally. If people aren't chasing those longtails that are referring them traffic, they are missing out on a lot of opportunities to increase their earnings.

        Anyways, thank you for taking the time to share this information with others. Especially at a time when so many people are in panic about seo, etc. If nothing else, hopefully it will get a few people looking at new ways to increase their traffic and their adsense earnings.

        P.S.

        I recommend Clicky Analytics for tracking visitors and getting a good analysis of the longtail terms that people are using to find their sites:

        Web Analytics in Real Time | Clicky
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  • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
    So initially how many posts do you put on your site and which keywords do you use for these posts to start seeing those long tails to make new posts on?

    Is it your homepage the page that ranks for those super lon tail kws and then you make a post using that keyword so then that internal page and homepage both rank for that term?

    If I'm missing something here can you elaborate on how you set up your sites?
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    • Profile picture of the author Spectresoft
      Very interesting! Would you mind telling us what your average post length is, in words?

      Awesome thread btw and congratulations.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

      So initially how many posts do you put on your site and which keywords do you use for these posts to start seeing those long tails to make new posts on?

      Is it your homepage the page that ranks for those super lon tail kws and then you make a post using that keyword so then that internal page and homepage both rank for that term?

      If I'm missing something here can you elaborate on how you set up your sites?
      I start each site with 20 pages not including contact,privacy and about us page. Most people will start there site off with keywords that have a local search count of 1000 or higher but I have found the higher the local search the higher the competition will be. So I go after a bunch of keywords that have 290, 380,560 you know the ones you filter out in micro niche finder because the search count is to low. They are really is to get traffic, it only takes my site 20 visitors a day to start making money.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by Spectresoft View Post

        Very interesting! Would you mind telling us what your average post length is, in words?

        Awesome thread btw and congratulations.
        thank you, 400 words sometimes 500

        Originally Posted by patrich View Post

        I usually stay out of these types of threads because they often turn into pissing matches, but, I wanted to say that I think it is sad that several of the people above have given you such a hard time about the method that you posted.

        I earn thousands of dollars a month from adsense and have first hand experience with doing exactly what you have laid out here, and it does work. Not only that, but it works very well. You have highlighted a method that anyone can get started with, requires very little experience or start-up money and can get you turning a profit very quickly.

        While I tend to chase a lot of higher competition search terms, even to this day I write articles based on longtail search terms that people are using to find the my websites naturally. If people aren't chasing those longtails that are referring them traffic, they are missing out on a lot of opportunities to increase their earnings.

        Anyways, thank you for taking the time to share this information with others. Especially at a time when so many people are in panic about seo, etc. If nothing else, hopefully it will get a few people looking at new ways to increase their traffic and their adsense earnings.

        P.S.

        I recommend Clicky Analytics for tracking visitors and getting a good analysis of the longtail terms that people are using to find their sites:

        Web Analytics in Real Time | Clicky
        Nice to know I'm not alone

        Originally Posted by John Wood View Post

        Nothing wrong with been old school
        lol my birthday was couple days ago, just turn 30 now everybody calling me old
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      • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I start each site with 20 pages not including contact,privacy and about us page. Most people will start there site off with keywords that have a local search count of 1000 or higher but I have found the higher the local search the higher the competition will be. So I go after a bunch of keywords that have 290, 380,560 you know the ones you filter out in micro niche finder because the search count is to low. They are really is to get traffic, it only takes my site 20 visitors a day to start making money.
        Thanks for that info and continued success. I did have a few more questions if you don't mind.

        So from these first 20 low hanging fruit keywords do you take 1 and use that as the exact match domain name?

        Do you pick at random one of these kws to get a domain or you use the one with highest search volume from the first 20?

        Also once your site is up with these 20 posts the traffic you initially get is that coming from the homepage mostly or do you get some of these internal pages ranking on first page for these long tail keywords?

        Do you have like just a static homepage with 1 post that matches the domain keyword anf have links on there to all your internal pages or do you have like 10-15 posts all on the homepage and just backlink the homepage url with a mix of anchor text of your keywords?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by imwantob View Post

          WOW !!! Great thread - thank you so much for sharing your experience with us. As soon as I finish this post I'm going to look into a Blogger acct.
          Your welcome good luck

          Originally Posted by carlhenson View Post

          That is good. You didn't intentionally rank for specific keywords but instead you ranked for it.
          It actually all happen by accident , I was just trying to follow x-factors authority site model and found that these large sites can make money without even ranking on first page

          Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

          Thanks for that info and continued success. I did have a few more questions if you don't mind.

          So from these first 20 low hanging fruit keywords do you take 1 and use that as the exact match domain name?

          Do you pick at random one of these kws to get a domain or you use the one with highest search volume from the first 20?

          Also once your site is up with these 20 posts the traffic you initially get is that coming from the homepage mostly or do you get some of these internal pages ranking on first page for these long tail keywords?

          Do you have like just a static homepage with 1 post that matches the domain keyword anf have links on there to all your internal pages or do you have like 10-15 posts all on the homepage and just backlink the homepage url with a mix of anchor text of your keywords?
          Sometimes I will pick the keyword with the highest search while other times I will make it a vague domain name, like so you want to be a nurse.com or nursing information.com. My home pages normally has 5 to 7 posts. Most of my traffic lands on inner pages not the home page.

          Feel free to ask all the questions you want, I may have a few myself lol I am also here to learn.
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          • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            Your welcome good luck


            It actually all happen by accident , I was just trying to follow x-factors authority site model and found that these large sites can make money without even ranking on first page



            Sometimes I will pick the keyword with the highest search while other times I will make it a vague domain name, like so you want to be a nurse.com or nursing information.com. My home pages normally has 5 to 7 posts. Most of my traffic lands on inner pages not the home page.

            Feel free to ask all the questions you want, I may have a few myself lol I am also here to learn.
            When doing your backlinking do you just build backlinks to the homepage or the internal pages as well?

            Do you just use the a mix of the 20 or so keywords that you have posts on as far as anchor texts for your backlinks?

            Also do you bother with checking the competition at all say in MNF (if keywords have SOC of under 50) even when exact match search volumes are like 200-300/month or it doesn't matter with your method?
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by Innovator3 View Post

              That's quite a number of pages. When you're building these sites, where do you get the content from?

              Also, how do you determine which keywords or google adsense ads will pay the most? I have a number of adsense ads on some of my pages and they'll pay anywhere between $.10 to $1 per click. How can I increase the dollar amount or improve my adsense income?
              I used to check spyfu or micro niche finder to see how much a keyword pays but now all I do is stay in high paying niches, I don't even check anymore.
              I get my articles from The Content Authority .

              Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

              When doing your backlinking do you just build backlinks to the homepage or the internal pages as well?

              Do you just use the a mix of the 20 or so keywords that you have posts on as far as anchor texts for your backlinks?

              Also do you bother with checking the competition at all say in MNF (if keywords have SOC of under 50) even when exact match search volumes are like 200-300/month or it doesn't matter with your method?
              I usually backlink to the homepage but sometimes to the inner pages as well. Yes I use the 20 keywords as anchor text plus variations of those words.
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              • Profile picture of the author Innovator3
                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                I used to check spyfu or micro niche finder to see how much a keyword pays but now all I do is stay in high paying niches, I don't even check anymore.
                I get my articles from The Content Authority .
                Thanks for the quick response and the info. When you say "all I do is stay in high paying niches," how do you find out which ones those are?
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              • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

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                I usually backlink to the homepage but sometimes to the inner pages as well. Yes I use the 20 keywords as anchor text plus variations of those words.
                What about keyword competition? Do you focus on that for these first 20 keywords or not necessary since search volume is low?

                Also I assume you are working with "exact" match search volume and not broad or phrase correct?
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                • Profile picture of the author nest28
                  Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

                  What about keyword competition? Do you focus on that for these first 20 keywords or not necessary since search volume is low?

                  Also I assume you are working with "exact" match search volume and not broad or phrase correct?
                  There's really no competition for the first 20 keyword because of the low local search, and yes this is based on exact match
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffduhon
    Congrats on the success.
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    Bringing others with me on the way to the top!

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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by jeffduhon View Post

      Congrats on the success.
      Thanx, there were many times I was about to quit and few times I did.
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  • Profile picture of the author imwantob
    WOW !!! Great thread - thank you so much for sharing your experience with us. As soon as I finish this post I'm going to look into a Blogger acct.
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  • Profile picture of the author carlhenson
    That is good. You didn't intentionally rank for specific keywords but instead you ranked for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Innovator3
    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

    The only thing I do to make a site is search for a medical career, research what kind of degrees and training is required , think of a bunch of questions I can write about and that's it. Each site is 75 to 100 pages.

    That's quite a number of pages. When you're building these sites, where do you get the content from?

    Also, how do you determine which keywords or google adsense ads will pay the most? I have a number of adsense ads on some of my pages and they'll pay anywhere between $.10 to $1 per click. How can I increase the dollar amount or improve my adsense income?
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Also it does not take a hundred pages to make money I make around 30 dollars a month with site that have 25 to 40 ages but once I build them out they make more.
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    • Profile picture of the author kiwiviktor81
      So is $1 per page per month a pretty acurrate metric for you? Thanks for this info, I have a health site doing that and I figure it could be an earner if I went from its current 30 pages to 100+.
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  • Profile picture of the author Innovator3
    Interesting list you got there. This may seem redundant for me to ask, but that you typed out... how did you find out those are high paying niches? Are you doing research using Google's keyword tool, or another software, website, etc to find out which keywords and niches are the high paying ones?
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  • Profile picture of the author cashtree
    That list essentially useless now but yeah how do youfind these high paying, low competition?
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  • Profile picture of the author StoneWilson
    For me the main problem is where can I find 10 beneficial niches and 100+ quality articles to post on them. And how long will it take to get 100+ visitors for each blog? Because according to personal experience, for those niches which got high click price, longtail keywords are also very competitive.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by cashtree View Post

      That list essentially useless now but yeah how do youfind these high paying, low competition?
      the keywords in the list will lead you to other keywords if you put them in micro niche finder or any keyword tool.

      Originally Posted by StoneWilson View Post

      For me the main problem is where can I find 10 beneficial niches and 100+ quality articles to post on them. And how long will it take to get 100+ visitors for each blog? Because according to personal experience, for those niches which got high click price, longtail keywords are also very competitive.
      The long tail traffic you will get wont be listed in any keyword tool so there wont be competition , I will copy and paste search terms from my own site to show you what I mean In the morning.
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  • Profile picture of the author DPM70
    Great post nest28. I'm interested in any system that targets the long tails and doesn't worry too much about chasing down specific keywords. Way too much time is wasted on ranking one or two phrases, in my opinion, when good content - and lots of it - will grow nice, sustainable traffic over time. You also don't risk the wrath of Google with over-zealous backlinking methods. Good job!
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by DPM70 View Post

      Great post nest28. I'm interested in any system that targets the long tails and doesn't worry too much about chasing down specific keywords. Way too much time is wasted on ranking one or two phrases, in my opinion, when good content - and lots of it - will grow nice, sustainable traffic over time. You also don't risk the wrath of Google with over-zealous backlinking methods. Good job!
      yes exactly, and if you get a manual review I don't think you will have anything to worry about with a 100 page site that does nothing but deliver information that your visitors are searching for.
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    • Profile picture of the author markowe
      Originally Posted by DPM70 View Post

      Great post nest28. I'm interested in any system that targets the long tails and doesn't worry too much about chasing down specific keywords. Way too much time is wasted on ranking one or two phrases, in my opinion, when good content - and lots of it - will grow nice, sustainable traffic over time. You also don't risk the wrath of Google with over-zealous backlinking methods. Good job!
      ^^^^ this.

      I am also thinking we should end this conversation now :-) ! But OP is right, most people are too lazy to write this much content, or can't because they don't have the necessary abilities or budget.
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      • Profile picture of the author Loloy Diango
        Originally Posted by markowe View Post

        ^^^^ this.

        I am also thinking we should end this conversation now :-) ! But OP is right, most people are too lazy to write this much content, or can't because they don't have the necessary abilities or budget.
        Then I guess content curation is a good option to take.
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  • Profile picture of the author unikbit
    so how much cost you to have an websites with 100 pages?
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    • Profile picture of the author winrar
      I want to know this also.

      Originally Posted by unikbit View Post

      so how much cost you to have an websites with 100 pages?
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by unikbit View Post

        so how much cost you to have an websites with 100 pages?
        Most imer's wont like this price tag but 400, that is using the content authority , is you use fiverr or odesk I'm sure those costs can be cut in half. Also I don't pay all at once I add content little at a time say 20 pages a month.

        Originally Posted by FridaK View Post

        Very inspirational. How do you organize rubrics in your website? I mean, if you answer many useful questions, how do your visitors navigate through your page to find what they are looking for?
        I normally set up my sites as such ...

        career salary training schools questions about us contact privacy

        in that order, people normally only stay to read the answer to their first question, but time on site, for all my blogs is 2 min
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        • Profile picture of the author febbelli
          I really like this thread, and I've tried to rank really low comp long tail keywords in the past but found that the traffic just wasn't there. I just don't understand how you get the traffic ranking terms with such low search volume. Like you mentioned looking at your analytics acct to see what people are searching to to get to your site, and then you make a post on that. What I don't get is if these people get to your site already searching that term why make another post on it? sorry if this in confusing. If you could elaborate a little more on how you find these long tail terms or how many searches they get if any that would be great. Great post with lots of good information and tips, thanks !
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by febbelli View Post

            I really like this thread, and I've tried to rank really low comp long tail keywords in the past but found that the traffic just wasn't there. I just don't understand how you get the traffic ranking terms with such low search volume. Like you mentioned looking at your analytics acct to see what people are searching to to get to your site, and then you make a post on that. What I don't get is if these people get to your site already searching that term why make another post on it? sorry if this in confusing. If you could elaborate a little more on how you find these long tail terms or how many searches they get if any that would be great. Great post with lots of good information and tips, thanks !
            Ok here is a prime example of why I make a whole article on the subject, I had a article that mention having a g.e.d. but still being able to become a nurse. So there would be a few visitors who would get to my site by typing in can I become a nurse with a g.e.d. but once a made a article on the subject I started to receive more traffic. The difference in traffic is not much probably go from 2 visitors a day from that term to 12 . Now that I think about it even tho they land on inner pages most of my money comes from adsense placed in side bar on homepage. The rest comes from articles based on schools or salary.
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  • Profile picture of the author FridaK
    Very inspirational. How do you organize rubrics in your website? I mean, if you answer many useful questions, how do your visitors navigate through your page to find what they are looking for?
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Here are some search terms from google analytics, I going replace my keyword with the word nurse


    how can i become a nurse with a bs in health science?
    how can i get my nurse
    how can technology change a nurse job?\
    how can you become an nurse after you are an nurse
    how do i become a nurse specialist in sf ca
    how do i find a nurse associates degree program accredited
    how do i find out if they did my nurse test correctly
    how do i get my nurse certificate ri
    how do technicians read reports
    how do nurse math
    how do nurses service people?
    how do nurses use algebra
    how do nurses work with waves?
    how do nurse differ from other imaging machines
    how do waves relate to nurse
    how do you becom a tech in a hospital
    how do you like your job as an nurse
    how do you use math as an nurse
    how does being a nurse relate to waves?
    how does diagnosis benefit technology?
    how does it take to become nurse

    As you can see people always ask how can they do this , how can they do that. Here
    are some more examples.


    do you need experience to be a nurser
    do you need math for being an nurse
    do you need math for nurse assistant
    do you need math to be a nurse
    do you need to be good at maths to be a marketing manager
    do you need to be licensed to be an nurse
    do you need to go to college to become a nurse
    do you need to know a lot of math to become an nurse?
    do you study math to be a nurse
    do yu have to do math being a nurse tech

    Looking at these terms I'm guessing it would be a good idea to make a article -Do I have to be good at math to become a nurse, your post title should be as close to the terms as possible and the article should answer this question.





    high school classes for nurse
    high school classes needed for a nurse
    high school classes needed for becoming a nurse
    high school classes required for nurse
    high school classes to take for nurse
    high school classes to take if becoming nurse
    high school courses needed to be an nurse
    high school courses needed to be nurse
    high school courses to become a nurse
    high school degree want to study nursing in nyc
    high school subjects needed for nursing



    hospital job for nurse in center city
    hospital technician training slary
    hospital nurse jobs
    hospitals that train technicians
    hospitals that will train you to be a great nurse

    None of these terms can be found in any keyword tool but these searches do exist and if you make articles based on these long tail searches you will get visitors to these articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author thatkeywordguy
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      Here are some search terms from google analytics, I going replace my keyword with the word nurse

      how can i become a nurse with a bs in health science?
      how can i get my nurse
      how can technology change a nurse job?
      how can you become an nurse after you are an nurse
      how do i become a nurse specialist in sf ca
      how do i find a nurse associates degree program accredited
      how do i find out if they did my nurse test correctly
      how do i get my nurse certificate ri
      how do technicians read reports
      how do nurse math
      how do nurses service people?
      how do nurses use algebra
      how do nurses work with waves?
      how do nurse differ from other imaging machines
      how do waves relate to nurse
      how do you becom a tech in a hospital
      how do you like your job as an nurse
      how do you use math as an nurse
      how does being a nurse relate to waves?
      how does diagnosis benefit technology?
      how does it take to become nurse
      do you need experience to be a nurser
      do you need math for being an nurse
      do you need math for nurse assistant
      do you need math to be a nurse
      do you need to be good at maths to be a marketing manager
      do you need to be licensed to be an nurse
      do you need to go to college to become a nurse
      do you need to know a lot of math to become an nurse?
      do you study math to be a nurse
      do yu have to do math being a nurse tech
      high school classes for nurse
      high school classes needed for a nurse
      high school classes needed for becoming a nurse
      high school classes required for nurse
      high school classes to take for nurse
      high school classes to take if becoming nurse
      high school courses needed to be an nurse
      high school courses needed to be nurse
      high school courses to become a nurse
      high school degree want to study nursing in nyc
      high school subjects needed for nursing
      hospital job for nurse in center city
      hospital technician training slary
      hospital nurse jobs
      hospitals that train technicians
      hospitals that will train you to be a great nurse

      None of these terms can be found in any keyword tool but these searches do exist and if you make articles based on these long tail searches you will get visitors to these articles.
      ok cool

      so above are some examples from the previous page of the thread.

      You mentioned that these can't be found in a keyword tool but I think mine can find some of them.

      you'd just have to type in words like this into the tool:

      how * nurse
      how * nursing
      do * a nurse
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by thatkeywordguy View Post

        ok cool

        so above are some examples from the previous page of the thread.

        You mentioned that these can't be found in a keyword tool but I think mine can find some of them.

        you'd just have to type in words like this into the tool:

        how * nurse
        how * nursing
        do * a nurse
        1.keyword tool
        2.ask.com
        3.yahoo answers
        4.google analytics

        After using all of the above tools everyone should be able to find long tail keywords or questions centered around your niche.
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        • Profile picture of the author dakar
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          1.keyword tool
          2.ask.com
          3.yahoo answers
          4.google analytics

          After using all of the above tools everyone should be able to find long tail keywords or questions centered around your niche.
          Thanks Ernest. Great list. I have another question about your sample site (thepsychiatricnursepractitioner)

          1) Why did you decide to use the same H1 tag throughout the site?
          Why would you not make the H1 tag the same as the title tag on each question/page.

          2) Would the results be any different if you used the H1 tag as the title?

          Thanks
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by dakar View Post

            Thanks Ernest. Great list. I have another question about your sample site (thepsychiatricnursepractitioner)

            1) Why did you decide to use the same H1 tag throughout the site?
            Why would you not make the H1 tag the same as the title tag on each question/page.

            2) Would the results be any different if you used the H1 tag as the title?

            Thanks
            I'm not done with seo or appearance of the site, in fact I'm waiting till warriors stop visiting to change the template build site out and add adsense. I didn't care about this site at first that's why I used in it as a example but now I kinda like it lol.
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            • Profile picture of the author dakar
              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              I'm not done with seo or appearance of the site, in fact I'm waiting till warriors stop visiting to change the template build site out and add adsense. I didn't care about this site at first that's why I used in it as a example but now I kinda like it lol.
              i see. thanks. so when you eventually customize it the way you want, would you always have the H1 tag be the title of the page?
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  • Profile picture of the author cmorrow
    @NETST28 Thanks for the post and being open

    How long does it usually take to rank for the really long tail keywords low competition I have a few i want to target that per google adwords they bring in 10,000 vistors a month per long tail keyword.

    If your launching one of these niche blog sites for seo whats some action steps to take
    backlinks for home page
    articles
    xml site map ??

    Thanks again
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  • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
    When you first launch a site do you have all 20 posts up or do you have maybe half up and then drip feed the rest over the first month and then another 20 over the next month and so on?
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  • Profile picture of the author DarrenHaynes
    Great to read this thread, and how you are answering everyone's questions. It is a solid plan you got going. I make a full time living from adsense, but have always gone straight for ranking the 10,000 to 20,000 juicy keywords and then picking off the long tails in my analytics. I have one site that makes about 5k a month like this. However, I do get tired of the backlinking battles, and what to try some different methods, and yours looks great.

    I would never have considered using blogger before, but I am going to build a site or 2 based on what you are describing here.

    I have understood what you are saying here, but I have one question :-)

    What quality level article do you buy from the content authority?

    Oh, and did you outsource the lot, or write any your self? Personally I will be doing both, but am curious as to what you do.

    Also, do you add pics and / or vids to your posts or you stick with plain writing?
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    hey very cool. Yeah it's crazy how you read posts like this on the forum and you get all these users chime in on trying to talk a little smack and basically bash you for trying to give free info on getting decent adsense income.

    If those same people that complain about a method that works...would actually go out and spend time actually creating a site that made money...instead of denying it works..well then I think we would have a lot more happy IMers.

    BTW, this method works very well and will continue to work well simply because you're giving the user what they ask for...and google will reward you with that. No secret really.
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  • Profile picture of the author dminorfmajor
    Thanks for sharing man. It's the little things like using super long-tail keywords you find from analytics as post titles that most everyone wouldn't think of. Bravo sir.
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  • Profile picture of the author 9ball
    good thread,

    yes we can rank for many keywords, even without SEO. My friend know nothing about seo, he is blogging for fun and receive a lot of traffic. I ask him to put G analytics in his blog to track where are the visitors come from. Guess what? 80% is organic traffic from google without knowing & practicing seo
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  • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
    Any recommendations of a WP theme that is similar, clean, and easy to use like this one:

    TravelPro Blogger Template | Premium Blogger Templates|Blogspot Themes Live Demo From Premium Blogger Templates|Blogspot Themes

    Or can we install this on our own domain that has WP installed already?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by cmorrow View Post

      @NETST28 Thanks for the post and being open

      How long does it usually take to rank for the really long tail keywords low competition I have a few i want to target that per google adwords they bring in 10,000 vistors a month per long tail keyword.

      If your launching one of these niche blog sites for seo whats some action steps to take
      backlinks for home page
      articles
      xml site map ??

      Thanks again

      I have seen articles get index in a matter of minutes and start to bringing traffic right away.

      Wordpress has plug ins for meta tags but i do mine manually for the homepage and each article. this will put the blog post title first and the name of the blog second. I submit a site map to web master tools, and after that I post the articles that I outsource as soon as they are ready.


      Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

      When you first launch a site do you have all 20 posts up or do you have maybe half up and then drip feed the rest over the first month and then another 20 over the next month and so on?
      no particular order as soon as the articles are ready I post them

      Originally Posted by DarrenHaynes View Post

      Great to read this thread, and how you are answering everyone's questions. It is a solid plan you got going. I make a full time living from adsense, but have always gone straight for ranking the 10,000 to 20,000 juicy keywords and then picking off the long tails in my analytics. I have one site that makes about 5k a month like this. However, I do get tired of the backlinking battles, and what to try some different methods, and yours looks great.

      I would never have considered using blogger before, but I am going to build a site or 2 based on what you are describing here.

      I have understood what you are saying here, but I have one question :-)

      What quality level article do you buy from the content authority?

      Oh, and did you outsource the lot, or write any your self? Personally I will be doing both, but am curious as to what you do.

      Also, do you add pics and / or vids to your posts or you stick with plain writing?
      Congrats on your success'

      I out source all content, grammar has always been weakness for me.
      I will post a article that I paid for so you can judge the quality.
      And as for those backlinking battles you mention, I grew tired of them. One minute your number 1 than the next your 10, not to mention spending 10 to 20 percent of your profit on outsourcing backlinks.
      no pics except in the slider or header, because I embed adsense inside the content, normally thats were pics would go. I put one youtube video related to the blog topic in the sidebar along with a poll asking visitors questions about the video like was this video helpful,
      Originally Posted by tylerjaysen View Post

      hey very cool. Yeah it's crazy how you read posts like this on the forum and you get all these users chime in on trying to talk a little smack and basically bash you for trying to give free info on getting decent adsense income.

      If those same people that complain about a method that works...would actually go out and spend time actually creating a site that made money...instead of denying it works..well then I think we would have a lot more happy IMers.

      BTW, this method works very well and will continue to work well simply because you're giving the user what they ask for...and google will reward you with that. No secret really.
      Thank you, and yea the very first reply was some guy saying hey if this works why the hell are you sharing, I felt angry at first but than i just was like hey maybe this will help people reach their dreams of steady online income.

      Originally Posted by dminorfmajor View Post

      Thanks for sharing man. It's the little things like using super long-tail keywords you find from analytics as post titles that most everyone wouldn't think of. Bravo sir.
      thank you

      Originally Posted by NicheDad View Post

      If I were you I'd be using that method now to back up my blogs.
      I looking into it now

      Originally Posted by 9ball View Post

      good thread,

      yes we can rank for many keywords, even without SEO. My friend know nothing about seo, he is blogging for fun and receive a lot of traffic. I ask him to put G analytics in his blog to track where are the visitors come from. Guess what? 80% is organic traffic from google without knowing & practicing seo
      same here almost all traffic is from google, I think this is good for keeping your adsense account in good standing.

      Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

      Any recommendations of a WP theme that is similar, clean, and easy to use like this one:

      TravelPro Blogger Template | Premium Blogger Templates|Blogspot Themes Live Demo From Premium Blogger Templates|Blogspot Themes

      Or can we install this on our own domain that has WP installed already?
      well those template are wordpress clones for blogger so I imagine there should be free wordpress templates for you to use that look exactly the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsced
    I did the exact same thing with a natural remedies website and get all my traffic from long tail keywords. On average 300 visitors find the site through keywords I never try to rank for. If you have 80 - 100 articles on a site that are all related in some way then you pretty much have all of the keywords people search for in your content.

    It's easy to create a website this way and the work is far less since you have to do very little backlinking. Another positive aspect of this approach is that when you do decide to go after a competitive search term related to the other posts, you do not have to do as much backlinking to that keyword as Google already recognizes that your website centered around that niche.

    If it's adsense you are focusing on then you could write half decent articles that take 30 minutes to write. You could write 3 posts every day (1 1/2 hours) and have 90 articles written by the end of the month.

    These sites are best suited for adsense and opt-ins and after a couple of months Google will be very aware that your website is constantly updated and every post you write will be indexed within 30 minutes.
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    • Profile picture of the author dakar
      Originally Posted by retsced View Post

      I did the exact same thing with a natural remedies website and get all my traffic from long tail keywords. On average 300 visitors find the site through keywords I never try to rank for. If you have 80 - 100 articles on a site that are all related in some way then you pretty much have all of the keywords people search for in your content.

      It's easy to create a website this way and the work is far less since you have to do very little backlinking. Another positive aspect of this approach is that when you do decide to go after a competitive search term related to the other posts, you do not have to do as much backlinking to that keyword as Google already recognizes that your website centered around that niche.

      If it's adsense you are focusing on then you could write half decent articles that take 30 minutes to write. You could write 3 posts every day (1 1/2 hours) and have 90 articles written by the end of the month.

      These sites are best suited for adsense and opt-ins and after a couple of months Google will be very aware that your website is constantly updated and every post you write will be indexed within 30 minutes.
      Correct me if I'm wrong,

      But if you are trying to write articles for a niche that you know nothing about, a 500 word article is surely going to take more time than 30 minutes to complete. Don't you need to do your research on the subject first? That alone could take a few hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author CesarWarrior
    so does your sites have over a 100 pages or is it over a 100 posts? do you place each post on a seperate page? Thanks for sharing BTW
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  • Profile picture of the author warriortrades
    Thanks for the information. I run a website where I offer a paid service to traders and investors. This info will come in handy as I try to generate traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Here is a sample of a article I had written by the content authority about my fav show the a-team. This was from my netflix affiliate days.



    The Rise And Fall Of The A-Team

    The A-team TV show, which made its debut on January 30th, 1983, was an immediate hit. It ran right after Super Bowl XVII, and because of this was viewed by more than 25% of the TV watching audience. The show was written by Frank Lupo, produced by Stephen Cannel and ran for five seasons on the NBC television network.

    The show was based around a four-man team of ex-Vietnam Veterans, who were on the run from the military for a crime they did not commit.The cast consisted primarily of George Peppard as John Smith, Mr. T as B.A. Baracus, Dirk Benedict as Templeton Peck and Dwight Schultz as Howling Mad Murdock. It quickly became evident that the program was in for a lucrative run.

    Aside from the team's constant objective of clearing their names, the show was without a long-term plot and was criticized by some as being overly violent and sexist. Neither of these arguments was without validity either, since a typical episode contained nearly fifty acts of violence and had only two permanent female roles. In fact, Melinda Culea”one of the show's two regular actresses”was fired in the second season after disagreements arose between her and the show's writers.

    The criticism, legitimate or not, did little if any damage to the program's fan base, and popular catch phrases from the show ended up on a wide variety of merchandise. Among these zingers, was George Peppard's, I love it when a plan comes together, which occurred in every episode and Mr. T's I aint gettin' on no plane! Not to mention Hannibal's on the jazz, another unforgettable B.A. Baracus one-liner.

    The program enjoyed 97 episodes and featured an array of notable guest stars. Among these were Boy George, Isaac Hayes, Rick James, Hulk Hogan and even legendary football quarterback Joe Nameth. Despite the show's initial success, people began tuning out in the fourth season. Efforts to revamp the series were made in the fifth season when the A-team were finally apprehended by the military police and forced into indenture. But this was to no avail, and for all intents and purposes, The A-team was finished, airing its last episode on March 8th, 1987.

    Nonetheless, The A-team had a long and successful run, lasting five years, five seasons and 97 episodes. One could only describe the A-team as iconic. the A-team TV show was adored by many, chastised by some and has earned its place in history as a pop-culture phenomenon.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cade21
      Thank you for this exceptional post. Very unselfish. I enjoy your desire to help and your unassuming manner. I'm sorry you had to put up with some asinine criticism.

      Good luck the rest of the way. I hope you make a million dollars.
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  • Profile picture of the author glock67
    that is a great strategy you have come up with
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Cade21 View Post

      Thank you for this exceptional post. Very unselfish. I enjoy your desire to help and your unassuming manner. I'm sorry you had to put up with some asinine criticism.

      Good luck the rest of the way. I hope you make a million dollars.
      Thank you

      Originally Posted by glock67 View Post

      that is a great strategy you have come up with
      Thanx I'm sure there are plenty of others doing it also
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  • Profile picture of the author lexionar
    I heard curating content with some long tail title can give more robust ranking even without any backlinking, anybody have any experience with this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Instantfruit
    Fantastic thread and great inspiration.

    I am still messing about with micro niche sites, but there is plenty here that i feel i could adopt to my biz model.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Instantfruit View Post

      Fantastic thread and great inspiration.

      I am still messing about with micro niche sites, but there is plenty here that i feel i could adopt to my biz model.

      Thanks
      I'm actually about to hop on the micro niche bandwagon myself, I was in the middle of searching for easy keywords when micro niche finder stop working.
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  • Profile picture of the author lazydaisy
    Hi Nest28, Thank you for sharing that information with us, It's an inspiration to know that with a little hard work someone could still make some money to pay bills or have a little extra income monthly.

    How long does it normally take you to rank, lets say with the 20 articles at the beginning and see some income?

    Thanks again
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  • Profile picture of the author Roma
    I love the travel theme. Well done to you!
    Thanks for sharing - people doing well is always great motivation.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Roma View Post

      I love the travel theme. Well done to you!
      Thanks for sharing - people doing well is always great motivation.
      That travel theme is not mine that template come like that ,feel free to browse premium blogger templates I like to keep all my templates blue and white.

      here is good theme for medical ,of course I will change the pics in the slider and navigation but its perfect for that niche, make the adsense the same color blue as the template
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    What content quality do you purchase from The Content Authority? Basic, great, excellent or expert?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by kiwiviktor81 View Post

      So is $1 per page per month a pretty acurrate metric for you? Thanks for this info, I have a health site doing that and I figure it could be an earner if I went from its current 30 pages to 100+.
      I believe this can be done with less content, I'm currently making a site with no intentional keywords meaning all articles will be questions and answers type . but I plan on making this site only fifty pages

      Originally Posted by lazydaisy View Post

      Hi Nest28, Thank you for sharing that information with us, It's an inspiration to know that with a little hard work someone could still make some money to pay bills or have a little extra income monthly.

      How long does it normally take you to rank, lets say with the 20 articles at the beginning and see some income?

      Thanks again
      anywhere from 3 weeks to 6 weeks, I have a site rite now that is 2 months old with 20 pages that just wont stop bouncing around for some reason, never had that happen I'm going to add 40 pages and see what happens

      Originally Posted by Roma View Post

      I love the travel theme. Well done to you!
      Thanks for sharing - people doing well is always great motivation.
      Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

      What content quality do you purchase from The Content Authority? Basic, great, excellent or expert?
      always basic my friend the cheaper the better lol, here are couple good writers that I trust

      Writer ID:
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  • Profile picture of the author Eldon
    This is an awesome thread. Thank you for posting it. As a complete Newbie and still trying to figure out what the heck a lot of this means, I need to go back through and study more closely. But I think I do see some potential here for a noob. I have yet to see any money on IM even though I know there is huge potential - just need to figure it out. Once again, thank you..
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by afme View Post

      This is an awesome thread. Thank you for posting it. As a complete Newbie and still trying to figure out what the heck a lot of this means, I need to go back through and study more closely. But I think I do see some potential here for a noob. I have yet to see any money on IM even though I know there is huge potential - just need to figure it out. Once again, thank you..
      if you need help I have free time on my hands
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    Great job explaining your successful method. I have several Adsense sites & make a residual $300-400 per month with them. They are all micro niche sites inspired by XFactor. When I find the time & money, I definitely want to give your method a shot. I even have a stagnant site that would work well with this method. A very high paying niche - $7+ CPC.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

      Great job explaining your successful method. I have several Adsense sites & make a residual $300-400 per month with them. They are all micro niche sites inspired by XFactor. When I find the time & money, I definitely want to give your method a shot. I even have a stagnant site that would work well with this method. A very high paying niche - $7+ CPC.
      The fact that you even get paid on a monthly basis from adsense means you are doing well. Please make some sacrifices and reinvest your profits back into the sites. I only had 310 a month from welfare to split between me and my son and I bought a domain name here and there and also content whenever I could and little by little my income increased to over 2, 000 a month.
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      • Profile picture of the author dakar
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        The fact that you even get paid on a monthly basis from adsense means you are doing well. Please make some sacrifices and reinvest your profits back into the sites. I only had 310 a month from welfare to split between me and my son and I bought a domain name here and there and also content whenever I could and little by little my income increased to over 2, 000 a month.
        First off, thanks for giving all of this information for free. I do believe your system works, as I also have an adsense site that makes quite a bit of money.
        The only problem I've encountered is that my adsense earnings fluctuate too much. On good months, I can make $7000. On another month it goes down to $1000. This is all from 1 site in 1 niche. But I'm sure its because the advertisement for these keywords goes up and down on adwords.

        My question for you :

        Since my monthly expenses are much more than $2000 a month, is your only focus now to come up with more and more sites? Is your goal to make more than $2000 a month? What's stopping you from making more than that? Do you see that as a possibility with this method?

        Thanks again
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by thatkeywordguy View Post

          Seems like a pretty classic straight-forward adsense-based approach - with an emphasis on Long Tails.

          Love it.

          Did you have any trouble with Panda though?
          I didn't eve know what panda was until people on warrior forum kept talking about it. The unnatural backlnks notice, people get banned from adsense, the big bmr thing was news to me. I never notice any of my sites take a hit from any update so far.

          Originally Posted by dakar View Post

          First off, thanks for giving all of this information for free. I do believe your system works, as I also have an adsense site that makes quite a bit of money.
          The only problem I've encountered is that my adsense earnings fluctuate too much. On good months, I can make $7000. On another month it goes down to $1000. This is all from 1 site in 1 niche. But I'm sure its because the advertisement for these keywords goes up and down on adwords.

          My question for you :

          Since my monthly expenses are much more than $2000 a month, is your only focus now to come up with more and more sites? Is your goal to make more than $2000 a month? What's stopping you from making more than that? Do you see that as a possibility with this method?

          Thanks again
          The only thing stopping me from making more money is me, I currently have 15 sites that all together make around 2,100 a month. I never wanted to have that many sites. If I make more sites I'm pretty sure I could double my income. The I went from 0 to 2000 a month thread has caught my eye and while I really don't like building small sites and doing more backlinking I will give that method a try.
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          • Profile picture of the author dakar
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            I didn't eve know what panda was until people on warrior forum kept talking about it. The unnatural backlnks notice, people get banned from adsense, the big bmr thing was news to me. I never notice any of my sites take a hit from any update so far.



            The only thing stopping me from making more money is me, I currently have 15 sites that all together make around 2,100 a month. I never wanted to have that many sites. If I make more sites I'm pretty sure I could double my income. The I went from 0 to 2000 a month thread has caught my eye and while I really don't like building small sites and doing more backlinking I will give that method a try.

            Good explanation. I really like your method, and yours is the one that I think sparks my interest to spend serious time developing. The other thread that you mentioned is is very useful as well.
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            • Profile picture of the author strategia
              Originally Posted by dakar View Post

              Good explanation. I really like your method, and yours is the one that I think sparks my interest to spend serious time developing. The other thread that you mentioned is is very useful as well.
              Man, this is such a great thread and the kind of thing that lifts the heart. So different from all the hands in your pocket stuff that goes on around this forum. More power to the open and free exchange!

              I can't see what "the other thread" is... can you post it again please?
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              • Profile picture of the author nest28
                Originally Posted by Adevictus View Post

                So you plan on creating another site in the similar format?
                Yes, everything is done the same, I just wont be backlinking using spammy links. I' also paying closer attention to on site seo.

                Originally Posted by imlogic View Post

                anyone using adsense is crazy... especially on more than one site. You essentially give away your entire network and seo strategy.
                Tell that to all the guys out there making thousands of dollars from adsense. I also plan on using cpa offers as well.

                Originally Posted by aquarious44 View Post

                Varied and quality links are always the best way to go to minimize risk of penalty.
                Mel
                Yes, and I plan on getting just a few links from various sources, but not to many.
                Originally Posted by strategia View Post

                Man, this is such a great thread and the kind of thing that lifts the heart. So different from all the hands in your pocket stuff that goes on around this forum. More power to the open and free exchange!

                I can't see what "the other thread" is... can you post it again please?
                I guess he meant this thread.

                http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-part-2-a.html
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        • Profile picture of the author Tigrs84
          Originally Posted by dakar View Post

          First off, thanks for giving all of this information for free.
          I'm sure somebody is in the process of turning this into an eBook as we speak. There will probably be a WSO for it on Monday.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by Tigrs84 View Post

            I'm sure somebody is in the process of turning this into an eBook as we speak. There will probably be a WSO for it on Monday.
            lol I wouldn't be surprised
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    What kinds of backlinking do you do to your main page?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

      What kinds of backlinking do you do to your main page?
      The usual suspects fiverr gigs ,article marking,forum profiles. It doesn't take much for these long tail articles to do well, if you put them in question form.

      I kept seeing "what high school classes to take if I want to become a nurse" so I made that the title of the post and since no one else had a article on the subject I easily became number 1 with no backlinks literally 2 mins after I posted it


      Edit; nurse is not my keyword it is just a example
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  • Profile picture of the author thatkeywordguy
    Seems like a pretty classic straight-forward adsense-based approach - with an emphasis on Long Tails.

    Love it.

    Did you have any trouble with Panda though?
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    Thanks for your kind share
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Originally Posted by dakar View Post

    Good explanation. I really like your method, and yours is the one that I think sparks my interest to spend serious time developing. The other thread that you mentioned is is very useful as well.
    Actually I think using the method in the " i went from 0 to 2000 a month" should be phase 1, than phase 2 could be the long tail method.

    It is important to rank the site first, and start getting some kind of traffic after this is accomplished you can look at your google analytics so see how people found your site, than make articles out of that info.

    Remember not to make sites around products that will be outdated in a couple months or terms that you can't see potential for growth.


    Originally Posted by almystro View Post

    Thank you
    More to double your posts
    You welcome
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  • Profile picture of the author sadas
    Hi show an example of your site
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by sadas View Post

      Hi show an example of your site
      I would love to but not sure thats a great idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author UW
    One quick question. Do you put adsense ads in right away or wait until your site starts to get visitors? thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by UW View Post

      One quick question. Do you put adsense ads in right away or wait until your site starts to get visitors? thanks
      I wait until I start to see some sort of traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author UW
    ok thanks. How many visitors a day would make a site ready for adsense?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by UW View Post

      ok thanks. How many visitors a day would make a site ready for adsense?
      today a couple of my sites had less than 30 visitors but those sites made 1.94 and another I check made 3.45. All of my sites only receive 80 to 120 people a day but that's enough for them to make 100.00 or more a month.

      The lowest amount of visitors to make some kind of money in a niche that pays well should be around 20, if only one visitor clicks that might net you a couple dollars vs a low paying niche where you may only see a few cents.

      Edit: the 80 -120 ratio is only on week days, on the weekends my visitor ratio is more between 20 to 60 but I still do well.
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    ok i understand, thanks for the helpful info!
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    I am curious you have 15 sites, each site is 100 pages? and you outsource all the writing ? So each page is a post? or you make the posts into pages? How long did it take to make the 15 sites, Thank you
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by UW View Post

      ok i understand, thanks for the helpful info!
      anytime

      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      I am curious you have 15 sites, each site is 100 pages? and you outsource all the writing ? So each page is a post? or you make the posts into pages? How long did it take to make the 15 sites, Thank you
      Yes each page is a post on blogger. Outsourced at the content authority. If you look at my writing on here I think it's safe to say I'm no writer lol. The first site is over a year old I had considered it a failure because I wanted to make a full time income from that one site. But than it hit me that hey this site makes money so in fact it is a success I than look for ways to duplicate my success that I had with my first site and that is how I came up with this long tail idea.

      Each site takes about 3 months to complete but they start to make money around the 5 week mark.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Hi Thanks for that
    If you say 400 per site is the cost, how much of that is the article writing? Thanks again, Congrats, I can write my own articles but not sure if I will
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      Hi Thanks for that
      If you say 400 per site is the cost, how much of that is the article writing? Thanks again, Congrats, I can write my own articles but not sure if I will
      You welcome, all of it goes to outsourcing articles. If I could write well this process would be much easier for me. Oh and 10 dollars for the domain name.
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      • Profile picture of the author outwest
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        You welcome, all of it goes to outsourcing articles. If I could write well this process would be much easier for me. Oh and 10 dollars for the domain name.
        hmm ok i thought you used blogger.com or blogspot
        you buy your own domain and host it with them?
        confusing
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by outwest View Post

          hmm ok i thought you used blogger.com or blogspot
          you buy your own domain and host it with them?
          confusing
          i use custom domain on blogger
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          • Profile picture of the author outwest
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            i use custom domain on blogger
            in that case who is the host? They host it? on their nameservers?

            what does the domain url look like? blogger is not in the url?
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by outwest View Post

              in that case who is the host? They host it? on their nameservers?

              what does the domain url look like? blogger is not in the url?
              i guess blogger host it free and a custom domain name would look like www.mysite.com
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              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                i guess blogger host it free and a custom domain name would look like www.mysite.com
                If blogger would quit, can you easily move the site with all the inner url's or will it be a lot of reconstructing in a manual way?
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                • Profile picture of the author nest28
                  Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                  If blogger would quit, can you easily move the site with all the inner url's or will it be a lot of reconstructing in a manual way?
                  i looked into it a while back but i forget
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      • Profile picture of the author comp123
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        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        You welcome, all of it goes to outsourcing articles. If I could write well this process would be much easier for me. Oh and 10 dollars for the domain name.
        I dont understand....you say your doing this with blogger so why would you need a domain? :confused:

        I had no idea you could use a custom domain on blogger. Where do i find information about this?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by vare View Post

          Hi nest,

          really a great share.

          I have a question about your site structure.

          In this way how do you create your categories, and also do you build internal links between your articles, if you build, how many per post/article you recommend, and also any resource,image if you could recommend for this?

          Tnx
          I create the categories based on the niche, sometimes I will have tabs a and the tabs will have drop down boxes for sub categories.

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          Originally Posted by winrar View Post

          Hi nest,
          Have you considered to use yourdomain.blogger.com, rather than buying custom domains to save some money?
          I know maybe sub-domains are more difficult for ranking than top domains, I never tried so curious about the difference.
          I pay 390 for articles and only 10 for domain so I wouldn't be saving much.

          Originally Posted by lazydaisy View Post

          Hi Nest, When you build your site, when do you do the backlinks to the page or main domain, and what methods of backlinks do you use for each site?

          Thanks
          I wouldn't recommend my method of backlinking I do everything most imer's say never to do and have seen good results , such as sending a blast of profile links from fiverr gig to one of my main sites. The ranking for that site increased and so did the income.

          Originally Posted by Azmath View Post

          That's great !!! i also blog but never thought this kind of idea, that's really cool .
          thanx

          Originally Posted by comp123 View Post

          I dont understand....you say your doing this with blogger so why would you need a domain? :confused:

          I had no idea you could use a custom domain on blogger. Where do i find information about this?
          I don't need a custom domain name but it makes the site look more official , plus I like having my own domain name free of blogger at the end.

          info here http://support.google.com/blogger/bi...381&page=ts.cs
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  • Profile picture of the author nmkts
    I use a similar strategy and it works very well.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    In that case, if they host the domain, I dont understand the reason, to do it on blogger

    I thought you were doing a kw.blogger.com site
    if you are doinga mydomain.com site
    why not just host it yourself ? I guess then you would have to use wordpress
    but I thought you were using blogger to get the benefit of the blogger name in the domain and the authority that comes with that

    I cant see any SERP benefit by using this custom domain and having blogger host it
    I guess the only benefit is ease of making the site on blogger? and not using wordpress?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      In that case, if they host the domain, I dont understand the reason, to do it on blogger

      I thought you were doing a kw.blogger.com site
      if you are doinga mydomain.com site
      why not just host it yourself ? I guess then you would have to use wordpress
      but I thought you were using blogger to get the benefit of the blogger name in the domain and the authority that comes with that

      I cant see any SERP benefit by using this custom domain and having blogger host it
      I guess the only benefit is ease of making the site on blogger? and not using wordpress?
      I'm just use to blogger , this method can be done on any blogging plate form
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  • Profile picture of the author vare
    Hi nest,

    really a great share.

    I have a question about your site structure.

    In this way how do you create your categories, and also do you build internal links between your articles, if you build, how many per post/article you recommend, and also any resource,image if you could recommend for this?

    Tnx
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  • Profile picture of the author winrar
    Hi nest,
    Have you considered to use yourdomain.blogger.com, rather than buying custom domains to save some money?
    I know maybe sub-domains are more difficult for ranking than top domains, I never tried so curious about the difference.
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  • Profile picture of the author lazydaisy
    Hi Nest, When you build your site, when do you do the backlinks to the page or main domain, and what methods of backlinks do you use for each site?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Azmath
    That's great !!! i also blog but never thought this kind of idea, that's really cool .
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    I would also like to know what you guys think of this idea http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ame-niche.html no one replied to this thread
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  • Profile picture of the author esmein
    I've found something intertesting while building a site similar to yours (different niche, monetized with Amazon instead of Adsense, has close to 100 unique, hand written articles that genuinely try and answer questions).

    There are long-tail expressions closely related to the theme of my site that I rank for multiple times on the front page. And I don't mean double listing, I mean the top 4 slots.

    Do you think it's a 'good problem' to have, or am focused on too small sub-sets of this niche and thus limit myself in how much traffic I can get on the long run?
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by esmein View Post

      I've found something intertesting while building a site similar to yours (different niche, monetized with Amazon instead of Adsense, has close to 100 unique, hand written articles that genuinely try and answer questions).

      There are long-tail expressions closely related to the theme of my site that I rank for multiple times on the front page. And I don't mean double listing, I mean the top 4 slots.

      Do you think it's a 'good problem' to have, or am focused on too small sub-sets of this niche and thus limit myself in how much traffic I can get on the long run?
      Are you sure your not seeing personalized SERP results based on your browser history? If you don't clear your browser history/cache Google will show totally different false SERPs.

      Multiple SERP listings is way more powerful than a single SERP listings. I have several forum threads encouraging people to get more traffic from single keywords, I'm sure most don't listen.

      Anyways, nice work so long as those SERP results aren't personalized.
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      • Profile picture of the author esmein
        I'm fairly sure they aren't personalized. I'm logged out and looking at google.com. The top 4 are 3 different articles from my site + 1 tag page.

        When I'm in an incognito window and logged out, I have 2nd 3rd and 4th spots. Are there other steps I should take to make sure I'm not seeing a personalized SERP?
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by esmein View Post

          I'm fairly sure they aren't personalized. I'm logged out and looking at google.com. The top 4 are 3 different articles from my site + 1 tag page.

          When I'm in an incognito window and logged out, I have 2nd 3rd and 4th spots. Are there other steps I should take to make sure I'm not seeing a personalized SERP?
          I use CCleaner (free) to clear out the browser, then do the search with Chrome Incognito.
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          • Profile picture of the author Milker
            OK - lets break this down a bit. (No offense Nest ... I was curious.)

            I make a full time adsense income without ranking keywords
            His site ranks on page 1 of Google for at least 9 high competition, high traffic terms ... several over 70K searches per month. He is within striking range of a number of really high volume keywords - page 3 for several over 200K. He is also ranking on page 2 of Google for a lot! of high volume keywords ... many over 100K searches. He does have tones of lower volume keywords that he ranks well for, but he is getting a fair amount of traffic from those high ranking keywords too. [EDIT - the search volume numbers here are all wrong - calculation mistake.]

            I don't even try to rank these sites for any keyword ...
            ... I don't go after keywords with nice amount of local searches, instead I rely on long tail traffic alone.
            The backlink anchor text shows that he is or was trying to rank for about 15 main keywords. The rest of the anchor text is quite varied with a lot of straight URL text. The search volume for some of his more heavily anchored keyword texts is 22K, 33K, another 33K, etc. So he is going to rank for some high volume keywords going by his anchor text.[EDIT - again, the search volume numbers are incorrect]

            ... with this method I do very little backlinking.
            I easily found over 1K backlinks ... the vast majority of them from mid last year and on. Most of the backlinks are the basic forum spam and comment spam and do look like Fiver Gigs. Also some sort of blog network thrown in for good measure. Brief warning for Nest here - that network has been deindexed and many (most) of your higher PR backlinks are gone. The sites are still there, but the owners have either moved or removed the content. Either way, those backlinks are gone.

            I only backlink to the home page
            Mostly true. I did find a few links to internal pages, but very few.

            yes exactly, and if you get a manual review I don't think you will have anything to worry about with a 100 page site that does nothing but deliver information that your visitors are searching for.
            Famous last words. An MFA site is just that - in fact 100 pages of 400 word articles is probably exactly the definition of MFA to Google. Remember, quality of content is very low on the list of what Google does when judging your site. That only comes after all the other automated checks are done. This sites footprint coupled with the backlink structure .... well, I think that one might worry at least a little bit.

            I didn't eve know what panda was until people on warrior forum kept talking about it. The unnatural backlnks notice, people get banned from adsense, the big bmr thing was news to me. I never notice any of my sites take a hit from any update so far.
            Looking at the site and the backlinks I wondered how this was possible. Then I discovered that many of his 'spamming' style of backlinks were created starting late last year and into about Feb of this year ... after the initial Panda outbreak. Before that he was doing primarily Article marketing which I'll bet was slow going. The site is clearly MFA and the backlinks are completely unnatural in every way possible. This is a recipe for a Panda slap ... soooooo many sites that looked exactly like this, both in their content and their backlinks have been either deindexed or worse yet, the Adsense account killed.

            Assessment of this method:

            This is the classic IM'er way of building a MFA site. It still works and probably always will. However, it is a high risk/high reward thing. If you can manage to stay under the radar you might do very well for a long time. If however, one of the Adsense advertisers puts in a complaint about your site - at the first sniff of a Google review - this site is gone. It's happened 1000's of times in the past year - MFA's are target number one for Google these days. If they find you, they will snuff you out!

            For anyone thinking of doing what Nest has done, here is what one might suggest:

            His basic method of finding a high paying niche and then building the initial site with longtail posts is good. Then adding content based on what people are searching for is also very good ... do that. Vary the length of the posts more. A whole site of 400 word posts is a footprint a mile wide. Many of the posts are virtually duplicates ... better to write one long post and incorporate the various longtail keywords into the longer post. That post then becomes more helpful to the reader and may generate more natural linking. Vary the type of posts. Do interviews. Comment on news in your niche. Tour a facility. Goto a school and have a meeting with a counselor. Post job requirements from headhunters. ... do anything to add value to the site. The basic SEO'd articles can still be there, but mix them up with other, more valuable types of content ... content that requires a bit of work.

            Finally - don't build links! Let them come naturally. If you are writing posts for the longtail traffic, you don't need backlinks. Here is what Nest wrote:

            I kept seeing "what high school classes to take if I want to become a nurse" so I made that the title of the post and since no one else had a article on the subject I easily became number 1 with no backlinks literally 2 mins after I posted it
            Use that method of gaining traffic and you don't need backlinks. Incorporate 8 or 10 of those types of longtail keywords into one long epic post and you'll get the traffic.

            Guys - Google is on the warpath - any whiff of link building or thin/dup content and they will kill your site. Don't give them a reason. This method works and can be very successful, but it is also risky. You HAVE to stay under the radar with this kind of site ... and sometimes that is hard to do. If you are in this for the long term, you really need to think hard about backlinks and whether you should build them or not.

            IMHO ... and opinions are like ..., everybody has one. lol.
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            • Profile picture of the author razorhound
              Originally Posted by Milker View Post

              OK - lets break this down a bit. (No offense Nest ... I was curious.)



              His site ranks on page 1 of Google for at least 9 high competition, high traffic terms ... several over 70K searches per month. He is within striking range of a number of really high volume keywords - page 3 for several over 200K. He is also ranking on page 2 of Google for a lot! of high volume keywords ... many over 100K searches. He does have tones of lower volume keywords that he ranks well for, but he is getting a fair amount of traffic from those high ranking keywords too.




              The backlink anchor text shows that he is or was trying to rank for about 15 main keywords. The rest of the anchor text is quite varied with a lot of straight URL text. The search volume for some of his more heavily anchored keyword texts is 22K, 33K, another 33K, etc. So he is going to rank for some high volume keywords going by his anchor text.



              I easily found over 1K backlinks ... the vast majority of them from mid last year and on. Most of the backlinks are the basic forum spam and comment spam and do look like Fiver Gigs. Also some sort of blog network thrown in for good measure. Brief warning for Nest here - that network has been deindexed and many (most) of your higher PR backlinks are gone. The sites are still there, but the owners have either moved or removed the content. Either way, those backlinks are gone.



              Mostly true. I did find a few links to internal pages, but very few.
              I have no idea which site are you talking about, did he even share his site with you?
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              • Profile picture of the author dakar
                Originally Posted by razorhound View Post

                I have no idea which site are you talking about, did he even share his site with you?
                you're right. I have no idea what site he is referring to.
                nest28 has never told us what site he's created.
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  • Profile picture of the author sprucehill
    Thank you for posting your experience, it was very helpful and informative. I have been thinking about starting with Adsense and you have given me some motivation. I also did not know you could register a domain with Blogger.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    As I pointed out the op saying this was all done on blogger is a bit misleading
    I think the fact he hosted his domain on blogger had NOTHING to do with the success of this method. Its all his kw choice, longtail mixing, number of pages on domain etc etc

    since he purchased his own domain and basically let blogger host it for him, and the domain reads like. www.hisdomain.com

    there is NO benefit to doing this on blogger
    hosting as opposed to locating www.hisdomain.com on his own host, and slapping wordpress on it

    Do not be confused with the "I did this with blogger": underlying theme in this thread

    i dont think blogger had anything to do with this success of this method
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      As I pointed out the op saying this was all done on blogger is a bit misleading
      I think the fact he hosted his domain on blogger had NOTHING to do with the success of this method. Its all his kw choice, longtail mixing, number of pages on domain etc etc

      since he purchased his own domain and basically let blogger host it for him, and the domain reads like. www.hisdomain.com

      there is NO benefit to doing this on blogger
      hosting as opposed to locating www.hisdomain.com on his own host, and slapping wordpress on it

      Do not be confused with the "I did this with blogger": underlying theme in this thread

      i dont think blogger had anything to do with this success of this method
      I've said many times that my sites being on blogger has no extra benefits. Blogspot is simply the first blogging platform I ever tried and I never stop using it. This method will work no matter if it's on blogger or wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author tycoon828
    where is the OP? No reply to the post #140? Then what that guy said must be true?
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  • Profile picture of the author Instantfruit
    @Nest - how many sites do you work on at any one time?

    Also, @Milker - interesting post, can you tell me what website you where looking at, as I dont think Nest has posted any domains he owns.

    Additionally, and with all due respect, you first post on this forum is this one?!?! That could be seen as odd.

    Either way, an interesting post that does not detract from what Nest is saying, in fact adds some caution to the approach to Google which is a good thing, but a little odd seeing as its (a) your first post, (b) does not share the domain

    Would be good to clear this up, as this is an interesting thread full of goodies!
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    • Profile picture of the author Milker
      Nest did not reveal his site - but it's not hard to figure out.

      I did make one mistake on my calculations ... my search volumes are all wrong - forgot to turn 'Global' to 'Exact' when checking the Adwords tool. Mia Culpa. That changes the numbers for his top 10 ranked search terms making them really a lot less in terms of competition.

      Does not change my thoughts about the site or how Google might view it though. I urge any beginners to be very careful with this type of site ... especially the backlinking. Nest himself said it best:

      I wouldn't recommend my method of backlinking I do everything most imer's say never to do and have seen good results , such as sending a blast of profile links from fiverr gig to one of my main sites. The ranking for that site increased and so did the income.
      I am just trying to bring another point of view to his information.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by Milker View Post

        OK - lets break this down a bit. (No offense Nest ... I was curious.)



        His site ranks on page 1 of Google for at least 9 high competition, high traffic terms ... several over 70K searches per month. He is within striking range of a number of really high volume keywords - page 3 for several over 200K. He is also ranking on page 2 of Google for a lot! of high volume keywords ... many over 100K searches. He does have tones of lower volume keywords that he ranks well for, but he is getting a fair amount of traffic from those high ranking keywords too. [EDIT - the search volume numbers here are all wrong - calculation mistake.]




        The backlink anchor text shows that he is or was trying to rank for about 15 main keywords. The rest of the anchor text is quite varied with a lot of straight URL text. The search volume for some of his more heavily anchored keyword texts is 22K, 33K, another 33K, etc. So he is going to rank for some high volume keywords going by his anchor text.[EDIT - again, the search volume numbers are incorrect]



        I easily found over 1K backlinks ... the vast majority of them from mid last year and on. Most of the backlinks are the basic forum spam and comment spam and do look like Fiver Gigs. Also some sort of blog network thrown in for good measure. Brief warning for Nest here - that network has been deindexed and many (most) of your higher PR backlinks are gone. The sites are still there, but the owners have either moved or removed the content. Either way, those backlinks are gone.



        Mostly true. I did find a few links to internal pages, but very few.



        Famous last words. An MFA site is just that - in fact 100 pages of 400 word articles is probably exactly the definition of MFA to Google. Remember, quality of content is very low on the list of what Google does when judging your site. That only comes after all the other automated checks are done. This sites footprint coupled with the backlink structure .... well, I think that one might worry at least a little bit.



        Looking at the site and the backlinks I wondered how this was possible. Then I discovered that many of his 'spamming' style of backlinks were created starting late last year and into about Feb of this year ... after the initial Panda outbreak. Before that he was doing primarily Article marketing which I'll bet was slow going. The site is clearly MFA and the backlinks are completely unnatural in every way possible. This is a recipe for a Panda slap ... soooooo many sites that looked exactly like this, both in their content and their backlinks have been either deindexed or worse yet, the Adsense account killed.

        Assessment of this method:

        This is the classic IM'er way of building a MFA site. It still works and probably always will. However, it is a high risk/high reward thing. If you can manage to stay under the radar you might do very well for a long time. If however, one of the Adsense advertisers puts in a complaint about your site - at the first sniff of a Google review - this site is gone. It's happened 1000's of times in the past year - MFA's are target number one for Google these days. If they find you, they will snuff you out!

        For anyone thinking of doing what Nest has done, here is what one might suggest:

        His basic method of finding a high paying niche and then building the initial site with longtail posts is good. Then adding content based on what people are searching for is also very good ... do that. Vary the length of the posts more. A whole site of 400 word posts is a footprint a mile wide. Many of the posts are virtually duplicates ... better to write one long post and incorporate the various longtail keywords into the longer post. That post then becomes more helpful to the reader and may generate more natural linking. Vary the type of posts. Do interviews. Comment on news in your niche. Tour a facility. Goto a school and have a meeting with a counselor. Post job requirements from headhunters. ... do anything to add value to the site. The basic SEO'd articles can still be there, but mix them up with other, more valuable types of content ... content that requires a bit of work.

        Finally - don't build links! Let them come naturally. If you are writing posts for the longtail traffic, you don't need backlinks. Here is what Nest wrote:



        Use that method of gaining traffic and you don't need backlinks. Incorporate 8 or 10 of those types of longtail keywords into one long epic post and you'll get the traffic.

        Guys - Google is on the warpath - any whiff of link building or thin/dup content and they will kill your site. Don't give them a reason. This method works and can be very successful, but it is also risky. You HAVE to stay under the radar with this kind of site ... and sometimes that is hard to do. If you are in this for the long term, you really need to think hard about backlinks and whether you should build them or not.

        IMHO ... and opinions are like ..., everybody has one. lol.
        I have no idea what you are talking about lol. How can these be mfa type sites when all I do is answer questions provided by my visitors? I provide value to the internet by doing so. The reason I make post 400 words is because that's all it takes to answer a question like "what classes should I take in high school if I want to become a nurse".

        Remember the title of the post is what ranks the article not a snippet from the middle or end, that is why I don't make long 800 word articles, I rank using post title and focus on answering that one question same as yahoo answers, they rank just by having a question for a title and they don't even provide a whole article as the solution just a answer which is normally a short paragraph. I see no danger in making a site that provides information, and lots of it.

        Also I don't have articles that are closely related such has "how to become a nurse" "how to become a register nurse" or "nurse salary" "nurse salary 2012" I see no point in doing so.

        And how come all of your search or competition for this so called site is constantly wrong?

        Originally Posted by razorhound View Post

        I have no idea which site are you talking about, did he even share his site with you?
        I don't know what this guy is talking about because I have not shared any of my sites.
        Originally Posted by dakar View Post

        you're right. I have no idea what site he is referring to.
        nest28 has never told us what site he's created.
        Originally Posted by tycoon828 View Post

        where is the OP? No reply to the post #140? Then what that guy said must be true?
        Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear, heard that on justice league cartoon lol wise words tho.

        Originally Posted by Instantfruit View Post

        @Nest - how many sites do you work on at any one time?

        Also, @Milker - interesting post, can you tell me what website you where looking at, as I dont think Nest has posted any domains he owns.

        Additionally, and with all due respect, you first post on this forum is this one?!?! That could be seen as odd.

        Either way, an interesting post that does not detract from what Nest is saying, in fact adds some caution to the approach to Google which is a good thing, but a little odd seeing as its (a) your first post, (b) does not share the domain

        Would be good to clear this up, as this is an interesting thread full of goodies!
        I work on one site at a time. I agree it is strange this is his first post, seo experts like yukon has seen this thread among others and no one said these sites should be looked at as mfa type sites or that you should use caution, he even says not to build backlinks.

        Originally Posted by Milker View Post

        Nest did not reveal his site - but it's not hard to figure out.

        I did make one mistake on my calculations ... my search volumes are all wrong - forgot to turn 'Global' to 'Exact' when checking the Adwords tool. Mia Culpa. That changes the numbers for his top 10 ranked search terms making them really a lot less in terms of competition.

        Does not change my thoughts about the site or how Google might view it though. I urge any beginners to be very careful with this type of site ... especially the backlinking. Nest himself said it best:



        I am just trying to bring another point of view to his information.
        I said I wouldn't recommend blasting a site with spam, but build a small amount of quality links a little at a time is highly recommended.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    I will put my money will my mouth is by revealing one of my sites. Please understand that this particular site is totally different than my other 15 sites. It is only 2 months old and I had planned on building it in reverse by going after exact match keywords and than long tail keywords , something I normally don't do. I haven't put adsense on this site because it hasn't gotten any visitors and has been bouncing around for some time now. It also occurred to me that I shouldn't have made this site because it doesn't get enough local exact searches to provide a income off of long tail phrases alone.

    All of my other sites are centered around keywords that get 20,000 plus local searches a month, which means plenty of questions for me to answer vs 2400 for my main keyword on this site and a 1000 for my secondary keyword, you will notice plenty of other keywords like neonatal nurse which I had no intentions on ranking for just made the article because it is related to my main keyword.

    I'm sure you guys may have questions and some may judge my site and have negative things to say and that's alright, but remember this I was willing share my methods of a successful adsense method with you and on top of that done something that I can't remember ever seeing and that is revealing a site I own.

    enjoy the psychiatric nurse practitioner

    Also I'm not done with this site's appearance or on site seo, have nice day


    Edit: here is a example of my ad placement adsense block 2 Also please understand that for this example you will see 2 ads side by side example block 1 which is the adsense on homepage will not show on my actual sites I have it set up so that block one only shows on the homepage so that when you click on a article block one disappears and only in content block 2 will be seen.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rafay Zafar
    this milker guy is a strange one. He has only 2 posts and has a Join Date of Apr 2012. In other words the id was created to reply in this thread.

    anyway there is no doubt that this is a proven strategy and was used very successfully by ehow.com before they got slapped by Google for low quality content.
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    • Profile picture of the author dakar
      nest28:

      Do you think your site would get approved and not suspended for driving PPC traffic via adwords?
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by dakar View Post

        nest28:

        Do you think your site would get approved and not suspended for driving PPC traffic via adwords?
        I haven't used adwords in 2 years so idk, plus using adwords in medical field would be expensive.
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        • Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          I haven't used adwords in 2 years so idk, plus using adwords in medical field would be expensive.
          So after reading your posts and all the replies, I was just curious how long is it taking you to earn anything using your method of starting with very low search terms? I do like your idea of using the search terms used to find your site to create more pages with.

          As far as using medical niches like nursing, I am surprised you are really doing good, even more so, that you are using blogger as opposed to your own domain and host, I assume you are using a free blogger domain. The niche is so highlu competitive...I looked into it but did not want to wait for years to see results. So how long before you see results after getting your site up? Do you start with 5 or so articles and submit the rest on a steady basis or are you submitting all 30+ articles at once and letting them sit?
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by Fernando1954 View Post

            How do you get that ad block in your post top left with the text wrapped round it on blogger
            lol it took a lot of searching around to find out how to do that, and also how to make adsense show on the homepage and not any other page. I will see if I can find that info for you.

            Originally Posted by nichearticlewriter View Post

            If you want to use the google keyword tool you can always use the advanced options and features options. You would simply the options from the drop down menus..
            -Local monthly searches..1000 or whatever you want to start with
            -Competition: Low to Medium
            Approximate CPC: $1.00 or again whatever you want to start with

            Or you can get a paid version product. I use LongTailPro by Spencer Haws
            Originally Posted by nichearticlewriter View Post

            So after reading your posts and all the replies, I was just curious how long is it taking you to earn anything using your method of starting with very low search terms? I do like your idea of using the search terms used to find your site to create more pages with.

            As far as using medical niches like nursing, I am surprised you are really doing good, even more so, that you are using blogger as opposed to your own domain and host, I assume you are using a free blogger domain. The niche is so highlu competitive...I looked into it but did not want to wait for years to see results. So how long before you see results after getting your site up? Do you start with 5 or so articles and submit the rest on a steady basis or are you submitting all 30+ articles at once and letting them sit?
            I use micro niche finder and I double check keywords and competition using traffic travis
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            • -traffic travis..I actually cannot use this..I have a Mac and for some reason their stuff doesnt work on my computer...but you still didnt really answer all my questions above
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando1954
    How do you get that ad block in your post top left with the text wrapped round it on blogger
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  • Profile picture of the author greatar4
    Each site only gets between 80 and 125 visitors a day yet they all make 100.00 to 150.00 a month.
    Well, if you get that kind of traffic in a daily basis and as you stated in your post that The medical field pays well, normally I will see 2, 3 and 4 dollar clicks. Why you only make like 100.00 to 150.00 a month? I think because the traffic are not really targeted traffic, or you may experience a high bounce rate.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by nichearticlewriter View Post

      So after reading your posts and all the replies, I was just curious how long is it taking you to earn anything using your method of starting with very low search terms? I do like your idea of using the search terms used to find your site to create more pages with.

      As far as using medical niches like nursing, I am surprised you are really doing good, even more so, that you are using blogger as opposed to your own domain and host, I assume you are using a free blogger domain. The niche is so highlu competitive...I looked into it but did not want to wait for years to see results. So how long before you see results after getting your site up? Do you start with 5 or so articles and submit the rest on a steady basis or are you submitting all 30+ articles at once and letting them sit?
      Nursing was just a example not m real niche. Although there are different kinds of nurses and not all of them have high competition. I use custom domain names on blogger. The sites start to earn income about 4 to 6 weeks and they reach there peak by the time I have reach 100 pages.

      Originally Posted by nichearticlewriter View Post

      -traffic travis..I actually cannot use this..I have a Mac and for some reason their stuff doesnt work on my computer...but you still didnt really answer all my questions above
      Sorry sometimes I will be replying to comments and while doing so you may have left a new one that I missed.
      Originally Posted by greatar4 View Post

      Well, if you get that kind of traffic in a daily basis and as you stated in your post that The medical field pays well, normally I will see 2, 3 and 4 dollar clicks. Why you only make like 100.00 to 150.00 a month? I think because the traffic are not really targeted traffic, or you may experience a high bounce rate.
      If I were to go after the main keywords that the site is about it would take much longer to see results, plus I'm not into the whole backlinking like crazy thing. Getting to the top of google for high competition keywords is not easy especially now. It takes a lot of time and money to achieve number 1 rankings and also to maintain them.
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      • Profile picture of the author dakar
        nest28:

        im curious: how many sites/attempts did it take for success? In other words, how many times did you fail before you realized that your technique had growth potential. Or were you lucky the first time?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by dakar View Post

          nest28:

          im curious: how many sites/attempts did it take for success? In other words, how many times did you fail before you realized that your technique had growth potential. Or were you lucky the first time?
          My first site was the template for the rest, I basically looked at everything that made me money from that site and applied it to the rest. The only site that I have been having a problem with is the nurse site that I allowed everyone to see. Probably because I tried to build it in reverse instead on my normal way.


          I would recommend going after a niche that has huge exact local search, and plenty of sub categories.
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          • Profile picture of the author dakar
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            My first site was the template for the rest, I basically looked at everything that made me money from that site and applied it to the rest. The only site that I have been having a problem with is the nurse site that I allowed everyone to see. Probably because I tried to build it in reverse instead on my normal way.


            I would recommend going after a niche that has huge exact local search, and plenty of sub categories.
            Thanks. That's what I'll try to do!
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          • Profile picture of the author jjhf
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            My first site was the template for the rest, I basically looked at everything that made me money from that site and applied it to the rest. The only site that I have been having a problem with is the nurse site that I allowed everyone to see. Probably because I tried to build it in reverse instead on my normal way.


            I would recommend going after a niche that has huge exact local search, and plenty of sub categories.
            Just to clarify. You start off by finding a category like Race Car Driver. that has 100000 exact local searches (numbers completely made up).

            From there you drill down and find 20 Key word phrases 100-1000 exact local searches with low competition and have 20 pieces of content written with those key words as titles. Example: Race Car Driver Salary, How to be a race car driver, Race Car Driving Schools, Race Car Driver Degrees, Race Car Driver requirements etc...... all the way to 20 of these

            You then submit to webmaster tools, directories, and throw some fiverr links at the main page and sit back and watch for a few weeks. After those few weeks you see that people who searched for "What's the quickest way to be a race car driver?" landed on your site so you hire out to the content authority an article titles "What's the quickest way to be a race car driver?"

            You then repeat the last step until you get around 75-100 pages.

            Thanks in advance.
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by jjhf View Post

              Just to clarify. You start off by finding a category like Race Car Driver. that has 100000 exact local searches (numbers completely made up).

              From there you drill down and find 20 Key word phrases 100-1000 exact local searches with low competition and have 20 pieces of content written with those key words as titles. Example: Race Car Driver Salary, How to be a race car driver, Race Car Driving Schools, Race Car Driver Degrees, Race Car Driver requirements etc...... all the way to 20 of these

              You then submit to webmaster tools, directories, and throw some fiverr links at the main page and sit back and watch for a few weeks. After those few weeks you see that people who searched for "What's the quickest way to be a race car driver?" landed on your site so you hire out to the content authority an article titles "What's the quickest way to be a race car driver?"

              You then repeat the last step until you get around 75-100 pages.

              Thanks in advance.
              Yes although I wont be backlinking to my sites in the future. But you hit the nail on the head exactly. If your not making good money already i see it in your future.
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  • Profile picture of the author UW
    I just want to say thanks for sharing your story it has really inspired me to start a new project. thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeUK
    Interesting thread. Long tail traffic is completely natural and how most major authority sites get the bulk of their traffic (at least that's my understanding) so to build your site around that, aiming to pull in long tail traffic through multiple articles as opposed to getting mad caught up trying to rank the homepage for example for a few specific keywords makes sense - but both would be nice in an ideal world though!
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  • Profile picture of the author williamsam
    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

    Basically I build large sites using blogger custom domains. I don't use any kind of adsense ctr theme or any other commonly used templates. Here is a example of a template i might usefree blogger templates.

    I place one adsense block in the sidebar which is only shown on the homepage, the rest will be inside the content to the left. I used to make blog posts that were the exact match as the keyword I wanted to rank, for example if I wanted to rank for registered nurse, than the title of the post would be registered nurse. Now I look for niches that have potential to become large sites, so I stick to medical careers. The medical field pays well, normally I will see 2,3 and 4 dollar clicks. Each site only gets between 80 and 125 visitors a day yet they all make 100.00 to 150.00 a month.

    I only backlink the homepage using article marketing ,social bookmarks, forum profiles etc. I don't even try to rank these sites for any keyword, all my traffic come from long tail searches. I use google analytics to see how people got to my site than I use those search terms as post titles. For example , Do I have to be good at math to become a registered nurse, can I become a registered nurse with a g.e.d. , how do I become a registered nurse if I already have a degree in health science


    The only thing I do to make a site is search for a medical career, research what kind of degrees and training is required , think of a bunch of questions I can write about and that's it. Each site is 75 to 100 pages.
    Then it's party time dude go and celebrate
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  • Profile picture of the author SpiderZq
    why you using blogger custom domain any benefit of this?
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  • Profile picture of the author slix
    He already said twice, he likes the blogger and that's why he use it - it could be done with WP, Joomla or any other platform.

    Thanks for sharing this, I know a guy who has never done any SEO to his site, but he is posting quality articles 1-2 times / week and he is doing very well.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
    Excellent post!!! I have been thinking about this type of strategy for a long time but never thought it would produce. I have wasted so much money and time on backlinks and now I'm sick about them. I'm DONE with backlinks...no more for me. I'm sticking with the old cliche..."Content is King".

    I started a new blog based on some lucrative keywords. I will post new articles as often as I can of about 400 - 500 words...outsourcing of course. Content Authority is great. I bought an article yesterday and it was very good. See what happens when I get to 100 posts.

    I think all of my other blogs (10 -12) that I built backlinks to are dead. Unnatural backlinks syndrome.

    I have an old blog on millionaires that gets 500 - 600 visitors per day. It has 100 articles and some crappy links from 6 years ago. It continues to get 500 visitors per day even though I have done nothing for 6 years. It does not rank well for any keywords that I know of...just longtails.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
    I really think SEO is coming to an end. Google will put an end to it as fast as it can. SEO Backlinks are now headed to an early grave. Google wants the money people are paying SEO companies for ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author renegadetmj
    Hi nest28, congratulations on finding a winning formula that you are able to make work and scale up.
    Out of interest, what level of article do you order from TCA? Basic, Great or Excellent?
    Do they require anything from you other than the topic/question you are wanting to cover in the article?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by renegadetmj View Post

      Hi nest28, congratulations on finding a winning formula that you are able to make work and scale up.
      Out of interest, what level of article do you order from TCA? Basic, Great or Excellent?
      Do they require anything from you other than the topic/question you are wanting to cover in the article?
      I order basic. I have even shown a article that I ordered some where in this thread. I have learned to be specific as possible. I used to say I need a basic article on nurses, but now I say I need a article on nurses please include salary, best schools to attend,exams and anything else related to the subject.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikengo
    Hi, thanks for sharing your method. One thing I don't see people mentioning about using blogger as your host is that it is never down? Also, it loads fast so Google got to love that.

    Anyway, I have a couples of questions for you nest28 if you don't mind.

    1) does your "main keyword" rank anywhere on Google?
    2) once the site is build out with 75-100 pages, do you still continue to add articles on a regular basis or you just move on to the next site?
    3) if there a minimum number of people landing on your site for a specific keyword before you start writing an article on that subject?

    Thanks,
    Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by mikengo View Post

      Hi, thanks for sharing your method. One thing I don't see people mentioning about using blogger as your host is that it is never down? Also, it loads fast so Google got to love that.

      Anyway, I have a couples of questions for you nest28 if you don't mind.

      1) does your "main keyword" rank anywhere on Google?
      2) once the site is build out with 75-100 pages, do you still continue to add articles on a regular basis or you just move on to the next site?
      3) if there a minimum number of people landing on your site for a specific keyword before you start writing an article on that subject?

      Thanks,
      Mike
      1. sometimes I may rank on first or second page for a keyword but without trying.
      2. I move on
      3.I used google analytics for my information in the past but starting this morning I use yahoo answers for ideas. Just put a keyword in and see all the questions that come up, any keyword with at least 2500 results in yahoo answers should be able to make money on long tail traffic alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikengo
    Thanks for the reply. Have you tried iwriter instead of TCA? It's $3 for 500 words. Quality may not be as good as TCA but you can save some money that way?
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  • Profile picture of the author KeNiQ
    Sorry for my ignorance but what is TCA? I'm looking to outsource my writting
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by mikengo View Post

      Thanks for the reply. Have you tried iwriter instead of TCA? It's $3 for 500 words. Quality may not be as good as TCA but you can save some money that way?
      I never heard of it but thanks I'll give it a try.
      Originally Posted by KeNiQ View Post

      Sorry for my ignorance but what is TCA? I'm looking to outsource my writting
      the content authority
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    I wanted to congratulate you on a nice layout and strategy that works for you and for showing that you can make money with adsense if you go about it strategically. Your post actually has inspired me to try to take action on an Adsense type site of my own. Right now, I make a couple bucks a day off of both my merchant sites, but they're not designed in a way that was meant for the sites to primarily be Adsense sites. Still the extra 50 - 100 bucks a month is a nice little extra, but I'd of course like to take this to the next level and make that 50 - 100 a week if possible or more.

    I don't know that I could partake in the medical profession given that I don't know anything about it other than trying to do the research to write. It probably wouldn't interest me anyhow even though I don't mind writing myself but I'd have to find a niche that would be worthwhile for me to write about. Unfortunately, hip hop doesn't have much of a conversion in terms of adsense revenue. Seems the major niches are always weight loss, medical field, internet marketing, lawyers, and insurance to name a few that come to mind.

    Thank you though for a major post! I've always wondered if I created a blog around a certain subject, and just created posts that would be long tail keywords, or even using my searched keywords as I debated on doing and see that you did, if i would eventually build a decent amount of traffic. Thank you for showing me that something like that is indeed possible. I wouldn't worry much on backlinks other than building my own manually here and there, but it's good to know that something like this is possible! Great work Nest! And thanks for sharing!
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

      I wanted to congratulate you on a nice layout and strategy that works for you and for showing that you can make money with adsense if you go about it strategically. Your post actually has inspired me to try to take action on an Adsense type site of my own. Right now, I make a couple bucks a day off of both my merchant sites, but they're not designed in a way that was meant for the sites to primarily be Adsense sites. Still the extra 50 - 100 bucks a month is a nice little extra, but I'd of course like to take this to the next level and make that 50 - 100 a week if possible or more.

      I don't know that I could partake in the medical profession given that I don't know anything about it other than trying to do the research to write. It probably wouldn't interest me anyhow even though I don't mind writing myself but I'd have to find a niche that would be worthwhile for me to write about. Unfortunately, hip hop doesn't have much of a conversion in terms of adsense revenue. Seems the major niches are always weight loss, medical field, internet marketing, lawyers, and insurance to name a few that come to mind.

      Thank you though for a major post! I've always wondered if I created a blog around a certain subject, and just created posts that would be long tail keywords, or even using my searched keywords as I debated on doing and see that you did, if i would eventually build a decent amount of traffic. Thank you for showing me that something like that is indeed possible. I wouldn't worry much on backlinks other than building my own manually here and there, but it's good to know that something like this is possible! Great work Nest! And thanks for sharing!
      Your welcome, I'm just glad I could hlp
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  • Profile picture of the author gbarrows31
    So I'm a BIG WP Fan, but one of the replies may have turned me on to blogspot. Question: When I use WP I buy a domain; install WP on that domain; pick a template; install on my hosting account and I'm off and running.. Would this be the same process for blogspot?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by gbarrows31 View Post

      So I'm a BIG WP Fan, but one of the replies may have turned me on to blogspot. Question: When I use WP I buy a domain; install WP on that domain; pick a template; install on my hosting account and I'm off and running.. Would this be the same process for blogspot?

      Thanks
      With blogspot simply buy a custom domain and that it
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianMaxwell1978
    If you have Adsense on your website or blog I hope you're not promoting a product or service because you're creating competition for yourself and once those people leave they'll never come back. Most experienced marketers that are making mid-high 5 figures or better will tell you that there is very little reward in Adsense. You know that it takes a lot to get someone to your website, blog, or affiliate page and now that they are finally there you've put yourself in competition with someone else on your home turf. And the crazy part about it is that you did it on purpose!

    Google loves you because you are providing their users with quality relevant content and there paying you pennies while advertisors are paying them millions for your hard earned traffic that you let slip away. Stop walking over the dollars to pickup the dimes. I tell my team to never give visitors a way to leave your page...especially not for another persons site. If they leave hopefully they signed up for something free or they're ordering. So if you're promoting a product I'd ask myself is Google paying you enough tp put your product potentially on the back burner in favor of someone else's. They will get the sale and you'll make $0.15! If you're not promoting a product I'd say Adsense makes sense if it's to make enough money to pay for hosting, something like that is cool. Just don't hurt yourself.

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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by BrianMaxwell1978 View Post

      If you have Adsense on your website or blog I hope you're not promoting a product or service because you're creating competition for yourself and once those people leave they'll never come back. Most experienced marketers that are making mid-high 5 figures or better will tell you that there is very little reward in Adsense. You know that it takes a lot to get someone to your website, blog, or affiliate page and now that they are finally there you've put yourself in competition with someone else on your home turf. And the crazy part about it is that you did it on purpose!

      Google loves you because you are providing their users with quality relevant content and there paying you pennies while advertisors are paying them millions for your hard earned traffic that you let slip away. Stop walking over the dollars to pickup the dimes. I tell my team to never give visitors a way to leave your page...especially not for another persons site. If they leave hopefully they signed up for something free or they're ordering. So if you're promoting a product I'd ask myself is Google paying you enough tp put your product potentially on the back burner in favor of someone else's. They will get the sale and you'll make $0.15! If you're not promoting a product I'd say Adsense makes sense if it's to make enough money to pay for hosting, something like that is cool. Just don't hurt yourself.

      Brian Maxwell
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      Explodeonlineincome.com
      No products just adsense, also no hosting fees with blogger. Thank you for your advice I learn something new everyday and I always look for better ways to make money. I have a couple methods of making money that I am experimenting with at the moment if I can stay off the warrior forum for a sec .
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  • Profile picture of the author rashmisinha
    there will be different kinds way to earn money but I think your time is good, & your idea has clicked,
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  • Profile picture of the author domainarama
    nest and others using blogspot:

    If you want backlinks without doing any work go to Layout then add a gadget (HTML/Javascript or text). The gadget should invite people to comment.

    To make that invitation more inviting tell people their comment will be dofollow. Now, in their natural state comments on blogspot blogs are nofollow. To make them dofollow you have to go into the code for the template. About 2/3 of the way down the code is the term "rel=nofollow" Once you delete rel=nofollow the comments are dofollow. There are instructions at hxxp://followlist(.)com(/)blog/category(/)dofollow-blog-info - this is NOT an affiliate link

    On my blogspot blogs I get less than a comment a day, but they are genuine comments so the backlinks help.

    There are other legit blogspot "tricks." For instance you can get rid of the ugly navbar at the top of blogspot blogs and you can add a snippet of code so when people click on a link on the page their click opens a new tab. That way the entire site remains open on their browser so they do not forget your site.

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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by domainarama View Post

      nest and others using blogspot:

      If you want backlinks without doing any work go to Layout then add a gadget (HTML/Javascript or text). The gadget should invite people to comment.

      To make that invitation more inviting tell people their comment will be dofollow. Now, in their natural state comments on blogspot blogs are nofollow. To make them dofollow you have to go into the code for the template. About 2/3 of the way down the code is the term "rel=nofollow" Once you delete rel=nofollow the comments are dofollow. There are instructions at hxxp://followlist(.)com(/)blog/category(/)dofollow-blog-info - this is NOT an affiliate link

      On my blogspot blogs I get less than a comment a day, but they are genuine comments so the backlinks help.

      There are other legit blogspot "tricks." For instance you can get rid of the ugly navbar at the top of blogspot blogs and you can add a snippet of code so when people click on a link on the page their click opens a new tab. That way the entire site remains open on their browser so they do not forget your site.

      nest28: Does the 28 in your name mean 28th Street? I grew up on 30th Street.
      Now that's what i'm talking about a very informative post. Ha Ha no my name is Ernest and I was 28 at the time that I signed up to warrior forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author PriceMaster
    Great idea! This holds true for most kinds of websites.

    Even those ranking their keywords should always try to grab the visitors attention by introducing interesting topics with long-tail keyword titles.
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  • Profile picture of the author thatkeywordguy
    What is the average size of long tail keyword you go for.

    e.g. is there a cutoff?

    e.g. sometimes people recommend not going under 5 words -- in the keyword phrase
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by thatkeywordguy View Post

      What is the average size of long tail keyword you go for.

      e.g. is there a cutoff?

      e.g. sometimes people recommend not going under 5 words -- in the keyword phrase
      The longer the better I go after very long phrases, basically sentences.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Idk if I'll ever finish that site it was hit with unnatural backlinks message today.
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    • Profile picture of the author dakar
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      Idk if I'll ever finish that site it was hit with unnatural backlinks message today.
      What backlinking methods did you use? Did you end up trying UAW?
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
    If you are doing that well, I would definitely throw in some extra SEO for some other keywords if I were you. Just test it out on a new website and see what kind of benefit you can have.

    The medical area does pay well in clicks. But there are tons of others; insurance, justice, etc..
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by StevenJones View Post

      If you are doing that well, I would definitely throw in some extra SEO for some other keywords if I were you. Just test it out on a new website and see what kind of benefit you can have.

      The medical area does pay well in clicks. But there are tons of others; insurance, justice, etc..
      I defiantly have to change my game plan. Testing new methods to see what works will be a time consuming effort that will most certainly have a negative impact on my income. As they say time is money.
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      • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I defiantly have to change my game plan. Testing new methods to see what works will be a time consuming effort that will most certainly have a negative impact on my income. As they say time is money.
        Well, we all need to go back to the drawing board once in a while. Take my software for example. It will be never finished, Google will keep updating and we need to find new ways and update our software with it. Not to mention adding new features and so on.

        The same goes for taking a whole new business approach. Innovation is important, but sometimes innovation lays in just changing one tiny simple thing, one simple tweak if you will. So don't consider to change your whole 'game'.

        So my advice would be (if you want any); start small and start tweaking those little things. And do consider SEO mate.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by dakar View Post

          What backlinking methods did you use? Did you end up trying UAW?
          No UAW, profile links,social bookmarks,article directories, few bmr posts, matt laclear's service,web 2.0 etc

          Originally Posted by StevenJones View Post

          Well, we all need to go back to the drawing board once in a while. Take my software for example. It will be never finished, Google will keep updating and we need to find new ways and update our software with it. Not to mention adding new features and so on.

          The same goes for taking a whole new business approach. Innovation is important, but sometimes innovation lays in just changing one tiny simple thing, one simple tweak if you will. So don't consider to change your whole 'game'.

          So my advice would be (if you want any); start small and start tweaking those little things. And do consider SEO mate.
          Advice is always welcome and appreciated by me, I just started 7 new sites none have any backlinks so I'l start with these. The first thing I'll do is build less links with higher value, and vary my anchor text more.
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  • Profile picture of the author BigNorm
    Anything remotely related to paid for backlinks I would recommend staying away from. Bookmarks, posting to article directories, web 2.0 etc don't fall within this category as their posts/links put on free websites. I basically keep a wide berth from anything where I have to purchase a link from. If it says it's private and yet available to be purchases then chances are it's not private. The only exception to this rule are services which are extremely limited to the amount of people they let in compared to the amount of blogs they host.
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  • Profile picture of the author mahacool
    You are doing the right thing. Blogger and wordpress are the ones to use. Simple and quick. You can also combine adsense with affiliate marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author tycoon828
    Hi nest28

    This is really a great thread. I already hit the thanks button but still want to say thanks to you here.

    I will start to try this method as soon as possible.

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by tycoon828 View Post

      Hi nest28

      This is really a great thread. I already hit the thanks button but still want to say thanks to you here.

      I will start to try this method as soon as possible.

      Cheers
      You are welcome my friend, just watch what kind of backlinks you use to your sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author SMSWriter
    Man, thank you for spilling your guts! I have a similar idea and it's nice to see that someone is realizing success with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlphaWarrior
    When I first read this thread, I thought that it was a great idea. Find long tail keywords/keyphrases and let them do the work. Little, if any, backlinking. Content was king.

    But when I read another thread by the op titled "All sites hit with the unnatural backlinks penalty , rankings are dropping fast", I really question a lot of this thread.

    There really seems to be a lot of backlinking that is responsible for the ranking. If not the backlinking, why would the sites drop in rankings? After all, the long tail keywords/keyphrases were suppose to be independent of and not affected by backlinking.

    Also, I understood that the sites had the standard home, about, privacy, etc. and then a hundred articles. But, per the other thread, each site also has videos, forums, contact me, etc. In other words, there were other factors that would help with rankings other than simply one hundred long tail articles.

    I am not saying that this thread is bad advice or that anything is wrong with the info given, but I am saying that there is a whole lot more to the op's original success as evidenced by his sites dropping in rankings as he explains in the other thread. Just beware.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior View Post

      When I first read this thread, I thought that it was a great idea. Find long tail keywords/keyphrases and let them do the work. Little, if any, backlinking. Content was king.

      But when I read another thread by the op titled "All sites hit with the unnatural backlinks penalty , rankings are dropping fast", I really question a lot of this thread.

      There really seems to be a lot of backlinking that is responsible for the ranking. If not the backlinking, why would the sites drop in rankings? After all, the long tail keywords/keyphrases were suppose to be independent of and not affected by backlinking.

      Also, I understood that the sites had the standard home, about, privacy, etc. and then a hundred articles. But, per the other thread, each site also has videos, forums, contact me, etc. In other words, there were other factors that would help with rankings other than simply one hundred long tail articles.

      I am not saying that this thread is bad advice or that anything is wrong with the info given, but I am saying that there is a whole lot more to the op's original success as evidenced by his sites dropping in rankings as he explains in the other thread. Just beware.
      I tried to share as much as possible with people , even showing one of my newest sites as a example. My others sites only receive a little over a hundred links a month and some months no links at all. I would consider that to be little to no backlinking compared to trying to rank for a competitive keyword and making a thousand or so backlinks a month. The method works, there have been plenty of warriors who have stated that they are doing something similar on their sites with great success.

      I only made the other thread as a warning and also to receive advice. I am not a seo expert. I could have kept the info to my self especially after just making a thread proclaiming my success.
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      • Profile picture of the author dezz26
        I had a question about your posting, do you set all your articles to be posted in the same day or do you drip feed them over time.
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  • Profile picture of the author brchap
    Ernest, you are one of a kind, my friend. I admire you for taking the time (and money) to do the work necessary to rise above the welfare system. You have set yourself apart from the Average Joe by skipping the pity party and taking real action. Then, on top of that, you go out of your way to share your process with the rest of the WF for free. You have even shared one of your sites, which I never would have advised anyone to do.

    I happen to be making a bit of coin myself from a similar process, and I know that it works. Sometimes, going for keywords that are "under the radar" (low search volume) can be pretty lucrative.

    Don't pay attention to the haters. They are still arguing with their own self-limiting belief systems, their fear of failure and their fear of success. So, don't take it personally. You rock.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by dezz26 View Post

      I had a question about your posting, do you set all your articles to be posted in the same day or do you drip feed them over time.
      As soon as the articles are done I post them. I guess it would seem random to google because it's normally 4 article here 9 articles there and so on.

      Originally Posted by brchap View Post

      Ernest, you are one of a kind, my friend. I admire you for taking the time (and money) to do the work necessary to rise above the welfare system. You have set yourself apart from the Average Joe by skipping the pity party and taking real action. Then, on top of that, you go out of your way to share your process with the rest of the WF for free. You have even shared one of your sites, which I never would have advised anyone to do.

      I happen to be making a bit of coin myself from a similar process, and I know that it works. Sometimes, going for keywords that are "under the radar" (low search volume) can be pretty lucrative.

      Don't pay attention to the haters. They are still arguing with their own self-limiting belief systems, their fear of failure and their fear of success. So, don't take it personally. You rock.
      Thank you very much sir, honestly thats one of the nicest things anyone has ever said about me . It's sad that people would rather hate or say that this method doesn't work without even trying it but if I say go make a 3 page site and rank for easy keyword with couple thousand searches a month they'll get started on that rite away. :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
        You turned me on to blogger. I never like it much before and still don't like their basic themes. But it seems if you know what you're doing, blogger can work great. I love some of the themes you're using. I'm building a few sites now. I'm going to try creating free ebooks with my links embedded in the text and upload them to document sharing sites. I've already just started this. I think I'm going to use this as my main backlinking strategy until I understand what's going on. Does that strategy seem good to you?
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonB
    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

    I only backlink the homepage using article marketing ,social bookmarks, forum profiles etc.
    When doing the above, do you outsource to others, do you use any particular software or software's? Do you manually submit articles, SPIN them?

    Where, how or who does this for you?

    Thanks
    JB
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by JasonB View Post

      When doing the above, do you outsource to others, do you use any particular software or software's? Do you manually submit articles, SPIN them?

      Where, how or who does this for you?

      Thanks
      JB
      I used various seo tools to accomplish my backlinking methods in addition to outsourcing to fiverr gigs and some services found here on the forum.

      All my sites have been hit with the unnatural backlinks notice so I don't use those backlinking methods anymore. My new sites seem to rank for long tail keywords just fine without any backlinks.


      Seo tools

      article marketing robot
      seo link rebot
      senuke
      auto backlink bomb
      auto blog commenter
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      • Profile picture of the author .
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post


        Seo tools

        article marketing robot
        seo link rebot
        senuke
        auto backlink bomb
        auto blog commenter
        there you go here is a genius.. building a full time income with "auto" software.
        Welcome to 2012 buddy, let see how much money you can make with the nice combo of autocraplinks ---> automated ---> adsense

        building mini niche sites to make tiny pennies here and there is the way to failure.
        why?
        FOOOOOOOTPRINT
        what footprint?
        your adsense codeeeee....

        amazes me how many people still think

        If I make 1 site per day and that site makes $1 per day...
        OMG OMG
        in 2 years I'm making $900 per day
        Yep... keep dreaming baby.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by rankinghero View Post

          there you go here is a genius.. building a full time income with "auto" software.
          Welcome to 2012 buddy, let see how much money you can make with the nice combo of autocraplinks ---> automated ---> adsense

          building mini niche sites to make tiny pennies here and there is the way to failure.
          why?
          FOOOOOOOTPRINT
          what footprint?
          your adsense codeeeee....

          amazes me how many people still think

          If I make 1 site per day and that site makes $1 per day...
          OMG OMG
          in 2 years I'm making $900 per day
          Yep... keep dreaming baby.
          If you even bothered to read the entire thread you would know that I don't use these tools anymore. I simply listed tools I used in the past.

          Also my patience is wearing thin with wf members such as yourself, who like to take cheap shots, imply that I'm stupid etc.


          Did you not read this part "All my sites have been hit with the unnatural backlinks notice so I don't use those backlinking methods anymore. My new sites seem to rank for long tail keywords just fine without any backlinks" .

          As a matter of fact I really don't know wth your talking about. I gave advice on how to make large authority sites with great content not small mfa site that you can make in a day.

          I don't even know why I'm explaining myself.
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        • Profile picture of the author mosthost
          Originally Posted by rankinghero View Post

          there you go here is a genius.. building a full time income with "auto" software.
          Welcome to 2012 buddy, let see how much money you can make with the nice combo of autocraplinks ---> automated ---> adsense

          building mini niche sites to make tiny pennies here and there is the way to failure.
          why?
          FOOOOOOOTPRINT
          what footprint?
          your adsense codeeeee....

          amazes me how many people still think

          If I make 1 site per day and that site makes $1 per day...
          OMG OMG
          in 2 years I'm making $900 per day
          Yep... keep dreaming baby.
          Next time, read the thread.
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          • Profile picture of the author GregMarketer
            Nest28,

            Thanks a lot, man, your latest threads are great! I'm starting a site along the guidelines you mention and I'll let you guys know how I'm doing. I fully believe this will work and I'm very grateful for your generous advice. Thanks so much
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by GregMarketer View Post

              Nest28,

              Thanks a lot, man, your latest threads are great! I'm starting a site along the guidelines you mention and I'll let you guys know how I'm doing. I fully believe this will work and I'm very grateful for your generous advice. Thanks so much
              I'm happy that my threads helped you , and good luck, if you need any help just ask.
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Nest28,

    I appreciate your threads and your posts...

    This rankinghero guy just made himself look a little silly because it's pretty obvious that he didn't bother to read this thread and took 1 comment you made out of context...

    Plus your sites are doing better than $1 a day I'm sure...

    And it's funny how these guys like to criticize but then when you ask them a question about a solution or a better way they usually don't have much to say...
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Nest28,

      I appreciate your threads and your posts...

      This rankinghero guy just made himself look a little silly because it's pretty obvious that he didn't bother to read this thread and took 1 comment you made out of context...

      Plus your sites are doing better than $1 a day I'm sure...

      And it's funny how these guys like to criticize but then when you ask them a question about a solution or a better way they usually don't have much to say...
      Thank you I really needed to hear that, I almost let my anger get the best of me. I'm really trying to remain the nice guy everybody knows me as but some people on this forum is making it hard.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by junne View Post

      Thanks for sharing your success story.

      I have a small question regarding pay per click price. How to know which niche pays more, like you are working in a medical field and you know you get paid for 2,3 or 5 per click.

      Like if i am comparing 2 niches insurance and loans how do i know which pays more?
      thanks in advance.
      You could always check adwords or any keyword tool. Both insurance and loans pay well I wouldn't even check.
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  • Profile picture of the author markwilson4074
    nest28 you are one of the best out here.

    Keep it up man.
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    Did the most recent Google update affect your sites at all?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

      Did the most recent Google update affect your sites at all?
      None of my sites are affected by google's update.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    Awesome stuff man, way to contribute to this forum!
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  • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
    hello ernest,

    i just want to say thank you for your great share
    i have joined this forum almost 1 year (maybe more) with no username. but after reading your post i decide to create username just to say thank you.

    i'll try to follow your guide (and i did). if you don't mind i have a newbie question.

    the recent panda update, is it impact to your site/earning?

    how your backlinking strategy after this crazy panda update?


    thank you very much
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by ceilbleu View Post

      hello ernest,

      i just want to say thank you for your great share
      i have joined this forum almost 1 year (maybe more) with no username. but after reading your post i decide to create username just to say thank you.

      i'll try to follow your guide (and i did). if you don't mind i have a newbie question.

      the recent panda update, is it impact to your site/earning?

      how your backlinking strategy after this crazy panda update?


      thank you very much
      I feel honored you went through the trouble of creating a user name just to say thanks.

      Now to answer your questions, I no longer backlink to my sites. As far as my income goes most of my new sites are incomplete by my standards so I haven't placed adsense on them yet.

      I've had the idea to build a very large site for a while now but was scared of losing money if the site was unsuccessful but recently I've put these fears aside.

      My new site will be at least 500 pages, based on 5 medical careers.

      No exact match domains instead I plan on using a unique name,logo,vids the whole 9 yards.

      In this era of marketing I think it is best to set yourself apart from the rest. Whatever you see everybody else doing, do the opposite, they go left , you go right.

      Everybody followed each other right down the drain, build quality sites and don't backlink to them and you will have nothing to fear from google.


      Edit: I've been getting messages from people that have used my methods on their existing blogs/websites and all say it work. I'm happy that some of you actually took time out to try something new.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Wow great stuff man. Thanks for all the tips. Do you mind if I message you some time? I failed miserably with blogger, and hopefully I can get better at it.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Wow great stuff man. Thanks for all the tips. Do you mind if I message you some time? I failed miserably with blogger, and hopefully I can get better at it.
      Sure message me anytime.
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  • Profile picture of the author samc37
    Hello nest,

    When building your 500 page website, are you going to be using the same strategy you've been, using the long tail keywords that are in the form of questions as the titles for your articles?

    Also, that's pretty amazing that none of your sites got affected by the penguin update, congrats

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
    so, is it mean that we can ignore the competition on our niche, because we used "q&a long tail keyword" that in fact there is no data on any keyword tools.

    for example, u will not find "how many hours do ultrasound technicians work in hospital" on any keyword tool
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  • Profile picture of the author sackboy127
    I think it would be a good idea to start some real SEO as well, if your sites are doing this well with so little effort on the SEO part, I think you could easily triple your visitors within a few months. Just my 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    Great to know that such a strategy can work well. Thanks for telling us the details


    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
    Hey Nest28,

    I have to admire your commitment. Most people give up with writing articles, especially 100. I can see this method working but can't see many people sticking to the discipline of writing around 100 articles for one blog.

    If you get an average of $150 per site, that is truly wonderful and when you times that by 50 = $7500. It proves that if your determined, anything in life is achievable.

    Thanks for sharing
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by samc37 View Post

      Hello nest,

      When building your 500 page website, are you going to be using the same strategy you've been, using the long tail keywords that are in the form of questions as the titles for your articles?

      Also, that's pretty amazing that none of your sites got affected by the penguin update, congrats

      Thanks
      Actually I plan on mixing it up a bit, 35%long tail,35% questions,30% natural articles that deal with the main topic.

      For example recently I had a article written on "how to become a nurse<-not my keyword btw, and while I was reading this article the writer mentioned 2 certificates that are need to become a nurse. So now I want him to write another article explaining what this certificates are why nurses need them.


      Originally Posted by ceilbleu View Post

      so, is it mean that we can ignore the competition on our niche, because we used "q&a long tail keyword" that in fact there is no data on any keyword tools.

      for example, u will not find "how many hours do ultrasound technicians work in hospital" on any keyword tool
      I like this phrase "q&a long tail" can I steal that lol. No as a matter of fact if you were to check for that phrase my threads have become my competition, but normally you only have to deal with yahoo answers as far as competition goes.

      Originally Posted by sackboy127 View Post

      I think it would be a good idea to start some real SEO as well, if your sites are doing this well with so little effort on the SEO part, I think you could easily triple your visitors within a few months. Just my 2 cents.
      The ultrasound site is just a example, my real sites have meta tags, internal linking, etc.
      Originally Posted by Chris- View Post

      Great to know that such a strategy can work well. Thanks for telling us the details


      Chris
      You welcome
      Originally Posted by Ross Petal View Post

      Hey Nest28,

      I have to admire your commitment. Most people give up with writing articles, especially 100. I can see this method working but can't see many people sticking to the discipline of writing around 100 articles for one blog.

      If you get an average of $150 per site, that is truly wonderful and when you times that by 50 = $7500. It proves that if your determined, anything in life is achievable.

      Thanks for sharing
      If I had to write these article I probably wouldn't get far, I use the profits from my sites that do make money to make other sites. I couldn't write a article to save my life, especially one related to the medical field.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    nest28 thank you very much for your great effort to help other people and patiently answer their questions. I want to start a project like this one, but at this moment I don't really have money for a custom domain on blogger, so I was thinking to start with a common blogger domain, do you think it is possible to rank with it? I think it is, because I know for a blogger site without custom domain which is ranked #1-#2 on google for over 2 years now, for over 8.000 exact local searches pm, very stable position. I think google now most care about quality of content, and not about what is the domain name. What others think about it?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      nest28 thank you very much for your great effort to help other people and patiently answer their questions. I want to start a project like this one, but at this moment I don't really have money for a custom domain on blogger, so I was thinking to start with a common blogger domain, do you think it is possible to rank with it? I think it is, because I know for a blogger site without custom domain which is ranked #1-#2 on google for over 2 years now, for over 8.000 exact local searches pm, very stable position. I think google now most care about quality of content, and not about what is the domain name. What others think about it?
      It's defiantly possible to rank a blogspot blog without using a custom domain, in my experience in takes more to get it rank or indexed though. Basically you have to banklink to achieve the same results that a custom domain gets easily without effort.
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    • Profile picture of the author domainarama
      I have many custom and non-custom blogspot domains. There might be a difference. But I'm not sure it's huge difference. In my experience the content of the domain is more important than whether or not it is custom/non-custom.

      A year ago I started a couple dozen domains within a week of each other. Some took a long time (and lots and lots of posts) before they got a significant number of visitors. One -- a blogspot job -- got lots of visitors from the first week. What's interesting is that it got lots of visitors even though it violated Blogger rules (it was a 'make money' domain -- I have since migrated the domain to WP). That experience taught me that content is king, not mathematical formulas about SEO etc.

      IF YOU HAVE BLOGSPOT DOMAINS make sure to back them up once in a while. If you have lots of original content you probably don't have to worry. But you never know about what Google will do, so backing up is a safety precaution.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    It will maybe be even more easier with new google update. After all, it's never late to switch to custom domain, even if you already have many posts. I think I will try it and if I find it too hard I can then switch to custom domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author jefkas
    Good post. I've taken the long tail keyword route for years.. and have made thousands in adsense $$. I never backlink or do any off page seo of any kind. If you build enough long tail keyword sites, you'll make money... and Google algo updates never affect my money. This system is actually far more difficult than mine but I have no doubt it works... based on how my own sites perform.
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    • Profile picture of the author mootonandy
      Nice idea. Seems like the way to go nowadays.
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  • Profile picture of the author TamilYoung
    Thanks for the share! If you don't mind can you share us how many sites you have and what is your average earning per month on a single site? How much time you spend on maintaining the site?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by TamilYoung View Post

      Thanks for the share! If you don't mind can you share us how many sites you have and what is your average earning per month on a single site? How much time you spend on maintaining the site?
      I use to have 15 sites, income ranged from 130.00 to 170.00 per site. Very little maintenance was involved, just sent a couple links a month and that's about it.

      Now I have 7 sites, that are on hold to make way for a new site that I'm working on, I hope to achieve a much higher income with this one site.
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      • Profile picture of the author inter123
        It is all a question of profit, that is the bottom line.

        What is the (cost of 100+ articles) plus (SEO work) plus (other costs e.g. hosting). If I understood right, the sites got hammered by Google in the recent debacle and are (almost) redundant?

        Given all that, did you manage to make a handsome profit for the time you put in?

        As for starting new sites, there is nothing to say the same thing might not happen again. Google does not give a **** about anyone but itself, someone can follow all the guidelines and still end up in the garbage 6 months down the line.

        Not trying to be a hater, just being realistic. Probabaly best to get in, make as much money as possible quickly and get out. Businesses based on search engine ranking is very fickle.
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        • Profile picture of the author mootonandy
          Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

          It is all a question of profit, that is the bottom line.

          What is the (cost of 100+ articles) plus (SEO work) plus (other costs e.g. hosting). If I understood right, the sites got hammered by Google in the recent debacle and are (almost) redundant?

          Given all that, did you manage to make a handsome profit for the time you put in?

          As for starting new sites, there is nothing to say the same thing might not happen again. Google does not give a **** about anyone but itself, someone can follow all the guidelines and still end up in the garbage 6 months down the line.

          Not trying to be a hater, just being realistic. Probabaly best to get in, make as much money as possible quickly and get out. Businesses based on search engine ranking is very fickle.
          Hes going for the long tails, not just one phrase with a site heavily optimised for it.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

          It is all a question of profit, that is the bottom line.

          What is the (cost of 100+ articles) plus (SEO work) plus (other costs e.g. hosting). If I understood right, the sites got hammered by Google in the recent debacle and are (almost) redundant?

          Given all that, did you manage to make a handsome profit for the time you put in?

          As for starting new sites, there is nothing to say the same thing might not happen again. Google does not give a **** about anyone but itself, someone can follow all the guidelines and still end up in the garbage 6 months down the line.

          Not trying to be a hater, just being realistic. Probabaly best to get in, make as much money as possible quickly and get out. Businesses based on search engine ranking is very fickle.
          Your right you never know what google will throw at you next, that why I'm looking to diversify my income.

          I've been looking into selling sites on flippa. My old sites all together would have been worth 30,000 to 40,000 had I sold them.
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          • Profile picture of the author bummed.out
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            My old sites all together would have been worth 30,000 to 40,000 had I sold them.
            Yep, I know the feeling. Even at a valuation of a year's income (and it looks like they're going for a lot more), I could've gotten, potentially, 15 or 20K for mine, had I jumped and sold them before Google's bears and birds started eating them and crapping on them.

            Lesson from that? Move on things when you can.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    I've started a project like this today. I took the niche that I am good at so I will write all posts on my own. So whoever don't have money to pay for that much articles, just pick something you are good at, something that you really like, and most likely you will be able to write articles on your own. I will be updating this thread about my progress from time to time.
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      I've started a project like this today. I took the niche that I am good at so I will write all posts on my own. So whoever don't have money to pay for that much articles, just pick something you are good at, something that you really like, and most likely you will be able to write articles on your own. I will be updating this thread about my progress from time to time.
      People shouldn't worry so much about writing quality. Just edit the posts and get rid of grammatical errors and SAY SOMETHING. If you can teach someone something in a post, you don't have to be a great writer. Just communicate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    That is exactly what I'm thinking. If you are good at something, and you like it, you will have no problems with writing posts.
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      That is exactly what I'm thinking. If you are good at something, and you like it, you will have no problems with writing posts.
      You got it. And don't forget to do videos if you have the ability. People LOVE watching videos so it's a great way to make your posts more authoritative, especially if you're revealing tricks or secrets they might not know. Plus YouTube is another excellent channel to gain exposure on.
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  • Profile picture of the author FraserC
    Hey nest28, I want to thank you for doing this post and give you huge props for your openness and honesty. This is very close to my methods, and brings me about 1.5 million search visitors a month.

    You're doing some things exactly right with your method
    - diversify your keywords across longtail variations
    - derive your traffic from large numbers of keywords, not single keywords
    - base your income on the average earnings per article, not the revenue from any single article. More articles = more income
    - focus on content, not backlinking

    I think you're 99% of the way there to a longterm viable strategy that can weather any number of search engine ups and downs, but I want to echo what Milker said earlier in this thread. You're still creating sites which would be considered Made for Adsense and would still get hammered by a manual penalty or an algorithm like Panda. Furthermore, what little backlinking you've done could still trigger a penalty from Penguin.

    Here's what I'd recommend:
    - think long term. Not 1-year, but 10-years. What website would you be willing to work on for the rest of your life? How will you make the world better, and improve people's lives?

    - set up a domain name and use a CMS that you control. I know you've had success with Blogger, and I think that's a perfectly viable strategy for a disposable website. But not for a site that you're going to seriously invest in.

    - focus on 1, maybe 2 websites at the most. Make them great, so they'd withstand a manual review with flying colors.

    - take a two-pronged strategy to your content creation. Build content social content that will go viral and attract natural visitors and create a real community. And then create the keyword-targeted content that will bring in the search traffic. You'll want to play with the mixture, but don't rely too heavily on the keyword-targeted stuff. Maybe 50/50?

    - set the quality of your content much much higher. This stuff from Content Authority isn't going to cut it. Figure out a way to get higher quality content - the kind of stuff that a total enthusiast would love.

    - don't bother linkbuilding at all. Just focus on the content and community, and let them link to your articles on their own. You'll get super longtail traffic to your articles at first, and then more direct traffic that matches the keywords you're targeting. The links will come, all on their own.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by FraserC View Post

      Hey nest28, I want to thank you for doing this post and give you huge props for your openness and honesty. This is very close to my methods, and brings me about 1.5 million search visitors a month.

      You're doing some things exactly right with your method
      - diversify your keywords across longtail variations
      - derive your traffic from large numbers of keywords, not single keywords
      - base your income on the average earnings per article, not the revenue from any single article. More articles = more income
      - focus on content, not backlinking

      I think you're 99% of the way there to a longterm viable strategy that can weather any number of search engine ups and downs, but I want to echo what Milker said earlier in this thread. You're still creating sites which would be considered Made for Adsense and would still get hammered by a manual penalty or an algorithm like Panda. Furthermore, what little backlinking you've done could still trigger a penalty from Penguin.

      Here's what I'd recommend:
      - think long term. Not 1-year, but 10-years. What website would you be willing to work on for the rest of your life? How will you make the world better, and improve people's lives?

      - set up a domain name and use a CMS that you control. I know you've had success with Blogger, and I think that's a perfectly viable strategy for a disposable website. But not for a site that you're going to seriously invest in.

      - focus on 1, maybe 2 websites at the most. Make them great, so they'd withstand a manual review with flying colors.

      - take a two-pronged strategy to your content creation. Build content social content that will go viral and attract natural visitors and create a real community. And then create the keyword-targeted content that will bring in the search traffic. You'll want to play with the mixture, but don't rely too heavily on the keyword-targeted stuff. Maybe 50/50?

      - set the quality of your content much much higher. This stuff from Content Authority isn't going to cut it. Figure out a way to get higher quality content - the kind of stuff that a total enthusiast would love.

      - don't bother linkbuilding at all. Just focus on the content and community, and let them link to your articles on their own. You'll get super longtail traffic to your articles at first, and then more direct traffic that matches the keywords you're targeting. The links will come, all on their own.
      I really appreciate you taking time out to give me advice, moving away from blogger has been on my mind for a while now. My methods are what's important not what blogging platform I use, so it would be a good idea to have a self hosted site on wordpress.

      Also your right about building large sites ,I've always wanted to build a real authority site with thousands of pages, I really don't like the idea of having more than one site and having one site would suite me best.

      I was just about to launch a new site on blogger , until I saw this post. All my knowledge and experience comes from blogspot, now I have to learn all about wordpress and self hosting.

      I'm thinking about finishing this one last site on blogger and than selling it to fund a bigger project on my own site.

      I'm still new to IM , and have a lot more to learn.
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      • Profile picture of the author Instantfruit
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        All my knowledge and experience comes from blogspot, now I have to learn all about wordpress and self hosting.
        Wordpress is pretty easy Nest, I`m sure you wont struggle with it
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  • Profile picture of the author warezQQ
    Thanks for the information, its priceless!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    The methods outline by FraserC are likely too much work for most people, but they're the closest to a white hat strategy I've seen outlined lately.

    I think it's easier to build a website the way he describes now than ever before. A few years back you would have a problem distributing your content. Now you can take it directly to the social sites and direct to your niche audience.

    If the quality is very high, people will actually spread it for you. Then you might just attract natural links.

    People who focus on this method will probably be outperformed by spammers for the first six months or so. After that, though, they'll have a growing revenue stream and the scammers will be out scrounging around for a plan to follow from the latest 'link building guru.'
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  • Profile picture of the author bloggerd
    Glad iv come acrros this post,iv had adsense account for over a year and most i have in it is £29 lol yes i know thats bad so hopfuly i can use you helpful advice and start making alittle more from my adsense..

    Thanks for the great info
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  • Profile picture of the author FraserC
    Finding a webhost, installing Wordpress and customizing it might be new challenges, but they're not that difficult. Many webhosts will let you install Wordpress with a single click.
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by FraserC View Post

      Finding a webhost, installing Wordpress and customizing it might be new challenges, but they're not that difficult. Many webhosts will let you install Wordpress with a single click.
      Obviously there's nothing to it. That's why 100,000 new Wordpress blogs are crapped out onto the internet every day! That's right, 3,000,000 Wordpress blogs arrive each month.

      You can get 'Just Another Wordpress Blog' running in no time
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  • Profile picture of the author Jaspry
    I wish I could give you 10 more 'Thanks', FraserC. That is the ultimate authority site plan! Like someone else said, because of the extra work involved, it will discourage many, but I feel it's the most future-proof method I've ever seen. No gimmicks, no shady tactics, no risks, just pure generation of quality content over a large playing field.

    I have an authority site around a certain type of sporting product. Now I wish I would have registered a domain one tier higher to create the authority site around a wider variety of sporting products, as the effort I am putting into quality content, product reviews, social content and the like might net me a larger variety of traffic in the long run. Ever since reading FracerC's post, I realize my long term potential is only about 100 pages of content for this certain sporting good. Upon reaching that plateau, I might register the larger lifestyle domain and go for a broader variety of traffic and authority content.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Jaspry View Post

      I wish I could give you 10 more 'Thanks', FraserC. That is the ultimate authority site plan! Like someone else said, because of the extra work involved, it will discourage many, but I feel it's the most future-proof method I've ever seen. No gimmicks, no shady tactics, no risks, just pure generation of quality content over a large playing field.

      I have an authority site around a certain type of sporting product. Now I wish I would have registered a domain one tier higher to create the authority site around a wider variety of sporting products, as the effort I am putting into quality content, product reviews, social content and the like might net me a larger variety of traffic in the long run. Ever since reading FracerC's post, I realize my long term potential is only about 100 pages of content for this certain sporting good. Upon reaching that plateau, I might register the larger lifestyle domain and go for a broader variety of traffic and authority content.
      I came to the same conclusion a while back, instead of being the authority on 1 sport like golf, how about building a site like sports fanatic.com and talk about any and every sport there is. That approach gives you plenty of room for growth, a site like that would be limitless.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jaspry
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I came to the same conclusion a while back, instead of being the authority on 1 sport like golf, how about building a site like sports fanatic.com and talk about any and every sport there is. That approach gives you plenty of room for growth, a site like that would be limitless.
        So going from 'micro-niche' we're going 'macro-niche' or authoritative! I love it!

        All proper paths to SEO lead to high branded sites, and since we're in it for the long-haul, we might as well market something we enjoy. (Who would want to spend 10 years pumping out content on 4-slice toasters? Not me!)
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    I think it's also worth mentioning that these sites that only make a hundred a month can be sold for 20x times that. Some people have commented saying a hundred dollars a month is not worth writing a hundred articles. Well if you write and get your site earning you can always sell it on flippa. On average my sites made around 130.00 I could have sold them for at least 2,000 each. You could make a business model out of that alone.

    I would also go with unique names, instead of a common emd. For some reason people don't want to build brands, just crappy sites. I don't see to many people on the wf that aspire to build the next facebook or youtube, everybody wants to build a bunch of crappy mfa sites instead of a million dollar a year site. Its ok to think big, think long term.
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    • Profile picture of the author dakar
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      I think it's also worth mentioning that these sites that only make a hundred a month can be sold for 20x times that. Some people have commented saying a hundred dollars a month is not worth writing a hundred articles. Well if you write and get your site earning you can always sell it on flippa. On average my sites made around 130.00 I could have sold them for at least 2,000 each. You could make a business model out of that alone.

      I would also go with unique names, instead of a common emd. For some reason people don't want to build brands, just crappy sites. I don't see to many people on the wf that aspire to build the next facebook or youtube, everybody wants to build a bunch of crappy mfa sites instead of a million dollar a year site. Its ok to think big, think long term.
      Good observation.
      That's what I'm seeing as well. Makes me consider whether this is a good place to learn how to take a site to the next level. Would going to a paid forum give me access to people building million dollar sites?

      With that being said, i love this place. I get to read ideas from people like you, and FraserC.
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    • Profile picture of the author xiro25
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      I think it's also worth mentioning that these sites that only make a hundred a month can be sold for 20x times that. Some people have commented saying a hundred dollars a month is not worth writing a hundred articles. Well if you write and get your site earning you can always sell it on flippa. On average my sites made around 130.00 I could have sold them for at least 2,000 each. You could make a business model out of that alone.

      I would also go with unique names, instead of a common emd. For some reason people don't want to build brands, just crappy sites. I don't see to many people on the wf that aspire to build the next facebook or youtube, everybody wants to build a bunch of crappy mfa sites instead of a million dollar a year site. Its ok to think big, think long term.

      Very True and good point. Lets say you have 100 articles on your website that earns 130/month. You then hold onto that site for 6 months. You now have 780$, then go to sell it on flippa for 12 times its income( which defintely achievable if not more) So that would be 1560$. Minus some fees would leave you with profit of 2240$ that is 22.40 per article. Not bad if you ask me.
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  • Profile picture of the author odohjc
    Hi nest28,
    You have shown that most of the fears being put forward by some Gurus on the disadvantages of having free hosting may not actually be true. You have braved it and making money without paying for hosting. I am impressed by your success and I intend to go and reactivate my blogger account and continue from where I stopped.

    Thanks for the information.

    odohjc
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    • Profile picture of the author WareTime
      Originally Posted by odohjc View Post

      Hi nest28,
      You have shown that most of the fears being put forward by some Gurus on the disadvantages of having free hosting may not actually be true. You have braved it and making money without paying for hosting. I am impressed by your success and I intend to go and reactivate my blogger account and continue from where I stopped.

      Thanks for the information.

      odohjc
      True. Nest28 takes enough precautions that in the UNLIKELY event that Blogger shuts him down, he can put up a wordpress site and import and redirect. The advantage of Blogger is you don't have to worry about getting hacked like you do with Wordpress. You can get on with running your business, not playing sysadmin.

      Not trying to dissuade you to much Nest28. Try Wordpress to see for yourself. It's just that with a quality centric approach as your taking, why would blogger want to shut you down? And, you're protected if they did.

      Another choice as someone mentioned is build static sites. Xsitepro works well for that.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by WareTime View Post

        True. Nest28 takes enough precautions that in the UNLIKELY event that Blogger shuts him down, he can put up a wordpress site and import and redirect. The advantage of Blogger is you don't have to worry about getting hacked like you do with Wordpress. You can get on with running your business, not playing sysadmin.

        Not trying to dissuade you to much Nest28. Try Wordpress to see for yourself. It's just that with a quality centric approach as your taking, why would blogger want to shut you down? And, you're protected if they did.

        Another choice as someone mentioned is build static sites. Xsitepro works well for that.
        I was going to migrate to wordpress because of so many people telling that it's not smart to have my sites on blogger ,but this voice in my head was like "do what works for you" so I'm stay with blogger a little longer until I figure some things out.

        I swear I don't know what I would do without that voice to guide me, it tells me everything I need to know , btw I'm not crazy lol I just have this voice that tells me all the right choices to make.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    It's funny I've learned more from my own thread these last couple of weeks than I ever did in my 2 and half yrs of being a wf member. There has been numerous marketers who are far more successful than myself giving advice on how to make a great site.

    Its to bad that most will read Fraser's advice, but not take heed to it. Instead the masses flock to the latest threads explaining how to make small mfa site that will get you nowhere.

    If you would like to have a sig like Fraser's and be able to say you own a site that gets a million unique visitors a month than build great sites, forget targeting specific keywords and write naturally.

    I plan on have just a few sites over the next couple years that I plan on build to very large authority sites. This may take years but who cares, there are plenty of marketers who have been trying to rank sites for a high competition keyword only to fail time again., and some time this process can last years. Why not put the work in now so that in a years time you have a site that's making you thousands a month, one of the perks of these kind of sites is you really don't have to do much once it's popular unlike these little niche sites that you have to constantly monitor and backlink to.

    Google has showed it's disdain for these mfa site which should be a clue to marketers to move on to something better. I'm noticing a trend here at the wf, where everybody seems to follow what everybody else is doing, that why when a algo or new penalty happens you see a hundred threads about how all your sites have been hit. Dare to be different if you want to be successful at internet marketing. Stop being that guy/girl who simply finds keywords and backlinks, and start being a true marketer who is able to make money 6 different ways easy.

    One thing I did notice about most of my threads is those who oppose my way of thinking fall in one of two groups, backlink providers or guys who just find keywords and backlink.
    Another thing I notice was almost every marketer that agrees with me are very successful marketers with great sites.

    I'll let you decide which group you would like to be apart of, btw this is by no means a cheap shot to those that provide backlinking services or to the guys that make small niche sites.


    I have a gut feeling that in the years to come google will crack down even harder on imer's, so exact match domains,buffer sites, article marketing, social bookmarks etc will all be hit hard, and the forum will flood with the usual the sky is falling threads. All of the signs are there, google has been telling us for years to straighten up and fly right.

    I rambled far to long, I care about you guys, seeing you succeed would actually make me happy, hopefully some will take the advice and move on from these tired old methods that a child could perform.
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    • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      It's funny I've learned more from my own thread these last couple of weeks than I ever did in my 2 and half yrs of being a wf member. There has been numerous marketers who are far more successful than myself giving advice on how to make a great site.

      Its to bad that most will read Fraser's advice, but not take heed to it. Instead the masses flock to the latest threads explaining how to make small mfa site that will get you nowhere.

      If you would like to have a sig like Fraser's and be able to say you own a site that gets a million unique visitors a month than build great sites, forget targeting specific keywords and write naturally.

      I plan on have just a few sites over the next couple years that I plan on build to very large authority sites. This may take years but who cares, there are plenty of marketers who have been trying to rank sites for a high competition keyword only to fail time again., and some time this process can last years. Why not put the work in now so that in a years time you have a site that's making you thousands a month, one of the perks of these kind of sites is you really don't have to do much once it's popular unlike these little niche sites that you have to constantly monitor and backlink to.

      Google has showed it's disdain for these mfa site which should be a clue to marketers to move on to something better. I'm noticing a trend here at the wf, where everybody seems to follow what everybody else is doing, that why when a algo or new penalty happens you see a hundred threads about how all your sites have been hit. Dare to be different if you want to be successful at internet marketing. Stop being that guy/girl who simply finds keywords and backlinks, and start being a true marketer who is able to make money 6 different ways easy.

      One thing I did notice about most of my threads is those who oppose my way of thinking fall in one of two groups, backlink providers or guys who just find keywords and backlink.
      Another thing I notice was almost every marketer that agrees with me are very successful marketers with great sites.

      I'll let you decide which group you would like to be apart of, btw this is by no means a cheap shot to those that provide backlinking services or to the guys that make small niche sites.


      I have a gut feeling that in the years to come google will crack down even harder on imer's, so exact match domains,buffer sites, article marketing, social bookmarks etc will all be hit hard, and the forum will flood with the usual the sky is falling threads. All of the signs are there, google has been telling us for years to straighten up and fly right.

      I rambled far to long, I care about you guys, seeing you succeed would actually make me happy, hopefully some will take the advice and move on from these tired old methods that a child could perform.
      I totally agree with your way of thinking and came to that conclusion a few pages back when I was at my godaddy cart purchasing domains for your method. Before I clicked the purchase button I realised at that moment that I had been at this stage before and it didn't end to well as of recently. I quickly opened up a tab researched a niche that interested me, thought of a cool domain name to brand my new site, emptied my shopping cart of all domains but this chosen one and clicked purchased. To the future! I am tired of looking over my shoulder and backlinking the **** out of "Keyword Optimized" pages.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by mbmehmet View Post

        I totally agree with your way of thinking and came to that conclusion a few pages back when I was at my godaddy cart purchasing domains for your method. Before I clicked the purchase button I realised at that moment that I had been at this stage before and it didn't end to well as of recently. I quickly opened up a tab researched a niche that interested me, thought of a cool domain name to brand my new site, emptied my shopping cart of all domains but this chosen one and clicked purchased. To the future! I am tired of looking over my shoulder and backlinking the **** out of "Keyword Optimized" pages.
        I'm glad you decided to stop the cycle of following what everybody else is doing.

        To help some of the noobs or even marketers who have been in the game for a while a tell you a short story on why I abandoned the whole backlink for high rankings method.

        A couple years back when I first started IM ,, I went after the keyword benefit eyeshadow , at the time it was suppose to have 4,400 hundred exact searches a month. I backlinked and backlinked until finally I ranked 3rd and I saw no traffic. Google update there keyword tool and benefit eyeshadow search went from 4,400 to just 400. I had been working all that long time for nothing.

        Another example is with my old ultrasound site, I started to see more than just a few first page listing, so I decided to use bmr, I had signed up a day before they closed their doors to new customers. I remember telling my girlfriend how lucky I was lol.

        I started to climb the first page for ultrasound tech, which gets 6,600 exact searches a month finally I hit position 4 and had a whopping 2 people visit my site via keyword ultrasound tech.

        It cost me a couple hundred dollars in bmr posts just to reach position 4, and guess what my final reward was from all my hard work,a nice little message from google, named unnatural link notice.


        I followed the masses right down the drain, 2,100 month gone.
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        • Profile picture of the author cipha
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          I'm glad you decided to stop the cycle of following what everybody else is doing.

          To help some of the noobs or even marketers who have been in the game for a while a tell you a short story on why I abandoned the whole backlink for high rankings method.

          A couple years back when I first started IM ,, I went after the keyword benefit eyeshadow , at the time it was suppose to have 4,400 hundred exact searches a month. I backlinked and backlinked until finally I ranked 3rd and I saw no traffic. Google update there keyword tool and benefit eyeshadow search went from 4,400 to just 400. I had been working all that long time for nothing.

          Another example is with my old ultrasound site, I started to see more than just a few first page listing, so I decided to use bmr, I had signed up a day before they closed their doors to new customers. I remember telling my girlfriend how lucky I was lol.

          I started to climb the first page for ultrasound tech, which gets 6,600 exact searches a month finally I hit position 4 and had a whopping 2 people visit my site via keyword ultrasound tech.

          It cost me a couple hundred dollars in bmr posts just to reach position 4, and guess what my final reward was from all my hard work,a nice little message from google, named unnatural link notice.


          I followed the masses right down the drain, 2,100 month gone.

          First I want to say thank you so much for this post it has really shed some light on the site that I have been working on for a couple of months and what I need to do. And from these past few months of getting my feet wet I realized out of all the other steps of building a successful site, backlinking for me is the least liked. So I have been on a hunt to see if there is a way to have a successful site without doing all that extra manual backlinking and now I have this method that I will definitely try.

          The question I have is why was your traffic so low once you got to the 4th position on google when the exact match search was so high?
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    • Profile picture of the author WareTime
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post


      Its to bad that most will read Fraser's advice, but not take heed to it. Instead the masses flock to the latest threads explaining how to make small mfa site that will get you nowhere.
      True


      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post


      Google has showed it's disdain for these mfa site which should be a clue to marketers to move on to something better. I'm noticing a trend here at the wf, where everybody seems to follow what everybody else is doing, that why when a algo or new penalty happens you see a hundred threads about how all your sites have been hit. Dare to be different if you want to be successful at internet marketing.
      Very good advice. It pays to be a contrarian. Don't follow the lemmings over the cliff.

      The method that you, Fraser and myself follow is much more immune to the whims of Google.

      In a way Penguin did us (us meaning good content builders) a favor. I've never liked scouring the earth for backlinks and know the "value":rolleyes: of the easily gotten backlinks. Now there is even less incentive to worry about backlinking at all. In this regard my experience has been favorable. I have a 40 page site earning me over $100 consistently each month from Google. Needless to say, I'm adding to it, not registering 15 cheap domains and building a link farm. Fraser is right about just putting your head down and rolling out good content.


      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post


      One thing I did notice about most of my threads is those who oppose my way of thinking fall in one of two groups, backlink providers or guys who just find keywords and backlink.
      Yeah, the shovel salesman like to play a key role in the gold rush. And the lazy will always be with us, though they like to tout "work smarter, not harder". The harder I work the luckier I get. I'll bet your experience is the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jaspry
    I'd like to say I was about to give up on this forum because it seemed people were more interested in the next big gimmick and quick-cash scheme rather than creating authority, brand, and user experience (things that newbie SEOs dont want to hear about). I was begining to think I'd find no conversation about that here, so in a way this thread renewed some hope in me for the community.

    I love hearing you guys talk about this bigger picture, stuff that true SEO is about, not just backlinking and creating artificial popularity. That stuff will slowly suffocate in time! I was a Member of the black hat rat race years ago til Google patched it and i fell, got discouraged and gave up. (ironic because my dayjob is a fulltime SEO marketing consultant at a major company, two different playing fields though, they have money to invest i dont haha!)

    A month ago i realized A) theres still monetary potential in creating imformative websites, B) my first time around i wasnt in it for the people i was in it for myself. I changed my outlook, and now im seeking longterm authority. Let my 20 micro domains expire and left with just 2 authority ones.

    No real lesson here, just consider this my formal introduction to you all, especially to you nest28, waretime and fraser! Nice to be a part of the high-striving community!
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Jaspry View Post

      I'd like to say I was about to give up on this forum because it seemed people were more interested in the next big gimmick and quick-cash scheme rather than creating authority, brand, and user experience (things that newbie SEOs dont want to hear about). I was begining to think I'd find no conversation about that here, so in a way this thread renewed some hope in me for the community.

      I love hearing you guys talk about this bigger picture, stuff that true SEO is about, not just backlinking and creating artificial popularity. That stuff will slowly suffocate in time! I was a Member of the black hat rat race years ago til Google patched it and i fell, got discouraged and gave up. (ironic because my dayjob is a fulltime SEO marketing consultant at a major company, two different playing fields though, they have money to invest i dont haha!)

      A month ago i realized A) theres still monetary potential in creating imformative websites, B) my first time around i wasnt in it for the people i was in it for myself. I changed my outlook, and now im seeking longterm authority. Let my 20 micro domains expire and left with just 2 authority ones.

      No real lesson here, just consider this my formal introduction to you all, especially to you nest28, waretime and fraser! Nice to be a part of the high-striving community!
      Welcome to the "Anti-Marketers" club
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      • Profile picture of the author Hud
        Dude posting one of your sites was a huge mistake...

        I've seen others do that, and the result was often the same: drop in rankings or worse, adsense ban...

        Fortunately you have not posted adsense to this site yet, because if you had, it would be easy to find the remaining sites using the same adsense id.

        I don't know why this happens, maybe because of haters that want to show you that you are wrong so they "help you" a little bit... or others who simply want to try out stuff they wont on their own sites, knowing that you would provide feedback without knowing it... or google looking out on forums like these... but it does not really matter.

        My advice for you:
        Sell this site on flippa, get rid of it ASAP, do not add adsense to it or you might risk your whole income.

        Another thing about the haters... they will always be there, its not about you, its not even about them lol, its just how the world works, there will always be some that won't believe what u say, because they simply believe in something else, and believing you might even put their belief in jeopardy. So they fight back,its like an instinct. And the more of a public figure you become, the more you will experience it for yourself, simply because you expose yourself to a wider audience.. Just see it like that: its natural, and best to be simply ignored, dont take those posts serious.

        It might be a important step to disversify your income sources though... add cpa, or amazon links, play with different sources, just to be less dependent on ONE adsense account. You could also make some ebooks about those topics and sell them yourself.

        You could also try article syndication ala Alexa, to get a) high quality backlinks and b) an additional traffic source, making you less dependent on google traffic. Just be careful not to fall into the offsite anchor stuffing trap.

        Also, try to get people to opt in to an email list. This is where you can provide more information and at the same time sell stuff, that makes sense for the kind of people who sign up to your email list. So even if you get banned from google, kicked from adsense, you would still be able to sell some stuff to the people on your email list, giving you some time to build up something else... and btw, email marketing can be very profitable too. Just dont overdo it.



        Other then that... great thread... and just makes me feel like I am on the right track too, with going for lots of high quality content and (almost?) no link building... and your way got some nice tweaks that I learned from... so thanks for sharing.

        And one last thing... dbz rulez.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    A fellow dragon ball z fan eh lol. Like I said if cartoons and tv ads paid more I would defiantly build sites around those topics. As far as revealing my sites go, they have already been hit with a unnatural link notice. They are of no value to me anymore. The new site I'm working will of course be kept private but I thank you for your concern.

    Also I've been looking into cpa from schools, and did you know you can get paid anywhere from 7.00 to 30.00 per lead, not looking into that really cost me a lot of money.


    Oh and as far as the haters go, not even phased by them anymore, in fact in the future I wont even reply to them.
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    • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      Also I've been looking into cpa from schools, and did you know you can get paid anywhere from 7.00 to 30.00 per lead, not looking into that really cost me a lot of money.
      Plus with those CPA offers your conversions will possibly be a little higher than Adsense because you're giving your audience what they want, i.e., information about what it takes to get into the medical profession and then the actual school that they can contact (CPA offer) to make it happen or at least get more info .
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

        Plus with those CPA offers your conversions will possibly be a little higher than Adsense because you're giving your audience what they want, i.e., information about what it takes to get into the medical profession and then the actual school that they can contact (CPA offer) to make it happen or at least get more info .
        Exactly, a great alternative if I ever get banned from adsense. I always wondered why the top site had these banners, that said type in your area code to find a school. I knew they must have been making good money but when I search cpa offers from schools I couldn't find anything. Until a couple days ago I came across a old thread on wf talking about the best cpa for information type sites. Now I know exactly what to do.
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        • Profile picture of the author saganator
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          Exactly, a great alternative if I ever get banned from adsense. I always wondered why the top site had these banners, that said type in your area code to find a school. I knew they must have been making good money but when I search cpa offers from schools I couldn't find anything. Until a couple days ago I came across a old thread on wf talking about the best cpa for information type sites. Now I know exactly what to do.
          I'm actually working on a semi-authority site in the health niche and I too have been searching and searching for good info on those zip code banners to no avail. Mind sharing a link to that thread?
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by Karen Blundell View Post

            Nest,

            I had to return to this thread and say that even though you are doing some things that I wouldn't recommend (like using Blogger, lol), I'm still very impressed with how you have patiently answered everyone's questions here. The way you handle the "haters" is also commendable.

            For everyone else and especially for new warrior members here, pay attention! What Nest has done here is how you build yourself a good reputation in this forum, as someone who is helpful, generous, and willing to work hard to accomplish goals.

            Here's my only suggestion to you Nest (and I'm sure you already are doing something about this because you're smart): Start diversifying a bit, so that you are not just relying on the (cough) almighty Google for a living. (If you pay attention to some of my posts, I'm not a Google kool-aid drinker, lol. )

            Your strategy for building content sites in great niches could and should even make you more money if you use affiliate products or create your own. In fact, I think you'd make a great content creator. Look at this thread. It should have been a WSO, and I think that based on your attention to everyone who contributed to this thread, if you ever decide to create a WSO, people will buy, if it's remotely as good as what you've given away here for free.

            When you treat people the way you want to be treated, and you're generous with your time and resources, people are good to you. I know because I too give away a lot of free stuff, and most times, I don't have to look for money, it just comes to me in the form of web development referrals, people wanting to advertise on my site, etc.

            I think you're the same kind of person. Whether I agree with how you make your money isn't the point of this post. What is important is that you have left a big impression on a lot of people here, so I think you have a very bright future based on your attitude and how you handle people.

            When you care about other people's success, success naturally comes to you.

            I wish you all the best in your future endeavours. Take care and have a wonderful day!

            Thank you for the kind words. I know I have a few people worried about me using blogger but I'll be fine. As far as the wso type stuff goes ,it's not for me. I get messages all time saying it would sell or that I should make one, but my focus is on making sites right now.

            It's weird though some how I became kinda popular, when all I was trying to do was help people out.
            Originally Posted by Hud View Post

            I wouldn't worry about unnatural link building notices... all it means is that some or all links you've built to your site are devalued. And judging by how you did link building... its no surprise, I guess (fiver forum profile gigs, etc).

            Think about it that way, ANY site can get such a warning, and even if its only because someone has built spam links to that site on purpose... can't be a big problem, at least not for long, cause people will abuse it so hard if it really has an effect that there might even be more link spam then before lol.

            Just add some new links, that look more natural, dont keyword anchor stuff your links and you're good to go. Actually it would be a pain to see if you just let your sites sit there and do nothing... because of some scary letter and a few devalued links.

            Did you think about syndicating your articles... I dont remember if you have already. Since google knows every of your posts, it will see your sites as the original, and maybe some people will syndicate the links giving you some free links without much work.
            I don't think those sites will ever come back, none of my ranking have increased, all my sites are sitting at page 50-60.
            Originally Posted by saganator View Post

            I'm actually working on a semi-authority site in the health niche and I too have been searching and searching for good info on those zip code banners to no avail. Mind sharing a link to that thread?
            Don't ya just hate when people say they found a good resource but are unwilling to share. I could just kick myself for not looking harder for those cpa offers, it only took me 5 minutes to find this info.


            CollegeBound.net - Corporate

            Commission Empire, Top CPA Network

            Smart E Offers

            PlattFormPartners.com |

            Empire Avenue | Expand, Engage, Evaluate

            These places are paying 7.00 to 30.00 per lead. Good luck. Oh yea I think commission empire is suppose to be the best. I had that thread bookmark but when I tried to go back it said invalid url or something, good thing I copied the best info when I did.
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            • Profile picture of the author dakar
              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              Thank you for the kind words. I know I have a few people worried about me using blogger but I'll be fine. As far as the wso type stuff goes ,it's not for me. I get messages all time saying it would sell or that I should make one, but my focus is on making sites right now.

              It's weird though some how I became kinda popular, when all I was trying to do was help people out.

              I don't think those sites will ever come back, none of my ranking have increased, all my sites are sitting at page 50-60.


              Don't ya just hate when people say they found a good resource but are unwilling to share. I could just kick myself for not looking harder for those cpa offers, it only took me 5 minutes to find this info.


              CollegeBound.net - Corporate

              Commission Empire, Top CPA Network

              Smart E Offers

              PlattFormPartners.com |

              Empire Avenue | Expand, Engage, Evaluate

              These places are paying 7.00 to 30.00 per lead. Good luck. Oh yea I think commission empire is suppose to be the best. I had that thread bookmark but when I tried to go back it said invalid url or something, good thing I copied the best info when I did.
              Thanks for the links Ernest!
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveJim
    Idea is good, to target only title of page by submitting new posts on bookmarking and networking sites, this help in fast indexing of new content, and if your site has images good chance that these images can get rank. But one thing need for this, that is producing regular content and unique content every day.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by SteveJim View Post

      Idea is good, to target only title of page by submitting new posts on bookmarking and networking sites, this help in fast indexing of new content, and if your site has images good chance that these images can get rank. But one thing need for this, that is producing regular content and unique content every day.
      I've found that my sites post's get in indexed seconds after I post them without and bookmarking.
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
        Nest,

        I had to return to this thread and say that even though you are doing some things that I wouldn't recommend (like using Blogger, lol), I'm still very impressed with how you have patiently answered everyone's questions here. The way you handle the "haters" is also commendable.

        For everyone else and especially for new warrior members here, pay attention! What Nest has done here is how you build yourself a good reputation in this forum, as someone who is helpful, generous, and willing to work hard to accomplish goals.

        Here's my only suggestion to you Nest (and I'm sure you already are doing something about this because you're smart): Start diversifying a bit, so that you are not just relying on the (cough) almighty Google for a living. (If you pay attention to some of my posts, I'm not a Google kool-aid drinker, lol. )

        Your strategy for building content sites in great niches could and should even make you more money if you use affiliate products or create your own. In fact, I think you'd make a great content creator. Look at this thread. It should have been a WSO, and I think that based on your attention to everyone who contributed to this thread, if you ever decide to create a WSO, people will buy, if it's remotely as good as what you've given away here for free.

        When you treat people the way you want to be treated, and you're generous with your time and resources, people are good to you. I know because I too give away a lot of free stuff, and most times, I don't have to look for money, it just comes to me in the form of web development referrals, people wanting to advertise on my site, etc.

        I think you're the same kind of person. Whether I agree with how you make your money isn't the point of this post. What is important is that you have left a big impression on a lot of people here, so I think you have a very bright future based on your attitude and how you handle people.

        When you care about other people's success, success naturally comes to you.

        I wish you all the best in your future endeavours. Take care and have a wonderful day!

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        • Profile picture of the author Hud
          I wouldn't worry about unnatural link building notices... all it means is that some or all links you've built to your site are devalued. And judging by how you did link building... its no surprise, I guess (fiver forum profile gigs, etc).

          Think about it that way, ANY site can get such a warning, and even if its only because someone has built spam links to that site on purpose... can't be a big problem, at least not for long, cause people will abuse it so hard if it really has an effect that there might even be more link spam then before lol.

          Just add some new links, that look more natural, dont keyword anchor stuff your links and you're good to go. Actually it would be a pain to see if you just let your sites sit there and do nothing... because of some scary letter and a few devalued links.

          Did you think about syndicating your articles... I dont remember if you have already. Since google knows every of your posts, it will see your sites as the original, and maybe some people will syndicate the links giving you some free links without much work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    What you guys think, what to do with the new sites in terms of SEO after the update? Except quality content, is there anything I can do? Maybe just links from related content or something like that?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      What you guys think, what to do with the new sites in terms of SEO after the update? Except quality content, is there anything I can do? Maybe just links from related content or something like that?
      Personally I intend on going after social media to receive both traffic and backlinks. My full attention is set to find what methods work best this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aussie_Al
    Great Thread Nest! Just finished reading the whole thing

    keep doing what works best for you

    Quick question are you planning to build lists from your visitors? An Autoresponder sequence , etc etc
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Aussie_Al View Post

      Great Thread Nest! Just finished reading the whole thing

      keep doing what works best for you

      Quick question are you planning to build lists from your visitors? An Autoresponder sequence , etc etc
      Yes, having that unnatural link notice hit me was like a wake up call. I hadn't been letting my sites reach there full potential,so building lists,cpa offers,using the feed burner/adsense feature etc. I'm sure that my next site will earn much more than the typical 100.00 to 150.00 a month quota.
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      • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
        When you say Blogger custom domain do you mean .blogspot.com? or your own domain?

        When did you get an unnatural links message? what backlinks did you use? I thought you didn't use backlinks? or is this what you are doing since you got hit?

        I got slapped by Google recentely, over $3000 p/m gone, that's $36,000 per year! Thankfully adsense haven't banned my account (yet), as I got hit hard, ouch!

        I feel like setting myself a challenge with this, I already have 2000 articles of unique content sat around in high paying niches.

        I paid for this content ages ago but never got round to building the sites, I even built a custom wordpress theme but don't know whether just to go with a Blogspot blog, what do you think? I was going to optimise it with easy wp seo but don't know whether that's a good idea.

        I did design a full Blogger template too from scratch, it looks pretty decent, I like Blogger, it's my favourite web publishing tool.

        Looking around for things to do, I have a few ideas for coding some software and a decent FB app, but might do a 60 day challenge on this and see if I can hit $2000 in 60 days with just content, what do you think, this possible? put all those backlinkers to shame...
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  • Profile picture of the author komplex
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    I don't focus on small sites anymore, instead a few sites with thousands of quality and readable content. BUT, your advice to use long tails in the article name and check the referring ones actually might help out so thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    I think backlinking is not dead, now you just need to care very much about link relevancy, and make it look most natural as possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by dmtaylor247 View Post

      When you say Blogger custom domain do you mean .blogspot.com? or your own domain?

      When did you get an unnatural links message? what backlinks did you use? I thought you didn't use backlinks? or is this what you are doing since you got hit?

      I got slapped by Google recentely, over $3000 p/m gone, that's $36,000 per year! Thankfully adsense haven't banned my account (yet), as I got hit hard, ouch!

      I feel like setting myself a challenge with this, I already have 2000 articles of unique content sat around in high paying niches.

      I paid for this content ages ago but never got round to building the sites, I even built a custom wordpress theme but don't know whether just to go with a Blogspot blog, what do you think? I was going to optimise it with easy wp seo but don't know whether that's a good idea.

      I did design a full Blogger template too from scratch, it looks pretty decent, I like Blogger, it's my favourite web publishing tool.

      Looking around for things to do, I have a few ideas for coding some software and a decent FB app, but might do a 60 day challenge on this and see if I can hit $2000 in 60 days with just content, what do you think, this possible? put all those backlinkers to shame...
      Correct I got hit with that penalty a month ago and since than have decided not to backlink to my new site. 2,000 articles is a lot of content I'm sure you'll do just fine. It's hard to say if you'll make 2,000 from a single site without backlinking, but I intend to find out myself. All of my old sites stop at a hundred pages, but my new site will go well beyond that.

      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      I think backlinking is not dead, now you just need to care very much about link relevancy, and make it look most natural as possible.
      If you plan on backlinking I would defiantly stay away from services and software.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    When you say you use blogger custom domains, what do you mean by that? you buy a domain from a registrar and let blogger host it?
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  • Profile picture of the author todawg_not
    nest28 a brother from another mother. 30 is young lol

    Thanks for the valuable info on this thread. I read every post. The way
    you build out your sites is on the money. I have a couples WP sites with
    over 150 posts each and they pull in Adsense income like bees to honey. It's
    sweet logging into your account in the morning knowing you've made money. Some
    nights I sleep well, but going back to your strategy I like how you said there
    is enough long tail traffic in "typed search terms people are looking for"
    if you add enough articles and focus on quality not back links.

    I think this post has enstilled some confidence back into adsense after Penguin
    and for me personally I need to keep building up, not out, as you see many marketers
    building heaps of small Pre-fab adsense sites and flipping them for 20 x income. Good
    cash flow for seller but not a long-term statergy for buyer unless they keep
    building up.

    That's valuable right there. Thank you.

    90% of the stuff on this forum I pay no attention too anyway

    I like the "Anti-marketer" club



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  • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
    OK, possibly $2k/60 days a little OTT, but I think $1k in 60 days is doable - 10 articles per day = 6 x 100 page websites that could make $150 per month each = $900.

    My old sites were having 400/500 adsense clicks per day and the avr cpc was £0.10, to get that traffic it was hard work and risky. I only went after competitive terms. These were big authority sites, so unlike you I want to go the opposite way and keep them smaller, that way if you get one site hit then it's not a site you put alot of work into, one of my sites that disappeared took me 2 1/2 years to build. <== Gutted!

    Now I'm starting to think the mid-range sites that work with long tails are better, 100 pages of content all targeted, no spammy links and high cpc, seems to work well, I think for the effort involved, it pays more to do it this way and there's less risk.

    Like you I made some big mistakes with my old sites, I could have flipped them months ago, some of them could have gone for $20,000+

    Also I had the chance and failed at building a huge list, millions! if I did this then I probably would have been ok now, so next time I'm not gonna be lazy and do more marketing.

    For this reason I wanted to go back into the niches I was in, BH style and just rape the internet with backlinks and a huge network of sites, just not using adsense but building a huge list.

    If I did this then I think I could have made $10k per day easily which is why I'm swinging whitehat or black hat if I go the BH then I would only need to survive a month then I'm finished.

    It's just at the end of the day BH sites that pull alot of traffic are alot of work, I don't know if I can be bothered with it anymore..
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  • Profile picture of the author lexilexi
    Best thread I have read for ages. Thanks guys, esp. nest28 - much respect to you for your success, hard work and being open to sharing so much with the forum. Alex.

    ps. love the "anti marketer" line... it reminds me of old business saying "when everyone zigs, I zag".
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by todawg_not View Post

      nest28 a brother from another mother. 30 is young lol

      Thanks for the valuable info on this thread. I read every post. The way
      you build out your sites is on the money. I have a couples WP sites with
      over 150 posts each and they pull in Adsense income like bees to honey. It's
      sweet logging into your account in the morning knowing you've made money. Some
      nights I sleep well, but going back to your strategy I like how you said there
      is enough long tail traffic in "typed search terms people are looking for"
      if you add enough articles and focus on quality not back links.

      I think this post has enstilled some confidence back into adsense after Penguin
      and for me personally I need to keep building up, not out, as you see many marketers
      building heaps of small Pre-fab adsense sites and flipping them for 20 x income. Good
      cash flow for seller but not a long-term statergy for buyer unless they keep
      building up.

      That's valuable right there. Thank you.

      90% of the stuff on this forum I pay no attention too anyway

      I like the "Anti-marketer" club



      Nigel
      I like this guy lol, yea it does feel good when you wake up and see that you made 100.00 yesterday, feel weird right now when I see no page views in my account and no money.

      Originally Posted by dmtaylor247 View Post

      OK, possibly $2k/60 days a little OTT, but I think $1k in 60 days is doable - 10 articles per day = 6 x 100 page websites that could make $150 per month each = $900.

      My old sites were having 400/500 adsense clicks per day and the avr cpc was £0.10, to get that traffic it was hard work and risky. I only went after competitive terms. These were big authority sites, so unlike you I want to go the opposite way and keep them smaller, that way if you get one site hit then it's not a site you put alot of work into, one of my sites that disappeared took me 2 1/2 years to build. <== Gutted!

      Now I'm starting to think the mid-range sites that work with long tails are better, 100 pages of content all targeted, no spammy links and high cpc, seems to work well, I think for the effort involved, it pays more to do it this way and there's less risk.

      Like you I made some big mistakes with my old sites, I could have flipped them months ago, some of them could have gone for $20,000+

      Also I had the chance and failed at building a huge list, millions! if I did this then I probably would have been ok now, so next time I'm not gonna be lazy and do more marketing.

      For this reason I wanted to go back into the niches I was in, BH style and just rape the internet with backlinks and a huge network of sites, just not using adsense but building a huge list.

      If I did this then I think I could have made $10k per day easily which is why I'm swinging whitehat or black hat if I go the BH then I would only need to survive a month then I'm finished.

      It's just at the end of the day BH sites that pull alot of traffic are alot of work, I don't know if I can be bothered with it anymore..
      Luke stay away from the dark side jk, but stay white hat it will pay off in the long run.
      Originally Posted by lexilexi View Post

      Best thread I have read for ages. Thanks guys, esp. nest28 - much respect to you for your success, hard work and being open to sharing so much with the forum. Alex.

      ps. love the "anti marketer" line... it reminds me of old business saying "when everyone zigs, I zag".
      Glad yall like the anti-marketers slogan. I just feel like I don't want to do what everybody else is doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author anthonyrude
    nest28-

    First off, thanks for the great thread.

    I've learned a lot.

    Since you have undoubtedly become the blogger/adsense expert on this forum whether you wanted to or not I have a couple questions for you...

    I would like to know how to get my adsense ads "inside" my content.

    The widget allows me to put it at the top/bottom and side of my posts but not inside my posts.

    I'm new to this so detailed instructions will be greatly appreciated.

    The other thing I'm trying to figure out is how to pick the keywords for the ads that are shown.

    I understand that google will choose the ads for me based on my content but I thought I read somewhere that we can influence or suggest keywords to use.

    Right now I just put up a very small post just to see how to get the adsense widget to work. It seems that the ads that come up now are just standard ads, like ads for google adwords.

    Any help with this would be great and thanks again for this great thread.

    You really should consider turning this into a wso.
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  • Profile picture of the author anthonyrude
    One more thing...

    Do you know how to set the "look and feel" of the dashboard?

    The new blogger dashboard sometimes becomes a really dark background where I can't see any of the words until i put my cursor over a section and then it has a white background.

    Just wondering if you have seen this problem too.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by anthonyrude View Post

      One more thing...

      Do you know how to set the "look and feel" of the dashboard?

      The new blogger dashboard sometimes becomes a really dark background where I can't see any of the words until i put my cursor over a section and then it has a white background.

      Just wondering if you have seen this problem too.
      First expand template

      Press ctrl and f at the same time and a search box will appear in the upper right corner.

      Enter this inside the search box <div class='post-header-line-1'/>


      Than paste the code below replacing the xxxx with you adsense id



      <b:if cond='data:blog.pageType == &quot;item&quot;'>
      &lt;div style=&quot;float: left;&quot;&gt;
      &lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!--
      google_ad_client = &quot;pub-xxxxxxxxxxxx&quot;;
      google_ad_host = &quot;pub-xxxxxxxxxxx&quot;;
      google_ad_slot = &quot;xxxxxxxxx&quot;;
      google_ad_width = 300;
      google_ad_height = 250;
      google_ad_format = &quot;300x250_as&quot;;
      google_ad_type = &quot;text&quot;;
      google_ad_channel = &quot;&quot;;
      //--&gt;
      &lt;/script&gt;
      &lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;
      src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com...s.js&quot;&gt;
      &lt;/script&gt;
      &lt;/div&gt;
      </b:if>

      I never experience the dashboard becoming dark. As far as the ads go you just need to put the right content and you'll have relevant ads.
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    How you can do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    After google newest update, is it good idea to build links on the home page, but with using long tails (post names) for anchor?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      After google newest update, is it good idea to build links on the home page, but with using long tails (post names) for anchor?
      I don't build links anymore, if you feel the need to just build a few good links a week. I wouldn't recommend using software or backlinks services.
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    • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      After google newest update, is it good idea to build links on the home page, but with using long tails (post names) for anchor?
      I would build links if you are trying this on a domain you own, but not to a Blogger website. I actually got a blog banned once for throwing links at it building a pyramid to my money site. Not sure if that's what caused it, but if any of you plan to use Blogger (as I do) to mimic Nest, bypass the link building altogether.

      My first test was on a WordPress site, so I felt more comfortable building links to a domain I own. Personally, I like the idea of focusing on my website more than linking scheme's - its just hard to break my belief in the importance of backlinks.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

        I would build links if you are trying this on a domain you own, but not to a Blogger website. I actually got a blog banned once for throwing links at it building a pyramid to my money site. Not sure if that's what caused it, but if any of you plan to use Blogger (as I do) to mimic Nest, bypass the link building altogether.

        My first test was on a WordPress site, so I felt more comfortable building links to a domain I own. Personally, I like the idea of focusing on my website more than linking scheme's - its just hard to break my belief in the importance of backlinks.
        I know giving up on backlinking sounds crazy, but when you look at all the penalties handed out because of link building you'll start to see why it may be good idea to just let your visitors link to you.
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        • Profile picture of the author WareTime
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          I know giving up on backlinking sounds crazy, but when you look at all the penalties handed out because of link building you'll start to see why it may be good idea to just let your visitors link to you.
          It's getting saner by the minute. I was "crazy" and didn't backlink these last five years. Do I have any regrets. Nope. I built content that people would naturally link to. I knew sooner or later the cheap links would be worthless or maybe worse than worthless.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      Off Topic: Hey nest can you please check your fb messages
      I don't have any new messages.
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    Oh okay, thanks anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author FraserC
    And remember. Any time you spend building links is time you could be spending creating content on your own website.

    Spend less time doing the thing Google penalizes you for. Spend more time doing the thing Google rewards you for.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    Hi, Nest! Do you know if it's better to give a blog a custom domain name in the beginning or wait to change the name until it is better established? I bought a domain name, but so far I've only got 11 posts on the new blogger blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author windsorsprings
    I have also been building up to 50 pages of 1000 word articles on my sites but have not made much money to date with adsense. I'm thinking about trying to put amazon on also. have you tried that at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by windsorsprings View Post

      I have also been building up to 50 pages of 1000 word articles on my sites but have not made much money to date with adsense. I'm thinking about trying to put amazon on also. have you tried that at all.
      Use custom domain from the very start.
      Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

      Hi, Nest! Do you know if it's better to give a blog a custom domain name in the beginning or wait to change the name until it is better established? I bought a domain name, but so far I've only got 11 posts on the new blogger blog.
      Never tried amazon, but I intend to.
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  • Profile picture of the author maxjpip
    Hi Nest,

    When you looking for keywords have around 500-800 searches per month, do you use broad type or [exact] type to find these keywords?

    by the way, this is a great thread to for people who have little experience and low budget. You did a great thing here
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by maxjpip View Post

      Hi Nest,

      When you looking for keywords have around 500-800 searches per month, do you use broad type or [exact] type to find these keywords?

      by the way, this is a great thread to for people who have little experience and low budget. You did a great thing here
      You really don't have to do keyword research other than finding a keyword with a high exact local search. Just make your site based on that keyword ,answer every question a visitor might have, also post good info in general and you wil receive traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
    Man I just found this thread

    Thanks so much for great information, I might be back here for questions

    My thoughts:

    - I think you are doing well because you are using a google platform even if you're using custom domains, and looks like you're buying them from google through blogger, am I right? if so, google is helping indexed and rank your sites for sure,yes, yes you are under google radar, but if you stick with great information, no way google will penalize you.
    - You are saving money with host,you don't need to worry about space and hosting problems putting down your sites and not risking your sites with hacks(worpress)
    - The only down side you can't sell on flippa, but if it's brings you money, do you really care in sell it????
    - 100+ articles is a lot of money to invest, you really got to make sure it will pay you back, is a risk, but I think it's worth.

    My questions:
    - Do you use only 1 gmail account for all blogger sites(I remember, I've got adsense account through blogger in 24 hours, but I never use the adsense blogspot ever since)?????
    - If you use every site 1 gmail account, in your case 15 sites 15 gmail accounts, maybe you can sell your gmail account here on warrior if you decide to make a fast cash??? just a thought
    - How you choose your domain? I mean, you look for a low competition keyword or brand way? could you give us exemple?

    Regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author evertd
      Originally Posted by Greenfatman View Post

      - The only down side you can't sell on flippa, but if it's brings you money, do you really care in sell it????
      There were several mentions of not being able to sell blogger blogs, but you sure should be able to. Here is how you can "transfer" a blog to another google account:

      - go to the blog's settings page, under permissions, click add authors and enter the gmail address of the other person and you can set that account as an admin
      - when that person accepts the invitation, they have admin access to the blog too, and they can then go and delete you as an author

      At least that is the way you could do it with the old blogger dashboard, I'm sure it is probably a lot harder with the new "improved" dashboard.

      PS: Thanks Ernest for starting this thread, it is a good read.
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      • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
        Originally Posted by evertd View Post

        There were several mentions of not being able to sell blogger blogs, but you sure should be able to. Here is how you can "transfer" a blog to another google account:

        - go to the blog's settings page, under permissions, click add authors and enter the gmail address of the other person and you can set that account as an admin
        - when that person accepts the invitation, they have admin access to the blog too, and they can then go and delete you as an author

        At least that is the way you could do it with the old blogger dashboard, I'm sure it is probably a lot harder with the new "improved" dashboard.

        PS: Thanks Ernest for starting this thread, it is a good read.
        if its used custom domain then it's easy to sell. just export into xml format and import to new blogspot, then remove the custom domain on old blog and set it on new blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Sorry guys but I'll be taking a break from the forum for a while, search through the thread and I'm sure you will find your answers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cade21
      Nest,
      Thanks for all the great information. A lot of us appreciate your openness about what works for you, and how you set things up. I understand why you are taking some time away from WF. You've taken a lot of hits that you didn't deserve. Sorry you have to spend so much time defending yourself instead of discussing more techniques. I'm incorporating your keyword strategy into my existing sites. I'll let you know how things are going in another few weeks.

      You've got a great system, buddy, and you're a class act. Stay with it and make even more money. Let the haters chase their tails.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    Nothing wrong with backlinks as long as they are from the "right" sources. Nothing wrong with doing this method either. To each his own, and success to everyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author thatkeywordguy
    and have the right anchor text....
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Fraserc said to think about making a site that I can see myself working on for the next ten years or the rest of my life.

    That is my goal right now, I'm building a site to be a little larger than 100 pages, I'm going to try for 500 pages just to give me a idea of how much money a larger site can make.

    I think I'll do just fine without having to pay for backlinking service or software, at least I know the chances of my site being hit by a penalty are greatly reduced by doing so.



    ATTENTION TO ALL THE NOOBS- don't follow my method because it has become popular, do what feels right to you.

    If building a quality site that you can be proud of appeals to you than please by all means get started on your next site.

    Also stop making sites in batches ,buying 15 emd at once, all you really need is one good site to tell you the truth.

    I mean think how easier things will be if you focus on one site. And to all the don't put your eggs in one baskets critics tell that to the owner of facebook, or twitter.

    Think about all the domains you bought and how they been a waste because of the whole build as many crappy sites has you can logic that is popular on wf and online in general.

    People may try to dissect/analyze my methods all they want, but their based on strong principles, make greats sites, with great content.

    I just want you guys to think about your future, I mean if you built a 1000 page site in any niche I'm sure you would get enough traffic to make a full time living. Preferably in a high paying niche.

    Ok now I can take my break lol. I'll report my rankings, and income on my new sites as soon as it starts to receive traffic. I just bought the domain on thursday, and placed articles on friday.
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    • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
      I'm just curious why you limited yourself to that 100 page limit then moved on to another site. Do you believe you got all you could out of that domain? Would 200 pages doubled your income from a particular site?
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by Carl Brown View Post

        I'm just curious why you limited yourself to that 100 page limit then moved on to another site. Do you believe you got all you could out of that domain? Would 200 pages doubled your income from a particular site?
        Honestly I never question the thing I did back than until now, things like not using cpa offers or building my sites larger than 100 pages.

        Looking back , I could have incorporated all those sites into one large authority site and made the same amount of money. This is what I am attempting now.
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        • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
          Hey, you know what, great post.

          I have not read through anyone's whole thread in quite some time (without falling asleep LOL). But this is great.

          Thank you very much for all your efforts to help others.

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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post

            Hey, you know what, great post.

            I have not read through anyone's whole thread in quite some time (without falling asleep LOL). But this is great.

            Thank you very much for all your efforts to help others.

            Patrick
            It's been my pleasure. I learned a lot about my own methods by answering every one's questions. I had the chance to look at things in a 3rd person point of view, I been able to point out certain mistakes , and any flaws in what I've been doing.

            You guys have help me as much I have help you so thank you very much, I really do appreciate it.
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  • Profile picture of the author bmcgoff
    Nest -

    Awesome thread (as if that needs to be said). I know you're on break... but something no one has asked: what's your content like? On a scale from "clearly not written written by a native English speaker" to "so helpful I have to tweet about it" where does it fall?

    I'm wondering because, in my experience, for a quality article, you have to pay around $10. I mean a researched, error-free, English article.

    I'd love to hear more about your content!

    -Brock
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by bmcgoff View Post

      Nest -

      Awesome thread (as if that needs to be said). I know you're on break... but something no one has asked: what's your content like? On a scale from "clearly not written written by a native English speaker" to "so helpful I have to tweet about it" where does it fall?

      I'm wondering because, in my experience, for a quality article, you have to pay around $10. I mean a researched, error-free, English article.

      I'd love to hear more about your content!

      -Brock
      Here's one of my old sites you can judge for yourself

      Ultrasound Technician
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      • Profile picture of the author bmcgoff
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Here's one of my old sites you can judge for yourself

        Ultrasound Technician
        Very generous...thanks. Looks like good content. I'll have to check out article authority.
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  • Profile picture of the author freeman84
    i think i know how you made your money, and you forgot to include forum posting, if you know what i mean.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by freeman84 View Post

      i think i know how you made your money, and you forgot to include forum posting, if you know what i mean.
      The adsense you see on the forum is not mine, nabble wants a certain amount of money a month to keep ads off your embed-able forum. So if you pay them you will have ad free forums ,it's not much something like 5 dollars I think. The forum had very few visits so I never paid to have the ads removed.
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      • Profile picture of the author dakar
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        The adsense you see on the forum is not mine, nabble wants a certain amount of money a month to keep ads off your embed-able forum. So if you pay them you will have ad free forums ,it's not much something like 5 dollars I think. The forum had very few visits so I never paid to have the ads removed.
        Hey Ernest. So you wouldn't say that the forum on your sites is a big part or your earnings, right? I just started creating a huge authority site using your long tail methods. But I'm not planning on adding a forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author dakar
      Originally Posted by axix245 View Post

      Amazingly man,I think your nice face very little competition that's why you making money.Otherwise it's very difficult to earn with adsence without search engine ranking...

      That's precisely the point he's trying to make. His long tail keywords are so unique that they don't have much competition.
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    Google is not the only traffic source, other sites can deliver traffic to any sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author abangiz
    I create a new blogger blog just to try out this method and I manage to get about 3-4 visitor from long-tail-questions-keyword

    but the visitors don't even read my articles. They just come to my blog and leave. Why is this happening?

    1. Because I don't have a domain name?
    2. Because my articles suck?
    3. The amount of articles in my blog is not enough?
    4. This normal and nothing to worry about?

    p/s: All contents/articles written by myself. I have no advertisment on my blog
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by abangiz View Post

      I create a new blogger blog just to try out this method and I manage to get about 3-4 visitor from long-tail-questions-keyword

      but the visitors don't even read my articles. They just come to my blog and leave. Why is this happening?

      1. Because I don't have a domain name?
      2. Because my articles suck?
      3. The amount of articles in my blog is not enough?
      4. This normal and nothing to worry about?

      p/s: All contents/articles written by myself. I have no advertisment on my blog
      How many article are on your site?

      When I look at my Google analytic I see plenty of visits that last 0 seconds, yet time on site was 2 minutes with less than 65 percent bounce rate for all my sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author abangiz
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        How many article are on your site?

        When I look at my Google analytic I see plenty of visits that last 0 seconds, yet time on site was 2 minutes with less than 65 percent bounce rate for all my sites.
        I have 16 articles on my blog. the bounce rate is 100% :p
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by abangiz View Post

          I have 16 articles on my blog. the bounce rate is 100% :p
          Sorry almost missed this, I'm not really sure as to why people seem to be leaving your site so fast, what is the blog about.
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  • Profile picture of the author SamDermot
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    Thanks for sharing your earning point.

    I would like to know that some people say that Blogger.com is less SEO optimized, how do you overcome this?
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  • Profile picture of the author domainarama
    some people say that Blogger.com is less SEO optimized
    I wouldn't listen to those 'some people' if I were you. A particular website is as SEO optimized as its webmaster makes it. Blogspot blogs can rise or fall in rankings as much as the webmaster knows how.

    Blogger has its strengths and WP has its strengths. One of the strengths of Blogger is that it is owned by Google and if you do as Google wants you to do Google will reward you. One of the things Blogger leads you to do is less. Unlike WP, you can't buy an endless array of plugins that do this and that to your website. That means Blogger/Google is telling you that you can do less to your blog and still get good rankings IF YOUR BLOG HAS GOOD CONTENT.

    Another positive for Blogger is that it automatically sets up your website to be mobile friendly. No extra plugins or other things to buy. Of course, that doesn't mean diddly if your content is weak.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    If your interested in blogger seo here is a couple a good sites that will teach you everything.

    Blogger Widgets

    the original Blogger Tips and Tricks

    For anyone who hates those ugly blogger templates get better ones here.

    Premium Blogger Templates|Blogspot Themes

    The only thing is if you want to change the navigation menu , you need to edit the html of the template.

    The biggest difference between blogger and wordpress, is with blogger you have to take a more hands on approach instead using plug-ins. The end result is a fully customized blog unlike any other.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    ATTENTION! ATTENTION! ATTENTION!

    I want you guys to understand that there is room for failure with this method as with any new or old method that comes out. I urge you to strive to make good sites, offer something of real value, find a niche that you like and really dig in, and write about every single thing you can about that particle topic, you will have a better chance a success if you follow those principles vs following my methods or any techniques that pop up on the forum.

    I offer my old ultrasound technician site as example, please look it over. Now I'm not saying ti's the best site in the world but you can tell that I cared about it at one time.

    I had to embed each of these vids 1 by 1 , not to mention fine out how to make them look kinda cool and rotate and all that.

    Ultrasound Technician: Ultrasound Video's

    This is a nabble forum that can be embedded onto a stand alone/static page.
    Ultrasound Technician: Forum

    In order to trying jump start the forum all post threads,user id's were made by me, not my visitors.

    Even my contact page had content
    Ultrasound Technician: Contact Us

    About Us
    Ultrasound Technician: About Us

    There is even a jobs widget where it says popular-categories-jobs

    I say all that to say this, I really care about this site because I felt as if it was an extension of myself, it was my creation. You should be proud of the sites you make, I mean don't you want to show your family your site and have them be like , oh wow that really nice site, or do you want to make some crap site with ugly black and green theme so people will click on the ads and leave fast.


    This is why Google is cracking down on us so hard because we don't care about what we make, we only care about how much money we make. If you make a good site you will automatically make money.

    Also notice very few of my article were super long tail but this was my highest earning site, and if I hadn't been foolish enough to use crap links I could be earning a couple grand right now, because all my would be competition is gone.


    This is what I am trying to say, while all the other imer's who targeted ultrasound technician stopped at just a few article, I want on to talk about plenty of other subjects.

    Also this one small thing that worried me, most of the top spots were taken by crappy mfa site will tons of links. Which meant visitors rally couldn't get real information on ultrasound technicians. I remember getting e-mail from young girls still in high school asking me how to become a ultrasound tech, or how could that contact one etc, and than it hit me that most of these visitors were just children who are looking for some direction in how to follow their goals of becoming a ultrasound tech, and all they have to learn from are the greedy marketers who only care about ctr.

    This is a business , your visitors are like customers, treat them well and they'll not only come back but will tell other's about your site and probably bookmark or link to you.


    I didn't even mean to gone on for that long sorry.

    After saying all that I really have to do something that I been neglecting to do for a while now, something really important to my thought process...and that's play left 4 dead lol , nothing like killing zombies to clear your mind. Its good to take a break from all this online stuff and just think ,ya know.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonB
    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

    ween 80 and 125 visitors a day yet they all make 100.00 to 150.00 a month.

    I only backlink the homepage using article marketing ,social bookmarks, forum profiles etc.
    Do you outsource this? If so, who do you use?

    Can you tell us your techniques with this as well?

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
      Also this one small thing that worried me, most of the top spots were taken by crappy mfa site will tons of links. Which meant visitors rally couldn't get real information on ultrasound technicians. I remember getting e-mail from young girls still in high school asking me how to become a ultrasound tech, or how could that contact one etc, and than it hit me that most of these visitors were just children who are looking for some direction in how to follow their goals of becoming a ultrasound tech, and all they have to learn from are the greedy marketers who only care about ctr.
      This is pure gold! This is what Google is working toward even with the imperfect results of this latest update. It won't be their last. I quit looking at Google as the enemy, but as long as they're responsible for 70% of the search traffic, it's better to go with the flow than constantly swim upstream.

      Everything changes when you look at these searches as real people with real problems they're looking to solve. Help them do that, and you'll be rewarded with a top spot in the search results and the money will follow.

      Thanks again for helping me (us) look at this thing a little different.
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  • Profile picture of the author SomedayMaybe
    I've always written as though my family and friends might one day stumble across the content looking for answers, and so I'm determined that the content supplies them. My reward for this was for my main earner to get a penguin kick for it's best keyword down from number five on page one to somewhere at the top of page ten. I only ever built about three backlinks to that site - one was a YouTube video and the others were guest posts. The first page position it once occupied is now filled with an Amazon autoblog, with no information posts at all.

    I'll continue to write and build sites the same way I've always done, and the same way that Google claims to want them. I'm not convinced that these claims are true though.
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  • Profile picture of the author dc53123
    This is great information, thank you! I have an outline I'm working on that I want to run by you because I've tried some of this and don't seem to get the same results as the rest of you. Want to find out what I'm doing wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
    thanks for simplyhired widget and the nabble forum.

    i have started my website with your method, hope it can be useful for others.

    how do you make the forum showed without sidebar?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by ceilbleu View Post

      thanks for simplyhired widget and the nabble forum.

      i have started my website with your method, hope it can be useful for others.

      how do you make the forum showed without sidebar?
      I have to reeducate myself on all the technical parts of blogger, even I forget how I did that.
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  • Profile picture of the author WhosGotMoves
    I decided to put nest28's method into practice and see what kinda results I can get with a site that's performing lower than average. The site is a MFA niche site built using Wordpress on the CTR Theme.

    Currently it's only bringing in around $20-30 per month so I'm hoping that adding about 15 more articles and switching over to the Blogger platform will show some improvement in all areas.

    FYI your ultrasound sample site is down and returning a 404 error.

    Thanks for all the great info and for sharing what works for you. I'll try to come back in a few weeks with my results and findings.
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  • Profile picture of the author WhosGotMoves
    Anyone else out there using blogger on a custom domain with much success instead of opting for wordpress or another platform? The concept of using Google's own blogging platform to rank well in their search engine makes a ton of sense, but how many people have seen success with it?
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves View Post

      I decided to put nest28's method into practice and see what kinda results I can get with a site that's performing lower than average. The site is a MFA niche site built using Wordpress on the CTR Theme.

      Currently it's only bringing in around $20-30 per month so I'm hoping that adding about 15 more articles and switching over to the Blogger platform will show some improvement in all areas.

      FYI your ultrasound sample site is down and returning a 404 error.

      Thanks for all the great info and for sharing what works for you. I'll try to come back in a few weeks with my results and findings.
      Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves View Post

      Anyone else out there using blogger on a custom domain with much success instead of opting for wordpress or another platform? The concept of using Google's own blogging platform to rank well in their search engine makes a ton of sense, but how many people have seen success with it?
      Switching from self hosted Wordpress to Blogger has nothing to do with SEO, there's no secret magic trick that Blogger does for your site.

      I have both Blogger & self hosted Wordpress sites, I've had both for a few years, so I'm not blowing smoke when I say, a blogging platform doesn't have anything to do with SEO.

      BTW, dropping that $20-30 per month site for Blogger is a shot in the foot. If you have a site that earns $20-30 per month that same site can earn a lot more, without changing blog platforms.
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    • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
      Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves View Post

      Anyone else out there using blogger on a custom domain with much success instead of opting for wordpress or another platform? The concept of using Google's own blogging platform to rank well in their search engine makes a ton of sense, but how many people have seen success with it?
      I JUST started using the methods he described (to the best of my understanding). So far, they are showing signs of success. I have had clicks, and I am getting my little bit of traffic from odd longtail keywords that I would have never thought of myself. Also, the articles are showing up in a Google search fast.

      I expect it to take time, and I haven't even gotten 100 articles up yet (I will soon), but it seems to be working exactly the way he said.

      Yesterday, I took some time to create my own blogger theme with Artisteer. I like the look of my own theme much better than any I found. Not sure how good it is as far as SEO.

      Also, I am using Dragon Naturally Speaking to "write" my articles. I love that program! It takes hours off doing this by hand.
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      • Profile picture of the author mosthost
        Originally Posted by Carl Brown View Post

        Also, I am using Dragon Naturally Speaking to "write" my articles. I love that program! It takes hours off doing this by hand.
        Visitors are going to hate these. How are you going to get them to come back or recommend the site to friends?
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        • Profile picture of the author Chrisbroholm
          Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

          Visitors are going to hate these. How are you going to get them to come back or recommend the site to friends?
          Why are visitor's going to be hating articles that have dictated, rather than typed? The message is roughly the same, only I would probably prefer the dictated version since its more likely to sound natural and connect with the audience rather than a typed out post, in some cases anyway.
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          • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
            You can tweak the articles when you're done, but it works surprisingly well.

            My main point was that yes, with my limited experience, Nest's methods are working for me, exactly as he said they would.

            Beyond that, I was just sharing a couple tools I found really useful (Artisteer, and Dragon).
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by dakar View Post

              Hey Ernest. So you wouldn't say that the forum on your sites is a big part or your earnings, right? I just started creating a huge authority site using your long tail methods. But I'm not planning on adding a forum.
              The forum was a failure, I just wanted to offer visitors as much as possible.

              Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves View Post

              I decided to put nest28's method into practice and see what kinda results I can get with a site that's performing lower than average. The site is a MFA niche site built using Wordpress on the CTR Theme.

              Currently it's only bringing in around $20-30 per month so I'm hoping that adding about 15 more articles and switching over to the Blogger platform will show some improvement in all areas.

              FYI your ultrasound sample site is down and returning a 404 error.

              Thanks for all the great info and for sharing what works for you. I'll try to come back in a few weeks with my results and findings.
              I deleted all of my all sites, I thought this thread was done lol.

              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              Switching from self hosted Wordpress to Blogger has nothing to do with SEO, there's no secret magic trick that Blogger does for your site.

              I have both Blogger & self hosted Wordpress sites, I've had both for a few years, so I'm not blowing smoke when I say, a blogging platform doesn't have anything to do with SEO.

              BTW, dropping that $20-30 per month site for Blogger is a shot in the foot. If you have a site that earns $20-30 per month that same site can earn a lot more, without changing blog platforms.
              I agree it really doesn't matter which blogging platform you use.

              Originally Posted by ceilbleu View Post

              i think the clue is not what blog platform you used. it's about building very long tail "keyword". am i correct?
              Originally Posted by Carl Brown View Post

              I JUST started using the methods he described (to the best of my understanding). So far, they are showing signs of success. I have had clicks, and I am getting my little bit of traffic from odd longtail keywords that I would have never thought of myself. Also, the articles are showing up in a Google search fast.

              I expect it to take time, and I haven't even gotten 100 articles up yet (I will soon), but it seems to be working exactly the way he said.

              Yesterday, I took some time to create my own blogger theme with Artisteer. I like the look of my own theme much better than any I found. Not sure how good it is as far as SEO.

              Also, I am using Dragon Naturally Speaking to "write" my articles. I love that program! It takes hours off doing this by hand.
              Congrats Carl, hope things continue to go well for you.
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              • Profile picture of the author dakar
                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                The forum was a failure, I just wanted to offer visitors as much as possible.
                Thanks for your answer Nest
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  • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
    i think the clue is not what blog platform you used. it's about building very long tail "keyword". am i correct?
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  • Profile picture of the author aarthielumalai
    Hi, I'm doing the same with wordpress, but I'm stuck on what template is best. Mine is also a niche closely related to the health niche (not medicine thought), so what wordpress theme do you suggest? I am going to monetize the site with adsense. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rache
    I'm checking out Content Authority, thanks for mentioning. Are all your articles written by them?
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  • Profile picture of the author haydenguru
    Can you please create a blog on Lacoste Shoes prices.
    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author haydenguru
    I think it's a great post but we need more advanced knowledge and keyword research. I do not think everyone can do this.

    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

    Basically I build large sites using blogger custom domains. I don't use any kind of adsense ctr theme or any other commonly used templates. Here is a example of a template i might usefree blogger templates.

    I place one adsense block in the sidebar which is only shown on the homepage, the rest will be inside the content to the left. I used to make blog posts that were the exact match as the keyword I wanted to rank, for example if I wanted to rank for registered nurse, than the title of the post would be registered nurse. Now I look for niches that have potential to become large sites, so I stick to medical careers. The medical field pays well, normally I will see 2,3 and 4 dollar clicks. Each site only gets between 80 and 125 visitors a day yet they all make 100.00 to 150.00 a month.

    I only backlink the homepage using article marketing ,social bookmarks, forum profiles etc. I don't even try to rank these sites for any keyword, all my traffic come from long tail searches. I use google analytics to see how people got to my site than I use those search terms as post titles. For example , Do I have to be good at math to become a registered nurse, can I become a registered nurse with a g.e.d. , how do I become a registered nurse if I already have a degree in health science


    The only thing I do to make a site is search for a medical career, research what kind of degrees and training is required , think of a bunch of questions I can write about and that's it. Each site is 75 to 100 pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author sprucehill
    Nest, thank you so much for this extremely informative thread. You have been very kind and generous to share your experiences. I had dabbled a bit with Adsense in the past, but then went on to other things. You have inspired me to take another look, and create an informative site that will be of real benefit to visitors. I wish you much continued success.
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  • Profile picture of the author ALearner
    Hey Nest28,

    Great share and congrats on your success, keep it up.

    I just want to add my opinion here. Its always better to stick with "Wordpress" as compared to "Blogger"

    Although, blogger is owned by Google, it has its limitations. For instance, you can't sell your website (legally).The content is yours but the hosting is provided by Google so nothing is in your hands as far as tweaking etc. is concerned.

    I had a bad experience with blogger, some of my old sites are still on blogger and now I badly want to move/migrate them to wordpress (Its a tedious task) to make them more flexible in terms of providing value to my visitors and making money as well.

    Anyways, nest28 you did a fabulous job by providing detailed information.

    All the best.
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    • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
      Originally Posted by ALearner View Post

      Hey Nest28,
      Although, blogger is owned by Google, it has its limitations. For instance, you can't sell your website (legally).The content is yours but the hosting is provided by Google so nothing is in your hands as far as tweaking etc. is concerned.
      You can sell it, Google just don't like selling the site and then charging a monthly fee for the hosting, but there are loads of blogger blogs that have sold for good money. Their TOS states not to resell the service.. Why would you want to sell a site that banks anyway?

      Originally Posted by ALearner View Post

      I badly want to move/migrate them to wordpress (Its a tedious task)
      Migrating is easy, all you need to do is;

      1, Reset the DNS and update nameservers, install wordpress
      2, Set your permalinks to /%year%/%monthnum%/%postname%.html
      3. Import you blog - Tools -> Import-> Blogger Tools - after reverting to old blogger domain
      4, Create a file in the root directory called fix.php and add the code below;

      PHP Code:
      <?php
      require_once('wp-load.php');
       = (
      "SELECT post_id, meta_value FROM  WHERE meta_key = 'blogger_permalink'");
      ();
      foreach ( as ){
       = 
      explode("/",);
       = 
      explode(".",);
      (
      "UPDATE  SET post_name ='" .  . "' WHERE ID = ");
      ();
      }
      echo 
      "DONE";
      ?>
      5, Run example.com/fix.php in your browser

      That's it, for images you can use a plugin to cache the images and save them locally on the server and with feedburner just redirect your feed.
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    • Profile picture of the author chestmary
      Originally Posted by bfbizblogspot View Post

      If this is true, why the hell would you tell everyone??
      Read the thread - your same question, asked in the same way is covered early.
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  • Profile picture of the author ALearner
    dmtaylor247,

    Thanks for the info.

    I want to sell a website because it can give 10x to 15x more "at-once", so why wait 10 to 15 months to get the money, why not sell it and make more websites to do the same

    I appreciate the code you provided for migration, I'll give it a try.
    Do you think the SEO aspects (SERP positions etc) will remain stand after moving to wordpress? For instance, if traffic is coming for a keyword "blue widget" to this URL:

    http://hotbluewidgets.blogspot.com/y...e-widgets.html

    it will automatically be redirected to:

    http://hotbluewidgets.com/year/month/cool-blue-widgets

    and when some one searches the term "blue widgets" following URL will show up in the SERP,

    http://hotbluewidgets.com/year/month/cool-blue-widgets (assuming this post ranks for the keyword "blue widgets" )

    What do you say?

    For the selling of blogger blog, are you suggesting that we can sell the "hotbludwidgets.blogspot.com" website

    OR,

    you said that we can sell it after migrating it to:

    www.hotbluewidgets.com

    Please clarify.

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
    The script is a fix not a redirect. It will format your urls exactly as they were in blogger, including the html on the end even though your pages will be php, however any new urls will be formatted like / on the end. The only issue you will have is losing the archive pages. If the blogger site is developed with pr then most of it sits on these internal pages. I would suggest removing any archive links from the homepage, let Google recache the site and then move it. Google takes to these changes alot better now than it did 2 years ago. You might actually see a nice boost in rankings after a migration. Just be sure to noindex your tag pages to give you that extra pr boost and if you used labels for categories on blogger then get a tags to categories plugin to convert them.

    In terms of domains, yes you will need to get your own to sell it. If you are on a blogger domain it will cause havoc when migrating, I'm now guessing this is what you have and that's why it's an issue? I would never recommend using a blogspot domain unless you want to go after a difficult keyword where your competition has got loads of domain authority.
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  • Profile picture of the author ALearner
    You are absolutely right here. I have established blogspot.com domains and want to migrate them to wordpress.

    Thanks for your quick reply.
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    • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
      Originally Posted by ALearner View Post

      You are absolutely right here. I have established blogspot.com domains and want to migrate them to wordpress.

      Thanks for your quick reply.
      Yeah this is a real pain. You will need to buy a domain with hosting and then go through the process above. Once it's complete you will need to use a Js redirect on all the blogspot posts and pages for human visitors and then a meta refresh with canonical tags for search engines. There is a plugin that can do it for you here;

      WordPress › Blogger To WordPress Redirection « WordPress Plugins

      There was some really good guides about for migrating blogger locally on your own computer but it's quite complicated and takes a bit of time to set up. If your not confident with managing Apache then this might be too much.
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  • Profile picture of the author domainarama
    It's very simple to migrate from Blogger to WP. Save the contents on Blogger. Set up your website on WP. Go to Tools. Click Import. Choose Blogger to import. Click, you're done.
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  • Profile picture of the author anarki450
    im very sure this works.
    back when I was I uni (2008) I made a personal blog with blogger just posting random stuff (not custom domain). I didn't know about keywords and backlinks what so ever. I posted around 150 random stuff, mostly videos, photos and the `articles` are shorter than a tweet. I haven't posted anything for 2 years, its somehow become pr4, and that blog still getting arounfpd 100 visits daily. unfortunately, I posted craps and non monetizable stuff, I got very low ctr, and have to reapply adsense after I left australia. anyway, just want to let everyone know this will work if did correctly, easiest method among what I learnt so far
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  • Profile picture of the author mali80
    Great post,
    thanks for sharing your insight on how you are creating success,
    Congrats on your accomplishments
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  • Profile picture of the author KimboJim
    You know, I used to believe that Wordpress was more optimized and better, but then I compared three blogs I had. Two were Blogger and the other was Wordpress. They were in similar niches, and had about the same amount of articles (sort of). The two Blogger blogs had 10 posts each, so a total of 20, and the Wordpress one had 20.

    The Blogger websites were free, so they were on a subdomain, while the Wordpress one was my own custom domain.

    The Blogger blogs both had just 1 backlink each. I used a Yahoo Answers backlink for both of them. I just started out with SEO, and I didn't really concentrate on the blogs.

    The Wordpress one, on the other hand, had links from Ezine, Hubpages, Yahoo Answers and many other places.

    Keep in mind that all three in about the same niche.

    My two Blogger blogs always get more traffic than my Wordpress one. They also earn more AdSense money.

    My Wordpress blog even had content that was better written because I had improved my writing skill (I have been writing professionally since 2007. The Blogger blogs started in 2009 and the Wordpress one in 2011).

    I think Blogger, even the free one, is just better. I also found that I never had to go around looking for plugins, changing the themes, customize the HTML/CSS or anything else with Blogger. Sure, it had its problems, but I felt like I was actually blogging.

    With Wordpress, I feel like I am always trying to customize it to get it right.

    To the OP: DBZ is great, but I would take Utena, Death Note or Eva over it any day. But we can probably both agree that it beats out Naruto.
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  • Profile picture of the author ihasdiggs
    Thanks for sharing and this really works well
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  • Profile picture of the author MarinaM
    How to monetize these blogger blogs if adsense will ban you?
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  • Profile picture of the author mejohn
    Just wondering: You talk about the income from you sites in the past tense & talk about the unnatural links warning from Google. Have your sites been hit with a penalty now? Do you still earn money from them, or are you having to start from scratch like many of us? My Adsense income has now dropped to about $100 per month, and that comes from Yahoo & Bing traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by mejohn View Post

      Just wondering: You talk about the income from you sites in the past tense & talk about the unnatural links warning from Google. Have your sites been hit with a penalty now? Do you still earn money from them, or are you having to start from scratch like many of us? My Adsense income has now dropped to about $100 per month, and that comes from Yahoo & Bing traffic.
      All sites were hit with the unnatural links penalty, my adsense income is 0. I'm investing all my time and money into making one large 1,000 page site.


      This site will be a template for my next site, after I see how well this site does I plan on building a site with thousands of pages, probably on wordpress this time.
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      • Profile picture of the author JasonB
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        All sites were hit with the unnatural links penalty, my adsense income is 0. I'm investing all my time and money into making one large 1,000 page site.


        This site will be a template for my next site, after I see how well this site does I plan on building a site with thousands of pages, probably on wordpress this time.
        WOW~

        Now that just sucks ACE, BIG TIME...

        Nothing like having to start over from scratch..

        JB
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      • Profile picture of the author Builder154
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        All sites were hit with the unnatural links penalty, my adsense income is 0. I'm investing all my time and money into making one large 1,000 page site.


        This site will be a template for my next site, after I see how well this site does I plan on building a site with thousands of pages, probably on wordpress this time.
        What did you do when your income went to 0? Do you have savings to live off? Or did you have to get another job?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by Builder154 View Post

          What did you do when your income went to 0? Do you have savings to live off? Or did you have to get another job?
          Well there was nothing I could do, between having save some money, and having a few other income sources offline, I came out ok.

          Getting banned from adsense, losing ranking , and being penalized is all apart of internet marketing, I just try my best to follow the rules so none of those things happen again.
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      • Profile picture of the author PhilJensen
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        All sites were hit with the unnatural links penalty, my adsense income is 0. I'm investing all my time and money into making one large 1,000 page site.


        This site will be a template for my next site, after I see how well this site does I plan on building a site with thousands of pages, probably on wordpress this time.
        Wow...sorry to hear....
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by PhilJensen View Post

          Wow...sorry to hear....
          Getting that penalty changed my whole way of doing things for the better, so I'm kind of glad it happened now rather than later.
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          • Profile picture of the author PhilJensen
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            Getting that penalty changed my whole way of doing things for the better, so I'm kind of glad it happened now rather than later.
            Great attitude!! That's a real entrepreneur....maintaining perspective and keeping optimistic.

            Good luck.

            Phil
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          • Profile picture of the author computermesh
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            Getting that penalty changed my whole way of doing things for the better, so I'm kind of glad it happened now rather than later.
            Now THAT is the way to be. Everything happens for a reason man. You just have to knuckle down and get back to business. Learn from the mistakes. And make more bank than ever before. Oh. Say NO to Back Links.
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by PhilJensen View Post

              Great attitude!! That's a real entrepreneur....maintaining perspective and keeping optimistic.

              Good luck.

              Phil
              Thank you, I wish you the best with your own online endeavors as well.

              Originally Posted by JasonB View Post

              So, do you still make a full time income from adsense? Or a part time income working full time?
              Nope, earning a big fat zero, because of my past mistakes.

              Originally Posted by computermesh View Post

              Now THAT is the way to be. Everything happens for a reason man. You just have to knuckle down and get back to business. Learn from the mistakes. And make more bank than ever before. Oh. Say NO to Back Links.
              Yes, although I'm starting to see that building high quality links, with varied anchor text,from various sources, at a slow rate would be a good idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adevictus
    So you plan on creating another site in the similar format?
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    It's all about the money...

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  • Profile picture of the author imlogic
    anyone using adsense is crazy... especially on more than one site. You essentially give away your entire network and seo strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author aquarious44
    Varied and quality links are always the best way to go to minimize risk of penalty.
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  • Profile picture of the author imlogic
    Dont use blogger because they host it and they see where the traffic comes from... if all your traffic is coming from the search engines and not from other sites recommending your site or people typing it in on their browser then it's a made for search engine site.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by imlogic View Post

      Dont use blogger because they host it and they see where the traffic comes from... if all your traffic is coming from the search engines and not from other sites recommending your site or people typing it in on their browser then it's a made for search engine site.
      I really can't say I agree with you, in time a large authority site would get traffic/links form others sites in addition to search engine traffic.

      Either way I've never heard of someone being penalized for getting to much search engine traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hasanabd
    Oh bro 5000$ ! This is whay google makes millions from adsense
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonB
    So, do you still make a full time income from adsense? Or a part time income working full time?
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
    I see sooooo many people on this forum that are still stuck on backlinking. When Google sends them a message about "Unnatural Links" and the ranking drops, they will lose all traffic and will have to start from scratch again. And a lot of them are still using spammy links like profile links and blog comments.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by moneymoguls View Post

      I see sooooo many people on this forum that are still stuck on backlinking. When Google sends them a message about "Unnatural Links" and the ranking drops, they will lose all traffic and will have to start from scratch again. And a lot of them are still using spammy links like profile links and blog comments.
      Not everybody learns their lessons well, it only took being penalized once for me to stop using those spammy backlinking methods.
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      • Profile picture of the author mikefrommaine
        I agree. The whole backlink game is changing. I miss using a few BMR posts to move up sites :-)

        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Not everybody learns their lessons well, it only took being penalized once for me to stop using those spammy backlinking methods.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by mikejmu View Post

          I agree. The whole backlink game is changing. I miss using a few BMR posts to move up sites :-)
          Tell me about it, I used bmr on just one of my sites, and it took my income from 100, to 240, in just a month, all keywords that were in the mid twenties drop down to the teens, and all the keywords that were in the teens went to first page.


          I actually made it into bmr the day before they stop taking on customers, as soon as I saw those results, I had planned on using bmr on all my sites, but soon after seeing these results my site drop off the face of the earth, I received a unnatural links notice and my income drop down from 2,100 a month to it's current earning of 0.


          I got rid of all my backlinking software, except seo link robot, I used that recently to create a few social bookmarks.
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        • Profile picture of the author PhilJensen
          Originally Posted by mikejmu View Post

          I agree. The whole backlink game is changing. I miss using a few BMR posts to move up sites :-)
          Ya, I miss BMR rank too, however when something seems to good to be true, it probably is, or at least doesn't last that long.

          Phil
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    • Profile picture of the author lddawg
      Originally Posted by moneymoguls View Post

      I see sooooo many people on this forum that are still stuck on backlinking. When Google sends them a message about "Unnatural Links" and the ranking drops, they will lose all traffic and will have to start from scratch again. And a lot of them are still using spammy links like profile links and blog comments.
      Interesting...What do you do in place of backlinking then?
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by lddawg View Post

        Interesting...What do you do in place of backlinking then?
        Well, I've mostly been focus on, on site seo, next week I'll start backlinking, and making facebook fan page/twitter account and all that good stuff.
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        • Profile picture of the author lddawg
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          Well, I've mostly been focus on, on site seo, next week I'll start backlinking, and making facebook fan page/twitter account and all that good stuff.
          Gotcha, seriously thank you for this thread and your willingness to answer all our questions. You deserve success!! I wish you the best!
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by Chambers View Post

            Good thread man, sorry to hear about your loss on the Adsense websites, but with your attitude you will recover fast.

            My business revenue got crushed, I'm adapting I think building these large authority websites is the wave of the future making money with Adsense.

            I own SEO link robot lol never use it though...
            When you think about it, large sites is a old notion, all these monster sites online were created 10 years ago. So there proof bigger is in deed better.

            Originally Posted by PhilJensen View Post

            Ya, I miss BMR rank too, however when something seems to good to be true, it probably is, or at least doesn't last that long.

            Phil
            I just wish I stepped on board a year ago, I would have been making twice my old income. Than again I wish I was smart enough not to use services like that at all.
            Originally Posted by dakar View Post

            Good explanation (as usual). I don't know if I told you, but I also started building an authority site (about 2 months ago). However, I hadn't written very many articles until I read your post. Three weeks after writing 20 articles, I'm starting to see keywords (long tail) pop up in my webmaster tools and analytics. Still not getting but 1 or 2 visits a day though.


            I'm going to try and download that program and maybe I'll follow your same initial linking strategy. Thanks Ernest
            I'm experiencing low traffic right now also, you need to backlink, but be extremely careful what type of links you use, or get traffic from social media.

            I can't tell you how to do that yet, because I'm still working on it myself. But having good on-site seo, themed pages, internal links,silo structure etc is the way to go.

            Originally Posted by lddawg View Post

            Gotcha, seriously thank you for this thread and your willingness to answer all our questions. You deserve success!! I wish you the best!
            You welcome and the same to you, the fact of the matter is , all these questions help me to evolve as a marketer, so I should be thanking all of you.
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      • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
        I do not do any link building now. It's too risky. I'm just writing interesting articles on my topics. I'm almost 100% sure, I can get large amounts of traffic with a large blog. I will post updates on this forum.

        I have a blog that I created over 6 years ago (money-moguls.com) and just wrote articles. It has 100 articles. It was a PR5 at one time and was getting 1000 visitors per day. I did zero backlinking back then. Then I took the advice of some SEO gurus and added some backlinks. I also put TextLink Ads on it. Shortly after that it lost 50% of its traffic. I then removed the Textlink Ads.

        Today it gets about 400 visitors per day. I have done nothing to it for several years. Panda had no effect on its traffic. It has been getting the same amount of traffic for years.

        Originally Posted by lddawg View Post

        Interesting...What do you do in place of backlinking then?
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        • Profile picture of the author dakar
          Originally Posted by moneymoguls View Post

          I do not do any link building now. It's too risky. I'm just writing interesting articles on my topics. I'm almost 100% sure, I can get large amounts of traffic with a large blog. I will post updates on this forum.

          I have a blog that I created over 6 years ago (money-moguls.com) and just wrote articles. It has 100 articles. It was a PR5 at one time and was getting 1000 visitors per day. I did zero backlinking back then. Then I took the advice of some SEO gurus and added some backlinks. I also put TextLink Ads on it. Shortly after that it lost 50% of its traffic. I then removed the Textlink Ads.

          Today it gets about 400 visitors per day. I have done nothing to it for several years. Panda had no effect on its traffic. It has been getting the same amount of traffic for years.
          Nice site. Thanks for sharing. I noticed that your articles are about 250 words in length. Did you write them all yourself?
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          • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
            Originally Posted by dakar View Post

            Nice site. Thanks for sharing. I noticed that your articles are about 250 words in length. Did you write them all yourself?
            Yes, I wrote 90% of all the articles. Some are 400-500 words.
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        • Profile picture of the author lddawg
          Originally Posted by moneymoguls View Post

          I do not do any link building now. It's too risky. I'm just writing interesting articles on my topics. I'm almost 100% sure, I can get large amounts of traffic with a large blog. I will post updates on this forum.

          I have a blog that I created over 6 years ago (money-moguls.com) and just wrote articles. It has 100 articles. It was a PR5 at one time and was getting 1000 visitors per day. I did zero backlinking back then. Then I took the advice of some SEO gurus and added some backlinks. I also put TextLink Ads on it. Shortly after that it lost 50% of its traffic. I then removed the Textlink Ads.

          Today it gets about 400 visitors per day. I have done nothing to it for several years. Panda had no effect on its traffic. It has been getting the same amount of traffic for years.
          Thanks a ton for your quick reply. Thats very interesting news and new to me. So if I understand, you just added content to your blog. You did not submit these articles to any article sites like ezines or sites like hubpages etc.? I agree, textlink ads are a bad idea.
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          • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
            Originally Posted by lddawg View Post

            Thanks a ton for your quick reply. Thats very interesting news and new to me. So if I understand, you just added content to your blog. You did not submit these articles to any article sites like ezines or sites like hubpages etc.? I agree, textlink ads are a bad idea.
            You are correct. When I started Money Moguls, I just wrote a few articles per week and that's it. No backlinking. At one point I was getting 1200 -1400 visitors per day.

            TextLink ads killed it. Google hates TextLink ads.

            This blog does not rank high for any keywords but still gets some decent traffic.
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            • Profile picture of the author thatkeywordguy
              Originally Posted by moneymoguls View Post


              TextLink ads killed it. Google hates TextLink ads.
              bummer ...
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  • Profile picture of the author dakar
    Nest:

    I don't know much about Seo Link Robot, but how come you trust it enough to use it, over any other linking method?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by dakar View Post

      Nest:

      I don't know much about Seo Link Robot, but how come you trust it enough to use it, over any other linking method?
      Just because it's there lol, all my other software used article marketing,profile links and other really spammy link types. Basically the type of software that builds links in large volumes.

      I only made about 9 social bookmarks using seo link robot last week, so I don't think I'll receive a penalty for that


      I would never mass produce backlinks, but in the next 3 months I do plan on building some links, now will I build a couple thousand links over the course of the next 3 months, of course not, but I will build a couple hundred, using varied anchor text, from as many different sources as possible. The lack of traffic is a direct result of not backlinking at all.

      Now don't get me wrong I don't plan on backlinking to my site for long, I do however want to start ranking in the top 100 for some of my keywords.


      When my regular keywords start to rank, my long tail traffic will automatically increase. Like I said I just want to get the ball rolling. I want to let Google know, hey this sites is about blue widgets, please rank me for blue widgets lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author lddawg
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Just because it's there lol, all my other software used article marketing,profile links and other really spammy link types. Basically the type of software that builds links in large volumes.

        I only made about 9 social bookmarks using seo link robot last week, so I don't think I'll receive a penalty for that


        I would never mass produce backlinks, but in the next 3 months I do plan on building some links, now will I build a couple thousand links over the course of the next 3 months, of course not, but I will build a couple hundred, using varied anchor text, from as many different sources as possible. The lack of traffic is a direct result of not backlinking at all.

        Now don't get me wrong I don't plan on backlinking to my site for long, I do however want to start ranking in the top 100 for some of my keywords.


        When my regular keywords start to rank, my long tail traffic will automatically increase. Like I said I just want to get the ball rolling. I want to let Google know, hey this sites is about blue widgets, please rank me for blue widgets lol.
        Man you are the bomb for this thread. I am sorry to hear about getting zapped to but I know you will kick but again soon!

        quick question, What would you do if you're not backlinking then? in otherwords, what other strategies would work just as well?
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      • Profile picture of the author dakar
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Just because it's there lol, all my other software used article marketing,profile links and other really spammy link types. Basically the type of software that builds links in large volumes.

        I only made about 9 social bookmarks using seo link robot last week, so I don't think I'll receive a penalty for that


        I would never mass produce backlinks, but in the next 3 months I do plan on building some links, now will I build a couple thousand links over the course of the next 3 months, of course not, but I will build a couple hundred, using varied anchor text, from as many different sources as possible. The lack of traffic is a direct result of not backlinking at all.

        Now don't get me wrong I don't plan on backlinking to my site for long, I do however want to start ranking in the top 100 for some of my keywords.


        When my regular keywords start to rank, my long tail traffic will automatically increase. Like I said I just want to get the ball rolling. I want to let Google know, hey this sites is about blue widgets, please rank me for blue widgets lol.
        Good explanation (as usual). I don't know if I told you, but I also started building an authority site (about 2 months ago). However, I hadn't written very many articles until I read your post. Three weeks after writing 20 articles, I'm starting to see keywords (long tail) pop up in my webmaster tools and analytics. Still not getting but 1 or 2 visits a day though.


        I'm going to try and download that program and maybe I'll follow your same initial linking strategy. Thanks Ernest
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  • Profile picture of the author Chambers
    Good thread man, sorry to hear about your loss on the Adsense websites, but with your attitude you will recover fast.

    My business revenue got crushed, I'm adapting I think building these large authority websites is the wave of the future making money with Adsense.

    I own SEO link robot lol never use it though...
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  • Profile picture of the author Converting
    Wow, sorry to hear that your sites got dropped. That was a great share though to read. I thoroughly enjoyed the entire thread! Thanks for the share!
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  • Profile picture of the author krestup
    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

    Basically I build large sites using blogger custom domains. I don't use any kind of adsense ctr theme or any other commonly used templates. Here is a example of a template i might usefree blogger templates.

    I place one adsense block in the sidebar which is only shown on the homepage, the rest will be inside the content to the left. I used to make blog posts that were the exact match as the keyword I wanted to rank, for example if I wanted to rank for registered nurse, than the title of the post would be registered nurse. Now I look for niches that have potential to become large sites, so I stick to medical careers. The medical field pays well, normally I will see 2,3 and 4 dollar clicks. Each site only gets between 80 and 125 visitors a day yet they all make 100.00 to 150.00 a month.

    I only backlink the homepage using article marketing ,social bookmarks, forum profiles etc. I don't even try to rank these sites for any keyword, all my traffic come from long tail searches. I use google analytics to see how people got to my site than I use those search terms as post titles. For example , Do I have to be good at math to become a registered nurse, can I become a registered nurse with a g.e.d. , how do I become a registered nurse if I already have a degree in health science


    The only thing I do to make a site is search for a medical career, research what kind of degrees and training is required , think of a bunch of questions I can write about and that's it. Each site is 75 to 100 pages.
    I believe it depends on the niche. I did a testing for my wordpress and blogger website i discovered my wordpress out rank my blogger website...
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  • Profile picture of the author Volux
    You've somewhat inspired me to try this.

    One question though..if you don't try to rank any specific keyword and you are just backlinking your main domain through the methods mentioned, it must take quite a while to actually get any traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author solidgoldextra
    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

    Basically I build large sites using blogger custom domains. I don't use any kind of adsense ctr theme or any other commonly used templates.
    Thank you nest28. Ingenious! Actually started considering doing the same thing myself a few days ago. What are the chances that someone else has already done it? Means that the concept works big time! I am starting a new project today based on this post of yours, combined with my ideas to really scale this out. Mega site? Think WPMU. Very good!! Thanks again. I don't think you've put yourself at a disadvantage at all by sharing this. Most people wont act on it anyway, so you're good!
    My appreciations!!
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by solidgoldextra View Post

      Thank you nest28. Ingenious! Actually started considering doing the same thing myself a few days ago. What are the chances that someone else has already done it? Means that the concept works big time! I am starting a new project today based on this post of yours, combined with my ideas to really scale this out. Mega site? Think WPMU. Very good!! Thanks again. I don't think you've put yourself at a disadvantage at all by sharing this. Most people wont act on it anyway, so you're good!
      My appreciations!!
      It does feel good when you see someone who has already done what your planning to do, and they were successful with it, good luck with your site, pm me if you have questions.
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  • Profile picture of the author iouri
    That is interesting I had never even thought of creating pages based on long tail search. I am building a lot of small sites in different niches and use small keywords in the title. Your post gives me a new possibility of choosing titles. May be I should change the strategy. But all seasoned IM keep talking about choosing keywords with at least 1000 searches, I am afraid long tail keywords mostly have a lot less or you don't pay any attention to searches number? Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author gapinfotech
    yes it is possible if you have many user on your site and if your SMO is strong so it is possible you can get earn money by Google absence
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  • Profile picture of the author shifat
    That sounds very interesting!I will look into it when i get back home,bookmarked.
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    • Profile picture of the author YorkieBoy
      Ernest, thank you for the time and effort you have put into this thread. Apart from being an inspiration, you also provide direction to such as myself who are relatively new to the game. This without doubt the first altruistic post I have come across

      Don't worry about the knockers, either they're the snake oil salesmen that are peddling the link building gigs etc, or they're too stubborn to admit that they could be wrong.

      All that Google are doing with their various updates is levelling the playing field for those such as yourself, who are prepared to put in the effort and provide a genuine service. Automation, particularly where link building is concerned, is never gonna beat honest hard work and I have no doubt that such fads as automated link wheel building will shortly be on the receiving end of future Google updates
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  • Profile picture of the author themesplice
    I doubt this strategy would work post penguin. Isn't it?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by themesplice View Post

      I doubt this strategy would work post penguin. Isn't it?
      Your advertising 10,000 links in your sig and asking if this method would work post penguin? There was never anything wrong wit the method, I made a mistake backlinking , that was my only mistake. I really can't see how a site wouldn't get long tail traffic, I have 4 throw away sites that are only 10 pages that get nothing but long traffic. Instead backlinking I would advise people simply promote there sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Your advertising 10,000 links in your sig and asking if this method would work post penguin? There was never anything wrong wit the method, I made a mistake backlinking , that was my only mistake. I really can't see how a site wouldn't get long tail traffic, I have 4 throw away sites that are only 10 pages that get nothing but long traffic. Instead backlinking I would advise people simply promote there sites.
        Kind of interesting, I have recently shifted gears to writing content focusing on long tail keywords and then implementing a minimal backlink strategy. This has been more of a test so far to get a good grasp on where pages end up landing in the SERP and so far have been quite impressed. I am planning on this week to do about 10 to 15 pages focused on a single over all topic but hitting different long tails within it, then some internal linking to see if it makes a difference.
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        • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
          Originally Posted by Nelapsi View Post

          Kind of interesting, I have recently shifted gears to writing content focusing on long tail keywords and then implementing a minimal backlink strategy. This has been more of a test so far to get a good grasp on where pages end up landing in the SERP and so far have been quite impressed. I am planning on this week to do about 10 to 15 pages focused on a single over all topic but hitting different long tails within it, then some internal linking to see if it makes a difference.
          I use to focus on Long Tail Marketing as well and have always had great success. Def worth the investment of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author nishainchn
    Good Content with related keywords is really works. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author SugarKisses
    Well thanks for sharing your method.
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  • Profile picture of the author Warock
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    It's possible from my experience. Blogger can make full time income as long as you work hard.
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  • Profile picture of the author wellm97
    How does it possible that without linkbuilding keywords will get ranked and anyone can earn through adsense!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author jovykhan
      Originally Posted by wellm97 View Post

      How does it possible that without linkbuilding keywords will get ranked and anyone can earn through adsense!!!
      He is not ranking on his money keywords but he gets long tails traffic instead. This where he earns from Adsense.
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      • Profile picture of the author manishw
        Thanks a lot Ernest for sharing your knowledge, experience and techniques with us. I just finished reading the whole thread(10 pages). Damn that was a lot of good info. If you are wondering it's my first post here, then yes I created this account to say thanks to you and become more active on WF. Occasionally I come here to get info but I guess I need to be more active so that I don't miss on threads like this. I was thinking of building my new site with different strategy and guess what I reached this thread(I don't remember how, but I am glad that I am here). Thanks a lot all the WF members
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by manishw View Post

          Thanks a lot Ernest for sharing your knowledge, experience and techniques with us. I just finished reading the whole thread(10 pages). Damn that was a lot of good info. If you are wondering it's my first post here, then yes I created this account to say thanks to you and become more active on WF. Occasionally I come here to get info but I guess I need to be more active so that I don't miss on threads like this. I was thinking of building my new site with different strategy and guess what I reached this thread(I don't remember how, but I am glad that I am here). Thanks a lot all the WF members
          I'm glad I could help, this thread was a lot of fun for me, it was my pleasure to help people learn more about this particular method. You don't always have to rank keywords, there are plenty of other methods out there, always go the road less traveled especially if your a IMer.


          Also a word of advice, don't get to caught up with being on this forum, learn what you can than bounce, or next thing you know you'll be talking about Magic Submitter and ranking small niche sites.
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          • Profile picture of the author jimnastics
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            Also a word of advice, don't get to caught up with being on this forum, learn what you can than bounce, or next thing you know you'll be talking about Magic Submitter and ranking small niche sites.
            lol so true!!! If there's one thing I've learnt this year, it's take the great free advice at WF and then get out of here.
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  • Profile picture of the author ridzaienz
    This is really a great thread..

    thanks for sharing your method and knowledge.
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  • Profile picture of the author pennyjmay
    Hello Ernest - I have been reading through your massive thread and I am wondering, do you still use blogger or do you use wordpress nowadays. I noticed you started over after a google shutdown... me also ....which way are you going...

    Anyone else want to comment on the WP or Blogger route? I have used both in the past but always felt it 'worrying' to have a website on a third party hosting account.

    Penny

    btw - I have sent you a PM as I have a couple of quick Qs which contain personal details.
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  • Profile picture of the author sparkah
    Actually... he's only partially right. You can make $35 per click under terms like

    "plastic surgery Beverly hills"

    Hospitals pay a LOT of money for traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Anton543
      Originally Posted by sparkah View Post

      Actually... he's only partially right. You can make $35 per click under terms like

      "plastic surgery Beverly hills"

      Hospitals pay a LOT of money for traffic.
      You may do so, but those people will only want their ads appearing on high quality sites and in regional localities.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by pennyjmay View Post

        Hello Ernest - I have been reading through your massive thread and I am wondering, do you still use blogger or do you use wordpress nowadays. I noticed you started over after a google shutdown... me also ....which way are you going...

        Anyone else want to comment on the WP or Blogger route? I have used both in the past but always felt it 'worrying' to have a website on a third party hosting account.

        Penny

        btw - I have sent you a PM as I have a couple of quick Qs which contain personal details.
        Hello Penny, I've already answered your pm but will also like to post a answer here so other can gain knowledge on the matter. I am currently using wordpress although I love blogger, there are more advantages with wordpress. Not to mention I own my website vs it being hosted on a third party site.
        Originally Posted by Anton543 View Post

        This is an awful strategy that comes across as 'made for adsense' and might work only temporarily.
        Please explain what part of this strategy is awful and would come across as MFA.

        All I said was to use Yahoo answers, Google analytic and forums like Indeed to see what people are saying about your keywords/niche than base your content on that info.

        So if I look at my Google analytic and I see that someone found my insurance site by typing in "what is the best way to get cheap car insurance for a 18yr" what is wrong with making content based on this phrase? Now I would have to see this same phrase or variations of it plenty of times before I have a article written, I would be stupid to write article based on every single long tail I see in analytic.

        I see noting wrong with providing answers to questions that people are looking for. If this type of method was awful and only worked on a temporary basis there would be no Yahoo answers,Wiki answers, ask.com etc.

        Even now I see long tail phrase on small niche sites that I have hosted on blogger, these sites have no more than 8 articles but I see plenty of long tail phrases.

        This method has also been endorsed by FraiserC the owner of Universe Today a website that get's more than 2 million visitors a month and make 20,000 a month from Adsense. Fraiser stated that he started to see a drastic increase in traffic once he made articles such as these:

        what is the biggest star in the universe?
        How hot is the sun?
        How far away is mars from earth?

        These will get you plenty of long tail traffic and at the same time your are providing information that your visitors are asking for.


        This is a hell of a lot better than making micro niche sites that offer little to no value or build a site around 1 high paying keyword and than trying to backlink your way to the top of the serps only to be penalized in the end.


        If anyone has any other methods I would love to hear them.

        Edit: Here is a great thread started by FraiserC.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...s-traffic.html
        I'm not a writer and my ideas/thoughts often times are lost in translation but Fraiser says everything I'm saying but he says it better lol. I love this thread he teaches you to focus on traffic, cut of the middle man which is rankings.
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        • Profile picture of the author remodeler
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          This method has also been endorsed by FraiserC the owner of Universe Today a website that get's more than 2 million visitors a month and make 20,000 a month from Adsense. Fraiser stated that he started to see a drastic increase in traffic once he made articles such as these:

          what is the biggest star in the universe?
          How hot is the sun?
          How far away is mars from earth?

          These will get you plenty of long tail traffic and at the same time your are providing information that your visitors are asking for.


          This is a hell of a lot better than making micro niche sites that offer little to no value or build a site around 1 high paying keyword and than trying to backlink your way to the top of the serps only to be penalized in the end.


          If anyone has any other methods I would love to hear them.

          Edit: Here is a great thread started by FraiserC.

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...s-traffic.html
          I'm not a writer and my ideas/thoughts often times are lost in translation but Fraiser says everything I'm saying but he says it better lol. I love this thread he teaches you to focus on traffic, cut of the middle man which is rankings.
          I would second that. I put his ideas into a new site last year and it has been more successful than I ever thought it would be. It's a solid strategy that doesn't leave you constantly worrying about the next big google update. Thing is...it's a long term plan that takes work, something that most people don't believe in or like to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anton543
    This is an awful strategy that comes across as 'made for adsense' and might work only temporarily.
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  • Profile picture of the author Make Money Ninja
    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

    Basically I build large sites using blogger custom domains. I don't use any kind of adsense ctr theme or any other commonly used templates. Here is a example of a template i might usefree blogger templates.

    I place one adsense block in the sidebar which is only shown on the homepage, the rest will be inside the content to the left. I used to make blog posts that were the exact match as the keyword I wanted to rank, for example if I wanted to rank for registered nurse, than the title of the post would be registered nurse. Now I look for niches that have potential to become large sites, so I stick to medical careers. The medical field pays well, normally I will see 2,3 and 4 dollar clicks. Each site only gets between 80 and 125 visitors a day yet they all make 100.00 to 150.00 a month.

    I only backlink the homepage using article marketing ,social bookmarks, forum profiles etc. I don't even try to rank these sites for any keyword, all my traffic come from long tail searches. I use google analytics to see how people got to my site than I use those search terms as post titles. For example , Do I have to be good at math to become a registered nurse, can I become a registered nurse with a g.e.d. , how do I become a registered nurse if I already have a degree in health science


    The only thing I do to make a site is search for a medical career, research what kind of degrees and training is required , think of a bunch of questions I can write about and that's it. Each site is 75 to 100 pages.
    This is basically what i do, although i make much smaller sites so i can target more EMD queries. Blogspot blogs seem to rank super easily.

    Also act as good "links" to your own domain money sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author domainarama
    Because nest28 has been a good guy and because his discussions on WF attract a great crowd, I will post the following information here for those who want to use it. I know nest28 doesn't do ordinary keywords, so he won't use this info. There are others who do keywords. Use or not use this info as you please. Oh, yes, it's free. And my ego can survive your rejection.

    How to get 3 and 4 word keywords (keyphrases?) for your posts.

    On FireFox, install the SEOquake toolbar.

    Write a post or call up an old post. In a tab, VIEW the post as it appears to a reader.

    While your post displays in a tab, go to the SEOquake toolbar for that post.

    On the far right hand side of the toolbar click the DENSITY choice. This will open a new tab containing statistics about the post in the first tab.

    In the new tab SEOquake will give you a lot of information. At the top of the righthand column it will display: 1-word keywords table
    2-word keywords table
    3-word keywords table
    4-word keywords table [these will be links in the new tab]

    If you want 4-word keywords (keyphrases?) click the 4-word keywords table link. You will be taken down the page where a list of 4-word keyphrases is presented, along with statistics showing how often each keyphrase appears on the page you chose.

    Many of the choices will be nonsense, which will be easy to ignore. Some of the choices will be winner 4-word key phrases. Use your judgement to pick the winner key phrases you want to copy and past as TAGS for your post on your WP blog. If you want 3-word, 2-word or 1-word keywords or phrases, they are there for your picking.

    nest28 uses long questions as his key phrases. Great. It obviously works. If there is still room in your TAGS section after you have entered long questions, use the method I describe above to fatten up your keyword bait. It will cost you only time.
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  • Profile picture of the author millionblog
    Hi,

    I would like to find out if your strategy still work as of today. How much are you earning from each website now and how many websites do you have now? Thanks for sharing such useful information to fellow marketers.
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    • Profile picture of the author domainarama
      Were you addressing your question to me? If so, my answer is I am earning as much now as I ever was, which is about $2M per website. I have 3000 websites, so you do the math. Please do me a favor. Don't tell the IRS I make that much money.

      Now let me ask you a question. Your marketing website hasn't been revised since 2009. How much are you earning from it and from all your other websites? I'm sure you'll honestly report your income to strangers on a public discussion board, just as you asked me to report my income.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ehanson
        Very nice and informative thread nest28!

        Though, this might have been asked but do you live in a western country? The reason I'm wondering is because there's a difference between costs of living in different nations.

        Also, how long does it take till you see each site bringing in traffic? My experience with traffic building is it trickles in and builds up more steadily over time; though I need to become hone my traffic building skills.
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        • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
          Originally Posted by Ehanson View Post

          Very nice and informative thread nest28!

          Though, this might have been asked but do you live in a western country? The reason I'm wondering is because there's a difference between costs of living in different nations.

          Also, how long does it take till you see each site bringing in traffic? My experience with traffic building is it trickles in and builds up more steadily over time; though I need to become hone my traffic building skills.
          He's practically your neighbor, but you're right. New York is pretty much another country as far as cost of living.
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  • Profile picture of the author jackrice
    wao just want to confirm again are you rally using blogger.com as your money site because last time i tried something like this my blogger blog was blocked and deleted
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by jackrice View Post

      wao just want to confirm again are you rally using blogger.com as your money site because last time i tried something like this my blogger blog was blocked and deleted
      I moved to Wordpress last yr, I never had any problems with Blogger though.
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  • Profile picture of the author shresthakks4u
    Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. Friend, could you tell me that can`t we earn money from blogspot domain using Adsense?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by shresthakks4u View Post

      Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. Friend, could you tell me that can`t we earn money from blogspot domain using Adsense?
      Yes, it's defiantly possible but I would recommend Wordpress. Some marketers have stated their blogs were deleted without warning while using Blogger. I have never experienced anything like that but I would suggest not using Blogger just to be safe.
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  • Profile picture of the author dangvang
    i have a 10mn video to share with you about adsense privacy policy
    i think it could help preventing adsense blogs to be banned

    wplegalpages dot com

    Alternative: adsense privacy policy ( free wp plugin )
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Autrey
    Any favorite WP themes you use?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by marketforus1 View Post

      Any favorite WP themes you use?
      Studiopress and WPzoom.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Autrey
    Thanks man!

    Got any examples of your sites?
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Autrey
    Do you still use content authority?
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Autrey
    You own only 2 now? Or these are the 2 you want to show.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by marketforus1 View Post

      You own only 2 now? Or these are the 2 you want to show.
      Those are just for show, and your very welcome.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Autrey
    Thanks again man.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gehan Wijesinghe
    Thanks Nest28. You have been very honest and I, who read this thread in early 2014, still finds this very interesting. Have been trying to get some Adsense going, but failed despite two or my artices on Stress have been ranked 1st in Google. I think the keywords I have ranked for are not being searched for. Anyway thanks for the insight you have given, without any reservation. I now see some new light and would try your mega site method. Thanks again and hope you would succeed more and more for your honesty.
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  • Profile picture of the author TAZ87
    I just read the entire thing, wow!
    impressive. So glad you shared this with us but I urge you to never share your sites.ever.
    people are bad man..you will loose your sites or worse your adsense account. it takes one percent of haters 99% can be grateful for the share but there will ALWAYS be 1% who will be jealous,hate etc and destroy your stuff.

    wherever there is light there is a shadow. update us soon on your progress
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